Re: 12.04.1 ISO Testing

2012-08-21 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
Thanks everyone who has already helped with the testing! I saw some 
great bugs being found and worked -- on upgrades and inside the 
installer. Excellent work! If you've not yet submitted a result, 
consider executing a testcase that still needs to be run.


victor.zhou
jibel
fabiomarconi
psivaa
jr
smartboyhw
lbsolost
carla-sella
stgraber
patrickdk
claudio.arseni
liquidplay
jjfrv8-gmail
mcblackmar02
len-ovenwerks
fabrizioorsini
kitterman
luigitanese
bturner01
alessiogrossosgarrillo
kanliot

We still have need of someone who can help with the amd64+mac images
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds/21390/testcases
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds/21400/testcases

Sadly I don't have hardware here to help out with this :-( If you have 
hardware and are able to help, consider submitting a result. Thanks 
everyone!


Nicholas

On 08/21/2012 03:20 AM, Nio Wiklund wrote:

On 2012-08-21 03:37, Karl Anliot wrote:

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Nio Wiklund nio.wikl...@gmail.com wrote:

 A
couple of weeks ago I failed to install Lubuntu 12.04 from the live CD
into a 512 MB RAM computer of a friend.

The graphical installer really shouldn't be locking up on 512MB, it
should be erroring out instead.  The problem is, the lockups aren't
consistent, unless you use the manual partitioning.

This is a severe problem, especially for 1st time users.  I've filed a bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1038248


Thanks for the tips Karl,

If I remember correctly it was an early 64-bit AMD processor, and it ran
beautifully live with Lubuntu 64 bit.

I tried also to install directly without first booting the live desktop.
I had done manual partitioning before using gparted, still no go until I
used the alternate CD.

Best regards
Nio



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Cadence Testing -- my thoughts on how the cycle has gone

2012-08-21 Thread Nicholas Skaggs

I know, lots of emails today -- it's quite a week to be in QA :-)

We've been chatting on and off via the list about this idea of cadence 
testing, and the struggles we've hit. I wanted to share my thoughts and 
ideas on what's gone right and what's gone wrong with cadence testing 
this cycle.


http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/08/the-grand-cadence-experiment.html

Secondly, I want to say a big thank you to everyone who participated in 
these cadence testing events. They were a mass of confusion and pain for 
you, I know. We learned many things from executing the events, and I'm 
proud to say together we achieved what was asked of us. Going forward 
however, I'd like us to continue the conversation of bringing in value 
and being a larger part of the release process. My goal is to keep you 
informed about what's going on so that can happen. We'll keep iterating 
forward!


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Re: [Lubuntu-qa] Cadence Testing -- my thoughts on how the cycle has gone

2012-08-21 Thread Karl Anliot
your sentences are too long.  Why no talk good?

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[ubuntu-in] A nice feel good story with Ubuntu and Linux playing a good part

2012-08-21 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Hi

Just came across this story of Mayank Sharma also known as geekybodhi.

Am wondering if he is / (you are) on this list or have being in and
around the irc channels.

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Article and link is below


http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2012/08/after-complete-memory-loss-mayank-gets.html

After Complete Memory Loss, Mayank Gets It Back Using Internet and Linux

The Times of India, an Indian newspaper featured a story today about a
young man who lost his memory because of a chronic disease and then
how he gets it back Using Linux, Internet and other modern gadgets and
services.

The story was on front page and it caught my attention when I got hold
of the newspaper in the morning. Below is a summary:

Rakesh Sharma, a New Delhi resident, gets a new Intel Pentium 166MHz
desktop PC in 1997. Together with his two sons Mayank and Shashank, he
installs Linux on it.

Life was going good for them but unfortunately in 2009 Mayank was
diagnosed with tubercular meningitis (TBM), an infection of the
central nervous system. By the end of January 2010, Mayank had lost
his memory.

After recovering from the disease, Mayank still couldn't remember
anything. He was told he was a technology writer by profession,
published in several international magazines.

Mayank decided that he will do anything to relearn everything and find
clues to know who he was.

His father and brother taught him to read and write. Then he started
off with mobile T9 dictionary that taught him new words. He downloaded
and watched BBC radio programmes on pronunciation and grammar.

He had a Linux computer to play with. He Google'd himself and
discovered articles he had written for various publications, such as
Linux. com, IBM developerWorks and many others. He found couple of
books he has authored for a UK-based publisher on Google Books.

Then he searched for his username, 'geekybodhi' that showed him all
comments he had posted on forums.

Gmail and Facebook were his next stop. He searched into more than 9000
emails and chat logs on Gmail, found his personal and professional
contacts and got to know more about himself. On Facebook he connected
with his old friends specially using 'People You May Know' feature. He
created a Facebook Page called 'Help me build my Memory Palace', where
his friends wrote about him.

Next he finds his Flickr page only to rekindle his passion for photography.

Apart from these websites he also used old CDs, Linux ebooks, Youtube,
Wikipedia, Twitter etc. to get his memory back.

Today he uses Ubuntu on his computer and Ubuntu's cloud storage
service, Ubuntu One to put up links on his website. On his blog, he
writes about Linux, Ubuntu, Wayland, Gnome 3, XFCE, Debian, Fedora
etc.

Some of his comments, taken from The Times of India article:

My family has helped tremendously in my recovery. We still have that
166MHz desktop. When I saw that computer, I recalled some of the
details about the day when we first got it, and the Linux OS that we
were trying to install.

I had to relearn everything like a new-born. Chronologically, I am 29,
but if you ask me I feel no older than a three-year-old - except that
I have the ability to articulate my experience.

Be it the exhaustive threads hashing out articles and book edits with
my editors, or sending out music recommendations to friends, every
email tells me something about myself in my own words.

Without Facebook, I can't imagine connecting with the people I have
connected with. Even if I dug up old phonebooks, how would I reach out
to batch mates in Manchester and California or my editors, former and
current, in USA and England?

Since I didn't know the roads, I used OpenStreetMaps to find my way
around. I now record my GPS tracks too.

Wikipedia was invaluable in finding out more about any subject. And
its See also section points you to other related topics, giving
context.

I had KeePassX set up on my computer which remembered all my old
usernames and passwords, making it easy to log into services. I now
use LastPass for the same purpose.

Apart from helping me in being more creative with my words, I use
Twitter to connect with neurologists from around the world.
Thanks to The Times of India


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[ubuntu-in] Libre office language dictionaries etc site (where they are available is linked)

2012-08-21 Thread Ramnarayan.K
Hi

Just in case people are searching for language dictionaries (avaible as
extensions) for libreoffice they are available here
http://libreoffice-na.us/English-3.5-installs/dictionary.html

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[ubuntu-uk] Global Jam in Coventry?

2012-08-21 Thread Martin Meredith
Hi all,

Looking to see if it's worthwhile setting up a Global Jam session in
Coventry ...

Who'd be interested in this ? (September 7th through 9th)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Global Jam in Coventry?

2012-08-21 Thread Dave Morley
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 Looking to see if it's worthwhile setting up a Global Jam session
 in Coventry ...
 
 Who'd be interested in this ? (September 7th through 9th)
 
 
I'm up for that :)

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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Global Jam 2012 - London

2012-08-21 Thread Alan Pope

Hi all,

I've got agreement from Canonical to use a room in our London office for 
the Global Jam between 7th and 9th September.


http://www.londontown.com/LondonInformation/Shopping/Blue_Fin_Building/edb5/

I'd like us to do maybe two of the three days, possibly Friday and 
Saturday or Saturday and Sunday, and need to see which days are most 
popular. If people are keen to do all three days then I will have to 
find another Canonical employee to escort people on that day.


What I need to know though is how many people would be up for coming and 
on what days. I need this so I can choose the right day, make sure we 
have the right size room booked and inform security.


I will confirm with you all nearer the time, so think of this as a 
tentative way to gauge which day is most po


http://doodle.com/6vcb8a6rcgcewhf6

Just click the above link, put in your name and tell me which day you'd 
prefer to come. We can talk about the details of what happens at the jam 
on this list.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Global Jam 2012 - London

2012-08-21 Thread Alan Pope

On 21/08/12 14:53, Alan Pope wrote:

I will confirm with you all nearer the time, so think of this as a
tentative way to gauge which day is most po



..pular..


http://doodle.com/6vcb8a6rcgcewhf6




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Re: Ubuntu Studio precise pangolin 12.04.1 RCs on ISO tracker

2012-08-21 Thread Ho Wan Chan
Hi guys.

We really need some assistance in testing for the Ubuntu Studio 12.04.1 RC
images.

I saw in the ISO QA Tracker [0] today and I found that only me and
len-ovenwerks (len-dt on Freenode) have tested the Ubuntu Studio images
till today. This is not enough to build a strong report. We need more
people to ensure the build is bug-free before we release it on 23/8/2013. :)

If you do have time, please help to test the ISO images before releasing in
Thursday. Report your results in the ISO QA Tracker. We don't enforce you
to help, but by testing it you would have helped the Ubuntu Studio team an
awful lot.

We need your support. :)

Please go to the Freenode IRC channels listed in [1] to find support on
testing.

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw @ Freenode)

[0] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds
[1]: #ubuntu-qa, #ubuntustudio and #ubuntustudio-devel on irc.freenode.net

2012/8/19 Janne Jokitalo astralj...@kapsi.fi

 Hi,

 we once again need your assistance on the release candidates of our first
 point
 release of precise pangolin, 12.04.1. The testing is tracked on the ISO
 tracker
 [0], and as usual, we have the dvd image for both archs (i386 and amd64).

 If you have time, please help us make sure the images are of the usual
 ubuntu
 quality. :) Should you have questions or problems, please do not hesitate
 to
 voice them by responding to this email, or on the IRC chatrooms [1].

 Looking forward to your contributions, huge thanks in advance!

 [0]: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds
 [1]: #ubuntustudio and #ubuntustudio-devel on irc.freenode.net


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Re: Ubuntu Studio precise pangolin 12.04.1 RCs on ISO tracker

2012-08-21 Thread Stuart McQuade
I actually downloaded the ISO yesterday and am intending to test it tomorrow. 
If you didn't see my download, does this mean I took it from the wrong place?

I used this link: 
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/precise/dvd/20120818/precise-dvd-i386.iso


Stuart

On 21 Aug 2012, at 15:28, Ho Wan Chan wrote:

 Hi guys.
  
 We really need some assistance in testing for the Ubuntu Studio 12.04.1 RC 
 images.
  
 I saw in the ISO QA Tracker [0] today and I found that only me and 
 len-ovenwerks (len-dt on Freenode) have tested the Ubuntu Studio images till 
 today. This is not enough to build a strong report. We need more people to 
 ensure the build is bug-free before we release it on 23/8/2013. :)
  
 If you do have time, please help to test the ISO images before releasing in 
 Thursday. Report your results in the ISO QA Tracker. We don't enforce you to 
 help, but by testing it you would have helped the Ubuntu Studio team an awful 
 lot.
  
 We need your support. :)
  
 Please go to the Freenode IRC channels listed in [1] to find support on 
 testing.
  
 Regards,
 Howard Chan (smartboyhw @ Freenode)
  
 [0] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds
 [1]: #ubuntu-qa, #ubuntustudio and #ubuntustudio-devel on irc.freenode.net
 
 2012/8/19 Janne Jokitalo astralj...@kapsi.fi
 Hi,
 
 we once again need your assistance on the release candidates of our first 
 point
 release of precise pangolin, 12.04.1. The testing is tracked on the ISO 
 tracker
 [0], and as usual, we have the dvd image for both archs (i386 and amd64).
 
 If you have time, please help us make sure the images are of the usual ubuntu
 quality. :) Should you have questions or problems, please do not hesitate to
 voice them by responding to this email, or on the IRC chatrooms [1].
 
 Looking forward to your contributions, huge thanks in advance!
 
 [0]: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds
 [1]: #ubuntustudio and #ubuntustudio-devel on irc.freenode.net
 
 
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Re: [Bug 1029767] [NEW] help button in preferences points to invalid page

2012-08-21 Thread Emmet Hikory
Len Ovens wrote:
 I've switched this over from nautilus to ubuntustudio-meta because we are
 missing the package that makes this work (ubuntu-docs). However, I tried
 installing that package and when selecting help from nautilus it does show
 nautilus docs but at the top it has a desktop button that goes to an all
 unity page. I don't know which is better, no docs or extra wrong docs.
 Obviously the best thing would be to have a ubuntustudio-docs package, but
 that would require upkeep... more than our average :)  A script that takes
 the ubuntu-docs pkg and auto creates a package with just what we need in
 it would be nice, but I don't know how doable.

Perhaps a very minimal ubuntustudio-docs package would work for this,
including only those files necessary to launch help, with pointers from
the default page to the workflow documentation on the wiki?  This would
also become a good place for us to document the essential ideas of the
workflows and special menus, etc., which might otherwise be confusing for
users coming from some backgrounds.

