Re: [ubuntu-art] How fast does your PC boot? - promotional video ad for Ubuntu

2010-07-05 Thread Chris Tooley
On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Samuel Loy sams.silly.st...@gmail.comwrote:

 I like it, I like the choice of music


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Just to be clear

2010-06-23 Thread Chris Tooley
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Sam shadow.h...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Mail List policy on spam is to ignore it, correct?

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I actively mark it as spam in Gmail...

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Just to be clear

2010-06-23 Thread Chris Tooley
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Mr. Andrzejak mrandrze...@gmail.comwrote:

 If you mark it as spam in gmail, wont it consider the list as spam then, or
 are you going after their particular email address.

 / Dave


Google has some really good spam filtration systems. I haven't yet had
anything in this list that wasn't spam get marked as spam - i.e. only the
spam gets put into the spam folder.

:)

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[ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Jerseys

2010-06-23 Thread Chris Tooley
Hi all,

I'd just like to publicly thank Trey Ethridge for getting the Ubuntu Jerseys
organized, I just got my shirt in the mail and it looks amazing. I'll take
some pictures of me riding in it on our local trail here this weekend and
put them up for people to enjoy :D

Thanks Trey!

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[ubuntu-art] Mark Shuttleworth's recent post on windicators

2010-05-03 Thread Chris Tooley
Thought I would point out a recent post for the 1% of people who don't
regularly read Mr. Mark's blog:

http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/333

This gives a good reason on why they chose to put the window controls
on the left.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Mark Shuttleworth's recent post on windicators

2010-05-03 Thread Chris Tooley
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Mark Curtis merkin...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Not as far as I'm concerned.
 Why couldn't the controls have stayed where they were and the Windicators
 put to the left of it? I mean to the immediate left, but on the right hand
 side.

 Look up at the top bar, the indicator applet isn't it the extreme right, the
 shutdown icon is.
 For the consistency the Windicator applet shouldn't be the extreme right the
 shutdown (ie close) button should be

I'm not saying I agree with it, just that this is probably the reason
why they've moved the windows controls by default to the left -
perhaps they are attempting to redefine how we interact with a window
decorator...?  I do like the idea of windicators though. :) Excited to
see how this might be adopted.

I've changed my window controls back to the right hand side after
upgrading to lucid by the way. I couldn't get used to them being on
the left hand side - even though I use a Mac at work! :P  How's that
for weird. I don't associate closing the application with decorations
on the left.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Jersey's

2010-03-25 Thread Chris Tooley
I would just like to chime in and say how impressed I am with these
jerseys :) Is there any way of getting one of these for myself in the
future?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Title Page Design on the Planet

2010-03-15 Thread Chris Tooley
If I may offer some comments.. :) perhaps constructive, perhaps not. I
am not a layout specialist :D

I think a combination of the icons from (c) and the layout of (b)
would work the best.

The missing computer icon might take away from the end user that
this is a computer manual, although there is a mouse pointer - which I
originally thought wasn't needed, but I agree that it conveys the idea
of computer to the user.

I would also like to say that I think the icons in (b) should be
spaced so they are justified with the dot grid, because when they
aren't it competes with the left margin.  The layout of the icons in
(a) works because there is no dot grid, but with the dots, it implies
to me that there is two sections of the title page, the left margin
and the right with graphics - thus when the icons are not the same
width, it breaks up this duality.

I like the drop-cap style with the ubuntu logo as well - it brings
your attention to the very recognizable logo.

Basically, I think what I'm saying is, keep the drop caps CoF and
layout from (b), and add all the icons from (c), perhaps justifying
them with the dots grid.

Thanks for listening :)
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Metacity Button Order Changed

2010-03-10 Thread Chris Tooley
Here's a great post by Ivanka Majic regarding the button order to
further the discussion:
http://www.ivankamajic.com/?p=281

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Metacity Button Order Changed

2010-03-05 Thread Chris Tooley
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't know if this has been mentioned/noticed, but this change of
 default effectively breaks a *load* of metacity themes, including
 Dust, Dust Sand and New Wave and probably hundreds more on
 gnome-look.org. Also Radiance and Ambiance also don't display properly
 in the theme dialog, but obviously that bug can be fixed, making a
 load of themes compatible with vanilla Gnome AND the new Ubuntu
 ordering isn't easy to fix.

I don't think the theme is going to directly affect other themes. As
far as I can remember (correct me if I'm wrong), the button layout is
an option you can set with gnome config.  I certainly know it's an
option for emerald anyway.

 P.S. Also +1 on the muscle memory thing, I just can't get used to
 minimize/maximize this way round, and reversing it breaks the new
 themes. It basically looks like we can have the new themes, or every
 other theme out there, but not both without fiddling in gconf-editor
 each time.

I don't find it hard to switch between Mac OS X and Linux, I don't see
how this would be any different :)  I often hear people complain about
the switch from windows to OS X but they get used to it pretty
quickly.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Metacity Button Order Changed

2010-03-05 Thread Chris Tooley
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Alin-Andrei nilarimog...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 21:34, Chris Tooley euxn...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think the theme is going to directly affect other themes. As
 far as I can remember (correct me if I'm wrong), the button layout is
 an option you can set with gnome config.  I certainly know it's an
 option for emerald anyway.


 A very common scenario: A n00b (and not only!) searches for themes in the
 Software Center, installs the package with Dust and New Wave and tries them
 out: everything will be very messy. You just can do thing like this in a
 default installation...

Doesn't a theme have the ability to define where the window controls
are located in relation to the title, etc?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Metacity Button Order Changed

2010-03-05 Thread Chris Tooley
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:48 PM, SorinN nemes.so...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yes. What was to happen was happened :(

 Very much amateurism on this change (right corner to left corner for
 close / minimize / maximize buttons). Yes amateurism - you hear well
 my friends. A good Human Machine Interaction engineer will not do such
 a move. There are laws and principles. Some Unix friends told me that
 they have a word  do not destroy well established things. I bet they
 know what they say they are Oracle engineers with almost 30 years of
 Unix / Linux behind.

 2 main reasons which prove the amateurism :

 - this move will broke what was good and acknowledged by 90 %  or more PC 
 users
 as  `de facto ` (and I don't hear complains about that).

 - the left side position of those buttons will agglomerate
 (unnecessary) the space where a normal user search for menu bar and
 for 1'st level functions.
 Those buttons has a secondary scope and are rarely used, the right
 corner was a good place for this group according usability standards
 (the fact that MAC use those buttons on the left means nothing they
 are maybe 5%, rest of the world just close their windows from the
 right corner).

