Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts

[Jimmy Angelakos]

Salane Ashcraft wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Jimmy Angelakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Please allow me to speak frankly:
>>
>> I don't really see what all the fuss is about with that Droid font.
> 
> Would you make a section in the Intrepid Ibex Fonts- Art Team wiki
> page then? Please provide a picture of what you are suggesting and
> some reasoning. Constructive criticism is important.

Done :D

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Font_-_Art_Team

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts

[Salane Ashcraft]

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 4:26 PM, Jimmy Angelakos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please allow me to speak frankly:
>
> I don't really see what all the fuss is about with that Droid font.
> Deja Vu Sans is a beautiful font, especially the Condensed version I
> use as my UI font. It supports many languages and looks quite modern
> without being very "blocky" as Troy calls it.
>
> Droid has extreme usability problems on my machine here. It looks very
> condensed at the UI Font selection window, even more so than
> DejaVuSansCondensed. However when I select it, it appears as a very
> plain-looking uncondensed font (even plainer than FreeSans). When I
> fire up Firefox, I get the extremely condensed version again, at the
> same time when it looks uncondensed on my desktop.
>
> What happened to the discussion about D.V.S.C. being the default font
> and why are we considering a font that *might* be open source one day?
>
> Cheers,
> Jimmy
>

Would you make a section in the Intrepid Ibex Fonts- Art Team wiki
page then? Please provide a picture of what you are suggesting and
some reasoning. Constructive criticism is important.



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Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts

[Jimmy Angelakos]

Please allow me to speak frankly:

I don't really see what all the fuss is about with that Droid font. 
Deja Vu Sans is a beautiful font, especially the Condensed version I 
use as my UI font. It supports many languages and looks quite modern 
without being very "blocky" as Troy calls it.

Droid has extreme usability problems on my machine here. It looks very 
condensed at the UI Font selection window, even more so than 
DejaVuSansCondensed. However when I select it, it appears as a very 
plain-looking uncondensed font (even plainer than FreeSans). When I 
fire up Firefox, I get the extremely condensed version again, at the 
same time when it looks uncondensed on my desktop.

What happened to the discussion about D.V.S.C. being the default font 
and why are we considering a font that *might* be open source one day?

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] // successful use of dark colours: 2 examples //

[Salane Ashcraft]

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 3:31 PM, Michael McKinley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:09 PM, shadowh511 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I think we need to have both a bright theme for newbies and a darker theme
>> for the more experienced
>
> Just out of curiosity, why would newbies prefer bright themes and
> experienced users prefer dark themes?  I like the idea of including both a
> dark theme and bright theme, but they should be targeted solely based on a
> user's aesthetic preferences, not based on their ability/experience.  I
> think many "newbies" would prefer a darker theme and many experienced users
> a brighter theme.



I dont see the correlation. I think its pretty even... when you look
at power user's screenshots, it seems they prefer neither really.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] // successful use of dark colours: 2 examples //

[Michael McKinley]

On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 12:09 PM, shadowh511 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think we need to have both a bright theme for newbies and a darker theme
> for the more experienced

Just out of curiosity, why would newbies prefer bright themes and
experienced users prefer dark themes?  I like the idea of including both a
dark theme and bright theme, but they should be targeted solely based on a
user's aesthetic preferences, not based on their ability/experience.  I
think many "newbies" would prefer a darker theme and many experienced users
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Art Wiki Pages

[Salane Ashcraft]

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:24 PM, AA Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:12 PM, AA Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> With regards to icons, Shuttleworth wanted us to start with the folder
>> >> icon, and create a new look based off of the human theme. So yes, we
>> >> are staying with the orange/brown look.
>> >>  Icons:
>> >>
>> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Icons_-_Art_Team
>> >
>> > So are we keeping just the human folder icon and building off of that,
>> > or
>> > keeping the orange/brown color scheme and building a new theme from
>> > that? If
>> > the former, I think it would be hard to make new icons since the current
>> > ones are so ingrained in ubuntu that they would only look like mods of
>> > the
>> > current one. If the latter, then I think that the Discovery icons would
>> > be a
>> > good base to go off of.
>> >
>> > Smartboy
>> >
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>> >
>>
>> Mark was pretty insistent that we build off of the current ones. I
>> think that if you replace colors with more brown, but still some
>> orange, and with less gloss and more smooth gradients, we can retain
>> the look while updating it enough so it looks modern.
>>
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> Since that is the case, I think an update to the wiki would be in order, as
> you don't explain in the wiki that you should use the current Human icons.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Art Wiki Pages

