Re: Re: State of Jack as a full pulsaudio replacement
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Len Ovens wrote: > > Rebooted with netmanager turned off. Problem is gone. > > I've had this same problem with netmanager in the past. It's one of the reasons why Ubuntu Studio use to come without netmanager. Back then, however, there was an alternative GUI to set up networks, which I don't think is the case now. Any install without netmanager will probably have to set-up networks via the command line, which is not exactly convenient. :) -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Removing Pulseaudio, and overweight DE's affects on performance
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 3:09 AM, Marc R.J. Brevoort wrote: > On Mon, 14 Nov 2011, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > >>> In my experience, the main difficulty in removing Pulseaudio is >>> finding a replacement volume control applet that can sit in a systray. > > I've had that problem. The Volti volume control applet will do the trick > nicely. > I've also used Volti before in this situation, and it works well. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: US website theme RFC & request for screenshots
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Jorge G. Mare wrote: > Hi Eric, > > > Although at this point in time I do not know with certainty which > modules I will be using, I do expect to end up using multiple modules > in addition to Drupal core, so this requirement may become a real > challenge. > > Cheers, > > Jorge > It might not be too bad. I would assume (though obviously I can't say for certain) that Canonical has already approved the most commonly used modules i.e. CCK, Views, and so on. It might only be a severe issue if you are using something out of the ordinary. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: US website theme RFC & request for screenshots
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Jorge G. Mare wrote: > Howdy, > > As mentioned in another message today, I have posted some screenshots > of the Drupal 6 theme that I am developing for the US website. You can > see the images here: > > https://picasaweb.google.com/jorge.g.mare/UbuntuStudioArtwork# > > Input/feedback is welcome, but please note that this is still at a > very early stage, so be nice and ignore the rough edges (which there > are many). Also, please ignore the wording; I am using mostly borrowed > text as placeholders. > > Now I have a request. I would like to have screenshots of US in > action, particularly in the application space and user cases that US > specifically caters to, to use as artwork in the front page and also > as part of the Screenshot section that will be added later. So I am > asking you, US users, to send me your screenies. Assuming this list > does not accept attachments, feel free to email them to me privately. > > Thanks! > > Jorge > Hey, there! A few things. First, I'm glad to see Cory is back. Second, I'm sorry I dropped off the face of the planet as far as website development. I have done a little bit of work since my last e-mail, but not a lot, and I think I just need to accept that I'm not going to have time to help out with Ubuntu Studio, at least not for a few months. Third, I like the designs, Jorge, and thanks for jumping in and doing all this great work. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Kokito and Ubuntu Studio Website Update
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Jorge G. Mare wrote: Hey, Jorge, glad to see you're interested in helping! First, I'm sorry I haven't had any website updates for the last few weeks. Real life has swamped me, and I haven't had much time to do any work. I'm hoping to get some time in over the next few days. Jorge, right now the very basic aspects of the theme are in place (you can see it in action here: http://mousike.dyndns.org/ubuntustudio/). I would say that what we need to do next is get the back end and initial content of the site organized, and then we will know precisely what CSS remains to be done. I'll send out a more detailed e-mail about how I think this stuff should be implemented in Drupal (i.e. what modules to use and with what settings, content types, user roles, etc) the next time I get the chance. If you have ideas on these things as well, definitely let us know! -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Website Testing Files
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Brian David wrote: > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, ailo wrote: > > So those who wish to see test content pages can now. > > > -- > -Brian David > The buttons on the banner, however, will not work at the moment, as those are hard-coded into the html. I'll fix that the next time a send out an update. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Website Testing Files
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:28 PM, ailo wrote: > I don't know why the other pages don't work. I tried the theme using > postgres at first, but it was too much work converting the .sql file, so > I installed mysql. I did see a change on how the front page looks, after > adding the sql file as the database file for drupal. Maybe I need to > adjust something somewhere, I'll have a look. > The links weren't working because the database was set for clean URLs, but your server is probably not configured for that at the moment. I went ahead and turned off the clean URLs through the Drupal admin interface using the administration name and password that came with the database I sent, and it works now. I hope you don't mind that I logged into your test install, I realize I probably should have asked before doing so. So those who wish to see test content pages can now. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Website Testing Files
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 3:03 AM, ailo wrote: > On 03/08/2011 10:00 AM, ailo wrote: >> >> On 03/08/2011 08:27 AM, ailo wrote: >>> >>> I set up this on my own server. Feel free to check it out at (bad >>> bandwidth, just so you know): >>> >>> http://mousike.dyndns.org/ubuntustudio/ >>> Thank for doing this, Ailo, it makes testing a lot easier. Also, I appreciate the feedback. >On one of my monitors i get maximum 1024x768 resolution. Using firefox, not >all of the banner fits in my window, while there's quite a lot of room left on >the width. >I think the width should be expanded while the main stuff should be shrunk >vertically. It is also the case on my monitor that you need to scroll down to see the Screenshots. I thought this might be worrisome, but at the time I was just trying to set it up so it looks like the picture on the revamp page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskWebRevamp). I can try some re-arranging, of course. I personally like the Ubuntu Studio logo being separate from the banner on the splash page. I'll try to come up with something in between the way it is now and the layout you suggested. Something that will hopefully get the screenshots on the page without any need to scroll. As for the width, since it is a fixed width style, then I felt the 750 px was a good compromise for those people who still use small monitors (lots of people are still running 800 x 600, and some are even still at 640 x 480!) I'll try some new colors on the buttons, and maybe get some script in there to light them up when people mouse over. By the way, would it be possible to set up some of the other test pages, so that we can see what the content pages look like? Right now, none of the links work. Thanks! -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Website Testing Files
As mentioned at the meeting today, here are the files for the Impact theme, for those who wish to test it out. You will need be running some kind of server with a Drupal 6 (not 7!) install (I use XAMPP). http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/impact_2011-02-26.tar.gz Please read the README.txt Enjoy, and let me know what you think. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: monthly meetings
2011/3/4 Raony Guimaraes Corrêa Do Carmo Lisboa Cardenas : > Hello all, > > My name is Raony Guimarães, I'm a student of Biomedical informatics from > Brazil and also a musician using Ubuntu Studio 10.10 and having a lot of fun > with me free time. > > I would like to participate on this meeting, it's ok ? I have knowledge and > experience developing in the following languages (C, C++, Python and Java) > and I would like to help the project somehow. > > Nowadays, I have been working more with webdevelopment so I use a lot from > the art stuff of Ubuntu Studio (Gimp, Inkscape, etc) on my websites. > > I'm also a researcher at the University doing some Genome Analysis working > with Pharmacogenomics and Personalized Medicine. Life happens to be fun ! :) > > This semester I have only one course to finish my graduation so I will have > a lot of free time to learn and dedicated in other projects like Ubuntu > Studio. > > I would need someone to help me with key factors that I need to learn in > order to help the community more in the future to grow and expand. > > Thank you for your attention. > Glad to see you are interested! I can't imagine any reason why you would not be able to attend, so you should! -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: monthly meetings
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Mike Holstein wrote: > regular monthly meetings the first sunday of the month starting this sunday, > march 6th... the time is 10am eastern standard time... PLEASE LET ME KNOW if > you have trouble finding out what time this is in your local time zone... > eastern standard time is US/new york.. > for example: > 10:00:00 a.m. Sunday March 6, 2011 in America/New_York converts to > 03:00:00 p.m. Sunday March 6, 2011 in GMT > http://www.timezoneconverter.com/ might be helpful... > ...also, if there needs to be a special meeting set up for a specific > purpose, such as meeting with the website team, and this time is bad for key > members, additional meetings can and should be added anytime for this > purpose... thanks > Hey, Sundays work for me. It's a bit early to get up on a day off, but it's a good cause. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Website