Once written, we ought not need to change that much, except where there
are signficant changes to the basic environment (e.g. changing default
desktop environment), or where there are changes in the underlying software
(e.g. new location for default help file): I wouldn't expect this to mean
more than one or two changes per cycle, until someone gets sufficiently
excited about our documentation to maintain it more closely, with more
content, etc.

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[Bug 1038573] Re: Unreadable messages displayed during Lucid - Precise upgrade

2012-08-21 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
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Re: Ubuntu Release Sprint

2012-08-21 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
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a.gra...@gmail.com wrote on 20/08/12 09:18:
 ...
 
 On 20 August 2012 10:38, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com 
 wrote:
 
 ...
 
 On that page, you suggest having one of these sprints in July and
 one in January.
 
 Why not do it every week?
 
 because even if we did an Hangout for the half of the blueprints 
 discussed in the previous UDS, it would take at least 4 hours for
 5 days of the week.

Yes, but even if you were doing it every six months -- and
*especially* if you were doing it every week -- there would be no
point in having a Hangout for even half the blueprints. For most of
them, the only thing to say would be welp, there's still no-one
working on this. (There are often sessions like this at UDS, for
example on the Common Printing Dialog, or two-factor authentication.)

Instead, have a Hangout only for those features that anyone is
actively working on that week.

 Imagine it like being at UDS:
 
 ...

No, don't do that. UDS is not a good example of how to get work done.

 ...
 Maybe we should schedule a session at next UDS to talk about 
 this?
 
 Why wait until then? Why not start now?
 
 you are right! I was just thinking that maybe organizing this 
 face-to-face would be easier, but why don't we simply schedule 
 an Hangout session soon and discuss about it? It would be the best 
 way to test if it works :)
 
 ...

So, here's what I suggest:

1.  Choose one of the features you're working on right now.

2.  Mail this list to say I'm going to start a weekly Hangout about
{feature} next week. If you're interested, reply privately to tell
me how you're involved and which UTC hours you'll be available.

3.  After a few days, choose a time that most suits the people who are
most involved, and follow up to announce it.

Then if it turns out to be a good idea, people working on other
features will start doing the same thing.

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Patch pilot report 2012-08-21

2012-08-21 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello everybody,

here's what I got through in my shift today:

lp:~logan/ubuntu/quantal/libio-async-perl/debian-merge
 - marked as merged.

lp:~sylvain-pineau/ubuntu/quantal/checkbox/0.14.4
Please update rt-tests to 0.84 (pad.lv/1039352)
lp:~scarneiro/ubuntu/quantal/remotetea/fix-for-888995
lp:~logan/ubuntu/quantal/dpkg-cross/debian-merge
lp:~logan/ubuntu/quantal/tilestache/debian-merge
lp:~logan/ubuntu/quantal/tcos/debian-merge
lp:~geoubuntu/ubuntu/quantal/gnomeradio/1029472+others
 - uploaded.

lp:~logan/ubuntu/quantal/libtifiles/new-upstream
lp:~logan/ubuntu/quantal/libticables/new-upstream
lp:~logan/ubuntu/quantal/libticonv/new-upstream
 - Some open questions.

lp:~logan/ubuntu/quantal/policykit-1-gnome/debian-merge
lp:~logan/ubuntu/quantal/vte/debian-merge
 - Merge needs updating.

lp:~logan/ubuntu/quantal/notify-osd/debian-merge
 - Had a number of questions about Desktop specific stuff,
   asked the Desktop team to help out.

[needs-packaging] Lucene++ (pad.lv/1036812)
 - no package available for review.

lp:~jm-leddy/ubuntu/precise/transmageddon/movepresets
 - asked for it to be rejected, newer version which has the merge
   is already in quantal.


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Which Ubuntu projects/applications use Qt? (I'd like to offer my help)

2012-08-21 Thread a.gra...@gmail.com
Hi,

before the decision of dropping Unity-2D I contributed to that project
with a couple of patches and I was also working on the Qt5 porting.
Now that the code won't be maintained anymore by Canonical I'd like to
move to a different project. My main skills/knowledges are Qt/QML and
C++.

Do you know if there are any Qt projects in Ubuntu where I could start
contributing?

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Web App Integration - Work with Chrome developers

2012-08-21 Thread Arian van Gend
Hi everyone,

The work being done to integrate web apps with unity to make them first
class citizens is awesome! It seems to me that Ubuntu is the perfect
candidate to lead by example here.

However, I feel that it would be a very good idea to try and work with the
Chrome developers, for example, who are trying to do something similar.
Perhaps Canonical can work together with Google to create an API that can
become the standard way to integrate with OS services.
That way, every one can enjoy these wonderful ideas. We'd just enjoy them a
little sooner. ;)

Has any Canonical developer attempted to contact the Chrome developers on
this point? It seems so much mutual benefit can begot here.

Kind regards,
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Ubuntu+1 inside a sandboxed partition

2012-08-21 Thread Dražen
Hi all,

is there a way to run the development Ubuntu version dual boot, but by
using the OS installer (and other related stuff) from the stable version so
that there is little or no chance of it damaging other partitions with the
stable production installation?

I'd like to run an Ubuntu+1 version for development and testing purposes.
Now, I prefer having a dual boot installation to VMs, because of the
ability to test on actual drivers (which are often the cause of why I want
to hack something in the first place). After reading the description of
this method on the wiki page (
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsingDevelopmentReleases/OtherWays) it seems it has
a major drawback because a bug inside the installer (or, I guess, parts of
the OS related to mounting other partitions etc.) could cause the loss of
data on the production installation, which is quite unacceptable even with
backups, as it takes a lot of time to recover and get the system back to a
usable state (especially if you have other OSs alongside Ubuntu).

What I'm wondering is if there is a way to run a development version, but
with certain crucial parts that could tamper with other partitions taken
from a stable release, where there is a higher level of confidence that it
won't cause data loss on other partitions. This would in an essence be a
sort of Ubuntu+1 installation sandboxed inside a single partition.

If something like this doesn't exist, would it be very complicated to
create as, for example, an automatically generated remix? I think it would
encourage many people to try out the development version on their own
machines, detecting driver-related errors (which get masked by using VMs)
much sooner. Also, it would allow developers to run a development version
straight on their bare metal production machine, which would be a
performance boost during their work.

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Re: Ubuntu+1 inside a sandboxed partition

2012-08-21 Thread Bryce Harrington
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 08:36:44PM +0200, Dražen wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 is there a way to run the development Ubuntu version dual boot, but by
 using the OS installer (and other related stuff) from the stable version so
 that there is little or no chance of it damaging other partitions with the
 stable production installation?

Don't know if this meets your requirements exactly, but it's certainly
possible to do this manually.  Split your drive into multiple
partitions.  Use one for /boot that will be shared across all installs.
Create a partition for each Ubuntu version.  Then copy a relevant menu
entry from /boot/grub/grub.cnf to /etc/grub.d/40_custom, modified to set
the root= param for each to point to the two partitions, and re-run
update-grub.

There's probably half a dozen other ways of doing it...

Bryce

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Re: Ubuntu+1 inside a sandboxed partition

2012-08-21 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 19/08/12 19:36, Dražen wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 is there a way to run the development Ubuntu version dual boot, but by
 using the OS installer (and other related stuff) from the stable version
 so that there is little or no chance of it damaging other partitions
 with the stable production installation?
 
 I'd like to run an Ubuntu+1 version for development and testing
 purposes. Now, I prefer having a dual boot installation to VMs, because
 of the ability to test on actual drivers (which are often the cause of
 why I want to hack something in the first place). After reading the
 description of this method on the wiki page
 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsingDevelopmentReleases/OtherWays) it seems it
 has a major drawback because a bug inside the installer (or, I guess,
 parts of the OS related to mounting other partitions etc.) could cause
 the loss of data on the production installation, which is quite
 unacceptable even with backups, as it takes a lot of time to recover and
 get the system back to a usable state (especially if you have other OSs
 alongside Ubuntu).
 
 What I'm wondering is if there is a way to run a development version,
 but with certain crucial parts that could tamper with other partitions
 taken from a stable release, where there is a higher level of confidence
 that it won't cause data loss on other partitions. This would in an
 essence be a sort of Ubuntu+1 installation sandboxed inside a single
 partition.
 
 If something like this doesn't exist, would it be very complicated to
 create as, for example, an automatically generated remix? I think it
 would encourage many people to try out the development version on their
 own machines, detecting driver-related errors (which get masked by using
 VMs) much sooner. Also, it would allow developers to run a development
 version straight on their bare metal production machine, which would be
 a performance boost during their work.
 
 Dražen Lučanin
 
 

One way to do it is with LXC containers. Your host is running 12.04 LTS,
yet you have containers for Quantal. These have isolated networking /
chroot, but they don't run their own kernel. It's faster than
virtualisation and a very lightweight, yet secure solution. You can
test/run pretty much anything but the kernel/x.server/drivers stack in them.

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Minutes from the Ubuntu Kernel Team meeting, 2012-08-21

2012-08-21 Thread Joseph Salisbury

= Meeting Minutes =
[[http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/08/21/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt|IRC Log of 
the meeting.]]

[[http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam|Meeting minutes.]]

== Agenda ==
[[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting#Tues, 21 Aug, 2012|20120821 
Meeting Agenda]]



=== ARM Status  ===
 Q/omap4: a new Q/omap4 3.5 kernel was uploaded yesterday 
(3.5.0-208.14) and 
a
new one that includes all the patches that went into tilt-3.4[1] after i

 started my porting is being worked on.
 Hopefully this new one (3.5.0-209.15 [2]) will be the last one before 
beta1,

 and it should fix the hangs rsalveti experiences with pvr-omap4.
 Source code is available here:
 
http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ppisati/ubuntu-quantal.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/ti-omap4
 [1]: 
http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/andygreen/kernel-tilt.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/tilt-3.4, 
linux-release-2012-07..HEAD
 [2]: 
http://people.canonical.com/~ppisati/linux-image-3.5.0-209-omap4_3.5.0-209.15_armhf.deb

 rsalveti: ^

=== Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs  ===
 Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following 
link:

  http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt

=== Milestone Targeted Work Items  ===
 || apw || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work item  ||
 || || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 4 work items ||
 || || hardware-q-kernel-misc  || 1 work item  ||
 || || desktop-q-clean-old-kernels || 1 work item ||
 || cking   || hardware-q-kernel-misc  || 1 work item  ||
 || ogasawara   || hardware-q-kernel-misc  || 4 work items ||
 || tgardner|| hardware-q-kernel-misc  || 1 work item  ||
 If your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-1 work items.

=== Status: Quantal Development Kernel  ===
 We've recently uploaded the 3.5.0-11.11 Quantal kernel to the release
 pocket.  This upload most notably provides a rebase to the v3.5.2
 upstream stable release.  This was also uploaded to the q-lts-backport
 [1] PPA to help facilitate testing of the 12.10 kernel in 12.04.  We
 welcome anyone to please install, test, and let us know your feedback.
 [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport
 Note that we are ~1 week away from Beta 1 Freeze.  I intend to upload or
 Beta-1 kernel no later than next Tues, Aug 28.  If there are any patches
 which need to land, send them to the Ubuntu kernel team mailing list
 asap.
 Important upcoming dates:
  * Thurs Aug 30 - Beta 1 Freeze (~1 week)
  * Thurs Sept 6 - Beta 1 (~2 weeks)

=== Status: CVE's  ===
 == 2012-08-21 (weekly) ==
 Currently we have 96 CVEs on our radar, with 2 CVE retired this week.
 See the CVE matrix for the current list:
  http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
 Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
  http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
  http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt

=== Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - 
Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy  ===

 Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (August 21):
  * Hardy - Nothing in this cycle
  * Lucid - In Testing; 3 CVEs; (6 commits)
  * Natty - In Testing; 1 CVEs; (4 commits)
  * Oneiric - In Verification; 1 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); 
(98 commits)
  * Precise - In Verification; 0 CVEs; 3 upstream stable release(s); 
(166 commits)


 Current opened tracking bugs details:
  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html

 For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html

 Future stable cadence cycles:
  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock

 The week of Sept. 6 is the week the last Natty kernel will be built.

=== Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized  ===
 No discussions.

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Re: Which Ubuntu projects/applications use Qt? (I'd like to offer my help)

2012-08-21 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi,
Am Dienstag, den 21.08.2012, 14:22 +0300 schrieb a.gra...@gmail.com:

 Now that the code won't be maintained anymore by Canonical I'd like to
 move to a different project.

why do you move away ? unity-2d might not see support from canonical,
but i know there are many users out there that really like it, it is in
universe, the code is public and free ... why not go on contributing to
such a great project ?

ciao
oli


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Re: Which Ubuntu projects/applications use Qt? (I'd like to offer my help)

2012-08-21 Thread a.gra...@gmail.com
Hi,

On 21 August 2012 20:26, Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 hi,
 Am Dienstag, den 21.08.2012, 14:22 +0300 schrieb a.gra...@gmail.com:

 Now that the code won't be maintained anymore by Canonical I'd like to
 move to a different project.

 why do you move away ? unity-2d might not see support from canonical,
 but i know there are many users out there that really like it, it is in
 universe, the code is public and free ... why not go on contributing to
 such a great project ?

because I completly lost any motivation for Unity-2D right now. I was
already a bit frustrated before the UDS-Q, because I was getting much
help from developers. I can understand they were busy doing other
things and even stuff they could not talk about, but this doesn't
lower my frustration. I also don't like many things of Unity (I'm not
here to start trolling, so I don't want to talk about this here) and I
of course wouldn't like to create a different user experience in
Unity-2D.

