Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread shadowh511



On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept  
that I found for ubuntu.
First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really  
a great concept. you can check it out at http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 
.
I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I  
know I did!


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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Michael
is that sarcasm i smell?! :p

2008/8/4 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept that I
 found for ubuntu.
 First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really a
 great concept. you can check it out at
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910
 .
 I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I know I
 did!

 Regards,
 Mike

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 Welcome to the team! ようこそ(welcome in Japanese)There is a theme called long
 term vision by Brian that has the same main idea though.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread shadowh511



On Aug 3, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


is that sarcasm i smell?! :p

2008/8/4 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept  
that I found for ubuntu.
First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's  
really a great concept. you can check it out at http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 
.
I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I  
know I did!


Regards,
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Welcome to the team! ようこそ(welcome in Japanese)
There is a theme called long term vision by Brian that has the same  
main idea though.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Luis Ojeda




- Original Message 
From: shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2008 11:19:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept




On Aug 3, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


is that sarcasm i smell?! :p


2008/8/4 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]



On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept that I found 
for ubuntu. 
First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really a great 
concept. you can check it out at 
http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910.
I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I know I did!

Regards,
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Welcome to the team! ようこそ(welcome in Japanese)
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though. 
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No that's my breath (gotta lay down on the raw garlic)

Wait so, is there really a theme similar to the mock up that is currently being 
worked on or available?



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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread shadowh511



On Aug 3, 2008, at 11:25 PM, Luis Ojeda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




- Original Message 
From: shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion on Ubuntu artwork ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2008 11:19:39 PM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept



On Aug 3, 2008, at 11:04 PM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


is that sarcasm i smell?! :p

2008/8/4 shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept  
that I found for ubuntu.
First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's  
really a great concept. you can check it out at http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 
.
I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I  
know I did!


Regards,
Mike
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Welcome to the team! ようこそ(welcome in Japanese)
There is a theme called long term vision by Brian that has the same  
main idea though.


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No that's my breath (gotta lay down on the raw garlic)

Wait so, is there really a theme similar to the mock up that is  
currently being worked on or available?


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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Cory K.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept that
 I found for ubuntu.
 First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really a
 great concept. you can check it out at
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910.
 I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I know
 I did!

 Regards,
 Mike

Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Justin Dugger
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept that
 I found for ubuntu.
 First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really a
 great concept. you can check it out at
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910.
 I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I know
 I did!

 Regards,
 Mike

 Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows?

Because they're not open source, cost significant money and not
Ubuntu? Seriously though, the hate for things that resembles OSX
simply because they resemble OSX is getting old and is basically an
argument for the status quo.  The status quo is somewhere north of
MacOS 9, I think.

Intrepid is the perfect time to try out new themes and UI -- the last
release was an LTS so people wary of retraining have something else to
fall back on, and we'll have the largest amount of time possible for
feedback and testing.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Cory K.
Justin Dugger wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept that
 I found for ubuntu.
 First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really a
 great concept. you can check it out at
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910.
 I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I know
 I did!

 Regards,
 Mike
   
 Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows?
 

 Because they're not open source, cost significant money and not
 Ubuntu? Seriously though, the hate for things that resembles OSX
 simply because they resemble OSX is getting old and is basically an
 argument for the status quo.  The status quo is somewhere north of
 MacOS 9, I think.

 Intrepid is the perfect time to try out new themes and UI -- the last
 release was an LTS so people wary of retraining have something else to
 fall back on, and we'll have the largest amount of time possible for
 feedback and testing.

 Justin Dugger
   

The sarcasm passed right over you. :P

-Cory K.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Justin Dugger
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The sarcasm passed right over you. :P

 -Cory K.

Sorry. Someone offered the same sentiment  on IRC and I think they
were serious.  Perhaps Linux Hater broke my sarcasm meter?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Michael
Yeah, I think trying a new theme that still resembles the colors of Ubunut
would be a great hit.
BTW, who actually makes the decisions as to what is shipped with Ubuntu?
Thanks

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Justin Dugger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept that
  I found for ubuntu.
  First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really a
  great concept. you can check it out at
 
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910
 .
  I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I know
  I did!
 
  Regards,
  Mike
 
  Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows?

 Because they're not open source, cost significant money and not
 Ubuntu? Seriously though, the hate for things that resembles OSX
 simply because they resemble OSX is getting old and is basically an
 argument for the status quo.  The status quo is somewhere north of
 MacOS 9, I think.

 Intrepid is the perfect time to try out new themes and UI -- the last
 release was an LTS so people wary of retraining have something else to
 fall back on, and we'll have the largest amount of time possible for
 feedback and testing.

 Justin Dugger

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Cory K.
Michael wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Justin Dugger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great
 concept that
  I found for ubuntu.
  First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's
 really a
  great concept. you can check it out at
 
 
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910.
  I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design.
 I know
  I did!
 
  Regards,
  Mike
 
  Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows?

 Because they're not open source, cost significant money and not
 Ubuntu? Seriously though, the hate for things that resembles OSX
 simply because they resemble OSX is getting old and is basically an
 argument for the status quo.  The status quo is somewhere north of
 MacOS 9, I think.