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:42 AM, Brian David wrote: > Yes, I am experienced with creating themes with Drupal. I would say > that the Impact theme needs a bit of touching up, but it's pretty > close to complete. > > What I really would like to know is exactly how this gets done. Well, I'll go ahead and start building the Drupal theme to get things started. It'll take a little while to get that done. In the meantime, Eric, let me know what things you would like to discuss in detail about the theme. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Website
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Eric Hedekar wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Brian David wrote: >> >> > > Hey Brian, > > You and I need to have a brief chat (maybe we should CC Scott L in the > process) about the current state of the Impact theme. Is it ready to be > implemented into a full Drupal theme? Do you have any experience creating a > Drupal theme? As the artistic designer of the Impact theme are there any > final touches that you think need to be made to it? etc... > > I have put myself forward as the guy who will work on a major portion of the > back end for this overhaul, but I have extremely limited time and have been > letting this slide too far. I don't want to let it slide much further. > Though natty has no bearing on our site's progress (it'll be ready when it's > ready). > > Soon source files of images, fonts, colours, etc... all need to be hammered > down to exact specs. > > -Eric > Yes, I am experienced with creating themes with Drupal. I would say that the Impact theme needs a bit of touching up, but it's pretty close to complete. What I really would like to know is exactly how this gets done. Who has access to the Ubuntu Studio website? How do we upload files? Should I just create the Drupal theme and then pass the files along to Scott? That would be easy enough, but after that, who is it that would maintain the site and add content? Would content be created on the Ubuntu Studio site itself, or would documentation be done using the regular Ubuntu Wiki? All of this is a mystery. What is the actual process? -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Website
Natty is not too far off, and it's been a while since there was any updates on what is going on with the website. I believe there was a meeting over a month ago about this subject, but no minutes were sent out. So, I was wondering if we could get an update on the current state of the website re-design? -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Alessio's PPA Natty - 2.6.37-11.25~ppa1 - OK
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Fernando Gomes wrote: > Sorry for this newbie question, the Alessio PPA kernel should be tested on > Natty Alpha 1? So to test it I should install Natty Alpha 1 and then install > Alessio PPA low-latency kernel? > I am willing to test it, just to be sure that this is the way to do it ;-) > Best regards > Fernando > Yes, this is the preferred way to do it since this helps Alessio in testing the kernels for the release of Natty. However, I believe that is also possible to use the Natty kernels on other releases, should you wish to do so. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: [LAU] RT_GROUP_SCHED kernel option makes JACK unusable in Ubuntu Natty
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:07 AM, torbenh wrote: > On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:46:55PM -0500, Ronan Jouchet wrote: >> On 10-12-14 11:39 PM, Daniel Chen wrote: >> >On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Ronan Jouchet wrote: d in place. > > i always thought ubuntu was about making things easy for the user. > regarding jack, ubuntu has quite a big track record of making things hard > for the users. > > >> >> Ronan Ubuntu often does make things easier for the average user. Unfortunately, the 'average user' is not an audio enthusiast. I get the impression that the use of Ubuntu as a DAW is so far off Canonical's radar that it never occurred to them that this might be a problem. It's yet another reason (possibly even the most important reason) why Ubuntu Studio should continue to be developed. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: irc meeting
On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:01 AM, Benjamin Turner wrote: > > Brian - > I like the site, both your personal portfolio and the Sun Machine Co-Op! > Looks like you've got a good place to plug UbuntuStudio! :) > - Ben I have been planning to start writing more about Ubuntu Studio on that website. I'll probably have the time to do that after the new year. > NEXT MEETING at UTC Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 01:00:00 in the irc > channel #ubuntustudio-devel on freenode. > i used http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html to convert the > time to UTC... for example... > * > * > *"Location Local time Time zone New York (U.S.A. - New York) Tuesday, > December 21, 2010 at 8:00:00 PM UTC-5 hours EST* > *UTC Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 01:00:00"* > * Unfortunately, I will once again not be able to attend this meeting, because I am going to be working. The holidays are making the work schedule very tricky to adjust. I'll definitely read up on the meeting notes, and do what I can to participate. In case there is enough people interested in rescheduling the meeting, next week I would be available the day before or after the currently scheduled date (UTC Tuesday, December 21, or Thursday, December 23 @ 1:00:00) -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Jack/Natty crashes on "Cannot create thread 1 Operation not permitted" error
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:05 PM, Ronan Jouchet wrote: > On 10-12-12 08:41 PM, Brian David wrote: >> On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Ronan Jouchet wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I can't run Jack under Natty, it refuses to start and raises a "Cannot >>> create thread 1 Operation not permitted" error. Full log at >>> http://pastebin.com/B45WFr0F. >>> Help welcome... maybe I just forgot something stupid, maybe this is a >>> real issue. >>> >>> More info: >>> Realtime setup done at installed time >>> Realtime setup confirmed via the Ubustu Controls app (user in audio >>> group, memlock, rtprio) >>> Kernels tested: generic, lowlatency >>> Tested under normal user account and with sudo >>> Gear: Edirol FA-66 through a TI PCMCIA card that used to work >>> flawlessly under Lucid and Maverick. >>> Natty 20101212 x86 >>> >>> Thanks for your help, >>> >>> -- >>> Ronan >>> >> >> One issue I see right away is that you should not be using Ubuntu >> Studio Controls to adjust the realtime settings. Unless things have >> changed (perhaps they have), Ubuntu Studio Controls edits >> /etc/security/limits.conf, which is the wrong file. The file you will >> want to edit is /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf. Because you've >> used Ubuntu Studio Controls, there's a chance that you have settings >> in both limits.conf and audio.conf, and this can definitely cause >> issues. >> >> Make sure only one of those files has the realtime settings. Hope that >> helps! > > Hi Brian, > > Indeed, both files exist and have different settings, I'm having a look > at this. > > Also, adi from #ffado mentioned several points nedding investigation, > I'll test them tomorrow and report here. > > Thanks for the hint! > > Ronan Jouchet > Just to clarify, you will want to remove only the realtime settings in limits.conf, and not the entire file. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Jack/Natty crashes on "Cannot create thread 1 Operation not permitted" error
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Ronan Jouchet wrote: > Hi, > > I can't run Jack under Natty, it refuses to start and raises a "Cannot > create thread 1 Operation not permitted" error. Full log at > http://pastebin.com/B45WFr0F. > Help welcome... maybe I just forgot something stupid, maybe this is a > real issue. > > More info: > Realtime setup done at installed time > Realtime setup confirmed via the Ubustu Controls app (user in audio > group, memlock, rtprio) > Kernels tested: generic, lowlatency > Tested under normal user account and with sudo > Gear: Edirol FA-66 through a TI PCMCIA card that used to work > flawlessly under Lucid and Maverick. > Natty 20101212 x86 > > Thanks for your help, > > -- > Ronan > One issue I see right away is that you should not be using Ubuntu Studio Controls to adjust the realtime settings. Unless things have changed (perhaps they have), Ubuntu Studio Controls edits /etc/security/limits.conf, which is the wrong file. The file you will want to edit is /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf. Because you've used Ubuntu Studio Controls, there's a chance that you have settings in both limits.conf and audio.conf, and this can definitely cause issues. Make sure only one of those files has the realtime settings. Hope that helps! -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: irc meeting
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Mike Holstein wrote: > NEXT MEETING at UTC Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 01:00:00 in the irc > channel #ubuntustudio-devel on freenode. > i used http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html to convert the > time to UTC... for example... > "Location Local time Time zone New York (U.S.A. - New York) Tuesday, > December 21, 2010 at 8:00:00 PM UTC-5 hours EST > UTC Wednesday, December 22, 2010 at 01:00:00" > the following link will put you right in the 'action' after you choose a > nick name and solve a captcha.. > http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntustudio-devel&uio=d4 I'll try to get my work schedule adjusted so I can attend this time. It should hopefully not be too hard to do. Also, thanks for picking my design idea for the site! It'll be fun to see where it goes from here. On a side note, I finally finished a small on-line portfolio, which I said I would show you all whenever it was done. It is here for anyone who is interested: http://www.sunmachine.coop/briandavid/ Thanks! -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Made With UbuntuStudio Logos