I would like to work in a smaller project, with less people, where
maybe I can get more attention than in a big project.

I just want to clarify that this is nothing personal with anyone, I
just don't want to work on Unity-2D anymore. I've seen too many dead
projects recently... cofff... coo. ;)

So, if someone has a good idea just ping me :)

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gstreamer vdpau

2012-08-21 Thread Pali Rohár
Hello,

last year I reported bug, that vdpau is not enabled in ubuntu
gstreamer package: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-
plugins-bad0.10/+bug/902834

but nobody looked at bug... so what is reason, why is vdpau
support in gstreamer disabled?

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Re: Ubuntu+1 inside a sandboxed partition

2012-08-21 Thread Dražen
OK, thanks everybody for your quick suggestions!

I think what Bryce and Andrea are suggesting would be what I had in mind
(using lxc containers would still prevent me from testing the latest
drivers).

I'll try it out and add it to the mentioned wiki page as another method if
it works.

Dražen

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Andrea Corbellini 
corbellini.and...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 19/08/12 20:36, Dražen wrote:

 Hi all,

 is there a way to run the development Ubuntu version dual boot, but by
 using the OS installer (and other related stuff) from the stable version
 so that there is little or no chance of it damaging other partitions
 with the stable production installation?

 I'd like to run an Ubuntu+1 version for development and testing
 purposes. Now, I prefer having a dual boot installation to VMs, because
 of the ability to test on actual drivers (which are often the cause of
 why I want to hack something in the first place). After reading the
 description of this method on the wiki page
 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**UsingDevelopmentReleases/**OtherWayshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsingDevelopmentReleases/OtherWays)
 it seems it
 has a major drawback because a bug inside the installer (or, I guess,
 parts of the OS related to mounting other partitions etc.) could cause
 the loss of data on the production installation, which is quite
 unacceptable even with backups, as it takes a lot of time to recover and
 get the system back to a usable state (especially if you have other OSs
 alongside Ubuntu).

 What I'm wondering is if there is a way to run a development version,
 but with certain crucial parts that could tamper with other partitions
 taken from a stable release, where there is a higher level of confidence
 that it won't cause data loss on other partitions. This would in an
 essence be a sort of Ubuntu+1 installation sandboxed inside a single
 partition.


 You can do this:

 1. create the target partition and mount it somewhere;

 2. use debootstrap(8) like this: `debootstrap quantal /somewhere';

 3. chroot into the /somewhere and install the tasksel package;

 4. run `tasksel install ubuntu-desktop';

 5. update grub's configuration as you like.

 This is basically what the Ubuntu installer does. You'll get a perfectly
 functioning Ubuntu Desktop without running the live cd.


  If something like this doesn't exist, would it be very complicated to
 create as, for example, an automatically generated remix? I think it
 would encourage many people to try out the development version on their
 own machines, detecting driver-related errors (which get masked by using
 VMs) much sooner. Also, it would allow developers to run a development
 version straight on their bare metal production machine, which would be
 a performance boost during their work.

 Dražen Lučanin



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Maintaining responsiveness using cgroups

2012-08-21 Thread Jason Rohrer
I've been using gnu/linux as my main daily work system for about 12 years, and 
been using Ubuntu since Feisty (2007?).  Some of my games have even made it 
into the repository.  Ubuntu's great stuff.

Every once in a while, in my work, or due to a leak/bug in some application 
(e.g., Firefox), one process will start allocating an unexpected amount of 
memory.  For example, if I try to process too big of an image by accident with 
ImageMagick.  As the process demands more memory, the kernel tries to provide 
it.  Other processes, including system critical ones, get swapped out.  This 
renders the system almost completely unresponsive.  Of course, as the user, you 
realize what's going on and try to kill the process.  But sometimes, when Xorg 
gets swapped out, and your terminal shell gets swapped out, and the mouse 
stutters... well, you can't really do anything.  Sometimes, if it gets really 
bad (like two processes in a swap war), even virtual terminals (cntrl-alt-F4, 
e.g.) can't properly log in.  Some keyboards (like mine!) don't have a SysRq 
key.  Sometime, hitting the power button is the only solution.

Obviously, this is user or programmer error.  Tons of people online claim this 
is normal behavior.  But consider the end-user experience---frustrating even 
for the power-user.  Yes, this happens on OSX and Windows sometimes too, but... 
you know, Linux can do better than that!  It should be rock solid no matter 
what your processes do.

If you look at how the kernel handles CPU hogging processes, it hardly affects 
the system responsiveness at all (great!).  But when it comes to RAM-hogging 
processes, the kernel allows one process to dominate, by default.  And 
/etc/security/limits.conf has been de-toothed since 2.4.30 to ignore the rss 
limit that could help with this problem (and limits.conf ships with all limits 
off by default anyway).

Enter the new (as of 2.6.24) kernel feature:  cgroups

Here, we can set a hard RSS limit for all processes of a given user, or even 
group of users.  A limit on the total.  Which is actually what we want, and 
better than a per-process limit.  If a user spawns several memory-hungry 
processes at the same time, a per-process limit would still allow Xorg to get 
swapped out.  But a group limit can ensure there's always some physical RAM 
left for critical (root-owned) processes.

I've tried cgroups on my system (basically setting a limit for myself that is a 
portion of my physical RAM, leaving enough RAM for system critical processes 
always).  And the results are DRAMATIC.  No matter what I do, the system never 
becomes unresponsive now.  Even in the biggest swap war between MY processes, I 
can still switch virtual desktops instantly, switch windows, kill a process, 
etc.

After 12 years of suffering from this occasional (and pretty much only) 
instability of Linux, I think I've finally fixed it.

Of course, I had to install libcgroup1 and cgroup-bin, which weren't there by 
default.  And I had to study the (extremely complicated) cgroup documentation 
to get this setup for myself.  Unlikely that most users are going to go out of 
their way to set this up.


FINALLY, after all that background, here's my suggestion:  

Why isn't this the DEFAULT configuration for desktop users?  Set some fraction 
of physical RAM aside for system-critical processes, and then give the users 
the rest with a cgroup.  Then, the user's system would never become 
unresponsive due to user error.  And I can't think of a situation when you'd 
really WANT to have all physical RAM devoted to a user process at the expense 
of system-critical processes.  At least not in a desktop environment.

You know, the default Ubuntu behavior is not to dump core files (so as not to 
waste disk space of unsuspecting users).  I think all non-root user processes 
should be in a RAM-limited cgroup as default Ubuntu behavior (so as to never 
cause unsuspecting users to reach for the power button as a last resort).


Thoughts?

And pasted below is a description of what I did (on my 512MB system).  Simple, 
assuming you can figure out how to do it.

Thanks for your time,
Jason




$ sudo apt-get install libcgroup1 cgroup-bin

Then, edit /etc/cgconf.conf to add a new control group:

group regularUsers {
memory {
memory.limit_in_bytes = 256M;
}
}

Then, edit /etc/cgrules.conf to add a given user to the regularUsers group:

jasonrohrermemory   regularUsers/


Finally, restart cgroups (or reboot):

$ sudo service cgconfig restart
$ sudo service cgred restart

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Firefox: Suggested font packages for MathML

2012-08-21 Thread Frédéric WANG

Dear Ubuntu maintainers,

I'm one of the main developer of the Mozilla MathML Project. I've just 
looked at the suggested packages for Firefox


http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/firefox

and noticed the latex-xft-fonts package. This package is said to be 
useful for Mozilla Firefox with MathML documents. This is no longer 
true. The fonts currently usable by the MathML rendering engine are:


- STIX fonts (since at least Firefox 4.0)
- Asana Math font (since Firefox 7.0)
- MathJax fonts (since Firefox 13.0)

For more details, see

https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mozilla_MathML_Project/Fonts
http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2012/04/21/Mozilla-MathML-Project%3A-about-mathematical-fonts
http://www.maths-informatique-jeux.com/blog/frederic/?post/2012/06/23/Mozilla-MathML-Project%3A-installation-of-mathematical-fonts

I would be really grateful if you could update the suggested font 
packages for MathML.


Best regards,

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Re: Ubuntu+1 inside a sandboxed partition

2012-08-21 Thread Andrea Corbellini

On 19/08/12 20:36, Dražen wrote:

Hi all,

is there a way to run the development Ubuntu version dual boot, but by
using the OS installer (and other related stuff) from the stable version
so that there is little or no chance of it damaging other partitions
with the stable production installation?

I'd like to run an Ubuntu+1 version for development and testing
purposes. Now, I prefer having a dual boot installation to VMs, because
of the ability to test on actual drivers (which are often the cause of
why I want to hack something in the first place). After reading the
description of this method on the wiki page
(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsingDevelopmentReleases/OtherWays) it seems it
has a major drawback because a bug inside the installer (or, I guess,
parts of the OS related to mounting other partitions etc.) could cause
the loss of data on the production installation, which is quite
unacceptable even with backups, as it takes a lot of time to recover and
get the system back to a usable state (especially if you have other OSs
alongside Ubuntu).

What I'm wondering is if there is a way to run a development version,
but with certain crucial parts that could tamper with other partitions
taken from a stable release, where there is a higher level of confidence
that it won't cause data loss on other partitions. This would in an
essence be a sort of Ubuntu+1 installation sandboxed inside a single
partition.


You can do this:

1. create the target partition and mount it somewhere;

2. use debootstrap(8) like this: `debootstrap quantal /somewhere';

3. chroot into the /somewhere and install the tasksel package;

4. run `tasksel install ubuntu-desktop';

5. update grub's configuration as you like.

This is basically what the Ubuntu installer does. You'll get a perfectly 
functioning Ubuntu Desktop without running the live cd.



If something like this doesn't exist, would it be very complicated to
create as, for example, an automatically generated remix? I think it
would encourage many people to try out the development version on their
own machines, detecting driver-related errors (which get masked by using
VMs) much sooner. Also, it would allow developers to run a development
version straight on their bare metal production machine, which would be
a performance boost during their work.

Dražen Lučanin



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Re: Maintaining responsiveness using cgroups

2012-08-21 Thread Serge Hallyn
Quoting Jason Rohrer (jasonroh...@fastmail.fm):
 I've been using gnu/linux as my main daily work system for about 12 years, 
 and been using Ubuntu since Feisty (2007?).  Some of my games have even made 
 it into the repository.  Ubuntu's great stuff.
 
 Every once in a while, in my work, or due to a leak/bug in some application 
 (e.g., Firefox), one process will start allocating an unexpected amount of 
 memory.  For example, if I try to process too big of an image by accident 
 with ImageMagick.  As the process demands more memory, the kernel tries to 
 provide it.  Other processes, including system critical ones, get swapped 
 out.  This renders the system almost completely unresponsive.  Of course, as 
 the user, you realize what's going on and try to kill the process.  But 
 sometimes, when Xorg gets swapped out, and your terminal shell gets swapped 
 out, and the mouse stutters... well, you can't really do anything.  
 Sometimes, if it gets really bad (like two processes in a swap war), even 
 virtual terminals (cntrl-alt-F4, e.g.) can't properly log in.  Some keyboards 
 (like mine!) don't have a SysRq key.  Sometime, hitting the power button is 
 the only solution.
 
 Obviously, this is user or programmer error.  Tons of people online claim 
 this is normal behavior.  But consider the end-user 
 experience---frustrating even for the power-user.  Yes, this happens on OSX 
 and Windows sometimes too, but... you know, Linux can do better than that!  
 It should be rock solid no matter what your processes do.
 
 If you look at how the kernel handles CPU hogging processes, it hardly 
 affects the system responsiveness at all (great!).  But when it comes to 
 RAM-hogging processes, the kernel allows one process to dominate, by default. 
  And /etc/security/limits.conf has been de-toothed since 2.4.30 to ignore the 
 rss limit that could help with this problem (and limits.conf ships with all 
 limits off by default anyway).
 
 Enter the new (as of 2.6.24) kernel feature:  cgroups
 
 Here, we can set a hard RSS limit for all processes of a given user, or even 
 group of users.  A limit on the total.  Which is actually what we want, and 
 better than a per-process limit.  If a user spawns several memory-hungry 
 processes at the same time, a per-process limit would still allow Xorg to get 
 swapped out.  But a group limit can ensure there's always some physical RAM 
 left for critical (root-owned) processes.
 
