Re: [Ubuntu-ch] regional contact cleanup
Hi Kaelin. i think this isn't a good action - loosing contacts to people who can't read this List frquently is quickly done - regaining those people is hard work. I would rethink this cleanup. What is a contact worth, if he/she does not react or is unavailable? Better have 10 ppl in the list who can really act as contact person, then 100 where 90 are inactive. Besides that, we lose nothing. This is a wiki and all revisions are stored. So if we need to look back, we can just open an older revision. Hope that makes it clearer. Greets Marcus -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list Ubuntu-ch@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
Re: [Ubuntu-ch] regional contact cleanup
Heya there, my opinion on the whole subject: The wikipage is merely a list of people who want to give support for Ubuntu - these are *not* necessarely the same people who want to do any kind of community work. If I think I'm able to give support for Ubuntu, why should I have to join a mailinglist which is about topics which most likely neither influence me, nor are interesting for me? Even more so for people which aren't able to speak English very well. So, in my opinion: Sending a people a (personal!) email to see if they're still active, and if needed delete them (maybe after a second reminder, some people tend to overlook some mails) is okay. *Forcing* people to join a Mailinglist in order to continue to be able to share the spirit of Ubuntu by giving support is clearly not. Not everyone is comfortable with mailinglists. Not everyone is comfortable with English. Not everyone is interested in the topics either. This significantly puts the barrier for some people willing to give support up, which is not a good thing at all. Informing there there is a such thing like a mailing list is enough. Why force them to join? i think this isn't a good action - loosing contacts to people who can't read this List frquently is quickly done - regaining those people is hard work. Besides that, we lose nothing. This is a wiki and all revisions are stored. So if we need to look back, we can just open an older revision. I think Tscheesy was mainly talking about the psychological loss here, not about the technical side. The important point is these are people *locally* to someone who needs support. If I need support, I don't care about the 80 people of the 90 who aren't in my area. A cleanup might be needed because there are indeed people who maybe quit using ubuntu or have another adress and just forgot about removing themselves from the list. But if we need to do a cleanup, we need to do it as soft as possible (i.e. long deadlines, more than one reminder. To err is human, and I regularely flag some mails as important and look at them some weeks later). We should value the people giving something back to the community, not restrict them. Just my $0.02, Florian (who is, by the way, perfectly fine with being on this mailing list :P) -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list Ubuntu-ch@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
UDD up-to-date
progress in recent weeks: * John did great work to give much faster branching of large linear histories, like linaro-gcc: this is now 3x faster (down from 3h to 1h to branch to me in Australia; flatlined pipe would be about 15m so there's some room for more) * package importer is getting smarter at dealing with lp downtime, and at the same time lp is doing great work on not having any downtime * bzr 2.4.1 is in Oneiric: many speedups compared to Natty - I am happy to hear at least some developers say speed is generally no longer an issue * jelmer is working on multi-tarball imports with good progress * mgz joined the canonical bazaar team, hooray * jam's working on high-availability for the launchpad bzr server, so that when launchpad do an update clients will smoothly disconnect and reconnect mgz, jam and vila will be at UDS-P: we need to propose some session topics: at the moment I'm thinking of one about BuildFromBranchIntoArchive, one about quilt merging, one about bzr/lp/udd in general. Any other ideas? Martin -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-distributed-devel
Re: UDD up-to-date
On Tue 27 Sep 2011 11:34:57 AM CEST, Martin Pool wrote: Thanks for posting the progress update. mgz, jam and vila will be at UDS-P: we need to propose some session topics: at the moment I'm thinking of one about BuildFromBranchIntoArchive, one about quilt merging, one about bzr/lp/udd in general. Any other ideas? I think BuildFromBranchIntoArchive is pretty well defined at this point. It might be good to have another session about BuildFromBranchIntoPrimary, though I'm not sure if there's much new to learn there. Cheers, Jelmer -- ubuntu-distributed-devel mailing list ubuntu-distributed-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-distributed-devel
Re: Join Ubuntu Oneiric Beta 2 Laptop Testing
2011/9/27 chris hermansen clherman...@gmail.com: Wow! WOW! *W*O*W* When I came back to my elderly Toshiba laptop tonight, which is running patched-up-to-date Beta-2, it had suspended itself! And, the most amazing thing, when I touched the power switch, it came back to life successfully - network, Google connection, and everything! Fantastic and great work to all the people who made this happen! That's nice, but remember to report it on the tracker as beta2 result and to comment the bug you previously open about that, so other people with your laptop can benefit from it. Ciao! -- Sergio Zanchetta https://launchpad.net/~primes2h -- Ubuntu-qa mailing list Ubuntu-qa@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa
[ubuntu-in] Red Hat engineer renews attack on Windows 8-certified secure boot
Hi See the troubling article, linked and pasted below. Am sure that in time there will be a work around, but meanwhile it is troublesome, What do you think ? Does Ubuntu have any comments / responses to this ? ram PS - the first mail with the entire article bounced, so am reposting with only some of the article, the rest will have to be read online Red Hat engineer renews attack on Windows 8-certified secure boot http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/26/uefi_linux_lock_out_row_latest/ A senior Red Hat engineer has lashed back at Microsoft's attempt to downplay concernshttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/23/ms_denies_uefi_lock_in/that upcoming secure boot features will make it impossible to install Linux on Windows 8 certified systems. Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI http://www.uefi.org/home) specifications are designed to offer faster boot times and improved security over current BIOS ROM systems. The secure boot feature of the specification is designed so that only digitally signed OS loaders will load, a security feature that would prevent the installation of generic copies of Linux or FreeBSD as well as preventing rootkits and other boot-time malware from running. A digitally signed build of Linux would work, but that would mean persuading OEMs to include the keys. Disabling the feature would allow unsigned code to run. However, it is unclear how many OEMs and firmware vendors will follow this route, which isn't required for Windows 8 certification. The forthcoming secure boot feature has created a huge row with computer scientists, such as Ross Anderson of Cambridge University (herehttp://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2011/09/20/trusted-computing-2-0), and open-source developers who accuse Microsoft of pushing lock-in and decreasing consumer choice. Microsoft respondedhttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/22/protecting-the-pre-os-environment-with-uefi.aspxby saying consumers would continue to control their PC and cited the example of one OEM, Samsung, which is including a disable secure boot feature on prototype versions of its tablet PC. Article Snipped here -- Ram _http://www.munsiari.com Amazing Indians: Transforming lives in the hillshttp://www.timesnow.tv/Amazing-Indians-Transforming-lives-in-the-hills/videoshow/4383022.cms -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[ubuntu-in] Help with Open / Libre office printing
Hi was wanting to know if its possible to print the squiggly spelling mistake lines in either open or libre office can't seem to find any options and googling does not seem to turn up the right answers. ram PS haven't yet googled print squiggly lines as yet -- Ram _http://www.munsiari.com Amazing Indians: Transforming lives in the hillshttp://www.timesnow.tv/Amazing-Indians-Transforming-lives-in-the-hills/videoshow/4383022.cms -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with Open / Libre office printing
Hi, I think Prnt Scr and saving it as an image file is the only available option. Definitely the easiest one. Jagadeesh --- Not to decide is to decide. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote: Hi was wanting to know if its possible to print the squiggly spelling mistake lines in either open or libre office can't seem to find any options and googling does not seem to turn up the right answers. ram PS haven't yet googled print squiggly lines as yet -- Ram _http://www.munsiari.com Amazing Indians: Transforming lives in the hillshttp://www.timesnow.tv/Amazing-Indians-Transforming-lives-in-the-hills/videoshow/4383022.cms -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Red Hat engineer renews attack on Windows 8-certified secure boot
Hi Ram, The community has not talked anything regarding this issue. But The members like me, who like to have some advocacy, talked with some of the friends and I got some points. 1) There is the possibility that you can disable the secured boot and so you can boot Linux in the machine. 2) In the talk, they also told that Windows peeps have done some contribution to the Linux community and other stuff. But the point 1 is kind of okay for now. But none knows about the future. We, the users, are still waiting for the proper path of where this is going to lead. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote: Hi See the troubling article, linked and pasted below. Am sure that in time there will be a work around, but meanwhile it is troublesome, What do you think ? Does Ubuntu have any comments / responses to this ? ram PS - the first mail with the entire article bounced, so am reposting with only some of the article, the rest will have to be read online Red Hat engineer renews attack on Windows 8-certified secure boot http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/26/uefi_linux_lock_out_row_latest/ A senior Red Hat engineer has lashed back at Microsoft's attempt to downplay concernshttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/23/ms_denies_uefi_lock_in/that upcoming secure boot features will make it impossible to install Linux on Windows 8 certified systems. Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI http://www.uefi.org/home) specifications are designed to offer faster boot times and improved security over current BIOS ROM systems. The secure boot feature of the specification is designed so that only digitally signed OS loaders will load, a security feature that would prevent the installation of generic copies of Linux or FreeBSD as well as preventing rootkits and other boot-time malware from running. A digitally signed build of Linux would work, but that would mean persuading OEMs to include the keys. Disabling the feature would allow unsigned code to run. However, it is unclear how many OEMs and firmware vendors will follow this route, which isn't required for Windows 8 certification. The forthcoming secure boot feature has created a huge row with computer scientists, such as Ross Anderson of Cambridge University (herehttp://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/2011/09/20/trusted-computing-2-0), and open-source developers who accuse Microsoft of pushing lock-in and decreasing consumer choice. Microsoft respondedhttp://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2011/09/22/protecting-the-pre-os-environment-with-uefi.aspxby saying consumers would continue to control their PC and cited the example of one OEM, Samsung, which is including a disable secure boot feature on prototype versions of its tablet PC. Article Snipped here -- Ram _http://www.munsiari.com/ Amazing Indians: Transforming lives in the hillshttp://www.timesnow.tv/Amazing-Indians-Transforming-lives-in-the-hills/videoshow/4383022.cms -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in Regards -- Mohi My Site http://techspear.com/ Ubuntu Beginners Team https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam Member Join Us https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Membership Ubuntu Beginners team is the place where I found the meaning for my Life. UBT is not just a team, its my Home. My Wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mohan_chml -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with Open / Libre office printing
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jagadeesh Krishnamurthy kja...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I think Prnt Scr and saving it as an image file is the only available option. Definitely the easiest one. Jagadeesh terrible option, may be ok for one or two pages, but anything more and it will be a huge headache thanks anyway ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with Open / Libre office printing
Maybe an option to save the doc file as jpegs would be brilliant. We hope someone comes up with that, if not available already. Jagadeesh --- Not to decide is to decide. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jagadeesh Krishnamurthy kja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think Prnt Scr and saving it as an image file is the only available option. Definitely the easiest one. Jagadeesh terrible option, may be ok for one or two pages, but anything more and it will be a huge headache thanks anyway ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Ubuntu coverage on CNBC
can we watch offline now ? any link ? or any blog post about it ? The link was already posted by someone on this mailing list. I'll re-post. Here is the link to the video: http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/187217/tech-toyz-list-of-must-have-applications.html . The review of Ubuntu starts at 15:06 and ends at 20:55 in the video. Enjoy! Best Regards, Rigved Rakshit -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with Open / Libre office printing
U can save it as pdf although the lines wont be there . So saving it as a jpg dont help On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Jagadeesh Krishnamurthy kja...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe an option to save the doc file as jpegs would be brilliant. We hope someone comes up with that, if not available already. Jagadeesh --- Not to decide is to decide. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jagadeesh Krishnamurthy kja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think Prnt Scr and saving it as an image file is the only available option. Definitely the easiest one. Jagadeesh terrible option, may be ok for one or two pages, but anything more and it will be a huge headache thanks anyway ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
Re: [ubuntu-in] Help with Open / Libre office printing
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 10:29 PM, fahad fazil fahad.fazil...@gmail.comwrote: U can save it as pdf although the lines wont be there . So saving it as a jpg dont help yep, exporting to jpegs doesn't work unless the export has to option to show the red squiggles wonder if there are other software that allows printing of th squiggles, latex or something -?? ram On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Jagadeesh Krishnamurthy kja...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe an option to save the doc file as jpegs would be brilliant. We hope someone comes up with that, if not available already. Jagadeesh --- Not to decide is to decide. On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Ramnarayan.K ramnaraya...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Jagadeesh Krishnamurthy kja...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I think Prnt Scr and saving it as an image file is the only available option. Definitely the easiest one. Jagadeesh terrible option, may be ok for one or two pages, but anything more and it will be a huge headache thanks anyway ram -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in -- Ram _http://www.munsiari.com Amazing Indians: Transforming lives in the hillshttp://www.timesnow.tv/Amazing-Indians-Transforming-lives-in-the-hills/videoshow/4383022.cms -- ubuntu-in mailing list ubuntu-in@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-in
[Ubuntu-QC] pfSense2 sous KVM ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour Est-ce que qq'un a réussi à virtualiser pfSense 2 sous KVM (www.pfsense.org) ? Je choises Unix-FeeBSD8 comme base pour l'installation de la machine virtuelle et j'ai tenté qqs combinaison de configurations, mais quoique je fasse la VM démarre et s'arrête toujours, comme gelée. Merci pour toute indication si qq'un joue avec ça ;) A+ Fabian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6BoR4ACgkQfUcTXFrypNWVEQCeLiLPOFj4iJynrccM93iEz0WH uwQAoKmB+A9KsJ4JL0IOeovQFM6GHVNy =hiRp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] pfSense2 sous KVM ?
