Re: Tracking delta between i386 and LPIA arches
* Steve Magoun | We (the folks working on Ubuntu Mobile) would like to make sure this | doesn't happen in the future; is there a good way for us to track the | delta between i386 and LPIA? I found http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | but that doesn't give a concise diff of the two architectures. http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/testing-ports/hardy_outdate.txt has an overview of out-of-date packages for main. The format is slightly unreadable, which is unfortunate. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Daily images moved; hardy daily builds now available
Hi all, we now produce hardy dailies as well as gutsy ones. The hardy images are available from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/hardy/ The gutsy dailies are now moved to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/gutsy/ -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: UME X startup from upstart in /etc/event.d/session fails unless this patch...
* Peter Antoniac | It didn't hit :) so it might be a bug. But even if it is a bug, the problem | still remains: you have allowed_users=anybody into the Xwrapper.config. If | you use my patch for the /etc/event.d/session then you we don't need to open | this security hole in Xwrapper.config... Why do you believe this is a security hole? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: UME X startup from upstart in /etc/event.d/session fails unless this patch...
* Peter Antoniac | On Wednesday 19 December 2007 16:04:34 Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > Is there any particular reason why you don't seem to be using | > ume-config-common? | | I am using that. But that has nothing to do with what I said. The | problem is when you install the UME on a real device. Probably you | are talking about running X with ume-xephyr-start? : [EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp/ume-config-common-0.7 > tail -n 6 debian/postinst # Ew if [ -f /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config ]; then sed -i -e 's/allowed_users=.*/allowed_users=anybody/' /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config fi #DEBHELPER# : [EMAIL PROTECTED] /tmp/ume-config-common-0.7 > So if that doesn't hit, for some reason, you've found a bug. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: UME X startup from upstart in /etc/event.d/session fails unless this patch...
* Peter Antoniac | I don't know if anybody had noticed, but there are some issues with the | event.d scripts that are supposed to start the X on UME. | | The problem is that unless you change the /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config | there is no way the X is going to start on the machine. This is | because the way it comes configured is with | allowed_users=console. [...] Is there any particular reason why you don't seem to be using ume-config-common? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Port of Liferea to MID now on launchpad
* "Ian Lawrence" | I have created a launchpad project for the Liferea port to MID: | https://edge.launchpad.net/frothing | | Download URL: | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/frothing/trunk | | It should not be much more work to hack it to look like | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/RSSReaderUI Interesting and thanks for starting this. Are you in touch with upstream about the hildon port, and what have their reaction been so far? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Status report 2007-11-08 → 2007-11-15
== Mobile build infrastructure == Working on fixing up support for using the ubuntu-mobile PPA in addition to the regular sources. This is working in my private builds now, I'll make sure to test those before deploying new daily builds. No progress on getting hardy builds set up yet, this is on the list for next week. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: [Fwd: hildon-control-panel in trunk]
* Matt Zimmerman | Do we need to adjust the imports in Launchpad to account for this, or is | this the branch we're already importing? We are already importing from this branch, but I believe LP needs a slight poke to start importing from another branch. Michael: the hildon-control-panel branch in SVN has moved from a branch to trunk. We are currently importing the branch, so I was wondering if we can just change the URL in LP and it will work correctly, or if we need to poke you to do some of your magic tricks. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Image issues
* GrueMaster | The bigger question is, should the lpia and lpiacompat configurations be | combined? No, they use different versions of drm.ko which are not compatible. I suspect this will be fixed sometime during the hardy cycle, Amit might know more. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Status report for 2007-10-17 → 2007-10-24
Mobile build infrastructure: No progress. Publishing of proprietary builds is blocked on IS (ticket filed). Gutsy + updates is also blocked, pending IS to set up lpia PPAs. Other news: Pre-alpha was released on Monday: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/Pre-Alpha for more information. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Moblin-applets
* Johan Bilien [...] | statusbar.conf lists the currently used statusbar plugins while | /usr/share/applications/hildon-status-bar lists the available plugins. Can we do that using /etc/hildon-desktop/statusbar.d and enable and disable plugins using symlinks (to the plugins in /usr/share/applications/hildon-status-bar)? | In maemo we have a UI to let the user select which plugins she wants to | use. Same thing for all the containers defined in desktop.conf. We'll probably want the same UI. Does it have a name of any kind (and is it free)? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Suggested Platform
* Kevin Fries | Intel support has be a little nervous about another Intel based | solution, is the UME supported on any AMD based boards/devices? AMD is | much better about supporting Linux than Intel, and if I am going to put | boxes on shelves, my experience with Intel's support services regarding | the LV board, has me questioning the company's true commitment to Linux. While I can't speak for Intel in any way, I can at least try to answer the rest of the mail. AMD based boards might work just fine as long as they are x86 compatible and we can add necessary kernel drivers if the current drivers we have isn't sufficient. I don't have a specific board or chipset to recommend apart from our official targets which are the McCaslin and Menlow based boards. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Moblin-applets
* "Brandt, Todd E" | I would gladly make the change to the hildon-desktop code to pull in a | statusbar.d directory, however I'm not sure the owner would agree to | accept it and it may take a while to push upstream. I can take the AR to | ping the maemo folks about it though. If you could do that, that'd be very helpful. | As for the sudoers issue, there are currently three "applications" that | need to be granted root access to be run by ume: network-admin and | time-admin from the gnome-system-tools package, and moblin-touchscreen | which edits the xorg conf file. All three are executed by a call to | g_spawn_async with gksu as the command and the argument as one of the | aforementioned three apps. Can we get the last to use input hotplug in Xorg 7.3 so we don't have to edit xorg.conf? | I'm just hesitant to create some sort of moblin-applets root settings | daemon which will require intimate knowledge of packages we don't | control (gnome-system-tools for instance). Well, what we are talking about is just separating out the already-existing infrastructure which edits those files into a daemon and putting a dbus interface on top of that daemon. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Moblin-applets
* "Spencer, Bob" | Tollef Fog Heen wrote: [...] | > The usual way would be to make hildon-desktop have a statusbar.d with | > configuration file fragments it assembles. | > | > [...] | | All of the statusbar plugins already have .desktop files in | /usr/share/applications/hildon-desktop/statusbar . The file | /etc/hildon-desktop/statusbar.conf seems mostly useful for dictating the | order. Perhaps they could add an entry for [*] to get anything not | explicitely listed, then we wouldn't need to edit hildon-desktop when we | add a new statusbar plugin. Ordering can be accomplished by numbering the .conf files. | We have similar problems with the other configuration files, such as | marquee.conf. The /etc/hildon-desktop/desktop.conf file references | "marquee.conf" and marquee.conf is part of hildon-desktop, but its | contents are controled by a separate package. If we want to change the | layout we have to change hildon-desktop. This sounds like something we should get fixed, agreed. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Ken: Theme conversation today