 Intrepid is the perfect time to try out new themes and UI -- the last
 release was an LTS so people wary of retraining have something else to
 fall back on, and we'll have the largest amount of time possible for
 feedback and testing.

 Justin Dugger
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art



 Yeah, I think trying a new theme that still resembles the colors of
 Ubunut would be a great hit.
 BTW, who actually makes the decisions as to what is shipped with
 Ubuntu? Thanks
 -- 
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Please don't top-post.

Mark Shuttleworth does. Ken W. (kwwii) is the art lead and manages any
efforts between the community and what Marks wants.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread shadowh511



On Aug 4, 2008, at 7:24 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yeah, I think trying a new theme that still resembles the colors of  
Ubunut would be a great hit.
BTW, who actually makes the decisions as to what is shipped with  
Ubuntu? Thanks


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Justin Dugger [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept  
that

 I found for ubuntu.
 First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's  
really a

 great concept. you can check it out at
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910 
.
 I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I  
know

 I did!

 Regards,
 Mike

 Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows?

Because they're not open source, cost significant money and not
Ubuntu? Seriously though, the hate for things that resembles OSX
simply because they resemble OSX is getting old and is basically an
argument for the status quo.  The status quo is somewhere north of
MacOS 9, I think.

Intrepid is the perfect time to try out new themes and UI -- the last
release was an LTS so people wary of retraining have something else to
fall back on, and we'll have the largest amount of time possible for
feedback and testing.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Michael
is this it?
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Long_Term_Vision?action=AttachFiledo=gettarget=LTV_WindowandGlobalMenu.png

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 10:35 AM, shadowh511 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On Aug 4, 2008, at 7:24 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, I think trying a new theme that still resembles the colors of Ubunut
 would be a great hit.
 BTW, who actually makes the decisions as to what is shipped with Ubuntu?
 Thanks

 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Justin Dugger  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept that
  I found for ubuntu.
  First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really a
  great concept. you can check it out at
 
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910
 .
  I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I know
  I did!
 
  Regards,
  Mike
 
  Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows?

 Because they're not open source, cost significant money and not
 Ubuntu? Seriously though, the hate for things that resembles OSX
 simply because they resemble OSX is getting old and is basically an
 argument for the status quo.  The status quo is somewhere north of
 MacOS 9, I think.

 Intrepid is the perfect time to try out new themes and UI -- the last
 release was an LTS so people wary of retraining have something else to
 fall back on, and we'll have the largest amount of time possible for
 feedback and testing.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Matthew Nuzum
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows?


That criticism is not helpful. Please see our guidelines about posting
responses comparing someone's artwork to another OS:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2007-December/004618.html

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Cory K.
Matthew Nuzum wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows?
 

 That criticism is not helpful. Please see our guidelines about posting
 responses comparing someone's artwork to another OS:
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2007-December/004618.html
   

Again. Sarcasm. Seems to have missed you as well. ;)

And that's no rule/guideline. It was your suggestion. Just my two cents.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread shadowh511


On Aug 4, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 6:55 AM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wow. Why don't we just use OSX or Windows?


 That criticism is not helpful. Please see our guidelines about posting
 responses comparing someone's artwork to another OS:
 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-art/2007-December/004618.html

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Matthew Nuzum
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:51 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi guys. I'm new here, but I just wanted to share a great concept that I
 found for ubuntu.
 First of all, this design got the front page on Digg, so it's really a great
 concept. you can check it out at
 http://willwill100.deviantart.com/art/Interpid-Ibex-Mockup-Part-2-93584910.
 I hope the art team can find some inspiration from this design. I know I
 did!

There are two problems with this and one other issue I'd like to point out:

 * This design contains revolutionary concepts that will be tricky to
implement, though maybe it will inspire people to help work towards
them. The first item is the flat icons.
 * I'm concerned about the usability of the bright menus - in my
testing I've found that it's a challenge refocusing your eyes from a
very dark item to a light item or vice versa. This results in a loss
of productivity because you move slower because it takes a moment for
your eyes to refocus. Maybe there are productivity gains that offset
this - I'd like to see more user testing.

And my concern is that some of the exciting things about this theme
are not the theme. Imagine how popular a theme screenshot would be if
it included in the image a portion of a top secret email between Steve
Jobs and Steve Balmer. It would make it to the top of digg, slashdot
and the new york times - however that doesn't mean the theme should
become the default for Ubuntu.

That said, I love the wallpaper and the flat theme/icons.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Michael
I don't exactly understand what you mean by flat icons are tricky to
implement. And you make an interesting point about the bright menus. I would
be interested in researching that a bit further. But I agree that the
background image, the flat theme, and the icons are pretty cool. Just
wondering, who makes the decision of what gets packaged into the Ubuntu
ship?
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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't exactly understand what you mean by flat icons are tricky to
 implement. And you make an interesting point about the bright menus. I would
 be interested in researching that a bit further. But I agree that the
 background image, the flat theme, and the icons are pretty cool. Just
 wondering, who makes the decision of what gets packaged into the Ubuntu
 ship?