 Indeed, everyone know that Gnome need some facial changes but hey -
 why they start to kill the piano ? ..just because ?

 Well it's clear that the team behind that move does not contain
 professionals. If this was just a proposal - there's no excuse for
 that. A single word  amateurism.

 Shuttleworth deserver better peoples because his movement is a crucial
 movement of the modern history. I think he believe in peoples too much
 and that's that's the point where some peoples can see a profit. Too
 bad.

I think we need to keep in mind that they have just released a small
amount of information about the new shift in look, and I would liken
this to a beta release.  I think what they're doing is testing the
waters for certain ideas to see what the reaction of the users will
be.

Personally, it doesn't matter to me which side the controls are on,
but just due to the outcry of detractors I agree that it would be
harmful if they didn't change it back to the right hand side of the
window.

Interestingly related:
http://blog.daviey.com/blogroll/anything-but-the-buttons.html

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Identity

2010-03-04 Thread Chris Tooley
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:46 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:
 Hi!

 No, I don't have to get rid of stalkers ...

 I guess everyone is aware of it already, but if not:
 http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/03/03/refreshing-the-ubuntu-brand/

 There are mixed reactions on Slashdot, Digg, Reddit and a few blogs. Our
 own forums receive the price for dumbest thing I found, someone saying
 Aubergine wouldn't be a professional color :}

To be fair, I saw that comment on Slashdot as well. I don't understand
where that sentiment comes from...

 Recommended reading (unlike those listed before):
 http://www.kilobitspersecond.com/2010/03/03/the-new-ubuntu-lucid-look-an-appraisal/
 http://troy-sobotka.blogspot.com/2010/03/ubuntu-branding.html

Another good link to understand the reasoning behind the colour schema
was posted by Mr. Shuttleworth on his blag:
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/308

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Re: [ubuntu-art] .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update

2010-03-03 Thread Chris Tooley
 Thank you, if you look through this thread, there are a few other
 variations
 I did.
 Adding stroke, trying a different version of the Ubuntu Title Font.
 http://old.nabble.com/file/p27617704/humanity-msword.svg Stroke
 http://old.nabble.com/file/p27626085/humanity-msword2.svg Stroke with
 alternate font

I like the second one.

Why? I think it seems more dynamic, and may convey the idea of
filetype better. The reason I say this is because a W fully
contained within the document could give the impression of it just
being a text file - letters in a document.  Whereas, a W partially
inside but slightly outside would, in my opinion, give the impression
of it being part of the document and at the same time, _not_ part of
the document, perhaps giving more meaning to the typical user  - i.e.
W being the filetype, which is in essence ephemeral to the end user.

:) Just my attempts at logically laying out why I like the second one
better :P  Feel free to rip apart my statement.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Refreshing the Brand comments

2010-03-03 Thread Chris Tooley
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Sam shadow.h...@gmail.com wrote:
  A.H.D.:

 One thing that really grates me is the graphic in the logo is now
 superscript. It’s like a copyright circle or something. I think I much
 preferred it vertically centered on the left of the logo.

 I agree, it would go better on the left

Agreed, it would be nice to make it as large as the font, it seems to
be pushing the new font over the old, recognizable logo.

I really like the rest of it though. That boot splash is going to look
clean and nice. Also, purple FTW!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re : .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update

2010-02-17 Thread Chris Tooley
 The problem is the same for the psd file icon (attached): why putting a
 Photoshop logo? The user only has to know it is an image, with the psd
 extension. The photoshop logo is a nonsense here.

I was under the impression that a PSD file was a PhotoShop Document.
Is this not a proprietary format?

As for the mime-type icons, I'm rather of the impression that using
the text PSD or DOC in the thumbnail is best - most people will
understand the meaning - and it's consistent and easy to implement.
Colouring can imply a specific application or association, and give
more differentiation amongst mime types if needed..

Just my two cents :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update

2010-02-16 Thread Chris Tooley
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Merk merkin...@hotmail.com wrote:

 So I see a lot of nice changes with the humanity icon update.  However the
 icons for .doc, .xls etc are really bothersome.
 The icons are blatantly ripped off the OSX version of Office. Why?
 I can understand having a W be pronounced in the icon for .doc like all
 versions of word, but why make the W exactly like that in the OSX version?
 Most people coming to Ubuntu would be coming from Windows if anything.

 I removed the Mac OS X Word W and replaced it simply with the Ubuntu Title
 Font and already find it an improvement
 http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity.png Current Humanity .doc file
 http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity2.png Slight change to Humanity
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I like it, but I think a little bit of perspective and some highlights
to match the W of the previous version would make it that much better.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update

2010-02-16 Thread Chris Tooley
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 2:41 PM, Mark Curtis merkin...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I deliberately didn't do perspective because I didn't want it to look too
 much like the Mac OS X version. I was thinking of highlights and/or outline,
 where is the svg for the icon stored as that was a quick mockup from the
 png.
 Look at the Wikipedia article on Microsoft Word to see the icon for Mac OS X
 (as well as Windows for 2007 and 2010)

 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:09:45 -0800
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 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] .doc, .xls, etc icons in Humanity Update

 On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Merk merkin...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  So I see a lot of nice changes with the humanity icon update.  However
  the
  icons for .doc, .xls etc are really bothersome.
  The icons are blatantly ripped off the OSX version of Office. Why?
  I can understand having a W be pronounced in the icon for .doc like all
  versions of word, but why make the W exactly like that in the OSX
  version?
  Most people coming to Ubuntu would be coming from Windows if anything.
 
  I removed the Mac OS X Word W and replaced it simply with the Ubuntu
  Title
  Font and already find it an improvement
  http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity.png Current Humanity .doc
  file
  http://old.nabble.com/file/p27613841/humanity2.png Slight change to
  Humanity
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 I like it, but I think a little bit of perspective and some highlights
 to match the W of the previous version would make it that much better.

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I found the icon in the elementary icons set, which you should be able
to download from launchpad.
https://edge.launchpad.net/~elementaryart/+archive/ppa/+packages

The icons are called things like application-msword.svg and
application-vnd-ms-excel.svg.  Perspective may not be needed  -
also, if anyone knows how to transform perspective with inkscape,
please let me know, but I think the gradient used in the original plus
a shadow as per the original may be necessary :) Look at the attached
to see what I mean (i'm currently on a mac so I don't have the ubuntu
font and this is just a quick sketch up anyway).

