Re: your thoughts wanted on bzr team UDD focus

2009-12-08 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
(Sorry aaron didn't reply all first time around)

2009/12/8 Aaron Bentley aa...@canonical.com:

 However, we can ignore svn issues because we're switching to bzr-svn.
 (We hope that will solve many of our problems, but whichever problems
 remain will be *different*)


Is there a bug I can subscribe to witch tracks switching to bzr-svn
for imports? Cause I am currently pushing bzr-svn branch myself.


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Re: new member and SRU Verification

2009-12-08 Thread Vikram Dhillon
Thanks a lot for getting back to me. Alright now to answer you
questions :) I have been working with my mentor, av` (Andrea Veri) who
has been teaching me mergers, basic packaging and such so that involves
using fakeroot and installing the required packages is thus taken care
of. For reproducing bugs, I have done a lot of that, for example I
confirmed a bug regarding evolution mail and then send it upstream which
is going to get fixed in the next GNOME release. I have also filed a lot
of different bugs [1], now is the part where I need your help: like you
said in the messae, SRU team get a lot of bugs in the email. This helps
me focus on something rather than wandering in launchpad. I am going to
start working with SRUVerification from the queue and see how that goes.
One of the biggest reasons I want to join SRU verification is to get
more involved in the bug work and get better at it :)

[1]
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~dhillon-v10

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On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 00:29 -0800, Steve Beattie wrote: 
 Hi Vikram!
 
 On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 11:20:24PM -0500, Vikram Dhillon wrote:
  How is everyone doing? I have been a member of Ubuntu testing
  team, but I just learned how to test ISO's and such for releases.
 
 That's great. Lucid Alpha 1 is coming this week, so any help you can
 give on that front will be appreciated.
 
  I understand packaging software in Ubuntu, so I wanted to join SRU
  Verification team to take on more responsibility and learn more. Please
  give me more guidance on what steps do I need to take further.
 
 Sure, thanks for your interest.  For the record, SRUs are
 Stable Release Updates, and SRU Verifications are the process
 we go through to verify a proposed SRU so that it can be
 released as an update.  The SRU process is documented at
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates.
 
 SRU verification is a great way to participate in the Ubuntu project
 as well as learn more about the software itself. Basically, what we'd
 like to see for membership in sru-verification is a demonstration of
 understanding of how to perform an SRU verification, typically in
 the form of some example bugs where feedback was given (similar to
 the bugcontrol team application process).
 
 Basically, an applicant needs to demonstrate that they're able to:
 
  1) install the relevant software packages,
  2) attempt to reproduce the bug (hopefully successfully)
  3) install the versions from the -proposed pocket
  4) again, attempt to reproduce the bug (hopefully failing),
  5) look for regressions introduced by the update
 
 In your case, I'm unable to find any any such feedback in any of the
 bug reports that the sru-verification is subscribed to; if you could
 point me to some examples, I'd be happy to approve your membership.
 (Fair warning, the sru-verification team is subscribed to a large
 number of bug reports, and thus gets a non-trivial amount of
 bugmail. Filtering incoming email is recommended.)
 
 There are other ways to contribute to the sru-verification team;
 currently, there are a couple different web pages we use to track
 which packages are in the proposed queue:
 
   http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html (archive admin 
 view)
   http://people.canonical.com/~sbeattie/sru_todo.html (mostly covering main)
 
 Unifying and improving those would appreciated,
 as well as helping to improve the documentation at
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification
 would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks again for your interest!
 


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[ubuntu-in] Meeting in Hyderabd

2009-12-08 Thread nagendra prasad
Hi All,

I am glad to announce that their is another community in Yahoo called
Linguhyd. Its all about linux. I am also a member of this community. So, we
are having a meeting on either 13th Dec or 20th Dec in Hyderabad (Still we
are deciding). If anyone in this mailing list are living in *Hyderabad *feel
free to mail me for more details because you all are invited for that
meeting as well. Lets meet over their and share some knowledge with each
other.

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Meeting in Hyderabd

2009-12-08 Thread satyaakam goswami
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:42 PM, nagendra prasad nagendra802...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi All,

 I am glad to announce that their is another community in Yahoo called
 Linguhyd. Its all about linux. I am also a member of this community. So, we
 are having a meeting on either 13th Dec or 20th Dec in Hyderabad (Still we
 are deciding). If anyone in this mailing list are living in *Hyderabad *feel
 free to mail me for more details because you all are invited for that
 meeting as well. Lets meet over their and share some knowledge with each
 other.


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[ubuntu-in] A newbies review of karmic Koala 9.10

2009-12-08 Thread Ramnarayan.K
http://skattertech.com/2009/12/ubuntu-9-10-karmic-koala/

Its quite interesting, esp the simple comparisions with you know what $$

HP DV5 owners should also check it out

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Re: [ubuntu-in] Problem while upgrading from 9.04 to 9.10

2009-12-08 Thread ಮಲ್ಲಿಕಾರ್ಜುನ್
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:48 AM, shan chak shankholove2...@yahoo.co.inwrote:


  hi,
 Alternate CD 9.10 installation is very simple.
 Follow the instructions here:

 http://shankhs4u.blogspot.com/2009/11/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-904-to-910.html
 you won't get any problem.

No Software is perfect. I have faced some problems while upgrading, So I
suggest you to backup before upgrading


 The indian mirror will be faster for you but there are lots of places from
 where you can download the alternate CD.
 If there is any problem then mail.
 Please note- Don't use internet updates while upgrading from alternate
 CD.You can update later using
 sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
 http://shankhs4u.blogspot.com


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 *I am trying to upgrade my ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 using a cd(requested from
 cannonical).But as usual a window should pop up asking about upgrade but
 this does not happen.But the cd is being read.

 I tried this command
 *

 gksu sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade

 But it shows an error


 *sh: Can't open /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade

 Now what to do to upgrade using that cd without using network upgarde.

 That cd works fine as I have installed ubuntu 9.10 using on 2 lappy.
 My 9.04 is up to date.
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Comment sauvegarder les pièces join tes de tous les messages d'une section de évolution?

2009-12-08 Thread Philippe Gauthier
Bonjour Steve,

 car dans les menus d'Evolution, je n'ai rien trouvé sinon de le faire
 un par un...

Dans la version d'Evolution de Karmic, je vois un bouton Tout
enregistrer... sous les en-têtes lorsqu'il y a plus qu'une pièce jointe
dans le message. Si il n'y a qu'une seule pièce attachée, le bouton se
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Comment sauvegarder les pièces joint es de tous les messages d'une section de évolut ion?

2009-12-08 Thread Steve Nadeau
Salut!
Cette option ne sert qu'à enregistrer les messages, pas les pièces jointes!
j'ai déjà essayé toutes les options dans les menus...

:(

2009/12/8 Philippe Gauthier philippe.gauth...@deuxpi.ca

 Bonjour Steve,

  car dans les menus d'Evolution, je n'ai rien trouvé sinon de le faire
  un par un...

 Dans la version d'Evolution de Karmic, je vois un bouton Tout
 enregistrer... sous les en-têtes lorsqu'il y a plus qu'une pièce jointe
 dans le message. Si il n'y a qu'une seule pièce attachée, le bouton se
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Comment sauvegarder les pièces joint es de tous les messages d'une section de évolut ion?

2009-12-08 Thread Steve Nadeau
je reprends ma réponse pour l'envoyer à la liste...

2009/12/8 Steve Nadeau steven...@gmail.com

 Salut!
 comme je le mentionnais, le problème n'est pas d'enregistrer les pièces
 jointes d'un message, mais toutes les pièces jointes de tous les messages
 d'un coup...

  quand il y a près de 10 messages, je voudrais éviter de les passer un
 par un...

 merci encore!

 2009/12/8 teza tsalio...@orange.fr

 Salut, clque droit sur la pièce jointe et enregistrer sous.
 Amts
 Teza

 /...
 Le mardi 08 décembre 2009 à 09:22 -0500, Steve Nadeau a écrit :
  Bonjour à tous!
 
 
 
  j'aimerais pouvoir récupérer toutes les pièces jointes qui sont dans
  les courriels de mon evolution, existe-t-il une commande pour faire
  ça?
 
 
  car dans les menus d'Evolution, je n'ai rien trouvé sinon de le faire
  un par un...
 
 
  merci beaucoup.
 
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Comment sauvegarder les pièces join tes de tous les messages d'une section de évolution?

2009-12-08 Thread Philippe Gauthier
Le mardi 08 décembre 2009 à 10:30 -0500, Steve Nadeau a écrit :
 Salut!
 Cette option ne sert qu'à enregistrer les messages, pas les pièces
 jointes!

Euh... négatif chef, le bouton Tout enregistrer qui apparait entre les
en-têtes du message et le corps du message enregistre bel et bien toutes
les pièces jointes et les pièces jointes seulement. Est-ce qu'on utilise
la même version d'Evolution ?

$ apt-cache policy evolution
evolution:
  Installé : 2.28.1-0ubuntu2
  Candidat : 2.28.1-0ubuntu2
 Table de version :
 *** 2.28.1-0ubuntu2 0
500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 2.28.1-0ubuntu1 0
500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages

 
 2009/12/8 Philippe Gauthier philippe.gauth...@deuxpi.ca
 Bonjour Steve,
 
  car dans les menus d'Evolution, je n'ai rien trouvé sinon de
 le faire
  un par un...
 
 
 Dans la version d'Evolution de Karmic, je vois un bouton Tout
 enregistrer... sous les en-têtes lorsqu'il y a plus qu'une
 pièce jointe
 dans le message. Si il n'y a qu'une seule pièce attachée, le
 bouton se
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Comment sauvegarder les pièces join tes de tous les messages d'une section de évolution?

2009-12-08 Thread Martin Gamache
Il veut pouvoir enregistrer en même temps toutes les pièces jointes de
plusieurs courriels.

Ce serait plutôt utile...


 

On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 11:03 -0500, Philippe Gauthier wrote:

 Le mardi 08 décembre 2009 à 10:30 -0500, Steve Nadeau a écrit :
  Salut!
  Cette option ne sert qu'à enregistrer les messages, pas les pièces
  jointes!
 
 Euh... négatif chef, le bouton Tout enregistrer qui apparait entre les
 en-têtes du message et le corps du message enregistre bel et bien toutes
 les pièces jointes et les pièces jointes seulement. Est-ce qu'on utilise
 la même version d'Evolution ?
 
 $ apt-cache policy evolution
 evolution:
   Installé : 2.28.1-0ubuntu2
   Candidat : 2.28.1-0ubuntu2
  Table de version :
  *** 2.28.1-0ubuntu2 0
 500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates/main Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  2.28.1-0ubuntu1 0
 500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages
 
  
  2009/12/8 Philippe Gauthier philippe.gauth...@deuxpi.ca
  Bonjour Steve,
  
   car dans les menus d'Evolution, je n'ai rien trouvé sinon de
  le faire
   un par un...
  
  
  Dans la version d'Evolution de Karmic, je vois un bouton Tout
  enregistrer... sous les en-têtes lorsqu'il y a plus qu'une
  pièce jointe
  dans le message. Si il n'y a qu'une seule pièce attachée, le
  bouton se
  nomme Enregistrer sous...
 
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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Comment sauvegarder les pièces joint es de tous les messages d'une section de évolut ion?

2009-12-08 Thread Steve Nadeau
Salut Philippe!
j'ai mal compris ce que tu m'avais dit donc, désolé, mais tu n'as pas bien
compris ma demande! :)

je ne veux pas ouvrir chaque message pour y enregistrer les pièces jointes,
mais bien enregistrer toutes les pièces jointes de tous les messages sans
les ouvrir... (environ 10 cent mille)...

merci encore!

j'ai plus l'impression que si cela est possible ce doit être avec un
script...

bonne journée!