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Eric Hedekar wrote: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Scott Lavender > wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:05 PM, wrote: >> >>> On Oct 29, 2010 12:29pm, G M Slater wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Fellow UbuntuStudio users: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Is there an official Made With UbuntuStudio logo? My latest album >>> > was recorded almost entirely using it, and I would like to be able >>> > to advertise that fact. It seems like a great way to draw more >>> > deserved attention to an incredible OS. In case anyone is >>> > interested, the music (dark ambient) is freely available at >>> http://soundcloud.com/occurrences-in-rain >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > If there is not an official logo, is there any particular graphic >>> > other enthusiasts are using? >>> > >>> >> > This is a subject that was brought up on this list back in June and a few > nice (in my opinion) examples were created. Here's the link to the original > poster's e-mail (including links to download all the creations): > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/2010-June/002401.html > > -Eric Hedekar > > Now that I have the real Ubuntu font, I'll update those versions Erik is referencing, and make a Wiki page per Scott's suggestions. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu switching to Unity Desktop
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 21:50 -0500, Brian David wrote: > > > I believe that Unity does not currently use Compiz, although it will > > by the time of Natty's release. In order to use Unity on a desktop > > right now, you'll want to make sure Compiz is turned off (at least, > > such is the case with my computer). I always have Compiz turned off, > > anyway, because it introduces noticeably slower performance with > > certain applications (GIMP in particular). > > -- > > -Brian David > > > I do not use Compiz at current. And at the time of testing Unity, it > still did not work with Compiz disabled. > > > I have no dramas with performance in The Gimp with Compiz disabled. Why > do you suggest there is a performance hit with it disabled? > > Regards > > > -- > > Chris Jones > > > We are having a simple communication error. I was saying that GIMP is noticeably slower with Compiz enabled, not disabled. In other words, we are agreeing. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu switching to Unity Desktop
On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Chris Jones wrote: > On Thu, 2010-10-28 at 09:17 +0200, Antoine Thomas wrote:> > > I am not so sure about that. > > I have tested Unity in its current form on my onboard Intel i865 video > chipset which can run Compiz just fine. Yet Unity simply does not work, > on the same hardware. > Although this may change as development comes along. > > Regards > > > -- > > Chris Jones > I believe that Unity does not currently use Compiz, although it will by the time of Natty's release. In order to use Unity on a desktop right now, you'll want to make sure Compiz is turned off (at least, such is the case with my computer). I always have Compiz turned off, anyway, because it introduces noticeably slower performance with certain applications (GIMP in particular). -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu switching to Unity Desktop
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Antoine Thomas wrote: > > Imho, we should first test if Unity desktop has a good or bad influence on > stability and performances. Once tested, it will be time to say if it is > good to keep Gnome and wait for Gnome 3.0, or follow on Unity. > > Think that if we choose to continue to use Gnome desktop, we will have to > maintain more stuff by ourselves, this is a lot of work, or perhaps there > will be a new Gubuntu flavor (like Kubuntu) on which we might count. But it > means a lot of work and skills we don't have. Maybe it's better to focus on > applications packaging, performance optimization, etc... than on which > desktop should the default one. > > If Unity works well, why should we bored ?? > > Toine > > Spent some time messing around with Unity today and. . .I kind of like it, to be honest. Give it a few more months of tweaking and I'd be completely okay with using it. I am concerned about the 3d graphics requirement. I know a lot of people use Ubuntu (and Linux in general) to run older machines, so that could be an issue. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Natty -lowlatency kernel
On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 3:02 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: > Hi, > > I would want let you notice that I made a preliminary (and untested) > version of the Natty -lowlatency kernel for testing. > It is available through my PPA > ( > https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=natty<https://launchpad.net/%7Eabogani/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=natty> > ). > > I suggest to use a VM for first tests at least. > > Any feedback is welcome! > > Ciao, > Alessio > > I attempted to test -lowlatency, but could not even get JACK started on my VM Natty install. Virtual Machines run very slow on my computer, making it frustrating to test things. I'll try again when the first alpha gets released. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 2:22 AM, wrote: > Hello, > > thank you for your efforts and input! I personally like the lighter > versions better. Maybe because I live in an area that is currently getting > darker every day, therefore I like a lighter design. > > Thanks again! > > Sincerely, > Stefan > > To be honest, I like the lighter version as well. I know that Scott preferred a darker theme, as that is more in line with the Ubuntu Studio branding up to this point. I've gone ahead and added the earlier image of the 'light' theme to the wiki page for the sake of completeness. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
Alright, I've finished the next updates on my theme. It has been converted to a dark theme (using some of the more flashy graphics I have been working on. I felt the flat colors of the light theme just didn't work well in the dark version), and I've separated it into a landing page and a content page. You can find the images, as well as some descriptive text, at the revamp wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskWebRevamp I named the theme 'Impact' (cheesy, I know) and it is below Benjamin's 'Audio Horizons' theme. Let me know what you all think. -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > On Wed, 2010-10-20 at 17:25 -0500, Brian David wrote: > > Hey everyone, while working an updated mock-up for my website theme, I > > came up with an idea for an Ubuntu Studio wallpaper. It looks like > > this: > > > > http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/amp_thumbnail.png > > > > The pic is of an older amplifier I use for my turntable. This image > > is just a thumbnail, and not usable as a wallpaper. If anyone wants > > an actual wallpaper, just let me know what size, and I'll post it. > > > > I'll try to get the finished mock-up out to the list later tonight. > > > > How can I put it nicely, but that's darn ugly! And that wallpaper would > be replaced quick smart if it made its way onto my system. > > No offense intended, but it's not my taste and don't think it would be > suitable for a default or additional wallpaper for Ubuntu Studio. > > Kind regards > > > -- > > Chris Jones > > Heh, well you can't win them all. :) -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
Hey everyone, while working an updated mock-up for my website theme, I came up with an idea for an Ubuntu Studio wallpaper. It looks like this: http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/amp_thumbnail.png The pic is of an older amplifier I use for my turntable. This image is just a thumbnail, and not usable as a wallpaper. If anyone wants an actual wallpaper, just let me know what size, and I'll post it. I'll try to get the finished mock-up out to the list later tonight. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Question concerning ubuntu studio 10.10
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Janne Jokitalo wrote: > On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 12:53:35PM +0200, Tamas Hanula wrote: > > Dear developers, > > > > Want to ask if there is a plan to release the new ubuntu studio based on > the > > Ubuntu 10.10 version. > > http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/10.10/release/ > > > If yes, what will be the approximate release date. > > Looks to me like it was released on the same date than vanilla Ubuntu, > which is > usually the case with official derivates. > > > Best regards, > > -- > Jaska > > The confusion is likely due to the fact that the Ubuntu Studio website does not say there is a new release, and does not have any links. But it's there! Here's a link: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/10.10/release/ -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 7:33 AM, Scott Lavender wrote: > > > Brian, > > Sorry it has taken so long to reply. Just been very, very busy, man. > > *SNIP* > > I hope this answers your questions. Please let me know if you have other > questions or concerns. > > ScottL > > Thanks, Scott, that's a pretty thorough answer. I'm very curious about the process involved with working with Canonical and getting changes approved by them. How do you learn about that kind of stuff? I'll get an updated mock-up out to the list by Wednesday, where I'll add the suggestions from you and others. In addition to the landing page mock-up, I'll do a content page design as well. I'll also write up a description of the theme (and maybe even come up with a name!) similar to what Benjamin has done. That way there's basically the same information available to compare and contrast. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Little advise for all who will work on closed video drivers (was "Closed video drivers for -realtime kernels")
On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: > > > You could see if the system was be able to write something to log > files before it locks. Try this: > > zgrep "\-realtime" /var/log/* > > Ciao, > Alessio > > Here are the results of that command: http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/logs.txt -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Little advise for all who will work on closed video drivers (was "Closed video drivers for -realtime kernels")
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 1:45 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote:
> Hi Brian,
>
> 2010/10/14 Brian David :
> [...]