You should also consider whether this implies microsoft word to your
average user.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] initial burg screenie

2010-02-05 Thread Chris Tooley
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 22:25 -0800, Chris Tooley wrote:

 I still have to do the
 reflections of the images, (...)

 Please look at just the background again. You have light from the top
 shining down unto a floor; it's a room. Now if you add elements in the
 middle of the screen, 2 ways to look at them come to mind: objects
 floating inside the room, or objects on a layer in front of the room.

 But reflections right below the elements imply that they stand on their
 own floor, creating a conflict with the background.

Agreed, however, I was following Lasse Havelund's mockup here:
http://blog.lassehavelund.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/uboot.png
Should I abandon the background and instead keep the reflections? Or,
should I remove the reflections?

I'm slightly inclined to abandon the background as keeping it would
make the grub loader more ubuntu 9.10 specific, however, on the other
hand, I know a lot of people are looking for a unified bootloader,
loading, login screen.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu - 10.4 - Lynx wallpapers

2010-02-05 Thread Chris Tooley
 write: A Mini-Me He-man version of Mark Shuttleworth riding on an
 armored battle lynx that rips a meditating Darth Koala to pieces. All
 this happening on Pandora, with some non-communist heterosexual Smurfs
 watching in the background (one of them smoking a joint).

I would actually really like to see someone make this wallpaper. :D

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Re: [ubuntu-art] initial burg screenie

2010-02-05 Thread Chris Tooley
 Agreed, however, I was following Lasse Havelund's mockup here:
 http://blog.lassehavelund.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/uboot.png
 Should I abandon the background and instead keep the reflections? Or,
 should I remove the reflections?

 If you keep the reflections, please make them subtle. Study how real
 reflections become blurry going downwards.

 Saleel is right, the flat icons suggest to not try to suggest depth.

This is agreeable to me :) I will implement sans reflection.

 I'm slightly inclined to abandon the background as keeping it would
 make the grub loader more ubuntu 9.10 specific, however, on the other
 hand, I know a lot of people are looking for a unified bootloader,
 loading, login screen.

 No reflections doesn't mean you have to keep that background. Opening
 another possibility ain't helpful, is it? ;)

Good point :)

See, this is why I like an open community.  Communication is great :)

Thanks all, I'll update later with a newer picture.

-Chris

P.S. My current iteration of the burg theme works as far as I can see.
Should I upload the theme somewhere, perhaps to launchpad?

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[ubuntu-art] Ubuntu 9.10 artwork

2010-02-04 Thread Chris Tooley
Hello all,

Is there a specific site that lists all the official Ubuntu artwork
the Ubuntu artwork team has put into Karmic? I found this site here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official but more specifically, I'm
looking for the background to this:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/S0HK2oILuBI/FNY/F7wtt9LyZOQ/s1600-h/uboot.png
and the above wiki doesn't have it.

A high quality version would be best, gimp .xcf is preferable.  Can
someone steer me in the right direction?

Basically, I want to try my hand at making a BURG theme, and I need to
start with the background :)

Thank you,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu 9.10 artwork

2010-02-04 Thread Chris Tooley
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Vishnoo drkv...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 20:56 -0800, Chris Tooley wrote:
 Hello all,

 Is there a specific site that lists all the official Ubuntu artwork
 the Ubuntu artwork team has put into Karmic? I found this site here:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official but more specifically, I'm
 looking for the background to this:
 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/S0HK2oILuBI/FNY/F7wtt9LyZOQ/s1600-h/uboot.png
 and the above wiki doesn't have it.

 A high quality version would be best, gimp .xcf is preferable.  Can
 someone steer me in the right direction?

 Basically, I want to try my hand at making a BURG theme, and I need to
 start with the background :)

 Thank you,
 ~Chris


 The background in the system will be here 
 /usr/share/images/xsplash/bg_2560x1600.jpg

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Creating Viral Video's - Is anyone interested?

2010-02-02 Thread Chris Tooley
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 8:59 AM, Joeri Jungschlager
jjungschla...@gmail.com wrote:
 Maybe if I have some spare time I sure help promote the videos via my site
 http://undergroundlinux.webs.com
 But im also bizzy in as young politicion (at least becomming one) for the
 Socialist Party in the Netherlands.
 For a local part.
 So I will not have that many time but I will try.

 On 2 February 2010 17:20, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Joeri -

 Are you interested in Helping out the project then?

 Thanks;

 Liam

 On 2 February 2010 16:08, Joeri Jungschlager jjungschla...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Im now installing Open Shot all those other were not what I was looking
 for.

 On 2 February 2010 17:02, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:

 the only others I can think of are PiTiVi, openshot, Avidemux. kdenlive,
 open movie editor, projectX, or LiVES, or even Blender

 But like I said, it doesn't have to be video editing, it can be
 submitting artwork to be used in the videos, or anything.

 Liam wilson

 On 2 February 2010 15:54, Joeri Jungschlager jjungschla...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I know it I tried it.
 But sometimes I just look for more simple.
 But their seems too be nothing between advanced and technological and
 simple VJ apps.

 On 2 February 2010 16:23, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey Joeri, cinelerra's a good one, really advanced.

 Liam

 On 2 February 2010 15:20, Joeri Jungschlager jjungschla...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Sounds awesome.
 Love it, but I dept if it's going too work.
 Do your best and send me some good video creating progames voor
 Ubuntu

 On 2 February 2010 15:09, Liam Wilson liamwilso...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey all;

 Some of us on the Ubuntu-uk LoCo have come up with an idea for a new
 project - creating a marketing campaign for Ubuntu using Viral Videos -
 short little videos that get a message across, similar to Microsoft's
 efforts, we also discussed a TV advert, but deicded Viral Videos were 
 better
 because:

 It's cheap - no cost of getting it on the air
 Easy to spread - just send a link to friends/family, etc
 More involvement - the project can go on for a longer time period,
 and people from other countries can contribute, too.
 It'll last longer - Any videos made will stay online for as long as
 the video hosting sites are up.

 Before this project actually gets to a head, I'd just like to know
 who would definitely be interested in contributing. And it wouldn't 
 just be
 making videos, remember, we need people to manage any web hosting 
 channels
 we have, people to create themes and or/artwork for the channels, and 
 to be
 possibly be included in the videos, people to keep the wiki updated, 
 poeple
 to suggest ideas that can be used in videos, there are PLENTY of ways 
 to
 contribute, so just because you can't make a video, doesn't mean there 
 won't
 be something for you to do.