2009/12/8 Philippe Gauthier philippe.gauth...@deuxpi.ca

 Le mardi 08 décembre 2009 à 10:30 -0500, Steve Nadeau a écrit :
  Salut!
  Cette option ne sert qu'à enregistrer les messages, pas les pièces
  jointes!

 Euh... négatif chef, le bouton Tout enregistrer qui apparait entre les
 en-têtes du message et le corps du message enregistre bel et bien toutes
 les pièces jointes et les pièces jointes seulement. Est-ce qu'on utilise
 la même version d'Evolution ?

 $ apt-cache policy evolution
 evolution:
  Installé : 2.28.1-0ubuntu2
  Candidat : 2.28.1-0ubuntu2
  Table de version :
  *** 2.28.1-0ubuntu2 0
500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 2.28.1-0ubuntu1 0
500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages

 
  2009/12/8 Philippe Gauthier philippe.gauth...@deuxpi.ca
  Bonjour Steve,
 
   car dans les menus d'Evolution, je n'ai rien trouvé sinon de
  le faire
   un par un...
 
 
  Dans la version d'Evolution de Karmic, je vois un bouton Tout
  enregistrer... sous les en-têtes lorsqu'il y a plus qu'une
  pièce jointe
  dans le message. Si il n'y a qu'une seule pièce attachée, le
  bouton se
  nomme Enregistrer sous...

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Comment sauvegarder les pièces joint es de tous les messages d'une section de évolut ion?

2009-12-08 Thread Steve Nadeau
Salut Martin!
c'est en plein ça! :)
mais je cherche et ne trouve encore rien sur le sujet!

bonne journée!

2009/12/8 Martin Gamache martin.gama...@gmail.com

  Il veut pouvoir enregistrer en même temps toutes les pièces jointes de
 plusieurs courriels.

 Ce serait plutôt utile...





 On Tue, 2009-12-08 at 11:03 -0500, Philippe Gauthier wrote:

 Le mardi 08 décembre 2009 à 10:30 -0500, Steve Nadeau a écrit :
  Salut!
  Cette option ne sert qu'à enregistrer les messages, pas les pièces
  jointes!

 Euh... négatif chef, le bouton Tout enregistrer qui apparait entre les
 en-têtes du message et le corps du message enregistre bel et bien toutes
 les pièces jointes et les pièces jointes seulement. Est-ce qu'on utilise
 la même version d'Evolution ?

 $ apt-cache policy evolution
 evolution:
   Installé : 2.28.1-0ubuntu2
   Candidat : 2.28.1-0ubuntu2
  Table de version :
  *** 2.28.1-0ubuntu2 0
 500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com karmic-updates/main Packages
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
  2.28.1-0ubuntu1 0
 500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages

 
  2009/12/8 Philippe Gauthier philippe.gauth...@deuxpi.ca
  Bonjour Steve,
 
   car dans les menus d'Evolution, je n'ai rien trouvé sinon de
  le faire
   un par un...
 
 
  Dans la version d'Evolution de Karmic, je vois un bouton Tout
  enregistrer... sous les en-têtes lorsqu'il y a plus qu'une
  pièce jointe
  dans le message. Si il n'y a qu'une seule pièce attachée, le
  bouton se
  nomme Enregistrer sous...

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Comment sauvegarder les pièces joint es de tous les messages d'une section de évolution?

2009-12-08 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
Steve Nadeau wrote:
 Salut Philippe!
 j'ai mal compris ce que tu m'avais dit donc, désolé, mais tu n'as pas
 bien compris ma demande! :)
 
 je ne veux pas ouvrir chaque message pour y enregistrer les pièces
 jointes, mais bien enregistrer toutes les pièces jointes de tous les
 messages sans les ouvrir... (environ 10 cent mille)...

Si t'es pas obligé de rester sur Evolution ou si c'est une job à faire
un seule fois...

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/556

Thunderbird 1, Evolution 0 ;)

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Comment sauvegarder les pièces joint es de tous les messages d'une section de évolut ion?

2009-12-08 Thread Steve Nadeau
Salut Fabian!

merci de l'info! c'est en plein ce que je veux, mais avec Evolution...

si je ne trouve rien d'ici à mon retour chez moi ce soir, je vais
m'organiser pour installer Thunderbird...

bonne journée!

Steve :)

2009/12/8 Fabian Rodriguez magic...@ubuntu.com

 Steve Nadeau wrote:
  Salut Philippe!
  j'ai mal compris ce que tu m'avais dit donc, désolé, mais tu n'as pas
  bien compris ma demande! :)
 
  je ne veux pas ouvrir chaque message pour y enregistrer les pièces
  jointes, mais bien enregistrer toutes les pièces jointes de tous les
  messages sans les ouvrir... (environ 10 cent mille)...

 Si t'es pas obligé de rester sur Evolution ou si c'est une job à faire
 un seule fois...

 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/556

 Thunderbird 1, Evolution 0 ;)

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Comment sauvegarder les pièces joint es de tous les messages d'une section de évolut ion?

2009-12-08 Thread Steve Nadeau
Salut Philippe!

c'est pas grave, je vais probablement suivre les conseils de Fabian sur ce
point, je verrai si je continue avec Thunderbird, moi personnellement, mon
usage est via le web... c'est pour un dossier en justice que j'ai besoin
d'extraire plein de documents...
bonne journée!

2009/12/8 Philippe Gauthier philippe.gauth...@deuxpi.ca

 Salut Steve,

  j'ai mal compris ce que tu m'avais dit donc, désolé, mais tu n'as pas
  bien compris ma demande! :)

 C'est probablement mon café de ce matin qui n'était pas assez fort.
 J'aurais pu allumer avant d'envoyer mon deuxième message :)

 Le mardi 08 décembre 2009 à 11:28 -0500, Fabian Rodriguez a écrit :
  Si t'es pas obligé de rester sur Evolution ou si c'est une job à faire
  un seule fois...
 
  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/556
 
  Thunderbird 1, Evolution 0 ;)

 Pour avoir jeté un coup d'œil au système de plugins d'Evolution, je dois
 avouer que c'est pas en cinq minutes que je vais pouvoir écrire
 l'extension qui permettrait de le faire... Je concèderais le point à
 Thunderbird aussi pour à peu près n'importe quoi qui pourrait être
 considéré comme « power user », que ce soit la gestion des messages, le
 support pour GPG, etc. Par contre, pour un usage de bureau, Evolution
 est pas mal propre, efficace et s'intègre de mieux en mieux avec le
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[Ubuntu-QC] Préparation pour rendre le team Q uébec officiel

2009-12-08 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
Bonjour,

En vue de se préparer pour demander le statut de team officiel pour
Ubuntu Québec, je voudrais demander aux abonnés à cette liste de prendre
quelques minutes pour vous joindre à l'équipe sur le site Launchpad.net:
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qc/+join

Ça demande d'avoir un compte Launchpad (si vous n'en avez pas déjà un).

Ceux et celles qui voudraient aider à préparer cette demande peuvent
consulter:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved

et/ou aider à modifier:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuebecTeam/ApprovalApplication

N'hésitez pas à me trouver sur le canal IRC d'Ubuntu QC:
http://webchat.freenode.net/?randomnick=1channels=ubuntu-qcprompt=1

Merci!

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Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Préparation pour rendre le team Q uébec officiel

2009-12-08 Thread FireWave
Voilà une bonne nouvelle !

Rémi Menegon

Fabian Rodriguez a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 En vue de se préparer pour demander le statut de team officiel pour
 Ubuntu Québec, je voudrais demander aux abonnés à cette liste de prendre
 quelques minutes pour vous joindre à l'équipe sur le site Launchpad.net:
 https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qc/+join
 
 Ça demande d'avoir un compte Launchpad (si vous n'en avez pas déjà un).
 
 Ceux et celles qui voudraient aider à préparer cette demande peuvent
 consulter:
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingApproved
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 9.10 problem.

2009-12-08 Thread Gordon
Barry Titterton wrote:
 On Wed, 2009-12-02 at 13:55 +, Gordon wrote:
 I have a problem with 9.10 on my Toshiba L40 Satellite 2GB RAM, dual 
 core T2330 1.6GHz processors which i don't /think/ happened with 9.04.
 Every so often, randomly, there's a loud click and the machine 
 instantly switches off. Happens with the kernel that ships with 9.10, 
 and the updated kernel.
 The same doesn't happen with Windows 7 on the same machine - dual boot.
 Anyone had this?
 Any fix for it?


 Gordon,
 
 I had similar problems with an old Toshiba caused by overheating.
 Toshiba laptops have a reputation for over heating. I have also heard
 that Windoze is better at managing power usage on laptops so this may
 explain why Win7 does not have the same problem. Have you tried cleaning
 out the CPU heat exchanger? I'm sure our more knowledgeable members will
 be able to tell me if I've got my information wrong.
 
 Barry
 
 

Interestingly, I've reverted to 9.04 and it's not doing it!


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[ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again...

What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via
ethernet? Internet Tv's are available but i am enquiring tv's that will
allow streaming from a pc without any sort of box in between!


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Andy Partington
2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking
 again...
  What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via
  ethernet?

 Which exact make and model of TV can do this?

  Internet Tv's are available but i am enquiring tv's that will

 What is your definition of an internet TV?

  allow streaming from a pc without any sort of box in between!
 

 You'd need a TV which had media playback software. I've not seen any,
 but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

 Cheers,
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They do exist and i believe they just use DLNA, I've been meaning to look
into it myself but have found no time.

http://www.dlna.org/digital_living/how_it_works/

http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/737044-samsung-le-a750-full-hd-50-000-1-dlna-1gb-flash-memory-ethernet.html

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
I think the gadget show covered a few internet tv's yesterday. Mostly
connect via a ethernet to a router and the tv's installed widgets display
info like weather and pictures from flickr etc.

I also havent seen any tv that have the media playback software
installed..but it does sound like thats the kind of tv i am wanting.

2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking
 again...
  What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via
  ethernet?

 Which exact make and model of TV can do this?

  Internet Tv's are available but i am enquiring tv's that will

 What is your definition of an internet TV?

  allow streaming from a pc without any sort of box in between!
 

 You'd need a TV which had media playback software. I've not seen any,
 but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

 Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
interesting reading

2009/12/8 Andy Partington andy.parting...@gmail.com

 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:

  I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking
 again...
  What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via
  ethernet?

 Which exact make and model of TV can do this?

  Internet Tv's are available but i am enquiring tv's that will

 What is your definition of an internet TV?

  allow streaming from a pc without any sort of box in between!
 

 You'd need a TV which had media playback software. I've not seen any,
 but that doesn't mean they don't exist.

 Cheers,
 Al

 --
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 https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/



 They do exist and i believe they just use DLNA, I've been meaning to look
 into it myself but have found no time.

 http://www.dlna.org/digital_living/how_it_works/


 http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/737044-samsung-le-a750-full-hd-50-000-1-dlna-1gb-flash-memory-ethernet.html

 Regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Philip Stubbs
2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com:
 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking again...
 What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via
 ethernet?

 Which exact make and model of TV can do this?

http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?

2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk

 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com:
  2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking
 again...
  What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via
  ethernet?
 
  Which exact make and model of TV can do this?


 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
This looks like a good tv...im hoping to spend upto £500 on a tv!

2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk

 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com:
  2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for asking
 again...
  What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to pc's via
  ethernet?
 
  Which exact make and model of TV can do this?


 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread James Milligan
On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
 Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?

 2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk

 2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
  2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
 mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
  I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
 asking again...
  What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
 pc's via
  ethernet?
 
  Which exact make and model of TV can do this?

 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F

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100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die 
Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then perhaps 
it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's Corrie 
you're watching, you won't notice the difference.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.

2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com

 On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
  Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?
 
