RE: [UV] paragraph labels
It's documented behaviour that GO to a label that does not exist in a paragraph will cause the process to exit from the paragraph. From memory it's in the UniVerse System Description somewhere. There's no default label. It's also documented that the same behaviour will occur if you attempt to GO to a label that is earlier in the paragraph than the GO command. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [UV] paragraph labels
What does the 'also documented' sentence mean. How would a non-existant label appear before the GO in a paragraph. Regarding paragraphs: Do they behave like procs whereby you can accidentally have the same label twice and the proc goes to the first occurrence (starting at the beginning). This is a downside of procs due to not needing to be compiled. my 1 cent. - Original Message - From: Ray Wurlod [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U2 Users Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 5:03 AM Subject: RE: [UV] paragraph labels It's documented behaviour that GO to a label that does not exist in a paragraph will cause the process to exit from the paragraph. From memory it's in the UniVerse System Description somewhere. There's no default label. It's also documented that the same behaviour will occur if you attempt to GO to a label that is earlier in the paragraph than the GO command. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [UV] paragraph labels
PARAGRAPHS are GREAT! Any PARAGRAPH using GO statements should have unique explicit labels. GO statements of any PARAGRAPH should explicitly call the label they want to go to. Logically, it does not make sense to have two have two different, but equally labeled PARAGRAPH Subroutines if you will. Best Advice for any price? Get the documentation and read it. - Original Message - From: Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U2 Users Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 11:46 AM Subject: Re: [UV] paragraph labels What does the 'also documented' sentence mean. How would a non-existant label appear before the GO in a paragraph. Regarding paragraphs: Do they behave like procs whereby you can accidentally have the same label twice and the proc goes to the first occurrence (starting at the beginning). This is a downside of procs due to not needing to be compiled. my 1 cent. - Original Message - From: Ray Wurlod [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: U2 Users Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 5:03 AM Subject: RE: [UV] paragraph labels It's documented behaviour that GO to a label that does not exist in a paragraph will cause the process to exit from the paragraph. From memory it's in the UniVerse System Description somewhere. There's no default label. It's also documented that the same behaviour will occur if you attempt to GO to a label that is earlier in the paragraph than the GO command. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
FW: uniVerse problems
Hi Can any one help me on the following: I have loaded universe (file uv1004pe) on my desktop running Windows MS2000 quite some time ago. Initially it worked ok, but when I now try the following uv services do not seem to start. UniVerse Telnet Service UniVerse REXEC service However the other two start correctly: UniVerse Resource Service Uni RPC Service If I start the service using the MS Administrative Tools - Services the following message appears: Microsoft Management Console Could not start the UniVerse Telnet Service service on Local Computer. The service did not return an error. This could be an internal Windows error or an internal service error. If the problem persists, contact your system administrator. and for the other service: Microsoft Management Console Could not start the UniVerse REXEC Service service on Local Computer. The service did not return an error. This could be an internal Windows error or an internal service error. If the problem persists, contact your system administrator. I haven't used universe for a month or so but it did used to work perfectly. Can you advise me on what the problem could be and the a solution. Thanks G -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: uniVerse problems
Is there another telnet service running, perhaps the Win telnet service or possibly another telnet product like Unidata? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greesh Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 3:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: uniVerse problems Hi Can any one help me on the following: I have loaded universe (file uv1004pe) on my desktop running Windows MS2000 quite some time ago. Initially it worked ok, but when I now try the following uv services do not seem to start. UniVerse Telnet Service UniVerse REXEC service However the other two start correctly: UniVerse Resource Service Uni RPC Service If I start the service using the MS Administrative Tools - Services the following message appears: Microsoft Management Console Could not start the UniVerse Telnet Service service on Local Computer. The service did not return an error. This could be an internal Windows error or an internal service error. If the problem persists, contact your system administrator. and for the other service: Microsoft Management Console Could not start the UniVerse REXEC Service service on Local Computer. The service did not return an error. This could be an internal Windows error or an internal service error. If the problem persists, contact your system administrator. I haven't used universe for a month or so but it did used to work perfectly. Can you advise me on what the problem could be and the a solution. Thanks G -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [UV] How much do you pay for support each year?
