Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
2009/2/23 Ryan Prior > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Anton Kerezov wrote: > >> > This is a tricky issue. Of course, the "logo" is in the center, but the eye > tends to be attracted to the center of the circle, not the center of the > logo. I'd suggest extending the right side, like Anton says, in order to > balance the amount of orange space on the left side with some on the right. > The only way to extend the right side it's scaling down the Ubuntu logo because the size of the object in the back it's 22 x 22. I'm refining the icon and making the other sizes, I see what I can do. (Little preview: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/start-here3.svg) -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Oliver Scholtz wrote: > Am Montag, den 23.02.2009, 15:20 -0500 schrieb Cory K.: > > Ryan Prior wrote: > > > I'm starting tot think this is a case where pixel art > > > should really be sought rather than vector art. All the tiny "start" > icons > > > I'm seeing remind me of the limitations of vector art as the size of > final > > > icon shrinks, so if you can either touch-up or completely compose a > "start > > > here" icon in a by-pixel fashion, I suspect that would produce the best > > > result for us in the end. > > > > > > This is why all the Breathe icons are drawn at the size they are > > intended to be used at. :) So a "tiny" bitmap will be the same as a > > "tiny" SVG when they're both drawn at the same size. > > > > Sebastien's current start images are just tests. > > > > > > -Cory K. > > > > I use Kubuntu and my start-here-Logo is usual 48x48 ;) > > > @ Cory K.: > I tried your PPA and seems that the power-options-icons in 48x48 looks > quite bad on my Desktop. I use the power-switcher-Plamaoid on the > Desktop ;) Think this should be fixed ... > For be more detailed, I am talking about the metal ring. Screenshot > attached (test2.png) ;) > test3.png without this ring is better in my opinion. I agree, the shot without the ring looks much better. The ring is just too shiny, not very Breathe in my opinion. > > Check it out ... :) > > Sincerly Oliver Scholtz > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
Am Montag, den 23.02.2009, 15:51 -0500 schrieb Cory K.: > Oliver Scholtz wrote: > > Am Montag, den 23.02.2009, 15:20 -0500 schrieb Cory K.: > > > >> Ryan Prior wrote: > >> > >>> I'm starting tot think this is a case where pixel art > >>> should really be sought rather than vector art. All the tiny "start" icons > >>> I'm seeing remind me of the limitations of vector art as the size of final > >>> icon shrinks, so if you can either touch-up or completely compose a "start > >>> here" icon in a by-pixel fashion, I suspect that would produce the best > >>> result for us in the end. > >>> > >> This is why all the Breathe icons are drawn at the size they are > >> intended to be used at. :) So a "tiny" bitmap will be the same as a > >> "tiny" SVG when they're both drawn at the same size. > >> > >> Sebastien's current start images are just tests. > >> > > > > I use Kubuntu and my start-here-Logo is usual 48x48 ;) > > > > @ Cory K.: > > I tried your PPA and seems that the power-options-icons in 48x48 looks > > quite bad on my Desktop. I use the power-switcher-Plamaoid on the > > Desktop ;) Think this should be fixed ... > > For be more detailed, I am talking about the metal ring. Screenshot > > attached (test2.png) ;) > > test3.png without this ring is better in my opinion. > > Check it out ... :) > > > > Sincerly Oliver Scholtz > > > > Attach a screenshot but honestly I really don't care much for how it > works on Kubuntu ATM as this is a set for GNOME. So that's where our > focus will be. :) > > > -Cory K. > Stop :!: Gnome3 will comes out. Maybe "Karmic Koala" will use it ... and Breathe will be maybe part of 9.10, too. Who don't says that wouldn't possible to use big icons on the panel!?!? We shouldn't forget the screenlets, too ;) I let this message for thinking about it, because if we do a perfect IconSet, so in every detail :) Honestly I think your right with the moment status. But don't care the possible future is a little bit reckless. :) Sincerly Oliver Scholtz -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Impression Metacity Updates
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Oliver Scholtz wrote: > :) Not importing the style and format of email and answering them ... > it's OT and not the world. LOL > > What about the idea for the metacity-stuff? > I like it, because it's looks like this - "U" b "U" nt "U" - and isn't > square like Windows and round like Mac :) > > I attach the sketches agian ;) > > Sincerly Oliver Scholtz > I like the second of the 2 images. It's very original and looks usable as well. I'm not sure how well it will jive with the rest of the themes though, since the buttons do not contain much vertical symmetry. PS. I hope I've successfully bottom posted this time. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Jaunty BG: Laola
Hi! Just added https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Backgrounds?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=laola_frontal.jpg to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Jaunty/Backgrounds The laola wave is a community effort, people working together to make it happen. Once again the motive of jumping for speed and agility. Not quite happy with the shapes as they are. Initially planned to go all Otl Aicher on them, but the knee and elbow bends are hard to get across. I guess the after and before the jump poses shouldn't be entirely identical. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Submission "media-playback-start" concept 2
