Re: [Trisquel-users] Did Microsoft invest in Dell to curb GNU/Linux adoption?
Dell isn't taking GNU/Linux anywhere. Dell is at best using GNU/Linux for publicity and/or to make baseless threats toward Microsoft to coerce better deals. They are certainly no threat to Microsoft though. Microsoft has all the major companies under its tight grip. If there was any threat Microsoft would probably pull funding or make a major investment in the company. Think something along the lines of what they did with Nokia, Netflix, or any number of other companies. Microsoft certainly knows how to keep GNU/Linux at bay. They don't even need to buy these companies. A mere investment is sufficient.
[Trisquel-users] Did Microsoft invest in Dell to curb GNU/Linux adoption?
Dell has offered Ubuntu based laptops in the past and not really advertised them much and recently they came out with new XPS models that run the latest Ubuntu. I don't know how well they are selling, but it was good to some that a big vendor supported GNU/Linux in some way. I then read about Microsoft investing $2 billion into Dell to help them privatize and there are rumors going around that part of the initiative was to stop Dell from carrying Ubuntu laptops and also stop dell from offering hardware support for GNU/Linux as a whole. I don't know if Dell offers Ubuntu as well on server setups, but any server admin knows how to setup a distribution without help from a company like Dell. Here is my source: http://blogs.computerworld.com/windows/21745/did-fear-linux-spark-microsofts-investment-dell "...influence hardware designs in a post-PC world while protecting itself from the growing influence of Linux-based operating systems in mobile devices and servers...It may also be an attempt to secure the partnership and to stop the PC maker from looking toward alternative operating systems like Linux."
Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman
Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman
Church Of Emacs?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Richard Stallman
One more.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 13-02-09 01:48 PM, davidvarg...@mac.com a écrit : > Dammit, I just order a card for myself, I wish I could bought him one...I got > no more money to spare, until the end of the month. > I have an idea: > I will try to persuade him to purchase a new WiFi card with the idea that we will share the cost of purchase. Instead, wait to get your card. Test yours in his system (be careful when disassembling/reassembling :). If it works, it msakes your point, including zero risk for him to order another one. F. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEW9SEACgkQfUcTXFrypNW8rACZAVioFzfdndfDq44iZNodaM6N bz0AoKrNp/xVj/5nxP0GjHSVIsXJGChS =ISJ6 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Trisquel-users] Dependency Error Gtk-Gnutella
I guess you could go upstream for a fishing expedition. http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all&keywords=libfontconfig1 This specific package has no obvious licensing problems. Generally speaking packages marked 'restricted' and 'multiverse' are proprietary. More info at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu Dunno if installing a newer package breaks your system. If it does, you get to keep both pieces!
Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 6
He is sticking to the current path because either way you go there will be upset users. Which I think is a fair answer. I think at some future date there is going to be a better answer. However for the time being it is what it is.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.
The problem with randomly installing GNU/Linux is the hardware in general isn't well supported. It'll work today although not tomorrow. There really isn't a problem with Ubuntu on hardware which is better supported from an ease of use perspective. Getting people to move away from a non-free OS to a mostly free OS /w non-free pieces can also create its own problems. By attracting such users who are willing to accept non-free pieces you introduce disincentive to those supporting free software. If Ubuntu has 90% of the GNU/Linux market it is harder to make the argument that free software is a necessity for companies to support GNU/Linux.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.
JXself Exactly, If I'm successful I believe I graduated from Step one. So, in your own interpretation, what is Step 2? Be my Polaris star on this one, just guide me. Hey, I could pin point with accuracy the Polaris star at night, If you need help. During my Army days, One of the advance land navigation techniques, was only to use and manufacture a field improvise sextant, without a magnetic compass or map in a triple canopy swamp jungle in Panama for three weeks of living hell. My team was able to locate all 30 markers, in 12 hours. In an area of 60 miles. Infested with exotic animals that were hungrier than you and deadlier, Our only motivation to survive was: 1- The desire and dream that all of us would survived collectively, 2- Be at the bar on Friday Night drinking piña colada with our love ones and friends. 3- Not to include the "next day Off, much need it "rest" 4- We were the first team to established a mew installation training record and standard.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.
Onpong Excellent suggestions. You just gave me more ammunition to reinforce my comments.Are you sure you are a Lawyer? lol Thank You
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.
