Re: [ubuntu-art] Crunch Time

2010-08-25 Thread Andrew SB
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 9:09 PM, j_baer  wrote:
>
> We are fast approaching the time when community themes need to be in their
> final form. I plan to test next week against a fresh Maverick install and
> report my findings.
>
> I'm not sure what version of Murrine will make the cut but I am assuming the
> "Murrine Daily Build" will be the source. I had some trouble installing this
> version in Maverick today.

The current version in Maverick is 0.90.3+git20100810-0ubuntu1

>
> I also notice some folks posted themes in the "Ubuntu Artist" area of
> deviantART. I will drop them a note to see if they have some interest in
> Community Themes as there was a lot of process change this release and there
> may be some confusion. :)
>

Most of the submissions on the wiki are actually tweaks to the default
light-themes. I don't think they are really appropriate for the
community-themes package. As we've already past feature freeze and
beta/UI freeze is tomorrow, I'm not sure if we're going to see any
real changes to the package this time around. We can still continue
pushing fixes to the current themes though.

The lack of submissions is most likely due to the fact that we didn't
really promote the process this cycle. But there is also the fact that
people seem to generally be much more satisfied by the new default
themes. This team/list has also just been very quiet this cycle.

Rather than rushing to just put something new into the
community-themes package, I think that we might better use this time
to start brainstorming for the upcoming Natty cycle. Perhaps Natty
would be a good time to really shake things up, dropping themes that
haven't continued to evolve and trying to generate more excitement
with some completely new content.

Thoughts?

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[ubuntu-art] Fwd: [Ayatana] Maverick Movies!

2010-08-20 Thread Andrew SB
Might be of interest here as well.

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Subject: [Ayatana] Maverick Movies!
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Hi folks

I saw this amazing movie from the Ubuntu Ads guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHzP7mxRFJE and was inspired to blog
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/489 about
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMovies

Shout if you are interested in helping host the process or participating.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Anybody knows actual font name in Lucid Lynx Ubuntu logo?

2010-04-29 Thread Andrew SB
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Alexander Dushko
 wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Anybody knows actual font name in Lucid Lynx Ubuntu logo?
> If such exists, of course.
>

My understanding is that the logo was created first, and that the rest
of the font is still under development. Once it is complete, it will
supposedly be available under an open licence...

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Cleaning up Community Themes

2010-04-07 Thread Andrew SB
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Andrew SB  wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Kenneth Wimer  wrote:
>> On Wednesday 07 April 2010 02:13:53 pm j_baer wrote:
>>> Andrew,

>>> I know I updated the Impression series to bring it into alignment with
>>> default and others may have uploaded "last minute" tweaks as well.

>> This should definitely be updated as it contains a fix for the button order
>> changes in Impression.
>
> Doing an upload containing these changes is on my to-do list for tonight.

Hey,

I just got a chance to review the changes. It sets the icon theme as
Humanity for Impression. Are you sure that is what is intended?
Previously, it had been using Humanity-Dark. Night-Impression still
does as well. As Impression has a black panel, I would think that
Humanity-Dark would be the better choice.

Let me know...

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Cleaning up Community Themes

2010-04-07 Thread Andrew SB
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Kenneth Wimer  wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 April 2010 02:13:53 pm j_baer wrote:
>> Andrew,
>>
>> I would like to update the Community Themes wiki page to reflect the
>> contents of this package. I am assuming there will be one last push (v.23)
>> between now and RC. :)
>>
>> I know I updated the Impression series to bring it into alignment with
>> default and others may have uploaded "last minute" tweaks as well.
>>
>> My thought is the wiki page should inform those who have an interest in
>> installing this package what each theme looks like with appropriate
>>  comments describing its features.

Cleaning up the wiki is a great idea. Let me know if there is anyway I
can help.

>> Is v.22 the final list of themes for this package?

No more new themes will be added or old ones dropped at this point in
the cycle. So v22 is indeed the final list of themes for Lucid.

> This should definitely be updated as it contains a fix for the button order
> changes in Impression.

Doing an upload containing these changes is on my to-do list for tonight.

Thanks1

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Themes

2010-03-24 Thread Andrew SB
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:47 PM, j_baer  wrote:
>
> Andrew,
>
> I made a minor tweak to the Impression GTK themes. Please update the
> community themes package if it isn't already on its way.

Uploaded...

Thanks!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Impression / Night Impression Final

2010-03-09 Thread Andrew SB
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:08 AM, James Schriver  wrote:
> On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 07:21 -0500, John Baer wrote:
>> Andrew,
>>
>> I realize the timing is late but I made final adjustments to the
>> Impression / Night Impression metacity theme to accommodate the change
>> in button order. The new tar files (90-3) are loaded to the wiki.
>>
>> I am hoping an updated community-themes package can be added before
>> release.

Of course. Up until Final Freeze un-seeded packages can continue to
receive bug fix up-dates without any special approval. So if you have
any other final tweaks, let me know...

>
> Changes were added to the community-themes package awaiting merge
> approval from Andrew.  Nice work.

Thanks James! I've merged the branch, and I'll make an upload to Lucid
soon. Do you have any more changes for your themes that we can bundle
in the same upload, or should I just go ahead and do it?

Thanks!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Missing icon in breathe-icon-theme

2010-03-09 Thread Andrew SB
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
 wrote:
> Hi
>
> Are there any breathe-icon theme developers on this list? (I guess there
> should be since it's marked as the contact for the theme[1])
>
> The volume icon is currently unavailable, is anyone working on it? I
> couldn't find a bug on launchpad. If no one else is working on it I'll
> look into it, just wanted to check with the list first.

This is in fact a problem with indicator-sound. It currently breaks
all icon themes except Human-Mono and Humanity by using GtkImage
instead of GtkIcon so it doesn't fall back appropriately. See:

https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/525295

Though if some one wants to work around this in Breathe, I'd be happy
to commit it to the theme and push an update to Lucid.

- Andre SB

> -Jonathan
>
> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Themes Too Hard To Find

2010-03-09 Thread Andrew SB
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:20 PM, John Baer  wrote:
> I am willing to create a screen shot or other required artwork.

I forgot to add that screenshots in software-center come from
http://screenshots.debian.net/

Even though it is it is on debian.net, you can add screenshots for
packages, like community-themes, that are only in Ubuntu. As themes
didn't show up in software-center in the past, most theme packages
don't have screenshots yet. Anyone can upload screenshots.

Guidelines for taking screenshots (from: http://screenshots.debian.net/upload):

Screenshots are published under the terms of the packaged software itself.
Your screenshots must be in PNG format.
Due to legal reasons screenshots for non-free packages aren't accecpted.
Images larger than 800x600 pixels will automatically be reduced to
that size (retaining the aspect ratio of course). So if you like to
control the exact result of what you upload then make sure your image
size is no larger than that.
Your screenshot should contain a typical scene when working with it.
When snapshotting a browser load the debian.org home page. A
screenshot of a graphics program should have a drawing loaded. Of a
game please make a screenshot while you are playing and not of the
start screen.
Nice tools for taking screenshots are shutter, ksnapshot (KDE), gimp,
xwd or scrot.
You need not artificially switch off your window decorations.
Please set your language to english so that everybody understands it.
If you don't use english by default please start your application from
a shell using after setting "export LANG=C".
Please only take a screenshot of the respective application and not of
your whole desktop (unless the screenshot is meant for a window
manager).
Interlaced PNG files cannot be processed currently. Please use
non-interlaced images.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Themes Too Hard To Find

2010-03-03 Thread Andrew SB
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:20 PM, John Baer  wrote:
> As I installed community themes and I found the only way to locate the
> package was through Syntapic search.
>
> As Software Center becomes the desired software installation tool is
> there a way to add this package?
>

In Karmic software-center only presented GUI applications (with a few
special exceptions). This is no longer the case in Lucid. Searching
for "community themes" in software-center will now show the desired
package. Though if you just search for themes, it is buried deeply and
applications are still featured more prominently.

