Re: [TruthTalk] Sabbath Day Changed?
In a message dated 11/17/2002 9:41:27 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, Laura, which of the four views mentioned do you hold? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 8:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sabbath Day Changed? What Is the Christian Sabbath? Here is an interesting link I choose to hold Sunday as my Sabbath. Laura
RE: [TruthTalk] Sabbath Day Changed?
So, Laura, which of the four views mentioned do you hold? Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 8:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sabbath Day Changed? What Is the Christian Sabbath? Here is an interesting link
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The question of the Sabbath is a question no one is asking. It's spending time answering a question that people are not asking. The world is going to hell and the youth are drug infected. I was at a church today that had over 10 teenagers saved. No one cares about this Sabbath stuff. People are more educated today. It's not possible to pull this stuff over their eyes. Michael had as good an explanation as I ever heard. I cannot remember a time when the Catholics didn't have a Saturday evening mass. Many churches today are having to go to a Saturday evening service in addition to 2 or 3 on Sunday in order to get people into their buildings. They are not wanting to spend millions on bigger buildings.
Re: [TruthTalk] Sabbath Day Changed?
What Is the Christian Sabbath? Here is an interesting link
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Just about the whole world is on the decimal system. Marlin, I believe the French Revolutionists tried to outlaw religion and set up a 10 day week: they were a dismal failure at both. Izzy I have never heard of a culture that claims, for instance that we should go on the decimal system and have a ten day week. The seven day cycle is unrelated to anything astronomically in the heavens as far as counting months or years or ages with the constellations. God made the week. It is unique. It is for man.
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Marlin, I believe the French Revolutionists tried to outlaw religion and set up a 10 day week: they were a dismal failure at both. Izzy I have never heard of a culture that claims, for instance that we should go on the decimal system and have a ten day week. The seven day cycle is unrelated to anything astronomically in the heavens as far as counting months or years or ages with the constellations. God made the week. It is unique. It is for man. --Marlin -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Sabbath Day Changed?
"So I still don't know when and how the Roman Catholics changed the Sabbath to Sunday. Is it possible that they never did?" Of course they never did. It has never been changed. It has always been the seventh day. Note, that universally, throughout the world, the seven day week exists. I have never heard of a culture that claims, for instance that we should go on the decimal system and have a ten day week. The seven day cycle is unrelated to anything astronomically in the heavens as far as counting months or years or ages with the constellations. God made the week. It is unique. It is for man. --Marlin P. S. Who is this talking about? DNL 7:25And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Marlin wrote: > Others have already done the leg work. Try these: > http://www.tagnet.org/anotherviewpoint/Daniel/22ex.htm > http://www.biblesabbath.org/confessions.html > http://members.aol.com/KHoeck2/notes.html > http://www.therickabys.com/sda/sabbatharticle.html If only I had more time, Marlin. :-) These links do not help a whole lot except to take more of my time in trying to find the answer. For example, one of the links said that it was changed at the council of Laodicea. So I look at the canons from the council of Laodicea, and following is what I find: CANON XVI. The Gospels are to be read on the Sabbath [i.e. Saturday], with the other Scriptures. Note: Among the Greeks the Sabbath was kept exactly as the Lord's day except so far as the cessation of work was concerned, wherefore the Council wishes that, as on Sundays, after the other lessons there should follow the Gospel. CANON XXIX. CHRISTIANS must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be anathema from Christ. This council happened in 364 A.D. So at this time, Christians assembled on both Saturday and Sunday. Furthermore, they were instructed not to observe Saturday as a day of rest. Nevertheless, the Sabbath is still regarded as Saturday and the Lord's day is Sunday. So I still don't know when and how the Roman Catholics changed the Sabbath to Sunday. Is it possible that they never did? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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David, I found this thru the Profusion search engine (under Council of Laodicea): http://reluctant-messenger.com/council-of-laodicea.htm Izzy What you don't seem to appreciate here is that meeting on Sunday and changing the Sabbath to Sunday are two completely different things. If the Roman Catholics claim that they changed the Sabbath to Sunday, I want to know when and how they did that. It seems to me that this is an assumption made that has not been substantiated. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Marlin, I am still waiting for you to answer my questions. Am I wrong for rejecting the Old Testament teaching on the Sabbath? If I don't get a straight answer here I will assume you are a coward. Does the 7th Day Adventist still claim to be the one and only true church here on earth? If I don't get a straight answer here I will assume you are not sincere.