* "Zhu, Peter J" | Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > * Matt Zimmerman | > | >> Is there an update already in progress? | > | > Yes, right now. | | Does it mean you are uploading hildon-theme-ume-basic to gutsy? No, it means I'm uploading a new ubuntu-meta which makes ubuntu-mobile depend on moblin-media so it automatically gets pulled in when you install the mobile fset. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Moblin-applets
* Matthew Garrett | There's a couple of issues with moblin-applets that I'd prefer to | discuss before getting it into the archive. The first of these is the | modification of the hildon-desktop statusbar config. Shipping a copy in | hildon-desktop and then modifying it in the moblin-applets postinst | would result in a conflict every time the file changes in the | hildon-desktop package. Diversions work badly with conffiles, so I'd be | interested in opinions on how to handle this situation. The usual way would be to make hildon-desktop have a statusbar.d with configuration file fragments it assembles. [...] | A better solution would involve separation of privileges, with the | privileged operations being carried out by a suid backend with careful | validation of all input. However, I appreciate that implementing this | before gutsy is probably unrealistic. What do other people think? Agreed on both counts. Would it be possible to make it use gksu and not modify sudoers, for now? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Ken: Theme conversation today
* Matt Zimmerman | Is there an update already in progress? Yes, right now. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Status report, week 41
Mobile build infrastructure: We now have the ability to provide builds which contains bits which are not in the archive, which then makes it possible for us to provide builds with the Adobe flash player, etc. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Can I request a libtelepathy update to 0.0.57
* "Zhu, Peter J" | Is there any possible to request a package update for libtelepathy to | 0.0.57 from current 0.0.55. I need some new interfaces and signals from | new version. There might be some process involved. Please let me know. libtelepathy is universe, though. It's awfully late for it now, but if you can foolow the procedure on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess, we might be able to get it done. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
IRC meeting tomorrow 2007-10-10 at 1600 UTC
Hi, we'll be having the IRC meeting on #ubuntu-mobile, as usual, tomorrow. Please make sure to post status reports to this list before 1400 UTC, and if you have agenda items, please add them to the list on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/Meeting . -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: [Bug 147792] Re: UME: psb.ko module missing from lpia kernels.
* "Johnson, Charles F" | 1. Boot single user and copy /etc/X11/xorg-crownbeach.conf over | /etc/X11/xorg.conf You shouldn't be needing this. | 2. To avoid loading the wrong drm.ko, go to | /lib/modules/2.6.22-13-lpia/kernel/drivers/char/drm |and remove drm.ko and i915.ko Correct, a bug for this has been filed some time ago, see https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/145168 | 3. Also you still have to install the flashplugin-nonfree from | single user mode before you can start the UI. This is, as Matthew Garrett says, not going to change. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Ubuntu - any flavor - running on Little Valley
* Kevin Fries | I tried to set up a system using an Intel Little Valley board, with | horrid results -- Apparently there is an issue with the SIS662 video | that causes the display to be unusable over 6x8, and even then, | stressing the system causes video problems. I have yet to stress the | system enough to cause video problems at 640x480, but that is way small | for our needs. Assuming you're using the lpia flavour, mesa is not enabled there now (by an oversight) so you will not be seeing accelerated 3D at all. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: lpia and lpiacompat flavours
* "Lynch, Rusty" | What I saw was that the initial ramdisk was not adding either the | squashfs or the unionfs modules (that exist in the target filesystem), | resulting in the initramfs dropping to a shell. Can anyone think of a | reason why the initramfs tools would overlook these modules? Did you include the corresponding linux-ubuntu-modules for the kernel? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: psb.ko module
* Ben Collins | I think the best way to overcome this is to have a set kernel | development schedule for the release, with relative dates bound by | milestones, freezes, and other dates on the main release schedule. I | think keeping the projects informed about what they can expect from the | kernel, and how they need to interact with the kernel team for their | schedules, would benefit all. Another option would be to have faster-moving targets such as the UME port build-depend on linux-source-2.6.22 and then we can do uploads at our own leisure. This requires a bit more manpower, but would make it harder for us to end up being blocked in the way we've been recently. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Status report for 2007-09-27 -> 2007-10-04
# Build infrastructure Worked on fixing the infrastructure so we can have non-public images with proprietary bits in them. # Mobile development environment Handed this off to Steve Kowalik -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Moblin and Gnome
* "Spencer, Bob" | Lastly, perhaps we could agree on some standards for branching existing | projects. For example #ifdef , for code, Makefile.am, | configure.in, etc. Then we could easily go to a project and find | where/if someone else had added mobile-device-specific changes. | | = MID or UME or HILDON or MOBILE | (My vote is "MID") In the style of autoconf, I suggest we use #ifdef USE_HILDON -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
IRC meeting reminder, 2007-10-04, 1600 UTC
Hi, we'll be having the IRC meeting on #ubuntu-mobile, as usual, tomorrow. Please make sure to post status reports to this list before 1400 UTC, and if you have agenda items, please add them to the list on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/Meeting . -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: psb.ko module
* Ben Collins | On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 15:29 -0700, Matt Zimmerman wrote: | > On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 11:11:27PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: | > > On Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 12:00:11PM -0700, Johnson, Charles F wrote: | > > > Did the upload, where the missing psb.ko module was included in the lpia | > > > kernel, occur ?? | > > | > > No, it's still only in git. The best group to contact about this would | > > be the Ubuntu kernel team. | > | > Escalating to Ben, as this bug was reported 5 days ago and is a severe | > blocker for mobile builds. | > | > https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22/+bug/147792 | | We planned an upload for Friday, but that was delayed over till today. It's quite important that when this happens, you tell us so we can communicate this to Intel and the mobile list. [...] | Perhaps Amit can get you a build of the flavor you need, that can be | wedged into the mobile build for immediate testing. Would this get | things going until the upload? We have an explicit policy of having the daily images be built from the archive and nothing else, I would not want this to change. Also, the problem here isn't that I can't work around psb.ko being broken, but rather that the dailies have been broken for quite a while due to the kernel being uploaded too seldomly. At UDS, I'd like us to discuss how we can prevent this problem in the future. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Status report 2007-09-27
Hi all, I've mainly worked on fixing LPIA support for the dailies last week, so we now have that. No progress on the development environment spec. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Meeting reminder, 2007-09-27 1600 UTC
