[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2009-12-17 Thread Przemysław Kulczycki
** Changed in: baltix
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2009-09-20 Thread Michael B. Trausch
This bug is irrelevant now.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2008-03-27 Thread Neatchee
My apologies to anyone who got that last email.  Damn webapp sending out
emails to everyone on my gmail that I ever sent or received an email
from.  Gotta be more careful with these things :(

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-09-04 Thread Neatchee
Updated pidgin from 2.1.1-1ubuntu1 -- 2.1.1-2ubuntu2, and included a
patch to force the offline message emulation plugin to a lower priority,
thus preventing it from interfering with other plugins (like /exec).
Previously, OME would set the message content to NULL to early in the
handling order, and cause a segfault in slashexec if both plugins were
enabled.  Final versioning is 2.1.1-2ubuntu3~7.04prevu1 (we know this
isn't an official ubuntu version, but we wanted to delineate the fact
that this has the patch included, while preserving proper upgrading
prioritizing)

This update also splits the packages a bit differently.  If you use
finch, finch's development files, or the libpurple development files,
you will need to take the additional step of installing those three
packages: finch, finch-dev, and libpurple-dev, respectively.

We've also updated the purple-plugin-pack from the guifications plugins
team from 1.0 -- 2.1.1 (the coincidence of the versioning is not lost
on us).  An additional patch was added (bringing it up to a self-
versioned 2.1.1-2~7.04prevu1) which stops slashexec from causing a
segfault, even if it receives a NULL content message.  For a full list
of updates, you can visit the guifications page at
http://plugins.guifications.org

It should be noted that an official backport doesn't seem likely at this
point.  We've had some conversations with people behind the scenes here,
and there are some...concerns.  Mostly it seems they don't want to do
the work involved with updating all the related packages (nautilus-
sendto, etc, even though we've done all of the work we could find to do
on related packages), but there's also an issue of trust.  We're not
known to the packaging team, and therefor aren't assumed as a
trustworthy backporting team.

if you'd like to see our work supported in an official capacity, let the
good people at canonical know that our packages are safe, breakage-free,
and complete :)

As usual, all of this can be found over at http://www.trausch.us/pidgin

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-08-27 Thread Neatchee
We've updated our repo with Pidgin 2.1.1 for Feisty.  Again,
instructions can be found at www.trausch.us/pidgin on how to use our
repo, or build these backports yourself.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-08-16 Thread Jo Vermeulen
I tried the package and it seems to work fine for me. My settings have
been successfully imported.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-08-16 Thread Jo Vermeulen
Hmm, I just noticed nautilius-sendto still says Instant Message
(Gaim), which probably should be replaced by Instant Message (Pidgin)
...

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-08-16 Thread Neatchee
The nautilus-sendto issue isn't something we would work on.  Submit a
bug report (report à la bug) to the nautilus-sendto developers :)

By request, we've also included pidgin-sipe in our repo, which adds
support for the IM features of SIP/E.  As I understand it, the protocol
also works with Live Communication Server messaging.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-08-16 Thread Neatchee
leps wrote:
 Hi guys, I was able to build pidgin no problem but I couldn't really figure
 out how to get the gaim-otr package to work.  Did anyone else get it working
 with pidgin?  I guess it would be pidgin-otr now.

 On 8/16/07, Neatchee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 The nautilus-sendto issue isn't something we would work on.  Submit a
 bug report (report à la bug) to the nautilus-sendto developers :)

 By request, we've also included pidgin-sipe in our repo, which adds
 support for the IM features of SIP/E.  As I understand it, the protocol
 also works with Live Communication Server messaging.

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If you are using our repository, you should simply do sudo apt-get
install pidgin-otr and restart pidgin, Off-the-Record Messaging should
appear in the list of plugins.  After that, you're getting into actual
configuration of OTR, for which you can find help all over the interwebs :)

If you're NOT using our repository, then you should be XD  Haha, just
kidding.  We included instructions on our website
(www.trausch.us/pidgin) for building OTR successfully for Pidgin.  It
requires a few tweaks to the build-deps but it works just fine.  If you
want detailed instructions on how to get OTR 3.1.0 working (since Gutsy
repos still only have 3.0.0), feel free to email us (as this isn't
really a build-help forum).

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-08-16 Thread Neatchee
Jo Vermeulen wrote:
 Hmm, I just noticed nautilius-sendto still says Instant Message
 (Gaim), which probably should be replaced by Instant Message (Pidgin)
 ...

   
Just updated the repo with a new version of nautilus-sendto.  Though
this version is still technically unstable i did some looking over it
and the only changes that were made shouldn't cause any problems.  It
adds official support for Pidgin (instead of just applying a few patches
to make it work), and adds support for gnome-bluetooth.  It also
includes the ubuntu patch which adds some dependency parameters, fixes a
bug with Thunderbird integration, and a few other things.  See the
changelog for full details.

This should also fix it to say Pidgin instead of Gaim when using
sendto :)

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-08-16 Thread Neatchee
Jo Vermeulen wrote:
 Hmm, I just noticed nautilius-sendto still says Instant Message
 (Gaim), which probably should be replaced by Instant Message (Pidgin)
 ...

