RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...
Comp covers injuries while working. If you were hurt in an accident from the airport to the conference, since you were only there for work, it is likely a Worker Comp claim that would pay the medical bills. You personal insurance would likely deny the claim since it 'happened in the course of work duties' unless you have personal riders to fix that. Call your insurance agent for 'real' information - I just know what I hear... And you can't trust 50% of that!! My whole reason for the post - you need to make sure ducks are in a row with whoever watches your ducks! (And only if you care -- if you're happy-go-lucky none of this matters anyway!! g) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:35 AM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class... What is Workers Comp? Is it like insurance for like falling off of a ladder at a company? Or is it, the company has to pay you to go? Or, you need to pay for a permit? Please advise. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...
That's why I called -- it appears to be a TERRIBLY written rule/law -- CNA is who notified me of it, and if you read the 'Comp Blogs' it IS causing them to lose business. It wasn't well thought out it appears. As long as you're not 'working' there, you're OK, or if your carrier by default gives you some sort of NY rider. I'd have to add a full policy in my case, or any issue I had there that would be 'Comp-able' would be denied everywhere -- by CNA locally and by New York - both because I didn't have the right coverage. So - not worth the risk or buying a policy since I don't normally have work there anyway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:26 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class... I think I would recheck that. If it is true that would stop New York's convention business completely and I don't think that would be what they would want. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...
http://ebn.benefitnews.com/asset/article/163509/compliance/new-york-workers- comp-rule-impacts.html This confirms David's research (independently)... I also called the Worker's Compensation Board, and received the same answer as David. Regards, Bob Wyatt Ashwood Computer, Inc. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...
I don't believe this is an appropriate forum for political comment. Tom Dodds -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 8:08 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class... Have they got a definition of what is considered work? Anybody that attends a convention for their company is usually getting paid while there so I guess it would be considered working there. Or, would it? What do you expect from a state that would support Hillary for congress or anything? -Original Message- From: David Wolverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:49 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class... That's why I called -- it appears to be a TERRIBLY written rule/law -- CNA is who notified me of it, and if you read the 'Comp Blogs' it IS causing them to lose business. It wasn't well thought out it appears. As long as you're not 'working' there, you're OK, or if your carrier by default gives you some sort of NY rider. I'd have to add a full policy in my case, or any issue I had there that would be 'Comp-able' would be denied everywhere -- by CNA locally and by New York - both because I didn't have the right coverage. So - not worth the risk or buying a policy since I don't normally have work there anyway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:26 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class... I think I would recheck that. If it is true that would stop New York's convention business completely and I don't think that would be what they would want. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ __ NOD32 2589 (20071012) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...
That's how I'm reading it. You would have to work for 30 days within a year period for it to apply. So a convention for 7 days wouldn't apply. But 5 Conventions for 7 days each would. Jeffrey Lettau ERP Systems Manager polkaudio -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Wyatt Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:08 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class... This is incorrect, per my research... If the convention or conference had a duration of 30 days or more, yes... Please refer to http://www.wcb.state.ny.us/content/main/Small_Business/outOfStateEmp_com pLaw .jsp Regards, Bob Wyatt Ashwood Computer, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:05 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class... But I just found out that if any Employee is 'working' in New York, you have to have a New York Workers Comp policy. This is a new ruling, and I just called Albany compliance (866-298-7830) to find out if attending a conference 'counts' as employment duties/working. And they said yes. So - I for one will not be able to be attending since I'm not going to add New York Workers Comp to attend a conference! And I thought it should be 'known' that if you are attending as an 'employee' or sending an 'employee', you may want to find out if you need to have a New York Workers Comp policy in place. Hope I can make the California show now!! David W. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ This email may contain confidential and/or privileged information. It is intended only for the person or persons to whom it is addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email or telephone and destroy all copies of the original message. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...
This is incorrect, per my research... If the convention or conference had a duration of 30 days or more, yes... Please refer to http://www.wcb.state.ny.us/content/main/Small_Business/outOfStateEmp_compLaw .jsp Regards, Bob Wyatt Ashwood Computer, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:05 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class... But I just found out that if any Employee is 'working' in New York, you have to have a New York Workers Comp policy. This is a new ruling, and I just called Albany compliance (866-298-7830) to find out if attending a conference 'counts' as employment duties/working. And they said yes. So - I for one will not be able to be attending since I'm not going to add New York Workers Comp to attend a conference! And I thought it should be 'known' that if you are attending as an 'employee' or sending an 'employee', you may want to find out if you need to have a New York Workers Comp policy in place. Hope I can make the California show now!! David W. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...
What is Workers Comp? Is it like insurance for like falling off of a ladder at a company? Or is it, the company has to pay you to go? Or, you need to pay for a permit? Please advise. --Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Wolverton Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:05 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class... But I just found out that if any Employee is 'working' in New York, you have to have a New York Workers Comp policy. This is a new ruling, and I just called Albany compliance (866-298-7830) to find out if attending a conference 'counts' as employment duties/working. And they said yes. So - I for one will not be able to be attending since I'm not going to add New York Workers Comp to attend a conference! And I thought it should be 'known' that if you are attending as an 'employee' or sending an 'employee', you may want to find out if you need to have a New York Workers Comp policy in place. Hope I can make the California show now!! David W. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...
Have they got a definition of what is considered work? Anybody that attends a convention for their company is usually getting paid while there so I guess it would be considered working there. Or, would it? What do you expect from a state that would support Hillary for congress or anything? -Original Message- From: David Wolverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:49 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class... That's why I called -- it appears to be a TERRIBLY written rule/law -- CNA is who notified me of it, and if you read the 'Comp Blogs' it IS causing them to lose business. It wasn't well thought out it appears. As long as you're not 'working' there, you're OK, or if your carrier by default gives you some sort of NY rider. I'd have to add a full policy in my case, or any issue I had there that would be 'Comp-able' would be denied everywhere -- by CNA locally and by New York - both because I didn't have the right coverage. So - not worth the risk or buying a policy since I don't normally have work there anyway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:26 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class... I think I would recheck that. If it is true that would stop New York's convention business completely and I don't think that would be what they would want. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...
I think I would recheck that. If it is true that would stop New York's convention business completely and I don't think that would be what they would want. -Original Message- From: David Wolverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:05 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class... But I just found out that if any Employee is 'working' in New York, you have to have a New York Workers Comp policy. This is a new ruling, and I just called Albany compliance (866-298-7830) to find out if attending a conference 'counts' as employment duties/working. And they said yes. So - I for one will not be able to be attending since I'm not going to add New York Workers Comp to attend a conference! And I thought it should be 'known' that if you are attending as an 'employee' or sending an 'employee', you may want to find out if you need to have a New York Workers Comp policy in place. Hope I can make the California show now!! David W. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/ --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/
RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class...
All I know is what CNA told me and the Albany Workers Comp compliance office told me. If you hear differently from a source that could be an expert witness on this material in a courtroom, let me know! g New York would be a better location for me, although I found my airfare to CA will only be $98 each way from Dallas -- WOW. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lettau, Jeff Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 10:41 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] I *was* Going to the New York U2U Class... That's how I'm reading it. You would have to work for 30 days within a year period for it to apply. So a convention for 7 days wouldn't apply. But 5 Conventions for 7 days each would. Jeffrey Lettau ERP Systems Manager polkaudio --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/