Oliver Scholtz wrote: > Sorry. I don't know if I had understand well ... *schame* > Both are thinking it's a good idea play with colours? > It's okay if I stay on course with this idea? The light blue > play-button, light red stop-button etc.??? > No colors. Only white with transparency. Play with shape and finish. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] cONTENT OF ubuntu-art Digest, Vol 44, Issue 18
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Tibault Damman wrote: > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 15:50, Thorsten Wilms wrote: > >> On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 14:27 +0100, Lukas Eigensatz wrote: >> > MY Background ! >> > >> > Lukas Eigensatz >> > >> > ... Lost of important stuff that I'm very happy about Lukas kept it >> > all in his mail ... >> >> >> Wow! Too bad we can't use an animted GIF of that ... or can we? > > > > The sad thing is that Vista has a wallpaper not much unlike this one, and > I've seen people use it. > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > Reminds me of the box of oil pastels I had, back in elementary school: http://www.goya.com.tr/12ring.htm It's more surprising to see that it didn't change a bit, after more than 25 years :) Emrah Ünal -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Submission "media-playback-start" concept 2
Am Montag, den 23.02.2009, 14:37 -0600 schrieb Jeremy JT. Taylor: > >I shoulda put this out there before but I think we should just stick > >with the status quo here. All white, semi-transparent images. It's the > >shape and finish I think we should play with. > >-Cory K. > > > I agree, if we begin to play with colors for something used often in > very generic positions we will begin to have issues getting colors to > mesh well with the various themes. > > Jeremy Taylor > > Sorry. I don't know if I had understand well ... *schame* Both are thinking it's a good idea play with colours? It's okay if I stay on course with this idea? The light blue play-button, light red stop-button etc.??? Sincerly Oliver Scholtz -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
Oliver Scholtz wrote: > Am Montag, den 23.02.2009, 15:20 -0500 schrieb Cory K.: > >> Ryan Prior wrote: >> >>> I'm starting tot think this is a case where pixel art >>> should really be sought rather than vector art. All the tiny "start" icons >>> I'm seeing remind me of the limitations of vector art as the size of final >>> icon shrinks, so if you can either touch-up or completely compose a "start >>> here" icon in a by-pixel fashion, I suspect that would produce the best >>> result for us in the end. >>> >> This is why all the Breathe icons are drawn at the size they are >> intended to be used at. :) So a "tiny" bitmap will be the same as a >> "tiny" SVG when they're both drawn at the same size. >> >> Sebastien's current start images are just tests. >> > > I use Kubuntu and my start-here-Logo is usual 48x48 ;) > > @ Cory K.: > I tried your PPA and seems that the power-options-icons in 48x48 looks > quite bad on my Desktop. I use the power-switcher-Plamaoid on the > Desktop ;) Think this should be fixed ... > For be more detailed, I am talking about the metal ring. Screenshot > attached (test2.png) ;) > test3.png without this ring is better in my opinion. > Check it out ... :) > > Sincerly Oliver Scholtz > Attach a screenshot but honestly I really don't care much for how it works on Kubuntu ATM as this is a set for GNOME. So that's where our focus will be. :) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
Am Montag, den 23.02.2009, 15:20 -0500 schrieb Cory K.: > Ryan Prior wrote: > > I'm starting tot think this is a case where pixel art > > should really be sought rather than vector art. All the tiny "start" icons > > I'm seeing remind me of the limitations of vector art as the size of final > > icon shrinks, so if you can either touch-up or completely compose a "start > > here" icon in a by-pixel fashion, I suspect that would produce the best > > result for us in the end. > > > This is why all the Breathe icons are drawn at the size they are > intended to be used at. :) So a "tiny" bitmap will be the same as a > "tiny" SVG when they're both drawn at the same size. > > Sebastien's current start images are just tests. > > > -Cory K. > I use Kubuntu and my start-here-Logo is usual 48x48 ;) @ Cory K.: I tried your PPA and seems that the power-options-icons in 48x48 looks quite bad on my Desktop. I use the power-switcher-Plamaoid on the Desktop ;) Think this should be fixed ... For be more detailed, I am talking about the metal ring. Screenshot attached (test2.png) ;) test3.png without this ring is better in my opinion. Check it out ... :) Sincerly Oliver Scholtz <><>-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Submission "media-playback-start" concept 2