> > Alessio, here is a link to the requested log files:
> > http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/xorg_logs.zip
> > Apologies for taking so long to get these to you.
>
> Don't worry! :-)
>
> The /var/log/Xorg.[0-9]*.log and dmesg output are mandatory for help
> to understand problems under all kernels. The former it is
> particularly X oriented when the latter is more generic (it is cover
> all things controlled by kernel).
> *SNIP*
>
> Ciao,
> Alessio
>
>
Thanks for the excellent instructions!
I attempted to work on this today, however I got to step 4 ("Switch to
command line interface (CTRL+ALT+F1)") and was unable to get to a CLI
prompt. I wait until X fails, the screen goes blank, and after making sure
the system is no longer doing anything, I hit CTRL+ALT+F1. Nothing happens,
and I am forced to do a hard reset.
What should I try next?
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Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 2:48 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:16 PM, Benjamin Turner < > passionsplaydes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thinking further on it I have two requests. > > Can you try to use some of the "official" colors? Perhaps use the first > blue from this page? > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/DIYConcept#Color%20Palette > > Also, would it be possible to make a dark theme? At least as an alternate? > > Thank you again for the work you have done! > > ScottL > > I'm not sure if this is directed at Benjamin or me, or perhaps both. Regardless, I could apply either suggestion to my design. However, I would like to get back to the question of decision making for this process. It would be helpful for me, and probably others, to know exactly what approach Scott plans to take for making the ultimate decision here, and in what time frame. I'm okay with whatever is decided, I just don't want to spend too much more time on these mock-ups before I know with more certainty if I'll be working on this project, and in what capacity. It would be frustrating to come up with something really polished, only to have it decided that we'll be moving in a different direction. :) -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Benjamin Turner < passionsplaydes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Brian > > I'm liking the structural elements, specifically how the logo is front and > center, anchoring the whole page. > > One thing that feels just a bit off to me is that the colors are all so > close to each other on the color wheel - blues to purple, with a bunch of > white. I wonder what would happen if you incorporated just a touch of > yellow, maybe orange, to add some contrast. > > - Benjamin > > Yeah, I'm kind of a sucker for monochromatic color schemes. I don't know if I'd want to throw in any yellows, but I can try it with the Ubuntu Studio color palette that Scott suggested. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Closed video drivers for -realtime kernels
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: > Hi Brian, > > 2010/10/11 Brian David : > [...] > > Alessio, fglrx will now install without errors on -realtime, but X will > not > > start. All I get is a blank screen. > > > > What commands should I run to get you the information you need? > > As first step could you provide /var/log/Xorg.[0-9]*.log files, please? > > Alessio, here is a link to the requested log files: http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/xorg_logs.zip Apologies for taking so long to get these to you. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Audio no longer feasible with vanilla Ubuntu + Studio packages (?)
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Ronan Jouchet wrote: > > Howdy, > > TToine: yes I added myself to the audio group (that's what "the usual > setup in groups" meant in my extremely imprecise original mail :P ) > > Brian, yay! You're right these settings were in > /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf (thanks to jackd2's dpkg install > procedure, am I right?) but I also added them manually in > /etc/security/limits.conf . Seems to work fine after restoring > limits.conf. And sorry if the following questions have already been > answered, but: > a. is audio.conf new to jack2? > b. why this change? > c. should we leave limits.conf alone now? > > I am using an Edirol FA-66. And while we're at it, now seems a good > time to empty my bag of related questions: > d. I read about changes in the firewire stack (different kinds of > /dev beasts used now). Do they concern all firewire cards, and what is > their impact? > e. is adding the user to the "disk" group still required? > f. under lucid, in order to get jack to start I often had to modprobe > raw1394 && chmod a+rw /dev/raw1394 . Under Maverick I no longer need > this, is this thanks to the new firewire stack, some kind of new auto > setup, or the powerz of keyboard cat playing during a full moon night? > > Thanks everybody for your grrreat help! > Ronan > > Looks like all your questions got answered. I will say that I use a firewire device myself (a Firepod) and while it does work out of the box in Maverick, I found it did not work well i.e. lots of x-runs. However, when I used Ubuntu Studio Controls to adjust firewire priveleges, it worked much better. I would not use Ubuntu Studio Controls for anything else, though, as it still modifies limits.conf, and as this discussion has pointed out, that is no longer the right file. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Audio no longer feasible with vanilla Ubuntu + Studio packages (?)
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Ronan Jouchet wrote: > On 10/08/2010 12:14 AM, Brian David wrote: > > Hi Brian, > > Yes I tried disabling NetworkManager (by unchecking nm in the Startup > options, completely disabling it at logon) > I also tried disabling compiz, it didn't help. > > Anything else I should try? Thanks! > > Also, you should not be using limits.conf anymore. JACK will create /etc/security/limits.d/audio.conf, and that is the one that should be used to adjust settings. I think it might cause trouble if these settings are listed in both limits.conf and audio.conf What kind of interface are you using? -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Closed video drivers for -realtime kernels
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:40 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: > Hi, > > 2010/10/11 Brian David : > [...] > > I do not believe this is correct. There is no -rt or -realtime kernel > > available for Maverick in the official repos or in Alessio's PPA (there > may > > be some in another PPA, or course). > > There is -realtime (and also -lowlatency) kernel for Maverick in my PPA: > https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa/+packages<https://launchpad.net/%7Eabogani/+archive/ppa/+packages> > > Moreover also on: > http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git > > In any case, as promised in a my previous email, I'll drop these in few > hours. > > Ciao, > Alessio > > I would like to say that I had planned to use -realtime and -lowlatency once Maverick had come out. I was just not in a very good position to do a lot of testing while it was in Beta. If you are still willing to work on it for Maverick, you'll have at least me as one user. :) Otherwise, I don't mind sticking with Lucid for a while. I do need some kind of real-time kernel to use Ubuntu Studio on any serious projects. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Closed video drivers for -realtime kernels
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 1:26 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: > Hi Brian, > > 2010/10/11 Brian David : > [...] > > Alessio, fglrx will now install without errors on -realtime, but X will > not > > start. All I get is a blank screen. > > > > What commands should I run to get you the information you need? > > As first step could you provide /var/log/Xorg.[0-9]*.log files, please? > > Thanks! > > Ciao, > Alessio > > Thanks, I'll work on this later today. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Closed video drivers for -realtime kernels
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Tim Cook wrote: > >> >> Hi Alessio, >> >> I am a little confused. Two days ago you sent an email with a subject >> line of: Maverick -lowlatency and -realtime kernel dropped >> >> >> >> -- >> >> *** >> Timothy Cook, MSc >> Project Lead - Multi-Level Healthcare Information Modeling >> http://www.mlhim.org >> >> > Tim, > > This is because Maverick is released and development terminated. Only a > -generic kernel is available in the official repositories for Maverick. > > I am presuming that the -rt kernel is available in Alessio's PPA. > > And of course, the goal for Natty is to compliment the -generic kernel with > a -lowlatency kernel in the official repository. And support from us will > determine if Alessio can provide a -rt kernel as well. > > ScottL > > I do not believe this is correct. There is no -rt or -realtime kernel available for Maverick in the official repos or in Alessio's PPA (there may be some in another PPA, or course). They are available for Lucid, and it appears that -realtime and -lowlatency will be available for Natty, since people are actively working on those. Tim, these tests that we are running are for either Lucid or Natty. None are currently for Maverick. This is where the confusion lays. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Closed video drivers for -realtime kernels
On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: > Hi Ronan, > > 2010/10/10 Ronan Jouchet : > [...] > > I will also test the nvidia driver and report when I'm done. > > BTW Alessio I guess you meant -rt, not -realtime, am I right? > > No -realtime. I'll don't work on -rt any more. > > I don't like work on closed video drivers _but_ if there are *active* > people (from a Studio point of view) who request for these things I'm > happy to accommodate they needs. > > Ciao, > Alessio > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > Alessio, fglrx will now install without errors on -realtime, but X will not start. All I get is a blank screen. What commands should I run to get you the information you need? -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
Alright, here's my next go at it: http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/mock-up_simple_2.png I tried to add a little of all the designs we've seen so far. Think of this as the landing page, with the main site looking more along the lines of Scott's mock-up, except with a matching palette. Also, I decided to move away from the darker colors, just to see what it was like. All the links and examples are basically placeholders, and can be replaced by whatever. Let me know what you think. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Maverick -lowlatency and -realtime kernel dropped
On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 1:50 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: > Hi All, > > Since no one offer helps for these kernels on Maverick I'll drop > completely these, as promised, from my PPA in two days. > In any case Lucid packages of these kernel rest in place. > > Ciao, > Alessio > > Alessio, I have updated your Wiki page, if you wouldn't mind looking it over and making sure it is still accurate. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: DKMS and Wiki from real time kernels
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:09 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: > Brian, > > 2010/10/6 Brian David : > [...] > > Alessio, I can help testing any fixes for fglrx. > > Install fglx and send the output of this command: > cat /var/lib/dkms/*/*/build/make.log > > Here you go: DKMS make.log for fglrx-8.723.1 for kernel 2.6.33-29-realtime (i686) Thu Oct 7 23:37:36 CDT 2010 AMD kernel module generator version 2.1 cat: /lib/modules/2.6.33-29-realtime/build/include/linux/utsrelease.h: No such file or directory Error: kernel includes at /lib/modules/2.6.33-29-realtime/build/include do not match current kernel. they are versioned as "" instead of "2.6.33-29-realtime". you might need to adjust your symlinks: - /usr/include - /usr/src/linux -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Audio no longer feasible with vanilla Ubuntu + Studio packages (?)