[AA Boy]

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:12 PM, AA Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> With regards to icons, Shuttleworth wanted us to start with the folder
> >> icon, and create a new look based off of the human theme. So yes, we
> >> are staying with the orange/brown look.
> >>  Icons:
> >>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Icons_-_Art_Team
> >
> > So are we keeping just the human folder icon and building off of that, or
> > keeping the orange/brown color scheme and building a new theme from that?
> If
> > the former, I think it would be hard to make new icons since the current
> > ones are so ingrained in ubuntu that they would only look like mods of
> the
> > current one. If the latter, then I think that the Discovery icons would
> be a
> > good base to go off of.
> >
> > Smartboy
> >
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> >
>
> Mark was pretty insistent that we build off of the current ones. I
> think that if you replace colors with more brown, but still some
> orange, and with less gloss and more smooth gradients, we can retain
> the look while updating it enough so it looks modern.
>
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Since that is the case, I think an update to the wiki would be in order, as
you don't explain in the wiki that you should use the current Human icons.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Art Wiki Pages

[Salane Ashcraft]

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:12 PM, AA Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> With regards to icons, Shuttleworth wanted us to start with the folder
>> icon, and create a new look based off of the human theme. So yes, we
>> are staying with the orange/brown look.
>>  Icons:
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Icons_-_Art_Team
>
> So are we keeping just the human folder icon and building off of that, or
> keeping the orange/brown color scheme and building a new theme from that? If
> the former, I think it would be hard to make new icons since the current
> ones are so ingrained in ubuntu that they would only look like mods of the
> current one. If the latter, then I think that the Discovery icons would be a
> good base to go off of.
>
> Smartboy
>
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>

Mark was pretty insistent that we build off of the current ones. I
think that if you replace colors with more brown, but still some
orange, and with less gloss and more smooth gradients, we can retain
the look while updating it enough so it looks modern.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Again, top posting.

[Brian Fleeger]

- Original Message 

From: Conn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork 
Sent: Sunday, July 6, 2008 12:09:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Again, top posting.


>When you click reply in Gmail, do *not* 
>begin typing your reply where the cursor rests by default. Scroll 
>down and make your reply *underneath* quoted text, and as an
>optional (but highly recommended) step, delete unnecessary parts 
>of the quoted text.


Can I suggest posting the etiquette primer into the list-serve email sign-up 
sheet?  I am just figuring this out now too, and it seems like a lot could be 
avoided if people were forced to read about the rules in the process of signing 
up.  Alternately, there could be an automated first email for all new users 
that laid out the rules.  Otherwise this is going to be an endless back and 
forth as new people sign up.

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Art Wiki Pages

[AA Boy]

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> With regards to icons, Shuttleworth wanted us to start with the folder
> icon, and create a new look based off of the human theme. So yes, we
> are staying with the orange/brown look.
>  Icons:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Icons_-_Art_Team
>

So are we keeping just the human folder icon and building off of that, or
keeping the orange/brown color scheme and building a new theme from that? If
the former, I think it would be hard to make new icons since the current
ones are so ingrained in ubuntu that they would only look like mods of the
current one. If the latter, then I think that the Discovery icons would be a
good base to go off of.

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[ubuntu-art] Intrepid Ibex Art Wiki Pages

[Salane Ashcraft]

Hello Ubuntu Artists-

I spoke with Shuttleworth at the last Community Council meeting. I
discussed with him what to do with the current look of Ubuntu. He is
in favor of giving at as big of an update as we, the art team, can
provide. He wants new fonts, new icons, and a new theme. We need to be
more organized, so we came up with a plan.

He wants all of this to be completely community driven. He wasn't
really in favor of one persons idea for a theme or an icon set, but
would rather us work together, in a unified movement, to get things
done.

A wiki page in the Ubunt wiki will be created for each one of these
areas. the first one, regarding fonts, already has been created.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Font_-_Art_Team

Please find open source fonts, create a section for them, and post a
picture showing what they look like.

We will use this same model for icons and the theme.


With regards to icons, Shuttleworth wanted us to start with the folder
icon, and create a new look based off of the human theme. So yes, we
are staying with the orange/brown look.
 Icons: 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Intrepid/Intrepid_Ibex_Icons_-_Art_Team

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Again, top posting.