See this blueprint for reference:
https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-lucid-non-applications-in-software-center

I'm not sure how we can make it more findable. One idea would be to
ask the desktop-team to consider placing it in the featured section.
Although, the current criteria states that featured packages should be
applications. You might want to send an email asking about this to the
desktop list.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Wasp community theme

2010-03-02 Thread Andrew SB
On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 5:56 AM, Lorem Ipsum  wrote:
> Dear Ubuntu Artwork Team,
>
> I'm glad that you have put my theme (Wasp) in "community-themes" package 
> but...
>
> Wasp is not a normal theme, in the way you have packaged it Firefox
> doesn't work properly and OOo doesn't work at all.
> Both apps need a script to patch them.
>
> I don't know how to solve this in a .deb package and this is the
> primary reason i've not yet created a PPA for Wasp
>
> If you have any suggestion please let me know

Hi Lorem,

I added Wasp to the package as we are coming up on the user interface
deadline and wanted to make sure we included some new themes in the
package. I assumed that by including the theme on the wiki in
Artwork/Incoming/Lucid you were putting the theme up for inclusion.
Unfortunately, the sort of things done in your install script aren't
really some thing we can support in a distribution package. Though the
problems that Wasp encounters are pretty common for darker themes. New
Wave also has work arounds for some of these issues which we can't
provide, but can be grabbed on GNOME-Look.

I'm certainly willing to help you push any tweaks to the theme that
you'd like to see into Lucid to help cope with these issues. If you
feel that the user experience is so poor that it mis-characterizes
your theme, I can pull it from the package if you prefer that.

Let me know if there's any way that I can help.

Sorry!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Impression Metacity Updates

2010-01-17 Thread Andrew SB
On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 7:11 PM, John Baer  wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I re-built the Impression Metacity theme from the ground up using Sonar
> as a base.
>

Uploaded to Lucid.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Updated Kin Theme

2010-01-17 Thread Andrew SB
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Tonic Artos  wrote:
> Okay, so I put the updated version of Kin on the wiki and I am
> attaching it here.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Lucid/Kin
>
> I hope you like the updates I've made.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tonic
>

Uploaded to Lucid.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Need for an Ubuntu Art request wiki page

2010-01-09 Thread Andrew SB
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Vishnoo  wrote:
> There is no single place for someone to request
> Ubuntu-specific-artwork.[the person either has to get lucky on the irc
> or personally know an artist or unnecessarily subscribe to this mailing
> list]

Part of this problem could be helped by promoting the usage of the
"needs-artwork" bug tag.

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=needs-artwork

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Artwork Cleanup

2009-12-30 Thread Andrew SB
On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Andrew SB  wrote:
> == GDM Themes ==
>
> As a first step, I plan on removing old GDM themes from Lucid. Unless
> there are any serious objections, I will be filing removal requests
> for: ubuntu-gdm-themes, feisty-gdm-themes, edgy-gdm-themes, and
> gdm-themes. I will also upload versions of blubuntu-look, peace-look,
> and tropic-look removing their GDM themes. We'll probably also remove
> arc-colors from Lucid as well, moving the wallpapers to the
> shiki-colors package.

Removal request filed:

https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/501800

Speak now or forever hold your peace...

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Artwork Cleanup

2009-12-28 Thread Andrew SB
On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 8:22 PM, j_baer  wrote:
> I believe Ken would like artwork to be ready before the first beta on March
> 18th.

Beta 1 is releases on March 18th, but remember that the archive goes
into Beta Freeze on March 11th. See:

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule

I've been planning on writing about the community-themes package to
the list as well. I propose that we set User Interface Freeze, March
4th, as the deadline for the inclusion of any new themes in the
package. That way we can make sure that everything makes it into the
Beta 1 release.

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[ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Artwork Cleanup

2009-12-26 Thread Andrew SB
Hi all,

As Lucid is a Long Term Support release, I feel that this is a good
time to clean up some of the artwork releated packages in the archive.
A number of packages haven't been updated at all since Hardy,
esentially un-maintained. Some look and feel quite out-dated, and if
we are going to carry them for the life of the LTS, they're only going
to feel more so going forward.

A list of packages maintained by Ubuntu Artwork Team can be found here:

https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art/+related-projects

Bazzar branches for team maintained packages can be found here:

https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg

== GDM Themes ==

As a first step, I plan on removing old GDM themes from Lucid. Unless
there are any serious objections, I will be filing removal requests
for: ubuntu-gdm-themes, feisty-gdm-themes, edgy-gdm-themes, and
gdm-themes. I will also upload versions of blubuntu-look, peace-look,
and tropic-look removing their GDM themes. We'll probably also remove
arc-colors from Lucid as well, moving the wallpapers to the
shiki-colors package.

== Theme Packages ==

blubuntu-look
peace-look
tropic-look
industrialtango-theme
outdoors-theme
silicon-theme
resilience-theme
gray-theme

As I mentioned above, most of these packages haven't been updated in a
few releases. In fact, it seems as if blubuntu-look isn't even
currently installable. I'd like to drive some discussion on these
themes. Which themes could just use a bit of an up-date? Which themes
should just we remove?

One thought I had was perhaps we should just new find themes that have
the same feel but an updated look, providing an upgrade path. It might
be simpler than actually updating the old themes. Any contenders?

Any other ideas? Comments?

Thanks,

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Presentation Template

2009-11-15 Thread Andrew SB
On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Nathan Handler  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I recently had an idea for a new art-related project. We have members of the
> community giving presentations all of the time (at LoCo events, conferences,
> etc). Currently, there is no Ubuntu presentation template that these users can
> use. Debian has discussed this idea at DebConf in the past [1], and they have
> created some great designs. I think it would be great if we could attempt to
> do something similar for Ubuntu. If we do this, I think we should focus on
> LaTeX Beamer and OpenOffice.org Impress, which appear to be the most popular
> methods of creating presentations on Ubuntu. I wanted to know if any members
> of the Art team would be interested in working on this project. I would be
> glad to help in any way possible, but I am definitely not creative or
> artistic enough to create a theme from scratch. I would also like to hear any
> other ideas/suggestions you might have about this project. I personally think
> that if we could come up with a decent template, it would greatly benefit the
> Ubuntu community.
>
> Thanks,
> Nathan Handler
>
> [1] http://people.debian.org/~tille/talks/200706_debconf7_beamer/index_en.html

As a starting point, there actually already is a collection of 30
pretty amazing OO Impress templates for Ubuntu (and derivatives) made
by a Nicaraguan LoCo member on SpreadUbuntu:

http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/th/material/presentation/ubuntu-impress-templates-vol1

They're really well done.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] On sound themes (and sound-theme-freedesktop)

2009-11-10 Thread Andrew SB
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 8:55 PM, Dylan McCall  wrote:
> Curious why Fedora manages to actually make some useful system sounds
> while Ubuntu continues to be oddly mute, I looked at the version number
> for sound-theme-freedesktop. It is (*gasp*) now at 0.7 upstream, while
> the one packaged in Ubuntu is 0.4. In fairness, it looks like 0.4 was
> released on August 23, with 0.5 tailing it on August 26. It just so
> happens that one tiny 3 day amendment alone would have made a huge
> difference.

I can't say any thing about the official sound theme, but I'm the one
who did the initial packaging for sound-theme-freedesktop in Ubuntu.
You need to remember that Feature Freeze for Karmic was  August 27th.
While things can get updated after FF, no one cared enough to file the
exception request. For that matter no one file a bug about the new
release either, and unfortunately upstream changed where it hosts the
tarball breaking the watch file. So I didn't even notice that there
had been a new release until just before the final release.

Getting 0.7 into Lucid is on my todo, but as I'm a bit busy right now
it's not very high. There's a 0.7 package about to enter Debian (it's
sitting in the new queue), that will need to get merged with our
current package. For some reason they rename the package
freedesktop-sound-theme, which is a bit annoying as it will need a
Conflicts/Replaces to upgrade properly, a delta we'll have to carry
for awhile, so no direct syncs. If anyone feels like trying their out
their packaging skills, I'd be happy to review/sponsor an upload.