In support of paying for your support. I have been both an end-user and a var and with the benefit of experience and hindsight I can only say that paying for your support of UV is both fair and reasonable. In some cases it can be argued that it is not necessary but think of it as insurance. If you don't need it then you are lucky but if you do then at least that is one hurdle you do not have to jump in getting things sorted out. I have had clients that have taken the cheap way out only to pay more when they needed it. Not to mention the cost of time lost. My AU$0.02 worth! Cheers Trevor Ockenden OSP - Original Message - From: jimmay h [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 11:04 AM Subject: [UV] How much do you pay for support each year? Our VAR just sent our UniVerse support bill for next year. We are running UniVerse 10.0.0.1 on Windows 2000 Sever. It is $72/user license. With 60 licenses, that is $4320, plus the windows support at 865.00. We used them for some support over the year, but mostly it was related to their installation of UV on the server prior to shipping it to us. We're located on the west coast and their support was in the east coast of the US. So, sometimes their support was slow in responding. They are not our software vendor, they just sold us the server and UniVerse. What are my options? Can we purchase support directly from IBM? Any ideas? _ Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free by AVG 6.0. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.593 / Virus Database: 376 - Release Date: 20/02/2004 -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [OT] Pr1me Hardware question
My guess is that it is a Serial Port Controller Board. I used to know what all the Royale/Reality/Sequel boards were. NIC's surely saves a lot of space now. my 1 cent. P.S. Howja get a gig like that. Is it the History Channel aspect of the CS program. I and i'm sure others could talk hours on the hardware issues we had to deal with. My favorite exercise was having to put my finger against the 1/2 inch tapehead of the open reel-to-reel Microdatas when reading tapes from one system to another. The tape would stream back and forth trying to catch its parity until just enough pressure by my fingers would cause those 8 tracks (not to be confused with 8-tracks) to line up. Jurrasic Pick at its best. Then along came Cipher drives and i put my fingers to better use. My oldest piece of nostalgia is a 1972 Microdata manual pre-Pick. It was a process controller looking for something to do. - Original Message - From: Dawn M. Wolthuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 10:00 PM Subject: [OT] Pr1me Hardware question I'm doing a talk tomorrow to college CS majors (name of talk is: IT is How it Seams -- at least I'm able to entertain myself with the double double meaning) I thought I'd bring in some of the odds and ends I've acquired over the years and one is a board from a Pr1me computer I worked on. It was gifted to me when the machine was retired. However, I'm a s/w kinda guy and I don't know a cpu board from a memory board from anything else. I figured this was the best place to ask about prime hardware, but sorry for being a little off-topic. It is an 18 inch-ish square green board with black chips and few white ones that say Bechman on them. The black ones are at least three different sizes. Along one side it has stickers that say LINES 0-3 ... LINES 12-15. That seems like a big clue, but I figured someone here would know what such a board might have been called. Thanks in advance. --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: [OT] Pr1me Hardware question
Thanks, Mark. I actually did solder pins, crawl through ceilings, thread the tape drives by hand, etc, but I enjoy computer hardware as much as I enjoy car engines (not at all) except as props for related stories. I got the gig because I recently moved to a city of 7,000 with lots of cows pigs and also a small college. There are not a lot of special guest speakers for the CS club at the college among the pigs and cows. It isn't going to be a history lesson, but a discussion about the seams in the fabric of our systems (quoting Gates from his seamless computing speech at comdex last year). I'll look at how these seams changed in going to the network is the computer infrastructure. But I'll carry with me a portable disk pack, this board, and my Pr1me Oracle 9-track tape 'cause I can weave in some fine stories. Smiles. --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Johnson Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:25 PM To: U2 Users Discussion List Subject: Re: [OT] Pr1me Hardware question My guess is that it is a Serial Port Controller Board. I used to know what all the Royale/Reality/Sequel boards were. NIC's surely saves a lot of space now. my 1 cent. P.S. Howja get a gig like that. Is it the History Channel aspect of the CS program. I and i'm sure others could talk hours on the hardware issues we had to deal with. My favorite exercise was having to put my finger against the 1/2 inch tapehead of the open reel-to-reel Microdatas when reading tapes from one system to another. The tape would stream back and forth trying to catch its parity until just enough pressure by my fingers would cause those 8 tracks (not to be confused with 8-tracks) to line up. Jurrasic Pick at its best. Then along came Cipher drives and i put my fingers to better use. My oldest piece of nostalgia is a 1972 Microdata manual pre-Pick. It was a process controller looking for something to do. - Original Message - From: Dawn M. Wolthuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 10:00 PM Subject: [OT] Pr1me Hardware question I'm doing a talk tomorrow to college CS majors (name of talk is: IT is How it Seams -- at least I'm able to entertain myself with the double double meaning) I thought I'd bring in some of the odds and ends I've acquired over the years and one is a board from a Pr1me computer I worked on. It was gifted to me when the machine was retired. However, I'm a s/w kinda guy and I don't know a cpu board from a memory board from anything else. I figured this was the best place to ask about prime hardware, but sorry for being a little off-topic. It is an 18 inch-ish square green board with black chips and few white ones that say Bechman on them. The black ones are at least three different sizes. Along one side it has stickers that say LINES 0-3 ... LINES 12-15. That seems like a big clue, but I figured someone here would know what such a board might have been called. Thanks in advance. --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Wintegrate xterm or Linux emulation
