[U2] Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip)

2007-09-07 Thread Clifton Oliver
Good point, though we recently had an example where a feature someone  
on the list knew about is not in any of the docs, at least that  
anyone has said they found. I know I did a full text search on the  
10.2 PDFs and didn't find it. (ODBC.LOGIN paragraph was the item.)


Does anyone open a case on documentation errors and omissions?


As to archive indexes, I've found the archive at Nabble to be fairly  
good, although there are things I know are there that it misses. Try


http://www.nabble.com/U2---Users-f801.html

Hope that helps.


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[U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

2007-09-07 Thread cstevenson
I did not know about access to u2-userss via Nabble until Clif's post.
So I just registered.
Supposedly it's more than history.  This is a test post via Nabble's reply
page.
I'll click [Post Message] and see what happens . . .



As to archive indexes, I've found the archive at Nabble to be fairly  
good, although there are things I know are there that it misses. Try

http://www.nabble.com/U2---Users-f801.html

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[U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

2007-09-07 Thread cstevenson
I did not know about access to u2-userss via Nabble until Clif's post.
So I just registered.
Supposedly it's more than history.  This is a test post via Nabble's reply
page.
I'll click [Post Message] and see what happens . . .



As to archive indexes, I've found the archive at Nabble to be fairly  
good, although there are things I know are there that it misses. Try

http://www.nabble.com/U2---Users-f801.html

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RE: [U2] XDOMRemove() query

2007-09-07 Thread Adam Eccleshall
Hi,

Sorry, the output The attribute by name '.' didn't exist. was the
result from XMLGetError().  I've tried with ., /, @ and node()
as the attribute being passed in, and XMLGetError() returns that
whichever I'm trying didn't exist.  I tried with  as the attribute,
and it crashed with an illegal use message.

Does anybody know of any IBM example code for this function?


Thank you,


Adam Eccleshall

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 What is the txt from the XMLGetError function?
 
 This may point you towards your issue.
 
   
  
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 Hi,
 
 A colleague and I are having some difficulty getting 
 XDOMRemove() to work (UD 7.1, Windows).  Using the syntax
 
 ERR = XDOMRemove(HANDLE, XPATH, NSSTRING, ATTR, VAL)
 
 Where
 
 XPATH = /DEPStaff/body/staff[1]
 NSSTRING = xmlns=HI
 ATTR = '.'
 and HANDLE is a pointer to an open XML file that looks like this...
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=windows-1252 ? DEPStaff header
  ...
 /header
 body
  staff
  userid136/userid
  ...
  /staff
  staff
  userid204/userid
  ...
  /staff
 
 /body
 /DEPStaff
 
 
 How would I use XDOMRemove() to remove an entire staff 
 node?  I've tried using the XPath mentioned above with ATTR 
 set to @, ., / and node(), but XDOMRemove() returns 
 with e.g. The attribute by name '.'
 didn't exist.
 
 If I try with ATTR = , it returns Illegal use of the file, 
 select, cursor, BCI, Socket, HTTP, XML, SCTX ,MQS, SOAP or 
 database variable.
 
 Unfortunately, the one example for XDOM I found on the 
 internet covered all the addition functions, but not removal.
 
 
 
 Any help greatly appreciated,
 
 
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Re: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

2007-09-07 Thread Charles Barouch

Chuck,
   Unless you are already registered, Nabble replies bounce. I send out 
a lot of e-mails to peopl who get caught in the bounce filter because of 
this and invite them to join. We get a lot of our newer members that way.

   - Chuck
cstevenson wrote:

I did not know about access to u2-userss via Nabble until Clif's post.
So I just registered.
Supposedly it's more than history.  This is a test post via Nabble's reply 
page.
I'll click [Post Message] and see what happens . . .

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RE: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

2007-09-07 Thread Stevenson, Charles
Ok, it got posted 2x.  Don't know why, maybe something I did.  
I sent it 9:48 PDT. 2 copies are in my email inbox at 10:08.  A 20
minute lag,  but I think that lag is on u2-users list side.

It (or I?) also deleted a line from my reply that said something like
Clifton Oliver wrote:.  That was supposed to appear above As to
archive... line.