> I grabbed the upstream version from git, installed it and was overjoyed
> by my desktop now making useful sounds from time to time (instead of
> just an obnoxious desktop-login noise). For example, the volume applet
> makes a cute little pop now when I adjust the volume. (Although, oddly,
> the keyboard-driven volume control via gnome-settings-daemon doesn't
> make that sound even though it did in Fedora. I guess that's a patch
> waiting for GNOME 2.30).
>
> However, the Ubuntu sound theme, which remains the default, is thus far
> very empty and doesn't inherit from the FreeDesktop one. I think this
> could be improved in a huge way!
>
> There are a lot of things which can be done here, and all the sounds
> (even the Freedesktop ones which I like) could use a bit of touching up.
> For example, many of them are just loud pops where something simpler and
> more relevant could fit and the button sounds don't sound anything like
> buttons. (Not that I use them anyway, but for those who wish to know
> when they click buttons I am sure more pleasant sounds would be
> appreciated). Oh, and I swear the instant messaging login and logout
> sounds are reminiscent of MSN Messenger, although I may be mistaken as I
> haven't used that in 5 years...
>
> Basically, I haven't seen much interest in the sound effects thing in
> Ubuntu, which is a shame because we now have a really good thing (the
> Freedesktop sound themes spec) to make them happen. I'm not proposing a
> desktop that doubles as a musical instrument, but this stuff allows
> aural notifications to be way more helpful and possibly less obtrusive
> as they produce less confusion for the end user.
>
> Perhaps this would be a good thing to have in mind for Lucid, now that
> the visual icons have been given so much love :)

Again, can't say anything about the default stuff, but if anyone wants
to work on a freedesktop compliant sound theme I'd help out on the
packaging end. I know there was a theme floating around that some one
in the community made (was it Mads maybe?), but it was right when
things switched to the new spec and no one made it compliant. It might
make a good starting point.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Night Impression Beta & Humnaity theme changes

2009-10-06 Thread Andrew SB
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:47 AM, j_baer  wrote:
>
>
>
> mac_v wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, 2009-10-03 at 16:04 -0400, Andrew SB wrote:
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:54 AM, mac_v  wrote:
>>> > On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 17:21 -0700, j_baer wrote:
>>> >> Hello everyone,
>>> >>
>>> >> In preparation for the Karmic Beta (10/1) I uploaded a new build
>>> (90926-1)
>>> >> of the Night Impression Theme to the wki. The main change is adopting
>>> the
>>> >> new Humanity icon theme.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> > Just a heads-up, Humanity theme will soon be available as two themes ,
>>> > "Humanity" and "Humanity-Dark" in the default install.
>>> >
>>> > Humanity works well with light panels and Humanity-Dark for Dark
>>> panels.
>>> > We have done this due to concerns of lack of contrast in the panel
>>> > icons.[Single shade didnt work well for both light and dark panels as
>>> we
>>> > had hoped]
>>> >
>>> > So , since Night Impression is using a dark Panel  , the
>>> "Humanity-Dark"
>>> > would be a better option. As "Humanity" panel icons will be darker and
>>> > be even less visible on a dark panel :)
>>> >
>>> > Since we are in beta freeze right now , this new icon theme will be
>>> > uploaded after beta release.
>>> >
>>> > Also, anyone using a dark panel might want to change their theme.
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We're out of Beta Freeze, and I'd like to make one final
>>> community-themes upload before we hit Final Freeze. This will include
>>> Night Impression build 90926-1 and Hanso 4.4. Do you have a time table
>>> for the Humanity changes so I can get all the correct inherits and
>>> Depends right for Night Impression? I'd really like to do this all in
>>> one upload.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> - Andrew
>>>
>>
>> The release team wanted to test it a bit more.
>> Last I heard it should be updated on Monday.
>>
>> --
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>> mac_v
>>
>
> mac_v,
>
> Do you have a status on the Humanity-Dark theme? I am ready with
> Night-Impression but I do not want to upload a new build to the wiki until I
> know the icon theme is ready.
>
> John

Looks like it was uploaded just a while ago

Publishing details

* Published 16 hours ago

Changelog

humanity-icon-theme (0.4.1-0ubuntu1) karmic; urgency=low

  * New upstream release
- Adds a Humanity-Dark theme and uses darker grey levels for Humanity;
  LP: #436485.
- Use greyscale icons for everything system related; LP: #430277.
- Update watch file to use "Humanity" instead of "humanity".
- Update description to mention Humanity-Dark.
- Update install file to install Humanity-Dark.
- Update icon-naming-utils calls to cover both themes.
- Adds monochrome icon for bluetooth; LP: #437162.
  * Cherry pick fixes from lp:humanity/Humanity{,-Dark}/index.th...@r393,
fixing various typos spotted during review with a script to generate the
index instead of updating it manually.
  * Cherry pick new greyscales icons for disabled bluetooth from
lp:Humanity{,-Dark}/status/24/bluetooth-disabled@r394; LP: #442867.
  * Cherry pick updates to zoom icons, copied from
lp:humanity/Humanity/actions/*/zoom-*@r395.

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[ubuntu-art] Announcing Breathe Icon Theme v0.51

2009-10-04 Thread Andrew SB
I'm pleased to announce, on behalf of the Ubuntu artwork community,
the release of Breathe Icon Theme v0.51!

This version brings some color corrections, making the palette more
consistent through out the theme and fixing the saturation levels for
the folder icons.

Packages designed to be dropped into GNOME appearance preferences can
be found here:

 * Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet#Releases

 * GNOME-Look: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=105873

 * Launchpad: https://edge.launchpad.net/breathe-icon-set/trunk/0.51

Ubuntu packages for Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty, and Karmic can be found
in the Breathe PPA.

 * PPA: https://edge.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/+archive/ppa

Barring any late found bugs, this will be the version that will ship
with Ubuntu 9.10. It is availiable in the official archives.

 - Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
 Breathe Release Manager
 Ubuntu Developer

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Night Impression Beta & Humnaity theme changes

2009-10-03 Thread Andrew SB
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:54 AM, mac_v  wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 17:21 -0700, j_baer wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> In preparation for the Karmic Beta (10/1) I uploaded a new build (90926-1)
>> of the Night Impression Theme to the wki. The main change is adopting the
>> new Humanity icon theme.
>>
>
> Hi,
> Just a heads-up, Humanity theme will soon be available as two themes ,
> "Humanity" and "Humanity-Dark" in the default install.
>
> Humanity works well with light panels and Humanity-Dark for Dark panels.
> We have done this due to concerns of lack of contrast in the panel
> icons.[Single shade didnt work well for both light and dark panels as we
> had hoped]
>
> So , since Night Impression is using a dark Panel  , the "Humanity-Dark"
> would be a better option. As "Humanity" panel icons will be darker and
> be even less visible on a dark panel :)
>
> Since we are in beta freeze right now , this new icon theme will be
> uploaded after beta release.
>
> Also, anyone using a dark panel might want to change their theme.

Hi,

We're out of Beta Freeze, and I'd like to make one final
community-themes upload before we hit Final Freeze. This will include
Night Impression build 90926-1 and Hanso 4.4. Do you have a time table
for the Humanity changes so I can get all the correct inherits and
Depends right for Night Impression? I'd really like to do this all in
one upload.

Thanks!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Checking In

2009-09-15 Thread Andrew SB
On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 9:03 PM, John Baer  wrote:
> Hello everyone ...
>
> For some reason :/ I haven't been getting many emails from this list of
> late. It may be a problem on my end but I thought I would mention it
> here.
>

It's been pretty quiet lately...

> I see from the road map we are quickly coming to the artwork deadline
> (9/24).
>
> I believe The Night Impression Gtk Theme is to the point I would call it
> beta. I saw a post back in August from Andrew about community themes and
> I certainly hope Night Impression will make the cut.
>
> IMO it would be nice for the community if the community theme package is
> built and included for the beta (10/1).
>
> John

I've been keeping up with "Artwork Drop" schedule so that we could
test things out before the dead line. So new themes have made it to
Karmic, though we still have time to make changes.