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Ken and Mark make the decisions. So far, the only thing that will
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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Matthew Nuzum
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't exactly understand what you mean by flat icons are tricky to
 implement.

There are a ton of icons. If you just want to make a subtle change you
can re-use the icons from another theme, but if you want to make a
radical change (like flat icons) then you need to make a bunch. This
takes a lot of ambition and a motivated *team* if you want to get it
done in a short time.

  Just
 wondering, who makes the decision of what gets packaged into the Ubuntu
 ship?

Don't set your goal to be a theme that ships with Ubuntu. Set your
goal to be a theme - or better, a theme that anyone can easily install
and use. If you want to do it get started and ask for assistance when
you get stuck. Some people on this list will help you overcome the
hurdle and you can move on to the next one.

The reason I say this is because the requirements for being included
on the CD are currently a moving target and poorly defined. (the only
thing we know is that Mark has to like it) Your chances of hitting it
are slim and you'll get frustrated and discouraged and give up.

However, the goal of creating a theme is absolutely achievable. You
can accomplish this. Aim for excellence and in so doing, you may come
up with something good enough to be included in the distro. But even
if you don't get on the cd at least you achieved your task and joined
the elite few who have tasted such glory.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Michael
Thanks for the heads up. I didn't understand the level of bureaucracy that
is involved to make improvements to Ubuntu. I'm just wondering, the only
difference I notice between updates is a background change. Why do we have
an art-group just for making a background?


On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 11:19 AM, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I don't exactly understand what you mean by flat icons are tricky to
  implement.

 There are a ton of icons. If you just want to make a subtle change you
 can re-use the icons from another theme, but if you want to make a
 radical change (like flat icons) then you need to make a bunch. This
 takes a lot of ambition and a motivated *team* if you want to get it
 done in a short time.

   Just
  wondering, who makes the decision of what gets packaged into the Ubuntu
  ship?

 Don't set your goal to be a theme that ships with Ubuntu. Set your
 goal to be a theme - or better, a theme that anyone can easily install
 and use. If you want to do it get started and ask for assistance when
 you get stuck. Some people on this list will help you overcome the
 hurdle and you can move on to the next one.

 The reason I say this is because the requirements for being included
 on the CD are currently a moving target and poorly defined. (the only
 thing we know is that Mark has to like it) Your chances of hitting it
 are slim and you'll get frustrated and discouraged and give up.

 However, the goal of creating a theme is absolutely achievable. You
 can accomplish this. Aim for excellence and in so doing, you may come
 up with something good enough to be included in the distro. But even
 if you don't get on the cd at least you achieved your task and joined
 the elite few who have tasted such glory.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/8/4 Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 There are a ton of icons. If you just want to make a subtle change you
 can re-use the icons from another theme, but if you want to make a
 radical change (like flat icons) then you need to make a bunch. This
 takes a lot of ambition and a motivated *team* if you want to get it
 done in a short time.


Personally I think the human-colors icons on gnome look by perfectska04 are
superior to the ones currently in use for ubuntu, I am sure I have heard
that
Canonical hired a professional design company to create those icons. I am
sure
that I have heard also that mark wants the current fisher price icons
because they
are synonymous with Ubuntu. So isn't the problem with creating community
icons
that as soon as they appear on gnome-look they are no longer synonymous with

the brand and will not be used?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Salane Ashcraft
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 2:00 PM, Michael Stephenson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/8/4 Matthew Nuzum [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 There are a ton of icons. If you just want to make a subtle change you
 can re-use the icons from another theme, but if you want to make a
 radical change (like flat icons) then you need to make a bunch. This
 takes a lot of ambition and a motivated *team* if you want to get it
 done in a short time.

 Personally I think the human-colors icons on gnome look by perfectska04 are
 superior to the ones currently in use for ubuntu, I am sure I have heard
 that
 Canonical hired a professional design company to create those icons. I am
 sure
 that I have heard also that mark wants the current fisher price icons
 because they
 are synonymous with Ubuntu.

 You could be right there - I think have confused in my mind the task
 of creating desktop icons and the separate task of creating
 notification area icons. It is the notification area icons that should
 be flat and there are far fewer. This task may be more manageable than
 I said.

 So isn't the problem with creating community
 icons
 that as soon as they appear on gnome-look they are no longer synonymous with
 the brand and will not be used?

 Well, Ubuntu is open source. There's no reason another distribution
 cannot take the Ubuntu icons and use them. (Although the ubuntu logo
 is governed by a trademark policy)

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Ken wants flat notification icons btw
also Canonical had Iconforge create the human icons. Mark wants new
icons, but also wants to retain our identity aka orange/brown.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] art concept

2008-08-04 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/8/4 Salane Ashcraft [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 also Canonical had Iconforge create the human icons. Mark wants new
 icons, but also wants to retain our identity aka orange/brown.


Well if that is the case then perhaps we can have a discussion on using the
human-colors icons by perfectska04
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3id=82562file1=82562-1.jpgfile2=82562-2.jpgfile3=82562-3.jpgname=GNOME-colors
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