 If you're interested, please reply to this message.

 If we get enough people, popey (Alan Pope) has pointed me to these
 two guys who we could ask to help, as long as there's enough interest:

 http://www.youtube.com/user/dribletofanaphorism
 http://www.youtube.com/user/madsrosendahl

 They're both really good at video editing/creation, check out their
 works, once enough replies are had, I'll email them asking to help

 Liam Wilson

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My minor two cents:

I've often noticed that the best viral videos are not the ones that
are specifically created to be viral, but are instead just plain
videos with something weird. I would suggest just creating copious
amounts of video and tag an ubuntu logo on the end... One of the
videos may evoke something trivial in people's brain and thus make it
viral.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Humanity for Quadrapassel

2010-01-19 Thread Chris Tooley
On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Merk merkin...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Merk wrote:

 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 19:24:31 -0800
 From: euxn...@gmail.com
 To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Humanity for Quadrapassel

  On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Kenneth Wimer kw...@ubuntu.com
 wrote:
   On Thursday 07 January 2010 04:32:50 pm Merk wrote:
   The only thing that maybe looks relevant is renderer.cpp, but
 that's
   so
   much code I can't make heads or tails of it.
   I guess I was foolish to think that since the background was an
 easily
   replaceable file, that the blocks would be too.
   It feels like I wasted my time on it, since I have no idea how to
 apply
   it,
   and documentation is awful.

 Ah, Also found it browseable online...

 In any case, relevant code for those who are interested:
 http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-games/tree/quadrapassel/renderer.cpp#n103

 basically, the renderer is hard coding the look and feel in terms of
 cairo objects. You won't be able to style them with external SVG
 unless someone writes a styling engine. At least, that's what it looks
 like to me. :)

 Next step would be to talk to the gnome-game maintainers to see if
 they want to enable skinning of cairo game objects in their code, or,
 at least, in quadrapassel, but I would assume that skinning on all
 apps would be a more useful and interesting endeavour.

 Hope this helps!

 -Chris

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 weren't! I emailed who I think are the maintainers about it.  I would
 think they'd want to rewrite it for theming since currently it says the
 following garbage is derived from the official tango style guide. So
 basically they're calling that part of the code garbage

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 http://old.nabble.com/file/p27201427/blocks.svg blocks.svg

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Those look really good btw. Maybe you can send them to the maintainer
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Humanity for Quadrapassel

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Tooley
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Kenneth Wimer kw...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 On Thursday 07 January 2010 04:32:50 pm Merk wrote:
 The only thing that maybe looks relevant is renderer.cpp, but that's so
 much code I can't make heads or tails of it.
 I guess I was foolish to think that since the background was an easily
 replaceable file, that the blocks would be too.
 It feels like I wasted my time on it, since I have no idea how to apply it,
 and documentation is awful.

 Maybe there is a hacker our there who would be interetsed in helping? Perhaps
 simply talking to the maintainer would get you somewhere. It would be
 worthwhile to at least look into a couple of options ;)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Humanity for Quadrapassel

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Tooley
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Mark Curtis merkin...@hotmail.com wrote:


 Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:13:11 -0800
 From: euxn...@gmail.com
 To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] Humanity for Quadrapassel

 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Kenneth Wimer kw...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  On Thursday 07 January 2010 04:32:50 pm Merk wrote:
  The only thing that maybe looks relevant is renderer.cpp, but that's
  so
  much code I can't make heads or tails of it.
  I guess I was foolish to think that since the background was an easily
  replaceable file, that the blocks would be too.
  It feels like I wasted my time on it, since I have no idea how to apply
  it,
  and documentation is awful.
 
  Maybe there is a hacker our there who would be interetsed in helping?
  Perhaps
  simply talking to the maintainer would get you somewhere. It would be
  worthwhile to at least look into a couple of options ;)
 
  --
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 Where's the code? I might be able to help you figure it out ;)

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 Well Kenneth told me to apt-get source gnome-games, which I did, upon doing
 so a folder gnome-games-2.29.3 was put into ~/  That's where all the code
 is.

Thanks for the instructions :) I'll take a gander and let you know
what I can see.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Humanity for Quadrapassel

2010-01-07 Thread Chris Tooley
 On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Kenneth Wimer kw...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  On Thursday 07 January 2010 04:32:50 pm Merk wrote:
  The only thing that maybe looks relevant is renderer.cpp, but that's
  so
  much code I can't make heads or tails of it.
  I guess I was foolish to think that since the background was an easily
  replaceable file, that the blocks would be too.
  It feels like I wasted my time on it, since I have no idea how to apply
  it,
  and documentation is awful.

Ah, Also found it browseable online...

In any case, relevant code for those who are interested:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-games/tree/quadrapassel/renderer.cpp#n103

basically, the renderer is hard coding the look and feel in terms of
cairo objects. You won't be able to style them with external SVG
unless someone writes a styling engine. At least, that's what it looks
like to me. :)

Next step would be to talk to the gnome-game maintainers to see if
they want to enable skinning of cairo game objects in their code, or,
at least, in quadrapassel, but I would assume that skinning on all
apps would be a more useful and interesting endeavour.

Hope this helps!

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Released] New Wave 0.8.2

2009-12-14 Thread Chris Tooley
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:45 PM, Anton Kerezov ank...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello all Ubuntu-art members,

 I'm very proud to announce the next version of the theme New Wave.
 More about this release here:

 http://ankere.wordpress.com/2009/12/14/new-wave-0-8-2-and-configurator-0-2/


 P.S. The configurator deb installer is included in the pack.

 
 Anton Kerezov
 http://ankere.wordpress.com/

Is there a changelist of the changes? I'm curious on what needed to be
changed :) The previous version seemed like a very well functioning
window decoration to me.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Backgrounds Wiki Policy (was: Human Helix)

2009-12-03 Thread Chris Tooley
 My other concern is that I never again want to deal the wiki surge
 protection warning.

This is a great thing IMO. I remember trying to upload to the wiki and
getting multiple surge protection warnings, as well as when I  was
just trying to view the other submissions...

The only problem with flickr is that people without pro accounts are
limited to a non-current-desktop resolution size.. Would the desktop
selectors care about those size issues? Are they able to contact
flickr users to request larger sizes?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Wallpaper Contest Planning

2009-11-24 Thread Chris Tooley
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:
 Hi!

 Ivanka, Kenneth, Myself, among a few others, discussed the future of our
 Flickr group and the selection process at the UDS:

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Lucid/Wallpaper_Contest_Planning

 Your feedback will be appreciated!

