[U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? Any pointers would be very welcome. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
I haven't tried it, but it could probably be done with the BASIC aux-on, aux-off commands if the pc's default printer was set to print2pdf or a similar product. -Dianne On 4/12/2011 9:39 AM, Doug Farmer wrote: Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? Any pointers would be very welcome. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dianne Ackerman Director, Application Development Support Aptron Corporation www.aptron.com P: 973/822-0700, ext. 105 F: 973/822-3234 dia...@aptron.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
I think Doug means actually on the U2 server sans client pc. Doug: is spooling the job as PCL and calling ghostscript out of bounds? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse I haven't tried it, but it could probably be done with the BASIC aux-on, aux-off commands if the pc's default printer was set to print2pdf or a similar product. -Dianne On 4/12/2011 9:39 AM, Doug Farmer wrote: Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? Any pointers would be very welcome. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dianne Ackerman Director, Application Development Support Aptron Corporation www.aptron.com P: 973/822-0700, ext. 105 F: 973/822-3234 dia...@aptron.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
We use a script called txt2pdf (maybe text2pdf, iirc) and it is integrated into our SB+ spool functionality. It is just another output like CSV or TXT. If you are on aix, you can setup a virtual queue that runs a script on anything printed through it. That may work as well. That is how our Optio printing is integrated. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Marc Harbeson marc.harbe...@gmail.com wrote: I think Doug means actually on the U2 server sans client pc. Doug: is spooling the job as PCL and calling ghostscript out of bounds? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse I haven't tried it, but it could probably be done with the BASIC aux-on, aux-off commands if the pc's default printer was set to print2pdf or a similar product. -Dianne On 4/12/2011 9:39 AM, Doug Farmer wrote: Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? Any pointers would be very welcome. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dianne Ackerman Director, Application Development Support Aptron Corporation www.aptron.com P: 973/822-0700, ext. 105 F: 973/822-3234 dia...@aptron.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
What platform? We use PrintWizard ( http://www.anzio.com/product/print-wizard ) and are very pleased with it. It's Windows based though. For PDF's (with emailing too btw) we LPR the jobs from the HP-UX/UniVerse server to a Windows Server for processing and sending. It can also do a bunch of other things like barcodes, forms, etc. They've also been VERY responsive when I've seen an issue or needed an enhancement. Disclosure (since this is such a big issue lately) - I have ZERO affiliation with the software except as a happy customer. Robert Robert F. Porter, MCSE, CCNA, ZCE, OCP-Java Lead Sr. Programmer / Analyst Laboratory Information Services Ochsner Health System This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful. Doug Farmer dfar...@epicor.com 4/12/2011 8:39 AM Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? Any pointers would be very welcome. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
We use txt2pdf also, via a UV subroutine, which then emails it to whomever. I believe it's a C routine (made for unix/linux) The only problem we encounter, is when the number of pages gets to around 300 or so. If your on a PC, you could always install CutePDF as a printer driver, when it receives data to be printed (made into a PDF), however, it will ask you for a filename. Possibly their non-free version may have true a pass-through form of driver. I've used the CutePDF pro version at home to manipuate PDF's, and the free version to just save trees, by printing to PDF's (haven't had any issues with the free version). George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Steve Romanow Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:57 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse We use a script called txt2pdf (maybe text2pdf, iirc) and it is integrated into our SB+ spool functionality. It is just another output like CSV or TXT. If you are on aix, you can setup a virtual queue that runs a script on anything printed through it. That may work as well. That is how our Optio printing is integrated. On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Marc Harbeson marc.harbe...@gmail.com wrote: I think Doug means actually on the U2 server sans client pc. Doug: is spooling the job as PCL and calling ghostscript out of bounds? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dianne Ackerman Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:49 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse I haven't tried it, but it could probably be done with the BASIC aux- on, aux-off commands if the pc's default printer was set to print2pdf or a similar product. -Dianne On 4/12/2011 9:39 AM, Doug Farmer wrote: Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? Any pointers would be very welcome. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Dianne Ackerman Director, Application Development Support Aptron Corporation www.aptron.com P: 973/822-0700, ext. 105 F: 973/822-3234 dia...@aptron.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
We use a product called SwiftView converter, that works in Windows and Linux. hp On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Doug Farmer dfar...@epicor.com wrote: Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? Any pointers would be very welcome. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- *hp* ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