J'ai lue trop vite et je n'ai pas remarque que tu as utilise freebsd comme machine hôte. Le 27 sept. 2011 06:11, Fabián Rodríguez magic...@ubuntu.com a écrit : -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] pfSense2 sous KVM ?
Elle arrête durant le boot? C'est quoi le dernier message à l'écran? David Montminy On 2011-09-27 06:10, Fabián Rodríguez wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour Est-ce que qq'un a réussi à virtualiser pfSense 2 sous KVM (www.pfsense.org) ? Je choises Unix-FeeBSD8 comme base pour l'installation de la machine virtuelle et j'ai tenté qqs combinaison de configurations, mais quoique je fasse la VM démarre et s'arrête toujours, comme gelée. Merci pour toute indication si qq'un joue avec ça ;) A+ Fabian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: PGP/Mime available upon request Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk6BoR4ACgkQfUcTXFrypNWVEQCeLiLPOFj4iJynrccM93iEz0WH uwQAoKmB+A9KsJ4JL0IOeovQFM6GHVNy =hiRp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- David Montminy -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
[Ubuntu-QC] Désabonnement de votre liste merci
Désabonnement de votre liste merci Argy Verre argy.ve...@yahoo.ca -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [Ubuntu-QC] Désabonnement de votre liste merci
Vous devriez recevoir un courriel de confirmation bientôt. Bonne fin de journée Fred 2011/9/27 Argy Verre argy.ve...@yahoo.ca Désabonnement de votre liste merci Argy Verre argy.ve...@yahoo.ca -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec -- In a world without walls, who really needs Windows Nothing is foolproof because fools are so ingenious -- Ubuntu-quebec mailing list Ubuntu-quebec@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-quebec
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server
Sorry, this is turning into a big rant about web based admin and having a gui on a small office/home server, but this is something that really really pushes the GAH buttons for me. begin more ranting On 26 September 2011 22:18, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote: snip me ranting lots Well the main benefit of a web based UI is that you don't need all the desktop GUI libraries on the server, Yes, because HDD space is expensive these days! Lets have a look shall we, on the front page of ebuyer this, http://www.ebuyer.com/251310-extra-value-desktop-7873-1036 a cheap desktop with 1TB of disk space for less than £200. http://www.ebuyer.com/264274-wd-2tb-3-5-sata-iii-6gb-s-caviar-green-hard-drive-64mb-cache-wd20earx a 2TB HDD for less than £70. This really isn't an argument anymore. which means that the server stays a server and can be a fairly lean machine that doesn't burn CPU to paint a desktop (important for a small office where running a powerful server 24x7 can be prohibitively expensive and/or noisy). Ok, so to run XFCE the minimum spec is a 300MHz CPU and 192MB of RAM (http://wiki.xfce.org/minimum_requirements), again I can see that this adds a massive overhead on the currently underspecced bottom range computers since my eeePC could do that standing on it's head and still be coping ok. Since you could do that on this £60 quid motherboard (http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=60 first one at the top entitled Intel D425KT Fanless Atom Mini-ITX Board) and still have processing power left over, which is passivley cooled so has no need for noisy fans, I fail to see this as an argument in the environments this is aimed at. Most of the small offices I go to use Mac Minis for this kind of thing, you seem to be assuming you'd need a 1U rackmount server! And considering the size and complexity of GUI code these days, adding a GUI to a server is likely to increase the potential for bug several folds. because that's less complicated to debug than a full stack of Webserver/Interpreter (PHP/Python)/Database (mysql/postgres/couch/whatever)/backend services to prevent webserver requiring root privs/ and then the stack of other services you actually want. Of course, if something breaks in a GUI environment, I'd suspect the average person on the end of the phone wouldn't be too scared of being talked through fixing it rather than average bloke on the end of th phone where you say First go to the server and go to the console and do this - Easiest way to destroy sales ever. I hear what you say about web front-ends but balancing the pros and cons, I would still go for a web front-end, mainly to keep the server lightweight. This doesn't preclude a standard GUI front-end on client machines though. On todays hardware I really wouldn't. -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 08:28 +0100, Matthew Daubney wrote: [...] I'd suspect the average person on the end of the phone wouldn't be too scared of being talked through fixing it rather than average bloke on the end of th phone where you say First go to the server and go to the console and do this - Easiest way to destroy sales ever. Being able to connect over SSH and fix things is priceless :) I help my mom remotely (I'm in UK, she's in Spain), and every time I need to fix any GUI thing... it's a real nightmare. It's not only a bandwidth/latency issue, it's slower and less efficient. That said, I agree with you that GUI tools to deal with servers it's a good (optional) thing for people that want to get the power but they don't care about the associated knowledge. I think that's old news. Back in the day, Windows NT success vs the old Unices was the GUI; although remote admin is a real pain even today. I know people in a corporate environment that use RHEL basically because the GUI tools. The have the feel of Linux power, but at the same time it's just point click in a dialog window. Regards, Juan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server
Well the main benefit of a web based UI is that you don't need all the desktop GUI libraries on the server, Yes, because HDD space is expensive these days! My understanding is is not about space. Extra libraries means extra attack vectors, extra things to update and to go wrong. Even Microsoft seems to have grasped this with Windows server 8 having the desktop as an optional extra. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server
2011/9/27 Juan J. reid...@usebox.net: On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 08:28 +0100, Matthew Daubney wrote: [...] I'd suspect the average person on the end of the phone wouldn't be too scared of being talked through fixing it rather than average bloke on the end of th phone where you say First go to the server and go to the console and do this - Easiest way to destroy sales ever. Being able to connect over SSH and fix things is priceless :) Yesterday I spent nearly an hour explaining how to do port forwards to the head of IT at a company I deal with now and again so I could do this. That is hassle that is best avoided in all honesty. snip I know people in a corporate environment that use RHEL basically because the GUI tools. The have the feel of Linux power, but at the same time it's just point click in a dialog window. This is more or less exactley my point really. -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server
On 27 September 2011 08:47, Dan Attwood danattw...@gmail.com wrote: Well the main benefit of a web based UI is that you don't need all the desktop GUI libraries on the server, Yes, because HDD space is expensive these days! My understanding is is not about space. Extra libraries means extra attack vectors, extra things to update and to go wrong. Even Microsoft seems to have grasped this with Windows server 8 having the desktop as an optional extra. Again, you seem to be thinking this would go into places where people have a clue. The kind of target market for these kind of things is a small office with maybe 4-10 people or a slightly technical person at home with a couple of machines. They'd probably have someone else plug it into their network behind their ADSL router, and have someone else come and quickly explain how to connect machines to it and look after it. It's already behind a firewall (at the router) and it's very unlikely you'd have something like this directly connected to the net doing router like tasks. It may be issuing DHCP/DNS whatever to the network, but it would not route network traffic. If you where putting something in place where people where worried about that kind of thing you'd use the standard Ubuntu server, as they'd probably have an IT staff who could be trained. Not just the admin person who also gets the job of doing what the guy on the end of the phone says. Again, we're back to people thinking of a server as a big thing that runs lots and lots of services, has to be lightweight, fast and more secure than anything else ever when really, they're not! -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 08:48 +0100, Matthew Daubney wrote: 2011/9/27 Juan J. reidrac@: On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 08:28 +0100, Matthew Daubney wrote: [...] I'd suspect the average person on the end of the phone wouldn't be too scared of being talked through fixing it rather than average bloke on the end of th phone where you say First go to the server and go to the console and do this - Easiest way to destroy sales ever. Being able to connect over SSH and fix things is priceless :) Yesterday I spent nearly an hour explaining how to do port forwards to the head of IT at a company I deal with now and again so I could do this. That is hassle that is best avoided in all honesty. If the head of IT had problems to do a port forward, something's broken... and it's not Linux hehehe snip I know people in a corporate environment that use RHEL basically because the GUI tools. The have the feel of Linux power, but at the same time it's just point click in a dialog window. This is more or less exactley my point really. I couldn't stress enough the optional part in my previous message :) Actually the fact Ubuntu has a good reputation as Desktop OS plays against the distribution in the server arena. I've seen it a dozen of times, technical people discarding Ubuntu Server and using Debian instead without providing a good reason for that but it's Ubuntu Server and I don't like it for servers. We're obviously talking about different users here, but having desktop + GUI tools by default in Ubuntu Server would be a no-go for the technical userbase of Ubuntu. Regards, Juan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server
2011/9/27 Juan J. reid...@usebox.net: snip We're obviously talking about different users here, but having desktop + GUI tools by default in Ubuntu Server would be a no-go for the technical userbase of Ubuntu. Good, again, we've just ignored the target audience and decided that it's actually aimed at current technical users of Ubuntu. Shall we start again? -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server
Juan J. wrote: Actually the fact Ubuntu has a good reputation as Desktop OS plays against the distribution in the server arena. I've seen it a dozen of times, technical people discarding Ubuntu Server and using Debian instead without providing a good reason for that but it's Ubuntu Server and I don't like it for servers. I've seen an increase in people asking for a 'Ubuntu server' rather than a 'Linux' one recently, though. And Ubuntu (now) has the advantage over Debian of coming with all the non-free firmware to make it actually work on hardware. I'm, recently, generally leaning towards Debian on the desktop where I don't get surprised every dist-upgrade and Ubuntu on the server where I get a kernel from the last few months. We're obviously talking about different users here, but having desktop + GUI tools by default in Ubuntu Server would be a no-go for the technical userbase of Ubuntu. As soon as you're using the phrase 'small business server' you're not talking of the technical userbase of Ubuntu. 'small business servers' are almost always in a position where the person administering them is not in any way qualified to do so. Moreso home servers. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] What should be done for 12.04
On 26/09/11 21:33, alan c wrote: On 26/09/11 14:45, Alan Bell wrote: 5) aggressive and well funded marketing campaign Yes yes yes please! I agree, as I suggested put some flyers etc in the repositories so users can download them, that way everyone has access to something, if 1 person prints 1 flyer and puts it up it helps, if everyone did that then it would really really have impact, don't forget to include the ubuntu website address on the flyer i have found flyers lacking some basic information such as this, if they are also easily editable with space to include local user groups or the Uk-ubuntu website it would help too. agressive does not mean expensive, what is the cost of 1 sheet of paper and some sticky tack. Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] What should be done for 12.04
On 26/09/11 21:39, Andres wrote: - Mensaje original - On 26/09/11 13:48, Alan Pope wrote: Now we're perilously close to releasing 11.10 onto the world, it's been asked [0] what things the developers would like to see the focus on for the 12.04 (Long Term Support) release. sorry I am not a developer will shut my big mouth now!!! Neither am I, however end users can contribute ideas etc, as they are end users they come across problems or come up with ideas that developers can easily overlook. Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 08:54 +0100, Matthew Daubney wrote: On 27 September 2011 08:47, Dan Attwood danattw...@gmail.com wrote: Well the main benefit of a web based UI is that you don't need all the desktop GUI libraries on the server, Yes, because HDD space is expensive these days! My understanding is is not about space. Extra libraries means extra attack vectors, extra things to update and to go wrong. Even Microsoft seems to have grasped this with Windows server 8 having the desktop as an optional extra. Again, you seem to be thinking this would go into places where people have a clue. The kind of target market for these kind of things is a small office with maybe 4-10 people or a slightly technical person at home with a couple of machines. They'd probably have someone else plug it into their network behind their ADSL router, and have someone else come and quickly explain how to connect machines to it and look after it. It's already behind a firewall (at the router) and it's very unlikely you'd have something like this directly connected to the net doing router like tasks. It may be issuing DHCP/DNS whatever to the network, but it would not route network traffic. If you where putting something in place where people where worried about that kind of thing you'd use the standard Ubuntu server, as they'd probably have an IT staff who could be trained. Not just the admin person who also gets the job of doing what the guy on the end of the phone says. Again, we're back to people thinking of a server as a big thing that runs lots and lots of services, has to be lightweight, fast and more secure than anything else ever when really, they're not! -Matt Daubney Matt I still think a full blown desktop is a faff. If you're not in the office and need to access the box forwarding x over a hotel network is not going to be fun in any shape or form. Hence my daft but functional ncursor suggestion. I've used the like of MC over a dodge network to swap around some files and that functions at a similar speed to if you have direct access to the box. I think in all honestly if you are running the box headless then the concept of a desktop becomes less useful. I do however agree the your average SOHO user is going to panic the minute he/she sees the terminal and nothing else. I think a welcome screen, byobu for general info, and a page of ncursor buttons that do the bulk of the essential duties would be more than enough. On the whole this is a box that the average SOHO user is going to want to setup once and then not tinker with again after that. They have wordpress/drupal/wiki style web pages that they will care about the most which is ermm web based admin and it's this that will have the most changes applied to it. For the SOHO user this is a box that sits in the corner and does what is required of it with the minimum of fuss or admin. -- Seek That Thy Might Know http://www.davmor2.co.uk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Diaspora hash
