Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 17:38 -0500, Joseph Ronne wrote:
 Tried 'start page' ..  for Zimboanga it gives ads and zero
 information.. a pretty poor showing as a search engine

About 10 results with family filter enabled, the same with family filter
disabled.

The advantage of Google might be this:

Showing results for Zamboanga
Search instead for Zimboanga

However Google found 0 hits for Zimboanga, that are 10 hits less than
Start Page found here.



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 08:11 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 17:38 -0500, Joseph Ronne wrote:
  Tried 'start page' ..  for Zimboanga it gives ads and zero
  information.. a pretty poor showing as a search engine
 
 About 10 results with family filter enabled, the same with family filter
 disabled.
 
 The advantage of Google might be this:
 
 Showing results for Zamboanga
 Search instead for Zimboanga
 
 However Google found 0 hits for Zimboanga, that are 10 hits less than
 Start Page found here.

Btw. 3 adds here and several non-ads hits and I missed that it also asks
for Zamboanga.

About 10 results (0.08 seconds)
Did you mean: Zamboanga Bookmark this search

Any time
Past 24 hours
Past week
Past month
Past year

NEW!
Search tools
(change settings)

Ads related to ZimboangaSee your ad here...
Zamboanga City Philippines - chatabout.com

www.chatabout.com/Philippines

Chat About Zamboanga City Philippines. Join The Discussion Right Here!
Zamboanga Videos - travideos.com

www.travideos.com/zamboanga

Videos, clips, movies, tv shows and more zamboanga videos!
Zamboanga Website - everything.org.uk

www.everything.org.uk/Zamboanga

Discuss everthing to do with Zamboanga
Aid to the Church in Need's Blog | An International Catholic charity ...

churchinneed.wordpress.com - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

12 Sep 2013 ... The second headline is about the city of Zimboanga in
the Philippines. In that city of more than one million people, an
extremist Islamic ...
Jersey City Police Investigate Alleged Sexual Assault Of Woman By ...

newyork.cbslocal.com/ 2012/ 01/ 05/
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- View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

5 Jan 2012 ... “That's very, very scary, and that makes us to be more
alert,” said Marie Zimboanga, the victim's neighbor. The attacker is
described as Hispanic ...
Samsung UE22D5003 22 Inch Full HD 1080p Freeview LED TV ...

reviews.argos.co.uk/1493-en_gb/5298752/reviews.htm - View by Ixquick
Proxy - Highlight

Zimboanga. Described as Full HD but lacking the Freeview HD tuner so
the best reception is much less sharp than 1080 HD unless additional
components are ...
DURIAN - THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY - RFCA Archives

rfcarchives.org.au/Next/Fruits/Durian/DurianOtherSide3-92.htm - View by
Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

The rare and exotic durian has long been sought out by rare fruit
enthusiasts as one of the best fruits in the tropical world. Yet like so
much in life, there is another  ...
Annual Report 2009 - World Scout Foundation

www.worldscoutfoundation.org/ sites/ default/ files/
Annual_Report_2009.pdf - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

The same dawn breaks over Zimboanga, Mindanao warming an acrid, fetid
stench in a garbage dump. Flies swarm like a black mist over rotting
swill. Already, in ...
Gewelddadige confrontatie op Mindanao, Filipijnen | MO*

www.mo.be/artikel/gewelddadige-confrontatie-op-mindanao-filipijnen -
View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

13 sept 2013 ... Maandag viel het Moro National Liberation Front MNLF
Zimboanga City binnen, ze wilden hun vlag op het stadhuis daar hangen.
Toen dat ...
UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE ... - Health.mil

www.health.mil/dhb/downloads/060810-DHB_final.pdf - View by Ixquick
Proxy - Highlight

8 Jun 2010 ... 10 Western Medano Command in Zimboanga, the. 11
Philippines. Its partnership with representatives. 12 from the Peace and
Conflict Network ...
Idioma chabacano - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idioma_chabacano - View by Ixquick Proxy -
Highlight