 I've tried cgroups on my system (basically setting a limit for myself that is 
 a portion of my physical RAM, leaving enough RAM for system critical 
 processes always).  And the results are DRAMATIC.  No matter what I do, the 
 system never becomes unresponsive now.  Even in the biggest swap war between 
 MY processes, I can still switch virtual desktops instantly, switch windows, 
 kill a process, etc.
 
 After 12 years of suffering from this occasional (and pretty much only) 
 instability of Linux, I think I've finally fixed it.
 
 Of course, I had to install libcgroup1 and cgroup-bin, which weren't there by 
 default.  And I had to study the (extremely complicated) cgroup documentation 
 to get this setup for myself.  Unlikely that most users are going to go out 
 of their way to set this up.
 
 
 FINALLY, after all that background, here's my suggestion:  
 
 Why isn't this the DEFAULT configuration for desktop users?  Set some 
 fraction of physical RAM aside for system-critical processes, and then give 
 the users the rest with a cgroup.  Then, the user's system would never become 
 unresponsive due to user error.  And I can't think of a situation when you'd 
 really WANT to have all physical RAM devoted to a user process at the expense 
 of system-critical processes.  At least not in a desktop environment.
 
 You know, the default Ubuntu behavior is not to dump core files (so as not to 
 waste disk space of unsuspecting users).  I think all non-root user processes 
 should be in a RAM-limited cgroup as default Ubuntu behavior (so as to never 
 cause unsuspecting users to reach for the power button as a last resort).
 
 
 Thoughts?

Hi,

Yes, I sometimes have to do this as well.  My biggest and fastest laptop,
unfortunately, also has an overheating problem.  So I often make a new
cgroup with say 2G ram, 4 cpus, and a freezer so I can quickly pause what
it is doing if I need to.

Unfortunately the idea of automatically moving tasks into cgroups as
they are started doesn't quite work.  It would need to have some more
kernel help in order to do that reliably.  The newest Debian package
actually (temporarily) removes the starting of libcgroup daemons (by
default) at boot.  However, the intent is to reintroduce at least the
configurable setup of the cgroups at boot, and that combined with
pam_cgroup should help to do what you like.

I'm Cc:ing Jon, the libcgroup maintainer.  Perhaps a cgroup-desktop
package (which eventually could be promoted to main and become default)
could at least provide a 

Re: Which Ubuntu projects/applications use Qt? (I'd like to offer my help)

2012-08-21 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 22/08/2012 01:57, a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 
 On 21 August 2012 20:26, Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 hi,
 Am Dienstag, den 21.08.2012, 14:22 +0300 schrieb a.gra...@gmail.com:

 Now that the code won't be maintained anymore by Canonical I'd like to
 move to a different project.

 why do you move away ? unity-2d might not see support from canonical,
 but i know there are many users out there that really like it, it is in
 universe, the code is public and free ... why not go on contributing to
 such a great project ?
 
 because I completly lost any motivation for Unity-2D right now. I was
 already a bit frustrated before the UDS-Q, because I was getting much
 help from developers. I can understand they were busy doing other
 things and even stuff they could not talk about, but this doesn't
 lower my frustration. I also don't like many things of Unity (I'm not
 here to start trolling, so I don't want to talk about this here) and I
 of course wouldn't like to create a different user experience in
 Unity-2D.
 
 I would like to work in a smaller project, with less people, where
 maybe I can get more attention than in a big project.
 
 I just want to clarify that this is nothing personal with anyone, I
 just don't want to work on Unity-2D anymore. I've seen too many dead
 projects recently... cofff... coo. ;)
 
 So, if someone has a good idea just ping me :)

Open your terminal and run this:

$ apt-cache rdepends libqtcore4

There are plenty of Qt-using projects out there.
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Re: Which Ubuntu projects/applications use Qt? (I'd like to offer my help)

2012-08-21 Thread a.gra...@gmail.com
Hi,

On 22 August 2012 07:01, Chow Loong Jin hyper...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Open your terminal and run this:

 $ apt-cache rdepends libqtcore4

 There are plenty of Qt-using projects out there.

well, I know that command, but if I just wanted a generic Qt project I
would simply contribute to KDE or to Qt itself.

If there aren't any specific Ubuntu projects written in Qt (like for
example the Ubuntu One client... it wasn't hard to use it as
example...) I will dedicate to something else.

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Re: Which Ubuntu projects/applications use Qt? (I'd like to offer my help)

2012-08-21 Thread Colin Law
On 21 August 2012 18:57, a.gra...@gmail.com a.gra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 On 21 August 2012 20:26, Oliver Grawert o...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 hi,
 Am Dienstag, den 21.08.2012, 14:22 +0300 schrieb a.gra...@gmail.com:

 Now that the code won't be maintained anymore by Canonical I'd like to
 move to a different project.

 why do you move away ? unity-2d might not see support from canonical,
 but i know there are many users out there that really like it, it is in
 universe, the code is public and free ... why not go on contributing to
 such a great project ?

Is there a way I can re-install it back into Quantal?

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Re: Ubuntu+1 inside a sandboxed partition

2012-08-21 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
I'll toss my 2 cents in here as well. Part of testing is to test out the 
installer. However, if your afraid of losing data (and you should have a 
plan!), one trick I like to use is to simply crack open my case and 
disconnect the hard drive(s) containing my crucial data. Boom, problem 
solved. No way is the installer going to nuke me now :-) If you only 
have one disk, then this isn't an option for you. But I like to have 
separate physical disks for testing for this reason. For example, if I 
had a two disk setup I would do this:


Disk 1:
Partition into as many slots as you'd like, using any partition on the 
disk as the root filesystem


Ubuntu 10.04|Ubuntu12.04|Ubuntu12.10

Disk 2:
your home folder.. the entire disk, one partition, guard with your life 
and have backups :-)


Now when installing, disconnect disk 2. Do whatever you'd like on disk 
1, and if for some reason the installer wipes the disk and kills my 
ubuntu 10.04 and ubuntu 12.04 partitions, I can report the bug and not 
lose any sleep over it. Re-installing takes 20 mins. Re-attach my home 
drive to it and re-sync my installed packages and I'm back in business.


Naturally after installing, you could decide if you wanted to mount disk 
2 as /home on any of the root filesystems.. it would be your choice :-)


Thanks,

Nicholas

P.S. Ohh, btw, this applies to the stable releases too :-) Things can, 
will and do break at any time. If your messing with a disk that has 
important data (aka partitioning, installing grub, installing an OS), 
you better have a impenetrable backup.


On 08/21/2012 02:53 PM, Dražen wrote:

OK, thanks everybody for your quick suggestions!

I think what Bryce and Andrea are suggesting would be what I had in 
mind (using lxc containers would still prevent me from testing the 
latest drivers).


I'll try it out and add it to the mentioned wiki page as another 
method if it works.


Dražen

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Andrea Corbellini 
corbellini.and...@gmail.com mailto:corbellini.and...@gmail.com wrote:


On 19/08/12 20:36, Dražen wrote:

Hi all,

is there a way to run the development Ubuntu version dual
boot, but by
using the OS installer (and other related stuff) from the
stable version
so that there is little or no chance of it damaging other
partitions
with the stable production installation?

I'd like to run an Ubuntu+1 version for development and testing
purposes. Now, I prefer having a dual boot installation to
VMs, because
of the ability to test on actual drivers (which are often the
cause of
why I want to hack something in the first place). After
reading the
description of this method on the wiki page
(https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsingDevelopmentReleases/OtherWays)
it seems it
has a major drawback because a bug inside the installer (or, I
guess,
parts of the OS related to mounting other partitions etc.)
could cause
the loss of data on the production installation, which is quite
unacceptable even with backups, as it takes a lot of time to
recover and
get the system back to a usable state (especially if you have
other OSs
alongside Ubuntu).

What I'm wondering is if there is a way to run a development
version,
but with certain crucial parts that could tamper with other
partitions
taken from a stable release, where there is a higher level of
confidence
that it won't cause data loss on other partitions. This would
in an
essence be a sort of Ubuntu+1 installation sandboxed inside a
single
partition.


You can do this:

1. create the target partition and mount it somewhere;

2. use debootstrap(8) like this: `debootstrap quantal /somewhere';

3. chroot into the /somewhere and install the tasksel package;

4. run `tasksel install ubuntu-desktop';

5. update grub's configuration as you like.

This is basically what the Ubuntu installer does. You'll get a
perfectly functioning Ubuntu Desktop without running the live cd.


If something like this doesn't exist, would it be very
complicated to
create as, for example, an automatically generated remix? I
think it
would encourage many people to try out the development version
on their
own machines, detecting driver-related errors (which get
masked by using
VMs) much sooner. Also, it would allow developers to run a
development
version straight on their bare metal production machine, which
would be
a performance boost during their work.

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re: No KDE translations needed for Quantal

2012-08-21 Thread Jonathan Riddell

David Planella said:
 Now it would actually be a good idea to get those minor releases every
 now and then as an SRU, so I'd suggest discussing it with the Kubuntu team.

Actually we already do this, point releases of KDE SC go into our PPA
then after enough testing in -updates.  e.g. 12.04.1 images have will
have KDE SC 4.8.4 when 12.04 had KDE SC 4.8.2.


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Re: Ubuntu Quantal Open for Translation

2012-08-21 Thread Jonathan Riddell

Yuri Chornoivan said:
 Packages that probably will not be released:
 kubuntu-docs ( http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/07/26/%23kubuntu-devel.html 
 Littlegirl has no time to finish update )

she might not have time to finish it but the updates she's made are in
and useful, I expect to update the package in time for translations and
pick up those translations before release.

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Re: No KDE translations needed for Quantal

2012-08-21 Thread David Planella
Al 21/08/12 14:00, En/na Jonathan Riddell ha escrit:
 
 David Planella said:
 Now it would actually be a good idea to get those minor releases every
 now and then as an SRU, so I'd suggest discussing it with the Kubuntu team.
 
 Actually we already do this, point releases of KDE SC go into our PPA
 then after enough testing in -updates.  e.g. 12.04.1 images have will
 have KDE SC 4.8.4 when 12.04 had KDE SC 4.8.2.
 

Ah, that's pretty cool then, thanks Jonathan for the update!

Cheers,
David.



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Re: Ubuntu Studio precise pangolin 12.04.1 RCs on ISO tracker

2012-08-21 Thread Ho Wan Chan
Hi guys.

We really need some assistance in testing for the Ubuntu Studio 12.04.1 RC
images.

I saw in the ISO QA Tracker [0] today and I found that only me and
len-ovenwerks (len-dt on Freenode) have tested the Ubuntu Studio images
till today. This is not enough to build a strong report. We need more
people to ensure the build is bug-free before we release it on 23/8/2013. :)

If you do have time, please help to test the ISO images before releasing in
Thursday. Report your results in the ISO QA Tracker. We don't enforce you
to help, but by testing it you would have helped the Ubuntu Studio team an
awful lot.

We need your support. :)

Please go to the Freenode IRC channels listed in [1] to find support on
testing.

Regards,
Howard Chan (smartboyhw @ Freenode)

[0] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds
[1]: #ubuntu-qa, #ubuntustudio and #ubuntustudio-devel on irc.freenode.net

2012/8/19 Janne Jokitalo astralj...@kapsi.fi

 Hi,

 we once again need your assistance on the release candidates of our first
 point
 release of precise pangolin, 12.04.1. The testing is tracked on the ISO
 tracker
 [0], and as usual, we have the dvd image for both archs (i386 and amd64).

 If you have time, please help us make sure the images are of the usual
 ubuntu
 quality. :) Should you have questions or problems, please do not hesitate
 to
 voice them by responding to this email, or on the IRC chatrooms [1].

 Looking forward to your contributions, huge thanks in advance!

 [0]: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds
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Re: Ubuntu Studio precise pangolin 12.04.1 RCs on ISO tracker

2012-08-21 Thread Stuart McQuade
I actually downloaded the ISO yesterday and am intending to test it tomorrow. 
If you didn't see my download, does this mean I took it from the wrong place?

I used this link: 
http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/precise/dvd/20120818/precise-dvd-i386.iso


Stuart

On 21 Aug 2012, at 15:28, Ho Wan Chan wrote:

 Hi guys.
  
 We really need some assistance in testing for the Ubuntu Studio 12.04.1 RC 
 images.
  
 I saw in the ISO QA Tracker [0] today and I found that only me and 
 len-ovenwerks (len-dt on Freenode) have tested the Ubuntu Studio images till 
 today. This is not enough to build a strong report. We need more people to 
 ensure the build is bug-free before we release it on 23/8/2013. :)
  
 If you do have time, please help to test the ISO images before releasing in 
 Thursday. Report your results in the ISO QA Tracker. We don't enforce you to 
 help, but by testing it you would have helped the Ubuntu Studio team an awful 
 lot.
  
 We need your support. :)
  
 Please go to the Freenode IRC channels listed in [1] to find support on 
 testing.
  