I just made an #ubuntu-uk Diaspora hash as there wasn't one - if you add the hash to posts, it should make it easier for people to find each other by searching on the hash? Paula -- Paula Graham Director | Fossbox http://www.fossbox.org.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diaspora hash
On 27/09/11 11:45, gazz wrote: I just made an #ubuntu-uk Diaspora hash as there wasn't one - if you add the hash to posts, it should make it easier for people to find each other by searching on the hash? Paula I gave up with diaspora ages ago, Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Diaspora hash
I think they were too slow out of the blocks. A couple of days ago I offered my FB friends an invite, take up rate - zero. I think if Diaspora was used correctly, we could turn it into an ad hoc forum. Any test # post worked. Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server
On 27 September 2011 11:38, Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk wrote: snip more of me ranting Matt I still think a full blown desktop is a faff. If you're not in the office and need to access the box forwarding x over a hotel network is not going to be fun in any shape or form. Simple question: How many average users do you expect would do this? snip ncurses stuff They have wordpress/drupal/wiki style web pages that they will care about the most which is ermm web based admin and it's this that will have the most changes applied to it. None of these things have been raised as things that would be installed on this box. I'd hesitate to do so simply because there are web services that provide these things for free that would do the security for them and not require any port forwarding setup on a router. I see a SOHO server as providing the following (in various fashions) * LDAP auth stuff * Maybe calendering * Computer control options on a workgroup/per user scale (you laugh, I'm asked for this regularly) * Maybe some NAS functions (very limited in scope, NAS type things should be dedicated boxes) * DHCP/DNS (again in a limited scope) Yes you could provide other things, but that is what I see as a base set of functionality based on what people have asked me for in the past. If you start saying Yes but you could provide this, that and the other too you end up trying to do many things at once, and will end up doing nothing particularly well. For the SOHO user this is a box that sits in the corner and does what is required of it with the minimum of fuss or admin. First you need to define what is required which was the original question, which has ended up in a debate about how best to let users configure the box! -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] What should be done for 12.04
-- Paula Graham Director | Fossbox http://www.fossbox.org.uk On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 14:45 +0100, Alan Bell wrote: On 26/09/11 13:48, Alan Pope wrote: I wondered what you lot might desire for 12.04? 1) better focus on accessibility earlier in the cycle 2) a more testable desktop earlier, this time it has been hard to test detailed stuff because the huge breakages get in the way. 3) a more menu-like applications lens, grouping them by category. 4) window management improvements relating to workspaces so alt-tab could have a per-workspace scope 5) aggressive and well funded marketing campaign 6) change Ubuntu friendly and Ubuntu certified stuff so that the sales process is part of the certification - i.e. refuse to sell the stuff, lose the badge. Also withdraw it from all products a vendor makes if they ship something with EFI secure boot that won't allow non-microsoft keys. 7) make an EFI secure boot signed live CD - this will be a problem as it won't build bit for bit from source. 8) a pony 9) moon on a stick Alan -- Libertus Solutions http://libertus.co.uk I'll preface this with positive praise for the improvements in Unity in 11.10 which is actually pleasant to use overall - especially the alt+tab switcher is now very functional. But . . . Could we puhleez be allowed at least some dregs of pitiful control over our Unity Desktops? Custom launchers and widgets? At the moment, the only way I can mount my encfs folders, for example, is in the terminal - unless I want to write a custom launcher by creating desktop files. There used to be a widget but it no longer works and I can't even create a custom launcher without setting aside half an hour. Sync-ui doesn't create a proper launcher button either and it's a total pain in the arse to fix. It's very, very irritating, wastes time and interrupts the flow of my work to have to open a terminal every five minutes when I'm working in LO or something - and I can't see how it inconveniences non-techies to have custom launchers *available*. I want to add buttons to the launcher for repetitive stuff like mounting things and syncing etc. Why is this too much to ask? Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] What should be done for 12.04
Indeed, oneiric's Unity is currently taking so long to load on my Lenovo that I can make a cup of tea and do a spot of washing up in the meantime. Apps are slow to load, evolution lumbers like a mammoth. It's not terribly stable either. It was fabulous at Maverick, quick and stable - agree it'd be good to get Unity in such good shape first. -- Paula Graham Director | Fossbox http://www.fossbox.org.uk On Mon, 2011-09-26 at 13:03 +, Simon Watson wrote: Seconded :) --Original Message-- From: Tyler J. Wagner Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com To: UK Ubuntu Talk Cc: Alan Pope ReplyTo: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] What should be done for 12.04 Sent: 26 Sep 2011 14:02 On 2011-09-26 13:48, Alan Pope wrote: I wondered what you lot might desire for 12.04? I'd like to see the issues of power consumption on Intel chipsets (since 11.04) resolved. Regards, Tyler -- If we confuse dissent with disloyalty — if we deny the right of the individual to be wrong, unpopular, eccentric or unorthodox — if we deny the essence of racial equality then hundreds of millions in Asia and Africa who are shopping about for a new allegiance will conclude that we are concerned to defend a myth and our present privileged status. Every act that denies or limits the freedom of the individual in this country costs us the ... confidence of men and women who aspire to that freedom and independence of which we speak and for which our ancestors fought. -- Edward R. Murrow -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] What should be done for 12.04
I'm sorry, but if you want stability for a Server etc, you'd be going with RHEL, SELD or Cent OS, because they are the most stable (nowhere near the best, especially Cent OS), but they are rock stable. Ubuntu's market should be the end-user market of regular people, not business. Ubuntu is meant to be the cutting-edge, desirable and easy to use Linux System, not the stable, corporate one! Just saying, Nick. From: Liam Proven lpro...@gmail.com To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Monday, 26 September 2011, 15:19 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] What should be done for 12.04 On 26 September 2011 13:48, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: Now we're perilously close to releasing 11.10 onto the world, it's been asked [0] what things the developers would like to see the focus on for the 12.04 (Long Term Support) release. Personally I would like all core applications to support proxy servers properly. Especially as it's an LTS release which is arguably well-suited to corporate users who are those most often behind proxy servers. (ubuntu one file sync being something that doesn't work behind proxies) I wondered what you lot might desire for 12.04? Since nobody else has even mentioned it... How about ensuring complete feature parity between Unity Unity-2D? Apart from the 3D effects, I feel that they should look and work identically. At the moment, on Oneiric, from a quick look, they're not - e.g. the 2D version has differently-shaped buttons. I would also urge more testing of Unity on lower-end kit. I find the animations very jerky when moving between desktops, for instance. I would like an option to turn the animations off. Indeed, more customisability for Unity would be a good thing, even if that just means bringing confity or CompizConfig and the Ubuntu Unity Plugin into the distro as standard. AFAICS these don't work at all with Unity-2D, too, BTW. That's a hole that could do with closing. I found it much more pleasant to use after turning off the lairy coloured backgrounds and shrinking the buttons by about 25%, myself, for instance. -- Liam Proven • Info profile: http://www.google.com/profiles/lproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel: +44 20-8685-0498 • Cell: +44 7939-087884 • Fax: + 44 870-9151419 AIM/Yahoo/Skype: liamproven • MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • ICQ: 73187508 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] What should be done for 12.04
Nick McAlpin wrote: I'm sorry, but if you want stability for a Server etc, you'd be going with RHEL, SELD or Cent OS, because they are the most stable (nowhere near the best, especially Cent OS), but they are rock stable. Ubuntu's market should be the end-user market of regular people, not business. Ubuntu is meant to be the cutting-edge, desirable and easy to use Linux System, not the stable, corporate one! True as this may be (though I'd not put any of those on a server), it's patently not Canonical's view, and I've seen many a server happily run Ubuntu. Really, though, there's nothing to Ubuntu that makes it particularly poor in a server, perhaps it's not so well suited to a heterogenous pool of them (I've never had the pleasure of such a collection of machines), but as standalone boxes they're absolutely fine. -- Avi -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] What should be done for 12.04
On 26/09/11 13:48, Alan Pope wrote: Now we're perilously close to releasing 11.10 onto the world, it's been asked [0] what things the developers would like to see the focus on for the 12.04 (Long Term Support) release. Personally I would like all core applications to support proxy servers properly. Especially as it's an LTS release which is arguably well-suited to corporate users who are those most often behind proxy servers. (ubuntu one file sync being something that doesn't work behind proxies) I wondered what you lot might desire for 12.04? A default email client that actually works and doesn't grind to a halt, even when your sister sends you a 4MB photo of your nieces. Thunderbird is an improvement on Evolution but I find that neither of them is as fluid and well behaved with large email as MS Outlook 2003 is (which I use at work). I know that there are probably some settings I can fiddle with to make Thunderbird better behaved but I'd like it to be well behaved out of the box. Cheers, Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [orca-list] What happened with Orca in Oneiric
Uncheck the box that says show orca window and you should be good to go along with all other preferences you set. The orca window really is properly the orca setup dialog. On Sun, 25 Sep 2011, Guy Schlosser wrote: OK, now the system that was running so beautifully after the upgrade is now in a setup loop. Every time I boot up, after doing nothing but shutting it down after writing this early morning's E-mail, I press alt+f2, type orca and press enter, I get Welcome to orca setup. Then I have to play 20 questions all over again. Any ideas? What happened between shutting the system down, and restarting eight hours later? Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Guy On 9/25/2011 3:18 AM, Guy Schlosser wrote: I just finished installing Oneiric on my laptop as an upgrade from a fresh Natty. I am happy to report that all is working with Orca and other applications. I'm observing the same as previously reported, pressing alt+f1 yields nothing, and the alt+f2 box (i.e. dash) also is not accessible. This could be largely due to the bug that currently has a fix committed though, so I am looking forward to that fix being released, for hopeful launcher accessibility. I would also love to test Alejandro's proposed PPA for dash and quicklist accessibility. This brings me to my next question. How do I narrow down what is missing from my other desktop system and preventing accessibility? For example, how do I know if accessibility modules are loaded, and proper key is set to correct value? I installed all updates on that system as well, and still hear nothing read in any application, including Orca's own preferences dialogue. Do I just need to reformat and fresh install with live CD, since it and my laptop are working beautifully? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and off to bed, Guy P.S. This E-mail was written concerning Unity 3d. I have not tried Unity 2d on Laptop yet. ___ orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp Jude jdash...@shellworld.net I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's got God on his side. ~ Bill Hicks -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Re: [orca-list] What happened with Orca in Oneiric
Hey there Jude and thanks for the tip. That's actually what I did that caused the whole loop I think. The orca window was getting in the way, so I went into preferences, and unchecked the box. All was good for the rest of the session until I shutdown for the night. When I powered up eight hours later, and every other time I started up my laptop, I got welcome to orca setup., as if orca is trying to say, you don't want to show my window, screw you. I would love to go back in and re-check it, but I can't get past the orca setup 20 questions. I did notice that Orca 3.2 was released yesterday, so maybe I'll try to update and see if I can break the setup barrior. Any other tips would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and good job to everyone, Guy On 09/27/2011 12:55 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: Uncheck the box that says show orca window and you should be good to go along with all other preferences you set. The orca window really is properly the orca setup dialog. On Sun, 25 Sep 2011, Guy Schlosser wrote: OK, now the system that was running so beautifully after the upgrade is now in a setup loop. Every time I boot up, after doing nothing but shutting it down after writing this early morning's E-mail, I press alt+f2, type orca and press enter, I get Welcome to orca setup. Then I have to play 20 questions all over again. Any ideas? What happened between shutting the system down, and restarting eight hours later? Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Guy On 9/25/2011 3:18 AM, Guy Schlosser wrote: I just finished installing Oneiric on my laptop as an upgrade from a fresh Natty. I am happy to report that all is working with Orca and other applications. I'm observing the same as previously reported, pressing alt+f1 yields nothing, and the alt+f2 box (i.e. dash) also is not accessible. This could be largely due to the bug that currently has a fix committed though, so I am looking forward to that fix being released, for hopeful launcher accessibility. I would also love to test Alejandro's proposed PPA for dash and quicklist accessibility. This brings me to my next question. How do I narrow down what is missing from my other desktop system and preventing accessibility? For example, how do I know if accessibility modules are loaded, and proper key is set to correct value? I installed all updates on that system as well, and still hear nothing read in any application, including Orca's own preferences dialogue. Do I just need to reformat and fresh install with live CD, since it and my laptop are working beautifully? Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks and off to bed, Guy P.S. This E-mail was written concerning Unity 3d. I have not tried Unity 2d on Laptop yet. ___ orca-list mailing list orca-l...@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca. The manual is at http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions Netiquette Guidelines are at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions/NetiquetteGuidelines Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp Judejdash...@shellworld.net I love the Pope, I love seeing him in his Pope-Mobile, his three feet of bullet proof plexi-glass. That's faith in action folks! You know he's got God on his side. ~ Bill Hicks -- Ubuntu-accessibility mailing list Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-accessibility
Release Party/social event for Melbourne?