Swiftview is nice and has a lot of features. There is also pcl2pdf from www.visual.co.uk which I know works on AIX. On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Horacio Pellegrino wrote: We use a product called SwiftView converter, that works in Windows and Linux. hp On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Doug Farmer dfar...@epicor.com wrote: Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? Any pointers would be very welcome. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- *hp* ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
We use txt2pdf (free) to convert standard HOLD entries (Universe/Windows) into PDF files, both landscape and portrait. We then use AWMAIL ($500) to attached the PDF file to an email message and send it to the user. It works automatically and beautifully. Next in line, we are setting a distribution profile which will allow the PDF file to be printed on any printer(s) with designated number of copies, emailed to any number of people, land on any file server, and publish to SharePoint 2010. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Ed Clark Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 7:45 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse Swiftview is nice and has a lot of features. There is also pcl2pdf from www.visual.co.uk which I know works on AIX. On Apr 12, 2011, at 10:27 AM, Horacio Pellegrino wrote: We use a product called SwiftView converter, that works in Windows and Linux. hp On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Doug Farmer dfar...@epicor.com wrote: Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? Any pointers would be very welcome. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- *hp* ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
We generate html output and then use html2ps and then ps2pdf However i believe Brian Leach has a full solution if you want to do pdf properly. From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Farmer Sent: 12 April 2011 14:40 To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? Any pointers would be very welcome. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1209 / Virus Database: 1500/3567 - Release Date: 04/11/11 ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
Doug, Please state your platform and flavor to help narrow down solutions. There are a million ways to produce e-documents (including PDF) and deliver them. It would help to know how your end-user is expecting to obtain the document and if there are uses for other types of documents. The delivery mechanism will work for all file types, but the conversion process should be flexible enough to support additional types with add-on convertors. The document could be an image, web page, PDF, or even an MS Office doc so don't forget that when you are considering your options. Regards, Glen Batchelor IT Director/CIO/CTO All-Spec Industries phone: (910) 332-0424 fax: (910) 763-5664 E-mail: webmas...@all-spec.com Web: http://www.all-spec.com Blog: http://blog.all-spec.com -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Farmer Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 9:40 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? Any pointers would be very welcome. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
We recommend and use PrintWizard. I like that it not only allows you to create and format documents to a PDF but also direct it to the printer, Fax or Email. It also handles the scanning of documents. Curt Stewart TRI-SYS Consulting -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Farmer Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 8:40 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? Any pointers would be very welcome. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Disclosing technology
Most tech companies consider everything inside the DC proprietary and confidential. The NDA's I've seen usually include such items. And I do believe they'd hold up... the employee signed it knowingly willingly. How is that not legitimate? So if you can't see any reason for it, why is it such common practice? So much so that Facebook just made the Wall Street Journal by announcing that it WILL release the new DC's info: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704013604576248953972500040.html?mod=dist_smartbrief Many tech companies, such as Google ( http://online.wsj.com/public/quotes/main.html?type=djnamp;symbol=goog )Inc., keep key details about their computing infrastructure confidential. But Facebook said it will publish technical specifications for a new data center it built from scratch in Prineville, Ore.—including details of the computers, power supplies, server racks, battery backup systems and building design. Security is about minimization of risk. Advertising what you run, just gave the attackers an advantage. In fact, you took a whole step away from them - determining attack vectors. Nothing like giving them a jump start... Stepping out of my U2 role into a hosting provider (disclosure: I also own a small wholesale-only hosting provider), if I got a complaint from a company that you were posting information they consider PC and a potential security issue, I'd ask you to remove it. If you didn't, I'd ask you to leave. Plain simple. It's not worth the trouble. Robert fft2...