>I shoulda put this out there before but I think we should just stick >with the status quo here. All white, semi-transparent images. It's the >shape and finish I think we should play with. >-Cory K. I agree, if we begin to play with colors for something used often in very generic positions we will begin to have issues getting colors to mesh well with the various themes. Jeremy Taylor -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Submission "media-playback-start" concept 2
Oliver Scholtz wrote: > Concept 2 for "media-playback-start" submitted. > > I thought Play is light blue throwing to lila. Stop is a light red ... > Pause a light green etc. etc. > Should have some glass-effects ... ;) > I shoulda put this out there before but I think we should just stick with the status quo here. All white, semi-transparent images. It's the shape and finish I think we should play with. I'll let some others chime in. See what Sebastien thinks. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe]Submission "media-playback-start" concept 2
Concept 2 for "media-playback-start" submitted. I thought Play is light blue throwing to lila. Stop is a light red ... Pause a light green etc. etc. Should have some glass-effects ... ;) If not okay ... I can try Concept 3! Already I don't know what "3" will be ... :D Sincerly Oliver Scholtz -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
Ryan Prior wrote: > I'm starting tot think this is a case where pixel art > should really be sought rather than vector art. All the tiny "start" icons > I'm seeing remind me of the limitations of vector art as the size of final > icon shrinks, so if you can either touch-up or completely compose a "start > here" icon in a by-pixel fashion, I suspect that would produce the best > result for us in the end. This is why all the Breathe icons are drawn at the size they are intended to be used at. :) So a "tiny" bitmap will be the same as a "tiny" SVG when they're both drawn at the same size. Sebastien's current start images are just tests. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Anton Kerezov wrote: > > > > > *From:* ubuntu-art-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto: > ubuntu-art-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] *On Behalf Of *spg76 > *Sent:* Monday, February 23, 2009 9:17 PM > *To:* Discussion on Ubuntu artwork > *Subject:* Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button > > > > @Anton, I thought about that. I'm gonna try it on a next version. > > > @Cory, I think what Anton means it's that I should decide how my design > should look like :) > > > > Exactly! J Sebastian is the only person that should decide on what has to > be included or not. Sorry for my English, it was a hard day today and I'm > tired so I make mistakes. > > > > I made a new version of the orange/black start-here. You can see it at > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/start-here3.png > > > > I like that orange version too but is it possible to use sizes larger than > 24px for the length? If yes you could try to extend a bit the right side of > the orange bg and thus make the logo in the center. > This is a tricky issue. Of course, the "logo" is in the center, but the eye tends to be attracted to the center of the circle, not the center of the logo. I'd suggest extending the right side, like Anton says, in order to balance the amount of orange space on the left side with some on the right. Aside from that, I'm starting tot think this is a case where pixel art should really be sought rather than vector art. All the tiny "start" icons I'm seeing remind me of the limitations of vector art as the size of final icon shrinks, so if you can either touch-up or completely compose a "start here" icon in a by-pixel fashion, I suspect that would produce the best result for us in the end. > > > > > Anton > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
From: ubuntu-art-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-art-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of spg76 Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 9:17 PM To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button @Anton, I thought about that. I'm gonna try it on a next version. @Cory, I think what Anton means it's that I should decide how my design should look like :) Exactly! J Sebastian is the only person that should decide on what has to be included or not. Sorry for my English, it was a hard day today and I'm tired so I make mistakes. I made a new version of the orange/black start-here. You can see it at http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/start-here3.png I like that orange version too but is it possible to use sizes larger than 24px for the length? If yes you could try to extend a bit the right side of the orange bg and thus make the logo in the center. Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
spg76 wrote: > @Cory, I think what Anton means it's that I should decide how my design > should look like :) > OK. With the bad quoting, it was real hard to tell. > I made a new version of the orange/black start-here. You can see it at > http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/start-here3.png > At this point, I'd really go with whatever you give me. :) It's up to you. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
@Anton, I thought about that. I'm gonna try it on a next version. @Cory, I think what Anton means it's that I should decide how my design should look like :) I made a new version of the orange/black start-here. You can see it at http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/start-here3.png -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