  2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
 
 
  2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
   2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
  mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
   I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
  asking again...
   What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
  pc's via
   ethernet?
  
   Which exact make and model of TV can do this?
 
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
 
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 100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die
 Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then perhaps
 it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's Corrie
 you're watching, you won't notice the difference.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Alan Pope
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.


I think you mean 100Hz which refers to the refresh rate of the TV.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refresh_rate

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread James Milligan
On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote:
 Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.

 2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com

 On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
  Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?
 
  2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk
 mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
 mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
 
  2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com
 mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
   2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
 mailto:javada...@gmail.com
  mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
   I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
  asking again...
   What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
  pc's via
   ethernet?
  
   Which exact make and model of TV can do this?
 
 
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
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 100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die
 Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then
 perhaps
 it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's Corrie
 you're watching, you won't notice the difference.

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http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html

You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't 
the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you 
whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per 
second'.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
Well more would be better obviously. But if 100mhz works for games these
days then it should be fine!



2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com

 On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote:
  Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.
 
  2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com
 
  On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
   Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?
  
   2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  
   2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com
  mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
  mailto:javada...@gmail.com
   mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
   asking again...
What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
   pc's via
ethernet?
   
Which exact make and model of TV can do this?
  
  
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
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  100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die
  Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then
  perhaps
  it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's
 Corrie
  you're watching, you won't notice the difference.
 
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 http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html

 You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't
 the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you
 whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per
 second'.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy
as there seems to be a lot of problems.

Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and
connect to the tv

2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com

 If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p mode. Most
 modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films are shot at
 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of watching films.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz mode,
 in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like something
 made for TV.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 Joseph


 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, James Milligan li...@lake54.com wrote:

 On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote:
  Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.
 
  2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com
 
  On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
   Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?
  
   2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  
   2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com
  mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
  mailto:javada...@gmail.com
   mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
   asking again...
What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
   pc's via
ethernet?
   
Which exact make and model of TV can do this?
  
  
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
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  100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as Die
  Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then
  perhaps
  it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's
 Corrie
  you're watching, you won't notice the difference.
 
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 http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html

 You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't
 the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you
 whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per
 second'.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Alan Pope
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy
 as there seems to be a lot of problems.
 Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and
 connect to the tv


Or get a media playback box such as a popcornhour which would be
quiet/silent and just work.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Joseph Hughes
Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello!

I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the latest
beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's fantastic, and
thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of playing back 1080p HD
stuff.

It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the
lounge.

Joseph

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:17 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:

 looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy
 as there seems to be a lot of problems.

 Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and
 connect to the tv

 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com

  If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p
 mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films are
 shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of watching
 films.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz mode,
 in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like something
 made for TV.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 Joseph


 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, James Milligan li...@lake54.com wrote:

 On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote:
  Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.
 
  2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com
 
  On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
   Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?
  
   2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  
   2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com
  mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
  mailto:javada...@gmail.com
   mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
   asking again...
What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
   pc's via
ethernet?
   
Which exact make and model of TV can do this?
  
  
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
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  100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as
 Die
  Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then
  perhaps
  it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's
 Corrie
  you're watching, you won't notice the difference.
 
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 You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't
 the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you
 whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per
 second'.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
does anyone have one of these? any bad points?



2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its
 infancy
  as there seems to be a lot of problems.
  Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and
  connect to the tv
 

 Or get a media playback box such as a popcornhour which would be
 quiet/silent and just work.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Beard
On 08/12/2009 12:13, Joseph Hughes wrote:
 If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p 
 mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films 
 are shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of 
 watching films.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz 
 mode, in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like 
 something made for TV.

 Joseph

I gather some of the more expensive TV's will do this, I don't think my 
Philips 720p TV will.  I'd suggest maybe looking in some of the 
independent magazines such as What TV  Hifi (I think it's called) as 
you'd probably get much better advice than say going into Currys/Comet 
etc or a main dealer (such as the Sony Centre or Panasonic Centre).

Personally if it was me, I'd also be looking at a TV which could do 
1080p (Full HD) as a minimum now, especially with a budget of around 
£500.  I believe you may be able to pick up a 37 or 42 LCD for around 
that although looking at Comet's site, LED TV's (i.e. TV's which are 
backlit with hundreds of LEDs rather than one or two lights) are nearer 
to the £600 mark for a 32.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
i wasnt at first but im inching towards a 37 or 42 now!!

Not too bothered about the backlighting though!

2009/12/8 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 On 08/12/2009 12:13, Joseph Hughes wrote:
  If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p
  mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films
  are shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of
  watching films.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p
 
  When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz
  mode, in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like
  something made for TV.
 
  Joseph

 I gather some of the more expensive TV's will do this, I don't think my
 Philips 720p TV will.  I'd suggest maybe looking in some of the
 independent magazines such as What TV  Hifi (I think it's called) as
 you'd probably get much better advice than say going into Currys/Comet
 etc or a main dealer (such as the Sony Centre or Panasonic Centre).

 Personally if it was me, I'd also be looking at a TV which could do
 1080p (Full HD) as a minimum now, especially with a budget of around
 £500.  I believe you may be able to pick up a 37 or 42 LCD for around
 that although looking at Comet's site, LED TV's (i.e. TV's which are
 backlit with hundreds of LEDs rather than one or two lights) are nearer
 to the £600 mark for a 32.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
Will this accept a wireless keyboard and mouse? Will it connect to a
wireless router?

Have you installed the newest ubuntu on there?how does it run? any graphics
card issues?

2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com

 Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello!

 I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the
 latest beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's
 fantastic, and thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of playing
 back 1080p HD stuff.

 It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the
 lounge.

 Joseph

 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:17 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:

 looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy
 as there seems to be a lot of problems.

 Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and
 connect to the tv

 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com

  If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p
 mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films are
 shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of watching
 films.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz mode,
 in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like something
 made for TV.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 Joseph


 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, James Milligan li...@lake54.comwrote:

 On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote:
  Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.
 
  2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com
 
  On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
   Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?
  
   2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  
   2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com
  mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
  mailto:javada...@gmail.com
   mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
   asking again...
What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
   pc's via
ethernet?
   
Which exact make and model of TV can do this?
  
  
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
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  100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as
 Die
  Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then
  perhaps
  it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's
 Corrie
  you're watching, you won't notice the difference.
 
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 http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html

 You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't
 the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you
 whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per
 second'.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Beard
On 08/12/2009 12:17, javadayaz wrote:
 looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its 
 infancy as there seems to be a lot of problems.

 Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room 
 and connect to the tv

You can get media streaming devices such as this one for £60 + delivery: 
http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=186127

It actually runs Linux (it's a MIPS based CPU) and will play standard 
definition video, 720p and 1080p in a variety of formats (H264, 
Divx/XVID etc).  I've not got one myself but from what I have been 
reading up on it, it's not a bad player.  It appears it will also 
connect to Samba/Windows shares or to a uPNP server.  Only thing is it 
doesn't have wireless (although there is a kernel module there in the 
firmware for a Realtek adaptor, so it might possibly be able to hack it 
to work).

Other than that, there are a couple of Bluray players out there (I 
believe from LG and Samsung) which will also play media over a network.  
The LG BD390 does this and has wifi, but it's nearer to £300 (although 
you may be able to get it cheaper online) - 
http://www.buyblurayplayers.com/lg-bd390-blu-ray-player-review-3523

Or as you say, put a PC in the front room, ideal if you already have 
one.  If not, maybe something like the Acer Aspire Revo which I believe 
Alan said he has, which IIRC is about £150 ish, but it doesn't have an 
optical drive.

I guess it really depends on what you want to play.  Personally I'm 
probably going to go down the PS3 40GB route and get one of those 
Hisense boxes for streaming media (I'm currently using the wife's PC 
attached to the TV) which will give me Bluray playback on the PS3, 
HD-DVD on the XBOX 360 (eventually when I buy a HD-DVD drive cheaply off 
eBay) and everything else on the Hisense box.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Beard
On 08/12/2009 12:38, javadayaz wrote:
 i wasnt at first but im inching towards a 37 or 42 now!!

 Not too bothered about the backlighting though!

I'm sure you'd be able to pick up one for under £500 then.

Just doing a quick search I found this: http://www.ebuyer.com/product/164419

I'd recommend doing some reading up though, and maybe look at visiting 
your local Richer Sounds store as they would be more likely to set the 
TV up correctly, that is one of the things about checking out TVs in 
store, some of the stores might not have them setup right, or maybe 
running standard definition content on them.

It might also be worth signing up to the AV Forums at www.avforums.com 
as they seem to be a clued up bunch to do with anything AV (TV, 
DVD/Bluray, Hifi etc).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Alan Pope
Fixing your top posting so it makes sense...

 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com

 Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello!
 I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the
 latest beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's
 fantastic, and thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of playing
 back 1080p HD stuff.
 It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the
 lounge.

2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 Will this accept a wireless keyboard and mouse?

The Acer Aspire One comes with a USB keyboard and mouse, but it has
plenty of USB ports so I don't see why you can't use a wireless one.
Only gotcha would be remotely turning it on via wireless keyboard, I
suspect that would fail.

 Will it connect to a wireless router?

It has wifi, so yes.

 Have you installed the newest ubuntu on there?how does it run? any graphics
 card issues?


Ubuntu 9.10 works fine. I run Boxee on mine, and it plays HD content
just lovely.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
and no problems with the unit heating up when playing hd?

2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 Fixing your top posting so it makes sense...

  2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com
 
  Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello!
  I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the
  latest beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's
  fantastic, and thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of
 playing
  back 1080p HD stuff.
  It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the
  lounge.

 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  Will this accept a wireless keyboard and mouse?

 The Acer Aspire One comes with a USB keyboard and mouse, but it has
 plenty of USB ports so I don't see why you can't use a wireless one.
 Only gotcha would be remotely turning it on via wireless keyboard, I
 suspect that would fail.

  Will it connect to a wireless router?

 It has wifi, so yes.

  Have you installed the newest ubuntu on there?how does it run? any
 graphics
  card issues?
 

 Ubuntu 9.10 works fine. I run Boxee on mine, and it plays HD content
 just lovely.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Alan Pope
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 and no problems with the unit heating up when playing hd?


It has a fan on the GPU, which spins up when under heavy load. I don't
hear it because it's behind the telly. If you put your ear near it
you'll hear the sound of the fan but nothing major.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me!

So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung your tv's
on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is visible?

2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  and no problems with the unit heating up when playing hd?
 

 It has a fan on the GPU, which spins up when under heavy load. I don't
 hear it because it's behind the telly. If you put your ear near it
 you'll hear the sound of the fan but nothing major.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Alan Pope
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
 thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me!
 So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung your tv's
 on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is visible?


Chase them into the wall, cover, fill, paint.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
I dont think thats an option...its only just been painted. :(

2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com

 2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com:
  thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me!
  So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung your
 tv's
  on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is visible?
 

 Chase them into the wall, cover, fill, paint.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Beard
On 08/12/2009 13:26, javadayaz wrote:
 thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me!

 So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung 
 your tv's on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is 
 visible?

Hmmm, embed the cables in the wall and plaster over them?

I've been looking into this as our TV is on an arm (it was a comprimise 
between me and the wife, I wanted it wall mounted, she didn't).  I've 
looked into running cables from every socket on the TV (2 x HDMI, 2 x 
SCART, Component video) and then embedding them in the wall, then having 
them plugged into couplers to connect to the cables for everything that 
needs to be plugged in.  That way they're hidden and still usable.

Or on the other hand you could maybe look at running cables in the walls 
and have faceplates with short cables from the faceplates to the TV.

Maybe something like two of these... 
http://www.revealcable.co.uk/acatalog/info_AA3819.html

That way you can run standard HDMI cables embedded in the wall to 
another location and have faceplates at each end of the cable.  Then 
you'd just need a short HDMI cable from the TV to the faceplate, and 
another from the other faceplate to your devices (PC, Bluray etc).