Hi All, For those that are are in Melbourne, who would be interested in having an small event to acknowledge the release of 11.10? I'm thinking of returning to Horse Bazaar in the city. Due to work commitments, I don't have the time to organise something huge but booking a table somewhere is do able. Regards George -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Re: Release Party/social event for Melbourne?
I'm interested, what date? -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. George Patterson george.patter...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, For those that are are in Melbourne, who would be interested in having an small event to acknowledge the release of 11.10? I'm thinking of returning to Horse Bazaar in the city. Due to work commitments, I don't have the time to organise something huge but booking a table somewhere is do able. Regards George -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au -- ubuntu-au mailing list ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-au
Patch Pilot Report 20110927
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Pilot report from today. https://code.launchpad.net/~utlemming/ubuntu/oneiric/dovecot/oneiric/+merge/76101 Uploaded alongside fixes to actually make mail-stack-delivery work with new version of dovecot in Oneiric https://code.launchpad.net/~utlemming/ubuntu/oneiric/samba/oneiric/+merge/76117 https://code.launchpad.net/~utlemming/ubuntu/oneiric/eucalyptus/oneiric/+merge/76114 https://code.launchpad.net/~utlemming/ubuntu/oneiric/autofs5/oneiric/+merge/76120 Commented with recommendation that these should be delayed until P development - potential for high impact with these changes late in cycle as core services. https://code.launchpad.net/~utlemming/ubuntu/oneiric/munin/oneiric/+merge/76103 https://code.launchpad.net/~utlemming/ubuntu/oneiric/cobbler/oneiric/+merge/76106 Needs Fixing - requested that changelog entries be updated with information as to what the fix resolves as well as the detail of the change itself. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/munin/+bug/840386 Reviewed revised debdiff; Patches are all now well annotated (DEP-3) and make sense to me; debian/changelog entry requires some work as is a little confused and has missing merge aspect - comment added. Cheers James - -- James Page Ubuntu Server Developer -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJOgcbLAAoJEJyvzxFWdG+VyQsH/2REPr79Z+VReAXPMMnUUvr9 8ZAZfZRx24WyHWsLxCjk2cEfVSdouEn6FH0FzYBnUHFCnTEtAkwUlo4jaqzEFa3Y MnYq6uHi+MTUd2hzSquZv5hHUQynNPZaAi62juVJDj3Wgcm8RZILkUtWDVAY90m1 hFruPHxu3U19uyBGXLaGYGMEpoYRfAopf3H2POzXTwdTuOPt01/oUxByGyR3Aitq qzM6py+mGb+8ja7kVyhit+kAtv7oGTgzgnUGLXXxNRQ8Iohrmhgi0wCiZGApzCQ6 +ypSwMXc+F/P4+24m3IPRyejM6hAwbRsnX+wKdwr1IpAu9Kw5qjmB5n4+NlQp6Q= =yPAU -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Proposing Blueprints and Sessions to UDS-P
Hello everyone, Some of you have already been asking how to schedule blueprints for UDS-P. We now have a snazzy wiki page with all the information you need: - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Scheduling One thing to remember this time, Ubuntu will be using the other track for sessions that don't fit anywhere else. Linaro will be using linaro-general to be the same sort of track, but for linaro's others. Also of note, ubuntu-arm is our Ubuntu ARM team, and is marked specifically so so it doesn't get mixed in with the plentitude of other ARM related sessions at UDS. After you've submitted your blueprints, check with the track lead and have them approve it to be scheduled. The list of tracks and leads is here: http://uds.ubuntu.com/tracks/ -- Jorge Castro Canonical Ltd. http://twitter.com/castrojo Help fix Unity Bitesize Bugs: http://goo.gl/i1WA1 -- ubuntu-devel mailing list ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
Ubuntu Kernel Team Meeting Minutes - 2011-09-27
= Meeting Minutes = [[http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/09/27/%23ubuntu-meeting.txt|IRC Log of the meeting.]] BR [[http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam|Meeting minutes.]] == Agenda == [[https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting#Tues, 27 Sep, 2011|20110927 Meeting Agenda]] === ARM Status === Various arm kernel flavours: nothing new this week. Oneiric/ti-omap4: lp844099 (System fails to acknowledge changing of SD), found the problem, wrote a tentative patch and it worked. Sent a test kernel. Oneiric/tegra: new community kernel (2.5.38-ac100-1000) with working sound and suspend/resume (at least on Toshiba AC100). === Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs === oneiric nominated bugs * 37 linux kernel bugs (up 17) Ubuntu ubuntu-11.10 bugs * 3 linux kernel bugs (up 3) series-updates bugs * 0 oneiric linux kernel bugs (no change 0) * 15 natty linux kernel bugs (no change 0) * 3 maverick linux kernel bugs (no change 0) * 7 lucid linux kernel bugs (no change 0) * 0 hardy linux kernel bugs (no change 0) === Incoming Bugs === * 255 oneiric bugs (up 34) * 1643 natty bugs (up 25) * 1107 maverick bugs (down 3) * 992 lucid bugs (down 18) * 46 hardy bugs (no change 0) === Regressions === regression-update bugs * 0 oneiric bugs (no change 0) * 17 natty bugs (no change 0) * 40 maverick bugs (no change 0) * 76 lucid bugs (down 3) * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0) regression-release bugs * 8 oneiric bugs (up 1) * 431 natty bugs (down 2) * 237 maverick bugs (down 2) * 208 lucid bugs (down 5) * 2 hardy bugs (no change 0) regression-proposed bugs * 0 oneiric bugs (no change 0) * 4 natty bugs (no change 0) * 0 maverick bugs (no change 0) * 2 lucid bugs (up 1) * 0 hardy bugs (no change 0) === Milstone Targeted Work Items === || apw || desktop-o-xorg-stakeholders-request || 1 work item || || || other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review || 1 work item || || ppisati || other-kernel-o-ubuntu-delta-review || 1 work item || || || other-kernel-o-config-review|| 1 work item || If your name is in the table above, please review your final Oneiric work items. === Status: General Oneiric === We uploaded the 3.0.0-12.19 Ubuntu kernel last friday. We are nearing Final Freeze for Oneiric this Thurs, Sept 29. Only high/critical issues which are deemed necessary for the release will warrant an upload at this time. Because we are in Kernel Freeze, all patches are subject to our SRU policy in order to be applied. Some important upcoming dates to keep in mind are as follows: * Sept 29 - Final Freeze (2 days) * Oct 6 - Release Candidate (~1 week) * Oct 13 - Final Release (~2 weeks) I would also like to note that the P-series git repo has been rebased to v3.1-rc7 and is available on the master-next branch at git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-p.git . === Status: CVE's === Currently open CVEs for each supported branch: BR || Package || Open || || || || || linux Hardy ||5 (-1) || || linux Lucid ||2 (-1) || || linux Maverick ||2 (-1) || || linux Natty ||2 (-1) || || linux Oneiric||2 (--) || || linux-ec2 Lucid ||2 (-1) || || linux-fsl-imx51 Lucid||2 (-1) || || linux-mvl-dove Lucid ||2 (-1) || || linux-mvl-dove Maverick ||2 (-1) || || linux-ti-omap4 Maverick ||2 (-1) || || linux-ti-omap4 Natty ||2 (-1) || || linux-ti-omap4 Oneiric ||2 (--) || || linux-lts-backport-maverick Lucid||2 (-1) || || linux-lts-backport-natty Lucid ||2 (-1) || BR One additional CVE was added this week and all CVEs with fixes are now closed out. We have referred two of the Hardy CVEs which have very large patch stacks back to the security team for review. === Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Natty/Maverick/Lucid/Hardy === Status of kernels An i915 graphics regression was discovered in Natty which was released in -updates. The offending patch has been identified and will be reverted in the next Natty kernel. Work is under way with upstream to come up with a new fix to add external monitor plug support without regressions. The bugs open for this regression are: * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/838181|External monitor connected trough . . .]] * [[https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/814325|fuzzy and corrupted display after dpms cycles]] SRU kernel status: * [[http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html|Kernel SRU Workflow Status]] * [[http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
gnome-desktop3 string freeze exception request
Bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/824099 requests a string freeze exception request for gnome-desktop3's XRandR support. The workaround for this bug requires that gnome-desktop refuses to configure a multi-head display with a size exceeding GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE when Unity is running. This requires a new error message in gnome-rr-config.c, which will be shown to the user, explaining why their configuration request has been rejected and what they can do about it. Thanks, Chris Halse Rogers. -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: ubuntu-docs Documentation Freeze exception to add Desktop Sharing pages
On 19 September 2011 13:14, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: Hi, I'd like to break the documentation freeze to add the Desktop Sharing pages from GNOME. This will show when users click the Help button in the Desktop Sharing app so it's important that the Help button works. I just pushed the updated pot. We've decided to hold off on typo fixes until Ubuntu 11.10 is released so that strings aren't changed for those minor problems. Thank you, Jeremy -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
UIFE: unity-greeter
This a freeze request to change the background on the indicators in Unity Greeter to be darker. This is so they are more visible over the background. There are no string changes. See this bug for before/after pictures: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-greeter/+bug/860243 -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
String Freeze Exception for Checkbox
Hello, This email is to ask for a string freeze exception in the next upload of Checkbox (0.12.8). On that upload, there are two bugs that will break the string freeze: 1) https://bugs.launchpad.net/checkbox/+bug/852036 Checkbox is going to be used mainly for the Ubuntu Friendly programme. As we don't have menus anymore, the software needs to be easy to discover 2) https://bugs.launchpad.net/checkbox/+bug/855328 This warning message is very important. People are going to use checkbox in Oneiric thanks to the Ubuntu Friendly programme. People could lose data, if they don't save their stuff before starting testing Thanks for your consideration! Cheers, Ara. -- ubuntu-translators mailing list ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-translators
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux MINT?
Utilizo o Mint, desda Helena ( versão 8 ). Sou fã dele, exceto por uma má experiencia com a versão 10 baseada no Debian e LXDE. A pesar de ter me adaptado muito bem ao unity, hoje mantenho o Mint como minha Distro padrão tendo em vista estabilidade e desempenho. Passei pela mesma vergonha citada pelo Frota... Falar maravilhas do Ubuntu e na hora H o Unity brochar. Espero que até o lançamento do Ubuntu 11.10 OO melhore bastante. Tenho utilizado em um máquina de testes desda versão alpha e até agora foi só decepção. Já vi usuários experientes e apaixonados pelo Ubuntu confessarem com pesar sua tristeza com esta nova versão. Como ainda esta em estatus de beta... oremos! Gleyson Lira De: Marcus Mac-Ginity mgin...@gmail.com Para: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Enviadas: Terça-feira, 27 de Setembro de 2011 0:59 Assunto: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux MINT? Bem, já que estamos falando de Mint, tenho o hobby de testar algumas distros e a Mint é a minha predileta... Venho testando as Mint desde as versões 9. Estamos na 11. Como alguns deste grupo já sabem, tenho várias distros instaladas em diferentes partições no mesmo hd de meu notebook e as uso diariamente e as atualizo pelo menos uma vez por semana (só pra ver o que acontece...!!) e tento encontrar uma versão que funcione tudo 100% ou o mais próximo disso (pois sempre tem algum problema com alguma delas!) Já testei muitas distros nos últimos 2 anos mas as que tenho instaladas e uso atualmente são a Mint 10 de 32 e a de 64 bits, a Mint 11 de 32 e de 64 bits, e também a Mint LXDE. Além das Mint tenho o Ubuntu 1104 32bits (cheio de problemas mesmo sem o Unity - que não gostei, além dos bugs). Também tenho para comparação: o Windows Vista e o Seven (que estão praticamente sem uso pois rodo quase tudo em Linux...). E finalmente umas distros bem simpáticas: Tuquito 5 (versão argentina do Ubuntu- excelente até o momento) , Epidemic e Metamorphose 3 - Lion , em KDE funcionando bem (principalmente a Lion) e com visual melhor que as outras... Gosto das Mint exceto da versão Debian e Xfce. As versões 10 - 32 e 64bits são mais estáveis, principalmente quando uso o notebook somente com a bateria. Em geral as versões 64 bits dão mais problemas que as 32bits, e tem programas que rodam somente em 32 bits. Pra quem está começando, sugiro iniciar com a versão 32 bits do Lxde para computadores antigos ou uma das belas KDE para um visual legal. Como o colega Frota disse: o Mint é uma ótima alternativa de distro linux. Em 2 semanas deveremos ter uma nova distro Ubuntu, a 11.10 Vamos compará-la com as demais... espero que seja melhor que a 11.04 Abraço aos colegas MGinity Em Tue, 27 Sep 2011 00:10:13 -0300, Ksatrya_Linux govabu...@gmail.com escreveu: Muito obrigado Frota pela sua mensagem Kshatrya Em 26 de setembro de 2011 23:46, Suporte supo...@apoio.eti.br escreveu: Olá! Sou programador, e desenvolvo em Delphi 2006 no XP ( ambos original ), porém tenho (ou tinha) o Ubuntu 11.04 tanto no notebook da minha esposa como no meu desktop, e meus sistemas são homologados para operar no Wine (desde a versão 2010) com performance e estabilidade suficientes para atender normalmente a demanda de meus clientes e por isso, gradativamente estou evangelizando os mesmos para substituir os XPiratex's pelo Linux. Porém, ha algumas semanas, em função de uma longa discussão aqui na lista a cerca do Ubuntu comecei a prestar a atenção e percebi tanto no meu computador como no da minha esposa e nos computadores de um cliente em que havia instalado o Ubuntu 11.04 que a Unity de fato estava muito instável e apresentando vários probleminhas inclusive travamento de programas, além disso tentei usar o live do 11.04 em uma máquina de um dos meus clientes para demonstrar o sistema e passei foi vergonha de tão lento e buguento que estava o Ubuntu após carregar. Atenção! Isso não é reclamação, pois não podemos esquecer que de graça até injeção na testa...rsrs. E como diz o ditado popular Os incomodados que se retirem, foi ai que comecei a pesquisar novamente as distros disponíveis, só não queria voltar para Mandriva pois sua evolução é muito lenta e bem pesadinho como o Suse. Após ler bastante descobri o Mint 11 que é primo ( ou prima melhor dizendo..rsrs) do Ubuntu e que é muito mais leve, sua iso não tem excessos (programas sem uso pra mim) e já vem com tudo prontinho para funcionar sem fazer vergonha e após instalar a moça no meu micro, processo este que não levou mais do que 20 minutos já com os pacotes de idioma que levou 12 minutos, o sistema estava funcionando 100%, navegando na net, tocando músicas, abrindo vídeos, rede e tudo mais (que no Ubuntu foi uma novela pra fazer funcionar), após a instalação, levou mais uns 15 minutos atualizando os demais pacotes ( que achei tranquilo contra os quase 60 minutos do Ubuntu 11.04 ), porém enquanto ele se atualizava,
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux MINT?