Hi, we'll be having the IRC meeting on #ubuntu-mobile, as usual, tomorrow. Please make sure to post status reports to this list before 1400 UTC, and if you have agenda items, please add them to the list on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/Meeting . -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Current dailies
Hi, I spent some time today trying to fix the dailies, unsuccessfully. The mccaslin ones seem to build fine (I haven't actually tested them yet), but the menlow ones fall over. I'll spend some more time on Monday trying to fix the problem. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: UME theme and related tools
* "Zhu, Peter J" | BTW, how to let apt-get select gutsy package in first priority even its | version is lower than other release? that's described in apt_preferences(5) | | BTW, I suggest renaming sdk-default-icons pacakge to ume-default-icons | and modify it to put icons in /usr/share/icons/ume, your idea? This sounds fine to me, or get rid of it, if the icons are going to be in the normal theme package? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Moblin Image Creator status
* "Spencer, Bob" | I didn't see my change for moblin-calc. Is that in there? No, it is intentionally not, as per the commit log: commit bad2b096b3a6fa0fbc68dae4063db04f3a2b6f43 Author: Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed Sep 19 15:24:26 2007 +0200 Partially revert previous commit, as there is no moblin-calc in Ubuntu commit 1570041482cc1bf382d4298b83598380168088a9 Merge: ea8c084... 999dd03... Author: John L. Villalovos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue Sep 18 16:13:46 2007 -0700 * Changed galculator to moblin-calc * Killing USB selection dialog for progress bar shows up in the front What is the reasoning for having moblin-calc instead of just hildonising galculator on lpia? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: UME theme and related tools
* "Zhu, Peter J" | [...] And from some review info, cacher is only used to improve | performance. If anybody here know more about cacher, let us know. If | nobody can provide appropriate info, I suggest removing this | dependency. hildon-theme-plankton had the hildon-theme-cacher dependency removed in Matt Zimmerman's upload on June 12th. Could you provide me with the output of «apt-cache policy hildon-theme-cacher» from your system? [...] | Questions comes, why make a copy from icon theme to applicaton theme? No idea. | And hildon-desktop code has some references to icons that are in | /usr/share/themes/mobile-basic/images. But that's strange and not comply | with standards. I suggest moving them to /usr/share/icons/hildon/, idea? | I might have to figure out why hildon-desktop can find them. Sounds like a plan. | 2. Who knows how to set background on the fly in current hildon-desktop? | Currently, the background pic and accompanying desktop file are stored | in /usr/share/background. But I don't know how to set it on the fly. There's a dbus method for it and I believe hildon-desktop knows how to, so you could grep through the source there. [...] | 4. How to set icon theme and application theme on the fly in current | hildon desktop? In the normal desktop, gnome-settings-daemon is responsible for applying the settings, so you could take a look at exactly how it is doing it? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Creating system seeds.
* "Alexander Trauzzi" [...] | Upon completing the process, my system obtains and/or cross-compiles | everything needed into an image that can then be used to install or copy | directly for the system to boot off of (depending on platform). | (Maybe in cases of PDAs or more peculiar booting situations, it could | eventually have the capacity to deploy as well?) As you note, this is more of a «classical embedded» environment than our initial mobile target. While I don't want to dismiss your ideas, we don't currently have the manpower to work on solving all the interesting challenges that exist in the embedded space. If you want to help out by hacking on that: Great, and we'll give you what support we can. However, we can't currently allocate resources to work on this ourselves. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: UME menlow_full Daily Breakage Update?
* Colin Watson | On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 08:51:01AM -0700, Charles Johnson wrote: | > I'm seeing no difference in the 20070919 menlow_full daily build. | > Did the kernel update occur ? | | http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/moblin-build-logs/gutsy/menlow_full/ | indicates that the daily builds aren't happening. Tollef would be the | best person to chase that down. They accidentially got disabled; I have reenabled them now and done a manual run (which is going just now). -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Status update, 2007-09-13 -> 2007-09-20
I was sick for two days this week, so not too much happened. Status for my specs: - mobile-build-infrastructure New moblin-image-creator with the ability to specify architecture was uploaded. I'm waiting on a fixed unionfs to test this properly before switching the daily builds over to lpia. - mobile-maemo-packaging-cleanup Ongoing effort - mobile-development-environment No progress -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Meeting reminder, Sept 13th @ 1600 UTC
* Tollef Fog Heen | Please send status updates for all specs to this list before 1400 | UTC. Ok, I failed to sent it in time myself, but here goes: - Build infrastructure: No changes, working on neccessary bits LPIA to be put into the archive, but not done yet. - Mobile-development-environment: Discussions about how to approach this and how much should be code and how much should be docs. Nothing solid yet. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Meeting reminder, Sept 13th @ 1600 UTC
Hi, just your regular reminder that we're having a meeting tomorrow, Thursday at 1600 UTC as usual. Please send status updates for all specs to this list before 1400 UTC. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: FYI: Browser and Flash
* Alexander Sack | At best, just file a bug against flashplugin-nonfree ... I will enable | midbrowser with next flashplugin-nonfree upload then. I just did. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Status for Chat, Mobile Media Player, and Home Screen UI
* "Spencer, Bob" [...] | We will then need to have these UME-specific configuration settings | added in UME Hildon. (email attached) There was no attachment? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Spec status 2007-09-06
My spec status for this week: * mobile-window-manager No further progress, but marked as complete. Matchbox is in and seems to do the job just fine. * mobile-build-infrastructure One moblin-image-creator upload last week; waiting on reworking of the configuration system before I do the next one. Plan for next week is to get autobuilt LPIA images. * mobile-development-environment No further progress; I've had various discussions with people, but nothing solid has come out of it. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
IRC meeting tomorrow Thursday at 1600 UTC
Hi, this is your regular reminder that we are having an IRC meeting tomorrow Thursday at 1600 UTC. Please make sure to post status updates for your specifications as well as any agenda items to this list before 1400 UTC tomorrow. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: BLTK & PowerTOP
* Jay CHETTY | 1. I was wondering if it's a good idea to include BLTK (Battery Life | Tool Kit) in Ubuntu's gutsy apt repo of debian packages? Possibly; this is the first I have heard of it. Could you give us a reference to where it can be found? | 2. I also noticed that the PowerTOP version in Ubuntu-mobile is not | upto date. The latest version is 1.8 but Ubuntu has 1.7. Are there any good reasons to upgrade to 1.8? We are in upstream version freeze now, so any new upstream versions have to have exceptions approved before being uploaded. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: me-config-crown-beach 0.10 package
* "Johnson, Charles F" | When will me-config-crown-beach 0.10 be integrated into the daily build | for menlow_full ?? Yes, we could certainly get that done. I'm restructuring the ume-config-* packages slightly by refactoring the common bits into an ume-config-common package and will upload the new crown beach configuration package together with this change. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Missing .xinitrc: Launching the UI inside of Xephyr in the Target?