   
Ok, scratch that.  Apparently the package is thoroughly broken.  Taking
it off the repo.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-08-16 Thread Neatchee
Brian Resnik wrote:
 Jo Vermeulen wrote:
   
 Hmm, I just noticed nautilius-sendto still says Instant Message
 (Gaim), which probably should be replaced by Instant Message (Pidgin)
 ...

   
 
 Ok, scratch that.  Apparently the package is thoroughly broken.  Taking
 it off the repo.

   

Problem solved.  Two references to the function gaim_debug_info were
left unchanged.  They should have been changed to purple_debug_info. 
Patched, rebuilt, and reuploaded.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-08-01 Thread Neatchee
Trausch and I have updated packages available on his website for Pidgin
2.1.0  We have i386 and AMD64 packages available, along with a plethora
of plugins.  You can grab them from http://www.trausch.us/pidgin (see
below for more information on what packages are done)

In an attempt to get this moving towards an official backport I'm going
to try and get a handle on where we are with all related packages that
have been presented in this bug report...

Packages built and tested for i386 and AMD64 (available at
http://www.trausch.us/pidgin):

   pidgin, pidgin-data, pidgin-dev, pidgin-dbg, libotr2, libotr2-dev,
pidgin-otr, pidgin-guifications, pidgin-extprefs, pidgin-hotkeys,
purple-plugin-pack, pidgin-blinklight, pidgin-lrvp, pidgin-libnotify,
nautilus-sendto, gaim-xfire

**Notes -
1. Many of these packages also have accompanying dummy transitional 
packages.
2. nautilus-sendto was compiled from a source build that is in testing, but 
awaiting upload to the Debian FTP (at which point it will move to stable), with 
an additional patch for transition from gaim to pidgin
3. gaim-xfire is built from the most recent snapshot available at 
http://gfire.sourceforge.net/snapshots/  It has not been thoroughly tested, but 
works cleanly as far as I can tell.

Packages that have been abandoned by their maintainer:

  gaim-autoprofile, festival-gaim, gaim-xmms-remote (only activity in
the past 289 was to move the newest version from testing to stable, but
this package still does not support pidgin, so I'm going to assume it's
abandoned unless I hear otherwise)

Other packages:

  gaim-encryption has been upgraded to pidgin-encryption and included in
gutsy, however our attempts to backport have been unsuccessful.  pidgin-
encryption requires libnspr4-dev to build (libnspr-dev fails), which in
turn requires libnss3-dev (libnss-dev fails), which conflicts with the
entire Feisty system pretty much (tries to remove gnome-desktop LOL).
If anyone can lend their expertise on this item, it would be
appreciated.

  gaim-irchelper has been merged into purple-plugin-pack

  gaim-themes has been merged into pidgin-data

  galago-gaim-feed is awaiting an update from the galago project team.
Currently there are two conflicting patches in the trac.  One patch
transitions the package to pidgin (though I haven't tested it, and upon
inspection, I'm skeptical of whether it works or not), while the other
patch is from Ubuntu and adds German language support and fixes a
timestamping problem.  These two patches do not work together, and the
galago team is due to update galago-gaim-feed soon anyway, based on
their update schedule.  Either way, I don't think there is very high
demand for this plugin, though I could be wrong, not to mention that
there is an Evolution integration plugin standard in pidgin now, so
galago seems a bit superfluous, unless people are using it with other
software.

  gnome-fifth-toe, meta-ul-desktop-base are package suites.  They are
empty packages that require a number of other packages.  Basically a
best of bundle.  All that's needed is for the maintainers of these
packages to change the dependencies from gaim to pidgin.

 pidgin-console, pidgin-consol-dev, and pidgin-console-data are all part
of pidgin and pidgin-data.  Simply run finch from a terminal.


That's about all I've got on this.  If anyone else has anything to add, please 
do, otherwise I'd like to get some input on what else needs to be done in order 
for this to be picked up as an official backport.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-08-01 Thread Neatchee
Trausch went to bed, and his website requires that all comments be
approved, so until he wakes up, here's where you can grab the i386 extra
plugins:
http://www.ansemreport.com/pidgin/pidgin-2.1.0-i386_extras.tar.bz2

gaim-xfire is now included in the extras plugin packages, so if you're
looking for it, that's where you'll find it.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-08-01 Thread Nico Laum
Hey Neatchee,

could you include http://code.google.com/p/musictracker/ in your extra
plugins tar?

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-08-01 Thread Neatchee
Music Tracker has been added to both extra plugin tarballs, as
requested.

The amd64 package has been tested on my own PC.  I don't have an i386
computer that I can test the package on (just one to build it on), so
let me know if it doesn't work.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-08-01 Thread Nico Laum
Thank you, i386 musictracker works fine...

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-08-01 Thread Neatchee
Scratch that request for help on pidgin-encryption  I'm just a little
slow and forgot to change some of the flags in debian/rules  We've now
got pidgin-encryption working as well.