Frota, Só uma dica: Quando você pegar uma máquina mais lenta como esta que você citou, não perca a oportunidade de testar o Xubuntu, que ficou muito bom na última versão do Xfce. []s Ronan Em 26 de setembro de 2011 23:46, Suporte supo...@apoio.eti.br escreveu: Olá! Sou programador, e desenvolvo em Delphi 2006 no XP ( ambos original ), porém tenho (ou tinha) o Ubuntu 11.04 tanto no notebook da minha esposa como no meu desktop, e meus sistemas são homologados para operar no Wine (desde a versão 2010) com performance e estabilidade suficientes para atender normalmente a demanda de meus clientes e por isso, gradativamente estou evangelizando os mesmos para substituir os XPiratex's pelo Linux. Porém, ha algumas semanas, em função de uma longa discussão aqui na lista a cerca do Ubuntu comecei a prestar a atenção e percebi tanto no meu computador como no da minha esposa e nos computadores de um cliente em que havia instalado o Ubuntu 11.04 que a Unity de fato estava muito instável e apresentando vários probleminhas inclusive travamento de programas, além disso tentei usar o live do 11.04 em uma máquina de um dos meus clientes para demonstrar o sistema e passei foi vergonha de tão lento e buguento que estava o Ubuntu após carregar. Atenção! Isso não é reclamação, pois não podemos esquecer que de graça até injeção na testa...rsrs. E como diz o ditado popular Os incomodados que se retirem, foi ai que comecei a pesquisar novamente as distros disponíveis, só não queria voltar para Mandriva pois sua evolução é muito lenta e bem pesadinho como o Suse. Após ler bastante descobri o Mint 11 que é primo ( ou prima melhor dizendo..rsrs) do Ubuntu e que é muito mais leve, sua iso não tem excessos (programas sem uso pra mim) e já vem com tudo prontinho para funcionar sem fazer vergonha e após instalar a moça no meu micro, processo este que não levou mais do que 20 minutos já com os pacotes de idioma que levou 12 minutos, o sistema estava funcionando 100%, navegando na net, tocando músicas, abrindo vídeos, rede e tudo mais (que no Ubuntu foi uma novela pra fazer funcionar), após a instalação, levou mais uns 15 minutos atualizando os demais pacotes ( que achei tranquilo contra os quase 60 minutos do Ubuntu 11.04 ), porém enquanto ele se atualizava, eu explorava o novo sistema e percebi que ele é muito customizável, sua interface é leve e agradável, com o menu (Gnome 3) que lembra o primo rico porém facílimo de usar o que favorece a adaptação dos usuários do Window$ e também dispõe do recurso de localizar aplicativo digitando parte da palavra como a Unity, e o meu sistema via Wine funcionou muito mais rápido e a imagem ficou muito mais nítida (acho que em função do drive) e muito mais bonito (no meu gosto) pois optei pela fonte Droid é nativa do Mint. Tudo que eu usava no Ubuntu 11.04 funcionou no Mint, bem mais rápido e estável, especialmente o Lazarus, por isso sem pensar duas vezes instalei logo no note da minha esposa (que não questionou e ficou bem satisfeita) e hoje demonstrei o Mint 11 para um cliente como alternativa ao XPiratex que o técnico dele instalou com o Live e o cliente gostou e autorizou mandar o outro pro espaço e a sua esposa que usava um Win7 (pirata no lugar do Vista que veio no note) também gostou e pediu para instalar também no dela. Atualmente passo 70% do tempo no Linux, inclusive quando dou suporte remoto e espero um dia ver o Lazarus maduro o suficiente para poder migrar meu sistema para ambiente nativo Linux e poder aposentar meu XP. Conclusão: Espero ter contribuído com os que andam frustrados com o Ubuntu e com o colega que pediu informações sobre o Mint, aos 42 anos em vez de reclamar eu prefiro investir minhas energias na busca de soluções, não tenho apego demasiado a nada neste mundo, especialmente a um sistema operacional, tudo isso pra mim é trabalho, sempre procuro o que é melhor para mim e para meus clientes e no momento o Mint é sem dúvida a melhor alternativa. Abraço a todos. Frota. Em 26-09-2011 20:51, Ksatrya_Linux escreveu: Boa noite lista!!! Somente a título de curiosidade, há alguns meses andei ouvindo falar muito pela internet a respeito de uma distribuição nova baseada no nosso querido UBUNTU e que vem ganhando muitos admiradores mundo afora, o linux MINT, li bastante a respeito mas gostaria de saber se algum colega da lista já teve ou tem alguma experiência com esta distro. Alguém aqui acredita que ela pode superar o UBUNTU? -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/**comecehttp://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-brhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções:
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux MINT?
Eu baixei e instalei o Xfce4 e não quero outra vida! Sensacional Rápido, leve! Bonito, para meu gosto. Em 27 de setembro de 2011 08:52, Ronan Lucio ronanlu...@gmail.comescreveu: Frota, Só uma dica: Quando você pegar uma máquina mais lenta como esta que você citou, não perca a oportunidade de testar o Xubuntu, que ficou muito bom na última versão do Xfce. []s Ronan Em 26 de setembro de 2011 23:46, Suporte supo...@apoio.eti.br escreveu: Olá! Sou programador, e desenvolvo em Delphi 2006 no XP ( ambos original ), porém tenho (ou tinha) o Ubuntu 11.04 tanto no notebook da minha esposa como no meu desktop, e meus sistemas são homologados para operar no Wine (desde a versão 2010) com performance e estabilidade suficientes para atender normalmente a demanda de meus clientes e por isso, gradativamente estou evangelizando os mesmos para substituir os XPiratex's pelo Linux. Porém, ha algumas semanas, em função de uma longa discussão aqui na lista a cerca do Ubuntu comecei a prestar a atenção e percebi tanto no meu computador como no da minha esposa e nos computadores de um cliente em que havia instalado o Ubuntu 11.04 que a Unity de fato estava muito instável e apresentando vários probleminhas inclusive travamento de programas, além disso tentei usar o live do 11.04 em uma máquina de um dos meus clientes para demonstrar o sistema e passei foi vergonha de tão lento e buguento que estava o Ubuntu após carregar. Atenção! Isso não é reclamação, pois não podemos esquecer que de graça até injeção na testa...rsrs. E como diz o ditado popular Os incomodados que se retirem, foi ai que comecei a pesquisar novamente as distros disponíveis, só não queria voltar para Mandriva pois sua evolução é muito lenta e bem pesadinho como o Suse. Após ler bastante descobri o Mint 11 que é primo ( ou prima melhor dizendo..rsrs) do Ubuntu e que é muito mais leve, sua iso não tem excessos (programas sem uso pra mim) e já vem com tudo prontinho para funcionar sem fazer vergonha e após instalar a moça no meu micro, processo este que não levou mais do que 20 minutos já com os pacotes de idioma que levou 12 minutos, o sistema estava funcionando 100%, navegando na net, tocando músicas, abrindo vídeos, rede e tudo mais (que no Ubuntu foi uma novela pra fazer funcionar), após a instalação, levou mais uns 15 minutos atualizando os demais pacotes ( que achei tranquilo contra os quase 60 minutos do Ubuntu 11.04 ), porém enquanto ele se atualizava, eu explorava o novo sistema e percebi que ele é muito customizável, sua interface é leve e agradável, com o menu (Gnome 3) que lembra o primo rico porém facílimo de usar o que favorece a adaptação dos usuários do Window$ e também dispõe do recurso de localizar aplicativo digitando parte da palavra como a Unity, e o meu sistema via Wine funcionou muito mais rápido e a imagem ficou muito mais nítida (acho que em função do drive) e muito mais bonito (no meu gosto) pois optei pela fonte Droid é nativa do Mint. Tudo que eu usava no Ubuntu 11.04 funcionou no Mint, bem mais rápido e estável, especialmente o Lazarus, por isso sem pensar duas vezes instalei logo no note da minha esposa (que não questionou e ficou bem satisfeita) e hoje demonstrei o Mint 11 para um cliente como alternativa ao XPiratex que o técnico dele instalou com o Live e o cliente gostou e autorizou mandar o outro pro espaço e a sua esposa que usava um Win7 (pirata no lugar do Vista que veio no note) também gostou e pediu para instalar também no dela. Atualmente passo 70% do tempo no Linux, inclusive quando dou suporte remoto e espero um dia ver o Lazarus maduro o suficiente para poder migrar meu sistema para ambiente nativo Linux e poder aposentar meu XP. Conclusão: Espero ter contribuído com os que andam frustrados com o Ubuntu e com o colega que pediu informações sobre o Mint, aos 42 anos em vez de reclamar eu prefiro investir minhas energias na busca de soluções, não tenho apego demasiado a nada neste mundo, especialmente a um sistema operacional, tudo isso pra mim é trabalho, sempre procuro o que é melhor para mim e para meus clientes e no momento o Mint é sem dúvida a melhor alternativa. Abraço a todos. Frota. Em 26-09-2011 20:51, Ksatrya_Linux escreveu: Boa noite lista!!! Somente a título de curiosidade, há alguns meses andei ouvindo falar muito pela internet a respeito de uma distribuição nova baseada no nosso querido UBUNTU e que vem ganhando muitos admiradores mundo afora, o linux MINT, li bastante a respeito mas gostaria de saber se algum colega da lista já teve ou tem alguma experiência com esta distro. Alguém aqui acredita que ela pode superar o UBUNTU? -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/**comece http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux MINT?
Eu estou usando no trabalho e instalei no computador do meu irmão. O meu irmão gostou bastante. Estou gostando bastante, apesar de as vezes sentir falta das firulas do Ubuntu. Mas pelo menos o Xubuntu continua leve, ficou bonito, o dock dele é mais funcional do que o Unity (pelo menos até agora) e não é bugado. Em 27 de setembro de 2011 08:57, Renato Alvim renato.al...@gmail.comescreveu: Eu baixei e instalei o Xfce4 e não quero outra vida! Sensacional Rápido, leve! Bonito, para meu gosto. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux MINT?