Of course you've also got the cost of getting a plaster in unless you 
can do plastering yourself (I'm lucky as my dad is a decorator and can 
do it for me :-) ), or other than that, you could look at trunking.

I gather for HDMI cables there are no differences between the cheap 
cables and the more expensive cables, at least up to about 15 metre 
cable runs.  I certainly have a cheap HDMI cable of about 5 metres and 
it does the job, I gather it's a case of because it's digital it'll 
either work or it won't.

On the other hand with analogue connections (standard VGA, component 
video, composite video, analogue audio, SCART) the cable quality can 
make a difference.

If you're just going to connect everything using HDMI (DVD/Bluray 
player, PC, Sky/Freesat HD/Freeview HD box) then you may find a couple 
of cheap cables would do the job.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Beard
On 08/12/2009 13:37, javadayaz wrote:
 I dont think thats an option...its only just been painted. :(

Trunking then, painted :-)

Or if you have bags of money... 
http://www.keene.co.uk/electronics/multi.php?mycode=GV800

Personally I'd go for trunking or embedding the cables in the walls, 
might be cheaper.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
Just did a quick search and found this
http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/lcd-mounts.html

Scrolling down to the hide the cables subtitle the picture shows a little
box under the telly. This looks like the best option without having to
plaster anything or break open the wall!

2009/12/8 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 On 08/12/2009 13:26, javadayaz wrote:
  thats cool. So far this looks like the best option for me!
 
  So for something totally unrelated, for those of you who have hung
  your tv's on a wallhow do you hide the wires so that nothing is
  visible?

 Hmmm, embed the cables in the wall and plaster over them?

 I've been looking into this as our TV is on an arm (it was a comprimise
 between me and the wife, I wanted it wall mounted, she didn't).  I've
 looked into running cables from every socket on the TV (2 x HDMI, 2 x
 SCART, Component video) and then embedding them in the wall, then having
 them plugged into couplers to connect to the cables for everything that
 needs to be plugged in.  That way they're hidden and still usable.

 Or on the other hand you could maybe look at running cables in the walls
 and have faceplates with short cables from the faceplates to the TV.

 Maybe something like two of these...
 http://www.revealcable.co.uk/acatalog/info_AA3819.html

 That way you can run standard HDMI cables embedded in the wall to
 another location and have faceplates at each end of the cable.  Then
 you'd just need a short HDMI cable from the TV to the faceplate, and
 another from the other faceplate to your devices (PC, Bluray etc).

 Of course you've also got the cost of getting a plaster in unless you
 can do plastering yourself (I'm lucky as my dad is a decorator and can
 do it for me :-) ), or other than that, you could look at trunking.

 I gather for HDMI cables there are no differences between the cheap
 cables and the more expensive cables, at least up to about 15 metre
 cable runs.  I certainly have a cheap HDMI cable of about 5 metres and
 it does the job, I gather it's a case of because it's digital it'll
 either work or it won't.

 On the other hand with analogue connections (standard VGA, component
 video, composite video, analogue audio, SCART) the cable quality can
 make a difference.

 If you're just going to connect everything using HDMI (DVD/Bluray
 player, PC, Sky/Freesat HD/Freeview HD box) then you may find a couple
 of cheap cables would do the job.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
Yup i think this is the best idea...

Do places like wicks sell these?

2009/12/8 Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk

 On 08/12/2009 13:37, javadayaz wrote:
  I dont think thats an option...its only just been painted. :(

 Trunking then, painted :-)

 Or if you have bags of money...
 http://www.keene.co.uk/electronics/multi.php?mycode=GV800

 Personally I'd go for trunking or embedding the cables in the walls,
 might be cheaper.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Beard
javadayaz wrote:
 Yup i think this is the best idea...

 Do places like wicks sell these?

You mean trunking?

Yep, Wickes, BQ etc should sell Trunking.  It's not too expensive as 
far as I know.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
Cool I will look into this. Thank you.

On 8 Dec 2009 14:25, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:

javadayaz wrote:  Yup i think this is the best idea...   Do places like
wicks sell these?
You mean trunking?

Yep, Wickes, BQ etc should sell Trunking.  It's not too expensive as
far as I know.

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[ubuntu-uk] WinTV HVR-900 USB Freeview stick

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Beard
Hi folks,

I've borrowed a WinTV HVR-900 USB stick from a friend of mine to see if 
I can get any reception in my area before forking out for one however 
I've run in to a couple of problems and wondered if anyone had used one 
of these sticks?

The device appears to support both analogue and DVB-T (Freeview) TV 
however when I plug the device in it only appears to enable the analogue 
side of things (it comes up as /dev/video1 as I have a webcam on my laptop).

I've downloaded and installed the firmware in /lib/firmware as per the 
instructions on the LinuxDVB web site
 and it appears to pick it up and I've even tried compiling the v4l-dvb 
drivers too which didn't appear to make any difference.

Just to check it wasn't me going mad, I tried the dvb-utils scan utility 
and also Kaffene, both of which doesn't work (and I can't find a 
/dev/dvb directory either).

If it helps, the output from /var/log/messages is here: 
http://pastebin.com/m34f1048f

I just wondered if anyone else had one of these sticks actually working 
under Ubuntu 9.10?  (I'm running kernel 2.6.31-16-generic-pae).

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[ubuntu-uk] On becoming an Ubuntu Member

2009-12-08 Thread Alan Bell
Last Tuesday I was accepted by the EMEA regional membership board as an
Ubuntu Member, which is pretty cool. The reason I finally got round to
putting myself forward is because I wanted to understand the process a
bit better. This is some background and my current understanding of the
process, and some of my previous misunderstandings.

I have been working with others on the #ubuntu-women IRC channel to gain
an improved understanding of the proportion of women in Ubuntu to
establish firstly if there is an underrepresentation that needs to be
fixed. We found lots of anecdotal evidence to suggest there was, but not
much hard data. I was also a little unsure of the objectives of the
group, obviously to increase the numbers of women, but by how many?
Measuring the number of women in a somewhat amorphous community is a
difficult thing, who do you count? Someone who just uses Ubuntu? Do you
count my daughters who do their homework and play Frozen Bubble on
Ubuntu? Fortunately there is the Ubuntu Member process where people who
have made a sustained and significant contribution to the community are
recognised. Those who are accepted are added to a group on Launchpad so
they are nice and easy to identify. I took the list of names from
Launchpad and made a Google docs spreadsheet with the list, everyone on
the #ubuntu-women IRC channel was invited to edit the sheet and help
figure out who was female. Not an easy task, but by looking at profiles,
wiki pages, blogs, flickr photos and asking people on IRC they completed
the list. The final result was 23 women out of a total of 520 members,
or 4.42%. I have subsequently done some further analysis on the dates
people were made members and I started a page of interesting graphs and
statistics at http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/UbuntuMembers personally I
think the most interesting discovery was the distribution of times from
creating a launchpad profile (to file your first bug perhaps) to
becoming an Ubuntu member reveals that the most typical duration is 450
days plus or minus 50.

So the membership process, it starts with filling out a wiki page about
yourself at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/YourName . This is not a comfortable
thing to do. I started mine quite a while ago and kept adding to it when
I did something interesting - this was probably a good idea.

Anything you do can go on your wiki page, the approval board will look
for stuff they want to see and ignore stuff they are not interested in -
more on that later.

I made no effort to do proper wiki markup on it, it was just a list of
stuff. I had no testimonials section, because I felt an empty
testimonials section would look a bit sad, this was an error - if you
have no section then there is nowhere for someone to add a testimonial.
Laura Czajkowski helped me sort this out at the last minute, which leads
me on to:

Get someone to help you well in advance. Ask them if they think your
wiki page is ready. Get them to help find you testimonials (it is way
easier to ask on behalf of someone else than directly)

When your wiki page is looking reasonably full of stuff you can add your
name to the regional board agenda, but when you add your name to the
agenda don't be first in the list, let a few other people go before you.
The approval meeting goes in the order the names are added.

It is not a job interview! There is no job at stake, no money at stake,
nothing of significant value in the list of member entitlements. You are
probably not going to go through it for the incentive of receiving an
IRC cloak. You are not doing it for the published benefits but because
you are a part of the community and the procedure of the community is
that we recognise those who contribute in this way.

It is not a job interview! They are not interested in your background,
technical or otherwise. You are not being interviewed to decide whether
you are *allowed* to join the community, you are being interviewed to
see if you have *already* joined the community. This should affect the
stuff you put on your wiki page and what you say in the interview. If
you help people in IRC channels say so, if you are on various mailing
lists then say so, if you use the forums say so. If you have written
code or done some packaging that is good too, but you may be pushed
towards the MOTU process (MOTU is a nested team in Ubuntu Members)

Rejection is an option, and it isn't final. Rejection doesn't mean go
away, you are full of fail it means contribute a bit more stuff,
document it better, get some more testimonials and come back in a month
or two it is an easy option for the board to choose, they are not
missing out on the opportunity to accept you, just delaying it a bit.

Attend a few approval board sessions on IRC before you put yourself
forward - like I didn't. Figure out who on the board is the most harshly
critical, figure out what responses they like and don't like.

Make sure you have supporters in the IRC meeting who will speak up on
your behalf and 

[ubuntu-uk] Fwd: [LUG] OT: #!/bin/santash

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Beard
Hi folks,

This was posted on the Devon  Cornwall LUG and made me chuckle, I 
thought some of you folks might like it too...

|better !pout !cry
better watchout
lpr why
santa_claus  north_pole town

cat /etc/passwd  list
ncheck list
ncheck list
cat list | grep naughty coal
cat list | grep nice gift
santa_claus  north_pole town

who | grep sleeping
who | grep awake
who | egrep 'bad|good'

for goodness_sake; do
   be_good;
done|



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Fwd: [LUG] OT: #!/bin/santash

2009-12-08 Thread Steve
On Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:21:04 -, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:

 Hi folks,

 This was posted on the Devon  Cornwall LUG and made me chuckle, I
 thought some of you folks might like it too...

 |better !pout !cry
 better watchout
 lpr why
 santa_claus  north_pole town

 cat /etc/passwd  list
 ncheck list
 ncheck list
 cat list | grep naughty coal
 cat list | grep nice gift
 santa_claus  north_pole town

 who | grep sleeping
 who | grep awake
 who | egrep 'bad|good'

 for goodness_sake; do
be_good;
 done|




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] TV connected to ubuntu pc via ethernet

2009-12-08 Thread javadayaz
you know specs wise this doesnt look like it will be able to play HDits
a atom processor after all...!!!

Or am i wrong?

2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com

 Sorry to stick my oar in without an introduction, by the way. Hello!

 I've used one of these http://www.ebuyer.com/product/167153 with the
 latest beta of XBMC live, plugged into a Samsung LCD with HDMI. It's
 fantastic, and thanks to the Nvidia ION GPU is more than capable of playing
 back 1080p HD stuff.

 It's also near silent as well, which for me is necessary for a PC in the
 lounge.

 Joseph

 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:17 PM, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote:

 looking at various peoples opinion on dlna it appears to be in its infancy
 as there seems to be a lot of problems.

 Maybe the easiest solution is the best. Put a pc in the living room and
 connect to the tv

 2009/12/8 Joseph Hughes josephhug...@gmail.com

  If you're into films, you should actually look for a TV with 24p
 mode. Most modern LCDs will do this, but check first. Almost all films are
 shot at 24fps, and this mode provides a more authentic way of watching
 films.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 When the TV uses internal trickery display a film with a 100/200mhz mode,
 in my opinion it looses the feeling of film and looks more like something
 made for TV.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p

 Joseph


 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:57 AM, James Milligan li...@lake54.comwrote:

 On 08/12/2009 11:53, javadayaz wrote:
  Im a film person so will probably need more than 100mhz.
 