@aol.com 4/11/2011 9:28 PM I knew you were talking about me. I do not accept your claim that this decision is up to the company however. Any former employee can certainly state what technology a company used, and there is no legitimate contract which could preclude it. Would some companies wish to try to stop their past employees from talking about what technologies are used there? Possibly. I really can't see any reason for this hypothetical concept. I've certainly never even been asked, let alone required, to not discuss it. Could companies legally do so? That is, would such an effort stand up in a claim? It's quite unlikely. There is no specific inherent claim a company could make to technology created and owned by some outside source. There is nothing confidential about the nature of the technology, specific to any particular company that uses it. Publishing the name of the type of technology a company uses, is not publishing people's private and confidential information. Since when did a company become a person? Thousands of vendors publish addresses of companies without their consent. The privacy policy is specific to persons only, and is specific to certain classes of information which can not be discovered by public means. If you publish your own social security number, it's no longer private is it? Likewise if anyone else publishes it, it's no longer private either. There is no confidentiality implicit in the type of technology a company might use, and there is no higher authority to which to appeal, at Knol or elsewhere, based on the privacy policy which covers individuals solely, and only private not public information. Will -Original Message- From: Tony Gravagno 3xk547...@sneakemail.com To: u2-users u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Mon, Apr 11, 2011 5:09 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Disclosing technology Will, I'll be clear that I'm talking about you publishing the names of MV sites without their approval, and thank you for stating your position on that. Your naïve statement that you're merely publishing the names of companies is not the problem. The problem is that you are identifying these companies, as you say, as using a particular technology. While some companies freely disclose their choices of technology, others do not. This is their choice to make, not yours. I firmly believe that you do not understand the concerns that we are discussing. But that does not change the fact that people do have concerns, as obviously someone else has pointed out. I encourage you to at least acknowledge that people may be concerned about something that you don't yet understand. Regarding ISP action: You host your information on Knol pages at Google, for which their privacy policy is available here: http://knol.google.com/k/content-policy That policy, to which you agreed when you started services, states: PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION: We do not allow the unauthorized publishing of people's private and confidential information, such as credit card numbers, Social Security Numbers, driver's and other license numbers, and other personal information that is not publicly accessible. The Terms of Service are here: http://knol.google.com/k/knol-terms-of-service That page states: Violation of any of the foregoing, including the Knol Content Policy, may result in immediate termination of this Agreement, and may subject you to state and federal
Re: [U2] Disclosing technology
You're speaking about technical specifications, not the freakin database :) Apples and oranges. If Google tried to stop an ex-employee for declaring that they use PHP, they'd be laughed off the planet. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Disclosing technology
PHP isn't a database... apples and oranges. fft2...@aol.com 4/12/2011 12:18 PM You're speaking about technical specifications, not the freakin database :) Apples and oranges. If Google tried to stop an ex-employee for declaring that they use PHP, they'd be laughed off the planet. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Disclosing technology
In a message dated 4/12/2011 10:25:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ropor...@ochsner.org writes: PHP isn't a database... apples and oranges. It's the same point. The point you're skirting :) The specifications of a particular implementation, are not the same thing as just the fact of the implementation. At any rate, all the companies in my list have publicly declared. So it's all a moot point isn't it? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Disclosing technology
Not skirting anything. The 1st line of my 1st reply ... consider everything inside the DC proprietary and confidential. You ignored that line apparently and decided to focus instead on the article was about the infrastructure and then changed from db technology to programming language in your reply. The point was the same, such information is considered PC, and is WSJ level news when companies decide to do otherwise. I was simply pointing you did the exact same type of switch when you replied. 1) It is a security issue for the issues that a few of have pointed out whether you want to accept it or not. 2) NDA's are enforcable against the signer. And most company's have much larger legal budgets than ex-employees. 3) Hosts (I've more than a decade of experience in that industry) WILL remove your site if it causes them issues. You mentioned PHP... I know a large company (you've used their websites I bet but no I won't say who. I didn't sign an NDA, but respect their wishes) that changed the extension attached the php interpreter JUST so to as not advertise that fact to minimize the exposure. fft2...@aol.com 4/12/2011 12:33 PM In a message dated 4/12/2011 10:25:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ropor...@ochsner.org writes: PHP isn't a database... apples and oranges. It's the same point. The point you're skirting :) The specifications of a particular implementation, are not the same thing as just the fact of the implementation. At any rate, all the companies in my list have publicly declared. So it's all a moot point isn't it? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Disclosing technology