Não sei se vocês sabem disso, mas o Mint é baseado no Ubuntu, só que o Ubuntu também é baseado no Debian, ou seja, um pelo outro, ambos são cópias do Debian que é o Pai de muitas distribuições. Tem hora que eu tenho raiva disso, deveriam todos criarem um padrão para que o Linux possa crescer. Linux é o Kernel. Gnome, Kde, Xfce, etc... são só a parte gráfica, isso não é Linux. A mudança principal no *Linux* dá-se apenas no Kernel, o resto, é só instalar pacotes e configurar. Você pode deixar o Ubuntu com a cara do Mint se você sair configurando. O povo todo que não sabe o que é Linux, baixa uma distribuição e diz, esse é melhor, esse faz isso e aquilo, bláblábláblá Mudança além de Kernel é somente de distribuição *BASE* Ou seja: Debian, Slackware, Suse, RedHat, Mandriva (não sei se esqueci de mais outra), o resto são somente cópias destas, alguns pacotes a mais ou a menos e configurações. A única distribuição que é cópia e está criando algo diferente da original é o Ubuntu com seu Unity. Quando digo original não me refiro a pirataria com a cópia, pois todos já sabem que é permitido copiar qualquer distribuição Linux. Mas é isso. Quando você for fazer uma certificação Linux vai entender e vai saber usar qualquer distribuição Linux, pois vai conhecer o que é distribuição e o que é o Linux. Aí, vai parar de ficar comentando, esse é melhor, esse faz isso e aquilo, esse tem isso, bláblábláblá... Sucesso a todos nas escolhas, tudo é igual mesmo. Em 26-09-2011 21:24, Flávio Barros escreveu: É uma excelente distro. Mas acho que cada macaco no seu galho. Vai do gosto e da necessidade de cada um. Por exemplo, sempre que viajo levo um live cd do Mint. Vai que o HD do notebook dá pau !! Pelo menos vou ter em um CD uma distro com codecs e etc. Abraços. Em 26 de setembro de 2011 19:51, Ksatrya_Linuxgovabu...@gmail.comescreveu: Boa noite lista!!! Somente a título de curiosidade, há alguns meses andei ouvindo falar muito pela internet a respeito de uma distribuição nova baseada no nosso querido UBUNTU e que vem ganhando muitos admiradores mundo afora, o linux MINT, li bastante a respeito mas gostaria de saber se algum colega da lista já teve ou tem alguma experiência com esta distro. Alguém aqui acredita que ela pode superar o UBUNTU? -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux MINT?
Valeu Ronan. Tenho um Pentium 4 jogado por aqui vou aproveitar pra testar o Xubuntu. Em 27-09-2011 08:52, Ronan Lucio escreveu: Frota, Só uma dica: Quando você pegar uma máquina mais lenta como esta que você citou, não perca a oportunidade de testar o Xubuntu, que ficou muito bom na última versão do Xfce. []s Ronan -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux MINT?
Cara, tenho dois nots, neste já estou usando o Ubuntu 11.10 ha mais de um mês, mesmo com alguns bugs, show, no veio instalei o Mint, ele é feito, ainda, em cima do Ubuntu 10, o que percebi é que ele é mais incorpado, com mais visual bacana, mais prático cheio de menuzinhos enfeitados coisa e tal, é um perfeito Ubuntu modificado, em termos de produtividade, ao meu ponto de vista é 10, mas de eficiencia perde um pouco por talvez ter sido feito em cima de outro (no caso o Ubuntu), mas acima de tudo é uma distro Linux o que pra mim já é suficiente, resumo da ópera, mais gostei do que não, até instalei no Desk do meu sogro, ultimamente testei muitas Distros, quase todas que consegui encontrar (Fedora, Mandriva, Absolute, Linuxmint e outras), conclusão, o Ubuntu esta simplesmente imbatível, hoje, amanhã não sei. É isso aí, abraços - mario Em 26-09-2011 20:51, Ksatrya_Linux escreveu: Boa noite lista!!! Somente a título de curiosidade, há alguns meses andei ouvindo falar muito pela internet a respeito de uma distribuição nova baseada no nosso querido UBUNTU e que vem ganhando muitos admiradores mundo afora, o linux MINT, li bastante a respeito mas gostaria de saber se algum colega da lista já teve ou tem alguma experiência com esta distro. Alguém aqui acredita que ela pode superar o UBUNTU? -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux MINT?
Frota, o meu irmão roda o Xubuntu num Pentium-4 com 512Mb de RAM. Roda legal... :-) Em 27 de setembro de 2011 09:44, Suporte supo...@apoio.eti.br escreveu: Valeu Ronan. Tenho um Pentium 4 jogado por aqui vou aproveitar pra testar o Xubuntu. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Xubuntu vs Ubuntu
Pessoal, Qual a diferença entre o Xubuntu e o Ubuntu, o que o primeiro tem a menos que o segundo, que o torna mais leve e rápido? Para quem ainda não sabe sou novato no Linux, estou usando há algumas semanas o Ubuntu 11.04 com interface 'classic-no effects' no desktop e a 11.10 Beta2 com Unity no notebook (confesso que estou gostando mais da interface classic). [ ]s Pedro Mac -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Xubuntu vs Ubuntu
Oi Pedro, A diferença é que o Xubuntu usa a interface gráfica xfce, o Ubuntu usa o Gnome, atualmente o Ubuntu também está usando o Unity. O resto é configurações (scripts, pacotes...). Aqui você vai ver por completo: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu Em 27-09-2011 11:18, Pedro Mac escreveu: Pessoal, Qual a diferença entre o Xubuntu e o Ubuntu, o que o primeiro tem a menos que o segundo, que o torna mais leve e rápido? Para quem ainda não sabe sou novato no Linux, estou usando há algumas semanas o Ubuntu 11.04 com interface 'classic-no effects' no desktop e a 11.10 Beta2 com Unity no notebook (confesso que estou gostando mais da interface classic). [ ]s Pedro Mac -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux MINT?
Bem... Como fui eu quem iniciou esta thread venho dar a minha 1ª observação do Mint 11 depois de ter instalado no meu Note para testá-lo... Realmente o bichinho é muito bonitinho, e encorpado e já com os plugins e codecs que necessitamos para rodar o mínimo , coisa que nem o Windows vem, mas me decepcionei com uma coisa, ele veio com o mesmo bug do ubuntu 11.04 em relação ao compiz, meu Deus o bicho além de não rodar eu perco todas as bordas das janelas, pelo menos no 11.04 existe uma maneira de resolver isto mas no mint não encontrei, como não sou xiita nem fanático vou continuar tentando e testando o Mint mas daí achar que ele é melhor que o Ubuntu, bem, é muito cedo pra dizer isto e olha que eu uso o Ubuntu desde o 6.06 depois de usar o Debian e Fedora por anos. O fato de o Unity ter bugs acredito que temos que dar tempo pra eles pois todo projeto de inovação leva uma ou duas versões para maturar e todos nós profissionais de TI sabemos disto e o que eu não acho que seja um motivo para largar e partir pra outra distro. Bem... Vida longa ao SL. Kshatrya Em 27 de setembro de 2011 11:09, Ronan Lucio ronanlu...@gmail.comescreveu: Frota, o meu irmão roda o Xubuntu num Pentium-4 com 512Mb de RAM. Roda legal... :-) Em 27 de setembro de 2011 09:44, Suporte supo...@apoio.eti.br escreveu: Valeu Ronan. Tenho um Pentium 4 jogado por aqui vou aproveitar pra testar o Xubuntu. -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Xubuntu vs Ubuntu
Robson, Ou seja, como vocẽ disse no outro e-mail, continua sendo o mesmo kernel, o Linux, certo?. Agora, a interface gráfica dele é tão prática quanto a do Ubuntu classic, e tem ferramentas semelhantes à 'Ubuntu Software Center' e 'Aditional Drivers', que tornam muito fácil a busca por aplicativos e drivers, ou tem que ir lá no Terminal fazer essas buscas e instalar 'na unha'? Fiz uma busca por screenshots do Xubuntu e encontrei uma interface que é a cara da Ubuntu Clssic 11.04 que eu estou usando, mas que no painel superior tem apenas Aplications e Places, no Ubuntu além desses tem também System. Isso é configurável ou uma característica do Xubuntu que não pode ser modificada? Estou perguntando isso porque queria um Linux mais enxuto no meu notebook, que na verdade é quase um netbook pois usa o E-350 da AMD. Como para mim a interface não precisa ser bonita, mas sim prática, funcional, e não pesar no processamento, talvez o Xubuntu me atenda melhor que o Ubuntu, não? [ ]s Pedro Mac On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 11:33 -0300, Robson - UbuntuListas wrote: Oi Pedro, A diferença é que o Xubuntu usa a interface gráfica xfce, o Ubuntu usa o Gnome, atualmente o Ubuntu também está usando o Unity. O resto é configurações (scripts, pacotes...). Aqui você vai ver por completo: http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu Em 27-09-2011 11:18, Pedro Mac escreveu: Pessoal, Qual a diferença entre o Xubuntu e o Ubuntu, o que o primeiro tem a menos que o segundo, que o torna mais leve e rápido? Para quem ainda não sabe sou novato no Linux, estou usando há algumas semanas o Ubuntu 11.04 com interface 'classic-no effects' no desktop e a 11.10 Beta2 com Unity no notebook (confesso que estou gostando mais da interface classic). [ ]s Pedro Mac -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Xubuntu vs Ubuntu
2011/9/27 Pedro Mac pedroma...@gmail.com: Ôlas Pedro Mac e demais. Estou perguntando isso porque queria um Linux mais enxuto no meu notebook, que na verdade é quase um netbook pois usa o E-350 da AMD. Como para mim a interface não precisa ser bonita, mas sim prática, funcional, e não pesar no processamento, talvez o Xubuntu me atenda melhor que o Ubuntu, não? Que legal. Aconteceu finalmente. O XFCE está pegando o lugar do Gnome. Agora para nós, o Gnome é o KDE em tamanho. Por isto é bom também prestar atenção no crescimento do LXDE. No mais é isto mesmo, GTK sem o Gnome e com um ambiente visualmente muito agradável :) PS: O KDE encolheu e evolui. [ ]s Pedro Mac -- []s -- Zandre. :: http://linuxacessivel.org :: http://zandrebran.blog.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Xubuntu vs Ubuntu
Pedro, A diferença é grande. É outro ambiente gráfico. Seria como você comparar o Windows XP ao Windows 7. Não em termos de melhor ou pior, mas de interfaces gráficas distintas, sobre uma mesma base. O Xubuntu utiliza Xfce, enquanto o Ubuntu utiliza Gnome e o Kubuntu utiliza KDE. O Xfce é mais leve que o Gnome e o KDE. E também existeo Lubuntu (Lxde) que é ainda mais leve que o Xfce. Além de ser ambientes gráficos diferentes, vários programas também são diferentes, por exemplo: O Xubuntu utiliza o Thunar como gerenciador de arquivos, enquanto o Ubuntu o Nautilus. Assim como o gerenciador de arquivos, vários outros programas mudam de uma interface gráfica para outra, como tocador de músicas, programa para pesquisar arquivos e etc. Alguns deles você poderá nem notar diferença, outros poderão fazer falta. Em muitos casos você poderá instalar e usar o mesmo programa que utilizada no Ubuntu, como eu instalei o Brasero para gravação de CD. De modo geral o Ubuntu é mais bem acabado e a integração com outros programas funciona melhor. Por exemplo, no Ubuntu você coloca um CD virgem no drive e ele já pergunta o que deseja fazer. A integração com o Nautilus também é muito boa. Você pode clicar com o botão direito do mouse em um arquivo, Envia para, e mandar para um contato do Empathy. Porém, o Ubuntu está com muitos bugs e lento, além da mudança radical das últimas versões. Tem quem goste. Mas para quem não gostou das últimas mudanças... O Xubuntu é mais leve e limpo. Gosto da proposta dele de unificar as duas barras (inferior e superior) e tem um Dock muito funcional. Não tem o mesmo padrão de integração com outros programas e firulas do Ubuntu, mas o conjunto funciona bem e não dá pau. []s Ronan Em 27 de setembro de 2011 11:18, Pedro Mac pedroma...@gmail.com escreveu: Pessoal, Qual a diferença entre o Xubuntu e o Ubuntu, o que o primeiro tem a menos que o segundo, que o torna mais leve e rápido? Para quem ainda não sabe sou novato no Linux, estou usando há algumas semanas o Ubuntu 11.04 com interface 'classic-no effects' no desktop e a 11.10 Beta2 com Unity no notebook (confesso que estou gostando mais da interface classic). [ ]s Pedro Mac -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Xubuntu vs Ubuntu