* Matthew Garrett | Ideally, generate an authentication file inside the development | environment and then run Xephyr with the -auth argument to tell it to | use that authentication file. That way there's a shared secret between | the clients and Xephyr, which prevents any information leakage. xhost +SI:localuser:root (or whatever user name you're using in the chroot) should also be helpful, and at least I am not aware of any security problems using that mechanism. (The xhost command needs to be run in the host system) -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Status reports (2007-08-16 → 2007-08-23)
* mobile-development-environment: No further progress; needs seed updates, but otherwise works. * mobile-maemo-packaging-cleanup: Ongoing effort, nothing particularly interesting to report. * mobile-build-infrastructure: Build logs are now available at http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-archive/moblin-build-logs/ . Small changes to the build system, but nothing interesting to report. * mobile-window-manager: Nothing to report. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
IRC meeting reminder - tomorrow Thursday at 1600 UTC
Hi all, we're having the usual IRC meeting tomorrow at 1600 UTC. Please make sure to post status updates for all specs to this list before 1400 UTC Thursday so people have time to read through and prepare questions and agenda items. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: UME Daily Builds Aren't Happening
* "Johnson, Charles F" | The daily menlow_full builds appear to be just clones of the previous | day. Bit for bit identical. MD5SUM is identical. | | Can someone check what is up? Somebody added moblin-chat to the menlow fset without making sure it exists in ubuntu first. This causes the build to fail and the previous one to be brought forward. I'll take a look at it come Monday. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Meeting reminder - today at 1600 UTC
* Tollef Fog Heen [...] http://kryten.incognitus.net/mootbot/meetings/ubuntu-mobile.20070816_1555.html is the summary with actions. http://kryten.incognitus.net/mootbot/meetings/ubuntu-mobile.log.20070816_1555.html is the complete log. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Patch for ControlPanel
* "Brandt, Todd E" | Hi all, this is regarding the bug in the control panel in the moblin | environment. [...] Variant over the patch applied and uploaded: === modified file 'src/hcp-grid.c' --- src/hcp-grid.c 2007-06-26 08:21:25 + +++ src/hcp-grid.c 2007-08-17 07:19:46 + @@ -463,7 +463,7 @@ GObjectClass *g_object_class = G_OBJECT_CLASS (class); GtkWidgetClass *widget_class = GTK_WIDGET_CLASS (class); - widget_class->size_request = hcp_grid_size_request; + /* widget_class->size_request = hcp_grid_size_request;*/ widget_class->key_release_event = hcp_grid_keyboard_listener; widget_class->focus_in_event = hcp_grid_focus_in; widget_class->button_press_event = hcp_grid_button_pressed; -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Using a Gutsy Install CD directly on Menlow-Crown Beach system
* "Lynch, Rusty" | BTW, Matin Xu (in our PRC team) is seeing a hang if he attempts to | enable usplash on Menlow using the UME kernel, but the problem | doesn't show up on the moblin kernel. Is the install using usplash? I don't believe the alternate install CD is using usplash, no. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Meeting reminder - today at 1600 UTC
* Tollef Fog Heen | Please also post your spec status updates to this list before the | meeting starts so we can have a short meeting instead of a two-hour | one where people spend a lot of time waiting. (As we agreed on in the | last meeting.) Development environment: we now have a ubuntu-mobile-dev task and package in the archive. It currently only gives you libtelepathy-dev, which while a good start is a bit too little. I'm going to expand it a bit over the next week. Packaging cleanup: Ongoing effort; nothing particularly interesting to report. Build infrastructure: The lpia bootstrap is going quite well, we just recently unblocked lots of the hildon libraries which have failed to build due to a bug in glib. I'm looking at possibly having lpia images built from the archive next week. We also need to add (non-public) images containing proprietary flash and similar bits. Those won't be publically available since we can't distribute them, but just having them built daily would be useful. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Meeting reminder - today at 1600 UTC
Hi, just a reminder that we're having the meeting today at 1600 UTC, as usual. Please also post your spec status updates to this list before the meeting starts so we can have a short meeting instead of a two-hour one where people spend a lot of time waiting. (As we agreed on in the last meeting.) -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: A patch for libhildon -- for auto-launch keyboard
* "Michael Dominic K." | Perhaps I'm not fully getting it, but how is that different than | standard gtk input methods stuff? It's not; I'm slowly beginning to understand how those bits fit together now. :-) -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: A patch for libhildon -- for auto-launch keyboard
* Ross Burton | In Poky we start the keyboard in the X session, and install the GTK+ | input method (part of the matchbox-keyboard source) so that the keyboard | is toggled as required. The keyboard is toggled via IPC between the | input method and the keyboard, so you don't need to constantly kill and | restart it. This looks great; I have a test package, based off current SVN, working here which I'll proceed to upload. Any take on whether I should enable the panel applet as well? Only problem is the keyboard ends up consuming quite a lot of screen real estate, see http://err.no/tmp/DSC_5932.2.JPG for a picture. (The resolution on that device is 1024x600.) I think we could manage to shave off a complete row of keys by reducing the size of Home/PgUp/End/PgDn (or get rid of them completely) and making a numpad there. Getting rid of the arrow keys also seems sensible - you have a touch screen, which is much, much faster to use than using arrows. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: A patch for libhildon -- for auto-launch keyboard
* "Han, Jian" | Hi, all | I write a patch for libhildon. It add the feature of auto-launch | keyboard. How is upstream hildon doing this? Is there any reason we can't be doing it the same way? I'd like us to avoid deviating from upstream behaviour as much as possible and rather adopt upstream's approach than invent our own. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: USB Client Blueprint
* "Johnson, Charles F" | Can folks take a look at the USB Client blueprint again ? The folks | doing the work think they addressed the comments from the previous | round. So if you still need more, please post them to the ubuntu-mobile | lists again. It appears to have edit conflicts in it; can those be resolved first? | Also this is another late driver. It isn't schededuled to be Alpha | until 1st week of September. Way to late. I've asked them if they | can provide an early copy so that we can get the packages written | and debugged. Otherwise it will have to be in the Update. Sounds good. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Manifests for installation images
Hi, we now finally have manifests next to the installation images on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/. This makes it much easier to see what versions of packages are in a particular image. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Meeting reminder: Today at 1600 UTC