 Regards,
 Howard Chan (smartboyhw @ Freenode)
  
 [0] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds
 [1]: #ubuntu-qa, #ubuntustudio and #ubuntustudio-devel on irc.freenode.net
 
 2012/8/19 Janne Jokitalo astralj...@kapsi.fi
 Hi,
 
 we once again need your assistance on the release candidates of our first 
 point
 release of precise pangolin, 12.04.1. The testing is tracked on the ISO 
 tracker
 [0], and as usual, we have the dvd image for both archs (i386 and amd64).
 
 If you have time, please help us make sure the images are of the usual ubuntu
 quality. :) Should you have questions or problems, please do not hesitate to
 voice them by responding to this email, or on the IRC chatrooms [1].
 
 Looking forward to your contributions, huge thanks in advance!
 
 [0]: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds
 [1]: #ubuntustudio and #ubuntustudio-devel on irc.freenode.net
 
 
 Best regards,
 
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Re: Ubuntu Studio precise pangolin 12.04.1 RCs on ISO tracker

2012-08-21 Thread Mike Holstein
this is where we need the tests to be completed from

http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds

thanks!

On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Stuart McQuade stuart.mcqu...@yahoo.comwrote:

 I actually downloaded the ISO yesterday and am intending to test it
 tomorrow. If you didn't see my download, does this mean I took it from the
 wrong place?

 I used this link:
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/precise/dvd/20120818/precise-dvd-i386.iso


 Stuart

 On 21 Aug 2012, at 15:28, Ho Wan Chan wrote:

 Hi guys.

 We really need some assistance in testing for the Ubuntu Studio 12.04.1 RC
 images.

 I saw in the ISO QA Tracker [0] today and I found that only me and
 len-ovenwerks (len-dt on Freenode) have tested the Ubuntu Studio images
 till today. This is not enough to build a strong report. We need more
 people to ensure the build is bug-free before we release it on 23/8/2013. :)

 If you do have time, please help to test the ISO images before releasing
 in Thursday. Report your results in the ISO QA Tracker. We don't enforce
 you to help, but by testing it you would have helped the Ubuntu Studio team
 an awful lot.

 We need your support. :)

 Please go to the Freenode IRC channels listed in [1] to find support on
 testing.

 Regards,
 Howard Chan (smartboyhw @ Freenode)

 [0] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds
 [1]: #ubuntu-qa, #ubuntustudio and #ubuntustudio-devel on irc.freenode.net

 2012/8/19 Janne Jokitalo astralj...@kapsi.fi

 Hi,

 we once again need your assistance on the release candidates of our first
 point
 release of precise pangolin, 12.04.1. The testing is tracked on the ISO
 tracker
 [0], and as usual, we have the dvd image for both archs (i386 and amd64).

 If you have time, please help us make sure the images are of the usual
 ubuntu
 quality. :) Should you have questions or problems, please do not hesitate
 to
 voice them by responding to this email, or on the IRC chatrooms [1].

 Looking forward to your contributions, huge thanks in advance!

 [0]: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds
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Re: Ubuntu Studio precise pangolin 12.04.1 RCs on ISO tracker

2012-08-21 Thread Set Hallstrom
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Hi,

I'm willing to help. Problem is my bandwidth is quite poor. Is there a
torrent link available? If it's just for me, don't bother setting it
up, i'm sure i can squat someone's connection early enough to bring
you feedback. I'm just wondering as it would make things considerably
more easy for me.

Thanks!

*Set

On 08/21/2012 07:55 PM, Mike Holstein wrote:
 this is where we need the tests to be completed from
 
 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds
 
 thanks!
 
 On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Stuart McQuade 
 stuart.mcqu...@yahoo.com mailto:stuart.mcqu...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 I actually downloaded the ISO yesterday and am intending to test
 it tomorrow. If you didn't see my download, does this mean I took
 it from the wrong place?
 
 I used this link:
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/precise/dvd/20120818/precise-dvd-i386.iso

 
 
 Stuart
 
 On 21 Aug 2012, at 15:28, Ho Wan Chan wrote:
 
 Hi guys.
 
 We really need some assistance in testing for the Ubuntu Studio 
 12.04.1 RC images.
 
 I saw in the ISO QA Tracker [0] today and I found that only me
 and len-ovenwerks (len-dt on Freenode) have tested the Ubuntu
 Studio images till today. This is not enough to build a strong
 report. We need more people to ensure the build is bug-free
 before we release it on 23/8/2013. :)
 
 If you do have time, please help to test the ISO images before 
 releasing in Thursday. Report your results in the ISO QA Tracker.
 We don't enforce you to help, but by testing it you would have
 helped the Ubuntu Studio team an awful lot.
 
 We need your support. :)
 
 Please go to the Freenode IRC channels listed in [1] to find 
 support on testing.
 
 Regards, Howard Chan (smartboyhw @ Freenode)
 
 [0] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds [1]:
 #ubuntu-qa, #ubuntustudio and #ubuntustudio-devel on 
 irc.freenode.net http://irc.freenode.net/
 
 2012/8/19 Janne Jokitalo astralj...@kapsi.fi 
 mailto:astralj...@kapsi.fi
 
 Hi,
 
 we once again need your assistance on the release candidates of
 our first point release of precise pangolin, 12.04.1. The testing
 is tracked on the ISO tracker [0], and as usual, we have the dvd
 image for both archs (i386 and amd64).
 
 If you have time, please help us make sure the images are of the
 usual ubuntu quality. :) Should you have questions or problems,
 please do not hesitate to voice them by responding to this email,
 or on the IRC chatrooms [1].
 
 Looking forward to your contributions, huge thanks in advance!
 
 [0]: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds 
 [1]: #ubuntustudio and #ubuntustudio-devel on irc.freenode.net 
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calfjackhost eq12 plugin missing

2012-08-21 Thread Mac
UBS12.04 calfjackhost doesn't seem to have the 12 band eq plugin.

Was it pulled?

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] RES: Re: 12.04 LTS Travando

2012-08-21 Thread Rafael Bedendo

Pessoal façam o procedimento que descrevi antes.

Para quem *tem* placa de vídeo dedicada:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable
sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
sudo update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo apt-get install bbswitch-dkms bumblebee


Para quem *não tem* placa de vídeo dedicada:

sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
sudo update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

Haverá uma grande melhora na performance e na estabilidade.

Abraço,

Rafael Bedendo

Em 20-08-2012 13:44, César Araújo escreveu:

Tenho um notebook lenovo, om video intel HD3000, que está sofrível com o
novo xorg. Existe alguma maneira de removê-lo e instalar driver
proprietário?

ps.: Ubuntu 12.04 x64.

Atenciosamente,
César de A. Ferreira
Ubuntu 12.04 x64
Linux user #355727 - Ubuntu user #26536



Em 20 de agosto de 2012 08:24, Jeferson Rodrigues jefero...@gmail.comescreveu:


AMD/ATI RULEZ!

Em 18 de agosto de 2012 08:01, Jack Jr cska1...@gmail.com escreveu:


Nvidia não gosta de Linux
Eu não gosto de quem não gosta de Linux
Logo
Eu não gosto e não compro Nvidia


Jack Pogorelsky Junior
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De: Jean Dantas
Enviado:  17/08/2012 10:55:13
Assunto:  Re: [Ubuntu-BR] 12.04 LTS Travando

Rafael muito obrigado, esta tudo certo depois dessas atualizações.

nvidia parece que não gosta mesmo do linux :/

como diz o Linus - http://goo.gl/is8x0
k

abraços
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Em 16 de agosto de 2012 13:34, Rafael Bedendo
rafael.bede...@gmail.comescreveu:


Esqueci de falar que o bumblebee tem a configuração de xorg que é

definida

em /etc/bumblebee/bumblebee.conf  você listando o diretório

/etc/bumblebee/

verá os arquivos de configuração do xorg.

O que deve estar acontecendo no seu caso é conflito que o que você está
usando no xorg.conf


Abraço,

Rafael Bedendo

Em 16-08-2012 12:57, Jean Dantas escreveu:


Rafael boa tarde,


Depois de fazer essa atualização parece  que parou, ontem e hoje não
travou.

Mas quando terminei de instalar o driver da nvidia ficou com a

resolução

640x480,e não consegui mudar tive que voltar o backup do arquivo
xorg.conf.

Como esta seu arquivo xorg.conf 

Obrigado
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Em 15 de agosto de 2012 16:37, Jean Dantas jean...@gmail.com

escreveu:

  Marcelo Carvalho, já testei também instalar assim não funcionou. :(

Rafael,

Isso foi algo que ainda não testei, vou testar e retorno.

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Em 15 de agosto de 2012 15:51, Rafael Bedendo 

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**escreveu:

Amigo seu notebook tem duas placas de vídeo, uma intel e outra

nvidia,

além do problema que você relatou, você também deve estar tendo

problema

com o consumo de bateria, a solução é instalar os drivers mais

recentes

e o
bumblebee, veja o link abaixo:

http://askubuntu.com/questions/134594/how-to-**

http://askubuntu.com/**questions/134594/how-to-**

install-bumblebee-ui-gui-in-ubuntu-12-04http://askubuntu.**
com/questions/134594/how-to-**install-bumblebee-ui-gui-in-**
ubuntu-12-04

http://askubuntu.com/questions/134594/how-to-install-bumblebee-ui-gui-in-ubuntu-12-04


Eu faço o seguinte:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable

sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa

sudo update

sudo apt-get dist-upgrade

sudo apt-get install bbswitch-dkms bumblebee


*Atenção*

O procedimento acima, irá instalar a versão mais recente do kernel

que

está disponível no ppa xorg-edgers, além de atualizar o X e outros
pacotes,
isso trará para você grandes benefícios com relação a velocidade do
sistema. No meu caso, eu tenho um XPS 15 e consegui uma melhora
substancial, porém por se tratar de pacotes muito recentes, podem
ocorrer
outros problemas e a atualização é constante, quase que diária,

sendo

assim
muito download sempre.

Abraço,

Rafael Bedendo


Em 15-08-2012 14:26, Luiz Fernando C Camargo escreveu:

   On 14-08-2012 14:18, Jean Dantas wrote:


Olá,

Comprei o notebook DELL Inspiron 14R com placa de vídeo Nvidia

GeForce

GT
630M, e o ubuntu 12.04 LTS 64 bits esta travando toda hora, ele

trava

tudo,
mouse não mexe, ctrl + alt + f1 não funciona, preciso desligar no
botão
mesmo.

Alguém passou por esse problema?
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  Jean, tente se logar com o ubuntu-2D pra ver se o problema

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[Ubuntu-BR] Programa para visualizar cliparts - shotwell não vale.

2012-08-21 Thread hamacker
Tentei, mas não dá, o shotwell é muito ruim para visualizar cliparts
espalhados numa pasta, especialmente porque ele indexa por data e não
por assunto (nome da pasta).
Alguem aí tem algum programa para essa tarefa.

Minha tarefa é apenas browsear cliparts, encontrar o que preciso e
depois editá-lo com o gimp se for necessário.

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Programa para visualizar cliparts - shotwell não vale.

2012-08-21 Thread Anderson Unsonst
a minha sugestão é o digikam está nos repositórios
sudo apt-get install digikam

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[Ubuntu-BR] Converter arquivos .rmvb para .Xvid Mpeg-4 ?

2012-08-21 Thread ecporto1-yahoo

Caros amigos... boa tarde.
Para converter arquivos .rmvb para .avi utilizo pelo terminal:

mencoder ARQUIVO.rmvb -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=192 -ovc lavc -lavcopts 
vcodec=mpeg4:vhq -o NOVOARQUIVO.avi


Resulta em um arquivo : ffmpeg-4 que não roda no meu videoplayer de mesa.

Como posso mudar a configuração para que o resultado seja: Xvid Mpeg-4 ?

Agradeço antecipadamente qualquer esclarecimento.
Abçs
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Converter arquivos .rmvb para .Xvid Mpeg-4 ?

2012-08-21 Thread Adriano Ferraz

Já experimentou o Transmageddon?

Adriano Ferraz


Em 21-08-2012 15:51, ecporto1-yahoo escreveu:

Caros amigos... boa tarde.
Para converter arquivos .rmvb para .avi utilizo pelo terminal:

mencoder ARQUIVO.rmvb -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=192 -ovc lavc 
-lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq -o NOVOARQUIVO.avi


Resulta em um arquivo : ffmpeg-4 que não roda no meu videoplayer de mesa.

Como posso mudar a configuração para que o resultado seja: Xvid Mpeg-4 ?

Agradeço antecipadamente qualquer esclarecimento.
Abçs
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Converter arquivos .rmvb para .Xvid Mpeg-4 ?

2012-08-21 Thread Anderson Unsonst
eu ia sugerir o winff mas como se trata de rmvb

eu sugiro uma solução via linha de comando:

ffmpeg -i video_de_entrada.rmvb vide_de_saida.mpg

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Converter arquivos .rmvb para .Xvid Mpeg-4 ?

2012-08-21 Thread Anderson Unsonst
pelo mencoder o comando é:

mencoder video.rmvb -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd:tsaf -ovc lavc
-oac lavc -lavcopts autoaspect -o video.mpg

mas tenta pelo winff ele tem possui uma interface gui, que ajuda
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Converter arquivos .rmvb para .Xvid Mpeg-4 ?