 Feel free to revise the text directly on the wiki, if you are sure about
 it. Of course I will monitor all changes ;)

Reading over the wiki, what exactly does [...]suffered from having
the motive out-of-focus[...] mean?

Just curious in case I want to submit images in the future.. :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Flickr - What is the desire of this group?

2009-11-18 Thread Chris Tooley
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Kenneth Wimer kw...@ubuntu.com wrote:
[snip]
 I've discussed using deviantArt for some ubuntu community work with
 them directly and they asked for a large amount of money to do it ;(

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What about using a place like http://ubuntu-art.org/ or http://gnome-look.org?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Fluid Boot Experience

2009-11-18 Thread Chris Tooley
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:19 PM, mac_v drkv...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-11-16 at 15:37 -0600, Jonathan Blackhall wrote:
 So I got to thinking about the boot experience today and I was
 wondering if anyone had any comments on this.

 First, I think a successful default booting sequence should have 3
 characteristics that are currently not implemented.  1. GRUB2 menu be
 hidden on all machines by default and the usplash image load
 immediately and have it include a small message saying Press Esc for
 more boot options or something to load the GRUB2 menu.  2.The
 transition between usplash and xsplash should be smooth.  3. The
 startup sounds would be refreshed and shortened.  Possibly 4. Make
 sure the transition between xsplash - log in screen - xsplash again is
 smooth as well.

 You know what would be a really excellent way to mash-up all this boot
 stuff?  Take the current usplash (just a white Ubuntu logo on a black
 background) and make the logo explode into MadsRH's Swarm animation
 (or a Humanized version) while having the rest of the xsplash elements
 (background gradient and Ubuntu name) fade in.  For me, it would
 really make this whole boot sequence more integrated and slick.

 What I think would be a cool boot experience:
 -usplash Ubuntu logo appears with message saying Press Esc for more
 boot options, message disappears after 3 sec, leaving Ubuntu logo
 -xsplash starts as same logo as usplash (no transition apparent to
 user), background gradient fades in, Ubuntu logo explodes into Swarm
 animation, the word Ubuntu appears above the Swarm
 -if your Log In screen enabled, transition to it (perhaps have the
 Swarm re-form an Ubuntu logo next to the word Ubuntu??) and have the
 remaining Log In stuff appear
 -Some other quick animation between Log In and a fully loaded desktop
 (maybe?), play a 1-2 sec subtle (unobtrusive) startup sound
 -All of that in 20 sec or less on a normal laptop without an SSD

 Do you think that type of boot experience is possible?  Is it
 desirable?  What would you change?

 Of course this is all just fantasy, but I'm curious what people think
 would be a desirable boot experience.  Do you have hope that your
 expectations will be met in Lucid?

 Cheers,
 J

 -1
 MadsRH had other good ideas , but swarm wasnt the best one.
 The swarm is too reminiscent of the windows7 orbs and also the swarm
 just seems too aimless. they are not arising from some place nor are
 they leading some where.

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I like the idea of something like swarm, but as fireflies in a grassy
field, and a new firefly would pop up once a new proc has been
init'd...

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Fluid Boot Experience

2009-11-16 Thread Chris Tooley
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 2:47 PM, David Callé davidcal...@gmail.com wrote:
 The boot experience talk is on air right now at UDS.
 http://icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/lonestar1.ogg.m3u

 2009/11/16 Saleel Velankar svela...@gmail.com

 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Jonathan Blackhall
 johnny.one@gmail.com wrote:

 Of course this is all just fantasy, but I'm curious what people think
 would be a desirable boot experience.  Do you have hope that your
 expectations will be met in Lucid?

 Cheers,
 J


 I hit power button. Grub loads, I hit enter for ubuntu, no time passes, I
 am presented with kdm/gdm. This is what happens in my fantasy.


My fantasy is always on, no reboot on kernel updates, etc.  This
splash stuff is pretty but in the future I don't see this happening a
lot :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Karmic boot and login - proposed designs

2009-08-10 Thread Chris Tooley
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 6:55 AM, Mat
Tomaszewskimat.tomaszew...@canonical.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Not so long ago we announced the revamp of boot and login experiences in
 Ubuntu and received a great response from the Artwork Team, with many
 interesting concepts being submitted. Thanks again for all your hard work.

 The deadline approaches fast and the time is now to make final
 decisions. We have just returned from the Platform Sprint in Dublin,
 where folks directly responsible for making Ubuntu release happen on
 time have gathered. The design team's role was to propose final
 concepts, communicate them to the developers and make sure they can be
 implemented on time. We have received a lot of valuable feedback and
 revised our proposals accordingly.

 The initial assumptions, however, remain unchanged. The Foundations
 Team's goal is to start the X server as fast as possible (3-4 seconds on
 a reference machine) and therefore, Usplash will not be used in most
 cases. A new splash screen (Xsplash) will be developed on top of the X
 server and enable a smooth  transition into the GDM and the user session.

 The latest designs can be viewed here:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot/Demo. We're looking
 forward to your feedback!

 Many thanks,

 Mat

I love the transition effects, but, as has been mentioned before, I
was expecting to see a darker theme, in line with the loading screen
colours - the transition from dark brown to brighter human felt a bit
disconnected :)

If we think about it, Mac uses a grey background with a simple logo
and throbber, even though at first glance it seems to disconnect with
a background, it does match the window decorations well.

Just my 2 cents.
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Hello World

2009-07-26 Thread Chris Tooley
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Chris Tooleyeuxn...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Antonio
 Robertsanto...@hellocatfood.com wrote:
 Hi Chris,

 I've downloaded the Breath icon set. As I've never done this many
 icons before I just wondered if there's any particular way to go about
 colouring them or any recommended working methods.

 Ant

 2009/7/24 Chris Tooley euxn...@gmail.com:
 I would love to see what you could do with icons. Your art is surreal
 and colourful (I like it!), which I think would make an awesome icon
 set.  Maybe use Breathe as a base and color it in your style?

 -Chris

 On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Kenneth Wimerkw...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi Antonio,

 On Wednesday 22 July 2009 11:02:46 pm Antonio Roberts wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I just thought I'd introduce myself. I'm Antonio (sometimes known as
 HelloCatFood). I've been using open source software exclusively for my
 artwork for nearly two years and made the switch to Ubuntu about 4
 months ago. I'm quite interested in helping out in the art department
 in whatever way I can.