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"...If the Roman Catholics claim that they changed the Sabbath to Sunday, I want to know when and how they did that" Dear David, Others have already done the leg work. Try these: http://www.tagnet.org/anotherviewpoint/Daniel/22ex.htm http://www.biblesabbath.org/confessions.html http://members.aol.com/KHoeck2/notes.html http://www.therickabys.com/sda/sabbatharticle.html --Marlin - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Sabbath Day Changed? > Glenn wrote: > > It doesn't matter what Catholics claim. We > > find in the Bible 200 years before there was > > a single Catholic that the Christians met on > > the first day of the week. Acts 20:7. > > You don't have to go to Acts 20:7 to find Christians meeting on Sunday. > Just look at Acts 2:46 to find that early Jewish believers, before they were > ever called Christians, met together on Sunday. > > What you don't seem to appreciate here is that meeting on Sunday and > changing the Sabbath to Sunday are two completely different things. If the > Roman Catholics claim that they changed the Sabbath to Sunday, I want to > know when and how they did that. It seems to me that this is an assumption > made that has not been substantiated. > > Peace be with you. > David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA > > -- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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This one is cached on a google search and I don't know how long it will remain so here it is: http://216.239.33.100/search?q=cache:Dr_pat3AK8IC:www.cpats.org/CPATSAnswerD irectory/Answers_to_Questions/DoCatholicsFailToObserveTheSabbath.html+cathol ics+changed+sabbath&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 From: "David Miller" " If the Roman Catholics claim that they changed the Sabbath to Sunday, I want to know when and how they did that" Christopher Clinesmith wrote: Dear CPATS, I'm not quite sure of what I am getting myself into at this time, but I hope that you can help me out. I am 20 years old, and a devout Catholic with a deep knowledge of the Catholic faith (at least in comparison to many Catholics my age). I am currently attending a private (non-Catholic) college in Northern Iowa, and I have many non-Catholic acquaintances. I have one friend in particular who has brought several arguments against the Catholic faith. This young lady is a freshman and she is a Seventh Day Adventist. Her biggest argument against Catholicism (and other Christian Churches) is that we fail to observe the required Sabbath observance of rest and worship. I have found numerous reasons why we observe Sunday in place of the Sabbath, but I am unable to convince her because she says there is no Biblical proof that the day of worship was changed to Sunday. I'm wondering what your thoughts are on this subject and whether you have any information that I can use to find a definite answer to my friends charges against my faith. Please let me know. Sincerely, Chris Answer: [Do Catholics fail to observe the required Sabbath observance ?] Dear Chris, Seventh Day Adventists are not only a Protestant sect, but by conventional Protestant standards it is cult like or at the very least aberrational. The problem here is that your friend does not understand the authority of the Church to change the day of worship or any other discipline for that matter. Such authority is found Acts 15. There we see the authority given the Church by Jesus in Matthew chapters 16 and 18. In these chapters Jesus gives first to Peter then to his Apostles the authority to bind and to loose. This is a Rabbinic expression which means the authority to forgive sin, discern doctrine and set discipline. In Acts 15 the apostles dogmatically declare that gentiles need not become Jews first to enter the Church. Then they add a pastoral discipline forbidding certain meats. Later Paul lifts this restriction, but the point here is that the Church has authority to set things like this. That would include days of worship. Your friend insists on biblical proof. Well where is her biblical proof that biblical proof is required ?? The Bible doesn't teach that it is the final authority ! It say it is useful, and inspired but it does not claim sole authority. Further where is your friends biblical proof of what books should be in the bible ? The bible does not have an inspired table of contents. No, in fact the Church using Her Christ-given biblical authority to "bind and to loose" told us which books belong and which books don't. So by definition, this idea of the Bible being the sole source of authority is itself refuting and unbiblical !! For more information on the SDA's and this specific issue, visit: http://www.catholic.com They have a set of tracts on-line that deals with SDA's and Sunday worship. God Bless, John C. DiMascio Bob Kirby wrote: Chris, Thanks for the question. Your argument with your friend relates ultimately to authority. You both agree that the Bible is authoritative, but you both have made an underlying assumption in that assertion. The only reason you have a Bible to argue from is the fact that the Catholic Church gave us the Bible. Ask your friend how she determines what is the authentic word of God, and where she got the criteria for making such a determination. Where did her source acquire authority? If you become familiar with the arguments related to the canon of scripture, you will be able to show her the folly of trying to come up with an authoritative Bible apart from the Catholic Church. She will likely not admit that tradition can be and is authoritative, but that is where your point must go. This is what you must understand. Ask her where the Bible teaches monogamy. It does not. Every instance she will cite can be interpreted differently. We rely on oral tradition and the magisterium of the Church for many teaching that aren't completely obvious from Scripture alone. Ask her how many wills Christ has, the nature of the trinity, predestination, birth control, abortion. etc. The church is a living body of Christ and hasn't been asleep for 2000 years. All the time through the power of the Holy Spirit we have been discerning the Word of God as revealed in Christ. Learn how to articulate the teaching on tradition well and you will do well. While there is far too much to give you in one letter, go read the first few verses of Mt 23 and see what you
Re: [TruthTalk] Sabbath Day Changed?