Hi, just a small reminder that we're having the usual meeting today, on #ubuntu-mobile at 1600 UTC. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Friday's UME build on Menlow
* Lynch, Rusty | * "Pan, Jacob jun" | > USB NIC (SMC was the brand.) does not function. Is there some magic I | > don't know about here ?? | | the driver (asix.ko) should be compiled in as modules in ubuntu ume | kernel. It works on my SMC2209. did you do a hotplug of the adaptor? | The driver is not in the initramfs. As long as you don't need it to boot, there is no reason for it to be in the initramfs. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Images being created again
* "Johnson, Charles F" | I did today's date. What's the difference between the menlow_full and | the menlow_crownbeach ?? menlow_full is the crownbeach-full-mobile-stack fset, while _crownbeach is just the crownbeach-config fset. | Had to comment out the "BusID" line in xorg.conf to get X to start. I | assume this does not have the flash-player included ?? We can't redistribute images with the flashplayer, so no, it's not included. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Camera application working
* "Zhu, Jack" | Spcaview is an available application of camera too, I have test it | on Q1 before, but the feature of active video capturing is not good | enough, need optimization. Do you have a driver for the webcam on the Q1? The stock 2.6.22 driver does not seem to detect it, at least. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Today's Menlow Daily Build
* "Lynch, Rusty" | When ever a given version is released to Gutsy, then you will see a | "gutsy" next to the version instead of "UNRELEASED". The last release | was 0.11, where Rob's changes are in 0.15. Today's daily build should have the fix in, I believe. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Mobile Keyboard (and some introductions)
* Mohammad Anwari | I have some introduction of Hildon Input Method as presented in GUADEC. | http://aksi.mdamt.net/introducing-hildon-input-method Interesting presentation. Do you know when we can expect to see the code for it? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Home applet development in Xephyr
* Bryce Harrington | Please re-enable Composite support, and to a quick verification that the | clipping patch still provides the desired behavior. Thanks; it seems to work fine with Composite enabled now. (samsung-q1-ultra-config updated and uploaded too.) -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: UME Tablet
* James D Bearden | * What handwriting (real and/or graffiti) solution is planned for UME? We haven't started to tackle that problem yet. Do you know of any which are both free software and good? | * Will that solution be available eventually for mainline Ubuntu? Yes, once we have something that works, it will be available for both regular Ubuntu desktops and handheld devices. | * Is there an easy way to install UME on my tablet to try it out? |Like editing my sources.list and running apt-get install ume-desktop? Adilson answered this bit. | * On a UME system can I adjust my sources.list and apt-get install any |Ubuntu software and run it? Yes, but it most likely won't integrate well, UI-wise. | * Is there anything to prevent running mainline apps like OpenOffice |and Evolution on UME? No; but see above. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Home applet development in Xephyr
* Bryce Harrington | On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 10:24:47PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: | > * Bryce Harrington | > | > | I can attempt an ugly hack-around but I'm hoping someone can suggest a | > | better approach? | > | > We have temporarily disabled Composite support in the X server. This | > doesn't solve the problem, but it works around it for now. | | Tollef, can you give me a listing of all drivers where this problem | exists? I assume psb and vesa. Any others? The Samsung Q1 Ultra is using the intel driver. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: UME Image Creation from uFeisty
* "Charles Johnson" | I've gotten that. I've successfully created a project and a target. But | when I start adding the FSETs, core is OK but crownbeach-config cause this | error: This should work better now; ume-config-crownbeach was buggy. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: FW: SELinux on Ubuntu
* "Johnson, Charles F" | Can any of you Canonical guys find out what the official story is as | far as Gutsy is concerned ?? SELinux is not enabled by default and will not be enabled by default for gutsy. Some applications support it; the kernel hooks are there, but I am not aware of anybody currently working on writing a good default policy, which is needed for SELinux to be useful, both as in «the user can use the system» as well as «SELinux provides a useful level of security for the system». If there is sufficient demand for it, we might want to look into it for gutsy+1, but I would like to know what the use cases are before we spend resources on it. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Home applet development in Xephyr
* Bryce Harrington | I can attempt an ugly hack-around but I'm hoping someone can suggest a | better approach? We have temporarily disabled Composite support in the X server. This doesn't solve the problem, but it works around it for now. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Daily builds of UME
Hi all, as of last Friday, we have daily builds of UME. They are available from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/moblin/ . We don't currently have published build logs, but I have a ticket about that filed already, so we should have those fairly soon. Note that the images are currently slightly broken, so they don't actually build, but the above URL will start updating again once the builds are fixed. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: UME status (2007-07-17)
* "Johnson, Charles F" | So from this it still isn't clear to me as to what UME content can be | looked at as part of Tribe-3 ?? The freeze has now occurred. The freeze does not affect us much, since most of our packages are in universe. | If Tribe-3 isn't the right vehicle, then what is it ? (quotation corrected as per your followup mail.) Using moblin-image-creator, we can create images; they don't yet include the flash UI since we cannot distribute images with the flash player embedded. In addition, my upload of moblin-image-creator yesterday broke it, something I am going to fix now. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
UME status (2007-07-17)
Hi all, I figured it was time for a small status update from previous week's sprint at the Canonical office in London and other interesting events. The mobile app framework, aka hildon is mostly there. We have some outstanding patches for hildon-desktop which need to be integrated, but this is being worked on. For mobile browser, I don't really have an update, but Bob Spencer might be able to provide an update. I am currently at GUADEC and Nokia has now announced a browser for their N800 based on Mozilla: http://browser.garage.maemo.org/ This might be interesting to watch out for and compare notes with. The graphics driver is packaged, but not yet uploaded. It is waiting for the new DRM kernel headers it needs and will be uploaded once those are in the archive. Rusty Lynch and I spent quite a bit of time last week on fixing the project builder. It was renamed from project-builder to moblin-image-creator, and we beat it into good enough shape that we arrived at our goal for the week: have daily images built on the build daemon machines in the Canonical data centre. They don't actually work completely correct yet, but I am going to investigate that as soon as I get back home. An UME-enabled kernel was uploaded and built, there was some work on getting it to work on the menlow system we had, but I am not entirely sure whether the efforts were successful or not. If Jacob or Amit could give us an update on that, it would be good. We also worked on getting the Mobile UI up and running on the device. It requires the flash 9 player from Adobe, something we can't legally distribute. We either have to get this working with Gnash, rewrite the frontend using non-flash or some other way. The utilities are marked as blocked; I'm not entirely sure why they are, as all the dependencies are in Ubuntu now (or should be, if not, tell me and I'll get it fixed). We saw some bits of the media player, but it was not very far along and I'm very much looking forward to seeing more progress on this front. The build infrastructure is now set up in launchpad, but we have hit some snags with the toolchain which have temporarily stopped the architecture bootstrap. We have not seen any code drop for the hw decode bits, but once we do, I'll start packaging those. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Userland applications list
* Ross Burton | On Mon, 2007-07-16 at 12:46 -0300, Adilson Oliveira wrote: | > I've being creating a list[1] of basic applications to be included in | > UME. This is just an idea about which applications a webpad-like | > platform should have. | > Take a look at this first draft and be my guest to criticize, opine, | > expand, etc. | | Can I suggest you consider Pimlico for the PIM suite: [...] Yes, we are interested in those, and if you have a demo of them running in a hildon environment I'd love to see that. | Dates and Tasks have ports which use the Hildon widgets already, and | we're working on Contacts currently. Nice. | If anyone here wants to talk with us about Pimlico, we're at GUADEC now. | You might even get a free Pimlico t-shirt. :) Oooh, more t-shirts. I'm sold. ;-) (the part about wanting to see a demo is true, though.) -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Meeting reminder - Today at 1600 UTC
* Matt Zimmerman | > We are going to start bringing in the startup scripts to see how to start | > X and hildon on the device itself. | | Where will these bits live? In hildon-desktop? Unsure. They live in osso-af-startup in maemo, which is on the list of things to ignore for now. We might want to bring that in now; Adilson? | > == mobile-image-creation == | > | > The implementation here is coming along quite nicely, but we need to | > work out how to build the package, as this currently requires root | > access and all the Ubuntu builds are done as non-root users. | | Why does it require root? If it's because it ships a pre-built | chroot, perhaps that could be built separately (like the livefs | image), especially since it will be updated out of sync with the | builder. Yes, it ships a pre-built chroot which is built as part of the package build process. I was also thinking about doing something like the livefs images. | > The other problem is how to handle the initramfs creation. | | What's the issue here? project-builder doesn't know how to create them. I am not entirely sure what the problem is, since it should just be grabbing the initramfs from the bootstrapped image. | > == mobile-ui == | > | > Control panel is not there yet, but the UI as such is moving in the | > right direction, and a «big-icon» UI is already working. The bits | > which are just configuration changes should be split out into its own | > package rather than changing the default configuration in the | > packages. | > | > Bob Spencer is to push the newer code to launchpad. | | Is there initial packaging for this already, or is that pending? Pending any code, I believe this should be mostly a copy of the already existing theme packages and starting to package anything before we know the shape of it is hard. | > We want to make daily (or nightly) builds of ubuntu mobile happen | > now. | | Indeed. I outlined earlier on the list what I thought were the | steps in order to get this done; do you agree with them? Are there | any other blockers I should be aware of? Yes, I believe those steps are enough and I am not aware of any more blockers. | One item for which I don't think we have a spec dedicated is the | list of existing apps to be found, evaluated, packaged and included | in ubuntu-mobile to meet functional requirements. Adilson has begun | working on the first stages of this. I think it would be wise to | create a spec, if only to hold the list of applications pending, | have a place to collect comments, and track the overall status of | working through the list (it doesn't need to be detailed). Agreed. I also rescued the mobile keyboard specification (which ubuntu-mobile wasn't subscribed to, so it escaped me). This needs writing up; I'll follow up on that. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Mobile Keyboard (and some introductions)
* Matthew Allum | Its written in C and depends on just xlib + libfakekey + expat so | very fast and light (approx under 1 sec start up + display on 200mhz | ARM). It can be embedded into a GTK app via a GTK Socket and XEmbed | and does have a compile time option for rendering the keyboard with | Cairo. Layout files are XML and pretty easy to put together (No GUI | tool however) and can be per user as well as system wide and locale | based. How would we go about handling CJVK input with an on-screen keyboard? Does matchbox-keyboard handle that? (I've Cc-ed the author of onboard, another on-screen keyboard and would appreciate any input on whether onboard supports CJVK and if so, how). I've just spent a little time playing with matchbox-keyboard and it seems quite nice so far. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: IRC meeting tomorrow 1600 UTC
* Tollef Fog Heen | So: Please have your spec status sent to this list before the meeting | (the earlier, the better, really). Ubuntu Mobile Application Framework: - Packaging proceeding at a good pace, most of the packages we need are now both in the archive and in an acceptable shape. Window Manager: - Merged changes from maemo and uploaded to gutsy. Build infrastructure: - Moving forward, bootstrapping has now started properly. GNOME Components: - No further progress; spec is approved, I need actually spend some time doing the necessary investigation. Development environment: - Need to go over the spec and make sure it works, a bit slow progress due to too much other going on. Packaging cleanup: - Progressing well, done hand in hand with the application framework, above. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Gutsy Builds & Ubuntu Mobile & Embedded
* "Johnson, Charles F" | I think there was confusion on my part regarding the usefulness (or | lack thereof) of the Gutsy builds | (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule) for MID testing. My | main question is when do we expect to be able to generate true UME | builds ?? Even a target date or Build # would be helpful for | planning purposes. When we discussed this at the last meeting, Tribe 3 (July 19th) came up; I think that's reasonable. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
IRC meeting tomorrow 1600 UTC
Hi, as usual, we'll have an IRC meeting on #ubuntu-mobile at 1600 UTC tomorrow (Thursday July 5th). I'd like everybody who is the assignee for a spec to mail this list (preferably as a followup to this mail) the status for each of their specs before the meeting. The idea is everybody can then just read through the statuses and ask useful questions instead of waiting for people to write up their answers while everybody waits for them. So: Please have your spec status sent to this list before the meeting (the earlier, the better, really). -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Meeting reminder - Today at 1600 UTC