In a message dated 4/12/2011 10:45:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, ropor...@ochsner.org writes: Not skirting anything. The 1st line of my 1st reply ... consider everything inside the DC proprietary and confidential. You ignored that line apparently and decided to focus instead on the article was about the infrastructure and then changed from db technology to programming language in your reply. The point was the same, such information is considered PC, and is WSJ level news when companies decide to do otherwise. I was simply pointing you did the exact same type of switch when you replied. 1) It is a security issue for the issues that a few of have pointed out whether you want to accept it or not. 2) NDA's are enforcable against the signer. And most company's have much larger legal budgets than ex-employees. 3) Hosts (I've more than a decade of experience in that industry) WILL remove your site if it causes them issues. You mentioned PHP... I know a large company (you've used their websites I bet but no I won't say who. I didn't sign an NDA, but respect their wishes) that changed the extension attached the php interpreter JUST so to as not advertise that fact to minimize the exposure. Why would I care what some company wants to claim? Companies claim all sorts of things in NDAs which are not enforceable at all. 1) It is not a security issue. 2) Who cares? 3) My articles have caused a number of issues, yet Knol respects authors more than reactionaries evidently because they are all still up. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Doug Farmer wrote: Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? [AD] As has been pointed out (thanks, guys), our Print Wizard can address this issue, and many more. Some specific points: * If your U2 runs on Unix, Linux, AIX, etc., you can route print jobs to Print Wizard Service Edition (running on a Windows box) as though it were a remote printer. * If your U2 runs on Windows, you can do the same approach, to the same or a different Windows box. Other methods are possible also. * If your program puts out plain text code (no escape sequences), PW will auto-fit it to the page. * If your program puts out PCL-5 data, PW can understand and translate that. * Output can be to PDF, to fax (client or server), or to ANY Windows printer, with great device independence. * PDF output can be emailed, either automatically, semi-automatically, or manually, using Outlook, SMTP, or some others. * Output can be combined with form images (in several formats, with multiple pages in various sequences). * Command and control can be interactive or programmatic. More Pick-specific details are at http://www.anzio.com/resources/print-wizard-and-multivalue-pick-faq Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Extreme slow down on Universe periodically
Thanks to all that have replied. We're still busy researching and testing but we did catch a break yesterday and it appears that the problem could be the same that Wol mentioned. We have had reports of CPU spikes in the past, but these were only reported in off hours and usually the following day or later. Yesterday however, they noticed a process that was Spiking using 100% CPU. We were able to track it to the user and find out exactly what they were doing. The user confirmed that they would just exit from the telnet session window (Windows Telnet) and not log off properly. When I tested this, the Process immediately began spiking. We're thinking and hoping that the slow downs that we have experienced are the cumulative affects of multiple bad disconnects and CPU spikes. I have contacted Rocket to see if/when this issue has been resolved and we will keep monitoring the server. Again thanks for the help and input. We're still going through several of the suggestions to see what impact they may have. Curt Stewart -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 11:54 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Extreme slow down on Universe periodically On 08/04/11 14:04, Curt Stewart wrote: Has anyone in the group experienced this issue and found a resolution? Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. Environment Universe 10.2.10 Windows Server 2003 Virtual Machine (sorry don't know any details on this component) 34 user license, only about 15 active This is an old problem, that might well be resolved on 10.2, but do you have any rogue uvtelnets? We used to get that - they'd get disconnected somehow from their user, and then grab 100% cpu. Kill them, and things went back to normal (we had to crash them, they wouldn't kill, by attaching the debugger or something). Charles mentioned the network. Are your network buffers too large? I'm beginning to pick up from my reading on a hardware/software mismatch at the TCP level, and network slowdown (and catastrophic failure) are the result. Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
Doug Check out PrintWizard or my own offering, mvPDF. Since I see Bob has already given the low-down on PrintWizard, here's my 2 pence on mvPDF grin: - fast, as in very - capture and convert print jobs - PCL interpreter - generate merge forms from BASIC or UniQuery - fully featured report generator from Basic or UniQuery - report mining to capture existing reports and redesign them(*) - real-time two-way BASIC API - document mark-up - digital signatures (*) useful if you have a load of reports to restyle and cannot afford to QA the whole generation process as well, e.g. for financial/regulatory reporting. Full details and evals available at the usual place (www.brianleach.co.uk) Regards Brian -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug Farmer Sent: 12 April 2011 14:40 To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse Here is a question for this group. Has anyone been able to generate PDF files directly from UniData and/or UniVerse without having a manual step involved? In other words, just running a program using the standard PRINTER ON and PRINTER OFF commands, and having the output be a PDF file? Any pointers would be very welcome. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Extreme slow down on Universe periodically