  2009/12/8 James Milligan li...@lake54.com mailto:li...@lake54.com
 
  On 08/12/2009 11:45, javadayaz wrote:
   Is 100mhz on a tv a good number for watching movies?
  
   2009/12/8 Philip Stubbs phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  mailto:phi...@stuphi.co.uk
  
   2009/12/8 Alan Pope a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com
  mailto:a...@popey.com mailto:a...@popey.com:
2009/12/8 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com
  mailto:javada...@gmail.com
   mailto:javada...@gmail.com mailto:javada...@gmail.com:
I know i have asked this question before so forgive me for
   asking again...
What is the situation with tv's that are able to connect to
   pc's via
ethernet?
   
Which exact make and model of TV can do this?
  
  
 
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
  
 http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/tv-audio-video/television/led-tv/UE40B8000XWXXC/index.idx?pagetype=prd_detailtab=specfullspec=F
 
  
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  100Hz isn't that good if you ask me. If you watch movies such as
 Die
  Hard, The Terminator, and all the other fast action movies, then
  perhaps
  it's a good investment, but otherwise if it's just last night's
 Corrie
  you're watching, you won't notice the difference.
 
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 http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-led-lcd-televisions/784689-100-hz-worth.html

 You can't get more than 100 really at the moment, and even now it isn't
 the norm, so as they say in the thread I've linked to, it's up to you
 whether you pay that little bit extra to go for a few more 'frames per
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Ubuntu Studio daily CD health check

2009-12-08 Thread Colin Watson
This is a daily health check report on the Ubuntu Studio CD images.
If you have any questions, contact Colin Watson cjwat...@ubuntu.com.

ubuntustudio/daily: Uninstallable packages:

ubuntustudio-meta 0.64 produces uninstallable binaries:
  * ubuntustudio-font-meta (amd64 i386)
  * ubuntustudio-graphics (amd64 i386)

wacom-tools 1:0.8.4.1-0ubuntu4 produces uninstallable binaries:
  * xserver-xorg-input-wacom (amd64 i386)

xorg 1:7.5~3ubuntu1 produces uninstallable binaries:
  * xserver-xorg-input-all (amd64)

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Dec13 Developer Meeting Reminder

2009-12-08 Thread Eric Hedekar
This is just a friendly reminder that the monthly (non-mandatory) Ubuntu
Studio Developer meeting is five days away.  It will be held at 19:00 UTC on
Sunday Dec 13th in #ubuntu-meeting on irc.freenode.net and will follow the
agenda at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/2009Dec13

For those not already planning to attend, you may want to sit in and listen,
or check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/ for minutes and
plans for the next (and previous) meetings.

Anyone with any interest in helping the development of Ubuntu Studio is
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Meetings/
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Re: Solang or Shotwell vs. F-Spot for Lucid

2009-12-08 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le lundi 07 décembre 2009 à 21:24 -0500, Danny Piccirillo a écrit :
 Before too much effort is invested into making F-Spot good enough to
 meet all of the needs outlined at the UDS Default App Selection
 session, i thought i should bring up Solang and Shotwell to see if it
 might be worth including instead of F-Spot in Lucid, or if it's too
 late, in Lucid +1. 

Hi,

Thank you for raising the topic. What effort are you speaking about
exactly there though? The only change we needed was the edit options to
be available in view mode basically and upstream already fixed that one.

 GTumb has been discussed, but it doesn't seem to deliver the goods.

Why not? Somebody pointed recently a post about gthumb, the code has
been refactored recently apparently and the new version looks quite good

  Solang is new, yet it's developed quickly and is showing a lot of
 promise. Shotwell might also be a contender worth discussing, but i am
 unfamiliar with it. Hopefully someone else has some insights as to how
 Shotwell compares to Solang and F-Spot. 

We have something not perfect right now but working ok for common use,
it seems risky to want to change to some new codebase in a lts cycle
especially when we don't know how reliable upstream is and when those
softwares have not been exposed to real user testing and feedback yet.

   * A major issue with F-Spot that Solang doesn't have is that you
 have to move images to import them into the library. 

Do you? The import dialog has a checkbox about copy that you can uncheck

   * F-Spot is much more resource intensive than Solang

Do you have numbers on that?

 Solang, Shotwell, and F-Spot are all fine image managers/organizers,
 but the current plan is to work on F-Spot to get it to meet the
 following needs: 
   * Quickly viewing images by folder [currently handled by EOG]
   * Solang and F-Spot both have view-modes but still
 require importing the image. Shotwell might not. 

No, the f-spot --view mode doesn't require to import anything...

   * Editing images without importing (Shotwell does this)
   * Rotating [currently handled by EOG]
   * Red-eye removal [currently handled by GIMP]
   * Cropping [currently handled by GIMP]

those are done by f-spot as well

 Although the interface has been cleaned up, it just feels heavy. 

The comment there is about the user interface or the opening speed,
reactivity to actions, ...?

 It's worth reconsidering how much work should be put in to F-Spot when
 other projects seem to be progressing faster. If this much work is
 going to be invested as it is, we should consider whether it might be
 better to focus on Solang instead. Shotwell might already meet many of
 these needs, and need significantly less work. 

We don't put too many efforts in f-spot, the work is done mostly by
upstream and the packaging is done mostly by Debian, we just try to
issues reported on launchpad and work with upstream on the ones we
consider worth trying to fix for the next version.

Where did you get that the other projects are moving faster too? They
might have extra work to put to catch up with what f-spot does now. The
timeline view is rather nice to use and f-spot has quite some other
options. 

Did anybody looked at how those other software handle exporting to
flick, picasa or other web services?

 Please look into both Solang and Shotwell and post your thoughts. 
 Thanks! 

I will let other people comment on those, but changing a known codebase
for new project in a lts cycle doesn't seem a good move from there



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Re: Solang or Shotwell vs. F-Spot for Lucid

2009-12-08 Thread Wouter Stomp
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 Did anybody looked at how those other software handle exporting to
 flick, picasa or other web services?


For Shotwell uploading to Flickr and Facebook is planned for 0.4 which
is to be released in December. Picasa is planned for a later version.
Btw. an important feature missing from all available programs is
uploading to online print services.

A list of all planned features is here: http://trac.yorba.org/report/16

An (incomplete) comparison of photo managers is on their wiki:
http://trac.yorba.org/wiki/ShotwellFeatureComparison

Solang also has exporting to webservices on the todo list, but they
also have more extensive plans: acting as a front-end to them, as a
photo manager for both your photos on the desktop and in the cloud.

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Call for Lucid testing: GTK enhancements

2009-12-08 Thread Ken VanDine
Hello Desktoppers!

The Ayatana team has been working on some GTK enhancements for Lucid.
Adding support for Client Side window decorations and enabling RGBA
color maps by default.  We have uploaded a patched version of gtk which
adds these features to the ~ubuntu-desktop team PPA (along with a needed
fix for nautilus to go along with it).  

The new decorations feature requires explicit support from a theme
before it becomes active (it defaults to being disabled). However, RGBA
support is enabled by default and there is a chance for some fallout
from this being added.

Please help test before this gets uploaded to Lucid, there is currently
one known issue.  Redraw problems, most noticeably in nautilus.  In a
nautilus browse window, scrolling will leave some artifacts briefly.
This behavior has also been seen in gnome-terminal, xchat-gnome, and
evolution.  

You can find the packages in the ~ubuntu-desktop team PPA 
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa

To add the PPA and upgrade:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-desktop/ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade

This upgrade will include libgtk2.0-0 and some other gtk packages as
well as nautilus from this PPA.  Please look for regressions in current
applications and report by commenting on
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/491521

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Desktop Team 20091208 meeting minutes

2009-12-08 Thread Rick Spencer
Here are the minutes from the desktop team meeting. You can also find
them, the activity reports, and the irc log here:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2009-12-08

= Meeting Minutes =
== Present ==
=== Main Meeting ===
 * Rick Spencer (rickspencer3) - chair
 * Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje)
 * Chris Cheney (ccheney)
 * Jonathan Riddell (Riddell)
 * Ken VanDine (kenvandine)
 * Martin Pitt (pitti)
 * Sebastien Bacher (seb128)
 * Till Kamppeter (tkamppeter)  
 * Alexander Sack (asac)  

=== Eastern Edition ===
 * Robert Ancell (robert_ancell)

== Apologies ==
 * Alberto Milone (tseliot) - National holiday
 * Bryce Harrington (bryce) - Holiday
 * Luke Yelavich (TheMuso) - Moving House

== Agenda ==
 * Outstanding actions from last meeting
 * Partner Update
 * Kubuntu Update
 * Release Bugs/Release Status
 * Lucid blueprints
 * 2010 Events
 * UNE
 * Review activity reports
 * Any other business

== Outstanding actions from last meeting ==
 * ACTION: rickspencer3 to track down robert's scanning tool
  * RESULT: It's in his PPA:
https://launchpad.net/~robert-ancell/+archive/simple-scan
 * ACTION: seb128 to add initial work items to UNE session blueprint
  * RESULT: didrocks beat him to it:
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-unr-session
 * ACTION: robert_ancell to do seed changes for new games
  * DONE (by pitti, needs core-dev)
 * ACTION: rickspencer3 to confirm robert_ancell commitment to GDM/GDM
Greeter refactor
  * RESULT: Based on current OEM commitment, documenting the current API
is in scope for A2, rest of the work may be done post A2
 * ACTION: kenvandine to investigate improving startup time of Messaging
Menu and related tasks
  * RESULT: tedg added profiling code, next update of libindicate should
bring some speedup
 * ACTION: ricspencer3 to set up call with pitti, bryce, and tselliot to
get tselliot on board
  * RESULT: tseliot set up a weekly meeting with rickspencer3, we used
the first one to confer with pitti
 * ACTION: all to try robert_ancell's new scanning tool
  * RESULT: ArneGoetje tried, does not talk with his scanner (xsane
works); will contact Robert

== Actions from this meeting ==
 * ArneGoetje to talk to Robert about scanner failure in simple-scan
 * Everyone to add their conference interests to list below
 * Martin to followup on UbuntuSpec:desktop-lucid-une-applications
drafting
 * Martin to followup on UbuntuSpec:desktop-lucid-desktop-cloud drafting

== Partner Update ==
 * DX [[DesktopExperienceTeam/LucidWeeklyReleases|Weekly releases]] to
start again this Thursday
 * Decorations and RGBA code was released into a PPA along with a call
for testing, results tracked here:
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+2.0/+bug/491521

== Kubuntu Update ==
 * 4.4 Beta is mostly in lucid
 * Colin Watson fixed Qt
 * Remaining kdelibs problems are now fixed
 * In a few hours: ready for alpha-1

== Release Status ==
{{http://piware.de/workitems/desktop/lucid-alpha2/burndown.png}}

No alpha-1 release blockers right now.

== Lucid blueprints ==

Most are drafted/approved now. Oustanding are 

 * UbuntuSpec:desktop-lucid-une-applications : Was not discussed at UDS,
needs followup
 * UbuntuSpec:desktop-lucid-desktop-cloud: No drafter, needs followup

== 2010 Events ==
We need to create a list of the events in which the Ubuntu Platform team
will be participating in 2010. Please indicate which ones you want to
attend in 2010, and add any events which are missing.