In addition to the inclusion of these extra packages, Trausch and I have
also created an apt repository for all of our backports.  You'll be able
to get the following packages (i386, AMD64, and source):

pidgin
pidgin-blinklight
pidgin-data
pidgin-dbg
pidgin-dev
pidgin-encryption
pidgin-extprefs
pidgin-guifications
pidgin-hotkeys
pidgin-libnotify
pidgin-librvp
pidgin-otr
pidgin-plugin-pack
gaim-xfire--works with Pidgin, despite the gaim naming convention
libotr2
libotr2-bin
libotr2-dev
musictracker
nautilus-sendto
gaim (transitional)
gaim-extendedprefs (transitional)
gaim-guifications (transitional)
gaim-hotkeys (transitional)
gaim-irchelper (transitional)
gaim-libnotify (transitional)
gaim-thinklight (transitional)

To add our repository to your apt source.list, simply add the following
lines:

deb http://www.ansemreport.com/pidgin/repo feisty feisty-backports
deb-src http://www.ansemreport.com/pidgin/repo feisty feisty-backports

Please put these packages under the full stress test.  If we've done
something wrong in the packaging (which I can probably guarantee you we
have) let us know and we'll fix it.  The more testing we can do, the
higher the chances are of getting an official backport approved.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-07-24 Thread Ken Phillis Jr
I looked at the suggested list, and saw that two of the selections need a 
rewrite, which is...
galago-gaim-feed and meta-ul-desktop-base

as for more suggestions, how about the following, and also not forgetting to do 
pidgin version 2.0.2.
pidgin-console ( finch in other words )
pidgin-console-dbg ( debug version of finch. )
pidgin-console-dev ( development files for finch. )
pidgin-xfire ( svn release of code:  http://www.fryx.ch/xfire/ )

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-07-03 Thread Andrew Jorgensen
I'd like to interject that I don't think a simple backport of pidgin is
possible.  Yes, I know that it works fine - I'm using it myself - but
there are integration problems.  nautilus-sendto doesn't support pidgin
because it has different dbus paths than gaim, for instance.  There are
also a large number of plugins that need to be backported with pidgin.

If people really want a backport either an unofficial backport (as some
have already posted) or a backport which can be installed side-by-side
with gaim would be best.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-07-03 Thread Neatchee
While pidgin does not properly integrate with nautilus-sendto, this is
more of a convenience issue, isn't it?  I've installed nautilus-sendto
with pidgin, and while pidgin does not show up as a send-to option, it
does not otherwise break nautilus-sendto.  In addition, the
functionality is still there (i.e. you can still send files via Pidgin,
just not from a right-click menu).  Convenience may be lost, yes, but it
doesn't break anything.

I think a bigger concern is the fact that other plugins don't work
properly, such as pidgin-otr (the version of libotr2 and libotr2-bin
available in the feisty repos has a bug that makes it not work with
pidgin-otr.  This is fixed in the next version of libotr2, which is
still officially in testing [though I'm using it and it seems perfectly
stable])

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-30 Thread Lionel Porcheron
This bug is for getting informations for an official backport. This is
not a forum for backporting pidgin. Thanks!

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-29 Thread Michael Trausch
Eep!

Neatchee, those packages won't cleanly install as an upgrade—it's
missing the dummy package!

There should also be a gaim-2.0.2 package that has next to no bulk to it
whatsoever—it's a dummy compatibility/upgrade package for systems like
Feisty where gaim has to be replaced.  Do you have that to go along with
your packages, as well?

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-29 Thread Neatchee
Hey man.  The dummy package, gaim_2.0.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb, is available
from the Gutsy repos and works as-is as far as I'm aware.  No
backporting needed.  I can't even TRY to backport it because when prevu
tries to pull the source packages for the gaim transitional package,
it's referenced to the pidgin source package XD (see the bottom of this
page for what i'm talking about:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/gaim )

In short: you can use the same dummy upgrade package for amd64 feisty
that you would use for your other pidgin backports :)  Or you can link
people to this download page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-
bin/download.pl?arch=allfile=pool%2Fmain%2Fp%2Fpidgin%2Fgaim_2.0.2-0ubuntu1_all.debmd5sum=e680a30bdd9145f191dbe8518d348b3earch=alltype=main

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-29 Thread Michael Trausch
On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 14:40 +, Neatchee wrote:

 Hey man.  The dummy package, gaim_2.0.2-0ubuntu1_all.deb, is available
 from the Gutsy repos and works as-is as far as I'm aware.  No
 backporting needed.  I can't even TRY to backport it because when
 prevu
 tries to pull the source packages for the gaim transitional package,
 it's referenced to the pidgin source package XD (see the bottom of
 this
 page for what i'm talking about:
 http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/gaim ) 


I can do that.  I just feel more comfy taking everything that is built
together and using that, if you know what I mean.  :-)  When you build
the pidgin source package, you get gaim, pidgin, pidgin-data,
pidgin-dev, pidgin-dbg as output binary packages.  I can just include my
GAIM upgrade package with the distribution, and I will have it up later
today (I have to run out to do some errands, first).