Anton Kerezov wrote: > spg 76 wrote: >> I made a "Start Here" logo based on Anton's idea. >> You can see it at http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/start-here2.png >> > > > But I think you should be the last person that decides what the start button > logo should look like. Uh... Why is that? Sebastien is the only one actually doing any worthwhile work on the set. The people who contribute to the set will decide it's future. I hope you just quoted something out of order. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
From: ubuntu-art-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-art-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of spg76 Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:33 PM To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button I made a "Start Here" logo based on Anton's idea. You can see it at http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/start-here2.png That looks good but it will be even better if you use the gray of dust's panel bg for the outline. This way it will not be visible in dark themes and will be not that distracting in white themes. But I think you should be the last person that decides what the start button logo should look like. Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Top-posting gmail users
2009/2/23 Cory K. : > Odysseus Flappington wrote: >> Also, here's a question.. >> >> What's so bad about top-posting? > > Googling will show you the best info on this. Also, when you subscribe > to this list it gives you links on this subject. > > > -Cory K. > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > I'm pretty sure I didn't see anything when I subscribed to the list. There is definitely nothing on https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art, and definitely nothing in the 'Welcome to the "ubuntu-art" mailing list' email I received when I subscribed. Even if I'm wrong and the information is actually there, I can't really concede it was clear and obvious. Perhaps it's worth re-visiting the guidelines issue so that you don't have to put yourself out by telling people to RTFM constantly. Alex -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Remove subject tag and footer. Pros/cons
2009/2/23 Ryan Prior : > I didn't know you were a gmail user. For gmail users, tags are shown > graphically (you can even choose colors) so you can create a filter that > adds an "ubuntu art" tag to everything that matches to:ubuntu-art. > I have a filter too, ignore me, I'm just used to [mailinglist], I'll retune myself to looking at the filter (which is already setup). I'm really a spectator on this list so don't worry too much. Top posting and not trimming previous messages though.. that _is_ annoying :) Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Remove subject tag and footer. Pros/cons
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Jonathan Motes wrote: > I think the [ubuntu-art] subject tag is very important. In Gmail, I search > for ubuntu-art when I need to label and archive emails from the list. > you could search from:(ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com) OR to:(ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com) and that will work just as well, Or you could automagically label all emails sent to ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com and then you get a label down the side of your window to click on to read just the art list and can search for the label And it looks pretty, cos you can have colours. We are an art list, afterall ;) -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Remove subject tag and footer. Pros/cons
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/2/23 Ryan Prior : > > If the decision is made (as I hope it will be) to remove the tag, I will > be > > happy to write you a Python script that filters your mail for > to:ubuntu-art > > and adds an "[ubuntu-art]" tag to the subject line. > > > > What? Against my gmail inbox? I didn't know you were a gmail user. For gmail users, tags are shown graphically (you can even choose colors) so you can create a filter that adds an "ubuntu art" tag to everything that matches to:ubuntu-art. A problem presents itself with people like yourself who follow 150 mailing lists: it takes a lot of time to create 150 tag-filter combos. I see two solutions to this: first, gin up an RFC to add a "tag" field to email headers which can be used to visually tag emails in clients. (Seriously, this is way overdue.) Second, update the listserv software to allow users such as myself who do set up tag filters for mailing lists to opt-out of the additional tag munged into the subject line. Cheers, Ryan > > > Cheers, > Al. > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Impression Metacity Updates
:) Not importing the style and format of email and answering them ... it's OT and not the world. LOL What about the idea for the metacity-stuff? I like it, because it's looks like this - "U" b "U" nt "U" - and isn't square like Windows and round like Mac :) I attach the sketches agian ;) Sincerly Oliver Scholtz <><>-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Remove subject tag and footer. Pros/cons
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/2/23 Cory K. :
>> As some people use the subject tag for filtering it should be discussed.