I like the view this message in context+URL line.
Clicking on the URL shows the message in-thread.  Cool.

Nabble seems to reconstruct threads, but I'll bet it has to guess at
exactly what is a response to exactly which previous post.

History seems to go back to Spring 2005.


So how does this work?  Who set it up?  I assume Nabble is a list
subscriber and gleans from it to build its own database?  But it has to
be more than that.  It posted my email to the list as from me.  I
registered as cstevenson so that appears instead of my email address
as will appear with this current post, which I am sending as email
outside nabble. Otherwise you can't really tell it came via Nabble
except for the useful URL tacked onto the bottom.


Chuck S

P.S.  I also just got an alert from Nabble that Chuck B had responded to
my post.
Said alert rated Chuck's response with 3 Stars(!)  gave me a Nabble url
to it.



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Subject: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

I did not know about access to u2-userss via Nabble until Clif's post.
So I just registered.
Supposedly it's more than history.  This is a test post via Nabble's
reply
page.
I'll click [Post Message] and see what happens . . .



As to archive indexes, I've found the archive at Nabble to be fairly
good, although there are things I know are there that it misses. Try

http://www.nabble.com/U2---Users-f801.html

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RE: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

2007-09-07 Thread Stevenson, Charles
From: Charles Barouch
 Unless you are already registered, Nabble replies bounce. I send out a
lot
 of e-mails to peopl who get caught in the bounce filter because of
this and
 invite them to join. We get a lot of our newer members that way.

That means people know about the forum via Nabble and there is probably
a population that prefers that web-user interface over email.  This is
good.

Chuck, is this the source of some of those messages you sometimes post
on behalf of non-list-members?

Maybe we need an option to subscribe, but not receive either digest or
individual posts,  but that would allow people to post via Nabble. 

I'm still not sure how we got in bed with Nabble, or rather, how they
crawled in bed with us.  What are they doing under the covers!  Hey, who
else are we sleeping with?  Google?  Yahoo?

Chuck S
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RE: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

2007-09-07 Thread karlp
quote who=Stevenson, Charles
 From: Charles Barouch
 Unless you are already registered, Nabble replies bounce. I send out a
 lot
 of e-mails to peopl who get caught in the bounce filter because of
 this and
 invite them to join. We get a lot of our newer members that way.

 That means people know about the forum via Nabble and there is probably
 a population that prefers that web-user interface over email.  This is
 good.

 Chuck, is this the source of some of those messages you sometimes post
 on behalf of non-list-members?

 Maybe we need an option to subscribe, but not receive either digest or
 individual posts,  but that would allow people to post via Nabble.

With Majordomo (we are still using it, aren't we?) there's a 'restrict'
post option, which doesn't get emails, but which is allowed to post. The
format in the CONFIG file is:

restrict_post =  u2-uses:u2-users-digest:restrictedlist

I don't know if that's a viable option, but on my server, I put my work
email address in the restrictedlist file so I can post to my wife's groups
in an emergency, like when my home email address is down...

Just a thought?

Karl


 I'm still not sure how we got in bed with Nabble, or rather, how they
 crawled in bed with us.  What are they doing under the covers!  Hey, who
 else are we sleeping with?  Google?  Yahoo?

 Chuck S
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RE: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

2007-09-07 Thread Larry Hiscock
You CAN, however, subscribe to the -digest list, and still post to the
regular list from Nabble.

Larry Hiscock
Moderator 


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Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 11:06 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

Chuck,
Unless you are already registered, Nabble replies bounce. I send out a
lot of e-mails to peopl who get caught in the bounce filter because of this
and invite them to join. We get a lot of our newer members that way.
- Chuck
cstevenson wrote:
 I did not know about access to u2-userss via Nabble until Clif's post.
 So I just registered.
 Supposedly it's more than history.  This is a test post via Nabble's
reply page.
 I'll click [Post Message] and see what happens . . .
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Re: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip))

2007-09-07 Thread Charles Barouch

Chuck,
  Yes. I often repost for Nabble and GMane users. I also post a lot for 
subscribed users who forget which e-mail name has subscription rights. 
Occasionally, people send to 'List Owner' instead of sending to the 
lists, so I push those as well.
  As to how we got into bed with them, since our rules don't prohibit 
what they do, they took it on themselves to re-post us. both groups post 
*a lot* of other lists in addition to ours.