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-29 Thread rageboy
I'm getting the impression from the comments on here that an official
backport in the repos isn't happening anytime soon?

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-29 Thread Michael Trausch
On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 16:55 +, rageboy wrote:

 I'm getting the impression from the comments on here that an official
 backport in the repos isn't happening anytime soon? 


AFAIK, there has been no mention of an official backport.

However, on my page I have:

http://www.trausch.us/pidgin - Instructions/links for installing Pidgin
from the packages that I have which have been backported from Gutsy.

The 32-bit version and OTR/Guifications plugins have been done by
myself; the 64-bit version was done by Neatchee.  The 32-bit version has
a script available for its installation; I did it that way because the
older 32-bit version that I did wasn't 100% backported, while everything
that is up there now is.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-28 Thread rageboy
I'd second but I'm not second. So I'll just say I want this too...only I
want 2.1.0 (which though it hasn't been released yet, probably will be
by the time this is implemented ;))

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-28 Thread Neatchee
Hey Mike, did you get that tarball for x64 that I sent you?  Want to
make sure that it came through alright.

Let me know if you need anything else built (I don't necessarily keep up
to date on Pidgin development)

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-28 Thread Michael Trausch
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 17:58 +, rageboy wrote:

 I'd second but I'm not second. So I'll just say I want this too...only
 I
 want 2.1.0 (which though it hasn't been released yet, probably will be
 by the time this is implemented ;)) 


Well, if/when 2.1.0 hits Gutsy I will update the packages on my web
site.

Or, if it doesn't and some time passes after it is released, I will
attempt to do the port to Feisty myself and see what happens.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-28 Thread Michael Trausch
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 18:51 +, Neatchee wrote:

 Hey Mike, did you get that tarball for x64 that I sent you?  Want to
 make sure that it came through alright.
 
 Let me know if you need anything else built (I don't necessarily keep
 up
 to date on Pidgin development)


Hrm.  It doesn't seem so... it didn't hit my spam folder, either.

Is there somewhere that you can upload it to and I can download it and
then put it up?

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-28 Thread Neatchee
No worries, boss!

Pidgin_2.0.2-0ubuntu1~7.04prevu1_amd64.deb  Pidgin-
data_2.0.2-0ubuntu1~7.04prevu1_amd64.deb, both required to build a basic
working install of Pidgin on AMD64 feisty.  Backported from Gutsy source
repositories using prevu.  Tarball:
http://www.ansemreport.com/neatchee/pidgin+pidgin-
data_2.0.2-0ubuntu1~7.04prevu1_amd64.tar

Pidgin-dev_2.0.2-0ubuntu1~7.04prevu1_amd64.deb  pidgin-
dbg_2.0.2-0ubuntu1~7.04prevu1_amd64.deb, required for compiling some
additional packages (such as Off the Record).  Backported from Gusty
srouces repositories using prevu.  Tarball:
http://www.ansemreport.com/neatchee/pidgin-dev+pidgin-
dbg_2.0.2-0ubuntu1~7.04prevu1_amd64.tar

I might recommend running a test install, since this is my first
backport XD

Basically I just downloaded the source for each package, made the
changes necessary to get it to successfully build on Feisty (in this
case, change all dependencies on libnss3 to just libnss), built the debs
using preview and installed.  The prevu-built debs are what you're
getting here.  That should be all that needs to be done, correct?
Unless you're going to add scripts to have it successfully replace Gaim
installations.  That's all you though :)

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-28 Thread Michael Trausch
On Thu, 2007-06-28 at 19:33 +, Neatchee wrote:

 Basically I just downloaded the source for each package, made the
 changes necessary to get it to successfully build on Feisty (in this
 case, change all dependencies on libnss3 to just libnss), built the
 debs
 using preview and installed.  The prevu-built debs are what you're
 getting here.  That should be all that needs to be done, correct?
 Unless you're going to add scripts to have it successfully replace
 Gaim
 installations.  That's all you though :) 


:-)

I have a script for the 32-bit version, but I only wrote that to update
from the previous version that I released that was broken (it used
checkinstall to do its work, and checkinstall doesn't do things in an
Ubuntu-compliant fashion).  New installs can just dpkg -i * and then
pull any deps manually, though I can easily modify my existing script to
do that for users.  It would probably be far easier to provide an apt
repo, but I can't figure out how to set that up with the amount of time
that I have available right now, so the script is the Right Thing.

I will download these and get them up within 24 hours.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-25 Thread Michael Trausch
I have a new 32-bit version on my site:  http://www.trausch.us/pidgin

All of the packages are now backported from Gutsy, and I have a shell
script that will manage the upgrade from my old checkinstall-generated
packages to the ones backported from Gutsy.  I can still do a 64-bit
version soonish; I am planning on doing it anyway, all I need to do is
install 64-bit Feisty onto another partition and build it there.

Questions/comments/concerns are welcome to be aired at my site.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-25 Thread Jamie Jackson
I ran it, and it seemed to work. Well, Pidgin still runs, anyway.