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Ronan Jouchet wrote: > I forgot to mention I used the -lowlatency in both cases. > > On 10/07/2010 11:36 PM, Ronan Jouchet wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Today I did some ISO testing and here are the results: > > > > - Studio installed from ubuntustudio-alternate iso works fine. > > > > - Studio "installed" from ubuntu-desktop iso + ubuntustudio-audio > > metapackage is a disaster. Mountains of xruns even when doubling the > > latencies reached with no xruns on a studio install. While this has > > always led to a non-optimal result, it used to work and was good enough > > for many (like ttoine and I), with the advantage to stay close from a > > standard ubuntu install. > > Note: I did the usual setup in groups and limits.conf. > > > > Did I miss something or did something really change a lot between 10.04 > > and 10.10, making ubuntu+ubustu-metapackages a non-option? > > I like Ubuntu's package selection! I like the new font and desktop > > polish! I like having a standard install! I like network-manager even if > > it means losing 1ms latency! > > > > Thanks for your help :) > > > > -- ronj - http://ronj.bandcamp.com > > Have you tried disabling Network Manager applet while running audio (by right-clicking on the app and turning of networking)? You can then turn it back on once you are finished recording. If that works, it would mean you would not be able to have your Internet connection while running JACK. I have in the past had no problems with Network Manager on one version of Ubuntu, only to find that it caused a lot of trouble on the next release. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: DKMS and Wiki from real time kernels
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: > Hi All, > > 2010/10/5 Alessio Igor Bogani : > > I really need of someone could take care of a little wiki page about > > all real time kernels (differences, reasons, TODO, list of volunteers, > > packing status and so on). In this way new comers could find reply to > > their questions. > [...] > > Since no one have offered to handle a simple and single wiki page I > did it by myself. > Please take a minute to see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime > > Obviously feel free to officially assign yourself on something > changing accordingly above mentioned wiki page. ;) > > Thanks. > > Ciao, > Alessio > Alessio, I can help testing any fixes for fglrx. Also, in general, I would like to learn how to package, maintain and test an -rt kernel, as that is the ideal kernel to me and I wish to help keep it going. (I will update the wiki page with this change a little later) Also, I can do a little cleaning up of the writing on the wiki page. I have a quick question about that. When you write "The -preempt and -rt kernels are died, aren't it?" I'm not clear what the exact meaning is. Do you mean: "Have the -preempt and -rt kernels died?" [Perhaps meant as a rhetorical question i.e. this wiki page is going to answer that question] Also, when it is mentioned that there needs to be a solid FAQ, is that meant on just kernels in general, on just that wiki page, or for Ubuntu Studio in general? I ask because I am a decent writer and can work on stuff like that, as long as the info is available. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: DKMS and Wiki from real time kernels
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:42 AM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: > Hi All, > > 2010/10/5 Alessio Igor Bogani : > > I really need of someone could take care of a little wiki page about > > all real time kernels (differences, reasons, TODO, list of volunteers, > > packing status and so on). In this way new comers could find reply to > > their questions. > [...] > > Since no one have offered to handle a simple and single wiki page I > did it by myself. > Please take a minute to see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RealTime > > Obviously feel free to officially assign yourself on something > changing accordingly above mentioned wiki page. ;) > > Thanks. > > Ciao, > Alessio > Alessio, I can help testing any fixes for fglrx. Also, in general, I would like to learn how to package, maintain and test an -rt kernel, as that is the ideal kernel to me and I wish to help keep it going. (I will update the wiki page with this change a little later) Also, I can do a little cleaning up of the writing on the wiki page. I have a quick question about that. When you write "The -preempt and -rt kernels are died, aren't it?" I'm not clear what the exact meaning is. Do you mean: "Have the -preempt and -rt kernels died?" [Perhaps meant as a rhetorical question i.e. this wiki page is going to answer that question] Also, when it is mentioned that there needs to be a solid FAQ, is that meant on just kernels in general, on just that wiki page, or for Ubuntu Studio in general? I ask because I am a decent writer and can work on stuff like that, as long as the info is available. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Benjamin Turner < > passionsplaydes...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I hope to address some of the questions in this email later this week. > > Properly identifying the audience and the purpose of the website is > critical in order to make the website useful. I have given it quite a bit > of thought but haven't really devoted time to fleshing it out and writing it > down. > > However, in that fashion I have been working on this mock-up for the past > two weeks while exploring audience and purpose: > http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/website-mockup-3.png > > I trust that most people will find this mock-up far superior to my last one > ;) > > Comments are encouraged and welcomed (even ones that say it sucks). > > ScottL > > I'm liking the general direction this is headed. I would say that it looks a little busy. Also, I think using "Linux for Creative Humans" is better than "Set Your Creativity Free". I also don't care for the "Experience. . ." added to the Ubuntu Logo. Those are the initial thoughts that come to mind. Also, were you thinking there would be a gateway page, or would this be the page people see immediately upon going to ubuntustudio.com? Would you be able to send a link for the .svg? I'd like to try combining some of your ideas with the things I've been working on, and see what that might look like. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call (was "Natty and RT Kernel)
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: > > It is really hard pinpoint on something useful if you don't explain me > what do you would want learn. > Kernel programming? Test on latency and jitter corner case? Tips & > Tricks? What is the final objective do you want achieve? > Without that specification I couldn't suggest something. > > I would like to have reference for all of these things. I want to know about the whole process that you need to do to get an -rt kernel prepared. That is the goal: to make a good -rt kernel. That may sound broad, and that's because I don't even know were to start. I have know idea what particular issues I'd be interested in, and which ones I can best help on, because I don't know anything about the process. > > Since you asked about bugs in the -realtime kernel, I would like to say > that > > my desktop's ATI card has never worked with the -realtime kernel. It's a > > somewhat older card (Radeon 5000 series) that is not supported by the > open > > drivers, and so I need to use fglrx. > > I'll take care only of the bugs reported by active people(*) . Do you > want one of these? :) > > To clarify, are you asking if I want to report a bug? Or be an active member? I would like to be both. If you are asking if I want to report a bug, do you mean via Launchpad? See, this what I mean. I'm starting from an extreme point of ignorance here. Don't assume any prior knowledge. This is often a problem on lists like this. People will come in with earnest desires to help, and when they ask how they can start, they can get obtuse answers like 'start reporting bugs'. Reporting bugs where? And how? What's the most effective way to report bugs? Have you ever seen the posts on a Launchpad bug? They're confusing! What are those people doing? (yes, I am being a little goofy here) This is not meant to offend anyone, I just think that a lot of the more experienced users on the list, especially the ones who are asking for more support, don't genuinely know how they come across to beginners. I've been on this list for a while, and I have seen several people stop participating because they get what seems like rude behavior from people who are asking for their help (I do not mean that you are being rude, Alessio, because you are not. It's an overall observation.) Sometimes the rudeness is not intentional, it's just people giving an answer that they feel is adequate, when it is not. This a tough environment for beginners, and that's a problem when we are trying to recruit people. The best thing we can do to get more people on board is to figure out how to get them the information they need -- and be VERY detailed and nice about it. Sorry, that ended up being more long-winded than I expected. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Last call (was "Natty and RT Kernel)
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Alessio Igor Bogani wrote: > 2010/10/4 Alessio Igor Bogani : > > Do you know of some sort of bugs on that kernel? Are you using some > > closed video drivers (nvidia, fglrx, virtualbox, lirc, drbd, asterisk, > > bcmwl, r5u87xa and so on)? Do you plan to migrate to Maverick soon or > > remain stick on Lucid? Which arch are you using (i386 known as "32 > > bit" or amd64 known as > > 64 bit systems. > > Damn Italian keyboard! > > Ciao, > Alessio ~ passed to "topo chico" > > I would also ask that Alessio or anyone else who knows send links for how to learn this stuff. I'll spend some time today researching, but it would make things a little easier if people who know could just point us in the right direction. Since you asked about bugs in the -realtime kernel, I would like to say that my desktop's ATI card has never worked with the -realtime kernel. It's a somewhat older card (Radeon 5000 series) that is not supported by the open drivers, and so I need to use fglrx. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio Logo Designs