This supports my contention that Windows' telnet client is not robust enough for use in a production environment. [Ad] Anzio, in this situation, will properly close down the host connection before quitting. In addition, it can be configured so that it is not possible (short of Task Manager or reboot) to quit from the client side. This then coerces the user into exiting from the menu system on the server, clear out to where the telnetd or sshd closes the connection. Then the client side (Anzio) reacts to this and quits. It avoids a lot of problems. On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Curt Stewart wrote: Thanks to all that have replied. We're still busy researching and testing but we did catch a break yesterday and it appears that the problem could be the same that Wol mentioned. We have had reports of CPU spikes in the past, but these were only reported in off hours and usually the following day or later. Yesterday however, they noticed a process that was Spiking using 100% CPU. We were able to track it to the user and find out exactly what they were doing. The user confirmed that they would just exit from the telnet session window (Windows Telnet) and not log off properly. When I tested this, the Process immediately began spiking. We're thinking and hoping that the slow downs that we have experienced are the cumulative affects of multiple bad disconnects and CPU spikes. I have contacted Rocket to see if/when this issue has been resolved and we will keep monitoring the server. Again thanks for the help and input. We're still going through several of the suggestions to see what impact they may have. Curt Stewart -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists Sent: Friday, April 08, 2011 11:54 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Extreme slow down on Universe periodically On 08/04/11 14:04, Curt Stewart wrote: Has anyone in the group experienced this issue and found a resolution? Any and all suggestions would be appreciated. Environment Universe 10.2.10 Windows Server 2003 Virtual Machine (sorry don't know any details on this component) 34 user license, only about 15 active This is an old problem, that might well be resolved on 10.2, but do you have any rogue uvtelnets? We used to get that - they'd get disconnected somehow from their user, and then grab 100% cpu. Kill them, and things went back to normal (we had to crash them, they wouldn't kill, by attaching the debugger or something). Charles mentioned the network. Are your network buffers too large? I'm beginning to pick up from my reading on a hardware/software mismatch at the TCP level, and network slowdown (and catastrophic failure) are the result. Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Regards, Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com company e-mail: r...@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc. 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9 Portland, OR 97223 USA ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
Please make use of available resources... http://www.pickwiki.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CreatePDFDocuments ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
I appreciate all of the ideas and responses. I was looking for something we could integrate into our product that could then be used by our customers. It looks like a lot of these suggestions work outside of any product and could be installed directly by the end user customer (which is nice!). BTW - Platforms are Windows and HP-UX, UniData 7.2 and higher. I will pass along these suggestions to others that are interested. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
Doug: We've incorporated the PrintWizard PCL2PDF executable on our UniData server. Our application asks the user to generate a report, then asks them where to output the report when it's done. If the user selects a .pdf then a BASIC program runs the PW executable that converts the spooler .txt file to a .pdf file. The spooler ID is then passed back and the user is sent to that URL; which happens to be a virtual directory on our internal web server. The .pdf then displays in the Adobe plug-in in the user's web browser. All this is integrated via our BASIC code. So, I'm thinking this is a pretty integrated solution that's available that runs from within UD. HTH, Bill - Original Message - *From:* dfar...@epicor.com *To:* U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org *Date:* 4/12/2011 12:44 PM *Subject:* Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse I appreciate all of the ideas and responses. I was looking for something we could integrate into our product that could then be used by our customers. It looks like a lot of these suggestions work outside of any product and could be installed directly by the end user customer (which is nice!). BTW - Platforms are Windows and HP-UX, UniData 7.2 and higher. I will pass along these suggestions to others that are interested. Doug This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose or distribute this e-mail without the author's prior permission. We have taken precautions to minimize the risk of transmitting software viruses, but we advise you to carry out your own virus checks on any attachment to this message. We cannot accept liability for any loss or damage caused by software viruses. Any views and/or opinions expressed in this e-mail are of the author only and do not represent the views of Epicor Software Corporation or any other company within its group. This message has been scanned for malware by Websense. www.websense.com ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Extreme slow down on Universe periodically