The installer just disappears at the end, though, and I think there might
have been some things that I missed. A pause at the end might be nice (and a
summary, even better).

Thanks for your efforts,

Jamie

On 6/25/07, Michael Trausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 All of the packages are now backported from Gutsy, and I have a shell
 script that will manage the upgrade from my old checkinstall-generated
 packages to the ones backported from Gutsy.  I can still do a 64-bit
 version soonish; I am planning on doing it anyway, all I need to do is
 install 64-bit Feisty onto another partition and build it there.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-25 Thread Michael Trausch
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 00:50 +, Neatchee wrote:

 If you want, I can send you the debs built for my amd64 build so you
 don't have to take the time.  Built with prevu from Gutsy sources
 pidgin
 and pidgin-data, changing all references of libnss3 to libnss 


That should work.  If you could e-mail them to me in a tar file, I can
get them up by tomorrow along with a script to automatically pull and
install them.

Unfortunately, I don't know quite how to do the APT repository dance,
and so I would be perfectly willing to contribute the binary packages
that I have (the src packages are available in the Feisty src tree) to
someone that has an APT repo or is willing to create one.

Incidentally, what is the status of the official backport to Feisty?
Are there plans for one?  It works quite well, and would be far better
for everyone if they were added to feisty-backports.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-20 Thread Mahdi
Very good.
Are there any amd64 builds avaiable other than getdeb's? Their version do not 
seem to be very clean (i.e.: do not replace gaim with a dummy pkg).
Does pidgin have any BIG change, or important feature not in Feisty's gaim?

[]z

M.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-20 Thread Michael Trausch
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 12:30 +, Mahdi wrote:

 Very good.
 Are there any amd64 builds avaiable other than getdeb's? Their version
 do not seem to be very clean (i.e.: do not replace gaim with a dummy
 pkg).
 Does pidgin have any BIG change, or important feature not in Feisty's
 gaim? 


It has hundreds of bugfixes, though I don't know if any of the AMD64
GAIM bugs are fixed.  I might be able to build an AMD64 version, though,
at some point.  I reverted to 32-bit Ubuntu because the 64-bit system
was fine overall, but GAIM crashed a LOT—which I couldn't deal with.

I can try making 64-bit packages later today.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-20 Thread Jamie Jackson
Hi Mike,

I've have installed from repos (via apt) and have installed from source
before. However, I haven't done much, if anything in-between (which this
seems to be). Once this stuff gets in the repos, will I automatically get
updates, etc. (as opposed to when I install from source)?

BTW, here's a step-by-step for noobs (like me), because it took me a little
while to figure out how to do it. I'd post it in your site's comments, but
the comments are closed.

Thanks,
Jamie

sudo apt-get install libmeanwhile1 libavahi-compat-howl0
cd ~
wget http://www.trausch.us/wp-content/uploads/pidgin-feisty.tar
mkdir pidgin-feisty
cd pidgin-feisty
tar xvf ../pidgin-feisty.tar
sudo dpkg -i ./*


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 On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 02:05 +, Jamie Jackson wrote:

  Any guess as to when this might be available? I'm trying to weigh my
  options...


 I don't know when there will be an official backport... however, I do
 have a package available (well, packages) available from
 http://www.trausch.us/pidgin/ where you can download a tarball with
 Pidgin 2.0.1 packages.  Included in the tarball are the following:

 - gaim_2.0.1-1_all.deb: dummy upgrade package to satisfy the
 ubuntu-desktop dependency.
 - pidgin-data_2.0.1-1_all.deb - replaces gaim-data (backported from
 Gutsy, then updated to 2.0.1 from upstream)
 - pidgin_2.0.1-1_i386.deb - replaces gaim (backported from Gutsy, then
 updated to 2.0.1 from upstream)
 - pidgin-guifications_2.14-1_i386.deb - Guifications plugin (built w/
 checkinstall with upstream tarball)
 - libotr_3.0.0-1_i386.deb - OTR library (built w/ checkinstall with
 upstream tarball)
 - pidgin-otr_3.0.0-1_i386.deb - OTR plugin (built w/ checkinstall with
 upstream tarball)

 The packages that are built with checkinstall will require that you
 uninstall the previous ones, if necessary (that is, you have to manually
 uninstall gaim-guifications, libotr, and gaim-otr from the Feisty system
 if you have them; they were not available from the Gutsy repo when I
 built Pidgin, though I can try to come up with the time tomorrow to make
 cleaner packages if necessary).  However, DO NOT UNINSTALL GAIM, as the
 gaim/pidgin-data/pidgin packages will cleanly replace their Feisty
 counterparts.

 There seems to be two added dependencies, that you must fetch from the
 repositories: libmeanwhile1 and libavahi-compat-howl0, both of which can
 be installed from the repositories.  libavahi-compat-howl0 is in
 Universe, while libmeanwhile1 is in Main.