>> You can always use the sender as a filter here.
>>
>> So pros/cons on both?
>>
>
> I like the subject tag because whilst I don't electronically filter on
> it, I do filter on it with my eyes. I'm on around 150 mailing lists
> and being able to scan down the inbox and see the tag helps me to
> decide which ones to read first.
>
For a similar reason I _don't_ like the subject tag.
I like to filter my list subscriptions into gmail 'labels' - which
gives me a colour coded way of spotting what I need(?) to see first,
and also a good way of catching up on all of the mails from one
particular list quickly.
Doing it like this means I get {Ubuntu-Art}[ubuntu-art]Subject
And when we add tags to emails it gets even worse!
{Ubuntu-Art}[ubuntu-art][blubuntu]Subject
Which saddens me :P - I don't get to see all of the subject quite often
Al, in your situation isn't there a way to make your mail client add
some tag to the subject? Also - from the other free software mailing
lists I'm on, tagging seems like quite rare behaviour? Do you have a
system for those other lists that don't tag that works?
I'd be very happy with a shorter tag [ua], for example, would solve my problem.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Remove subject tag and footer. Pros/cons
I think the [ubuntu-art] subject tag is very important. In Gmail, I search for ubuntu-art when I need to label and archive emails from the list. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/2/23 Cory K. : > > As some people use the subject tag for filtering it should be discussed. > > You can always use the sender as a filter here. > > > > So pros/cons on both? > > > > I like the subject tag because whilst I don't electronically filter on > it, I do filter on it with my eyes. I'm on around 150 mailing lists > and being able to scan down the inbox and see the tag helps me to > decide which ones to read first. > > Cheers, > Al. > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Remove subject tag and footer. Pros/cons
2009/2/23 Ryan Prior : > If the decision is made (as I hope it will be) to remove the tag, I will be > happy to write you a Python script that filters your mail for to:ubuntu-art > and adds an "[ubuntu-art]" tag to the subject line. > What? Against my gmail inbox? Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Remove subject tag and footer. Pros/cons
Hello Alan, If the decision is made (as I hope it will be) to remove the tag, I will be happy to write you a Python script that filters your mail for to:ubuntu-art and adds an "[ubuntu-art]" tag to the subject line. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/2/23 Cory K. : > > As some people use the subject tag for filtering it should be discussed. > > You can always use the sender as a filter here. > > > > So pros/cons on both? > > > > I like the subject tag because whilst I don't electronically filter on > it, I do filter on it with my eyes. I'm on around 150 mailing lists > and being able to scan down the inbox and see the tag helps me to > decide which ones to read first. > > Cheers, > Al. > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Remove subject tag and footer. Pros/cons
Oops, sorry for the top-post. I seem to always forget :( -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Top-posting gmail users
Odysseus Flappington wrote: > Also, here's a question.. > > What's so bad about top-posting? Googling will show you the best info on this. Also, when you subscribe to this list it gives you links on this subject. -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Remove subject tag and footer. Pros/cons
2009/2/23 Cory K. : > As some people use the subject tag for filtering it should be discussed. > You can always use the sender as a filter here. > > So pros/cons on both? > I like the subject tag because whilst I don't electronically filter on it, I do filter on it with my eyes. I'm on around 150 mailing lists and being able to scan down the inbox and see the tag helps me to decide which ones to read first. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Top-posting gmail users