 * Camp KDE
 * linux.conf.au
  * robert-ancell
 * FOSDEM
 * Black Hat
 * Scale
 * Pycon
 * Cloud computing
 * CELF (USA)
 * CELF Europe
 * Linux Collaboration Summit
  * pitti (?)
 * Java One
 * Usenix 09
 * LinuxTag
 * Akademy - JonathanRiddell
 * Guadec
 * Ottawa Linux Symposium
 * Debcamp
 * Debconf
 * OSCON
 * USENIX Security
 * Atlanta Linux Fest
 * LDAP
 * LinuxCon
 * LinuxPlumbers
  * pitti (?)
 * X Developers
 * Maemo Summit
 * OOoCon

== UNE ==
 * Desktop team to deliver UNE going forward
 * didrocks will be the maintainer
 * Until didrocks starts, only goal is for SteveK to do UNR - UNE
rename
 * mini-sprint in January to get first desktop owned UNE image built

== Other Business ==

== Activity reports ==

=== Arne Goetje (ArneGoetje) ===

=== Chris Cheney (ccheney) ===
 * Sick Friday (Dec 4)
 * Worked on list of xulrunner for firefox conversion
 * Working on getting OOo 3.1.1 available for Hardy users
 * OOo bug triage

=== Jonathan Riddell (Riddell) ===

done:
 * Holiday all last week
 * Security updates for kdelibs, kdebase
 * Review status of KDE 4.4 beta packaging and uploaded
 * e-mail catchup

todo:
 * Get KDE 4.4 beta finished
 * Alpha 1

=== Ken VanDine (kenvandine) ===
 * Updated empathy to 2.29.3  
   * ported the libindicator patch
   * patched to always take focus when raised
   * patched to append notifications
 * Ported indicator-session from libempathy to telepathy-glib
 * added gtk-doc support to indicator-application (not quite complete)
 * worked on pulling f-spot 

Re: Distro?

2009-12-08 Thread David Fawcett
I believe it's short for 'distribution'. When people are talking about their
distro (or creating a new distro) they are talking about their version of
Linux (or creating a new version of Linux).

There are many variants of Linux all aimed at a different target audience
with different needs.

For example: Ubuntu is aimed a new users and is designed to be as simple to
use as we can make it. Open Solaris (also free) is aimed at businesses and
includes a lot of built in networking functions (ZFS for example) that could
be very useful for businesses.

Windows has Windows XP Home, XP Pro, Vista Basic, Vista Home Premium, Vista
Business etc.

In my opinion Microsoft distros are less about ensuring that their customers
have the right product for them and instead charging a premium for tools and
services that an OS really should provide for free.

On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Geoffrey gcomb...@bigpond.com wrote:

 The oft-seen, in this context, word 'distro' is not in my lexicon nor in
 my Australian Oxford. What does it mean?
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FW: Distro?

2009-12-08 Thread Michael Ritter

Try

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distro


Mike Ritter






 Subject: Distro?
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 To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com
 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 08:18:19 +1000
 
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Re: Distro?

2009-12-08 Thread Dave Hall
Hi Geoffrey,

It is a shortened version of distribution.  As Linux is just a kernel, a
distro is when someone assembles the kernel with a collection of
applications and tools, such a the GNU utilities which are commonly used
by all distros, X for the GUI, GNOME for a desktop environment, firefox
for a web browser, OpenOffice.org for word processing, presentations etc
and so on.

There is loads more info on wikipedia too -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_distribution

Cheers

Dave

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Re: Distro?

2009-12-08 Thread Joel W Shea
2009/12/9 David Fawcett omniw...@gmail.com:
...
 For example: Ubuntu is aimed a new users and is designed to be as simple to
 use as we can make it. Open Solaris (also free) is aimed at businesses and
 includes a lot of built in networking functions (ZFS for example) that could
 be very useful for businesses.
...

ZFS is a combined filesystem and logical volume manager. [0]

[0] - http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/zfs.jsp

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Re: Distro?

2009-12-08 Thread David Fawcett
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Joel W Shea jws...@gmail.com wrote:


 ZFS is a combined filesystem and logical volume manager. [0]

 [0] - http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/zfs.jsp


Thanks for that Joel.

I may have been unclear but I was actually referring to how ZFS works over
networks.

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Re: Ubuntu Translation bug handling process

2009-12-08 Thread Sense Hofstede
2009/12/7 David Planella david.plane...@ubuntu.com:
 Hi Sense,

 First of all, thanks a lot for the feedback. We really appreciate this,
 since bug handling is a new process for the translations team and any
 comments, especially from experienced bug squad members, are really
 useful to us.

 Let me give some background on the purpose of the ubuntu-translations
 project for translations bug reporting. As you probably know, unlike
 other teams (e.g. kernel), translations cannot be reported against a
 single package (not even language packs (*)). This, and the facts that
 a) knowledge on how to handle or fix translations is currently scarce
 and b) translations has been an aspect traditionally not too well looked
 after, lead to the situation that many translations bugs were simply
 forgotten in the past, although many members of the translations
 community would have been willing to actively triage them and in some
 cases also fix them.

 In the past, the i18n or l10n tags had been used on an occasional basis,
 but as in Launchpad you cannot subscribe to a tag, it was not possible
 for those interested in monitoring and acting upon translations bugs to
 have an overview of the whole picture.

 With the ubuntu-translations project we've now got a hub for
 translations bugs: this allows those interested in them to get an
 overview of currently open bugs, having a team (the Ubuntu Translations
 Coordinators) behind it -both actively triaging and fixing them and
 acting as a point of contact- and permitting further community
 participation subscribing to bug mail. Another compelling reason for
 using it was to decouple bugs related to Ubuntu translations from bugs
 in the Launchpad Translations component. Very often bugs in the distro
 were reported against Rosetta, and there was not a clear path for the
 Rosetta developers to bring them back to the distro. Now they only have
 to move them to ubuntu-translations, and if necessary we open tasks for
 the appropriate packages.

 We are still learning about the bug triaging process for translations,
 and in that respect we've been documenting it and asking for feedback
 from the bugs team:

 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing%20translation%
 20bugs
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/ReportingBugs
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/KnowledgeBase/HandlingBugs

 Note that this is still work in progress, e.g. the last two documents
 should probably be merged into HandlingBugs, which is currently a
 brainstorm page for defining the process.

 That's one of the reasons (not having a defined process) we hadn't
 widely announced the project yet, but after the experience from the last
 cycle and your original suggestion on a Hug Day on language packs, I
 thought it might be time to move this forward, give it a road test
 during the Hug Day and get some more feedback.

 Needless to say, we are open to suggestions and willing to follow the
 standard practices of the bug squad.

 I feel that this has worked extremely well for the Karmic cycle. I do
 not have statistics at hand other than [1], but judging by the number of
 bugs we've processed and the status of the release (also comparing it to
 previous ones), I think this has been one of the main achievements of
 last cycle in terms of better translations QA.

 El dj 03 de 12 de 2009 a les 20:27 +0100, en/na Sense Hofstede va
 escriure:
 Hello,

 Browsing the BugDay of this day[1] I can't help but feel that a lot of
 these bugs have appeared on the list because the ubuntu-translators
 project doesn't want to use or cannot set importance and the Triaged
 status. I suspect the latest.

 Neither of those, it's because we (well, at least me) didn't quite know
 the difference between Confirmed and Triaged. I'd be more than happy to
 use the same convention from

 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status

 for the ubuntu-translations project, and start marking the current
 Confirmed bugs to Triaged as appropriate.

 This means that the status of the bug reports that are mainly handled
 by Ubuntu Translators will continue to pop up on search results like
 the one used for the lists of this BugDay.


 Another thing I noticed in the Hug Day is that only members of the
 ubuntu-translations-coordinators team can change the status to triaged -
 is there a way we could give this ability to the bugsquad team as well?
 Would that be desirable?

 The triaging process for translation bugs is further complicated by
 the requirement to report it both against the source package of the
 affected application and the ubuntu-translations project. This forces
 us to maintain two sets of statuses, each subject to the rule of a
 different team. This causes confusion.


 Although we do not make it a requirement, it is true that in most of the
 cases there is a separate task for the package. While I see some of the
 disadvantages in that, I cannot think of any other way of keeping track
 of translation bugs as a whole 

Re: disabling pulse audio in 9.10?

2009-12-08 Thread sandie
Iain Duncan wrote:
 Hey folks, wondering if anyone knows what would be different for 
 disabling pulseaudio for 9.10. I've managed to get it so it doesn't 
 restart, following these:

 http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-beast-pulseaudio-at-bay/
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1348604

 But it's still running on startup even though I removed all the 
 runlevels using sysv-rc-conf

 Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or the above are just out of 
 date, any help appreciated. I'd like it be a strictly jack on alsa setup.

 Thanks!
 Iain
I use this : http://www.sandgreen.dk/index.php?side=python_uat to remove 
Pulse completely. It's a work in progress but it works for me (YMMV).

If you have any problems, please let me know so I can improve it.

Sandie

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Dssi-Vst and Ubuntu Studio

2009-12-08 Thread teza
Hi all, I was wondering about the fact that we can find somme free vst
plugins on the web, why the UbuntuStudio tean does not include dssi-vst
package in the Os as a standard.
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Re: Dssi-Vst and Ubuntu Studio

2009-12-08 Thread Brian David
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:30 AM, teza tsalio...@orange.fr wrote:

 Hi all, I was wondering about the fact that we can find somme free vst
 plugins on the web, why the UbuntuStudio tean does not include dssi-vst
 package in the Os as a standard.
 Regards
 Teza


I don't have an answer for your specific question, Teza, but I am wondering:
 are there actually a lot of people on this list using VSTs with Linux?
 Because I was under the impression that this was very hard to do, and did
not work well even in the best of cases.
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Re: Dssi-Vst and Ubuntu Studio

2009-12-08 Thread sandie
teza wrote:
 Hi all, I was wondering about the fact that we can find somme free vst
 plugins on the web, why the UbuntuStudio tean does not include dssi-vst
 package in the Os as a standard.
 Regards
 Teza


   
I found a .deb version somewhere on the web (sorry, but I don't remember 
where), I placed it on my server if you are interested :
http://sandgreen.dk/stuff/dssi-vst.deb.tar.bz2

But yes... it would be cool to have default in UbuStu :-)


Brian David wrote:



 I don't have an answer for your specific question, Teza, but I am 
 wondering:  are there actually a lot of people on this list using VSTs 
 with Linux?  Because I was under the impression that this was very 
 hard to do, and did not work well even in the best of cases.
 -- 
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I use them a lot.
ZynAddSubFx and Bristol are both on my favorite list of 
synths/v-inst/fx, but unfortunaly the list is kind'a small if you 
exclude Win-VST.

I havent had any serious problems using them with dssi-vst, but I havent 
tested extensively and only one at a time, like XLN addictive drums 
for when I practice my e-drums or VoxengoBoogex for guitar.
I have removed Pulse, but other than that, I just run them with vsthost 
/_path_to_/vsti.dll and most of them work, If I'm composing/editing I 
just load them in my host (XT2) but I like the idea of just clicking on 
the drums icon on my desktop and play without having to start my host 
and load/setup the instrument first.

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Re: disabling pulse audio in 9.10?

2009-12-08 Thread Oleg Ivanenko
Hi, Iain!

My setup

1. Switch off /apps/gnome_settings_daemon/plugins/sound/active in gconf-editor

2. Switch off Gnome sounding at all in gnome-volume-control(I believe so)

3. Create file ~/.pulse/client.conf consists of
autospawn=no

4. killall -KILL pulseaudio

5. start jackd with qjackctl

Alternative way: install xubuntu over ubuntustudio and use xfce
instead Gnome :)))


2009/12/8 Iain Duncan iainduncanli...@gmail.com:
 Hey folks, wondering if anyone knows what would be different for disabling
 pulseaudio for 9.10. I've managed to get it so it doesn't restart, following
 these:

 http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-beast-pulseaudio-at-bay/
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1348604

 But it's still running on startup even though I removed all the runlevels
 using sysv-rc-conf

 Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or the above are just out of date, any
 help appreciated. I'd like it be a strictly jack on alsa setup.