[Salane Ashcraft]

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 12:09 PM, Conn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah I know gmail does that- I just hate having lots of stuff in my email.
>> I didnt think about it confusing people.
>> Salane
>
> You're still top-posting. When you click reply in Gmail, do *not* begin
> typing your reply where the cursor rests by default. Scroll down and make
> your reply *underneath* quoted text, and as an optional (but highly
> recommended) step, delete unnecessary parts of the quoted text.
>
> You have to understand that all messages send to this list are being
> delivered to hundreds of people, and they have no control over the manner in
> which these e-mails are presented to them. Only Gmail users can afford the
> luxury of auto-threaded posts with redundant quoted text hidden by default.
> For everyone else, it looks like a mess.
>
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Again, sorry - no one let me know what it did on here, I do this for
my other email, so you can stop discussing this.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Again, top posting.

[Conn]

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Yeah I know gmail does that- I just hate having lots of stuff in my email.
> I didnt think about it confusing people.
> Salane


You're still top-posting. When you click reply in Gmail, do *not* begin
typing your reply where the cursor rests by default. Scroll down and make
your reply *underneath* quoted text, and as an optional (but highly
recommended) step, delete unnecessary parts of the quoted text.

You have to understand that all messages send to this list are being
delivered to hundreds of people, and they have no control over the manner in
which these e-mails are presented to them. Only Gmail users can afford the
luxury of auto-threaded posts with redundant quoted text hidden by default.
For everyone else, it looks like a mess.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Again, top posting.

[Travis Watkins]

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:39 AM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah I know gmail does that- I just hate having lots of stuff in my email. I
> didnt think about it confusing people.
> Salane
>

You don't have to type in the space gmail puts at the top of the
email, you know. You can skip to the bottom and type, like I just did
to send this.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts

[Salane Ashcraft]

I figured out how to fix it. Thanks for letting me know!
Salane

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Kenneth Wimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sunday 06 July 2008 17:25:03 Salane Ashcraft wrote:
> > Hey guys - read way back in this discussion- they are to be released as
> > open source. Dont jsut read some old blog post and assume we cant use them.
> > Salane
> >
> > How about we end this discussion? Ken I think is going to contact them to
> > make sure.
>
> Please include your comments to an email after the part that you are refering
> to so that people can follow the discussion. ie, do not top-post :-)
>
> Thanks,
> Ken
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Again, top posting.

[Salane Ashcraft]

Yeah I know gmail does that- I just hate having lots of stuff in my email. I
didnt think about it confusing people.
Salane

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 11:35 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>
>
> Do you see how this breaks continuity when someone top-posts and then
> people who know the rules reply? What came 1st is damn hard to understand.
>
> Salene, I know you are new around here but please don't ignore the
> long-standing etiquette.
>
> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists/etiquette#head-c70bc55ce24849bd82885e8b0f7e972465944b5a
>
> If this is a problem with Gmail users you need to fix your settings.
>
> -Cory K.
>
> -Cory.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts

[Kenneth Wimer]

On Sunday 06 July 2008 17:25:03 Salane Ashcraft wrote:
> Hey guys - read way back in this discussion- they are to be released as
> open source. Dont jsut read some old blog post and assume we cant use them.
> Salane
>
> How about we end this discussion? Ken I think is going to contact them to
> make sure.

Please include your comments to an email after the part that you are refering 
to so that people can follow the discussion. ie, do not top-post :-)

Thanks,
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[ubuntu-art] Again, top posting.

[Cory K.]

Salane Ashcraft wrote:
> Hey guys - read way back in this discussion- they are to be released
> as open source. Dont jsut read some old blog post and assume we cant
> use them.
> Salane
>
> How about we end this discussion? Ken I think is going to contact them
> to make sure.
>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
>
> AA Boy wrote:
> > According to a comment on this blog post
> >
> 
> ,
> > the droid fonts are, in fact, not free. So whether they look good or
> > not is beside the point, as they cannot be included due to licensing
> > restrictions.
> >
> > Smartboy
>
> *PLEASE* everyone stop top-posting. We've been over this time and time
> and time and time again.
>
> The license has been addressed already further back in this "font
> chat".
> (though spread across a couple of threads) They are gonna be under a
> license that will free them up to use at some point apparently.
>
> -Cory K.
>
>


Do you see how this breaks continuity when someone top-posts and then
people who know the rules reply? What came 1st is damn hard to understand.