Christ If I'm successful in persuading him, once I purchase what ever adapter we choose. Don't forget to toss a mouse pad in the package just for "libre" purposes. LOL
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.
Ronbravo and MAGIC FAB Thanks for your suggestion, all are valid. I'm going to stick to my game plan on persuade him to purchase and sharing the cost for a card or an adapter, that will ease the pain. I think he is getting a sweet deal from me, sort of speak. While typing, on my previous post. This plan an idea came from reading everyone's view. I just want to keep him around Trisquel GNU/LINUX and the concept of "Libre" software. In the future, As he becomes Linux savvy, If he chooses to "drift" to other Linuxes That would be his decision, not mines. I could said: I did my best from the start. I will go the extra mile, to keep him around, not taking any short cuts yet. When I was introduced to Linux. no one help me, I learn by reading and experimenting with other distributions. I discover GNU/LINUX specially Trisquel by accident. I'm not a developer or a software writer, but a person, who had problems of a particular proprietary software that I paid for, suddenly stop working. Specially when the old laptop was still working.
[Trisquel-users] Dependency Error Gtk-Gnutella
I am currently using Trisquel 6.0 x86 with Gnome and I installed Gtk-Gnutella from the package manager. The version available in the package manager is out of date and out of date versions of Gtk-Gnutella are unusable, so I downloaded the newest version from the Gtk-Gnutella website and tried to install it but got this error message: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libfontconfig1 (>= 2.9.0) How can I update the dependencies? Are dependencies not to be messed with? The version of Gtk-Gnutella currently in the package manager is: Gtk-Gnutella 0.98.2 stable Newest version currently: Gtk-Gnutella 0.98.4
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.
I've heard others advocate a similar strategy involving a multi-step strategy of moving people to free software. The problem I find with this is that everyone then spends all of their time on step one (being more free than they were in step zero) and no one moves on to step two (fully free.) We need more people to work on step two -- There are already plenty working on step one.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Abrowser and not IceCat?
> So compiling a modified version is trivial without branding. Indeed, but to quote Brett: "Unfortunately, such a restriction in a trademark license does make the software nonfree. As we've said in the past, a requirement that you rename the software when you modify it is fine -- but a requirement that you rename it before you distribute it commercially goes too far." So what you have is a situation where people can't make full use of freedom #2 to redistribute *exact copies of the original*, either gratis or for charging a fee, to anyone anywhere.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.
Not wanting to spend money because the computer is old. Sounds like my mom. If you're feeling charitable, you could offer to buy something for him, but that might not be something you can do. Try mentioning this: if a new component is bought, it can be used on future laptops and other computers in addition to his current laptop, so it isn't a waste. That can be said about a lot of components, actually, and it's kind of odd that people don't seem to notice this. Perhaps to make this argument work (since some laptops are difficult to open up), a USB adapter would make more sense, but that depends on how easy it is to put a new wireless card into your friend's laptop.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.
I second this. Including nonfree drivers and firmware does not result in the least amount of problems; it results in the most amount of problems being hidden. Eventually the nonfree software will fail, and when it does, the person you introduced GNU/Linux to will be frustrated and assume it's a problem with the OS, and that Windows is just better, which isn't true. On the other hand, if you use a distro like Trisquel, that problem shows itself immediately. This allows you to be up-front with it; rather than your friend thinking everything is good and getting frustrated later, he/she will know about the problem *now*, and he/she will have the option to use the crappy temporary fix, but with the knowledge that it is not a solution and that he/she should buy new, better hardware ASAP. Or preferably, he/she will just buy new hardware in the first place. It might be tempting to try to sugar-coat the situation, because it does help in the short term, but in the long term, the frustration of things no longer working will only drive people away.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.