In a message dated 11/17/2002 3:11:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Glenn wrote: > It doesn't matter what Catholics claim. We > find in the Bible 200 years before there was > a single Catholic that the Christians met on > the first day of the week. Acts 20:7. You don't have to go to Acts 20:7 to find Christians meeting on Sunday. Just look at Acts 2:46 to find that early Jewish believers, before they were ever called Christians, met together on Sunday. What you don't seem to appreciate here is that meeting on Sunday and changing the Sabbath to Sunday are two completely different things. How so? The Old Testament followers of God did not meet on Sunday to have the Lord's Supper. I don't see any difference to appreciate. I don't see what you think I don't see. :-) Josephus said the Christians met on Sunday. If the Roman Catholics claim that they changed the Sabbath to Sunday, I want to know when and how they did that. It seems to me that this is an assumption made that has not been substantiated. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA
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Glenn wrote: > It doesn't matter what Catholics claim. We > find in the Bible 200 years before there was > a single Catholic that the Christians met on > the first day of the week. Acts 20:7. You don't have to go to Acts 20:7 to find Christians meeting on Sunday. Just look at Acts 2:46 to find that early Jewish believers, before they were ever called Christians, met together on Sunday. What you don't seem to appreciate here is that meeting on Sunday and changing the Sabbath to Sunday are two completely different things. If the Roman Catholics claim that they changed the Sabbath to Sunday, I want to know when and how they did that. It seems to me that this is an assumption made that has not been substantiated. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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It doesn't matter what Catholics claim. We find in the Bible 200 years before there was a single Catholic that the Christians met on the first day of the week. Acts 20:7. Does anyone know whether or not the Roman Catholic Church really did change the sabbath day from Saturday to Sunday? Is there some official declaration or canon which does this? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA
Re: [TruthTalk] Only 9 of the 10 commandments?
David, I am really enjoying your questions, they are constructive. This is how we all learn. My time is so limited now, and I cannot devote as much time as I'd like to with you and Izzy who have written good questions to discuss. Briefly, yes! I do recognize a progressive flow of covenants. Isn't it beautiful. Quickly, the Sabbath pre-dates Moses, and goes back to the creation of man. It was made for man. Man was not made for it, as Jesus said. There is validation for its observance all the way into the epistles, and in early church writings. When we get to the supposed conversion of Constantine as the first pope, we begin to find the followers of Jesus murdered for Sabbath observance. Sun worship permeated the Roman culture. Sun-day worship was decreed on pains of death. This is not a good reason to throw out the commandment. I do plan to get into your good questions. Thanks, --Marlin -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
[TruthTalk] Sabbath Day Changed?
Does anyone know whether or not the Roman Catholic Church really did change the sabbath day from Saturday to Sunday? Is there some official declaration or canon which does this? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Hi Marlin. I'm not sure why you are quoting the entire credits. Are you simply expressing agreement with what I wrote before? Are you trying to open up some more dialogue or make a point? I want to make a few comments about my perspective on the following comment: > The challenge issued by Rome over 100 years ago remains: > Either the Catholic Church is right, or the Seventh Day > Adventists are right. There can be no other choice. And > if one choose neither, then the whole doctrine of Sola > Scriptura collapses, and with it, the pillar upon which all > of Protestantism stands. First, the pillar of Protestantism is not Sola Scriptura. This is the pillar of only some of the reformers. Furthermore, how they used this pillar is not exactly how some represent them. I personally do not believe in Sola Scriptura. The Scriptures tell us that God speaks by many means and not just by Scripture. For example, the Holy Spirit which we receive within us is one way in which God speaks. Also, the Bible says that the church is the pillar and ground of truth, and if we read 1 Corinthians 12, we find that it is through the varied members of the body of Christ that Jesus speaks to the rest of the members. The Scriptures also teach that the letter of the law kills but the Spirit gives life. In any case, I do believe with the tenet that Scripture is a higher authority than either revelation or tradition. Therefore, the phrase above, "there can be no other choice" is false. Nevertheless, even if Sola Scriptura were followed, a very good case can be made that there has been a disannulling of the commandments of the Hebrew Scriptures with regard to Sabbath, Passover, etc. The Catholics and the Seventh Day Adventists are wrong on this regard. If I had time, I would present the arguments myself, but there are plenty of sources out there that have already made the arguments. Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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This is so stupid. Ignorant stupidity. I am still waiting for you to tell me the answer from your 7th Day adventists friends if they officially claim to be the one and only true church I don't buy this I don't know stuff. I also don't buy your refusal to answer my and Laura's question. Are are wrong for rejecting the Old Testament teaching on the Sabbath and follow the New Testament teaching on the Sabbath instead??? The challenge issued by Rome over 100 years ago remains: Either the Catholic Church is right, or the Seventh Day Adventists are right. There can be no other choice. And if one choose neither, then the whole doctrine of Sola Scriptura collapses, and with it, the pillar upon which all of Protestantism stands.