El chabacano es una lengua criolla de Filipinas y parte de Malasia e
Indonesia, derivada del español. Se habla en las provincias de
Zamboanga, Zamboanga ...
Triângulo Dourado: Julho 2010

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Proxy - Highlight

28 jul. 2010 ... Enviada por ZIMBOANGA. Tamanho:369Mb. Àudio: Portugues.
Formato: DVDRIP. Qualidade audio:10. Qualidade video:10. Download:.
zamboanga.com - Push2Check.com

www.push2check.net/zamboanga.com - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

22 Mar 2010 ... zamb0anga.com xamboanga.com zamboangay.com
4zamboanga.com aamboanga.com zimboanga.com 9zamboanga.com zamboanga6.com
To show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very
similar to the search results already displayed.
If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results
included.

Ads related to ZimboangaSee your ad here...
Zamboanga City Philippines - chatabout.com

www.chatabout.com/Philippines

Chat About Zamboanga City Philippines. Join The Discussion Right Here!
Zamboanga Videos - travideos.com

www.travideos.com/zamboanga

Videos, clips, movies, tv shows and more zamboanga videos!
Zamboanga Website - everything.org.uk

www.everything.org.uk/Zamboanga

Discuss everthing to do with Zamboanga




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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-21 Thread Joseph Ronne
thanks .. works nice after resetting a search parameter



On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote:

 On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 08:11 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 17:38 -0500, Joseph Ronne wrote:
   Tried 'start page' ..  for Zimboanga it gives ads and zero
   information.. a pretty poor showing as a search engine
 
  About 10 results with family filter enabled, the same with family filter
  disabled.
 
  The advantage of Google might be this:
 
  Showing results for Zamboanga
  Search instead for Zimboanga
 
  However Google found 0 hits for Zimboanga, that are 10 hits less than
  Start Page found here.

 Btw. 3 adds here and several non-ads hits and I missed that it also asks
 for Zamboanga.

 About 10 results (0.08 seconds)
 Did you mean: Zamboanga Bookmark this search

 Any time
 Past 24 hours
 Past week
 Past month
 Past year

 NEW!
 Search tools
 (change settings)

 Ads related to ZimboangaSee your ad here...
 Zamboanga City Philippines - chatabout.com

 www.chatabout.com/Philippines

 Chat About Zamboanga City Philippines. Join The Discussion Right Here!
 Zamboanga Videos - travideos.com

 www.travideos.com/zamboanga

 Videos, clips, movies, tv shows and more zamboanga videos!
 Zamboanga Website - everything.org.uk

 www.everything.org.uk/Zamboanga

 Discuss everthing to do with Zamboanga
 Aid to the Church in Need's Blog | An International Catholic charity ...

 churchinneed.wordpress.com - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

 12 Sep 2013 ... The second headline is about the city of Zimboanga in
 the Philippines. In that city of more than one million people, an
 extremist Islamic ...
 Jersey City Police Investigate Alleged Sexual Assault Of Woman By ...

 newyork.cbslocal.com/ 2012/ 01/ 05/
 police-fake-public-utility-workers-sexually-assault-jersey-city-woman /
 - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

 5 Jan 2012 ... “That's very, very scary, and that makes us to be more
 alert,” said Marie Zimboanga, the victim's neighbor. The attacker is
 described as Hispanic ...
 Samsung UE22D5003 22 Inch Full HD 1080p Freeview LED TV ...

 reviews.argos.co.uk/1493-en_gb/5298752/reviews.htm - View by Ixquick
 Proxy - Highlight

 Zimboanga. Described as Full HD but lacking the Freeview HD tuner so
 the best reception is much less sharp than 1080 HD unless additional
 components are ...
 DURIAN - THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY - RFCA Archives

 rfcarchives.org.au/Next/Fruits/Durian/DurianOtherSide3-92.htm - View by
 Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