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:45 AM, Marc R.J. Brevoort wrote: > On Thu, 30 Sep 2010, Cory K. wrote: > > I think the grey/blue contrast in the first images doesn't work very well- > the second one being a bit better due to the black outline. I like the N > and T flowing into each other- I'd keep them the same colour to enhance > the effect. I like the big logo in the third picture- in the versions with > the smaller logo, the logo seems a bit "out of place" due to the way it's > aligned with the text. > > Overall I think Brian's version looks the most pro (We all love gradients > and rounded corners! Fortunately, they're not too over-the-top). > I don't get why two words in the slogan need a different shade but that's > probaby just me going "whoosh!". It's a bit "loud" image though- "...And > more! Download NOW (or else)!" > > I'll crawl back into my shell now... > > Best, > Marc > > The loudness was, to an extent, a bit of a joke. Since I was throwing in the text mostly as a placeholder, I couldn't help but get a little sarcastic (thus the ". . .and more!"). :) Looking at it now, I agree with your assessment of the highlighted words. I'll go back and make those uniform. Also, I think your remark about the gradients and rounded-corners hints a good point: it is the type of thing that gets done a lot. I'll see what other variations I can come up with that are based on the same basic idea, but maybe a little less "Web-2.0"-ish. It's always good to have options! -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio Logo Designs
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:01 PM, Cory K. wrote: > > On 09/29/2010 10:37 PM, Brian David wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Scott Lavender >wrote: > > > > I think the official font should be used. The "o" just feels so off. The > tagline should be: "Linux for creative Humans" Generally, I dig it but > needs work. > > I totally agree. Sadly, I actually hadn't realized that the official font is now available. I'll switch over to the real font the next time I work on it. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio Logo Designs
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: > Just playing with the Ubuntu Studio logo with the new fonts and branding > and thought I would share. > > http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/studiologo-twotone-1.png > > http://www.fossmusicproject.org/public/images/studiologo-twotone-2.png > > If anyone is interested I have others in my deviantart gallery: > http://scottalavender.deviantart.com/gallery/ > > Cheers, > ScottL > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > > I have also done my good Ubuntu deeds for the day! Not only did I do a run through of some of the Maverick test cases, but I have a mock-up of a potential "shiny button with simple layout" web page. You can see it here: http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/mock-up_simple.png You can get the svg here, if you'd like to mess around with it: http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/mock-up_simple.svg It's still a little rough, but I like it. Let me know what you think. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: > > Brian, > > * comic book sketch * > Your sketch is pretty cool. I like it. This is something that could be be > used for a GDM background or desktop wallpaper when completed. > > Personally, I would favour using user derived art and graphics (even music) > in a default Ubuntu Studio installation as long as it flowed well with the > accepted theme and art concept. > > * DIY theme * > Rather than deny an artistic concept with a blanket statement I would > suggest that we value any examples by their merits individually. I would > imagine that some DIY concepts might present themselves as unprofessional, > while others would extend themselves as hip or cool (LOL...does that make me > old to say that?) > > If someone has an mock-up then I would love to see it and evaluate it's > merits. > > * website wireframe * > I think it's awesome that you attached the image to the website revamp wiki > page: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskWebRevamp#Original%20vs%20Planned%20Site > : > > I would not feel compelled to follow the same layout as before, rather I > would encourage you to use a different layout. A few of points about > possible layouts I would like to make as well: > * minimize the branding height (even so much that only the top of the > letters for "Ubuntu Studio" is visible perhaps) > * use 2 columns (as a minimum) > * put download button (maybe "help" and "features walkthrough" too) inside > branding area > * keep as much above the red line as possible > > I downloaded the .svg file and have been playing with it. I hope to have > something in the coming days. > > I also note that the background image does not appear on my computer > because it was a linked image. Not that it really matters since I'll be > moving everything around anyways :P > > > Thanks again, Brain, for you involvement and initiative. > > ScottL > Just a quick note, I wasn't the person who put the wireframe up on the Wiki. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Louie Queral wrote: > Scott: If we made everything the DIY look, I think it would become too > cluttered and gimmicky. I think it should be clean and clear. I'm a > musician, and I look at US like a desk: I would rather have my desk be a > solid color, with no blemishes to help me think and finish my project. If my > desk was cluttered and "grungy" looking, I think it would be very counter > productive. > > Mike: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Artwork/DIYConcept > > On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Scott Lavender > wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Louie Queral >> wrote: >> >>> This is off-topic, but still, in my mind, a relatively important point. >>> >>> I really don't like the DIY theme for either the OS as a whole or US's >>> website. I think that it makes it look a bit too unprofessional and it may >>> detract people from using US. >>> >>> Would anyone agree? >>> >>> >> Are you saying what we currently have is unprofessional or if we changed >> everything to a DIY theme it would be unprofessional? >> >> I actually got a job pretty quick and started last Monday, so I don't have the free time I expected. Still, I've got something to show you all. Here's a sketch I did of what I think of when I refer to 'comic book' style, as opposed to the cell-shaded Borderlands look seen on the Wiki: http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/sketch_01_thumb.png The logo is based off Cory's, though it is still using my font imitation, so the 'o' is different. Imagine this properly inked and colored, and you get the idea. This particular image would probably be more useful for a Plymouth splash or GTK theme as opposed to website imagery, but I think it gets the point across. Also, I don't think the DIY idea needs to look cluttered or gimmicky. Take a look at the graphic in the upper left of Mozilla's site: http://www.mozilla.org/ That conveys a DIY feel, with the paint strokes, but still looks simple and slick. I'll try to come up with a mock-up of the more simple, shiny slick button theme in a few days. Let me know what you all think. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Putting the cart before the horse. (was: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website)
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Scott Lavender wrote: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Cory K. wrote: > >> What *needs* to be settled 1st before *anything* should be put together >> is: Audience - Who we're talking to. >> >> It's a major first step from which everything is built. >> >> If Scott hasn't already done it, he should start a wiki page outlining >> our audiance and new direction. Aesthetic/stylistic guidelines can be >> developed from there. This needs to be managed by him as he's the >> current lead. >> >> Also, doing anything for 10.10 should be abandoned. It's just too late >> in the cycle and rushing things now will show in the final product. A >> good concerted effort for Natty is best IMO. >> >> >> -Cory K. >> >> > Okay, I've updated the website revamp website to include an area for > audience and themes: > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskWebRevamp > > Please update the website with more examples or further thoughts as > appropriate. > > Thank you, > ScottL > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > > So, about this 'target audience' thing: I don't know if we want to make 'familiarity with Linux' a main attribute. Sure, anyone who wants to use UbuStu will need to learn Linux, but we shouldn't assume any initial knowledge. Let's not forget that this is Ubuntu, a distro that has branded itself as the most easy-to-use. We are looking to bring people into the fold who perhaps have always wanted to try Linux, but were too intimidated by the learning curve. These people might be interested because: -They support community-developed projects, and align with the ideals of things like GPL, Creative Commons, etc. -Are unhappy with the state of 'industry standard' software Now, I do agree that the target audience should already have some kind of proficiency in their field, whether it is music or graphics. These people will want professional, alternative software, but they won't want to spend a lot of down time converting. Therefore, Ubuntu Studio should do what it can to work out-of-the-box, and for those things which the user absolutely must fix themselves, then there should be plenty of easily available documentation/tutorials to help them through. Just my thoughts. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Final Notes on the Ubuntu Studio Website (It gets done here!)