 A note worth mentioning:  While I have been using these packages since I
 built them on May 29 without issue, I am not supporting the packages
 actively.  I am certainly willing to try to help with issues related
 directly to them, but I don't have a great deal of time due to school
 and all.  I can be reached by Internet mail if there are any questions.
 I don't know how to go about getting anything done in the backports
 system, though, so this is about the best that I know how to, and can,
 do for now.  Of course, 2.0.2 is out now, and I hear that 2.1.0 is
 coming soonish.  If I have extra time I will update my packages to
 2.0.2.  And no, I don't have a repository setup, because I haven't had
 the time to figure out how to do all that yet, and I only expect to be
 keeping up with Pidgin until they are able to backport it.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-20 Thread Michael Trausch
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 21:33 +, Jamie Jackson wrote:

 I've have installed from repos (via apt) and have installed from
 source
 before. However, I haven't done much, if anything in-between (which
 this
 seems to be). Once this stuff gets in the repos, will I automatically
 get
 updates, etc. (as opposed to when I install from source)?
 
 BTW, here's a step-by-step for noobs (like me), because it took me a
 little
 while to figure out how to do it. I'd post it in your site's comments,
 but
 the comments are closed. 


Sorry, I was going to get to it and I just got lost in all of the other
things going on.  I put your stuff up on the page, so it is now
accessible.  Thanks!

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-19 Thread Jamie Jackson
Any guess as to when this might be available? I'm trying to weigh my
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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-19 Thread Michael Trausch
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 02:05 +, Jamie Jackson wrote:

 Any guess as to when this might be available? I'm trying to weigh my
 options...


I don't know when there will be an official backport... however, I do
have a package available (well, packages) available from
http://www.trausch.us/pidgin/ where you can download a tarball with
Pidgin 2.0.1 packages.  Included in the tarball are the following:

 - gaim_2.0.1-1_all.deb: dummy upgrade package to satisfy the
ubuntu-desktop dependency.
 - pidgin-data_2.0.1-1_all.deb - replaces gaim-data (backported from
Gutsy, then updated to 2.0.1 from upstream)
 - pidgin_2.0.1-1_i386.deb - replaces gaim (backported from Gutsy, then
updated to 2.0.1 from upstream)
 - pidgin-guifications_2.14-1_i386.deb - Guifications plugin (built w/
checkinstall with upstream tarball)
 - libotr_3.0.0-1_i386.deb - OTR library (built w/ checkinstall with
upstream tarball)
 - pidgin-otr_3.0.0-1_i386.deb - OTR plugin (built w/ checkinstall with
upstream tarball)

The packages that are built with checkinstall will require that you
uninstall the previous ones, if necessary (that is, you have to manually
uninstall gaim-guifications, libotr, and gaim-otr from the Feisty system
if you have them; they were not available from the Gutsy repo when I
built Pidgin, though I can try to come up with the time tomorrow to make
cleaner packages if necessary).  However, DO NOT UNINSTALL GAIM, as the
gaim/pidgin-data/pidgin packages will cleanly replace their Feisty
counterparts.

There seems to be two added dependencies, that you must fetch from the
repositories: libmeanwhile1 and libavahi-compat-howl0, both of which can
be installed from the repositories.  libavahi-compat-howl0 is in
Universe, while libmeanwhile1 is in Main.

A note worth mentioning:  While I have been using these packages since I
built them on May 29 without issue, I am not supporting the packages
actively.  I am certainly willing to try to help with issues related
directly to them, but I don't have a great deal of time due to school
and all.  I can be reached by Internet mail if there are any questions.
I don't know how to go about getting anything done in the backports
system, though, so this is about the best that I know how to, and can,
do for now.  Of course, 2.0.2 is out now, and I hear that 2.1.0 is
coming soonish.  If I have extra time I will update my packages to
2.0.2.  And no, I don't have a repository setup, because I haven't had
the time to figure out how to do all that yet, and I only expect to be
keeping up with Pidgin until they are able to backport it.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-11 Thread Sean \Diggity\ O'Brien
I'd also like to see the extra Gaim packages backported and renamed for
Pidgin. Is this possible, or will these just not work with Pidgin? I
know that pidgin-libnotify and pidgin-guifications are at least
available on http://getdeb.net, and they work fine with Pidgin in my
Feisty install.

gaim-autoprofile
gaim-encryption
gaim-extendedprefs
gaim-guifications
gaim-hotkeys
gaim-irchelper
gaim-libnotify
gaim-otr
gaim-themes
gaim-thinklight
gaim-xmms-remote

It would also be nice to see packages related to Gaim updated to work with 
Pidgin:
festival-gaim
galago-gaim-feed
nautilus-sendto

And does anyone know if Beagle packages need to be updated to index
Pidgin logs?

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-11 Thread Philip A. Marshall
http://developer.pidgin.im/roadmap will let you see which bugs have been
closed against future releases...  Don't put too much stock in the open
bugs though, some of them get pushed back if they can't meet the
deadline.

2.1.0 will be the next big upgrade and only 3 weeks away, so it
probably doesn't particularly matter which version is in the repository
version until then.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-08 Thread Philip A. Marshall
2.0.2 will be out next week...