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RE: [U2] Nabble (was Re: Documentation errors (was Get a

2007-09-07 Thread Larry Hiscock
Karl wrote: 

 With Majordomo (we are still using it, aren't we?) there's a 'restrict'
 post option, which doesn't get emails, but which is allowed to post. 
 The format in the CONFIG file is:

 restrict_post =  u2-uses:u2-users-digest:restrictedlist

That's what we're doing now to allow -digest list members to post to the
main list.  The only issue is setting up and maintaining yet another list of
people who want to post, but not receive emails.

Larry Hiscock
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Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-07 Thread Brian Leach
Dawn (and fellow list members)

I appreciate where you're coming from, but

1. Please remember that the U2UG are the stewards and not the owners of this 
list. The U2UG has agreed to run the lists according to the wishes of the list 
membership, but the Board has no mandate to decide on the policies of the list, 
or which lists should come and go.

2. Like most of us, I've been a member of the lists longer than the U2UG has 
been around, and I remember the situation that led to the u2-community being 
formed. There was a lot of ill-will and some ugly postings from those 
complaining about the signal to noise ratio. Today, with the very occasional 
exception, we have a well moderated and courteous list of which we can all be 
proud.

3. The REAL problem as I see it, is not the fact that topics are sent across to 
u2-community,  but the fact that they die when they get there. I would rather 
see the u2-community list being actively used, with more traffic and 
discussions taking place about what is happening in our community (and 
welcoming all kinds of topics), which is what it was designed for. 

The only problem with u2-community is that too many on THIS list don't bother 
to subscribe to it and keep any useful topics alive.

4. As for the AD in the subject line: it is a useful convenience that makes it 
easy to filter the mail by subject line. So those who don't want to see them 
can choose to filter them out. Those of us who do, can continue to read them 
without having to skip tags in the messages themselves. Which should keep 
everyone happy all round (apart from a few curmudgeonly old malcontents 
grin). But it's not enough of an issue to rewrite the rule book over.

My (rapidly decreasing in real terms) 2 pence.

Brian
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[U2] [UD] Putting an attribute in the XML root element

2007-09-07 Thread Burwell, Ed
I can easily create this with a map file:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
workorders
  workorder
id909562/id
amount141.08/amount
  /workorder
/workorders



I want to create this:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
workorders method = synchronous 
  workorder
id909562/id
amount141.08/amount
  /workorder
/workorders



My map file looks like this (some lines were cut out):

001: ?xml version=1.0?
002: U2xml-mapping xmlns
003: U2xml:mapping
004:  root=workorders
005:  record=workorder/
006:  encoding=utf-8
007: /
008: U2xml:mapping
009:  file=WORK.ORDER
010:  field=@ID
011:  map-to=id
012:  treated-as=element
013: /
020: U2xml:mapping
021:  file=WORK.ORDER
022:  field=TOT.DEBITS
023:  map-to=amount
024:  conversion=MR2
025:  treated-as=element
026: /

I don't want to write a basic program when I am this close.  Thanks.

Ed Burwell
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RE: [U2] [UD] Putting an attribute in the XML root element

2007-09-07 Thread Burwell, Ed
I just noticed, line 5 of my map file has an error.  It should be:

record=workorder

instead of:

record=workorder/

This does not fix my problem, however.

Ed

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Subject: [U2] [UD] Putting an attribute in the XML root element


I can easily create this with a map file:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
workorders
  workorder
id909562/id
amount141.08/amount
  /workorder
/workorders



I want to create this:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
workorders method = synchronous 
  workorder
id909562/id
amount141.08/amount
  /workorder
/workorders



My map file looks like this (some lines were cut out):

001: ?xml version=1.0?
002: U2xml-mapping xmlns
003: U2xml:mapping
004:  root=workorders
005:  record=workorder/
006:  encoding=utf-8
007: /
008: U2xml:mapping
009:  file=WORK.ORDER
010:  field=@ID
011:  map-to=id
012:  treated-as=element
013: /
020: U2xml:mapping
021:  file=WORK.ORDER
022:  field=TOT.DEBITS
023:  map-to=amount
024:  conversion=MR2
025:  treated-as=element
026: /

I don't want to write a basic program when I am this close.  Thanks.