-Original Message- Subject: Wintegrate xterm or Linux emulation Dear All, Has anyone managed to get winteg 4.2 to emulate xterm or linux terminal types or does anyone know if winteg 5 emulates either of these? Looking at wintegrate if I put together a .wit and put it in wintsys/wit directory it might work but I thought I'd ask in case anyone has been there. Thanks, Adrian -- Hi Adrian, We're running wIntegrate 5.1.0 to get to UniData 5.2.15. In checking the terminal setup dialogue, wIntegrate supports the following types of terminal emulations: addsvp adm11 amp230 ansi at386 cifer d413ibm3151 in4407 in9400 in9400b Monitor Nonepcmon prism prism9 pt200 qvt119 regent scoansi tvi950 tvi955 tvi965 viewdata vt100 vt220 vt420 vt52 w50vp wyse50 wyse60 Hope that helps... Jonathan H. Brock 911 Systems/Database Administrator Josephine County 911 Agency 500 NW Sixth Street - Courthouse Grants Pass, OR 97526 Office: 541-472-1911 Cell: 541-218-4981 Pager: 541-955-2298 Office Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.592 / Virus Database: 375 - Release Date: 2/18/2004 -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [OT] Pr1me Hardware question
Wow. I appreciate the OT, Dawn! I used to work at Pr1me, started in manufacturing in 1979, doing incoming quality control on their multi-layered printed circuit boards. This board may even have a stamp on it, showing who actually tested the board through the process. I moved up to Marketing Technical Support at the Corporate Marketing Support Center from manufacturing in 1981, and was there until 1983 - when I went off to join Pr1me VAR MADIC, (manufacturing applications package), written in Pr1me INFORMATION. I ended up coming back to Prime in 1986, after MADIC had business difficulties, and was a founding technical member of the PICK to Pr1me INFORMATION Conversion Reseller Support Center. I would dare to say that you are looking a an AMLC - Asynchronous Multi Line Controller card. Serial tty I/O board, four connectors of four Asynch ports per, yeilding 16, (0-15), total ports. I think 9600 baud maximum, (maybe 19.2K?). If I remember correctly, these are four layer, maybe 6 layers, of substrate/circuitry. The 0-3, 4-7, 8-11, 12-15 side would be sticking out the back, where cable assemblies would connect up to them. The opposite side of the board - with two longer gold tipped fingers connectors are, would be plugged into the backplane, which is how all the boards would talk to each other; Memory at the top,CPU board sets next, disk controllers communications controllers next, and asynchronous termial controllers next. Of course, power supplies at the base. These backplanes were basicially printed circuit boards, yet some of them still had wire-wrapped connections on them. These would be the boards that handled serial tty RS232 ports to dumb terminals, BeeHives (PT-45), Perkin Elmer OWL, PT200's in the later years. Do you recall what model of Pr1me 50 Series it came from? What company were you working at that was using it? I hope this helps provide you with some historical technical tidbits to share with the young whippa-snappers! Regards, Scott Richardson Senior Systems Engineer / Consultant Marlborough, MA 01752 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://home.comcast.net/~CheetahFTL/CC eFax: 208-445-1259 - Original Message - From: Dawn M. Wolthuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 10:00 PM Subject: [OT] Pr1me Hardware question I'm doing a talk tomorrow to college CS majors (name of talk is: IT is How it Seams -- at least I'm able to entertain myself with the double double meaning) I thought I'd bring in some of the odds and ends I've acquired over the years and one is a board from a Pr1me computer I worked on. It was gifted to me when the machine was retired. However, I'm a s/w kinda guy and I don't know a cpu board from a memory board from anything else. I figured this was the best place to ask about prime hardware, but sorry for being a little off-topic. It is an 18 inch-ish square green board with black chips and few white ones that say Bechman on them. The black ones are at least three different sizes. Along one side it has stickers that say LINES 0-3 ... LINES 12-15. That seems like a big clue, but I figured someone here would know what such a board might have been called. Thanks in advance. --dawn Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. www.tincat-group.com Take and give some delight today. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[OT] Seattle / Olympia work
I see that people are trolling for work here, so I'll throw in. Looking for local contract or perm position or telecomputing contract. Seattle or Olympia WA, USA area. Resume at: http://www.connectexpress.com/~bobg/bob-resume.html Thanks, Bob Gerrish - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
RE: Australia
Hi Mara, Sorry I haven't responded earlier - it's been a while since I've had an opportunity to check the u2 mail. If it's not too late try:- http://www.seek.com.au/ I live and work in Perth so if I can help you any further, please let me know. Good luck Michael Manus -Original Message- From: Mara Cohn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2004 12:09 am To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Australia Anyone have any contacts/links to PICK jobs in Perth, W. Australia. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users Disclaimer. This e-mail is private and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please advise us by return e-mail immediately, and delete the e-mail and any attachments without using or disclosing the contents in any way. The views expressed in this e-mail are those of the author, and do not represent those of this company unless this is clearly indicated. You should scan this e-mail and any attachments for viruses. This company accepts no liability for any direct or indirect damage or loss resulting from the use of any attachments to this e-mail. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