At the first drop I added Turrican, Hanso, and update Impression to
Build 90627-1

At the second drop I added Night Impression and updated Hanso.

Hanso uses Breathe so it is now a dependency of the community-themes
package. In the past we had discussed that included themes should use
Human for their icons, but as Breathe is a community project it seemed
appropriate to add as a dependency. If any of the other themes would
rather use Breathe rather than Human, let me know so I can make the
change.

Any feedback on these changes is appreciated. I don't want to be
making unilateral decisions, but as I received very little feedback I
pushed ahead. Are there any themes I overlooked? Anything included
that shouldn't have been? Found any bugs? I had floated the idea of
dropping Kin, but I got no response at all on that. So I've left it in
for now.

Thanks!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Tangerine Icon Theme Upstream Driver

2009-08-28 Thread Andrew SB
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Dmitrijs
Ledkovs wrote:
> Hello All
>
> I've just submitted a patch for tangerine-icon-theme package to fix 3 bugs.
>

As it is in main I can't sponsor the fixes, but I've subscribed the
appropriate team.

> I did a -3ubuntu1 version. But it seems a bit odd, cause I thought it
> was an Ubuntu driven theme.
>
> Who is driver / maintainer of upstream launchpad.net/tangerine-icon theme?

The situation seems a bit odd. As far as I know, Canonical's art team
is indeed the upstream maintainer. Ubuntu's packaging though seems to
have been scraped in favor of syncing the Debian package maintained by
the Debian GNOME Maintainers.

>
> Who has access to change driver / maintainer?
>

The "upstream" tangerine-icon-theme project is owned by the
ubuntu-art-pkg. This team is in itself a bit of an odd creature that
might need to be reconsidered. Except for C.Kontros, I believe all of
its members are Canonical employees or not active in Ubuntu
development anymore (perhaps former employees?).  Kenneth Wimer seems
to be its administrator. Except for Ken, none of the members actually
seem to be active in the team. Though Daniel Holbach has merged my
personal community-themes branch in a few times for me.

A lot of the branches owned by the team seem to be unmaintained cruft.
Even tangerine-icon-theme which is still commonly used, hasn't seen a
commit since 2007-09-18. Except for the default artwork, the only
active project owned by the team seems to be community-themes which no
one from the team seems involved with. As of my upload of the other
day, community-themes in Ubuntu isn't actually in sync with that
branch anyways...

Perhaps it's time for a reorganization? Maybe move things like
tangerine-icon-theme and community-themes to a place where they can
more easily receive community contributions and move the default stuff
under the umbrella of the UX team or desktop team?

> Does anyone wants to actively maintain it?
>
> I would love to maintain it =) I'm not an artists but I love this
> theme and I'm a fairly good packager / autotools intermediate user.
> There are already a few submissions on launchpad bugs which I would be
> willing to investigate (legal / licensing) and incorporate.
>
> (I like breathe as well and I'm not intending to steal thunder ;-) I
> just want tangerine to still be in decent shape in ubuntu/debian
> archives)
>
> --
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>
>
> Dmitrijs Ledkovs (for short Dima),
> Ледков Дмитрий Юрьевич
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Themes for Karmic

2009-08-26 Thread Andrew SB
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Andrew SB wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Those of you familiar with the release schedule [0] or the
> documentation that was put together for the community-themes package
> at the beginning of this cycle [1] know that Feature Freeze [2] will
> be upon us Thursday, August 27th. This coincides with scheduled first
> drop of the official art work. [3] In previous discussions about the
> community-themes package, it seems that it was decided to follow the
> official artwork schedule for our package as well.
>
> In other words we need to start making some decisions about which
> themes to include in the community-themes Karmic package. (In fact,
> looking at our schedule now it seems very back loaded in retrospect.
> We probably should have started the decision making process earlier.)
> Those interested should take a look at Incoming/Karmic [4] and perhaps
> officially propose something for inclusion? As our earlier discussions
> of creating a Community Art Council that could make final decisions
> seem to have fizzled, I suppose we will have to come to a general
> level of consensus. So let's start discussing!
>
> Currently the package includes only Kin and Impression, with Dust and
> New Wave having been promoted to main in the gnome-themes-ubuntu
> package. To get the ball rolling, my personal proposal for Karmic
> would be to update to the new version of Impression, drop Kin, and
> include two new themes. That would give us a total of three in the
> package. I think having much more than that would make the package a
> bit over-whelming. We want the best that the community has to offer,
> not a huge mess of themes. Also, if we have too many, it will make
> adding new themes in future releases harder as it always seems harder
> to cut old stuff out as people become attached.
>
> I know several themes have been posted to this list that don't seem to
> be on the wiki yet. I strongly encourage their authors to create wiki
> pages for them soon. It will make it much easier to refer to your
> theme in discussion rather than having to find a link to a post in the
> mailing-list archive.
>
> Any themes stand out to you?
>
> Should we retain Impression and Kin?
>
> Any other things we should be considering?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
>
> P.S.  Ken, if you're reading this, any chance you could add me to the
> ubuntu-art-pkg team in Launchpad? It owns the official
> community-themes branch, and as I imagine that I'm going to be the one
> packaging/uploading this (anyone else?) it would make my life easier
> to be able to commit directly. I applied months back with out any
> response.
>
> [0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
> [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/CommunityThemes
> [2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze
> [3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkFirstDrop
> [4] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic
>

Hello all,

Even though we haven't seen that much discussion yet, I'd really like
to get an upload done to coincide with the First Artwork Drop and
Feature Freeze. Nothing would be set in stone, but it would allow for
wider testing of the new themes. Also after FF bug fixes are allowed,
but we'd need to go through the exemption process to add new stuff.

I've prepared an upload that adds Hanso and Turrican. It also updates
Impression to its latest and has numerous packaging fixes. If you're
interested in looking at all the changes, my packaging branch is here:

https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~andrewsomething/community-themes/community-themes

If you'd like to test before I make the upload, you can grab a deb here:

http://people.ubuntu.com/~andrewsomething/community-themes_0.15~andrewsomething1_all.deb

Let me know what you think. Remember, we can always reconsider, but
I'd like to get something pushed out before the Freeze for testing.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Community Themes for Karmic

2009-08-26 Thread Andrew SB
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Thorsten Wilms wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 22:52 -0400, Andrew SB wrote:
>
>> Currently the package includes only Kin and Impression, with Dust and
>> New Wave having been promoted to main in the gnome-themes-ubuntu
>> package. To get the ball rolling, my personal proposal for Karmic
>> would be to update to the new version of Impression, drop Kin, and
>> include two new themes.
>
> I think 3 is minimum, up to 5 fine.
>
> >From what I currently see on the wiki, I can only mention:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/NightImpression
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Turrican

Hmm... Night Impression's tar.gz (Build 90823-2) download seems to be
empty... =(



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[ubuntu-art] Community Themes for Karmic

2009-08-24 Thread Andrew SB
Hi all,

Those of you familiar with the release schedule [0] or the
documentation that was put together for the community-themes package
at the beginning of this cycle [1] know that Feature Freeze [2] will
be upon us Thursday, August 27th. This coincides with scheduled first
drop of the official art work. [3] In previous discussions about the
community-themes package, it seems that it was decided to follow the
official artwork schedule for our package as well.

In other words we need to start making some decisions about which
themes to include in the community-themes Karmic package. (In fact,
looking at our schedule now it seems very back loaded in retrospect.
We probably should have started the decision making process earlier.)
Those interested should take a look at Incoming/Karmic [4] and perhaps
officially propose something for inclusion? As our earlier discussions
of creating a Community Art Council that could make final decisions
seem to have fizzled, I suppose we will have to come to a general
level of consensus. So let's start discussing!

Currently the package includes only Kin and Impression, with Dust and
New Wave having been promoted to main in the gnome-themes-ubuntu
package. To get the ball rolling, my personal proposal for Karmic
would be to update to the new version of Impression, drop Kin, and
include two new themes. That would give us a total of three in the
package. I think having much more than that would make the package a
bit over-whelming. We want the best that the community has to offer,
not a huge mess of themes. Also, if we have too many, it will make
adding new themes in future releases harder as it always seems harder
to cut old stuff out as people become attached.