 The rare and exotic durian has long been sought out by rare fruit
 enthusiasts as one of the best fruits in the tropical world. Yet like so
 much in life, there is another  ...
 Annual Report 2009 - World Scout Foundation

 www.worldscoutfoundation.org/ sites/ default/ files/
 Annual_Report_2009.pdf - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

 The same dawn breaks over Zimboanga, Mindanao warming an acrid, fetid
 stench in a garbage dump. Flies swarm like a black mist over rotting
 swill. Already, in ...
 Gewelddadige confrontatie op Mindanao, Filipijnen | MO*

 www.mo.be/artikel/gewelddadige-confrontatie-op-mindanao-filipijnen -
 View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

 13 sept 2013 ... Maandag viel het Moro National Liberation Front MNLF
 Zimboanga City binnen, ze wilden hun vlag op het stadhuis daar hangen.
 Toen dat ...
 UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE ... - Health.mil

 www.health.mil/dhb/downloads/060810-DHB_final.pdf - View by Ixquick
 Proxy - Highlight

 8 Jun 2010 ... 10 Western Medano Command in Zimboanga, the. 11
 Philippines. Its partnership with representatives. 12 from the Peace and
 Conflict Network ...
 Idioma chabacano - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre

 https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idioma_chabacano - View by Ixquick Proxy -
 Highlight

 El chabacano es una lengua criolla de Filipinas y parte de Malasia e
 Indonesia, derivada del español. Se habla en las provincias de
 Zamboanga, Zamboanga ...
 Triângulo Dourado: Julho 2010

 triangulo-dourado.blogspot.com/2010_07_01_archive.html - View by Ixquick
 Proxy - Highlight

 28 jul. 2010 ... Enviada por ZIMBOANGA. Tamanho:369Mb. Àudio: Portugues.
 Formato: DVDRIP. Qualidade audio:10. Qualidade video:10. Download:.
 zamboanga.com - Push2Check.com

 www.push2check.net/zamboanga.com - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

 22 Mar 2010 ... zamb0anga.com xamboanga.com zamboangay.com
 4zamboanga.com aamboanga.com zimboanga.com 9zamboanga.com zamboanga6.com
 To show you the most relevant results, we have omitted some entries very
 similar to the search results already displayed.
 If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results
 included.

 Ads related to ZimboangaSee your ad here...
 Zamboanga City Philippines - chatabout.com

 www.chatabout.com/Philippines

 Chat About Zamboanga City Philippines. Join The Discussion Right Here!
 Zamboanga Videos - travideos.com

 www.travideos.com/zamboanga

 Videos, clips, movies, tv shows and more 

Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-21 Thread Pete Wright
Monster crawler:   http://monstercrawler.com/ gives spartan but useful
results distilled from main engines.
Duckduckgo:  https://duckduckgo.com/   also claims privacy, gives decent
results

But (dare I say it?) richest result seemed to be from Bing (and this
morning it also gave me a wonderful picture of an Australian frog, free
with my order, no extra charge. Privacy? Not so much; like Google, it even
returns results from my Evernote account and probably my sock drawer. Life
is full of trade-offs.
Grins
Pete


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote:

 On Sat, 2013-09-21 at 08:11 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 17:38 -0500, Joseph Ronne wrote:
   Tried 'start page' ..  for Zimboanga it gives ads and zero
   information.. a pretty poor showing as a search engine
 
  About 10 results with family filter enabled, the same with family filter
  disabled.
 
  The advantage of Google might be this:
 
  Showing results for Zamboanga
  Search instead for Zimboanga
 
  However Google found 0 hits for Zimboanga, that are 10 hits less than
  Start Page found here.

 Btw. 3 adds here and several non-ads hits and I missed that it also asks
 for Zamboanga.