2009/2/23 Ryan Prior : > > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Cory K. wrote: >> >> Joseph wrote: >> > Also can someone tell me how not to top post whatever that means, since >> > I >> > think i got screamed at for that before. >> >> You pretty much just move your cursor from where it starts to the bottom >> of the page. >> >> Worked that way last time I use gmail through the web anyway. I use >> Thunderbird now. I'm sure pretty regular web-gmail users could chime in. >> >> There should also be a way to remove the footer the list adds. (I wonder >> if we shouldn't just turn that off altogether?) > > I do think that we should turn the footer off. Furthermore, I think we > should get rid of the [ubuntu-art] tag appended to the front of the emails > and stop munging the reply-to header. > > http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html > >> >> >> -Cory K. >> >> -- >> ubuntu-art mailing list >> ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > Also, here's a question.. What's so bad about top-posting? I'm on gmail, and gmail can view both types of replies.. Occasionally you need to pay more attention to figure out whether the response is above or below when looking through old replies.. but it's not the end of the world. Alex -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Remove subject tag and footer. Pros/cons
Ryan Prior wrote: > I do think that we should turn the footer off. Furthermore, I think we > should get rid of the [ubuntu-art] tag appended to the front of the emails > and stop munging the reply-to header. > > http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html > As some people use the subject tag for filtering it should be discussed. You can always use the sender as a filter here. So pros/cons on both? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Background resolutions and a template
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 15:07 +0100, Kenneth Wimer wrote: > Seeing as we have this page: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/WallpaperRules > I think it should go somewhere in the Documentation. Perhaps you could > render > some pngs (with some example background) to explain the concept for > those new > to it? Done, except for example images: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/WallpaperRules I took the liberty to drop the overly long text with the meaningless section numbers i found there. If anyone wants to compare to see if anything should be added back: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/WallpaperRules?action=recall&rev=9 -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Top-posting gmail users
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Cory K. wrote: > Joseph wrote: > > Also can someone tell me how not to top post whatever that means, since I > > think i got screamed at for that before. > > You pretty much just move your cursor from where it starts to the bottom > of the page. > > Worked that way last time I use gmail through the web anyway. I use > Thunderbird now. I'm sure pretty regular web-gmail users could chime in. > > There should also be a way to remove the footer the list adds. (I wonder > if we shouldn't just turn that off altogether?) I do think that we should turn the footer off. Furthermore, I think we should get rid of the [ubuntu-art] tag appended to the front of the emails and stop munging the reply-to header. http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html > > > > -Cory K. > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Top-posting gmail users
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Cory K. wrote: > Joseph wrote: >> Also can someone tell me how not to top post whatever that means, since I >> think i got screamed at for that before. > > You pretty much just move your cursor from where it starts to the bottom > of the page. > > Worked that way last time I use gmail through the web anyway. I use > Thunderbird now. I'm sure pretty regular web-gmail users could chime in. > > There should also be a way to remove the footer the list adds. (I wonder > if we shouldn't just turn that off altogether?) > > > -Cory K. > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > Just delete the top two lines above the gmail quote and use the "ctrl" "end" key combo. That will make it so you don't top post anymore. Smartboy -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Top-posting gmail users
Joseph wrote: > Also can someone tell me how not to top post whatever that means, since I > think i got screamed at for that before. You pretty much just move your cursor from where it starts to the bottom of the page. Worked that way last time I use gmail through the web anyway. I use Thunderbird now. I'm sure pretty regular web-gmail users could chime in. There should also be a way to remove the footer the list adds. (I wonder if we shouldn't just turn that off altogether?) -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Impression Metacity Updates