I know several themes have been posted to this list that don't seem to
be on the wiki yet. I strongly encourage their authors to create wiki
pages for them soon. It will make it much easier to refer to your
theme in discussion rather than having to find a link to a post in the
mailing-list archive.

Any themes stand out to you?

Should we retain Impression and Kin?

Any other things we should be considering?

Thanks!

- Andrew Starr-Bochicchio

P.S.  Ken, if you're reading this, any chance you could add me to the
ubuntu-art-pkg team in Launchpad? It owns the official
community-themes branch, and as I imagine that I'm going to be the one
packaging/uploading this (anyone else?) it would make my life easier
to be able to commit directly. I applied months back with out any
response.

[0] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule
[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Documentation/CommunityThemes
[2] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze
[3] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkFirstDrop
[4] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Status - Aug 10th 2009

2009-08-10 Thread Andrew SB
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Cory K. wrote:
> @Andrew. Since we have moved to trunk for our packaging can you remove
> the packaging branch? I also think your packaging bug is hooked to that
> branch. I think since it's "Fixed-Released" it's ok if the link is broken.

I just set the status to "Merged." That way it still exists, but it
will not show up on pages like:

https://code.edge.launchpad.net/breathe-icon-set

But for archival purposes, this url still exists:

https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/breathe-icon-set/debian-packaging

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Status - Aug 10th 2009

2009-08-10 Thread Andrew SB
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Cory K. wrote:
> So for now, I think the 0.50 release will be the one that makes Karmic.
> It's pretty solid (though i'm not sold on "computer" really) and
> bug-free. Any word on this Andrew? Is it through REVU?

Yep, I uploaded it the day of the release. It's past the NEW queue and
is availiable in Karmic.

https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/breathe-icon-theme

and...@andrew-testing:~$ apt-cache policy breathe-icon-theme
breathe-icon-theme:
  Installed: 0.50
  Candidate: 0.50
  Version table:
 *** 0.50 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/universe Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] battery status

2009-07-23 Thread Andrew SB
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:54 AM, spg76 wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Cory K.  wrote:
>>
>> dani wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > I like it but you should adjust the colors to the palette, as well as
>> > upload files svg
>> >
>>
>> Well usually Sebastien just uploads the PNGs just to show and SVGs when
>> final.
>>
>> @Daniel: Do you have more color-corrected SVGS? I was kinda waiting on
>> getting more from you until I upload what I have. (I forwarded Seb the
>> ones you sent so he could see the colors)
>
> Yeah, there were many files so I didn't upload the SVGs. As Cory said, I
> just want to show what I did. If you all like it I'll make the final
> adjustments (color palette included) and upload the files to Launchpad.


I don't know if this is something that will be addressed when doing
your color corrections, but the yellow in gpm-primary-040 is very hard
to see at the smallest sizes. It's hard for me to distinguish it from
gpm-primary-000. As those are the sizes that would end up on the
panel, it would be nice if it were a little clearer.

I think it needs to be a bit darker... Perhaps use an orange?

Thanks!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] banners for relase

2009-07-18 Thread Andrew SB
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 8:06 AM, daniel planas
armangue wrote:
>
> I created some Banners to help spread the Breathe icon set in first
> relase. Hope you like and comment or submit your ideas
>
> Daniel.P

Any chance you can update these? With the folder change, the banner on
the GNOME-Look page is now out dated.

Thanks!

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[ubuntu-art] Fwd: [ubuntu/karmic] breathe-icon-theme 0.50 (New)

2009-07-18 Thread Andrew SB
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Subject: [ubuntu/karmic] breathe-icon-theme 0.50 (New)
To: Andrew Starr-Bochicchio 


NEW: breathe-icon-theme_0.50.tar.gz
NEW: breathe-icon-theme_0.50.dsc

breathe-icon-theme (0.50) karmic; urgency=low

 * Initial release. (LP: #398232)


Your package contains new components which requires manual editing of
the override file.  It is ok otherwise, so please be patient.  New
packages are usually added to the overrides about once a week.

You may have gotten the distroseries wrong.  If so, you may get warnings
above if files already exist in other distroseries.

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[ubuntu-art] Announcing Breathe Icon Theme v0.50

2009-07-18 Thread Andrew SB
I'm pleased to announce, on behalf of the Ubuntu artwork community,
the release of Breathe Icon Theme v0.50!

This version introduces new folder icons including XDG folders (i.e.
Music, Documents, ect). Also included for the first time are new
emotes, network-manager icons, and much much more.

Packages designed to be dropped into GNOME appearance preferences can
be found here:

  * Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet#Releases

  * GNOME-Look: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=105873

Ubuntu packages for Hardy, Intrepid, Jaunty, and Karmic can be found
in the Breathe PPA.

  * PPA: https://edge.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/+archive/ppa

And for the first time, Breathe will be availiable in the official
Ubuntu repositories for Karmic! The package is currently waiting for
approval by the Ubuntu Archive Admins.

 - Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
 Breathe Release Manager
 Ubuntu MOTU Developer

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Freeze for 0.50 release.

2009-07-17 Thread Andrew SB
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Cory K. wrote:
> Andrew SB wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Cory K. wrote:
>>
>>> Baring anything major Breathe is now frozen for it's 0.50 release due
>>> out this weekend. (July 18th or so)
>>>
>>> This means no new icons and only bug fixes 'till Friday. I will however
>>> make an exception for bug-free additions that complete particular
>>> sections from current artists.
>>>
>>> AndrewSB will now be handling the official release duties from now on.
>>> Currently this means maintaining our PPA, releases in the Ubuntu archive
>>> and GNOME-Look.
>>>
>>> So, I think I'll get some small updates done now and we'll push a new
>>> PPA build tomorrow. Everyone please test for and report any technical
>>> issues.
>>>
>>>
>>> @AndrewSB: How's the "Needs Packaging" bug going?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I'm feeling pretty good about the packaging. I think it's ready for upload.
>>
>
> Ok. My latest upload should be considered release-ready.

Alright.

>> Not something to block the .50 release, but worth bringing up for
>> discussion: We could use some translations for the comment field:
>> "Breathe Icon Theme"
>>
>> It's a bit of an over kill for one string, but I uploaded the .pot
>> file to Rosetta:
>>
>> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/breathe-icon-set/trunk/+pots/breathe-icon-theme
>>
>
> Ok cool. Everyone is encouraged to visit the above link and post what
> they can. :)

I'll go ahead and merge what we have for the release.

> @AndrewSB: Can the template be owned by breathe-dev?
>

Done.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Merge trunk and packaging branches?

2009-07-17 Thread Andrew SB
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:55 PM, Cory K. wrote:
> This is mostly a question for AndrewSB.
>
> I'm wondering if there's any reason why a BZR branch set up for Debian
> packaging couldn't be considered an upstream? (as this is a native
> package and we do it in Studio)
>
> If there is nothing glaring, I'm inclined to merge the two to reduce
> some of the redundancy. We would do all our work there and I suspect the
> build system would just ignore the other files/folders.
>

No reason at all. I always though it was a bit redundant. None of the
other files will be installed to the binary or end up on the user's
system. In fact, having that stuff in the source package is probably a
good thing as it would contain the complete one-canvas source SVGs. We
could even add render_bitmap.py to the build process so that the
package it truly "built from source."

We should do go ahead and do this after the release...

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Freeze for 0.50 release.

2009-07-15 Thread Andrew SB
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Cory K. wrote:
> Baring anything major Breathe is now frozen for it's 0.50 release due
> out this weekend. (July 18th or so)
>
> This means no new icons and only bug fixes 'till Friday. I will however
> make an exception for bug-free additions that complete particular
> sections from current artists.
>
> AndrewSB will now be handling the official release duties from now on.
> Currently this means maintaining our PPA, releases in the Ubuntu archive
> and GNOME-Look.
>
> So, I think I'll get some small updates done now and we'll push a new
> PPA build tomorrow. Everyone please test for and report any technical
> issues.
>
>
> @AndrewSB: How's the "Needs Packaging" bug going?
>

I'm feeling pretty good about the packaging. I think it's ready for upload.