 About 10 results (0.08 seconds)
 Did you mean: Zamboanga Bookmark this search

 Any time
 Past 24 hours
 Past week
 Past month
 Past year

 NEW!
 Search tools
 (change settings)

 Ads related to ZimboangaSee your ad here...
 Zamboanga City Philippines - chatabout.com

 www.chatabout.com/Philippines

 Chat About Zamboanga City Philippines. Join The Discussion Right Here!
 Zamboanga Videos - travideos.com

 www.travideos.com/zamboanga

 Videos, clips, movies, tv shows and more zamboanga videos!
 Zamboanga Website - everything.org.uk

 www.everything.org.uk/Zamboanga

 Discuss everthing to do with Zamboanga
 Aid to the Church in Need's Blog | An International Catholic charity ...

 churchinneed.wordpress.com - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

 12 Sep 2013 ... The second headline is about the city of Zimboanga in
 the Philippines. In that city of more than one million people, an
 extremist Islamic ...
 Jersey City Police Investigate Alleged Sexual Assault Of Woman By ...

 newyork.cbslocal.com/ 2012/ 01/ 05/
 police-fake-public-utility-workers-sexually-assault-jersey-city-woman /
 - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

 5 Jan 2012 ... “That's very, very scary, and that makes us to be more
 alert,” said Marie Zimboanga, the victim's neighbor. The attacker is
 described as Hispanic ...
 Samsung UE22D5003 22 Inch Full HD 1080p Freeview LED TV ...

 reviews.argos.co.uk/1493-en_gb/5298752/reviews.htm - View by Ixquick
 Proxy - Highlight

 Zimboanga. Described as Full HD but lacking the Freeview HD tuner so
 the best reception is much less sharp than 1080 HD unless additional
 components are ...
 DURIAN - THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY - RFCA Archives

 rfcarchives.org.au/Next/Fruits/Durian/DurianOtherSide3-92.htm - View by
 Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

 The rare and exotic durian has long been sought out by rare fruit
 enthusiasts as one of the best fruits in the tropical world. Yet like so
 much in life, there is another  ...
 Annual Report 2009 - World Scout Foundation

 www.worldscoutfoundation.org/ sites/ default/ files/
 Annual_Report_2009.pdf - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

 The same dawn breaks over Zimboanga, Mindanao warming an acrid, fetid
 stench in a garbage dump. Flies swarm like a black mist over rotting
 swill. Already, in ...
 Gewelddadige confrontatie op Mindanao, Filipijnen | MO*

 www.mo.be/artikel/gewelddadige-confrontatie-op-mindanao-filipijnen -
 View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

 13 sept 2013 ... Maandag viel het Moro National Liberation Front MNLF
 Zimboanga City binnen, ze wilden hun vlag op het stadhuis daar hangen.
 Toen dat ...
 UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE ... - Health.mil

 www.health.mil/dhb/downloads/060810-DHB_final.pdf - View by Ixquick
 Proxy - Highlight

 8 Jun 2010 ... 10 Western Medano Command in Zimboanga, the. 11
 Philippines. Its partnership with representatives. 12 from the Peace and
 Conflict Network ...
 Idioma chabacano - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre

 https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idioma_chabacano - View by Ixquick Proxy -
 Highlight

 El chabacano es una lengua criolla de Filipinas y parte de Malasia e
 Indonesia, derivada del español. Se habla en las provincias de
 Zamboanga, Zamboanga ...
 Triângulo Dourado: Julho 2010

 triangulo-dourado.blogspot.com/2010_07_01_archive.html - View by Ixquick
 Proxy - Highlight

 28 jul. 2010 ... Enviada por ZIMBOANGA. Tamanho:369Mb. Àudio: Portugues.
 Formato: DVDRIP. Qualidade audio:10. Qualidade video:10. Download:.
 zamboanga.com - Push2Check.com

 www.push2check.net/zamboanga.com - View by Ixquick Proxy - Highlight

 22 Mar 2010 ... zamb0anga.com xamboanga.com zamboangay.com
 4zamboanga.com aamboanga.com zimboanga.com 9zamboanga.com zamboanga6.com
 To show you the most relevant results, we 

Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 10:39 +0200, reSet Sakrecoer wrote:
 What is inside that tar.gz file? doubleclick it and see if you find
 some .deb file. Then mostlikley you just need to unpack the tar.gz
 file and double click it.