Salene, I know you are new around here but please don't ignore the
long-standing etiquette.
http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists/etiquette#head-c70bc55ce24849bd82885e8b0f7e972465944b5a

If this is a problem with Gmail users you need to fix your settings.

-Cory K.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts

[Salane Ashcraft]

Hey guys - read way back in this discussion- they are to be released as open
source. Dont jsut read some old blog post and assume we cant use them.
Salane

How about we end this discussion? Ken I think is going to contact them to
make sure.

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:57 AM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> AA Boy wrote:
> > According to a comment on this blog post
> > <
> http://www.boingboing.net/2007/11/16/droid-sans-mono-a-sw.html#comment-83140
> >,
> > the droid fonts are, in fact, not free. So whether they look good or
> > not is beside the point, as they cannot be included due to licensing
> > restrictions.
> >
> > Smartboy
>
> *PLEASE* everyone stop top-posting. We've been over this time and time
> and time and time again.
>
> The license has been addressed already further back in this "font chat".
> (though spread across a couple of threads) They are gonna be under a
> license that will free them up to use at some point apparently.
>
> -Cory K.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New theme looking for critique based on Human-Clearlooks

[Kenneth Wimer]

On Sunday 06 July 2008 16:56:19 AA Boy wrote:
> Is this better as far as determining which window is unfocused and which is
> focused? I modified the borders so that the gradient is darker going to
> lighter when the windows are unfocused, and lighter going to darker when
> they are focused. I will make a new package soon for this, making the Test2
> window border the default one, so you only have 1 package. :)
>
> Smartboy


Pleast show that you are a smart boy and don't top post anymore :-)

>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Julian Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > ..on or around Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 09:45:57PM -0700 AA Boy wrote:
> > > I made a newer theme based on the Human-Clearlooks theme included with
> > > hardy. I specifically wanted to give it more color (the origional theme
> > > looks more like shades of the same color) while keeping it usable and
> > > friendly. I came up with my modification. I will be uploading it
> >
> > constantly,
> >
> > > so I will just provide a link to the Ubuntu Forums
> > > topic,
> > > where you can download it. I will include a couple screenshots here
> > > with this email so that you may see what the themes look like. Would
> > > you tell
> >
> > me
> >
> > > which window border (the origional or test2 one) you like better? Also,
> >
> > any
> >
> > > criticism is appretiated. Thanks.
> >
> > i far prefer the test2, though it's naturally harder to tell which window
> > is
> > in focus. if unfocussed windows could be further differentiated from the
> > focussed it might we workable as a theme.
> >
> > cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts

[Cory K.]

AA Boy wrote:
> According to a comment on this blog post
> ,
> the droid fonts are, in fact, not free. So whether they look good or
> not is beside the point, as they cannot be included due to licensing
> restrictions.
>
> Smartboy

*PLEASE* everyone stop top-posting. We've been over this time and time
and time and time again.

The license has been addressed already further back in this "font chat".
(though spread across a couple of threads) They are gonna be under a
license that will free them up to use at some point apparently.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New theme looking for critique based on Human-Clearlooks

[AA Boy]

Is this better as far as determining which window is unfocused and which is
focused? I modified the borders so that the gradient is darker going to
lighter when the windows are unfocused, and lighter going to darker when
they are focused. I will make a new package soon for this, making the Test2
window border the default one, so you only have 1 package. :)

Smartboy

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 3:59 AM, Julian Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> ..on or around Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 09:45:57PM -0700 AA Boy wrote:
> > I made a newer theme based on the Human-Clearlooks theme included with
> > hardy. I specifically wanted to give it more color (the origional theme
> > looks more like shades of the same color) while keeping it usable and
> > friendly. I came up with my modification. I will be uploading it
> constantly,
> > so I will just provide a link to the Ubuntu Forums
> > topic,
> > where you can download it. I will include a couple screenshots here with
> > this email so that you may see what the themes look like. Would you tell
> me
> > which window border (the origional or test2 one) you like better? Also,
> any
> > criticism is appretiated. Thanks.
>
> i far prefer the test2, though it's naturally harder to tell which window
> is
> in focus. if unfocussed windows could be further differentiated from the
> focussed it might we workable as a theme.
>
> cheers,
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts

[AA Boy]

According to a comment on this blog
post,
the droid fonts are, in fact, not free. So whether they look good or not is
beside the point, as they cannot be included due to licensing restrictions.