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-08 Thread Michael Trausch
Is there a way to view the changelog before release?  Or will I have to
wait for the release to see what is in it?  I have no clue how to use
the SCM system that they are using.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-07 Thread Nico Laum
It should definitely be 2.0.1 which should be backported. But it's not
yet in the repos...

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-07 Thread Michael Trausch
Is there a way that I can send my 2.0.1 sources that I built to Ubuntu
for integration/inspection?  I could do that.  The plugins, however, are
not even debianized, and the last time that I checked, they were not
available from Gutsy’s source repository, either.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-06 Thread Michael Trausch
I backported Pidgin 2.0.0 from the Gusty repo, and then updated it to
2.0.1, and built it along with OTR and Guifications (the two major
external plugins that I use). The Pidgin packages are from Gusty's
source and built (after being updated to Pidgin 2.0.1) and the OTR and
Guifications packages were done with checkinstall because I couldn't
figure out how to debianize them properly. They are all available in a
tarball on my site though, at http://www.trausch.us/pidgin/ if anyone is
interested. The packages in the tar file will drop into an IA32 Feisty
system. I have not had any issues with these binaries as of yet, and I
have been using them for a little bit now.

Note that while I am happy to provide the binaries to the entire world,
I can't offer support for them; use them at your own risk if you choose
to use them at all.  But, it worked out with some minor tweaks to the
build-deps in the Pidgin package, and it had been working for me since I
built and installed it, so it seems good.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-06-06 Thread John Dong

ah,  how cool, I'll look more at this tomorrow and make a decision by the
end of the week.

On 5/29/07, Mikael Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



If you replace libnss3-dev with libnss-dev in the pidgin Build-Depends,
you don't need an updated eds.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-29 Thread John Dong

I am currently analyzing if the eds dependency will have any negative
consequences. Otherwise, it should be good for backporting. We will handle
the plugins after the backport of pidgin is complete.
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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-29 Thread Mikael Eriksson
On Tue, May 29, 2007 at 07:21:56PM -, John Dong wrote:
 I am currently analyzing if the eds dependency will have any negative
 consequences. Otherwise, it should be good for backporting. We will handle
 the plugins after the backport of pidgin is complete.

If you replace libnss3-dev with libnss-dev in the pidgin Build-Depends,
you don't need an updated eds.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-28 Thread wlx
any reason to not backport this package?

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-28 Thread Mahdi
I guess it should be backported as fast as possible.
Feisty is a final (stable) release, and the amount of beta packages on it 
should be minimized. And since gaim is no longer mantained (only pidgin), it 
sould be a good idea to backport the latest stable release it to get upstream 
support (and also a more stable version).

I don't think we should wait for all the plugins to be released for
pidgin since most of the people doesn't use any of them at all or only 2
or 3 (like guifications and extended prefs). Anyway, I think most of the
users will be happy only with plain pidgin. And i really think some of
the plugins will now be discontinued. And finally I don't consider not
backporting some plugins a package breakage. All those plugins are
recommends or suggests, not depends. Anyone who really needs a certain
not-backported plugin should stick to gaim anyway.

I guess backporting pidgin to feisty is only a matter of removing gaim
from ubuntu-desktop (or changing it to gaim | pidgin) and repackaging
it. Some upgrades might be necessary but i think people are already
working on that.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-28 Thread matt nicholson
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On 5/28/07, Mahdi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I guess it should be backported as fast as possible.
 Feisty is a final (stable) release, and the amount of beta packages on it
 should be minimized. And since gaim is no longer mantained (only pidgin),
 it sould be a good idea to backport the latest stable release it to get
 upstream support (and also a more stable version).

 I don't think we should wait for all the plugins to be released for
 pidgin since most of the people doesn't use any of them at all or only 2
 or 3 (like guifications and extended prefs). Anyway, I think most of the
 users will be happy only with plain pidgin. And i really think some of
 the plugins will now be discontinued. And finally I don't consider not
 backporting some plugins a package breakage. All those plugins are
 recommends or suggests, not depends. Anyone who really needs a certain
 not-backported plugin should stick to gaim anyway.

 I guess backporting pidgin to feisty is only a matter of removing gaim
 from ubuntu-desktop (or changing it to gaim | pidgin) and repackaging
 it. Some upgrades might be necessary but i think people are already
 working on that.


acctually, when building pedgin in prevu, a gaim*deb is generated, for the
sole purpose of allowing upgrades. since ubuntu-desktop depends on gaim, and
the new gaim package is nothing , or than depending on pidgin (well it
cleans up some things i think), the upgrade path is clean, and doesn't
require ubuntu-desktop etc to be rebuilt.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-27 Thread Philip A. Marshall
Pidgin has been in Gutsy for a while now.

There are now several sources to get unofficial .debs from third party
sources.  That's a potential security risk, because theres no way of
ensuring the content of the package.  However, people seem to want it
badly enough that they'll happily sudo away to install it.  Also,
version 2.0.1 is already out.  Backporting this to Feisty is probably a
good idea.