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Marlin wrote: > This is the dividing line. Following the opinions of men > where it is contrary to God makes men into gods and > violates the first comandment. Hi Marlin. Do you have any recognition of different covenants, or do you consider all of God's dealings with man as one covenant? It seems to me like you are saying that if God spoke something to Israel four thousand years ago, that this becomes his will and mind for all of mankind throughout all eternity. What do you think of the following passage of Scripture: "Do therefore this that we say to thee: We have four men which have a vow on them; Them take, and purify thyself with them, and be at charges with them, that they may shave their heads: and all may know that those things, whereof they were informed concerning thee, are nothing; but that thou thyself also walkest orderly, and keepest the law. As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication." (Act 21:23-25) Please answer the following questions: 1. Do you interpret this passage as saying that the Gentiles should not observe the law as Paul did? 2. Do you get any hint of a different covenant relationship with God between Gentiles and Jews? 3. Don't you think that Sabbath observance is part of that which James did not expect the Gentiles which believe to observe? If not, why didn't he add sabbath observance to the list of observances required by believing Gentiles? Peace be with you. David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
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Trickery, trickery, trickery. You VIOLATED THE USE of the Scriptures you gave. You just ignore what is said and come back with questions or some questionable link. Question - Why don't you come to VA and stone me to death since you believe in following the Old Testament Sabbath? WHY don't you answer my and Laura's question? I reject the Old Testament teaching on the Sabbath and do not observe it as a Saturday day of worship. Am I wrong? Get some guts and same so and quit beating around the bush. "Not if I was sure it was God and not some man's opinion." --Laura Absolutely! This is the dividing line. Following the opinions of men where it is contrary to God makes men into gods and violates the first comandment. EXO 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. You have answered your own question. I provided validation with the scripture above. --Marlin
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A Note From the Editors of Mary OnLine+ Credit for this article's appearance here must go, in a case of delicious irony, to the Bible Light Home Page and to Michael Scheifler, a Seventh Day Adventist, who, in an act of Christian "charity", awarded The Immaculate Heart of Mary with his ominous sounding "666 Dangerous Site" designation, a reference, apparently, to the SDA's long held belief that the Catholic Church is the Whore of Babylon and the instrument of the Anti-Christ. Laughable, yes, but it is not the intent here to engage in that debate. We give Mr. Scheifler credit simply because he did all the work on getting it typed in and on the 'net in the first place, and graciously gave us permission to use his work. The SDA now actually publishes this article in booklet form, to use in it's propaganda to lull people from the True Faith. Unaware that using an article, published by a Catholic Cardinal, in a Catholic newspaper, to convert people to their sect, is a bit like using an advertisement for Coke to get people to buy Pepsi, the article nevertheless makes a valid point. The challenge issued by Rome over 100 years ago remains: Either the Catholic Church is right, or the Seventh Day Adventists are right. There can be no other choice. And if one choose neither, then the whole doctrine of Sola Scriptura collapses, and with it, the pillar upon which all of Protestantism stands. - Original Message - From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Only 9 of the 10 commandments? > Marlin wrote: > > This link appears to be a reprint of the article on > > a Catholic web-site. > > http://www.immaculateheart.com/MaryOnLine/html/apologetics.html > > Right, but at this site, the credit is given to a Seventh-Day Adventist. > -- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
Re: [TruthTalk] Only 9 of the 10 commandments?
"Not if I was sure it was God and not some man's opinion." --Laura Absolutely! This is the dividing line. Following the opinions of men where it is contrary to God makes men into gods and violates the first comandment. EXO 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. You have answered your own question. I provided validation with the scripture above. --Marlin - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Only 9 of the 10 commandments? In a message dated 11/16/2002 9:47:54 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dear Laura,Forget about me. I am nothing. Would it bother you if God has a problem with it?Not if I was sure it was God and not some man's opinion. But you have not answered my question. Laura