It's irrelevant what's inside the tar.gz, since all major distros,
including the official Ubuntu repositories used by Ubuntu Studio, do
provide the last version of Adobe's flash player.

NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux
as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security
backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux. -
http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

However the tar.gz doesn't include a .deb, it would be nonsense to pack
a .deb, but its contend mainly is the libflashplayer.so and a readme
file. There are different things you can do with this lib. If somebody
don't understand what to do with the lib and .deb wouldn't be available,
than alien likely could make a .deb from the provided .rpm.

9/10/2013 – [snip] The latest versions are 11.8.800.174 (Win IE),
11.8.800.168 (Win non-IE), 11.8.800.168 (Mac) and 11.2.202.310 (Linux).
All users are encouraged to update to these latest versions. -
http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html

Even with the Linux flash player installed, websites likely will nag
that you should downlaod current version of flash. Again, use Chrome
instead or another alternative would be to run Windows browsers using
wine or a virtual machine with a Windows guest.

The best thing to do, is to ignore home pages that need flash player for
flashy effects or to play videos with advertisements and/or proprietary
codecs, all the rest, e.g. playing YouTube videos, can be done with
HTML5.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-20 Thread Pete Wright
Thanks, all.
Good to hear that things are as automatic as I had come to believe.
I generally ignore everything Adobe, and would have this time, but the nag
came from the Mozilla folks, and I tend to trust them.
Again, thanks to all for the guidance.
This is a great group.
cheers
Pete


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote:

 On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 10:39 +0200, reSet Sakrecoer wrote:
  What is inside that tar.gz file? doubleclick it and see if you find
  some .deb file. Then mostlikley you just need to unpack the tar.gz
  file and double click it.

 It's irrelevant what's inside the tar.gz, since all major distros,
 including the official Ubuntu repositories used by Ubuntu Studio, do
 provide the last version of Adobe's flash player.

 NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux
 as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security
 backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux. -
 http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

 However the tar.gz doesn't include a .deb, it would be nonsense to pack
 a .deb, but its contend mainly is the libflashplayer.so and a readme
 file. There are different things you can do with this lib. If somebody
 don't understand what to do with the lib and .deb wouldn't be available,
 than alien likely could make a .deb from the provided .rpm.

 9/10/2013 – [snip] The latest versions are 11.8.800.174 (Win IE),
 11.8.800.168 (Win non-IE), 11.8.800.168 (Mac) and 11.2.202.310 (Linux).
 All users are encouraged to update to these latest versions. -
 http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html

 Even with the Linux flash player installed, websites likely will nag
 that you should downlaod current version of flash. Again, use Chrome
 instead or another alternative would be to run Windows browsers using
 wine or a virtual machine with a Windows guest.

 The best thing to do, is to ignore home pages that need flash player for
 flashy effects or to play videos with advertisements and/or proprietary
 codecs, all the rest, e.g. playing YouTube videos, can be done with
 HTML5.

 Regards,
 Ralf


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-20 Thread leo
[Ralf wrote]:

 The best thing to do, is to ignore home pages that need flash player for
flashy effects or to play videos with advertisements and/or proprietary
codecs, all the rest, e.g. playing YouTube videos, can be done with
HTML5.

My question: How do I set up for to playYouTube with HTML5 rather than Adobe 
Flash Player then?

Regards, Leo Newburn




 From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net
To: ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:44 AM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe
 

On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 10:39 +0200, reSet Sakrecoer wrote:
 What is inside that tar.gz file? doubleclick it and see if you find
 some .deb file. Then mostlikley you just need to unpack the tar.gz
 file and double click it.