 Thanks!
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Re: Dssi-Vst and Ubuntu Studio

2009-12-08 Thread Q
Brian David wrote:
 I don't have an answer for your specific question, Teza, but I am 
 wondering:  are there actually a lot of people on this list using VSTs 
 with Linux?  Because I was under the impression that this was very hard 
 to do, and did not work well even in the best of cases.
 -- 
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I'm only one person, but I use a few VSTs a lot, all commercial -- I 
couldn't easily have the proggy fun I want without them: M-Tron Pro, 
Virtual String Machine, Oddity, B4II, Elektrik Piano, things like that.

Where possible I run them in standalone mode under Wine, where not 
(Oddity, I've never got the hang of the preset system so use VST host 
banks and patches) I run them in the cost-free Cantabile Lite VST host 
run using Wine. Naturally, I'm using Wine-asio for both scenarios.

I've never had any problems running these plugins; obviously they crash 
on rare occasions, or get booted off Jack every now and again, but all 
the functionality er, functions.

Since Wine-asio came along, I stopped bothering with DSSI-VST or FST.

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presonus firepod problems

2009-12-08 Thread Iain Duncan
Hi folks, apologies for cross post, not sure where is best bet. I have a
Presonus Firepod, and have just setup Ubuntu studio 9.10 on a gigabyte p55
mobo. I have had no luck getting my firepod working yet and am starting to
wonder if it's the firepod itself. Can anyone tell me what exactly is
supposed to happen with one when you plug it in and turn it on? On my mac,
the light would turn blue. When I turn it on now, the light turns blue
during power up, then goes back to red, with a brief blue blink. I don't see
any entry in /dev for  /dev/raw1394.

Any tips on diagnosing this much appreciated!

thanks
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Re: disabling pulse audio in 9.10?

2009-12-08 Thread Iain Duncan
Thanks, I was going to switch to xfce actually, thought I'll keep gnome on
there too for ohter purposes. Does the pulse daemon just plain not get used
by xfce?

thanks
Iain

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Ivanenko oivane...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, Iain!

 My setup

 1. Switch off /apps/gnome_settings_daemon/plugins/sound/active in
 gconf-editor

 2. Switch off Gnome sounding at all in gnome-volume-control(I believe so)

 3. Create file ~/.pulse/client.conf consists of
 autospawn=no

 4. killall -KILL pulseaudio

 5. start jackd with qjackctl

 Alternative way: install xubuntu over ubuntustudio and use xfce
 instead Gnome :)))


 2009/12/8 Iain Duncan iainduncanli...@gmail.com:
  Hey folks, wondering if anyone knows what would be different for
 disabling
  pulseaudio for 9.10. I've managed to get it so it doesn't restart,
 following
  these:
 
 
 http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-beast-pulseaudio-at-bay/
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1348604
 
  But it's still running on startup even though I removed all the runlevels
  using sysv-rc-conf
 
  Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or the above are just out of date,
 any
  help appreciated. I'd like it be a strictly jack on alsa setup.
 
  Thanks!
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Re: Plugin GUI's and Ubu love

2009-12-08 Thread Hartmut Noack
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Ricardo Lameiro schrieb:
 Speaking of Windows programs, there's a feature I use in WaveLab that I
 haven't been able to find in any FOSS software. That program has something
 called a master section, which is basically just a bunch of slots for
 plugins. They all effect the sound in real-time, and when you've tweaked
 them to your liking, you hit a button called Render and it processes the
 active wave files in non-real-time.

Aww Yeah?! ;-)
And can it render a 60-track-mix with individual plugins and all
Parameters in the plugins and in the mixer automized to have that wired
flanger on the voice on two words only and with a sweep thru the
delay-parameter at 2:32 and let the bass-drum become louder at the end
of the song and the guitar-solo wildly moving in the panorama and all
this rendered offline with dithering and exactly to the file-format you
need for a CD and then with the same mix another file for a
movie-soundtrack?

You really should check-out Ardour. It can do all this and more and
despite the myths that are stalking the net it offers a friendly,
intuitive GUI to do all this as easy as possible for such a complicated
task.

:-)
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Re: [LAU] presonus firepod problems

2009-12-08 Thread Hartmut Noack
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Iain Duncan schrieb:
 Hi folks, apologies for cross post, not sure where is best bet. I have a
 Presonus Firepod, and have just setup Ubuntu studio 9.10 on a gigabyte p55
 mobo. I have had no luck getting my firepod working yet and am starting to
 wonder if it's the firepod itself. Can anyone tell me what exactly is
 supposed to happen with one when you plug it in and turn it on? On my mac,
 the light would turn blue. When I turn it on now, the light turns blue
 during power up, then goes back to red, with a brief blue blink. I don't see
 any entry in /dev for  /dev/raw1394.
 
 Any tips on diagnosing this much appreciated!

You need to start jackd with the firewire-driver it is easy with qjackctl.
Check with UbuntuStudiocontrol that you have firewire (IEEE1394)
accessable for group audio.
The firepod is well supported, once jackd is running, you`ll see the
blue light again ;-)

 
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Re: [LAU] presonus firepod problems

2009-12-08 Thread Iain Duncan
Thanks Harmut! A few questions:

- so the blue light will not turn blue again until jack is running with
freebob?
- should /dev/raw1394 appear as soon as I turn it on/plug it in? ( It's not
doing that, though it appears if I modprobe raw1394 )
- is the firewire driver freebob or FFADO?
- where is this ub

On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Hartmut Noack zettber...@linuxuse.dewrote:

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 Iain Duncan schrieb:
  Hi folks, apologies for cross post, not sure where is best bet. I have a
  Presonus Firepod, and have just setup Ubuntu studio 9.10 on a gigabyte
 p55
  mobo. I have had no luck getting my firepod working yet and am starting
 to
  wonder if it's the firepod itself. Can anyone tell me what exactly is
  supposed to happen with one when you plug it in and turn it on? On my
 mac,
  the light would turn blue. When I turn it on now, the light turns blue
  during power up, then goes back to red, with a brief blue blink. I don't
 see
  any entry in /dev for  /dev/raw1394.
 
  Any tips on diagnosing this much appreciated!

 You need to start jackd with the firewire-driver it is easy with qjackctl.
 Check with UbuntuStudiocontrol that you have firewire (IEEE1394)
 accessable for group audio.
 The firepod is well supported, once jackd is running, you`ll see the
 blue light again ;-)

 
  thanks
  iain
 
 
 
  
 
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Re: Dssi-Vst and Ubuntu Studio

2009-12-08 Thread teza
Hi brian it is not hard to use vst, even live I've done it during the
Ubuntu Party in Paris last week. When you have compil ddsi-vst,run jack,
open a terminal, vsthost and your vst, that will connect straight away
in jack.
Regards
Teza

:
;Le mardi 08 décembre 2009 à 09:50 -0600, Brian David a écrit :
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 6:30 AM, teza tsalio...@orange.fr wrote:
 Hi all, I was wondering about the fact that we can find somme
 free vst
 plugins on the web, why the UbuntuStudio tean does not include
 dssi-vst
 package in the Os as a standard.
 Regards
 Teza
 
 
 I don't have an answer for your specific question, Teza, but I am
 wondering:  are there actually a lot of people on this list using VSTs
 with Linux?  Because I was under the impression that this was very
 hard to do, and did not work well even in the best of cases.
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Re: disabling pulse audio in 9.10?

2009-12-08 Thread Oleg Ivanenko
Hi, Iain!

I tried both way simultaneously, so can't affirm for certain, but,
yes, I believe that xfce is not using pulseadio. May be somebody
correct me.


2009/12/8 Iain Duncan iainduncanli...@gmail.com:
 Thanks, I was going to switch to xfce actually, thought I'll keep gnome on
 there too for ohter purposes. Does the pulse daemon just plain not get used
 by xfce?
 thanks
 Iain

 On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Oleg Ivanenko oivane...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi, Iain!

 My setup

 1. Switch off /apps/gnome_settings_daemon/plugins/sound/active in
 gconf-editor

 2. Switch off Gnome sounding at all in gnome-volume-control(I believe so)

 3. Create file ~/.pulse/client.conf consists of
 autospawn=no

 4. killall -KILL pulseaudio

 5. start jackd with qjackctl

 Alternative way: install xubuntu over ubuntustudio and use xfce
 instead Gnome :)))


 2009/12/8 Iain Duncan iainduncanli...@gmail.com:
  Hey folks, wondering if anyone knows what would be different for
  disabling
  pulseaudio for 9.10. I've managed to get it so it doesn't restart,
  following
  these:
 
 
  http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/ubuntu-904-jaunty-keeping-the-beast-pulseaudio-at-bay/
  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1348604
 
  But it's still running on startup even though I removed all the
  runlevels
  using sysv-rc-conf
 
  Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or the above are just out of date,
  any
  help appreciated. I'd like it be a strictly jack on alsa setup.
 
  Thanks!
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Re: Dssi-Vst and Ubuntu Studio

2009-12-08 Thread Gerhard Lang

teza schrieb:
 Hi all, I was wondering about the fact that we can find somme free vst
 plugins on the web, why the UbuntuStudio tean does not include dssi-vst
 package in the Os as a standard.
 Regards
 Teza
   
My first attempts compiling dssi-vsti had not been really successful. 
The vst integration into lmms had only very basal functions and no 
working user interfaces. So I gave up and up to now I run the vst-hosts 
as well as my commercial korg and a lot of free plugins in wine. I 
connect and combine them over wineasio in jack with genuine linux 
applications i.e. ardour, hydrogen, linuxsampler, rackarrack, zynadd 
My favorite vsti-hosts are reaper - I abuse it just for this - and a 
windows freeware named vsthost by herman seib 
http://www.hermannseib.com/vsthost.htm Those settings run tolerably even 
for live performance, but maybe I should give dssi-vst a try again. Does 
dssi-vst give you full access to vsti's midi controls, menues, presets 
and guis? Is dssi-vst ready for this? Has Steinberg made it's Asio stuff 
opensource? Or is there a way to run these dlls without using 
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Re: [LAU] presonus firepod problems

2009-12-08 Thread Brian David
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Iain Duncan iainduncanli...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks Harmut! A few questions:

 - so the blue light will not turn blue again until jack is running with
 freebob?
 - should /dev/raw1394 appear as soon as I turn it on/plug it in? ( It's not
 doing that, though it appears if I modprobe raw1394 )
 - is the firewire driver freebob or FFADO?
 - where is this ub


-Yes, the light will not turn blue until the Firepod is connected to JACK.
-/dev/raw1394 SHOULD appear as soon as you turn the Firepod on.  If it does
not, then something has gone awry.
-The 'firewire' drive is FFADO.  Freebob is. . . well, freebob.
-Not sure exactly what your last question is, but if you were going to ask
where Studio Controls is, then it should be under System  Administration.