On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Louie Queral wrote: > we've had tons of ideas thrown back and forth, we just need to all > collectively agree on these different ideas. Things like the layout, design, > and content of the site are all things we should come up with a conclusion > for sooner than later. > >> >> Been a very long day, going to be a bit short with this email. >> >> @ Cory - Right. I agree, keep all the info here, not only is it in one >> place, people are already here, and it's archived for everyone to see. >> >> @beejunk - Hey thanks! Yes you can really help. I like the links you >> already posted and I really look forward to seeing your portfolio. If you >> can work up some ideas for the Ubuntu Studio site that would be great also. >> Rough mock ups would be cool, anything tangible. You can see the rough site >> map here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/TaskWebRevamp >> >> Also, if I gave you some ideas for art do you think you could turn that >> into reality? >> >> @louie & Chris - I really appreciate your enthusiasm and tenacity, however >> I think we need more ideas, examples, and mock-ups rather than designating >> positions and creating separate forums. Not trying to be an arse, just >> straightforward and honest. >> >> ScottL >> >> >> -- >> Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list >> Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel >> >> > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > > I agree that we should keep all the development on this list. It will make things easier. Scott, I would definitely be able to work from any ideas you throw at me. My 'original' output is unpredictable. I do get good ideas, but they tend to strike randomly, so if I needed to come up with a design by scratch it could take me weeks. However, I would be able to take the already proposed layout ideas, as well as ideas on an overall theme, and build from there. Speaking of themes, it seems all we've got so far is Cory K's logo theme, as well as some simple layout mock-ups. It also seems that everyone would like to see something 'simple'. What else would people like to see, in terms of atmosphere? For example, should it looks slick with all the shiny button stuff that's all over the place these days, or should we go for something entirely different? Say, a punk DIY look, or a stylized comic book-like theme? It really doesn't matter, just curious what you all think. Finally, how does one go about getting access to the site? For instance, if I were to set up a new theme, I'd need access to the 'user 1' account, or some account with appropriate privileges. I'd also need FTP access of some sort. What is the policy for this? -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: The audio group
On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > I know I've raised the question before regarding the inclusion of the > real-time kernel in Ubuntu Studio, but why exactly is it necessary? > > > Regards > > > -- > Chris Jones > > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > The short answer is, the real-time kernel will decrease the latency for audio applications, thus reducing x-runs. Your mileage will vary, of course. Some computers are unusable for audio without the RT kernel, others really don't need it. The RT kernel tends to be unpredictable (which is why it is no longer the standard Ubuntu Studio kernel), so it is recommended that you use it only if the generic kernel (or specialized variants) does not give you good enough performance. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: (re)Developing the Ubuntu Studio Site
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Cory K. wrote: > On 08/31/2010 09:32 PM, louiethecu...@gmail.com wrote: > > Do we need to use drupal, I feel like something much better and simpler > could be accomplished with wordpress > > > > Well, speaking for myself (as Scott really has the say here) I'm for > whatever looks best. I couldn't care about the tech underneath. Where it > *does* come into play is whether we stay w/Canonical as a host or find > our own. We stay w/Canonical, Drupal it is. > > > -Cory K. > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > I have no experience with Wordpress, but I have done a lot of work with Drupal. It can have a steep learning curve, but the amount of versatility, security, and third party modules available make it well worth it. It essentially has no limitations, and doesn't box you in by trying to make things 'easier'. I would recommend it. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: (re)Developing the Ubuntu Studio Site
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 06:06 -0400, Cory K. wrote: > > > > > > > So, do you have any? It's what I've been asking about for 3 posts now. > > > > *Layout* work is fine. I'd like to see what you've done on top of all > > that with past work. After all, *that's* what folks will see and asking > > to see what else you've done isn't unreasonable. ;) > > > > > > -Cory K. > > > > > > Well I don't believe you've straight out asked yet? If you did, you have > a strange way of asking... > > Besides, I don't have any current examples of my previous web work due > to the projects either being temporary, shut-down or replaced by a newer > website which I have/had nothing to do with regarding development. > > Also, how is all that relevant to this project? What I've done > previously has nothing to do with this website redevelopment project. > > Regards > > > -- > Chris Jones > > I can tell you from experience that Cory K can come across as a bit blunt, but it's nothing to take personally. It seems all he wants to see is some examples of past work, any examples, to gauge what level of technical experience you have. There have been volunteers for this stuff before who turned out to basically have no idea what they were talking about, so it's not an unreasonable thing to ask. As these discussions keep going, remember: tone doesn't translate over the Internet. No one should take offense to anything anyone says, and everyone should try to be as clear with their expectations as possible. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Maverick Art refresh. [logo]
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Cory K. wrote: > On 08/29/2010 02:45 PM, Brian David wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Cory K. wrote: > > > >> I have been tinkering with ideas for Maverick's theme and logo. I > figured > >> I mention it now since it will have to tie in with a new site. > >> > >> I'll post the theme once I have some issues worked out but for now > here's > >> my 1st run of logo ideas. > >> > >> > >> - Simple layout: > http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8725/simplet.png > >> - w/tagline and some possible detail: > >> http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9650/tagline.png > >> > >> > >> *NOTE* Both of these are early but are the general direction I'm going > in. > >> > > I like these. How about having the CoF replace the 'o' in Studio? That > > might be kind of slick. Where it's currently placed contrasts a bit > weirdly > > with the 'i'. When I look at it, my mind wants to make the CoF the dot > for > > the 'i'. Just some thoughts. > > > > Please don't top-post. In Gmail, just move the cursor below the quoted > text. Thanx. :) > > Ha! Sorry, I thought I had gotten good at remembering to do that. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Maverick Art refresh. [logo]
I like these. How about having the CoF replace the 'o' in Studio? That might be kind of slick. Where it's currently placed contrasts a bit weirdly with the 'i'. When I look at it, my mind wants to make the CoF the dot for the 'i'. Just some thoughts. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Cory K. wrote: > I have been tinkering with ideas for Maverick's theme and logo. I figured > I mention it now since it will have to tie in with a new site. > > I'll post the theme once I have some issues worked out but for now here's > my 1st run of logo ideas. > > >- Simple layout: http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8725/simplet.png >- w/tagline and some possible detail: >http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9650/tagline.png > > > *NOTE* Both of these are early but are the general direction I'm going in. > > > -Cory K. > <http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8725/simplet.png> > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > > -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Help testing the backporting of qjackctl to lucid
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:15 PM, wrote: > On Jul 22, 2010 8:50am, Janne Jokitalo wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I've prepared a backport of qjackctl 0.3.6-1 from maverick to lucid, and > it's > > > > available in my PPA[0]. > > > > > > > > Currently we're hoping to get at least three (3) testers who can confirm > that > > > > the new package works, and defeats the "port renames are ignored" bug[1]. > Can > > > > you be one of those people? > > > > > > > > All you gotta do is check this bug[2] for instructions, and comment on > the bug > > > > of your results. More details can be found on #ubuntu-studio-devel @ > > > > irc.ubuntu.com. > > > > > > > > Thank you for your participation! > > > > > > > > [0] > > https://launchpad.net/~astraljava/+archive/lucid<https://launchpad.net/%7Eastraljava/+archive/lucid> > > > > [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/490436 > > > > [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/607914 > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jaska aka astraljava > > > > I tested and replied. > > Hope some others can assist as well :) > > ScottL > I also just tested and posted a reply. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio Art