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Joseph wrote: > Hey guys, > > Here is a quick, if amateur start button sketch. > Also can someone tell me how not to top post whatever that means, since I > think i got screamed at for that before. > > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:34 AM, Oliver Scholtz wrote: > >> "UbUntU" ---> second idea attached ;) >> >> PD: This kind of buttons I haven't see anywhere ... :D Hope it can be >> useful, too ;) >> >> Sincerly Oliver >> >> -- >> ubuntu-art mailing list >> ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art >> >> > > -- > ubuntu-art mailing list > ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art > > I believe you posted that in the wrong thread. More on topic, though: Here's a screenshot of an emerald theme I designed a while back for my GTK theme. It just uses characters _ < and X in the Analecta font (available in the Ubuntu package ttf-ancient, iirc). http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4263/laptopthemedl9.png People told me I should redo it using vectors, but I'm not very good with InkScape. Anyway, it's really just another concept I'm tossing out there. I don't really know if it can be made to fit with the Ubuntu look, but I figured it was worth mentioning. If anyone wants the theme to look at or something here it is... http://cookieofdoom.com/downloads/themes/newtheme.tar.gz -- David Mikucki -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Background resolutions and a template
On Monday 23 February 2009 14:26:53 Thorsten Wilms wrote: > Hi! > > I looked through a PC hardware shop to get an idea of currently offered > screen resolutions and compiled the following list: > > Monitors > > 2560 x 1600 1.6 8:5 > 1920 x 1200 1.6 8:5 > 2048 x 1152 1.77 16:9 > 1920 x 1200 1.6 8:5 > 1920 x 1080 1.77 16:9 > 1680 x 1050 1.6 8:5 > 1600 x 1200 1.33 4:3 > 1440 x 900 1.6 8:5 > 1280 x 1024 1.25 5:4 > 1024 x 768 1.33 4:3 > > > Laptops > > 1920 x 1200 1.6 8:5 > 1920 x 1080 1.77 16:9 > 1680 x 1050 1.6 8:5 > 1680 x 945 1.77 16:9 > 1440 x 900 1.6 8:5 > 1366 x 768 1.77 16:9 > 1280 x 800 1.6 8:5 > 1024 x 576 1.77 16:9 > > Width x Height Factor Aspect-Ratio > > 8:5 is often given as 16:10 ... > > > Attached you will find an SVG template based on the largest commonly > offered resolution of 2560 x 1600, with frame layers to show the extents > of other aspect ratios, simulating the effect of the background zoom > setting. > > To Kenneth: Would you like to see this on the wiki? If so, where > exactly? Yes! Seeing as we have this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/WallpaperRules I think it should go somewhere in the Documentation. Perhaps you could render some pngs (with some example background) to explain the concept for those new to it? -- Ken -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
I made a "Start Here" logo based on Anton's idea. You can see it at http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/start-here2.png 2009/2/23 Thorsten Wilms > Sorry for saying this so late, but by default, you have the menu where > the logo belongs to "Applications", right? For this reason I think > turning the logo into a button is problematic, as it doesn't have its > own target area. > > That said, your take on it looks sharper and actually more recognisable > than the Human icon. > > > -- > Thorsten Wilms > > thorwil's design for free software: > http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ > I see what you mean. I'll try to make more a logo than a button on a next version. -- Seba (AKA spg76) http://www.ubuntu-ar.org -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
[ubuntu-art] Background resolutions and a template
Hi! I looked through a PC hardware shop to get an idea of currently offered screen resolutions and compiled the following list: Monitors 2560 x 1600 1.6 8:5 1920 x 1200 1.6 8:5 2048 x 1152 1.77 16:9 1920 x 1200 1.6 8:5 1920 x 1080 1.77 16:9 1680 x 1050 1.6 8:5 1600 x 1200 1.33 4:3 1440 x 900 1.6 8:5 1280 x 1024 1.25 5:4 1024 x 768 1.33 4:3 Laptops 1920 x 1200 1.6 8:5 1920 x 1080 1.77 16:9 1680 x 1050 1.6 8:5 1680 x 945 1.77 16:9 1440 x 900 1.6 8:5 1366 x 768 1.77 16:9 1280 x 800 1.6 8:5 1024 x 576 1.77 16:9 Width x Height Factor Aspect-Ratio 8:5 is often given as 16:10 ... Attached you will find an SVG template based on the largest commonly offered resolution of 2560 x 1600, with frame layers to show the extents of other aspect ratios, simulating the effect of the background zoom setting. To Kenneth: Would you like to see this on the wiki? If so, where exactly? -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ <>-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Impression Metacity Updates