On 12/04/11 19:37, Curt Stewart wrote: Thanks to all that have replied. We're still busy researching and testing but we did catch a break yesterday and it appears that the problem could be the same that Wol mentioned. We have had reports of CPU spikes in the past, but these were only reported in off hours and usually the following day or later. Yesterday however, they noticed a process that was Spiking using 100% CPU. We were able to track it to the user and find out exactly what they were doing. The user confirmed that they would just exit from the telnet session window (Windows Telnet) and not log off properly. When I tested this, the Process immediately began spiking. Okay, if that's what it looks like ... by the way, Bob, we used wIntegrate, and not Windows Telnet ... We're thinking and hoping that the slow downs that we have experienced are the cumulative affects of multiple bad disconnects and CPU spikes. I have contacted Rocket to see if/when this issue has been resolved and we will keep monitoring the server. If you get a report of a slowdown, get onto the server and run Task Manager (teaching grandma to suck eggs, but right click the task bar and select it). Sort processes by cpu and see if uvtelnet has floated to the top :-) Right click the process and kill it. As I said, though, we found that end process wouldn't do it. Selecting debug, however, did. Again thanks for the help and input. We're still going through several of the suggestions to see what impact they may have. Cheers, Wol ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse
There are lots of choices. Ten years ago we found and continue to use PCL2PDF32 (from www.visual.co.uk ) on Windows Server 2003 with Universe 10.x as a complete command line interface. PCL in, PDF out. All of our forms are designed in a non-gui graphics design language that render to native PCL so there was no extra work to use this product except put in the conversion flags we like. Nice too that it also optionally creates compressed PDF files that save a lot of space over the original text files for archive purposes. For email, we use BLAT and attach the PDF file. Or the user can choose to view the PDF (via wIntegrate file launch) instead of using the email print choice. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Ed Clark Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 7:45 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] PDF Files directly from UniData or UniVerse Swiftview is nice and has a lot of features. There is also pcl2pdf from www.visual.co.uk which I know works on AIX. _ Scanned by IBM Email Security Management Services powered by MessageLabs. For more information please visit http://www.ers.ibm.com This email is intended only for the use of the party to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, or protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of the email or its contents is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately, by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. WARNING: Internet communications are not assured to be secure or clear of inaccuracies as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this email, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. _ ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] Opinions on Cache
First I like to thank all that have responded to my query. I knew that posting a question that may lead me to dropping U2 as a database may cause some concern as to whether that is appropriate for this list. I believe it is, because I want the opinions of people who have experience/exposure in both U2 and Cache. There was a bit of confusion about U2 and SB. If I decide to go with Cache, I would abandon the SB platform for GUI UI. I was interested if there was any conversion utilities between SB and .NET forms. Specifically if Cache has .NET DLLs/providers for connectivity and databinding in .Net controls, etc. I haven't looked at SB/XA yet, which I believe is the XAML (WPF) replacement for SB. The candidate application is approx 15 years old (last used 3 years ago) and is due for a major rewrite/overhaul. I have used WebDE (Redback) in the past and was satisfied with it as middleware. After the comments from this forum, I am going to request an evaluation version from Intersystems. Again, I just wanted to thank all for their comments, both online and offline. Thanks, Don Verhagen Emjack Group LLC. u2-us...@southeast-florida.com -Original Message- Various Posters =) ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] [UV] SET.SQL SELECT.BUFFER from UNIOLEDB Client?
Does anyone know how to get around a low SELBUF (.uvconfig) from an OLEDB (or ODBC) client? From TCL I can run SET.SQL SELECT.BUFFER From my UNIOLE DB client I am getting an Abort! Can't change SELBUF. Cheers Stuart ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] [UV] SET.SQL SELECT.BUFFER from UNIOLEDB Client?
Not sure if this would work, but would it be possible to include SET.SQL SELECT.BUFFER in the LOGIN in the VOC? Cheers, Brian. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Boydell, Stuart Sent: Wednesday, 13 April 2011 2:50 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] [UV] SET.SQL SELECT.BUFFER from UNIOLEDB Client? Does anyone know how to get around a low SELBUF (.uvconfig) from an OLEDB (or ODBC) client? From TCL I can run SET.SQL SELECT.BUFFER From my UNIOLE DB client I am getting an Abort! Can't change SELBUF. Cheers Stuart ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- Message protected by DealerGuard: e-mail anti-virus, anti-spam and content filtering. http://www.pentanasolutions.com Click here to report this message as spam: https://login.mailguard.com.au/report/1C60HT2uQI/3rzZlKIa1Yr5ZAbAHOQgBv/0.6 This email and any attachments to it are confidential. You must not use, disclose or act on the email if you are not the intended recipient. Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