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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Digest ubuntu-br, volume 57, assunto 28

2009-12-08 Thread Stanley Mulford
 Message: 4
 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 22:33:24 -0200
 From: Stanley Mulford mulford.stan...@gmail.com
 Subject: [Ubuntu-BR] Como verificar se os dois núcleos estão ativos no
Ubuntu 9.10?
 To: Ubuntu Lista ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 Message-ID:
ee2822d40912071633l720cfe86k7393d9d38daa4...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 Olá pessoal da lista!
 Qual o comando que eu uso para saber se os dois núcleos do processador
 Intel
 Core 2 Duo estão funcionando na minha máquina com Ubuntu 9.10?
 Googlei e o resultado não foi satisfatório.
 Agradecendo pela colaboração
 Um abraço a todos
 Prof. Stanley Mulford


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 Message: 5
 Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:38:49 -0200
 From: Ricardo Almeida r.borges.alme...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Como verificar se os dois núcleos estão
ativos no Ubuntu 9.10?
 To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
 Message-ID: 1260232729.4736.0.ca...@ricardo-laptop.teste.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 Olá, já tentou:
 # cat /proc/cpuinfo
 ??
 Em Seg, 2009-12-07 às 22:33 -0200, Stanley Mulford escreveu:
  Olá pessoal da lista!
  Qual o comando que eu uso para saber se os dois núcleos do processador
 Intel
  Core 2 Duo estão funcionando na minha máquina com Ubuntu 9.10?
  Googlei e o resultado não foi satisfatório.
  Agradecendo pela colaboração
  Um abraço a todos
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 Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 22:52:48 -0200
 From: gustavo ggusm...@googlemail.com
 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Como verificar se os dois núcleos estão
ativos no Ubuntu 9.10?
 To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro
ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

 No monitor do sistema (Sistema  Administração  Monitor do Sistema) mostra
 os dois (ou mais) núcleos. Ja tentou?

 abraços,
 Gustavo


 2009/12/7 Ricardo Almeida r.borges.alme...@gmail.com

  Olá, já tentou:
  # cat /proc/cpuinfo
  ??
  Em Seg, 2009-12-07 às 22:33 -0200, Stanley Mulford escreveu:
   Olá pessoal da lista!
   Qual o comando que eu uso para saber se os dois núcleos do processador
  Intel
   Core 2 Duo estão funcionando na minha máquina com Ubuntu 9.10?
   Googlei e o resultado não foi satisfatório.
   Agradecendo pela colaboração
   Um abraço a todos
   Prof. Stanley Mulford
 
 
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 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Como verificar se os dois núcleos estão
ativos no Ubuntu 9.10?
 To: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro
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 Pode-se colocar no Painel do Gnome o Monitor de Graduação de Frequência
 da CPU (botão direito do mouse - Adicionar ao Painel). Coloca 1 para
 cada CPU. O monitor mostra a frequencia de cada núcleo em tempo real,
 podendo-se travar a frequencia.



  Olá pessoal da lista!
  Qual o comando que eu uso para saber se os dois núcleos do processador
  Intel
  Core 2 Duo estão funcionando na minha máquina com Ubuntu 9.10?
  Googlei e o resultado não foi satisfatório.
  Agradecendo pela colaboração
  Um abraço a todos
  Prof. Stanley Mulford
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 Valeu pessoal!

Fiz isto tudo e não tinha certeza de poder ver os dois núcleos funcionando.
Realmente aparecem os 2 núcleos.
Agradecido pela colaboração
Um abraço
Prof. Stanley
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Como verificar se os dois núcleos es tão ativos no Ubuntu 9.10?

2009-12-08 Thread Marcelo Silva
Existe o Monitor do sistema no menu Sistema :)

Ali mostra os dois processadores... agora vale lembrar que  o Linux usará o 
dois se realmente precisar do contrario nao faria sentido.
Entao para testar experimente executar algo pesado... como por exemplo 
renderizar um 3D no Blender, um jogo mais pesado ou outra coisa que exija 
bastante da maquina.

Quanto a velocidade, não espere que seja instantaneo... a maquina sempre 
será mais lenta que nosso cerebro, bem pelo menos eu acho rsrsrs  :)


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Subject: [Ubuntu-BR] Como verificar se os dois núcleos estão ativos no 
Ubuntu 9.10?


Olá pessoal da lista!
Qual o comando que eu uso para saber se os dois núcleos do processador Intel
Core 2 Duo estão funcionando na minha máquina com Ubuntu 9.10?
Googlei e o resultado não foi satisfatório.
Agradecendo pela colaboração
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LTSP (Thin Clients) - No server

2009-12-08 Thread Nilson Chagas
Desculpe me meter na conversa mas...

1) Pode se instalar o ubuntu em thin clients???

2) O que ele usa para se conectar no servidor?? Pq eu uso o RDP e tenho
problemas com letras maiusculas.

3) Qual modelo de thin clients vcs usam??


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 Oi Alex. Uso o ubuntu 9.04 + ltsp numa rede com 15 máquinas thinclient.
 Você
 já executou o clássico:
 # ltsp-update-sshkeys  ltsp-update-kernels  ltsp-update-image
 O dhcp-server ta configurado ok?
 abraços,
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[Ubuntu-BR] livc cd não inicia 9.10

2009-12-08 Thread Hugo Leandro
Olá pessoal, gostaria da ajuda de alguém, pois meu pc toda vez que tento
iniciar o live cd do 9.10 ele chega até uma tela e fica tudo preto, piscando
um pontinho como se fosse um cursor. A minha placa de video´é uma nvidia
7050. O unico jeito que encontrei foi instalando o ubuntu 9.04 e mandando
atualizar, mas após fazer isso deram alguns erros, ou seja, não ficou
perfeito...Tem algum jeito pra instalar pelo live cd? obrigado
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] livc cd não inicia 9.10

2009-12-08 Thread Nilson Chagas
O de praxe, tentou em modo seguro???

2009/12/8 Hugo Leandro leandro.alcap...@gmail.com

 Olá pessoal, gostaria da ajuda de alguém, pois meu pc toda vez que tento
 iniciar o live cd do 9.10 ele chega até uma tela e fica tudo preto,
 piscando
 um pontinho como se fosse um cursor. A minha placa de video´é uma nvidia
 7050. O unico jeito que encontrei foi instalando o ubuntu 9.04 e mandando
 atualizar, mas após fazer isso deram alguns erros, ou seja, não ficou
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[Ubuntu-BR] Terei sido banido?

2009-12-08 Thread João Ghignatti - py3aii

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] livc cd não inicia 9.10

2009-12-08 Thread Hugo Leandro
2009/12/8 Nilson Chagas nilson.chagas.si...@gmail.com

 O de praxe, tentou em modo seguro???

 Não não tentei. O que seria essa opção inicar em modo seguro? Obrigado
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] livc cd não inicia 9.10

2009-12-08 Thread Nilson Chagas
2009/12/8 Hugo Leandro leandro.alcap...@gmail.com

 2009/12/8 Nilson Chagas nilson.chagas.si...@gmail.com

  O de praxe, tentou em modo seguro???
 
  Não não tentei. O que seria essa opção inicar em modo seguro? Obrigado
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Para economizar teclado fui buscar umas das varias respostas que correu na
lista:

*Oi, você já tentou inicializar em modo gráfico seguro (F4)? Ou ainda
tentou
desabilitar acpi e outras opções (F6)?

abraço,
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Terei sido banido?

2009-12-08 Thread Nilson Chagas
Realmente este seu e-mail não chegou.

FELIZ 2010
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[Ubuntu-BR] Avi e srt em dvd

2009-12-08 Thread Marcio Castro
Ola companheiros do grupo, estou a procura de algum software para tranforma
um arquivo avi e de legenda srt em dvd como legenda pra poder roda num dvd
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Avi e srt em dvd

2009-12-08 Thread Maudy Pedrao
Instale o DeVeDe, pela CPU (central de programas ubuntu)

2009/12/8 Marcio Castro spyboo...@gmail.com

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[Ubuntu-BR] Problema com acento no Ubuntu server 9.04

2009-12-08 Thread Flávio Alexandre
Pessoal
Bom dia
Estou enfrentando alguns problemas com acentuação no meu servidor Ubuntu
9.04...
Tenho a seguinte estrutura
Apache - versao 2.2.11
PHP - versão 5.2.6
As palavras que tem acento nao mostram, ficando com caracteres estranhos, ja
fiz os seguintes procedimentos:

No Apache
acresentei a linha

AddCharsetDefault UTF-8
em
/etc/apache2/httpd.conf
fiz também em
/etc/apache2/apache2.conf


AddCharsetDefault ISO-8859-1
em
/etc/apache2/httpd.conf
fiz também em
/etc/apache2/apache2.conf

Após reiniciar o apache nada, sem sucesso.

Fiz umas alterações nos fonte do php
Colocando essa linha no inicio do codigo, mas, sem sucesso também

header('Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8');

Alguem já passou pelo mesmo problema ?

Será que estou fazendo algo de errado ?

Desde já agradeço a todos pela atenção

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Avi e srt em dvd

2009-12-08 Thread Marcio Castro
Pedrao eu tenho esse DeVeDE.
Vc tem algum tutorial que ensine a fazer esse passo

2009/12/8 Maudy Pedrao mped...@gmail.com

 Instale o DeVeDe, pela CPU (central de programas ubuntu)

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Dúvida na Instalação do Ubuntu 9 .10

2009-12-08 Thread Salles
Em Ter, 2009-12-08 às 04:50 -0200, Wagner Candido de Leles escreveu:
 Eu não gostei da versão 9.10, fiz varias instalações mas em nenhuma consegui 
 conectar à internet.
  Após todas as tentativas e seguir várias dicas desisti vou tentar outra 
 instalação com a versão 10.04.

Wagner, 
Desculpe-me a observação mas, para melhor acompanhamento dos posts, não
aproveite tópicos para fazer comentários. Este tópico a bem dizer estava
resolvido quando do download dos pacotes de idioma durante o decurso da
instalação do Stanley.

Crie um novo tópico e descreva os procedimentos realizados e mal
sucedidos para conexão de seu sistema. Se informar sua placa de rede,
tipo de conexão e procedimentos efetuados, certamente alguém o ajudará a
concluir o processo. 

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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Avi e srt em dvd

2009-12-08 Thread Maudy Pedrao
Ele é bem simples e fácil.
Abra o Devede e escolha a opção DVD (deve ser a primeira, não me lembro). Ai
vc inclui os arquivos AVI, edita o menu, insere a legenda e finito.

Tutoriais? Google, meu fio!
Abs!!

2009/12/8 Marcio Castro spyboo...@gmail.com

 Pedrao eu tenho esse DeVeDE.
 Vc tem algum tutorial que ensine a fazer esse passo

 2009/12/8 Maudy Pedrao mped...@gmail.com

  Instale o DeVeDe, pela CPU (central de programas ubuntu)
 
  2009/12/8 Marcio Castro spyboo...@gmail.com
 
   Ola companheiros do grupo, estou a procura de algum software para
  tranforma
   um arquivo avi e de legenda srt em dvd como legenda pra poder roda num
  dvd
   player caseiro.
  
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] LTSP (Thin Clients) - No server

2009-12-08 Thread Reginaldo Radel
Olás,

Usei LTSP por muitos anos, primeiro no Conectiva, depois no Mandriva e 
finalmente conheci o Kubuntu, acho que era o 6.04.

Desde o 9.04 uso TCOS e estou muito contente com a facilidade, 
documentação, 
suporte desta tecnologia, sem falar que os recursos são muito, mas muito 
superiores ao LTPS.

Recomendo darem uma olhada em

http://br.tcosproject.org/

Tem até tutorial para o Ubuntu em http://br.tcosproject.org/?page_id=16

Apesar de eu ter feito tudo na unha e usar Kubuntu, foi tranquila a 
instalação. Com a ferramenta gráfica TCOS Server configurator então, são só 
alguns cliques e tudo funciona. Virei fã de primeira.

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Em Terça-feira 08 Dezembro 2009 09:21:16 Nilson Chagas escreveu:
 Desculpe me meter na conversa mas...
 
 1) Pode se instalar o ubuntu em thin clients???
 
 2) O que ele usa para se conectar no servidor?? Pq eu uso o RDP e tenho
 problemas com letras maiusculas.
 
 3) Qual modelo de thin clients vcs usam??
 
  Oi Alex. Uso o ubuntu 9.04 + ltsp numa rede com 15 máquinas thinclient.
  Você
  já executou o clássico:
  # ltsp-update-sshkeys  ltsp-update-kernels  ltsp-update-image
  O dhcp-server ta configurado ok?
  abraços,
  Gustavo
 

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