Smartboy

On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Kido Mariano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 23:21 -0400, Cory K. wrote:
> > Here's a detailed post about the Droid font.
> >
> > http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-droid-isnt-answer.html
> >
>
> About this one...
>
> I'd agree with the first point. :] However, your UI font won't appear as
> large paragraphs all the time. As phrases, the font looks nice. IMO it's
> better than what we have now.
>
> The rest of the points aren't quite related to Droid Sans being the UI
> font. Droid Serif shouldn't be our main *print* serif font since it's
> meant for screen use, too. It's quite easier to read, though, if that
> matters. (I think Liberation Serif would be nice for this...)
>
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New theme looking for critique based on Human-Clearlooks

[Julian Oliver]

..on or around Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 09:45:57PM -0700 AA Boy wrote: 
> I made a newer theme based on the Human-Clearlooks theme included with
> hardy. I specifically wanted to give it more color (the origional theme
> looks more like shades of the same color) while keeping it usable and
> friendly. I came up with my modification. I will be uploading it constantly,
> so I will just provide a link to the Ubuntu Forums
> topic,
> where you can download it. I will include a couple screenshots here with
> this email so that you may see what the themes look like. Would you tell me
> which window border (the origional or test2 one) you like better? Also, any
> criticism is appretiated. Thanks.

i far prefer the test2, though it's naturally harder to tell which window is
in focus. if unfocussed windows could be further differentiated from the
focussed it might we workable as a theme.

cheers,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Droid Fonts

[Kido Mariano]

On Sat, 2008-07-05 at 23:21 -0400, Cory K. wrote:
> Here's a detailed post about the Droid font.
> 
> http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-droid-isnt-answer.html
> 

About this one...

I'd agree with the first point. :] However, your UI font won't appear as
large paragraphs all the time. As phrases, the font looks nice. IMO it's
better than what we have now.

The rest of the points aren't quite related to Droid Sans being the UI
font. Droid Serif shouldn't be our main *print* serif font since it's
meant for screen use, too. It's quite easier to read, though, if that
matters. (I think Liberation Serif would be nice for this...)





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Re: [ubuntu-art] New theme looking for critique based on Human-Clearlooks

[AA Boy]

You mean like make it even more distinct (the text and buttons "blend in"
more with the title bar than the default) by darkening the border? I will
try that out and see how it works.

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Travis Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:45 PM, AA Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I made a newer theme based on the Human-Clearlooks theme included with
> > hardy. I specifically wanted to give it more color (the origional theme
> > looks more like shades of the same color) while keeping it usable and
> > friendly. I came up with my modification. I will be uploading it
> constantly,
> > so I will just provide a link to the Ubuntu Forums topic, where you can
> > download it. I will include a couple screenshots here with this email so
> > that you may see what the themes look like. Would you tell me which
> window
> > border (the origional or test2 one) you like better? Also, any criticism
> is
> > appretiated. Thanks.
> >
>
> Your blended window borders lack any significant difference between
> active and inactive windows. I can see what you're trying to do but to
> pull it off you'd have to be able to theme the actual inactive windows
> differently too so they blend with a titlebar that shows the
> difference clearly.
>
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The box around active windows? What do you mean?

On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:27 PM, Salane Ashcraft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I also think that the box around the active windows should be removed- that
> would be perfect.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Travis Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 11:45 PM, AA Boy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I made a newer theme based on the Human-Clearlooks theme included with
>> > hardy. I specifically wanted to give it more color (the origional theme
>> > looks more like shades of the same color) while keeping it usable and
>> > friendly. I came up with my modification. I will be uploading it
>> constantly,
>> > so I will just provide a link to the Ubuntu Forums topic, where you can
>> > download it. I will include a couple screenshots here with this email so
>> > that you may see what the themes look like. Would you tell me which
>> window
>> > border (the origional or test2 one) you like better? Also, any criticism
>> is
>> > appretiated. Thanks.
>> >
>>
>> Your blended window borders lack any significant difference between
>> active and inactive windows. I can see what you're trying to do but to
>> pull it off you'd have to be able to theme the actual inactive windows
>> differently too so they blend with a titlebar that shows the
>> difference clearly.
>>
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