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 5:06 AM, Chris Jones wrote: > I have not yet seen any artwork? Did I miss something? > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel> I think some of these threads are getting mixed up between the users and dev list. . . Anyway, I believe he's referring to these images I posted in response to his suggestion for "Made with Ubuntu Studio" buttons: http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/made_with_ubuntu_studio_fancy.png http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/made_with_ubuntu_studio_simple.png http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/made_with_ubuntu_studio_gray.png http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/made_with_ubuntu_studio_reflect.png Thanks for the kinds words. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork proposal
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 6:43 PM, C K wrote: > > I've been trying to stay away from putting my 2 cents so things can > just develop. I gotta say a little bit now. ;) > > I can most likely get the letters to make our logo text from the guys > @ Canonical. The font is still under development. *If* it is decided > that the new font is used for our text as well, I believe our COF will > need a more angular revamp to fit this new type style. > > The effort around the "Made with Ubuntu" idea is cool, but I wanna say > it would be nice to see someone step up and revamp the studio art. > > > -- > -Cory K. > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > Here's a another one, with reflections, since people seem to like those: http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/made_with_ubuntu_studio_reflect.png Good to hear from you again, Cory. I would love to revamp the studio artwork. Do you have any links to some documentation on creating a theme, particularly with Plymouth? I can Google it, and probably will, but it might save me some time if you point me in the right direction. It would be awesome to get a hold of the current Lucid font, because I think it looks good. I'd disagree with changing the COF to fit the font, though. I'm fond of the Ubuntu Studio COF. Of course, if people prefer that it'd be changed, then so be it. I'm new to this type of thing, so how would be the best way to go about it? Should I start by submitting some sketches/mock-ups and see if the community approves? -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork proposal
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Ricardo Lameiro wrote: > I think that the "made with" could use a diferent Font thant ubuntu. > Also have you tried the new Ubuntu fonts? > Also you can give a little more space between the letters and the border. > other than that i like it. > > > As far as I know, the new Ubuntu font is not yet available. Here's my contribution. I tried my best to imitate the Lucid font, and even added a bit of the Lucid purple in there. There are three pics: a fancy color version; a simple color version; and a gray one similar to the Mac image linked above. I've also added a link to the tar.gz file that has the Inkscape svgs, in case anyone cares to mess around around with them: http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/made_with_ubuntu_studio_fancy.png http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/made_with_ubuntu_studio_simple.png http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/made_with_ubuntu_studio_gray.png http://www.sunmachine.coop/ubuntu/made_with_ubuntu_studio.tar.gz -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: Ubuntu Studio artwork proposal
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > Amazing. All the users who use Ubuntu Studio, yet nobody has the skills to > actually use it for its intended purpose and design some cool community > artwork. Kind of ironic. > > Regards > > > -- > Chris Jones > Photographic Imaging Professional and Graphic Designer > ABN: 98 317 740 240 > > Photo Resolutions - Photo Printing, Editing and Restorations > Web: http://photoresolutions.freehostia.com > Email: > > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > > I was looking for the link to the artwork you had made for the community, but can't seem to find it. Would you mind reposting it again? -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: UbuntuStudio controls redesign
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Fritz Meissner wrote: > On 30 March 2010 06:17, Brian David wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Fritz Meissner < > meissner.fr...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Secondly, I have recently seen rather exasperated comments (from > >> someone that I respect as an authority) that the mystique surrounding > >> "nice" settings is misplaced and that it has virtually nothing to do > >> with audio performance. If this is the case, then should that setting > >> not be removed from the Controls ? > > > > > I'd be interested to hear these comments, because from my understanding, > > niceness has a lot to do with audio performance. Or, more generally, it > has > > a lot to with the performance of any process. By setting the niceness of > > programs run by users in the Audio group to -19, you are letting the > kernel > > know that those programs take precedence over most others when deciding > how > > to allocate CPU resources. How would this not help performance? If this > is > > misguided, then it would definitely be good to know. > > > > -- > > -Brian David > > > > Brian, > > The comments I was remembering are in the following two posts on the > Linux Audio User mailing list : > > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2009-November/064820.html > > http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-user/2009-November/064828.html > > I don't have the expertise to evaluate them, but there are enough > knowledgeable people on LAU that I would have expected the comments to > be shot down if they were out of line (they weren't). > > I noticed in those posts that they regard rtprio as the critical > setting - should this be included in Studio Controls ? > > Fritz > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > Hard to argue with Paul Davis. :) Okay, so it's good to hear that Studio Control should eventually be able to configure the rtprio settings. Something that I am always needing to do on my Ubuntu Studio systems is manually setting the priorities of certain real-time threads (as described on this page: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Low_latency_howto, down at the Thread Priorities section. Coincidentally one of the many pages that suggests adjusting the nice settings). Without doing this, I get an unusable amount of x-runs with the rt-kernel, and it works wonderfully after they are set. Can Ubuntu Studio Controls be made to set these thread priorities? That would be lovely. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
Re: UbuntuStudio controls redesign
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Fritz Meissner wrote: > On 29 March 2010 19:51, Ricardo Lameiro wrote: > > Hello everyone. > > I had some ideas growing about the ubuntustudio controls. to make it more > > easy to work with and expand it. > > > > I made some sketch about it > > the Inkskape SVG link > https://files.one.ubuntu.com/q19pn6SnQ8W3SuEIVr2QfA > > The PDF version https://files.one.ubuntu.com/XG8iE4f-SPy04uiFb9EFPw > > > Ricardo, I can't manage to login download those files, even though I > have a Launchpad account. Not sure why. However, I had recently had > some thoughts about Ubuntu Studio Controls myself. > > Firstly, I think that it should have a help button that gives some > guidance on what the controls do, and what would by appropriate > settings for typical setups. My experience is that many users > (including myself) have little knowledge of this, and misinformation > is so widespread that it is difficult to educate oneself. Having at > least basic explanations that are reliable would help to prevent the > problems that people have which are not caused by Studio (which would > probably work fine if left on the default settings) but by people > getting the settings wrong. > > Secondly, I have recently seen rather exasperated comments (from > someone that I respect as an authority) that the mystique surrounding > "nice" settings is misplaced and that it has virtually nothing to do > with audio performance. If this is the case, then should that setting > not be removed from the Controls ? > > Fritz > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel > I'd be interested to hear these comments, because from my understanding, niceness has a lot to do with audio performance. Or, more generally, it has a lot to with the performance of any process. By setting the niceness of programs run by users in the Audio group to -19, you are letting the kernel know that those programs take precedence over most others when deciding how to allocate CPU resources. How would this not help performance? If this is misguided, then it would definitely be good to know. -- -Brian David -- Ubuntu-Studio-devel mailing list Ubuntu-Studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