Notes from the meeting: = Spec status = == mobile-app-framework == Adilson and Tollef have worked on bringing in more fixes, mostly packaging related. There are a bunch of 32-bit-isms in the code, so we recommend using a 32 bit chroot for now. We are going to start bringing in the startup scripts to see how to start X and hildon on the device itself. == mobile-image-creation == The implementation here is coming along quite nicely, but we need to work out how to build the package, as this currently requires root access and all the Ubuntu builds are done as non-root users. The other problem is how to handle the initramfs creation. == mobile-kernel == Poulsbo patches and the first UME configuration is going into the next kernel upload. Amit Kucheria is taking over as Canonical's kernel person on the mobile project. Any kernel patches (such as the updated graphics DRM/DRI modules) should go to the kernel team, even if they are part of other specifications. == mobile-ui == Control panel is not there yet, but the UI as such is moving in the right direction, and a «big-icon» UI is already working. The bits which are just configuration changes should be split out into its own package rather than changing the default configuration in the packages. Bob Spencer is to push the newer code to launchpad. == mobile-window-manager == The spec is now approved and source code has been imported, but it's not been uploaded yet. Tollef to upload. == mobile-graphics == Bryce to review the spec and give comments on it. Implementation is coming along with an alpha-quality 2D driver which Charlie is to provide Bryce with for integration into the regular builds. == mobile-browser == Spec is in review. Bob is working with Alexander Sack on getting an initial branch set up and get new chrome and theme going. == mobile-utilities == Coming along well; spec needs to be approved. If new control panel applets show up that we need, they should either be included in the spec or get new specs (depending on their size). == mobile-usb-client == Discussion on the list about this; needs a fair bit of updating for it to be approved. Implementation status somewhat unknown. == mobile-mediaplayer == Spec not started, but Bob to have it written up by next meeting. Implementation is coming along and it's able to play music now. == mobile-build-infrastructure == No progress; Tollef to follow up on some internal issues. == mobile-hw-decode == Spec approved; can already decode MPEG2 and moving on to VC1 and h264. Eventually going to do H264 encoding as well. Would be nice to have gstreamer support too, but Helix is what we are targetting so far. == mobile-gnome-components == Tollef got the spec and is to check which components are actually in, and which need to be brought in to be «GMAE compliant». == mobile-overview informational == Adilson and Tollef to clean up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded == mobile-development-environment == We need an ubuntu-mobile-dev package. Spec needs review and approval, which Tollef is to provide. This will not cover drivers, it will be an SDK kind of package used for developers who want to write applications for the platform. It should include some documentation or pointers to documentation for vendors, etc, who want to write drivers and other addons. == mobile-maemo-packaging-cleanup == Progressing well, packages are becoming quite a lot better already. == power-management-in-ubuntu, mobile-power-thermal-optimzations == Those two go hand in hand. Amit and Intel engineers (Todd, maybe more?) to write up the spec and decide what should go in there. = Plans for next week = We might have a location-related spec (think GPS-es) next week, depending on the team. We want to make daily (or nightly) builds of ubuntu mobile happen now. = Sprint plans = * Make sure to take a good, long look at the whole stack and see if there is anything we have missed. * Intel to bring menlow hardware for testing. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: VMI & KVM in Gutsy Kernels
* "Johnson, Charles F" | For UME, what is the thinking around whether we should have | virtualization available in the UME kernels ?? I think VMI and KVM are | in the latest upstream kernels aren't they ?? Are both of these already | set to be enabled in the desktop and server SKUs of Gutsy ?? They're enabled in the desktop and server kernels. I don't really see a point in having it enabled for the mobile kernels, but if you can come up with a use case for it, I'm not going to veto it. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Meeting reminder - Today at 1600 UTC
This is a small reminder that the next meeting is today, Friday, at 1600 UTC. Agenda is: * Status reports for all specs (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile/) * Goals for the next week I'm hoping we can manage to keep the meeting to about an hour; please be there on time. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: Spec review: USB Client
* "Li, Frank" (Cc-ing you because I don't know if you're on the list or not. Sorry if you end up getting duplicates) | Toll: (Tollef) | 1. I remember WINDOWS XP doesn't provide CDC driver, windows xp sp2 | just provide RNDIS driver for usb to eth. Do you prepare to develop | windows CDC driver? As Rusty says -- No. We are not into developing anything for Windows based systems. | 2. Mass storage device has problem between two systems. Device just | provide umounted storage device to host by Mass storage device. Mass | storage device use SCSI command over USB. So it can't resolve share | problem when device and host access the same file. When host copy a | file to device, device will no see such file before remount the | device because file system uses buffer. I suggest use SMB or NFS. This can either be solved in the way it's solved on the Nokia 770 (and I presume N800) by only allowing access to the VFAT-formatted MMC card, or as you say, use SMB or NFS. As we want windows clients to be able to access this, SMB is probably a good choice, and this should be described in the specification (both what solution you choose, and why). -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Spec review: USB Client
I am currently in the process of going through the various specifications submitted for review or proposal. Since I suspect we will end up with a couple of emails back and forth, I'll be splitting those into separate emails. This email is about the USB client one, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/USBClient - The release note bit is not filled in, this needs to happen. - Some boilerplate text is still present in other sections. Please remove anything which isn't applicable to the spec, or fill in the section. The specification lists a couple of different items that need to be developed: - Linux utility - CDC Ethernet - File-backed storage - Peripherial controller driver The spec should at least list how those bits interact and more importantly, what other features in the OS they hook into and if those need any changes. Ideally, a spec should be implementable by a person who only has the spec as his or her guidance as to how to implement a particular feature. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Spec review: Graphics