 I look forward to talking with you all and being involved in a great
 Linux distro

 Great to have you on-board! There is quite a lot going on...check out the
 wiki for more info, as well as this mailing list for questions or specific
 queries.

 Hope to hear from you soon ;)

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 Well I mainly just thought you could use your unique colouring style
 in an icon set - and since it seemed like you haven't done an icon set
 before, I suggested Breathe as a base.. :)  I don't know your
 technique but whatever you did for this:
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/hellocatfood/3745753569/
 Would make some excellent icons IMO.

 I think would make a really cool icon set :)

 -Chris


To clarify a bit more, I mean to make an entirely new set..? Of course
this requires a lot of time and effort and was a sort of offhanded
comment .. :\

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Hello World

2009-07-23 Thread Chris Tooley
I would love to see what you could do with icons. Your art is surreal
and colourful (I like it!), which I think would make an awesome icon
set.  Maybe use Breathe as a base and color it in your style?

-Chris

On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Kenneth Wimerkw...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi Antonio,

 On Wednesday 22 July 2009 11:02:46 pm Antonio Roberts wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I just thought I'd introduce myself. I'm Antonio (sometimes known as
 HelloCatFood). I've been using open source software exclusively for my
 artwork for nearly two years and made the switch to Ubuntu about 4
 months ago. I'm quite interested in helping out in the art department
 in whatever way I can.

 I look forward to talking with you all and being involved in a great
 Linux distro

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Hello World

2009-07-23 Thread Chris Tooley
 On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Kenneth Wimerkw...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hi Antonio,

 On Wednesday 22 July 2009 11:02:46 pm Antonio Roberts wrote:
 Hi everyone,

 I just thought I'd introduce myself. I'm Antonio (sometimes known as
 HelloCatFood). I've been using open source software exclusively for my
 artwork for nearly two years and made the switch to Ubuntu about 4
 months ago. I'm quite interested in helping out in the art department
 in whatever way I can.

 I look forward to talking with you all and being involved in a great
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Gah! Sorry for the previous top post! Once again, this time with effort:

I would love to see what you could do with icons. Your art is surreal
and colourful (I like it!), which I think would make an awesome icon
set.  Maybe use Breathe as a base and color it in your style?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Wave User Requests

2009-07-17 Thread Chris Tooley
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:31 AM, Anton Kerezovank...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello everybody,

 This thread is about telling me what you would like to have
 changed/added in New Wave so that it better fits your needs. Fell free
 to express everything.
 [snip]

 Anton

I would like to see what you can do with a white version. Or a really
lightly coloured one, maybe a sandy/cream coloured one (light green)?
I love New Wave btw. It's my current theme on Ubuntu at my home
desktop.

Thanks for your hard work in New Wave!
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes

2009-07-17 Thread Chris Tooley
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Or even just lose the paper entirely @16px?

 I though about this but, although it give us more space for details, I don't
 know if it's such a good idea.

 I'd like to try it. See how it works out.


If I may offer a suggestion, I think removing the paper border would
allow more detail in the icon that represents a specific filetype -
giving more detail and definition in all sizes.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] mimetypes

2009-07-17 Thread Chris Tooley
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote:

 For 16px, sure. That's what I wanna try. On the other sizes I want to
 still have the paper to clearly show its a file.

Let me start off this by saying: In my opinion ;)

I think it would show more definition of filetype without the paper
background as a border.  I also think it's an unnecessary trope left
over from older systems that tried to represent digital information in
a physical representation.  If you think about it conceptually, the
paper is only there to serve as a reminder that the file is a file.
But what else is it going to be? If we have these distinguishing marks
(video negative, photos, music note) we may as well go the whole
shebang.

Just my opinion though :D

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re styling the Logo, Circle of Friends 2009

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Tooley
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Oliver Scholtz 1scholli...@yahoo.de wrote:
 :-D ... It won't be goodlooking on small sizes (22, 16). Surely not.

 Oliver

 Am Donnerstag, den 02.07.2009, 19:02 +0300 schrieb Anton Kerezov:
 В 08:28 -0700 на 02.07.2009 (чт), Phoenix Corleone написа:
 
  So, here is the link:
  http://itmages.ru/view.php?action=viewid=6613key=ae9b8d

 Very good work! I like it even more than the current logo because it
 inspires more community spirit and interconnection.

 
  I'd like to know your opinion about the restyled logo! Can it be used in
  9.10 Karmic?=)

 I can't answer this as I'm not competent enough but somebody else could
 do it ;)


 Anton



Besides the fact that it looks awesome (I'll try to make an SVG of it
later on today), I don't think Ubuntu will change their logo any time
soon - it's branding after all :)

This is just my opinion on the matter though :D

That would be a good logo for an Ubuntu derivative though.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Re styling the Logo, Circle of Friends 2009

2009-07-02 Thread Chris Tooley
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Steve Dodiersidnio...@gmail.com wrote:
 I don't think the current official logo is that out-dated... Breaking
 building is extremely dangerous for a big company, and the logo is the first
 part of branding. People, with the new logo, may think that this is
 _another_ Ubuntu and not give it trust.

 Also, even if the logo is damn sexy, its assymetry gave me the thought that
 every of the 3 humans on the logo was embrassing the one on his right but
 rejecting the one on his left. That's not really a circle of friends
 anymore ;)

 I hope your logo will be used, but i dont think the official logo should be
 replaced for a good 3-10 years.

Hey all, I've made an SVG, please excuse me if I'm not supposed to
attach it in a mailing list but I don't really have any other place to
put it :) Unless I do and I just don't know it...?

I've had to take some minor liberties in order to make sure it's a
uniform and consistent design, with arcs that are actually based upon
ellipses.  I basically just did some cutting with some skewed spheres
and rotated them to the approx. positions.

the colours are official RGB ubuntu colours as per:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
Obviously this isn't my original artwork so I'll just say I converted
to SVG pro bono ruski publico ;)  the original artist has full
discretion over the copyright.

Let me know what you think :)
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Re: [ubuntu-art] New Boot Experience in Karmic

2009-06-29 Thread Chris Tooley
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Jonathan
Blackhalljohnny.one@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 1:52 PM, spg76 sebastianpo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I don't know if I have to announce it here but I made an animation for the
 boot and upload it to the wiki.
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Karmic/Boot#spg76%27s%20boot

 I think that looks really good.  Simple, but not too simple, quick (since we
 won't have too long to look at it!) and the fading works.