2011/9/27 Ronan Lucio ronanlu...@gmail.com: Ôlas Ronan e demais. [...] Não tem o mesmo padrão de integração com outros programas e firulas do Ubuntu, mas o conjunto funciona bem e não dá pau. Creio que esta é a questão. Este padrão está apenas para os pacotes padrões. Se quiser sair um pouco para out box a história não é bem assim. De qualquer forma você possui razão neste argumento, o Ubuntu faz um excelente trabalho neste sentido. É só ver o Thunderbird no 11-10 :) []s Ronan -- []s -- Zandre. :: http://linuxacessivel.org :: http://zandrebran.blog.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
[Ubuntu-BR] Realtek RTL8187B no Ubuntu 10.10
Quando instalei o ubuntu 10.10 minha wireless nao estava funcionando normalmente como no windows.Ela buscava as redes e conectava somente se a rede nao tive senha (criptografia) entao instalei o ndiswrapper com o drive do windows.Percebi q o alcance mudou ficou muito baixo, agora preciso me conectar à uma rede q esta longe, preciso instalar um drive do linux como eu faço? que nao seja do ubuntu 10.04 e nem do 10.10. Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:37:55 -0300 From: zandreb...@ubuntu.com To: ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Xubuntu vs Ubuntu 2011/9/27 Ronan Lucio ronanlu...@gmail.com: Ôlas Ronan e demais. [...] Não tem o mesmo padrão de integração com outros programas e firulas do Ubuntu, mas o conjunto funciona bem e não dá pau. Creio que esta é a questão. Este padrão está apenas para os pacotes padrões. Se quiser sair um pouco para out box a história não é bem assim. De qualquer forma você possui razão neste argumento, o Ubuntu faz um excelente trabalho neste sentido. É só ver o Thunderbird no 11-10 :) []s Ronan -- []s -- Zandre. :: http://linuxacessivel.org :: http://zandrebran.blog.br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Realtek RTL8187B no Ubuntu 10.10
Tentei seguir este tudo mas não consegui:
http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigo/Instalando-o-Ubuntu-Linux-8.04-(Hardy-heron)-no-MSI-Wind/?pagina=6gera
esse erro: {menino@menino:~/Área de
Trabalho/RTL8187B/Linux/rtl8187se_linux_26.1016.0716.2008$ sudo ./wlan0up
[sudo] password for menino: insmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt-rtl.ko': No
such file or directoryinsmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt_wep-rtl.ko': No such
file or directoryinsmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt_tkip-rtl.ko': No such file
or directoryinsmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt_ccmp-rtl.ko': No such file or
directoryinsmod: can't read 'ieee80211-rtl.ko': No such file or
directoryinsmod: can't read 'r8180.ko': No such file or directory}Bom, esse
tudo é para o 9.04 e eu uso 10.10 axo que algum diretoria teve sua localização
alterada na nova versão.Estou pesquisando mais. vlw
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Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Abrindo uma seção shell ( não consigo logar)
Boa noite Galera Coincidencia : Ja tive problemas no Ubuntu 8 e no 10 ao fazer logim usando a tecla enter do teclado numerico , até achei que tava digitando algo errado , mas o erro so surgia al usar a tecla enter do numerico Obs : apenas comentario . Abração ! Em 26/09/11, Ávila .genin...@gmail.com escreveu: vou testar se esse é o meu caso e depois posto. Obrigado Em 26 de setembro de 2011 14:59, Humberto Fraga xisbe...@gmail.comescreveu: Em 26 de setembro de 2011 14:35, Ávila . genin...@gmail.com escreveu: Loguei de novo agora usando o números abaixo das teclas de funções ( F1~F12) e logou normal, tanto meu usuário quanto o de minha filha. Então o problema foi encontrado está no teclado numérico. Mas ele está com problemas somente para o Shell o para seção gráfica funciona sem problemas. Há um meio de resolver isso? Às vezes falta uma sincronia com a luz indicadora do teclado e a configuração válida no computador. Cada sessão gráfica e cada shell texto tem sua própria configuração do teclado numérico. Na dúvida, pressionar o Num Lock algumas vezes resolve. -- Humberto Fraga http://lixaonerd.wordpress.com Sur la tuta tero estis unu lingvo kaj unu parlomaniero. - Gn 11,1 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Ávila (31)9325-6871 https://launchpad.net/~genin10 http://www.ubuntu-br.org/ A caixa dizia: 'Requer MS Windows ou superior', então eu instalei Debian/GNU Linux Ubuntu User #29645 Linux User #499959 -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br -- Adalberto A Malfatti F° (011) 6496-3438 / 7220-4345 http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net The Ubuntu Counter Project user number # 34245 Ubuntu 8.04.4 Web Desigin Telemensagens Kit p Telemensagens -- Mais sobre o Ubuntu em português: http://www.ubuntu-br.org/comece Lista de discussão Ubuntu Brasil Histórico, descadastramento e outras opções: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-br
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux MINT? Teste o ZORIN 5
Detestei o Ubuntu com Unity... Desunindo mesmo uma comunidade. O Mint, achei bem basicão. Feio e não tinha a velocidade que era tão falada. O que eu amei e com todo diferencial. (Até para o pessoal sair do Windows e migrar para Linux) foi o Zorin.O Zorin está muito bom. Produto bem acabado. Depois postem o que vocês acham. Pode colocar link aqui??? Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 03:48:15 -0700 From: gley...@ymail.com To: ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux MINT? Utilizo o Mint, desda Helena ( versão 8 ). Sou fã dele, exceto por uma má experiencia com a versão 10 baseada no Debian e LXDE. A pesar de ter me adaptado muito bem ao unity, hoje mantenho o Mint como minha Distro padrão tendo em vista estabilidade e desempenho. Passei pela mesma vergonha citada pelo Frota... Falar maravilhas do Ubuntu e na hora H o Unity brochar. Espero que até o lançamento do Ubuntu 11.10 OO melhore bastante. Tenho utilizado em um máquina de testes desda versão alpha e até agora foi só decepção. Já vi usuários experientes e apaixonados pelo Ubuntu confessarem com pesar sua tristeza com esta nova versão. Como ainda esta em estatus de beta... oremos! Gleyson Lira De: Marcus Mac-Ginity mgin...@gmail.com Para: Lista de discussão do LoCoTeam Brasileiro ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com Enviadas: Terça-feira, 27 de Setembro de 2011 0:59 Assunto: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Linux MINT? Bem, já que estamos falando de Mint, tenho o hobby de testar algumas distros e a Mint é a minha predileta... Venho testando as Mint desde as versões 9. Estamos na 11. Como alguns deste grupo já sabem, tenho várias distros instaladas em diferentes partições no mesmo hd de meu notebook e as uso diariamente e as atualizo pelo menos uma vez por semana (só pra ver o que acontece...!!) e tento encontrar uma versão que funcione tudo 100% ou o mais próximo disso (pois sempre tem algum problema com alguma delas!) Já testei muitas distros nos últimos 2 anos mas as que tenho instaladas e uso atualmente são a Mint 10 de 32 e a de 64 bits, a Mint 11 de 32 e de 64 bits, e também a Mint LXDE. Além das Mint tenho o Ubuntu 1104 32bits (cheio de problemas mesmo sem o Unity - que não gostei, além dos bugs). Também tenho para comparação: o Windows Vista e o Seven (que estão praticamente sem uso pois rodo quase tudo em Linux...). E finalmente umas distros bem simpáticas: Tuquito 5 (versão argentina do Ubuntu- excelente até o momento) , Epidemic e Metamorphose 3 - Lion , em KDE funcionando bem (principalmente a Lion) e com visual melhor que as outras... Gosto das Mint exceto da versão Debian e Xfce. As versões 10 - 32 e 64bits são mais estáveis, principalmente quando uso o notebook somente com a bateria. Em geral as versões 64 bits dão mais problemas que as 32bits, e tem programas que rodam somente em 32 bits. Pra quem está começando, sugiro iniciar com a versão 32 bits do Lxde para computadores antigos ou uma das belas KDE para um visual legal. Como o colega Frota disse: o Mint é uma ótima alternativa de distro linux. Em 2 semanas deveremos ter uma nova distro Ubuntu, a 11.10 Vamos compará-la com as demais... espero que seja melhor que a 11.04 Abraço aos colegas MGinity Em Tue, 27 Sep 2011 00:10:13 -0300, Ksatrya_Linux govabu...@gmail.com escreveu: Muito obrigado Frota pela sua mensagem Kshatrya Em 26 de setembro de 2011 23:46, Suporte supo...@apoio.eti.br escreveu: Olá! Sou programador, e desenvolvo em Delphi 2006 no XP ( ambos original ), porém tenho (ou tinha) o Ubuntu 11.04 tanto no notebook da minha esposa como no meu desktop, e meus sistemas são homologados para operar no Wine (desde a versão 2010) com performance e estabilidade suficientes para atender normalmente a demanda de meus clientes e por isso, gradativamente estou evangelizando os mesmos para substituir os XPiratex's pelo Linux. Porém, ha algumas semanas, em função de uma longa discussão aqui na lista a cerca do Ubuntu comecei a prestar a atenção e percebi tanto no meu computador como no da minha esposa e nos computadores de um cliente em que havia instalado o Ubuntu 11.04 que a Unity de fato estava muito instável e apresentando vários probleminhas inclusive travamento de programas, além disso tentei usar o live do 11.04 em uma máquina de um dos meus clientes para demonstrar o sistema e passei foi vergonha de tão lento e buguento que estava o Ubuntu após carregar. Atenção! Isso não é reclamação, pois não podemos esquecer que de graça até injeção na testa...rsrs. E como diz o ditado popular Os incomodados que se retirem, foi ai que comecei a pesquisar novamente as distros disponíveis, só não queria voltar para Mandriva pois sua evolução é muito lenta e bem pesadinho como o Suse. Após ler bastante descobri o Mint 11 que é primo ( ou prima melhor dizendo..rsrs) do Ubuntu e que é muito
Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Realtek RTL8187B no Ubuntu 10.10
No irc #ubuntu-br alguem me deu essa dica:
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man4/urtw.4freebsd.htmlmas não
conseguir, pois nao sei onde fica o arquivo de configuração do kernel, e nem o
loader.conf.alguem poderia me ajudar?