Ed Burwell
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Re: [U2] RE: Get a grip - was ads - was U2 University Last

2007-09-07 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
On 9/7/07, Brian Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dawn (and fellow list members)

 I appreciate where you're coming from, but

 1. Please remember that the U2UG are the stewards and not the owners of this 
 list. The U2UG has agreed to run the lists according to the wishes of the 
 list membership, but the Board has no mandate to decide on the policies of 
 the list, or which lists should come and go.

That does not quite align with my recollections, Brian.  Clif was the
former trustee and moderator and he turned that responsibility over to
the U2UG so that the board formed a list moderation sub-committee.
So, I believe that Chuck B. works with the instructions set by the
U2UG board sub-committee, which is tasked with the responsibility for
such policies by the u2-users membership.  As a member of the u2-users
list and of U2UG, it seems that several of us would like the policies
changed, so I asked the board, whose subcommittee handles such
policies, to take this up, assuming that the board is willing to do
so.

 2. Like most of us, I've been a member of the lists longer than the U2UG has 
 been around, and I remember the situation that led to the u2-community being 
 formed. There was a lot of ill-will and some ugly postings from those 
 complaining about the signal to noise ratio. Today, with the very occasional 
 exception, we have a well moderated and courteous list of which we can all be 
 proud.

As Clif mentioned, many of those who complained have either left the
list, have better toolsets now, or have refined their skills in
quickly filtering for those postings of interest.  So, I think it
makes sense to revisit this, and I am pretty sure that is the right of
the board to do so.

 3. The REAL problem as I see it, is not the fact that topics are sent across 
 to u2-community,  but the fact that they die when they get there.

No, I am absolutely certain that is not the real problem ;-)

 I would rather see the u2-community list being actively used,

I am guessing, but not quite as certain, that this will never happen.

 with more traffic and discussions taking place about what is happening in our 
 community (and welcoming all kinds of topics), which is what it was designed 
 for.

 The only problem with u2-community is that too many on THIS list don't bother 
 to subscribe to it and keep any useful topics alive.

 4. As for the AD in the subject line: it is a useful convenience that makes 
 it easy to filter the mail by subject line. So those who don't want to see 
 them can choose to filter them out. Those of us who do, can continue to read 
 them without having to skip tags in the messages themselves. Which should 
 keep everyone happy all round (apart from a few curmudgeonly old malcontents 
 grin). But it's not enough of an issue to rewrite the rule book over.

I agree, but I saw the issue being addressed as one related to
excessive moderation, not due to Chuck's attempts to enforce the
guidelines, but due to the guidelines themselves.  I think it is time
to rewrite the rules, kill u2-community, and make u2-users the
community.  One cannot say to a non-virtual group (one where people
see each other) that is working on any issues, including very serious
ones, that they should do so without any community building at all, no
smiles, no winks, no meta-discussions, but that another group could be
formed for those who want to do community building for this group.
That is just nonsensical and not likely to work.  If I am in the
minority in this opinion, then turn it down, but I suspect that the
list would be well-served by these slight revisions to the policies.

I told Chuck B that I didn't like the feeling of a list where I might
get shut down with just about any topic of interest to me, all of
which would be related to U2.  He asked if I was afraid of him and I
said that was not the issue, but that it was a real downer, whether
the right word would be humiliating or something short of that, to
have your conversation cut off.  It makes for an unfriendly list, in
my opinion.  I'm a girl, however, and given recent research on
differences in brain activity, it is possible that is relevant.
Cheers  --dawn

 My (rapidly decreasing in real terms) 2 pence.

 Brian



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[U2] Unidata Query Optimizer Documentation

2007-09-07 Thread Kevin King
Anyone know where I can find official documentation that describes how the
query optimizer in Unidata applies (or overlooks) indexes when formulating a
selection strategy?

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Re: [U2] Re: Documentation errors (was Get a grip)

2007-09-07 Thread Ray Wurlod
I do recall once someone half-jokingly asking Glenn Herbert to supply a list of 
all the undocumented options.
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