It's irrelevant what's inside the tar.gz, since all major distros,
including the official Ubuntu repositories used by Ubuntu Studio, do
provide the last version of Adobe's flash player.

NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux
as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security
backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux. -
http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

However the tar.gz doesn't include a .deb, it would be nonsense to pack
a .deb, but its contend mainly is the libflashplayer.so and a readme
file. There are different things you can do with this lib. If somebody
don't understand what to do with the lib and .deb wouldn't be available,
than alien likely could make a .deb from the provided .rpm.

9/10/2013 – [snip] The latest versions are 11.8.800.174 (Win IE),
11.8.800.168 (Win non-IE), 11.8.800.168 (Mac) and 11.2.202.310 (Linux).
All users are encouraged to update to these latest versions. -
http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html

Even with the Linux flash player installed, websites likely will nag
that you should downlaod current version of flash. Again, use Chrome
instead or another alternative would be to run Windows browsers using
wine or a virtual machine with a Windows guest.

The best thing to do, is to ignore home pages that need flash player for
flashy effects or to play videos with advertisements and/or proprietary
codecs, all the rest, e.g. playing YouTube videos, can be done with
HTML5.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-20 Thread Hazan Pérez
To answer this... You can activate the HTML5 playback in youtube in this
webpage http://www.youtube.com/html5

El 20/09/13 10:59, leo escribió:
 [Ralf wrote]:

  The best thing to do, is to ignore home pages that need flash player for
 flashy effects or to play videos with advertisements and/or proprietary
 codecs, all the rest, e.g. playing YouTube videos, can be done with
 HTML5.

 My question: How do I set up for to playYouTube with HTML5 rather than
 Adobe Flash Player then?

 Regards, Leo Newburn

 
 *From:* Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net
 *To:* ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com
 *Sent:* Friday, September 20, 2013 3:44 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

 On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 10:39 +0200, reSet Sakrecoer wrote:
  What is inside that tar.gz file? doubleclick it and see if you find
  some .deb file. Then mostlikley you just need to unpack the tar.gz
  file and double click it.

 It's irrelevant what's inside the tar.gz, since all major distros,
 including the official Ubuntu repositories used by Ubuntu Studio, do
 provide the last version of Adobe's flash player.

 NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux
 as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security
 backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux. -
 http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/

 However the tar.gz doesn't include a .deb, it would be nonsense to pack
 a .deb, but its contend mainly is the libflashplayer.so and a readme
 file. There are different things you can do with this lib. If somebody
 don't understand what to do with the lib and .deb wouldn't be available,
 than alien likely could make a .deb from the provided .rpm.

 9/10/2013 -- [snip] The latest versions are 11.8.800.174 (Win IE),
 11.8.800.168 (Win non-IE), 11.8.800.168 (Mac) and 11.2.202.310 (Linux).
 All users are encouraged to update to these latest versions. -
 http://www.adobe.com/support/flashplayer/downloads.html

 Even with the Linux flash player installed, websites likely will nag
 that you should downlaod current version of flash. Again, use Chrome
 instead or another alternative would be to run Windows browsers using
 wine or a virtual machine with a Windows guest.

 The best thing to do, is to ignore home pages that need flash player for
 flashy effects or to play videos with advertisements and/or proprietary
 codecs, all the rest, e.g. playing YouTube videos, can be done with
 HTML5.

 Regards,
 Ralf


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-20 Thread Pete Wright
Many can.

  _I suspect that YouTube videos that start with a commercial, can't be
played without flash._


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.netwrote:

 On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 08:59 -0700, leo wrote:
  [Ralf wrote]:
   The best thing to do, is to ignore home pages that need flash
   player for flashy effects or to play videos with advertisements
   and/or proprietary codecs, all the rest, e.g. playing YouTube
   videos, can be done with HTML5.
  My question: How do I set up for to playYouTube with HTML5 rather
  than Adobe Flash Player then?