I am currently in the process of going through the various specifications submitted for review or proposal. Since I suspect we will end up with a couple of emails back and forth, I'll be splitting those into separate emails. This email is about the Graphics one, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/Graphics - Use cases are missing - The design is completely missing; even just something along the lines of «we will use a standard DRI based design with the following components: A, B, C» will be much better than what is there now. - What changes does this need in other parts of Ubuntu? Does it need changes to the PCI listing database in discover-data? Does it need changes to the detection in Xorg? Etc. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Spec review: Image Creation
I am currently in the process of going through the various specifications submitted for review or proposal. While approving specs, I came across one which is exceptional, the Image Creation one ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileAndEmbedded/ImageCreation ). It is well written and comprehensive at the level of being useful as end-user documentation. So, I would like to thank Rusty Lynch a lot for his work here. It's much appreciated and well done. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: choice of CPU and GNU triplet for lpia
* Matthias Klose | Tollef Fog Heen schrieb: | | > i686 is fine with me, but I suspect the cputable change will then be | > slightly wrong as it will affect i386 too? | | that's why I'm asking. Currently dpkg-architecture behaves like: | | $ dpkg-architecture -alpia | dpkg-architecture: warning: Unknown gcc system type i686-linux-gnulp, falling | back to default (native compilation) | WAS: i686-linux-gnuDEB_BUILD_ARCH=i386 | DEB_BUILD_ARCH_OS=linux | DEB_BUILD_ARCH_CPU=i386 | DEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU=i486 | DEB_BUILD_GNU_SYSTEM=linux-gnu | DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i486-linux-gnu | DEB_HOST_ARCH=lpia | DEB_HOST_ARCH_OS=linux | DEB_HOST_ARCH_CPU=i686 | DEB_HOST_GNU_CPU=i686 | DEB_HOST_GNU_SYSTEM=linux-gnulp | DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE=i686-linux-gnulp This looks fine to me. | and for i386: | | $ dpkg-architecture -ai386 | dpkg-architecture: warning: Unknown gcc system type i686-linux-gnulp, falling | back to default (native compilation) | WAS: i686-linux-gnuDEB_BUILD_ARCH=i386 | DEB_BUILD_ARCH_OS=linux | DEB_BUILD_ARCH_CPU=i386 | DEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU=i486 | DEB_BUILD_GNU_SYSTEM=linux-gnu | DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i486-linux-gnu | DEB_HOST_ARCH=i386 | DEB_HOST_ARCH_OS=linux | DEB_HOST_ARCH_CPU=i386 | DEB_HOST_GNU_CPU=i486 | DEB_HOST_GNU_SYSTEM=linux-gnu | DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE=i486-linux-gnu So does this. | Is it really necessary to use "gnulp" in the GNU triplet? It's new, and *should* | not break anything because usually everything following linux-* is ignored. We need to differentiate the GNU triplet at least one place, so yes, it's necessary to use -gnulp. | The current GCC packages pick up the triplet provided by dpkg-architecture and | configure --with-tune=i586 if the debian architecture is lpia. Ok, thanks. Just to verify, those are in the archive now and we can then start bootstrapping? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: IRC meeting Thursday 1600UTC
Hi, notes from the IRC meeting last week; sorry about not posting those before, but I have been on vacation and then busy catching up. The agenda was as follows: * Hildon packaging update (Tollef Fog Heen/Adilson Oliveira) * Flash image creation (Rusty Lynch) * Kernel and hardware support (Ben Collins) - MID Wireless Device Support & Kernel Patches for Thermal optimizations * UI, utilities (Bob Spencer) * Graphics (Charlie Johnson) * Build infrastructure (Tollef Fog Heen) * GNOME components (Bob Spencer) * Documentation * Ownerless specs: - UI guide - Browser - Media player UI - Hardware media decoding - USB client - Development environment * Goals for the next week = Hildon packaging update = Adilson gave an update on the packaging. We are now at a point where a first cut of the packages are in gutsy and you can get a hildon desktop up and running only using packages in the archive. This should make anyone wanting to build applications on top of Hildon able to do so. There is a bug in hildon-desktop which makes it crash if you click the application menu, but we are working on fixing that. Adilson believed the custom file picker patch for GTK+ had gone absent and will check up on that. ACTION: Adilson to check if the GTK+ patch is still present. = Flash image creation = The spec is lagging behind the implementation, but the implementation is quite complete already. It needs some tweaks to be able to generate a first generation bootable image, but the Samsung Q1 Ultra device itself is a challenge due to some hardware without drivers. = Kernel and hardware support = There are two bits to this: the necessary kernel patches and the configuration. Jacob and Amit are working together on bringing the patches into the Ubuntu kernel repository, but there are some minor changes that are still needed. ACTION: Jacob to clean up patches and work with Amit on getting them into the kernel repository. = UI & Utilities = The specs here are lagging quite badly, but progress on the implementation during the DAM was good. Some docs are written, but not yet put anywhere public, but Bob is going to do that, hopefully by Monday evening. ACTION: Bob to put his note and API / UML somewhere for others to see. = Graphics = Postponed, since Charlie had to leave the meeting at the top of the hour. Will be followed up by email. = Build infrastructure = No progress; Tollef has been on vacation. = GNOME components = The spec here is currently empty. The plan is to fill it with what parts of GNOME Mobile we want to use. Depending on whether we want UME to be a product or a platform, two approaches are possible: - If we are building a product, just use exactly what our applications need. - If we are building a platform, include GMAE and any extras we need for our platform. Consensus on going for the platform approach was reached. = Documentation = Ian Lawrence has taken on the effort of trying to make heads and tails of Hildon from a documentation perspective. There was some discussion as to what documentation system to use. He has set up some preliminary bits on http://proddingthe.net/ which he requests feedback on. He'll also write up a spec about how documentation should be done. ACTION: Ian Lawrence to create specification about documentation. = Ownerless specifications = We had a few ownerless specifications who got new owners: Bob picked up UI guide, Browser, Media player UI, Charlie Johnson got Hardware media decoding and USB client while Tollef Fog Heen picked up Development environment = Goals for next week = The goal is to have all specifications pushed through to approved by the next meeting. Rusty also wants to have the necessary init scripts in place so it's possible to boot straight into a maemo environment. Next meeting is Friday at 1600 UTC to accomodate for Rusty travelling on Thursday. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
Re: choice of CPU and GNU triplet for lpia
* Matthias Klose | The last dpkg upload added support for dpkg, setting the cpu used to i386 and | the GNU triplet to gnulp-linux-i386. Setting the CPU explicitely to i386 | compared to i586 or i686) will get us other ABIs at least for some packages | (GCC); while we can take care of this in the packaging of these few packages, we | should use something like i586 or i686 which comes close to the targeted cpu. | a proposed patch is attached. i686 is fine with me, but I suspect the cputable change will then be slightly wrong as it will affect i386 too? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- Ubuntu-mobile mailing list Ubuntu-mobile@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-mobile