Not something to block the .50 release, but worth bringing up for
discussion: We could use some translations for the comment field:
"Breathe Icon Theme"

It's a bit of an over kill for one string, but I uploaded the .pot
file to Rosetta:

https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/breathe-icon-set/trunk/+pots/breathe-icon-theme

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu art requests page?

2009-07-13 Thread Andrew SB
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Mads Rosendahl wrote:
> Hi
> It seems the activity on this thread has died.
> To move this project forward, I would like to setup the ArtRequests
> wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ArtRequests). If anyone wants to
> create the wiki page, I will be more than happy to pass the task on. I
> will suggest that we use the Gnome artrequests page as base for the
> layout, and add a #bug columns. Anyone got ideas for improvements?
>
> Kenneth wrote:
>> I think it would be a great idea, if we really commit ourselves to solving 
>> the
>> problems, listening to advice and trying to move forward as a group. This is
>> another chance for us to prove ourselves. I suggest that the requests are 
>> done
>> via launchpad bugs (we already have a lot!) and that we perhaps look into
>> coupling this with one hundred paper cuts project.
>
> How do we do this requests done via launchpad bugs? Are bugs tagged,
> like "needs-artwork"?
>
> Great idea to team up with the One hundred paper cuts project, but
> isn't it closed now for this cycle?

Some of the bugs already accepted might fall into this project as well.

>>
>> Ideas? Critic? Interested in working on this? Let us know!
>>
>> --
>> Kenneth
>
> I think this ArtRequests wiki is working out fantastically for Gnome
> (Fedora also has something similar) and I think Ubuntu could benefit
> from a project like this.
> Like Kenneth said,  Ideas? Critic? Interested in working on this? Let us know!

I like the idea of using tags more. I'm sure there must be quite a few
bugs out there that someone of this list could resolve, but you just
don't know how to find them. The key is to actually get others to use
the "needs-artwork" tag though. There only seems to be one bug using
the tag so far:

https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=needs-artwork

We should probably make an announcement to the bug-squad mailing list.

Perhaps we should see if we can make it an "official tag."

http://blog.launchpad.net/cool-new-stuff/official-bug-tags

I don't have any idea who actually has the power to do such a thing though...

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] download icon bug

2009-07-11 Thread Andrew SB
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Cory K. wrote:
> Nicolò Chieffo wrote:
>> The download icon must be named folder-download and not folder-downloads.
>>
>
> Fixed. Andrew can upload fix to PPA when he has the time.
>

Uploaded.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Lots of updates. July 11th 2009

2009-07-11 Thread Andrew SB
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Cory K. wrote:
> The past week has brought many bug fixes and a handful of new icons. Too
> much to mention right now. The highlight being a complete set of new
> folder icons including the XDG user dirs.
>
> https://code.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/breathe-icon-set/trunk
>
> @Andrew: If you would like to push to the PPA the current packaging
> branch state as testing package for 0.50 that would be cool. Maybe we
> call it 0.47 and 0.50 once things look good after some feedback? (just a
> day or 2)

Uploaded. They're sitting in the build queue now, should be availiable
in a few minutes...

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe PPA

2009-07-08 Thread Andrew SB
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Cory K. wrote:
>> Anyways, the packaging seems about ready for release. Should we wait
>> for 0.50? What's the time frame for that?
>>
>
> Let's push the 0.50 release on the 12th. Will give some time for little
> fixes and to wrap up a few other items.
>
> So, artists if you have something cookin' get it to me by the 10th so I
> have time to up[load and test.
>
> @Andrew: You're going to take over the "BreatheMgr" account at
> GNOME-Look so as to handle the releases there correct?

Sure thing. Contact me off list with the account info.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe PPA

2009-07-08 Thread Andrew SB
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Andrew SB wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
>> On Tuesday 30 June 2009 22:40:22 Cory K. wrote:
>>> Kenneth Wimer wrote:
>>> > On Tuesday 30 June 2009 10:31:00 Cory K. wrote:
>>> >> Andrew SB wrote:
>>> >>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Cory K. wrote:
>>> >>>> So what's your next move? Do you wanna try to go for a 0.44 upload to
>>> >>>> REVU or does kwwii wanna take this on? (as we've chatted before about
>>> >>>> it. just had to give him the go. GO!) :P
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Well, there's some work that probably needs to get done before it will
>>> >>> get accepted.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> * License Review:
>>> >>> - COPYING (and debian/copyright) claim CC-BY-SA-3.0 while svg
>>> >>> metadata says CC-BY-NC-SA-3.0
>>> >>> - Which is right?
>>> >>> - Are NC license "non-free"?
>>> >>> - Jakub Steiner listed in svg metadata, but not AUTHORS (and
>>> >>> debian/copyright) - Oxygen team is in AUTHORS but not
>>> >>> debian/copyright.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I know in Debian, even though they now accept CC-3.0, NC is considered
>>> >>> "non-free." I can't seem to find a clear statement on whether it's
>>> >>> acceptable in Ubuntu Universe, but my feeling is that it is not.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> >From the Debian Free Software Guidlines FAQ:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> (http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> "Q: Can I say "You must not use the program for commercial purposes"?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> A: This is non-free. We want businesses to be able to use Debian for
>>> >>> their computing needs. A business should be able to use any program in
>>> >>> Debian without checking its license."
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Anyone seen a definitive Ubuntu policy statement on this? Again, my
>>> >>> inclination is that the license is "non-free." If someone wanted to
>>> >>> roll a commercial Ubuntu derivative, in theory they should be able to
>>> >>> redistribute anything in Universe with no problem.
>>> >>
>>> >> The 1st. CC-BY-SA-3.0 The metadata in the SVGs should be stripped. It's
>>> >> a remnant of something that never worked. Oxygen is dual-licensed:
>>> >> http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?page_id=4
>>> >
>>> > You need to at least continue the copyright that Jakub expresses for the
>>> > purposes he expressed it (ie, don't remove any of the copyright notices
>>> > which attribute his work to him).
>>>
>>> I don't use any direct work from him. Only the idea. We should give him
>>> a shout out anyway.
>>
>> To be honest, unless you have plans to make big bucks on this stuff I would
>> assign copyright as broadly as needed amongst known open source
>> advocates/artists. As long as the original material is in line with your
>> licensing, why not? (if some part of their work did indeed make it into
>> yours)
>>
>>> Any metadata in the SVGs I added because I thought it would be fun to
>>> use. Turns out, nobody cared.
>>
>> Lol, no doubt. It only adds value as an additional copyright notice for the
>> actual author(s). In the end, you can do this via the AUTHORS file as well
>> as the COPYRIGHT, etc.
>
> Getting all the licensing / copyright in order can be a bit tedious,
> but not having it right is the main reason why packages get rejected
> in NEW. Getting everything straightened out for gnome-colors was a
> real hassle, as the icons in that set come from a few different
> sources.
>
> I fixed the metadata in the svg's. As they all use the same template
> it was painless. For the record here is the command I ran:
>
> find . -type f -name *.svg | xargs sed -i -e "s/by-nc-sa/by-sa/g"
>
>>
>>> > If there are oxygen icons or parts of oxygen icons
>>> > being used (or even if there is a very strong similarity in design or
>>> > style) you should include the names of the authors in the AUTHORS file
>>> > as
>>> > well as attributing the correct licence.
>>> >
>>> > It seems to m

Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe PPA

2009-07-01 Thread Andrew SB
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Kenneth Wimer wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 June 2009 22:40:22 Cory K. wrote:
>> Kenneth Wimer wrote:
>> > On Tuesday 30 June 2009 10:31:00 Cory K. wrote:
>> >> Andrew SB wrote:
>> >>> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Cory K. wrote:
>> >>>> So what's your next move? Do you wanna try to go for a 0.44 upload to
>> >>>> REVU or does kwwii wanna take this on? (as we've chatted before about
>> >>>> it. just had to give him the go. GO!) :P
>> >>>
>> >>> Well, there's some work that probably needs to get done before it will
>> >>> get accepted.
>> >>>
>> >>> * License Review:
>> >>> - COPYING (and debian/copyright) claim CC-BY-SA-3.0 while svg
>> >>> metadata says CC-BY-NC-SA-3.0
>> >>> - Which is right?
>> >>> - Are NC license "non-free"?
>> >>> - Jakub Steiner listed in svg metadata, but not AUTHORS (and
>> >>> debian/copyright) - Oxygen team is in AUTHORS but not
>> >>> debian/copyright.
>> >>>
>> >>> I know in Debian, even though they now accept CC-3.0, NC is considered
>> >>> "non-free." I can't seem to find a clear statement on whether it's
>> >>> acceptable in Ubuntu Universe, but my feeling is that it is not.
>> >>>
>> >>> >From the Debian Free Software Guidlines FAQ:
>> >>>
>> >>> (http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html)
>> >>>
>> >>> "Q: Can I say "You must not use the program for commercial purposes"?
>> >>>
>> >>> A: This is non-free. We want businesses to be able to use Debian for
>> >>> their computing needs. A business should be able to use any program in
>> >>> Debian without checking its license."
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyone seen a definitive Ubuntu policy statement on this? Again, my
>> >>> inclination is that the license is "non-free." If someone wanted to
>> >>> roll a commercial Ubuntu derivative, in theory they should be able to
>> >>> redistribute anything in Universe with no problem.
>> >>
>> >> The 1st. CC-BY-SA-3.0 The metadata in the SVGs should be stripped. It's
>> >> a remnant of something that never worked. Oxygen is dual-licensed:
>> >> http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?page_id=4
>> >
>> > You need to at least continue the copyright that Jakub expresses for the
>> > purposes he expressed it (ie, don't remove any of the copyright notices
>> > which attribute his work to him).
>>
>> I don't use any direct work from him. Only the idea. We should give him
>> a shout out anyway.
>
> To be honest, unless you have plans to make big bucks on this stuff I would
> assign copyright as broadly as needed amongst known open source
> advocates/artists. As long as the original material is in line with your
> licensing, why not? (if some part of their work did indeed make it into
> yours)
>
>> Any metadata in the SVGs I added because I thought it would be fun to
>> use. Turns out, nobody cared.
>
> Lol, no doubt. It only adds value as an additional copyright notice for the
> actual author(s). In the end, you can do this via the AUTHORS file as well
> as the COPYRIGHT, etc.

Getting all the licensing / copyright in order can be a bit tedious,
but not having it right is the main reason why packages get rejected
in NEW. Getting everything straightened out for gnome-colors was a
real hassle, as the icons in that set come from a few different
sources.

I fixed the metadata in the svg's. As they all use the same template
it was painless. For the record here is the command I ran:

find . -type f -name *.svg | xargs sed -i -e "s/by-nc-sa/by-sa/g"

>
>> > If there are oxygen icons or parts of oxygen icons
>> > being used (or even if there is a very strong similarity in design or
>> > style) you should include the names of the authors in the AUTHORS file
>> > as
>> > well as attributing the correct licence.
>> >
>> > It seems to me, just by reading this and not getting into it very deep
>> > that you do not need to include the oxygen list (and if it turned out
>> > that you did, I am sure I would ask nicely first :p)
>>
>> I think I mention the team. Kenneth, if you could, please look through
>> the packaging branch and see if things fit your idea of how they should
>> be. Credi

Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe PPA

2009-06-29 Thread Andrew SB
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Cory K. wrote:
> So what's your next move? Do you wanna try to go for a 0.44 upload to
> REVU or does kwwii wanna take this on? (as we've chatted before about
> it. just had to give him the go. GO!) :P


Well, there's some work that probably needs to get done before it will
get accepted.

* License Review:
  - COPYING (and debian/copyright) claim CC-BY-SA-3.0 while svg
metadata says CC-BY-NC-SA-3.0
  - Which is right?
  - Are NC license "non-free"?
  - Jakub Steiner listed in svg metadata, but not AUTHORS (and debian/copyright)
  - Oxygen team is in AUTHORS but not debian/copyright.

I know in Debian, even though they now accept CC-3.0, NC is considered
"non-free." I can't seem to find a clear statement on whether it's
acceptable in Ubuntu Universe, but my feeling is that it is not.

>From the Debian Free Software Guidlines FAQ:
(http://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html)

"Q: Can I say "You must not use the program for commercial purposes"?

A: This is non-free. We want businesses to be able to use Debian for
their computing needs. A business should be able to use any program in
Debian without checking its license."

Anyone seen a definitive Ubuntu policy statement on this? Again, my
inclination is that the license is "non-free." If someone wanted to
roll a commercial Ubuntu derivative, in theory they should be able to
redistribute anything in Universe with no problem.

I'm also still a bit unclear on if there are any actual Oxygen bits in
there. Is it safe to add a note to AUTHORS saying that it's simply
inspired by Oxygen, does the Oxygen team hold the copyright on
anything in the theme?

* Native package or not?
 - I think that it shouldn't be a native package.
  + Pros and Cons:

   - In a native package, the versioning of the source package and the
debian package are identical. This gets problematic when doing things
like making a packaging bug fix upload to Ubuntu only. The version
number will be bumped, even though there hasn't actually been an
upstream release and the only changes are in the debian dir.
  - Would mean making a tarball release along with the drag-and-drop release.
  - Most Ubuntu artwork packages are native packages, but while
Breathe is designed with Ubuntu in mind there's nothing stopping other
distros from shipping it.

Either way, it's not really a big deal. I just think that it shouldn't
technically be a native package. (To the uninitiated, simply should
the Ubuntu version be 0.44 or 0.44-0ubuntu1)

* Other trivial bits (ie not very important, but worth fixing).
 - Since Ken changed the build system, the INSTALL file doesn't
actually apply anymore
 - NEWS and README are empty files (remove or write something?)
 - No upstream changelog (running the following before releasing will
create a GNU style changelog based on the bzr commits: "bzr log -v
--gnu-changelog > ChangeLog") Do we care or need it?
 - Ubuntu packages should close a needs-packaging bug on initial upload

The licensing bit is really the most important part. I wouldn't ACK a
someone else's package on review as it is now.

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[ubuntu-art] Breathe PPA

2009-06-29 Thread Andrew SB
Hi all,

I'm pleased to let people know that the Breathe PPA is now building
packages for the current bzr revision. I'll be updating the PPA at
least once per week as long as something interesting has been done in
trunk. Remember, as the PPA's description says, this is a testing
repo. So while I'll make every effort to avoid breakage, it is
publishing snapshots of current development not official releases.

Hopefully, this will make it easier for those of you following
Breathe's development.

https://edge.launchpad.net/~breathe-dev/+archive/ppa

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Oxygen icon use.

2009-06-26 Thread Andrew SB
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:48 AM, daniel planas
armangue wrote:
> El jue, 25-06-2009 a las 18:48 -0400, Cory K. escribió:
>> @Daniel
>>
>> Can you tell me what submissions you currently have on the wiki are
>> derived from Oxygen icons?
>>
>>
>> -Cory K.
>
> my submissions are created from zero now
>
> dp: in document send I used the stamp watermarks of an icon of oxygen.
>

I had been meaning to ask about this as well. In the packaging branch
the AUTHORS file includes the Oxygen team and debian/control's
description claims that pieces of Oxygen are used. Are there any more
instances of Oxygen included in Breathe? We need to get them
documented in debian/copyright before we can upload to Karmic...