2012-08-21 Thread Adriano Ferraz
O rmvb sempre foi um problema mesmo. Um tempo atraz precisei converter 
uns vídeos rmvb, tentei vários programas no Ubuntu, nenhum ficou legal, 
até convertiam...mas a qualidade ia pro brejo...instalei uma VM com 
Windows XP e fiz pelo Format Factory.


Dá pra instalar o Format Factory no Ubuntu com o Wine...mas é aquela 
coisa né.


Att,

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Em 21-08-2012 15:58, Anderson Unsonst escreveu:

eu ia sugerir o winff mas como se trata de rmvb

eu sugiro uma solução via linha de comando:

ffmpeg -i video_de_entrada.rmvb vide_de_saida.mpg




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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Programa para visualizar cliparts - shotwell não vale.

2012-08-21 Thread Ricardo Jorge Borges Guimarães
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Em 21 de agosto de 2012 15:51, Anderson Unsonst
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 a minha sugestão é o digikam está nos repositórios
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Converter arquivos .rmvb para .Xvid Mpeg-4 ?

2012-08-21 Thread nethell
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 15:58:48 -0300
Anderson Unsonst andersonunso...@gmail.com wrote:

 eu ia sugerir o winff mas como se trata de rmvb
  eu sugiro uma solução via linha de comando:
  ffmpeg -i video_de_entrada.rmvb vide_de_saida.mpg

Eu complementaria esse comando:

ffmpeg -i video_de_entrada.rmvb -sameq vide_de_saida.mpg

Com o -same1 não haverá redução de qualidade, caso isso seja necessário
Eu uso esse parâmetro na conversão de avi para mpg, não sei se no caso dos 
rmvbs haverá algum ganho.
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Converter arquivos .rmvb para .Xvid Mpeg-4 ?

2012-08-21 Thread ecporto1-yahoo

Adriano
Instalei o Transmageddon mas não obtive sucesso para arqyuvos .rmvb.
Grato pela atenção
Edson
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Em 21-08-2012 15:54, Adriano Ferraz escreveu:

Já experimentou o Transmageddon?

Adriano Ferraz


Em 21-08-2012 15:51, ecporto1-yahoo escreveu:

Caros amigos... boa tarde.
Para converter arquivos .rmvb para .avi utilizo pelo terminal:

mencoder ARQUIVO.rmvb -oac mp3lame -lameopts br=192 -ovc lavc 
-lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vhq -o NOVOARQUIVO.avi


Resulta em um arquivo : ffmpeg-4 que não roda no meu videoplayer de 
mesa.


Como posso mudar a configuração para que o resultado seja: Xvid Mpeg-4 ?

Agradeço antecipadamente qualquer esclarecimento.
Abçs
Edson

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Converter arquivos .rmvb para .Xvid Mpeg-4 ?

2012-08-21 Thread ecporto1-yahoo

Anderson
Não obtive sucesso com a solução indicada... o resultado não resulta em 
arquivos Xvid Mpeg-4.

Grato pela atenção
Edson

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Em 21-08-2012 15:58, Anderson Unsonst escreveu:

eu ia sugerir o winff mas como se trata de rmvb

eu sugiro uma solução via linha de comando:

ffmpeg -i video_de_entrada.rmvb vide_de_saida.mpg




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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Converter arquivos .rmvb para .Xvid Mpeg-4 ?

2012-08-21 Thread ecporto1-yahoo

Anderson
Instalei o QWinFF e resultou no que eu desejava... converter arquivos 
.rmvb para Xvid Mpeg-4

Aparentemente assunto solucionado.
Grato pela atenção.
Edson

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Em 21-08-2012 16:00, Anderson Unsonst escreveu:

pelo mencoder o comando é:

mencoder video.rmvb -of mpeg -mpegopts format=dvd:tsaf -ovc lavc
-oac lavc -lavcopts autoaspect -o video.mpg

mas tenta pelo winff ele tem possui uma interface gui, que ajuda
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Converter arquivos .rmvb para .Xvid Mpeg-4 ?

2012-08-21 Thread ecporto1-yahoo

Adriano
Grato pela atenção... mas não tenho o Wine instalado.
Abçs
Edson



Em 21-08-2012 16:02, Adriano Ferraz escreveu:
O rmvb sempre foi um problema mesmo. Um tempo atraz precisei converter 
uns vídeos rmvb, tentei vários programas no Ubuntu, nenhum ficou 
legal, até convertiam...mas a qualidade ia pro brejo...instalei uma VM 
com Windows XP e fiz pelo Format Factory.


Dá pra instalar o Format Factory no Ubuntu com o Wine...mas é aquela 
coisa né.


Att,

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Em 21-08-2012 15:58, Anderson Unsonst escreveu:

eu ia sugerir o winff mas como se trata de rmvb

eu sugiro uma solução via linha de comando:

ffmpeg -i video_de_entrada.rmvb vide_de_saida.mpg







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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Converter arquivos .rmvb para .Xvid Mpeg-4 ?

2012-08-21 Thread ecporto1-yahoo

Nethell
Grato pela atenção... mas testei com o uso do QWinFF... aparentemente 
resolvido o problema.

Abçs
Edson



Em 21-08-2012 17:18, nethell escreveu:

ffmpeg -i video_de_entrada.rmvb -sameq vide_de_saida.mpg



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Re: [Ubuntu-be] things are stalling

2012-08-21 Thread Keltoum Belorf
Hoi hoi

Voor het leerkrachtenproject moeten we best eens samenzitten virtueel of
reël :-) om het eens te bespreken. JanB en Kawab?

grtjs

Keltoum

2012/8/18 Wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@gmail.com

 Hey girls and guys

 It's getting really quiet here lately. Without a doubt the fact that it is
 vacation and that there are no events isn't helping to increase the
 activity here..
 However, to get some things going, I'd like to ask all people who are
 leading an Ubuntu-be project to reply on this mail and give the mailinglist
 an update of what we are doing and how far we are.

 To help giving everybody a sense of what we are up to, I'll summarize it:

1. We're making *USB sticks*, *kawabill *is leading this
2. We're making a custom *ISO *to go on the sticks and have it
available for download. The project leader is *Claudio*
3. We're gonna get new *shirts *(same design or something new, you
might start thinking about it already ;)), since I (*wouter*) will be
leading this, you can expect an update after my re-examinations
4. Further going in to branding, we're thinking about new posters and
other *printwork *(we have some people asking us for that), *Jurgen *is
leading this since he did a terrific job with our roll-ups
5. *Dipro's *might be getting less and less attention, but we stay
active there since people know we are there and suspect us to!
This is *community *effort, if you're free some day, come and join us,
it's more fun than it is a burden
6. I (*wouter*) am making an *Ubuntu manual *and it's getting rather
big, but anybody is free to add their contributions!
7. Our *website *feels like it's been left in the cold, and we wan't
to help it. *Sulumar *is in charge of it but *JanC *and I (*wouter*)
are happy to assist him!
8. In addition to that we want to spice up the activity of the landing
page by adding a *Blog*. Now I know *JanC *is willing to put his
efforts in it, but we need a platform to do that.
9. Our *wiki *is like any wiki: a mess! sorting things out and putting
a little more structure in it is going to be my (*wouter*) job during
the next year.
But taking one step at a time, we'll leave it in the closet for some
months since we already did a major clean up last year! (it's like cleaning
a house, you're never done!)
10. We'll be present at other *events *as well *Software Freedom Day* for
instance!
*Jurgen *organizes an event at Hackerspace Brussels on September 22th
and *Claudio *is prepping everything for an event in Genk

 In addition to all these ongoing projects (well, except the blog, that's
 new!) we're even going to ignite some new ones!

1. We want to start making *Courses *for schools and other people. *JanB
*already gave some lessons and will lead this project together with *
kawabill*
2. What we also want to do is turning ourself in a *VZW*, we haven't
assigned anybody yet because we need to get some other things sorted first
(bank stuff etc)
3. Now we already talked about a course and a manual, but what about
an actual *Teachers for Ubuntu network*? Well, we're thinking about
that stuff as well! The people from the course project (*JanB and
Kawabill*) will lead this together with *Keltoum*.

 Having 13 things on the agenda, we find ourselves in a pretty cool
 situation   - please spot the ironic temperature joke -   with a fairly big
 amount of work but also with a super big amount of opportunity. I hope this
 sparks your curiosity, because with the right spirit  - yes, all three mars
 rovers are in this email by name -  we can turn this year in an amazing
 succes. And this because we are on the verge of what might be the
 most interesting year in OS history since the invention of the GUI!

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[Ubuntu-be] materriaal Antwerpen

2012-08-21 Thread Bram Kortleven
Goeiemiddag allen,

ik heb, van de afgelopen Dipro beurzen in Antwerpen, nog een hoop materiaal bij 
mij staan.
Daaronder een grote doos met t-shirts allerlei, een doos met flyers en 
affiches, waaronder enkele modellen al zeer oud, en nog wat 'algemeen' 
computermateriaal dat voor de beurs van mei2012 naar Antwerpen gekomen is.

Momenteel druk aan het herinrichten en verbouwen, en dat materiaal staat een 
beetje in de weg...

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ook spijtig genoeg te druk om de organisatie van de beurzen en events in 
Antwerpen allemaal alleen op mij te nemen, en wou daarom vragen of er iemand 
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geleden... sorry...


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Re: [Ubuntu-be] materriaal Antwerpen

2012-08-21 Thread Jan Bongaerts
Voor de t-shirts hebben we alvast een oplossing. Silent computers in
Wijnegem wou die ook verkopen.
Ik denk dat zij die dan ook wel willen stockeren voor de tijd dat we ze
zelf niet nodig hebben.

2012/8/21 Bram Kortleven b...@bramkortleven.be

 Goeiemiddag allen,

 ik heb, van de afgelopen Dipro beurzen in Antwerpen, nog een hoop
 materiaal bij mij staan.
 Daaronder een grote doos met t-shirts allerlei, een doos met flyers en
 affiches, waaronder enkele modellen al zeer oud, en nog wat 'algemeen'
 computermateriaal dat voor de beurs van mei2012 naar Antwerpen gekomen is.

 Momenteel druk aan het herinrichten en verbouwen, en dat materiaal staat
 een beetje in de weg...

 Ik heb het, met andere projecten, de afgelopen 1,5-2 jaar en het komende
 jaar, ook spijtig genoeg te druk om de organisatie van de beurzen en events
 in Antwerpen allemaal alleen op mij te nemen, en wou daarom vragen of er
 iemand (een deel) van die organisatie op zich wil nemen, en bijgevolg het
 algemene materiaal van de eventbox, en aanverwanten zoals de t-shirts, bij
 zich kan stockeren.
 Ik blijf uiteraard beschikbaar om de stand mee te bemannen, de tijd die ik
 er kan in steken zal weliswaar iets minder zijn dan een dik jaar-twee jaar
 geleden... sorry...


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[Ubuntu-be] Leerkrachtenproject

2012-08-21 Thread kawabill

Inderdaad een samen zitten om planning door te spreken.
29/8 's avonds zitten we met de Ubuntu-ers uit Limburg samen in 
Houthalen - wellicht een idee om er dan bij te komen indien reality, 
anders virtueel eens afspraak maken.



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Hoi hoi

Voor het leerkrachtenproject moeten we best eens samenzitten virtueel of
re?l :-) om het eens te bespreken. JanB en Kawab?

grtjs

Keltoum

2012/8/18 Wouter Vandenneucker wouterv...@gmail.com


Hey girls and guys

It's getting really quiet here lately. Without a doubt the fact that it is
vacation and that there are no events isn't helping to increase the
activity here..
However, to get some things going, I'd like to ask all people who are
leading an Ubuntu-be project to reply on this mail and give the mailinglist
an update of what we are doing and how far we are.

To help giving everybody a sense of what we are up to, I'll summarize it:

1. We're making *USB sticks*, *kawabill *is leading this
2. We're making a custom *ISO *to go on the sticks and have it
available for download. The project leader is *Claudio*
3. We're gonna get new *shirts *(same design or something new, you
might start thinking about it already ;)), since I (*wouter*) will be
leading this, you can expect an update after my re-examinations
4. Further going in to branding, we're thinking about new posters and
other *printwork *(we have some people asking us for that), *Jurgen *is
leading this since he did a terrific job with our roll-ups
5. *Dipro's *might be getting less and less attention, but we stay
active there since people know we are there and suspect us to!
This is *community *effort, if you're free some day, come and join us,
it's more fun than it is a burden
6. I (*wouter*) am making an *Ubuntu manual *and it's getting rather
big, but anybody is free to add their contributions!
7. Our *website *feels like it's been left in the cold, and we wan't
to help it. *Sulumar *is in charge of it but *JanC *and I (*wouter*)
are happy to assist him!
8. In addition to that we want to spice up the activity of the landing
page by adding a *Blog*. Now I know *JanC *is willing to put his
efforts in it, but we need a platform to do that.
9. Our *wiki *is like any wiki: a mess! sorting things out and putting
a little more structure in it is going to be my (*wouter*) job during
the next year.
But taking one step at a time, we'll leave it in the closet for some
months since we already did a major clean up last year! (it's like cleaning
a house, you're never done!)
10. We'll be present at other *events *as well *Software Freedom Day* for
instance!
*Jurgen *organizes an event at Hackerspace Brussels on September 22th
and *Claudio *is prepping everything for an event in Genk

In addition to all these ongoing projects (well, except the blog, that's
new!) we're even going to ignite some new ones!