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What would it look like without the outer glow effect? I'm just
thinking that a straight ubuntu logo might be more clean looking?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Sorry

2009-06-19 Thread Chris Tooley
Doesn't the wiki have versioning? Or does that not work with attachments?

-Chris

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:59 AM, mac_vdrkv...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Micha Reischuck wrote:

 I could restore nearly all the png from the svgs,


 It seems that Michote has used a nautilus script to convert ALL the svg
 to png  at once,

 So certain exported png's did not come out well, so anyone who has
 submitted might want to recheck their submissions

 cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Breathe:[submissions tuesday 19]

2009-06-19 Thread Chris Tooley
I really like version 3 over the other two for
preferences-desktop-theme. It seems more interesting; especially at
lower resolutions.

With preferences-desktop-wallpaper the brush seems to fade into the
background colour.

I really like these icons though. Keep up the good work!

-Chris

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote:
 daniel planas armangue wrote:
 this afternoon has been very productive for me, I hope your comments on
 the new icons

 apps preferences-desktop-theme (versions 1,2,3)
 apps preferences-desktop-wallpaper
 apps wmtweaks compiz fusion manager
 apps fusion-icon
 apps gnome-panel-notification-area

 PD:hope you like!


 Nice. :) I'd like Sebastien to give his opinion. If positive, I'll upload.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Sorry

2009-06-19 Thread Chris Tooley
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Cory K.coryis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Chris Tooley wrote:
 Doesn't the wiki have versioning?

 It does.

 Or does that not work with attachments?

 Correct.

 Please do not top post.


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tell me of a plugin or something?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] extra wallpaper package for Karmic

2009-05-12 Thread Chris Tooley
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:09 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:
 On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 14:13 +0200, Kenneth Wimer wrote:

 For Karmic we would like to include a set of high quality desktop
 backgrounds which are organized according to a predefined set of
 adjectives which describe emotional atmospheres, slogans (so to speak)
 for the way an image makes you feel.

 - All around the world
 - Interlinked, distributed
 - Desktop as gate to the world
 - Community/Collaboration
 - Freedom (to be, to learn, to explore, to communicate, to express
 yourself)
 - Diversity
 - Tool: stable, reliable, fast, refined

 ?

Are these the adjectives or the suggestions?
I think Nature would be a good one as well :)

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Re: [ubuntu-art] extra wallpaper package for Karmic

2009-05-11 Thread Chris Tooley
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:13 AM, Kenneth Wimer kw...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Other operating systems offer an extra selection of desktop backgrounds to
 their users. Often they are based on different themes typically applied to
 photography (nature, for instance).

 For Karmic we would like to include a set of high quality desktop
 backgrounds which are organized according to a predefined set of adjectives
 which describe emotional atmospheres, slogans (so to speak) for the way an
 image makes you feel.

 In order to accomplish this we call on anyone and everyone to submit images
 which are freely licensed and follow the guidelines for inclusion.

 Let me know if you have any ideas for improving this idea, or if you'd like
 to help coordinate things, etc.

 Thanks,
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I have a full colour version of the image located here:
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Daisy+Daisy..+Give+me+your+answer+do?content=46757

Is this the sort of image you're looking for?

How would I submit it for consideration?

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Weather Icons

2009-05-07 Thread Chris Tooley
Well for glow I imagine it being more like a white shadow, surrounding
the moon, ala (allow me to insert my previous artwork here):
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/KDE+moon+(KDE+SVG)?content=19303
ignore the third image, that was done a long time ago :P

So you have a really luminous looking moon.

-Chris

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 8:25 PM, Saleel svela...@gmail.com wrote:
 spg76 wrote:

 It looks great.
 About the shadows, I'm with Cory, I think there's not need.
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 In that case, consider it dropped. The glow idea looks good but not for a
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Weather Icons

2009-05-06 Thread Chris Tooley
I would think the opposite to a shadow actually, how about a glowing moon?

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Cory K. coryis...@gmail.com wrote:
 Saleel wrote:
 I have been working on a weather-clear-night icon
 Here is what I have so far (see attached png render.)

 Reactions?

 +1 from me. Keep it going but be mindful on the shadows. Do we really
 need them? (considering the realism)


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[ubuntu-art] SVG icons and default colour scheme

2009-04-27 Thread Chris Tooley
I was browsing the icons for Breathe and something occurred to me, is
it possible to create SVGs with scripts in them? i.e. is the SVG
engine complete enough that adding some scripting, or adding a
scripting engine would be trivial?

The main reason I'm curious about this is that we could possibly
define SVGs with a default colour, then if the colour is different in
the system then we could change the colour - for instance, in the
current BreatheIconSet submissions, devices/computer has an orange
background on the screen. It looks great, and fits excellently with an
orange based theme, but what about a theme that is blue-colour based?
Wouldn't it be cool if we could just say make this colour match (such
and such) colour defined in appearance settings?

I suppose for colours, we wouldn't really need scripting but if we had
scripting in SVG it would open up an entire world of possibilities.

If this is well received I will put forth this suggestion on
brainstorm, if it isn't already. :)

Thanks,
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Animated logo

2009-04-23 Thread Chris Tooley
On the topic of circle of friends, what about having a bunch of people ala
the AOL guy (highly stylized), walk together, discuss something, then turn
into the circle of friends - cue ubuntu name and voila!

Also, imagine this as a plymouth bootloader...

On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:

 On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 17:23 +0200, Steve Dodier wrote:

  I don't see the point of using Flash (closed and proprietary
  technology) for the Logo of an openSource OS. I think you should be
  able to do the same with some SVG and JavaScript, or with an animated
  GIF.

 GIF would be terrible inefficient.

 SVG and JavaScript means you don't have a decent authoring environment.
 While it is not given this had been created using Flash, that tool makes
 it straightforward like no free software does.


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Re: [ubuntu-art] Ubuntu Powder

2009-04-21 Thread Chris Tooley
You know, there are probably some women on this mailing list... Maybe some
that just joined ;)  Perhaps it would be good to garner some feedback from
the very audience targeted?

-Chris

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Matthew Nuzum n...@bearfruit.org wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  @Matthew
 
  It's been about 3 weeks since the last word on this. This was an idea
  with alot of steam that has seem to fallen down. Like all of us I know
  you have many duties but there was a lot of interest in this and I hope
  you haven't missed your opportunity Did you say you were gonna have some
  research up like 2 weekends ago?.
 

 Sorry for the delay, the jaunty release is consuming all of my time.
 Don't consider this abandoned yet, Jaunty is out the door on Thursday
 and around next Monday I'll be going through my inbox and todo list to
 set priorities.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Mandating usage of free tools.