From: viny...@hotmail.com
To: ubuntu-br@lists.ubuntu.com
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 21:49:43 -0300
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-BR] Realtek RTL8187B no Ubuntu 10.10
Tentei seguir este tudo mas não consegui:
http://www.vivaolinux.com.br/artigo/Instalando-o-Ubuntu-Linux-8.04-(Hardy-heron)-no-MSI-Wind/?pagina=6gera
esse erro: {menino@menino:~/Área de
Trabalho/RTL8187B/Linux/rtl8187se_linux_26.1016.0716.2008$ sudo ./wlan0up
[sudo] password for menino: insmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt-rtl.ko': No
such file or directoryinsmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt_wep-rtl.ko': No
such file or directoryinsmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt_tkip-rtl.ko': No
such file or directoryinsmod: can't read 'ieee80211_crypt_ccmp-rtl.ko': No
such file or directoryinsmod: can't read 'ieee80211-rtl.ko': No such file or
directoryinsmod: can't read 'r8180.ko': No such file or directory}Bom, esse
tudo é para o 9.04 e eu uso 10.10 axo que algum diretoria teve sua
localização alterada na nova versão.Estou pesquisando mais. vlw
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[Ubuntu-be] Ubuntu Women competition for Ada Lovelace Day
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[Bug 860336] [NEW] mail-stack-delivery configuration broken
Public bug reported: Clean install of mail-stack-delivery - starts up OK during install however dovecot then fails to restart: doveconf: Warning: NOTE: You can get a new clean config file with: doveconf -n dovecot-new.conf doveconf: Warning: Obsolete setting in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/01-mail-stack-delivery.conf:2: protocols=managesieve has been renamed to protocols=sieve doveconf: Warning: Obsolete setting in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/01-mail-stack-delivery.conf:2: 'imaps' protocol is no longer necessary, remove it doveconf: Warning: Obsolete setting in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/01-mail-stack-delivery.conf:2: 'pop3s' protocol is no longer necessary, remove it doveconf: Warning: Obsolete setting in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/01-mail-stack-delivery.conf:5: ssl_cert_file has been replaced by ssl_cert = file doveconf: Warning: Obsolete setting in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/01-mail-stack-delivery.conf:6: ssl_key_file has been replaced by ssl_key = file doveconf: Warning: Obsolete setting in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/01-mail-stack-delivery.conf:14: imap_client_workarounds=outlook-idle is no longer necessary doveconf: Fatal: Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf: protocols: Unknown protocol: sieve ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10 Package: mail-stack-delivery 1:2.0.13-1ubuntu2 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-11.18-server 3.0.4 Uname: Linux 3.0.0-11-server x86_64 ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu1 Architecture: amd64 Date: Tue Sep 27 08:58:32 2011 PackageArchitecture: all ProcEnviron: LANGUAGE=en_GB: PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: dovecot UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) ** Affects: dovecot (Ubuntu) Importance: High Assignee: James Page (james-page) Status: In Progress ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug oneiric -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dovecot in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/860336 Title: mail-stack-delivery configuration broken To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dovecot/+bug/860336/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 860336] Re: mail-delivery-stack configuration broken
** Summary changed: - mail-delivery-stack configuration broken + mail-stack-delivery configuration broken ** Description changed: - Clean install of mail-delivery-stack - starts up OK during install + Clean install of mail-stack-delivery - starts up OK during install however dovecot then fails to restart: doveconf: Warning: NOTE: You can get a new clean config file with: doveconf -n dovecot-new.conf doveconf: Warning: Obsolete setting in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/01-mail-stack-delivery.conf:2: protocols=managesieve has been renamed to protocols=sieve doveconf: Warning: Obsolete setting in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/01-mail-stack-delivery.conf:2: 'imaps' protocol is no longer necessary, remove it doveconf: Warning: Obsolete setting in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/01-mail-stack-delivery.conf:2: 'pop3s' protocol is no longer necessary, remove it doveconf: Warning: Obsolete setting in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/01-mail-stack-delivery.conf:5: ssl_cert_file has been replaced by ssl_cert = file doveconf: Warning: Obsolete setting in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/01-mail-stack-delivery.conf:6: ssl_key_file has been replaced by ssl_key = file doveconf: Warning: Obsolete setting in /etc/dovecot/conf.d/01-mail-stack-delivery.conf:14: imap_client_workarounds=outlook-idle is no longer necessary doveconf: Fatal: Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf: protocols: Unknown protocol: sieve ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10 Package: mail-stack-delivery 1:2.0.13-1ubuntu2 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-11.18-server 3.0.4 Uname: Linux 3.0.0-11-server x86_64 ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu1 Architecture: amd64 Date: Tue Sep 27 08:58:32 2011 PackageArchitecture: all ProcEnviron: - LANGUAGE=en_GB: - PATH=(custom, no user) - LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 - SHELL=/bin/bash + LANGUAGE=en_GB: + PATH=(custom, no user) + LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 + SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: dovecot UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dovecot in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/860336 Title: mail-stack-delivery configuration broken To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dovecot/+bug/860336/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 860336] Re: mail-stack-delivery configuration broken
** Changed in: dovecot (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = James Page (james-page) ** Changed in: dovecot (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = High ** Changed in: dovecot (Ubuntu) Status: New = In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to dovecot in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/860336 Title: mail-stack-delivery configuration broken To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dovecot/+bug/860336/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 827705] Re: PXE boot requests non-standard config filename
@Tobin, can you add a comment why the u-boot ubuntu package is Invalid - did this package not suffer from this bug? Thanks. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/827705 Title: PXE boot requests non-standard config filename To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/u-boot/+bug/827705/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 840386] Re: Update munin to bugfix release 1.4.6
Hi Daniel Thanks for taking the time to prepare a revised debdiff for this upgrade. Looking at the debdiff and reviewing Jamie previous comments I have the following feedback: 1) debian/munin-node.postinst is modified in the debdiff but not mentioned in the merge changelog entry; I assume that this is something todo with the upstart conversion but this should be documented for future merges. 2) debian/changelog - some of the changelog comments for Fixes have got muddled with the Merge comment - makes it a little difficult to read; please could you also annotate the entry for upstream_bug_832.patch including the LP bug report? Great job on tagging the patches - I reviewed and they all appear to make sense to me. Ditto Jamie's comment re submission back to Debian if they have not been submitted already. Cheers James -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to munin in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/840386 Title: Update munin to bugfix release 1.4.6 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/munin/+bug/840386/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 860545] [NEW] package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 1
Public bug reported: Nothing happened when it displayed the error message... and so far still working very well ProblemType: Package DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-11.50-generic 2.6.38.8 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-11-generic i686 Architecture: i386 Date: Tue Sep 27 09:44:09 2011 ErrorMessage: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 1 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal - Release i386 (20110427.1) RelatedPackageVersions: nautilus 1:2.32.2.2-0ubuntu3~ppa170 gvfs 1.8.0-0ubuntu3 SambaClientRegression: Yes SourcePackage: samba Title: package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 1 UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) ** Affects: samba (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-package i386 natty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/860545 Title: package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: sub- processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/860545/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 860545] Re: package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 1
-- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/860545 Title: package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.3 failed to install/upgrade: sub- processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/860545/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 854946] Re: [SRU] Rampart's configuration on Ubuntu's package doesn't define a default ClockSkewBuffer
Hello. Just to inform that since yesterday after when I updated to the latest version available on natty-proposed the servers are running good, and have shown no symptoms of messages from the future being discarded (verified through the absence of the error logs I was seeing in /var/log/eucalytus/axis2c.log). Thanks for all the support and promptitude on dealing with this issue! Bruno -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to eucalyptus in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/854946 Title: [SRU] Rampart's configuration on Ubuntu's package doesn't define a default ClockSkewBuffer To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/eucalyptus/+bug/854946/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 856530] Re: nova user should not be in the nogroup group
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-server-dev/nova/diablo -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to nova in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/856530 Title: nova user should not be in the nogroup group To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/856530/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 839796] Re: nova-manage complains about missing nova-compute.conf
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-server-dev/nova/diablo -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to nova in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/839796 Title: nova-manage complains about missing nova-compute.conf To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/839796/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 570513] Re: NIS-based autofs maps don't load on startup
This is a patch a applied to /etc/init/autofs.conf to make the autofs upstart job wait for NIS. The loop was inspired by the same loop in /etc/init.d/nis. ** Patch added: Patch to /etc/init/autofs.conf waiting for NIS https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs5/+bug/570513/+attachment/2469380/+files/autofs.conf.patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to autofs5 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/570513 Title: NIS-based autofs maps don't load on startup To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs5/+bug/570513/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 860629] Re: package postfix (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
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[Bug 860629] Re: package postfix (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
thank you -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to postfix in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/860629 Title: package postfix (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postfix/+bug/860629/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 857746] Re: Drop capabilities bit in emulated e1000
Here's a backport for lucid. I've tested that this correctly disables the capabilities bit on a fresh lucid install. ** Patch added: lucid backport https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/857746/+attachment/2469608/+files/e1000-Dont-set-the-Capabilities-List-bit.patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/857746 Title: Drop capabilities bit in emulated e1000 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/857746/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 860629] [NEW] package postfix (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
Public bug reported: detected automatically ProblemType: Package DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: postfix (not installed) ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic 2.6.38.2 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-8-generic i686 AptOrdering: postfix: Install postfix: Configure Architecture: i386 Date: Sun Sep 25 19:59:37 2011 DpkgTerminalLog: Unpacking postfix (from .../postfix_2.8.2-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb) ... debconf: DbDriver _ENV_FALLBACK: could not open /work/t/debconf/postfix.dat dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/postfix_2.8.2-1ubuntu2.1_i386.deb (--unpack): subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 ErrorMessage: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal - Release i386 (20110426) SourcePackage: postfix Title: package postfix (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) ** Affects: postfix (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-package i386 natty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to postfix in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/860629 Title: package postfix (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postfix/+bug/860629/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 860655] [NEW] Link to COPYRIGHT file is broken
Public bug reported: When I click on the link for the Copyright file I get the message, The requested URL /changelogs/pool/main/l/logwatch/logwatch_7.3.6.cvs20090906-1ubuntu4/logwatch.copyright was not found on this server.. Please advise. ** Affects: logwatch (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to logwatch in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/860655 Title: Link to COPYRIGHT file is broken To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/logwatch/+bug/860655/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 860652] Re: glance post-installation script failed, Syntax error: fi unexpected
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 857021 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/857021 sorry, this is dupe of bug 857021. ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 857021 glance (2011.3-0ubuntu1) fails to install, error in .postinst -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to glance in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/860652 Title: glance post-installation script failed, Syntax error: fi unexpected To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glance/+bug/860652/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 857746] Re: Drop capabilities bit in emulated e1000
I've also verified that the above fix passes the PCIHCT test that was previously failing on Lucid (and Oneiric). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/857746 Title: Drop capabilities bit in emulated e1000 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/857746/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 857746] Re: Drop capabilities bit in emulated e1000
** Patch added: lspci output verifying fix for lucid https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/857746/+attachment/2469727/+files/lspci_-H1_-vvv.lucid.diff -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to qemu-kvm in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/857746 Title: Drop capabilities bit in emulated e1000 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qemu-kvm/+bug/857746/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 845788] Re: update_image in glance.client doesn't add content-length so the swift backend can't chunk
Yep, Thierry noticed this this morning. Sorry about that :( -jay ** Changed in: glance Status: Fix Released = Fix Committed ** Changed in: glance Milestone: 2011.3 = essex-1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to glance in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/845788 Title: update_image in glance.client doesn't add content-length so the swift backend can't chunk To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/glance/+bug/845788/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 570513] Re: NIS-based autofs maps don't load on startup
The attachment Patch to /etc/init/autofs.conf waiting for NIS of this bug report has been identified as being a patch. The ubuntu-reviewers team has been subscribed to the bug report so that they can review the patch. In the event that this is in fact not a patch you can resolve this situation by removing the tag 'patch' from the bug report and editing the attachment so that it is not flagged as a patch. Additionally, if you are member of the ubuntu-sponsors please also unsubscribe the team from this bug report. [This is an automated message performed by a Launchpad user owned by Brian Murray. Please contact him regarding any issues with the action taken in this bug report.] ** Tags added: patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to autofs5 in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/570513 Title: NIS-based autofs maps don't load on startup To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs5/+bug/570513/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 827590] Re: cloud-init does not mount ephemeral0 on /mnt in nova
** Changed in: nova (Ubuntu Oneiric) Status: Triaged = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to nova in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/827590 Title: cloud-init does not mount ephemeral0 on /mnt in nova To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/827590/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 860716] [NEW] armel cloud-images fail to startup fully with nova-compute on armel
Public bug reported: Tested with beta1 and beta2 armel cloud images. ARM pandaboard running nova-compute/nova-network/nova-compute-lxc x86 server running nova-api/-scheduler/rabbit/mysql etc.. Console log from instance --- loud-init start-local running: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:20:05 +. up 3428.05 seconds no instance data found in start-local ci-info: lo: 1 127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0 ci-info: eth0 : 1 10.0.0.3255.255.255.240 02:16:3e:17:53:e1 ci-info: route-0: 0.0.0.0 10.0.0.10.0.0.0 eth0 UG ci-info: route-1: 10.0.0.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.240 eth0 U cloud-init start running: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:20:07 +. up 3429.66 seconds no instance data found in start mountall: Event failed * Mounting securityfs on /sys/kernel/security... /sbin/apparmor_parser: Unable to replace /usr/sbin/tcpdump. Permission denied; attempted to load a profile while confined? /sbin/apparmor_parser: Unable to replace /sbin/dhclient. Permission denied; attempted to load a profile while confined? [fail] Checking for running unattended-upgrades: landscape-client is not configured, please run landscape-config. Ubuntu oneiric (development branch) ubuntu tty1 ubuntu login: ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.10 Package: nova-compute-lxc 2011.3-0ubuntu2 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.0.0-1204.9-omap4 3.0.3 Uname: Linux 3.0.0-1204-omap4 armv7l ApportVersion: 1.23-0ubuntu1 Architecture: armel Date: Tue Sep 27 17:29:51 2011 NovaConf: Error: [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/etc/nova/nova.conf' PackageArchitecture: all SourcePackage: nova UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) ** Affects: nova (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug armel oneiric -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to nova in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/860716 Title: armel cloud-images fail to startup fully with nova-compute on armel To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/860716/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 860716] Re: armel cloud-images fail to startup fully
** Summary changed: - armel cloud-images fail to startup fully + armel cloud-images fail to startup fully with nova-compute on armel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to nova in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/860716 Title: armel cloud-images fail to startup fully with nova-compute on armel To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nova/+bug/860716/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 839796] Re: nova-manage complains about missing nova-compute.conf
** Branch linked: lp:~gandelman-a/nova/openstack-ubuntu-packagers -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to nova in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/839796 Title: nova-manage complains about missing nova-compute.conf To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/839796/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
Re: [Bug 529714] Re: rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in _nss_wins_gethostbyname_r()
Did contact the ubuntu one support because in my synaptic the rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store package had disappeared. Seems like the current plan for oneiric ozelot is to replace rhythmbox with banshee. Will try to install banshee this evening. Looking at the extensions available for this package it might be a powerful rhythmbox replacement. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/529714 Title: rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in _nss_wins_gethostbyname_r() To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/samba/+bug/529714/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 854614] Re: metadata service local-hostname is not fqdn
fix-commited see comment 3. ** Changed in: nova Status: In Progress = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to nova in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/854614 Title: metadata service local-hostname is not fqdn To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/854614/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 830154] Re: Login timed out after 60 seconds after winbind install
I also now see this behavior on Ubuntu 10.04.3 64-bt. I have had this machine up since April, 2010 with no issues until about the last 2 weeks or so. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/830154 Title: Login timed out after 60 seconds after winbind install To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/830154/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
[Bug 830154] Re: Login timed out after 60 seconds after winbind install
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: samba (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/830154 Title: Login timed out after 60 seconds after winbind install To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/830154/+subscriptions -- Ubuntu-server-bugs mailing list Ubuntu-server-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-server-bugs