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] wiki/release for Karmic

2009-06-25 Thread Andrew SB
On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:20 PM, mac_v wrote:
> Smartboy wrote:
>>
>> The problem I forsee with waiting too long past Karmic (and indeed
>> 10.04) would be that we run up against GNOME 3 coming out. This could
>> mean that we would have to do major repackaging/remaking of many icons,
>> and get rid of more.
>>
>
> Which would make it wiser *to wait* ! so that the renaming can be done
> for a longer schedule... than to do proper labelling now and have to
> repeat it later...
>

Parity with GNOME's icon theme is actually a goal for 2.0 which should
give us plenty of time to feel out any changes needed for GNOME 3. The
goal for 1.0 is to fill all of the icons mentioned by the Freedesktop
spec, which I don't see changing due to GNOME 3. It's a cross desktop
standard used by GNOME, KDE, and others. GNOME will work to follow it
for its base icons regardless of what else changes in GNOME 3. I don't
think we have much to worry about here

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Chocolate Color Scheme

2009-06-22 Thread Andrew SB
> On Sunday 21 June 2009 15:17:46 Allan Caeg wrote:
>> Perfectska04 has a famous GNOME theme suite. Probably, a lot of you are
>> familiar to it and are using it. He has a set of icon themes, GDM
>> themes, and gtk themes that have different color schemes. His latest
>> color scheme is the "Dust" variant. This scheme's look and feel is based
>> on the color of chocolate. Prior to that, he always had a "Human"
>> variant, which is orange. The Dust variant feels more earthy and looks
>> much more elegant. For some reason, I am much more comfortable with the
>> chocolate feel. Maybe because orange really feels cheaper. It has always
>> been associated with low end products and services while a dark shade of
>> brown, in my opinion, reminds the user of chocolate and leather.

FYI, GNOME-Colors, Shiki-Colors, and Arc-Colors are all sitting in
Debian NEW right now and will be in Karmic. They were packaged by me
and Benjamin Drung. You can find a PPA and Bzr branches with the
packaging here:

https://edge.launchpad.net/~gnome-colors-packagers

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Cruft, stuff and other junk...

2009-06-14 Thread Andrew SB
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Cory K. wrote:
> Breathe will be in the repos for Karmic. We'll be trying to get it in
> soon and we should be able to update more before Ubuntu feature freeze.

Do you and Ken need any help on the packaging front?

Feel free to contact me when / if you need someone to upload / sponsor.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] SymLink Creating Infrastructure

2009-06-09 Thread Andrew SB
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Cory K. wrote:
> Andrew SB wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Cory K. wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Cory,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry I meant the ppa, what you are assuming is that everyone will know 
>>>> how to take the debian
>>>> packaging branch and create a package out of that, many people may not 
>>>> know how to do this (I have
>>>> certainly just learned) and so I believe it is better to include the 
>>>> script as then people who
>>>> don't know the in and outs of packaging can get the bleeding edge icons.
>>>>
>>> Building the packaging branch (with bzr-buildpackage) is no more
>>> difficult than running the script. I'll put up a HOWTO soon.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Other Andrew here...
>>
>> Perhaps, more generally, the PPA should be updated more often. Weekly
>> builds? Nightly seems an overkill.
>>
>> Attached are two different scripts I threw together.
>>
>> Both are designed to run from within the packaging branch with the
>> script one directory bellow (e.g. f...@bar:~breathe/debian-packaging$
>> ../foobar.sh ).They also assume that you are setup for building deb
>> packages (e.g. you have DEBMAIL and DEBFULLNAME in your ~/.bashrc) and
>>  that you have a breathe-ppa target in your ~/.dput.cf
>>
>> They both update the branch, build the source package with an
>> appropriate version number (e.g.
>> breathe-icon-theme_0.44ubuntu1+bzr50~intrepid ), and upload to the
>> PPA.
>>
>> bzr-build.sh targets only one distro which you must specify when you run it.
>>
>> bzr-build-all.sh targets karmic, jaunty, intrepid, and hardy all at once.
>>
>> They're both pretty simple. Check them out, and let me know if you
>> think they're helpful. If so, I'd be willing to make them more robust
>> (better error handling, ect).
>>
>> One thing to be aware of is that they both run "bzr revert" before
>> building the packages in order to not upload any uncommited changes.
>> So if you've made any changes to the branch commit them before
>> running...
>>
>
> Oh cool. I'll have a look over this and get it running on my home server
> (it runs Hardy. hope its not an issue) as a cron. (might be 2 weeks or
> so. I have *alot* going on)
>
> Though now that I think, I'll have to make sure it does something with
> the versioning automagically.
>

They do.  The thing to do is use dpkg-parsechangelog and bzr revno.

They use something along the line of this to get the version:

DVERSION=`(dpkg-parsechangelog | grep Version: | cut -d' ' -f2-)`
REV=`bzr revno`

dch --newversion $DVERSION"+bzr"$REV"~"$DISTRO

It basically gets the last real version number from the
debian/changelog then append the bzr revision and target distro.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] SymLink Creating Infrastructure

2009-06-09 Thread Andrew SB
On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Cory K. wrote:
> Andrew wrote:
>> Hi Cory,
>>
>> Sorry I meant the ppa, what you are assuming is that everyone will know how 
>> to take the debian
>> packaging branch and create a package out of that, many people may not know 
>> how to do this (I have
>> certainly just learned) and so I believe it is better to include the script 
>> as then people who
>> don't know the in and outs of packaging can get the bleeding edge icons.
>
> Building the packaging branch (with bzr-buildpackage) is no more
> difficult than running the script. I'll put up a HOWTO soon.
>
>
> -Cory K.
>

Other Andrew here...

Perhaps, more generally, the PPA should be updated more often. Weekly
builds? Nightly seems an overkill.

Attached are two different scripts I threw together.

Both are designed to run from within the packaging branch with the
script one directory bellow (e.g. f...@bar:~breathe/debian-packaging$
../foobar.sh ).They also assume that you are setup for building deb
packages (e.g. you have DEBMAIL and DEBFULLNAME in your ~/.bashrc) and
 that you have a breathe-ppa target in your ~/.dput.cf

They both update the branch, build the source package with an
appropriate version number (e.g.
breathe-icon-theme_0.44ubuntu1+bzr50~intrepid ), and upload to the
PPA.

bzr-build.sh targets only one distro which you must specify when you run it.

bzr-build-all.sh targets karmic, jaunty, intrepid, and hardy all at once.

They're both pretty simple. Check them out, and let me know if you
think they're helpful. If so, I'd be willing to make them more robust
(better error handling, ect).

One thing to be aware of is that they both run "bzr revert" before
building the packages in order to not upload any uncommited changes.
So if you've made any changes to the branch commit them before
running...

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bzr-build.sh
Description: Bourne shell script


bzr-build-all.sh
Description: Bourne shell script
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Re: [ubuntu-art] setting up a meeting

2009-06-01 Thread Andrew SB
On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Kenneth Wimer  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Who would be interested in having an irc meeting to discuss current and
> future community related design issues?

Count me in

> Issues which come to mind are:

It would also be nice to have some further conversation on the team's
"governance," for lack of a better word. Artwork Team Council? Changes
to the Launchpad team, ect...

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] 1st Release!! (attn: kwwii)

2009-05-30 Thread Andrew SB
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Cory K.  wrote:
> We also need to get this version into REVU for Karmic.

Regarding Breathe, but also packaging tasks for the Artwork Team in
general (i.e. community-themes)...

As of last Thursday, I am now a MOTU. So for at least for packages in
Universe, I can now upload directly to the archive (although new
packages should still go through the REVU process).

Hopefully this will cut down on some of the red-tape involved in doing
things like updating the community-themes package.

- Andrew Starr-Bochicchio

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] 1st Release!!

2009-05-30 Thread Andrew SB
On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Cory K.  wrote:
> kwwii: Can you blog about this? (so as to get it on Planet)

I'm on Planet Ubuntu as well, so I went and threw up a little post:

http://andrewsomething.wordpress.com/2009/05/30/because-humans-need-oxygen/

Someone came along and translated it into Italian:

http://www.ossblog.it/post/4989/primo-rilascio-per-il-tema-di-icone-breathe

The more exposure the better. So if you have a blog, make a post as
well. Also remember, even if you're not an Ubuntu Member, you can be
aggregated on Planet Ubuntu Users. Check out the requirements:
http://ubuntuweblogs.org/submit.html

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