1. We want to start making *Courses *for schools and other people. *JanB
*already gave some lessons and will lead this project together with *
kawabill*
2. What we also want to do is turning ourself in a *VZW*, we haven't
assigned anybody yet because we need to get some other things sorted first
(bank stuff etc)
3. Now we already talked about a course and a manual, but what about
an actual *Teachers for Ubuntu network*? Well, we're thinking about
that stuff as well! The people from the course project (*JanB and
Kawabill*) will lead this together with *Keltoum*.

Having 13 things on the agenda, we find ourselves in a pretty cool
situation   - please spot the ironic temperature joke -   with a fairly big
amount of work but also with a super big amount of opportunity. I hope this
sparks your curiosity, because with the right spirit  - yes, all three mars
rovers are in this email by name -  we can turn this year in an amazing
succes. And this because we are 

Re: [Ubuntu-be] Leerkrachtenproject

2012-08-21 Thread linux-service.be bvba
Zal dit leerkrachtenproject betalend worden voor de school?
gd


 Inderdaad een samen zitten om planning door te spreken.
 29/8 's avonds zitten we met de Ubuntu-ers uit Limburg samen in
 Houthalen - wellicht een idee om er dan bij te komen indien reality,
 anders virtueel eens afspraak maken.
 
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  Hey girls and guys
  
  It's getting really quiet here lately. Without a doubt the fact that it
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  *Jurgen *is leading this since he did a terrific job with our
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  5. *Dipro's *might be getting less and less attention, but we stay
  active there since people know we are there and suspect us to!
  This is *community *effort, if you're free some day, come and join
  us, it's more fun than it is a burden
  6. I (*wouter*) am making an *Ubuntu manual *and it's getting rather
  big, but anybody is free to add their contributions!
  7. Our *website *feels like it's been left in the cold, and we wan't
  to help it. *Sulumar *is in charge of it but *JanC *and I (*wouter*)
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  8. In addition to that we want to spice up the activity of the
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  put his efforts in it, but we need a platform to do that.
  9. Our *wiki *is like any wiki: a mess! sorting things out and
  putting a little more structure in it is going to be my (*wouter*)
  job during the next year.
  But taking one step at a time, we'll leave it in the closet for some
  months since we already did a major clean up last year! (it's like
  cleaning a house, you're never done!)
  10. We'll be present at other *events *as well *Software Freedom
  Day* for instance!
  *Jurgen *organizes an event at Hackerspace Brussels on September
  22th and *Claudio *is prepping everything for an event in Genk
  
  In addition to all these ongoing projects (well, except the blog, that's
  new!) we're even going to ignite some new ones!
  
  1. We want to start making *Courses *for schools and other people.
  *JanB *already gave some lessons and will lead this project
  together with * kawabill*
  2. What we also want to do is turning ourself in a *VZW*, we haven't
  assigned anybody yet because we need to get some other things sorted
  first (bank stuff etc)
  3. Now we already talked about a course and a manual, but what about
  an actual *Teachers for Ubuntu network*? Well, we're thinking about
  that stuff as well! The people from the course project (*JanB and
  Kawabill*) will lead this together with *Keltoum*.
  
  Having 13 things on the agenda, we find ourselves in a pretty cool
  situation   - please spot the ironic temperature joke -   with a fairly

[ubuntu-mythtv] Mythbuntu theme discussion information

2012-08-21 Thread Thomas Mashos
As most of you have probably noticed, there have been some recent
updates to the Mythbuntu theme in both 0.25 and 0.26. As I've recently
taken over developing the theme and been receiving patches from
people, I wanted to put a reminder out where things needed to go.

Bugs - Theme bugs can be discussed here, although I'd much rather have
the discussion in a bug report on Launchpad
(https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+filebug). One thing is for
certain, the bug will NOT get fixed without a Launchpad bug report, so
file a bug report.

New/Changed Functionality - Up to this point, I've applied all patches
locally, tested, and as long as it worked and I wasn't completely
against it I committed it to github. I'm going to start being a little
more picky in patch acceptance for new features/changed functionality.
If you submit a patch that changes functionality or adds new features,
it should probably be attached to a mailing list thread here. The
Mythbuntu team reserves the right to commit patches we see as a good
change with little or no discussion (eg. if we see a patch on the list
and it makes sense we'll probably just add it, no need for a bunch of
red tape)

Patches - It's easiest for me to take merge requests on github,
however I'll take patches here as well (or attached to bug reports on
Launchpad). A patch should only change 1 portion of the theme (eg.
changes to the OSD and video menus shouldn't be in the same patch). If
there is a good reason that multiple things are getting changed in a
single patch, I'll might accept it, but it should be a good reason.
Patches also need to come with some description of what was changed.
An example of a good way to list what is changing in a patch is below.

recordings-ui.xml
* Use brightness to clearly tell the user where current focus is.
* Related to the above, actually make the cursor work like a cursor!
  No more leaving a copy behind in the left pane while browsing on the
  right. (Brightness is used to still indicate the active entry in the
  unfocused pane.)
* Remove scrolling from category display (last holdout of the brief
  scrolling experiment). Instead use multiline and a smaller font to
  hopefully gracefully display categories no matter how (reasonably)
  long they might be or what language they are in.

Thanks,

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[ubuntu-mythtv] Change Right/Left menu behavior?

2012-08-21 Thread Thomas Mashos
Per my previous email, I've added this for discussion (it was sent to
me in a private email).

I noticed after migrating to 0.25 (I tend to keep my MythTV setups
stable for long periods) from 0.24 that the Mythbuntu theme was
hardwired to interpret RIGHT as Menu and LEFT as escape, à la the way
all themes behaved pre-0.22.

Given that the great RIGHT/MENU controversy of 2009 is long past
us--with only one MENU button now needed and horizontal themes
common--I'd prefer to revert the theme to the 0.22-0.24 behavior of
having LEFT and RIGHT wrap and relying on the existing MENU and
ESCAPE bindings. Was there a reason for the change? Do you feel
strongly about it on eway or another?

Thanks,

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Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] Mythbuntu theme discussion information

2012-08-21 Thread Jeremy Jones
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Thomas Mashos tho...@mashos.com wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Zoltan Szecsei zolt...@geograph.co.za
 wrote:
  On 2012/08/21 17:03, Thomas Mashos wrote:
 
  As most of you have probably noticed, there have been some recent
  updates to the Mythbuntu theme in both 0.25 and 0.26.
 
 
  Hi,
  I have a pretty much default install of Mythbuntu 12.04, which keeps
 telling
  me that 0.26 is available - but doesn't actually tell me how to get it.
 It
  does not come down through the normal updates I apply.
  I haven't given this any thought, but now that you're mentioning this,
 pray,
  how do I install it ?
 
  (Yes, I'm being lazy, but you prompted the subject :-)  )
 
  Thanks  regards,
  Zoltan
 
 
 
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 It shouldn't be prompting you for the 0.26 theme on a 0.25 install.
 Can you send a screenshot of the message?

 Thanks,

 Thomas Mashos


Are you sure it's not prompting you that the updated theme is available?  I
have gotten that message since Thomas committed two updates in the last
week.

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Re: [ubuntu-mythtv] Change Right/Left menu behavior?

2012-08-21 Thread Thomas Mashos
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:51 AM, Jeremy Jones
jeremy.dwain.jo...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Thomas Mashos tho...@mashos.com wrote:

 On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Jeremy Jones
 jeremy.dwain.jo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Thomas Mashos tho...@mashos.com
  wrote:
 
  Per my previous email, I've added this for discussion (it was sent to
  me in a private email).
 
  I noticed after migrating to 0.25 (I tend to keep my MythTV setups
  stable for long periods) from 0.24 that the Mythbuntu theme was
  hardwired to interpret RIGHT as Menu and LEFT as escape, à la the way
  all themes behaved pre-0.22.
 
  Given that the great RIGHT/MENU controversy of 2009 is long past
  us--with only one MENU button now needed and horizontal themes
  common--I'd prefer to revert the theme to the 0.22-0.24 behavior of
  having LEFT and RIGHT wrap and relying on the existing MENU and
  ESCAPE bindings. Was there a reason for the change? Do you feel
  strongly about it on eway or another?
 
  Being relatively new to MythTV (started in December of 2010) I am not
  familiar with the great 2009 controversy, nor do I understand what the
  post
  is talking about regarding the change.  Unless the change was
  implemented in
  the most recent update that Thomas committed to the theme, mine is still
  working the same as it always has, with the right arrow perorming a
  select
  of the item highlighted (for example in the Watch Recordings screen it
  moves
  from the selected category into the episodes list to the right).  I like
  the
  way that works now, and would be opposed to changing that, but I am not
  sure
  if that is relevant to the posters question.
 
  Can someone please clarify?
 
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 Rather than hitting right to decend into the menus and left to ascend
 back to the top, I believe themes generally require hitting OK to
 decend and BACK to ascend in the menus. The default behavior for all
 themes prior to 0.22 is what you see now in the Mythbuntu theme. This
 default behavior had to change in 0.22 because in 0.22 themes are now
 allowed to have horizontal menus (example
 http://www.mythtv.org/w/images/7/71/Terra_menu3.png). If you open the
 theme chooser and download another theme (IIRC, steppes) you should
 see this behavior of having to hit OK rather than RIGHT to decend into
 a menu.

 Thanks,

 Thomas Mashos


 So the post was asking about changing the MythBuntu Theme to match the
 operation of a horizontal theme?

 Why would that be needed?  What functionality would be gained by doing that?

 It seemed to be a post asking why a change was done when I read it, but
 based on your description the MythBuntu Theme is the same as all themes were
 prior to 0.22, right?

 I for one like it the way it is.  I would have a lot of complaints in my
 house if the right arrow suddenly didn't move the cursor over into the
 episodes pane on the watch recordings screen.  I understand the necessity of
 a horizontal theme, but I don't understand why we would change one that does
 not necessitate that.

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Not exactly. The post was about changing menu navigation to work like
all the other vertical themes, which currently use the default of
OK/ESCAPE rather than RIGHT/LEFT. Currently (AFAIK) we differ in how
navigation is handled in our theme (RIGHT/LEFT) from all other themes
out there (OK/ESCAPE).

Functionality wise I don't think we gain anything from doing it other
than consistency for people going from one vertical theme to another.
I'll let everyone else weigh in on their thoughts before I say which
way I prefer.

Thanks,

Thomas Mashos

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Re: Ubuntu загружается через раз

2012-08-21 Thread -=Devil_InSide=-
,-[Krosheninnikov Artem, 20 August 2012 15:18]:

 20.08.2012 02:07, -=Devil_InSide=- пишет:
 прогоните память тестами.
 насколько мне помнится, на асерах материнки часто стояли дешевые,
 проблемы работы с памятью были и из-за них.

 
 Погонял вчера часа два memtest, 0 ошибок. На очереди проверка жесткого
 диска.
 

мемтест только память тестит.
хорошие тесты были docmem и testmem
хороши были тем, что на плохих матерях висли намертво, иной раз - с узорами 
на экране.
)
побочный эффект, но - все же
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[lucid] linux-lts-backport-natty 2.6.38-15.66~lucid1 uploaded

2012-08-21 Thread Luis Henriques
A new lucid kernel has been uploaded into proposed. 
The full changelog about all bug fixes contained in this upload can be found at:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/linux-lts-backport-natty/2.6.38-15.66~lucid1

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[precise] linux 3.2.0-30.47 uploaded (ABI bump)

2012-08-21 Thread Luis Henriques
A new precise kernel has been uploaded into proposed. Note the ABI bump. 
The full changelog about all bug fixes contained in this upload can be found at:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/linux/3.2.0-30.47

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[precise] linux-ti-omap4 3.2.0-1418.24 uploaded (ABI bump)

2012-08-21 Thread Herton Ronaldo Krzesinski
A new precise kernel has been uploaded into proposed. Note the ABI bump. 
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https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/linux-ti-omap4/3.2.0-1418.24

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[lucid] linux 2.6.32-42.96 uploaded

2012-08-21 Thread Brad Figg
A new lucid kernel has been uploaded into proposed. 
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https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/linux/2.6.32-42.96

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[Bug 1015041] Re: Conflict between NTP and NTPDATE

2012-08-21 Thread JoLa
You can close it.

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[Bug 1014925] Re: API 'v1.1/{tenant_id}/os-hosts' does not return a list of hosts

2012-08-21 Thread Aimon Bustardo
What is the timeframe for getting this released to main ubuntu repo? or
at least in a stable ppa?