"UbUntU" ---> second idea attached ;) PD: This kind of buttons I haven't see anywhere ... :D Hope it can be useful, too ;) Sincerly Oliver <>-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] Impression Metacity Updates
Am Montag, den 23.02.2009, 15:47 +1300 schrieb tonic: > > 2009/2/23 Cory K. > John Baer wrote: > > I believe I understand your desire but for some reason I am > having > > trouble making it work. :( > > > > Realizing the round buttons do resemble OSX my question is; > are rounded > > button bad given the design elements of the Ubuntu logo? > > > > I noticed the highest rated theme at gnome-look.org use > rounded buttons. > > > > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Aurora > +Smooth?content=80431 > > > > The highest downloaded theme is very OSX. > > > > http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/MacOS-X+Aqua > > +Theme?content=13548 > > > > The evidence seems to supports the fact rounded buttons are > the desire. > > > > Having said that, if any of the "Breathe" folks (or anyone > else) have an > > icon they would like to submit I would greatly appreciate > the help. :) > > > > Remember it needs to display @ 13x13px resolution. > > > There are *many* things that are popular but aren't really a > good idea. > > Generally, I think the folks here would like to see something > different. > Something that /could/ be defined as Ubuntu. > > I think there are a lot of options for window controls. Off the top of > my head, there is no need to stick to the button idea, a look like > touch sensitive surfaces could work well. Integration is an issue, > many themes I have seen seem to just tack on buttons without much care > for the overall aesthetic. Simple, smooth animations would be good too > but Metacity doesn't do that as it goes against the design philosophy. > > > Tonic A piece from the thematic "Metacity Impression" ... I don't dislike this Metacity at moment, but it would be a general laugh about our poor imagination and copy stuffs from other systems. Somebody wrote something about KDE-buttons ... I dislike them much! ;) Here I send you a sketch how to fusion circle and quadrants with the effect you can read "UbuNtU"!!! on it :D Hope it can be useful ... :) Sincerly Oliver Scholtz <>-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] start-here button
Hello, I made a PNG of the idea I had, unfortunately i can't make anything near that with Inkscape, so i'm just gonna leave it here incase someone wants to do it. Here's the pic : http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6162/logoubuntu.png And the PSD (cs3) : http://www.flyupload.com/?fid=577394785 Sorry again for not using the gimp / inkscape :) _ Découvrez toutes les possibilités de communication avec vos proches http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/default.aspx-- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 23:44 -0200, spg76 wrote: > I made a "Start Here" button. I only did the 22/24px to see how it > look. > I still have to refine it a little but you can see how it look with > different themes at http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/start-here.png Sorry for saying this so late, but by default, you have the menu where the logo belongs to "Applications", right? For this reason I think turning the logo into a button is problematic, as it doesn't have its own target area. That said, your take on it looks sharper and actually more recognisable than the Human icon. -- Thorsten Wilms thorwil's design for free software: http://thorwil.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button
From: ubuntu-art-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-art-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of spg76 Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 3:44 AM To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] "Start here" button I made a "Start Here" button. I only did the 22/24px to see how it look. I still have to refine it a little but you can see how it look with different themes at http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/113489/start-here.png This looks ok but when a I saw it I had an idea - pure white Ubuntu logo with black outline for dark themes would look very good (though some ppl will say it's a mac thing) and in white ones could still be visible. Making such a logo is very difficult as you don't know where the button will be (top/bottom of the window) and you cannot make specific versions of it. Also you don't have control of where that dropdown arrow appears. Anton -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art