Sorry guys, been working extra long hours on the field. Here is the latest news, as of today. After explaining, the lack of full cooperation, That certain companies consider those drivers and firmware to be theirs, and sometimes there is no support TO THE GNU/linux COMMUNITY: hes reply was: "DO WHAT IS BEST FOR ME". My friend told me, since his laptop is old , he wishes not to spend any money. Honestly, I sence, he is getting a bit hesitant about it. I got to finish the project, no deadline yet, but the body gestures and eyes, do speak a million words. Dammit, I just order a card for myself, I wish I could bought him one...I got no more money to spare, until the end of the month. I have an idea: I will try to persuade him to purchase a new WiFi card with the idea that we will share the cost of purchase. Looking. at the worst case scenario, If he say's NO! What other Linux distro will you recommend? - Trisquel Live CD testing. The live CD boot=s up well and it works on the nick card, but the WiFi is totally screw. It registers the WiFi mac address, but the functionality is zero to nothing. - Gustavo Gracias for the hints, I was lost for a moment in finding the replacement free software. == Christ "I wish you could send me my WiFi PCI card, that I order" ASAP so I could show him! Just kidding Christ. === Everyone's suggestions are great, remember, it is my friends property, and he has the final word. Respectfully
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 13-02-09 12:37 PM, r...@ronbravo.com a écrit : > Most here may not agree with my response but I would suggest, for someone who > is new to the GNU Linux environment, to get them a distro that will give them the least problems when it comes to compatibility with hardware. I did this with my friends and family as I gave them Ubuntu distributions first so that they could get used to using a different OS period. As time has gone on I have slowly weaned them off of Ubuntu to Trisquel. I don't agree with this. I was a huge Ubuntu advocate until recently. I stopped doing what you suggest as it would backfire to me frequently, and people would ask many questions about Canonical's recent decisions. It didn't matter if I agreed or not, this introduced a far more negative impression, and implied I should explain the rationale (and incoherence) of such decisions. I have now switched to using primarily Trisquel (version 6) and Debian. It makes more sense to make a bit more effort to have properly supported hardware, contribute to Gnome, get friendly help here (including not being blasted when I make a choice based on my ethics), etc. F. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEWjmEACgkQfUcTXFrypNUfpwCfeXB44XeTnkQ+hcJeK6UaucWa azwAn3IdEpT0usLPUKKoRmWoFgrv3cZx =qr9+ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 13-02-08 10:24 PM, ch...@thinkpenguin.com a écrit : > Besides the USB G adapter option there is also a mini pci card option most > likely. You can replace the card inside the laptop. It looks like it should be an easy thing to do. There appears to be one screw holding on a cover on the bottom of this laptop which contains the mini pci card. I don't believe acer has digital restrictions on any of its laptops in regards to the mini pci slot. > > That said it appears either of the following two cards we sell should be compatible: I'd highly recommend the above, make sure they would fit in that laptop by double-checking the maintenance manual (normally available online on the website). The links for the hardware Chris mentioned are: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-g-mini-pci https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-mini-pci F. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlEWjNYACgkQfUcTXFrypNVU0ACglBu07Z3qYlhhsoBLJen4Q+Yy +JkAn0A3ZzKcKFpct+jOsFH1wqWnSphl =WoyO -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 6
Those issues would be solved if he moved from a LTS to LTS release so 6 will be 12.04 and 7 will be 14.04. At the pace right now, the Trisquel releases will always be 4-6 months behind the Ubuntu release. But this is Ruben's distribution and his rules and we are just users waiting for whatever he puts out there. Are we consumers? Are we the product? If not, how much pull does the "community" really have in the development of Trisquel?
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.
Most here may not agree with my response but I would suggest, for someone who is new to the GNU Linux environment, to get them a distro that will give them the least problems when it comes to compatibility with hardware. I did this with my friends and family as I gave them Ubuntu distributions first so that they could get used to using a different OS period. As time has gone on I have slowly weaned them off of Ubuntu to Trisquel. The Ubuntu community and resources is huge, and I wanted them to have a positive experience as they transition from Windows to GNU Linux. I am not always available for support so this would allow them to get answers to problems on their own. While WiFi may be the only problem currently, there is the potential your friend could have existing or new hard he may try to use with his laptop that might be incompatible later. This can be a headache for new users who are not as patient as myself or many of the users here. As your friend begins to get comfortable with the new OS environment, you can also educate him on the software ideals of Free Software. Which is the most important part. Education of what Free Software is. If the overall experience is positive, then he may be more willing to move to a completely free system like Trisquel. You DO NOT have to cut your friend off of non-free software cold turkey. Help him to make a graceful and smoother transition into a more ethical software environment. While my solution is not ideal, I use it as a compromise. As I watch the Trisquel project mature and gain support through the donation and hardware support through thinkpenguin, I feel it is close to getting to the point where I can have friends and family make the transition cold turkey. For now I chose to compromise in favour of delivering an overall positive experience for their first time using GNU Linux.