2009-04-14 Thread Chris Tooley
Just thought I would throw in the fray that Photoshop can be run on Ubuntu
using wine.  Thus, I wouldn't equate photoshop to windows by any stretch of
imagination :)

However I do recognize that proprietary formats do not foster open
collaboration.

Personally, I use Inkscape for almost everything I do but I'm not much of a
raster-man :P

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Re: [ubuntu-art] Inkscape export and resizing

2009-04-07 Thread Chris Tooley
This is probably something completely different from this discussion, but
it's something I think might be helpful...(maybe everyone already knows
this)

If you're working on something at 16x16 pixels, and output to 16x16, the
antialiasing looks better depending upon the dimensions of your vectors and
where you place them.

For instance, I can draw a box in a 16x16 working area 15 pixels wide, and
center it, but the edges will look like crap - even though it's a straight
line, the antialiasing will blur the lines - due to the 15 pixel box being
defined on half pixels.  However, if I draw a 14 pixel wide box and center
it, then the icon is much cleaner.

i.e. at 16 pixels, with a 14 pixel box, there is a well defined pixel on
either side. So I get a clean white full pixel, instead of being half a
pixel, which inkscape then proceeds to dirty up with it's valiant attempts
at antialiasing.

One could conceivably apply similar thoughtfulness to other vector/image
size combinations in order to suppress dirty pixels.

Hope I'm not blowin' smoke!
~Chris

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Oliver scholli...@yahoo.de wrote:

 Am Dienstag 07 April 2009 17:23:00 schrieb Thorsten Wilms:
  Hi!
 
  Some say that higher quality output can be obtained by exporting from
  Inkscape with the desired size x a-power-of-2, e.g double, fourfold or
  eightfold.
 
  It seems that is the case, but not always.
 
  I did an experiment with just black text on white:
  http://www.piccdrop.com/images/1239116989.png
 
 Inkscape-Bitmapexport (180dpi) and resize it with gthumb is always the best
 result. It's a harmony between sharp and smooth and craps better with one
 colour to the next one. Think this is an argument for this method. Only
 Inkscape in Bitmapexport fails a little bit in round things (light smooth
 is
 missing).

 Oliver

  The GIMP and gThumb examples are scaled down from an Inkscape export of
  eightfold size, using Cubic interpolation in GIMP and High-Quality in
  gThumb, which is likely to be cubic, too.
 
  For the difference images, I used GIMP's Difference layer mode. The
  gThumb/GIMP difference is not entirely black, there are pixels with a
  minimal value, but visually, this difference is pretty much
  non-existent.
 
 
  I would like to see suggestion for how to get the worst case for
  Inkscape, where this method could shine the most.
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] user-desktop

2009-04-03 Thread Chris Tooley
I wonder if we can generate a desktop image on the fly with compiz, sans
open windows? In this way it is an actual representation of the user's
desktop and not just a standard one...?

Just a thought,
-Chris

On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 6:01 PM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 spg76 wrote:
  I uploaded to the wiki a new icon for user-desktop.
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions
 

 So aside from my previous technical note, I'm wondering if we want to go
 with this literal screenshot kinda image or the desktop mat we see
 in other sets? Personally, I'm curious to see what can be done with the
 mat idea. :)


 -Cory K.

 PS: Extra work ain't too bad. I just said something so it doesn't happen
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Retreat from Ubuntu Artwork

2009-04-02 Thread Chris Tooley
Oh snap! you totally got me hahahaha

On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 6:54 AM, Smartboy smartboyath...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:14 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:
  Hi!
 
  With the possible exception of some work for The Fridge, I will pull out
  of all ubuntu-related artwork!
 
  I'm worried about the move of dumping brown for Karmic and have been
  less and less satisfied with the distribution.
 
  I'm preparing to join the Fedora artwork community instead, now that it
  seems save to say they will not make another mistake like the artwork
  for 7, which was too imaginative and hence distracting from the cold,
  hard work we all should be doing.
 
  (see http://pthree.org/2009/02/05/ubuntu-vs-fedora-artwork/)
 
  Sadly they have an elitist approach and don't just let everyone in
  before submitting artwork meeting some quality level, but I'm
  confident I can make it and look past this silly step.
 
  Too bad I didn't finish my wallpaper collection, but I think I can turn
  them all blue for Fedora!
 
  I will miss the short and to-the-point, heart-felt comments we sometimes
  got to enjoy here, but I have to move on.
 
 
  Farewell!
 
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Re: [ubuntu-art] Simple logo for Karmic.

2009-04-02 Thread Chris Tooley
I like it!

It looks like he's surprised though.. All koalas I've ever seen are kinda
sleepy looking - which might fit with the karmic idea..?

-Chris

2009/4/2 Saleel svela...@gmail.com

 Yeah, I know Jaunty is not even out the door yet.

 But I have been doing research on koalas. (Well I call it research, it is
 in retrospect, looking at baby koalas, and awwing away the afternoon.)
 Attached is a simple idealized logo that I have made. I believe someone
 called Ajcham suggested having a simple idealized animal logo for jaunty,
 and I rather liked that idea. I think we should try that for karmic.


 Suggestions/ Comments all appreciated.

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Re: [ubuntu-art] [Breathe] Additions to Categories

2009-03-26 Thread Chris Tooley
I like how Apple handles their windows logo. It's reminiscent of Windows
without infringing on their copyright or trademarks. For example, I copied
it to use for a VirtualMachine link on my desktop:
http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Boot+Camp+Logo+SVG?content=56439

Obviously it's not that popular ;) but I thought maybe this could be an idea
starter.. :)

Thanks
~Chris

On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Cory K. coryis...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Ryan Prior wrote:
  On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Oliver Scholtz 1 scholli...@yahoo.de
 wrote:
 
  One ask? How are the ideas for Wine? The glass wine is not really a good
  icon, because in 24x24 and dark themes it isn't well for seeing it.
  Maybe the Windows-flag would be better? Hey it's only a opinion ... :D
 
 
 
  I don't like the wine glass either, and think that something like the
  Windows flag would be better. Thorsten did a wonderful icon for Wubi (
  http://wubi-installer.org/) so perhaps we can take inspiration from that
 and
  create an icon that says here be Windows software rather than here be
 a
  weird pun.
 
 

 Now while I'm not totally against dumping the WINE glass (the win logo
 might be fine) we have to remember this is also playing with upstream
 branding. Something I'm keen to try to avoid changing radically.


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