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[Bug 1015041] Re: Conflict between NTP and NTPDATE

2012-08-21 Thread Milan Bouchet-Valat
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Invalid

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Re: [Bug 1014925] Re: API 'v1.1/{tenant_id}/os-hosts' does not return a list of hosts

2012-08-21 Thread Adam Gandelman
On 08/20/2012 11:49 PM, Aimon Bustardo wrote:
 What is the timeframe for getting this released to main ubuntu repo? or
 at least in a stable ppa?


The stable PPA should contain the fix, its built directly from 
stable/essex branch.  Dont use those for production tho, its a testing PPA.

We're prepping the 2012.1.2 update into Ubuntu this week, should be out 
soon. Ill let you know when its available for testing.

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[Bug 1006293] Re: exiqgrep fails to parse output of exim4 -bp if the mail message is less than 1k

2012-08-21 Thread Daniel Bond
Is there any chance of this being fixed via StableReleaseUpdates (
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates ) ? Or perhaps it would be
better to request a backport for it?

On a busy production Exim4 server, there will almost allways be an email
in queue, with a size less than 1K. This makes exiqgrep not work, which
again makes monitoring with munin not work. Without monitoring, 12.04 is
not ideal for running production Exim server.

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[Bug 1039420] [NEW] NTP security vulnerability because not using authentication by default

2012-08-21 Thread Alba Nader
*** This bug is a security vulnerability ***

Public security bug reported:

Ubuntu implements so much security one way or another. So much defenses
against network level man in the middle or malicious proxies or wifi
hotspots. Cryptographic verification generally works well but there is
one big drawback: it requires correct date/time.

NTP in Ubuntu does not use any authentication by default, although it is
supported by NTP.

I conclude, that almost no one is using authenticated NTP, because there
are no instructions in a forum or blog how to enable NTP authentication.
Therefore almost everyone uses standard configuration and is at risk.

An adversary can tamper with the unauthenticated NTP replies and put the
users time several years back, especially, but not limited, if the bios
battery or hardware clock is defect. That issue becomes more relevant
with new devices like RP, which do not even have a hardware clock.

Putting the clock several years back allows an adversary to use already
revoked, broken, expired certificates; replay old, broken, outdated,
known vulnerable updates etc.

** Affects: ntp (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

** Visibility changed to: Public

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[Bug 1039420] Re: NTP security vulnerability because not using authentication by default

2012-08-21 Thread Alba Nader
No need to keep this private. Has been publicly discussed but without
proper bug report and the discussion felt into oblivion.

http://ubuntu.5.n6.nabble.com/authenticated-NTP-td4486136.html

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[Bug 1034125] Re: containers can load a kernel to kexec

2012-08-21 Thread Luis Henriques
This bug is awaiting verification that the kernel for Precise in
-proposed solves the problem (3.2.0-30.47). Please test the kernel and
update this bug with the results. If the problem is solved, change the
tag 'verification-needed-precise' to 'verification-done-precise'.

If verification is not done by one week from today, this fix will be
dropped from the source code, and this bug will be closed.

See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how
to enable and use -proposed. Thank you!


** Tags added: verification-needed-precise

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[Bug 1039456] [NEW] Can't turn quotas on

2012-08-21 Thread Pierre Rudloff
Public bug reported:

Quota are configured and used to work fine on my server, but I turned
them off and now it seems I can't turn them on again :

pierre@strasweb:~$ sudo service quota restart
 * Turning off quotas...
   [ OK ] 
pierre@strasweb:~$ sudo service quota start
pierre@strasweb:~$

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
Package: quota 4.00-3
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-29.46-generic 3.2.24
Uname: Linux 3.2.0-29-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.0.1-0ubuntu12
Architecture: amd64
Date: Tue Aug 21 12:24:34 2012
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-Server 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin - Release amd64 
(20120424.1)
ProcEnviron:
 TERM=xterm
 LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: quota
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Affects: quota (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug precise

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[Bug 1039456] Re: Can't turn quotas on

2012-08-21 Thread Pierre Rudloff
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[Bug 1039470] [NEW] 'man sftp' shows a wrong creation date

2012-08-21 Thread Detlef Lechner
Public bug reported:

'man sftp' shows in the last row August 21, 2012.
I expect that 'man sftp' will show the creation date of this manual page and 
not the current date.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
Package: openssh-client 1:5.9p1-5ubuntu1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-29.46-generic 3.2.24
Uname: Linux 3.2.0-29-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.0.1-0ubuntu12
Architecture: amd64
Date: Tue Aug 21 07:36:55 2012
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-Server 11.04 Natty Narwhal - Release amd64 
(20110426)
RelatedPackageVersions:
 ssh-askpass   N/A
 libpam-sshN/A
 keychain  2.7.1-1
 ssh-askpass-gnome 1:5.9p1-5ubuntu1
SSHClientVersion: OpenSSH_5.9p1 Debian-5ubuntu1, OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
SourcePackage: openssh
UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to precise on 2012-05-15 (97 days ago)

** Affects: openssh (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: amd64 apport-bug precise

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[Bug 1039470] Re: 'man sftp' shows a wrong creation date

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[Bug 1038527] Re: apport package hook is not installed

2012-08-21 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/precise-proposed/postfix

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[Bug 990945] Re: samba-common doesn't read workgroup from smb.conf

2012-08-21 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
Hi Abhi,

wrt (1); the realm should usually be the uppercased version of the DNS domain 
name, not the NetBIOS domain name.
(2) is fixed in newer versions of samba4, those present in quantal.

You can install samba4 as something other than a DC by selecting
standalone in debconf. The priority of this question is fairly low at
the moment though, that might explain why you haven't seen it. There is
no particular reason why you would want to run samba4 rather than samba3
as a file server at the moment.

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[Bug 1034125] Re: containers can load a kernel to kexec

2012-08-21 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/precise-proposed/linux-ti-omap4

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[Bug 1034125] Re: containers can load a kernel to kexec

2012-08-21 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/precise-proposed/linux-armadaxp

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[Bug 1030928] Re: ImportError: No module named compressor

2012-08-21 Thread Chuck Short
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1024326 ***
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** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1024326
   django_compressor is required for access to the dashboard

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[Bug 1014925] Re: API 'v1.1/{tenant_id}/os-hosts' does not return a list of hosts

2012-08-21 Thread Aimon Bustardo
That's great news Adam! We very much look forward to its deb release.

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[Bug 914160] Re: [MIR] openvswitch

2012-08-21 Thread Jamie Strandboge
I just verified that 1.4.2+git20120612-9ubuntu2 has PIE and BIND_NOW
enabled. Chuck filed a bug for apparmor, which satisfies this MIR. While
not a condition of this MIR, IMHO it would be good to coordinate with
Ben to see if what is happening for wheezy is good for 12.10.

ACK

** Changed in: openvswitch (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

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[Bug 1039542] [NEW] Please re-enable PIE and BIND_NOW

2012-08-21 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Public bug reported:

On 12.10 asterisk is not compiled with PIE or BIND_NOW. I didn't investigate, 
but this looks like in 12.04 this was dropped in favor of Debian's packaging:
  * Changes dropped from Ubuntu delta as no longer applicable:
...
- debian/control: Build-depend on hardening-wrapper, now handled
  by dpkg-buildflags
- debian/rules: Make use of hardening-wrapper

Please reenable PIE and BIND_NOW. This may need to also be done for
12.04.

** Affects: asterisk (Ubuntu)
 Importance: High
 Status: Triaged


** Tags: regression-release

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[Bug 1039542] Re: Please re-enable PIE and BIND_NOW

2012-08-21 Thread Jamie Strandboge
** Also affects: asterisk (Ubuntu Precise)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: asterisk (Ubuntu Quantal)
   Importance: High
   Status: Triaged

** Changed in: asterisk (Ubuntu Precise)
   Status: New = Triaged

** Description changed:

  On 12.10 asterisk is not compiled with PIE or BIND_NOW. I didn't investigate, 
but this looks like in 12.04 this was dropped in favor of Debian's packaging:
-   * Changes dropped from Ubuntu delta as no longer applicable:
- ...
- - debian/control: Build-depend on hardening-wrapper, now handled
-   by dpkg-buildflags
- - debian/rules: Make use of hardening-wrapper
+   * Changes dropped from Ubuntu delta as no longer applicable:
+ ...
+ - debian/control: Build-depend on hardening-wrapper, now handled
+   by dpkg-buildflags
+ - debian/rules: Make use of hardening-wrapper
  
- Please reenable PIE and BIND_NOW. This may need to also be done for
- 12.04.
+ Please reenable PIE and BIND_NOW. This needs to be done for 12.04.

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[Bug 1039554] [NEW] Please re-enable PIE

2012-08-21 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Public bug reported:

On 12.10, while many compiler options are enabled, PIE is disabled:

$ hardening-check saslpasswd2
saslpasswd2:
 Position Independent Executable: no, normal executable!
 Stack protected: yes
 Fortify Source functions: yes (some protected functions found)
 Read-only relocations: yes
 Immediate binding: yes

This is a regression over 12.04.

** Affects: cyrus-sasl2 (Ubuntu)
 Importance: High
 Status: Triaged


** Tags: regression-release

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[Bug 1034125] Re: containers can load a kernel to kexec

2012-08-21 Thread Serge Hallyn
Verified, with 3.2.0-30.47 kexec -l in a container fails.

** Tags removed: verification-needed-precise
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[Bug 745082] Re: DNS queries go to the wrong DNS server when moving between networks

2012-08-21 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: squid3 (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 1039593] [NEW] squid3 lost compiler hardening options in last update, but shouldn't have

2012-08-21 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Public bug reported:

This bug is against squid3 for now, but this may be a bug in the build
hardening options.

3.1.19-1ubuntu3 reinstated compiler hardening options such that PIE and 
BIND_NOW are in effect. This can be seen with 'hardening-check':
$ mkdir /tmp/squid3-old
$ cd /tmp/squid3-old
$ dpkg-deb -x /tmp/squid3_3.1.19-1ubuntu3_amd64.deb files
$ hardening-check ./files/usr/sbin/squid3
./files/usr/sbin/squid3:
 Position Independent Executable: yes
 Stack protected: yes
 Fortify Source functions: yes (some protected functions found)
 Read-only relocations: yes
 Immediate binding: yes

However, 3.1.19-1ubuntu3.12.04.1 lost PIE and BIND_NOW, even though the only 
change was to the upstart job (see attached debdiff):
$ mkdir /tmp/squid3-new
$ cd /tmp/squid3-new
$ dpkg-deb -x /var/cache/apt/archives/squid3_3.1.19-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb files
$ hardening-check ./files/usr/sbin/squid3./files/usr/sbin/squid3:
 Position Independent Executable: no, normal executable!
 Stack protected: yes
 Fortify Source functions: yes (some protected functions found)
 Read-only relocations: yes
 Immediate binding: no not found!

Using readelf, we see that the ELF is not marked as DYN (dynamic):
$ readelf -lW /tmp/squid3-new/files/usr/sbin/squid3 |grep 'Elf file type'
Elf file type is EXEC (Executable file)

But the old one is:
$ readelf -lW /tmp/squid3-old/files/usr/sbin/squid3 |grep 'Elf file type'
Elf file type is DYN (Shared object file)

Comparing the build logs did not reveal anything significant that I
could see.

** Affects: squid3 (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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[Bug 1039593] Re: squid3 lost compiler hardening options in last update, but shouldn't have

2012-08-21 Thread Jamie Strandboge
** Attachment added: squid3_3.1.19-1ubuntu3_to_3.1.19-1ubuntu3.12.04.debdiff
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1039593/+attachment/3270455/+files/squid3_3.1.19-1ubuntu3_to_3.1.19-1ubuntu3.12.04.debdiff

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[Bug 1039597] [NEW] Please re-enable PIE and BIND_NOW

2012-08-21 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Public bug reported:

12.10's inetd lost PIE and BIND_NOW. See hardening-check output:
/tmp/built-binaries-hIcP6Y/openbsd-inetd/usr/sbin/inetd:
 Position Independent Executable: no, normal executable!
 Immediate binding: no, not found!

This is a regression over 12.04.

** Affects: openbsd-inetd (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: regression-release

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[Bug 1021708] Re: no CLI interface to find all of the tenants which a given user belongs to

2012-08-21 Thread Joseph Heck
Thanks Lamont,

In the V2 API, you're quite correct. We're aiming to have this resolved
with the V3 API - linking to blueprint

** Changed in: keystone
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** Changed in: keystone
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[Bug 1034946] Re: dnsmasq and network manager broken if dnsmasq package has 'enable-dbus'

2012-08-21 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~network-manager/network-manager/ubuntu

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[Bug 1039593] Re: squid3 lost compiler hardening options in last update, but shouldn't have

2012-08-21 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Uhh, I tested the wrong binary due to schroot setup. Sorry for the
noise.

** Changed in: squid3 (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Invalid

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