Re: [Trisquel-users] TrueCrypt
Have you considered using Tomb? http://tomb.dyne.org/ Its CLI only, I think, but basically it is the same as TrueCrypt.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Ethical dillema about Trisquel GNU'LINUX. In need of the community response.
No links appeared, Chris. Jodiendo, I would boot the system with a Trisquel LiveCD and test the wireless; if it doesn't work, which is most probable, then I would teach my (your) friend about what many companies do in order to have control of the market: restrict the consumer/user's freedom of movement so he depends only on some entity (company) to get support for the product. Sometimes he is even forced to buy new "restricted" equipments to use some proprietary/restrictive software he got from people/companies who has agreements with the producers of such equipment... search for "planned obsolescence". If my (your) friend really wanted that wi-fi card working, discarding the hypothesis of buying friendly hardware which doesn't restrict his decisions, then I would show him some GNU/Linux distribution which includes proprietary/restrictive software -- after all, it's better to be restricted only in what regards to wireless, BIOS and CPU microcode than to be restricted in that and in everything else. I would do that keeping very clear that, simultaneously, he is acquiring freedom in many ways but not in other ways; and, if you do not have freedom in 100% of your machine, then you are not free with it: there is no human percentage of freedom, you keep being restricted, bounded to third parties' decisions. Also, let's remember that, if he needs specialized applications like AutoCAD, he may not be able to use it in GNU/Linux; perhaps in Wine ( http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=86 ), but this is not guaranteed. Also, I bet there is unfortunately no comparable CAD application for GNU/Linux. If in last instance he can't use GNU/Linux only, you could manage to dual boot it with Windows so he could use the one of his preference, or even virtualize Windows within Trisquel or other distro, using e.g. VirtualBox, available in Trisquel repositories. If that would not happen, take a look at this list of Free Software programs for Windows and, with his consentment, begin replacing the current installed stuff for it: https://www.gnu.org/software/for-windows.html (there is many compilations of Free Software for Windows; search for "OpenDisc", "Qumble", "Valo-CD").
Re: [Trisquel-users] trisquel 6
It's only possible to upgrade an installation of a STS (short-term support) version of Ubuntu (therefore Trisquel also) to the very next version, be it STS or LTS (long-term support). (LTS installations can be upgraded either to the very next STS version or to the next LTS, launched every 2 years.)
Re: [Trisquel-users] I will be using Trisquel 6 with Cinnamon
System resources wise, I still get better performance with MATE, but MATE is a fork of Gnome 2 and I am technically using older versions of Gnome applications that are name differently. For example, Eye of Mate instead of Eye of Gnome and Caja instead of Nautilus. With Cinnamon, I am using the same Gnome 3 and GTK 3 apps from the Ubuntu repos that Ubuntu uses with some exceptions like the the Nemo file manager. Nemo is a fork of Nautilus that maintains the same features of version 3.2 before the Gnome team bastardized it in 3.4. They throw in some new features not in Nautilus and I personally prefer Nemo now. Now the question is how hard it would be to bring over the Trisquel theme for Cinnamon.
Re: [Trisquel-users] Why Abrowser and not IceCat?
El 08/02/13 11:24, Jason Self escribió: > "This is an appropriate use of the trademark" > > Actually, Mozilla's trademark policy goes too far: > http://jxself.org/mozilla_trademark.shtml http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html [...] "In addition, if you compile a modified version, as discussed above, *with branding enabled* (the default in our source code is branding disabled), you will require Mozilla's prior written permission." * emphasis is mine So compiling a modified version is trivial without branding. -- Saludos libres, Quiliro Ordóñez Presidente (en conjunto con el resto de socios) Asociación de Software Libre del Ecuador - ASLE Av de la Prensa N58-219 y Cristóbal Vaca de Castro Quito, Ecuador (593)2-600 8579 IRC: http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=asle&uio=OT10cnVlJjEwPXRydWU3a Todo correo que reciba será tratado como información pública, de libre copia y modificación, sin importar cualquier nota de confidencialidad.
Re: [Trisquel-users] I will be using Trisquel 6 with Cinnamon
I installed JUST the Cinnamon desktop and as far as I can tell that doesn't install any extra programs, for instance the default browser is still abrowser and there are no programs available other than the standard Trisquel 6 ones in the menu.