At least make it easier to uninstall gaim.  As it is now, people are
breaking packages trying to get rid of it.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-27 Thread Mantas Kriaučiūnas
** Also affects: Baltix
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: Unconfirmed

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-18 Thread Lionel Porcheron
We should consider all the reverse dependencies before backporting:
  gaim-autoprofile
  gaim-data
  gaim-dbg
  gaim-dev
  gaim-encryption
  gaim-extendedprefs
  gaim-guifications
  gaim-hotkeys
  gaim-irchelper
  gaim-otr
  gaim-themes
  gaim-thinklight
  galago-gaim-feed
 |gnome-fifth-toe
  meta-ul-desktop-base
  nautilus-sendto

Some of this plugins have now the equivalent for pidgin, but this is not
the case for all. We should not break anything (no plugins) with this
backport. I think we should wait for all plugins to be released for
pidgin.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-14 Thread KB
Forgive my possible ignorance, but wouldn't the easiest way to install
it, seeing it's in the gutsy repo's and all, be like this?

sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.pidginbackup
sudo sed -i 's/^deb \([^ ]*\) feisty\(-security\|-updates\|\) \([a-z ]*\)$/deb 
\1 gutsy\2 \3/' /etc/apt/sources.list
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get -y install gaim
sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list.pidginbackup /etc/apt/sources.list
sudo apt-get update

If it works in feisty, this oughta install the new gaim transitional
package and therefore pidgin and all its dependencies. I'm a bit too
scared to do it on my laptop, but maybe somebody knows any potential
dangers or can deem it safe?

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-14 Thread KB
So, i held my breath and went to try it. It complained about not having
gaim's dependency pidgin in the repos (turns out dk.archive.ubuntu.com
isn't quite up-to-date with gutsy). Then when i changed it to use a
different mirror that had it, it said the same. So i tried to install
pidgin directly (without the -y flag, to see what it offered first), but
it gave me a huge load of dependencies that it wanted to install but
couldn't. So much for that idea. Sorry for taking your time with a
stupid attempt, but i guess some people might learn from it.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-12 Thread Bishiboosh
same results here, same comments...

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-12 Thread Luca Falavigna
If libebook1.2-9 is present:
b/i/r with prevu
+1 feisty

If not:
 - Considering build-dep libebook1.2-dev
   - Trying libebook1.2-dev
   - Cannot install libebook1.2-dev; apt errors follow:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libebook1.2-dev: Depends: libebook1.2-9 (= 1.10.1-0ubuntu1) but it is not 
going to be installed
  libnss3-dev: Depends: libnspr4-dev (= 1.8.0.10-3ubuntu1) but it is not going 
to be installed
E: Broken packages
E: Could not satisfy build-dependency.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-11 Thread matt nicholson
Just tried in prevu now that pidgin hit the repos, fails with:

 - Considering build-dep libebook1.2-dev
   - Trying libebook1.2-dev
   - Cannot install libebook1.2-dev; apt errors follow:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  libebook1.2-dev: Depends: libebook1.2-9 (= 1.10.1-0ubuntu1) but it is not 
going to be installed
  libnss3-dev: Depends: libnspr4-dev (= 1.8.0.10-3ubuntu1) but it is not going 
to be installed
E: Broken packages
E: Could not satisfy build-dependency.


I built it from source (well, not ubuntu source, but the orig source fine, so 
i'm going to take a few looks around and see what can be done about this.)

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-11 Thread matt nicholson
after successfully backporting evolution-data-server (see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/feisty-backports/+bug/114031), pidgin built
without a hitch in prevu, and is running without a problem on my
workstation right now. it even provides a gaim meta/transition package
to help the upgrade path.

b/i/r +1

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-11 Thread zenrox
must build evolution-data-server (see 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/feisty-backports/+bug/114031) first
then re init prevu
then b/i/r under prevu
+1 feisty

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-11 Thread Nico Laum
Same here
b/i/r +1

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-11 Thread Mikael Eriksson
The gutsy package builds fine in feisty if you replace the libnss3-dev
with libnss-dev in the build-deps.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-11 Thread Scott Sweeny
b/i/r in prevu
+1 for feisty 

the need to backport eds gives me doubts about if this will ever be done
officially.

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-06 Thread zenrox
this should be marked as needs info so people feel a little hope

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-05 Thread Bishiboosh
It would be cool actually to have it :)

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[Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-04 Thread John Dong
Hold your horses man, packages haven't even been uploaded to Debian
Experimental yet! When things settle and we get an upload in Ubuntu, I
will take a look. I've already begun to play a bit with Debian SVN
packaging. It looks promising and backportable when it comes out.

Please reopen this bug report when Ubuntu Gutsy gets an upload.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-04 Thread Stephen Seplowitz
Sorry to be so preemptive, I guess; I just wanted to get the idea out
there. Thanks for looking/the vote of confidence.

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Re: [Bug 112511] Re: Backport Pidgin 2.0.0 Final to Fiesty

2007-05-04 Thread Zachary Stern

Second! Good luck with that.

On 5/5/07, Stephen Seplowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sorry to be so preemptive, I guess; I just wanted to get the idea out
there. Thanks for looking/the vote of confidence.

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