 You have to do nothing, Firefox does this automatically. YouTube videos
 are playable by using free codecs only, sometimes it seems to take some
 hours, before the version is available, while the version using
 proprietary codecs is available as soon as somebody uploaded the video.

 _I suspect that YouTube videos that start with a commercial, can't be
 played without flash._

 Regards,
 Ralf



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 11:54 -0500, Hazan Pérez wrote:
 To answer this... You can activate the HTML5 playback in youtube in
 this webpage http://www.youtube.com/html5

Firefox (version 4+, WebM, available here)
Google Chrome (WebM, available here)
Opera (version 10.6+, WebM, available here)

At least on Linux, can't speak for other platforms, Chrome can play
videos, that Firefox and Opera can't play. So the information on that
website is very vague. Sure, I already mentioned that YouTube usually
isn't an issue for Firefox and Opera, but if you try to play videos from
other websites, Firefox and Opera usually fail, while Chrome is able to
play them.



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 19:37 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 11:54 -0500, Hazan Pérez wrote:
  To answer this... You can activate the HTML5 playback in youtube in
  this webpage http://www.youtube.com/html5
 
 Firefox (version 4+, WebM, available here)
 Google Chrome (WebM, available here)
 Opera (version 10.6+, WebM, available here)
 
 At least on Linux, can't speak for other platforms, Chrome can play
 videos, that Firefox and Opera can't play. So the information on that
 website is very vague. Sure, I already mentioned that YouTube usually
 isn't an issue for Firefox and Opera, but if you try to play videos from
 other websites, Firefox and Opera usually fail, while Chrome is able to
 play them.

PS: There's no need to use those downloads, all browsers are available
by repositories of most major distros, sure for Opera it's needed to add
a repository when using *buntu and Chrome seemingly isn't in the
official repositories of any major distro, but usually anyway available
by a repository.


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 08:59 -0700, leo wrote:
 [Ralf wrote]:
  The best thing to do, is to ignore home pages that need flash
  player for flashy effects or to play videos with advertisements
  and/or proprietary codecs, all the rest, e.g. playing YouTube
  videos, can be done with HTML5.
 My question: How do I set up for to playYouTube with HTML5 rather
 than Adobe Flash Player then?

You have to do nothing, Firefox does this automatically. YouTube videos
are playable by using free codecs only, sometimes it seems to take some
hours, before the version is available, while the version using
proprietary codecs is available as soon as somebody uploaded the video.

_I suspect that YouTube videos that start with a commercial, can't be
played without flash._

Regards,
Ralf



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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-20 Thread Joseph Ronne
Tried 'start page' ..  for Zimboanga it gives ads and zero information.. a
pretty poor showing as a search engine



On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote:

 Visit http://youtube.com/html5

 Not all videos are available in html5

 On Fri, Sep 20, 2013, at 05:59 PM, leo wrote:
  [Ralf wrote]:
 
   The best thing to do, is to ignore home pages that need flash player
 for
  flashy effects or to play videos with advertisements and/or proprietary
  codecs, all the rest, e.g. playing YouTube videos, can be done with
  HTML5.
 
  My question: How do I set up for to playYouTube with HTML5 rather than
  Adobe Flash Player then?
 
  Regards, Leo Newburn
 
 


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-20 Thread leo
Ralf, after viewing your suggested links, and taking into account your comment 
...The best thing to do, is to ignore home pages that need flash player..., 
it reminded me that
 sometime in the past, as I was trying various distros, I ended up having 2 
browsers available,
i.e., Firefox and Chrome. So if I have any issues from this point forward, I'll 
just add Chrome to my choice of browsers.
I like simplicity. ;)





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To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion 
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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe
 


Tried 'start page' ..  for Zimboanga it gives ads and zero information.. a 
pretty poor showing as a search engine





On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Kaj Ailomaa zeque...@mousike.me wrote:

Visit http://youtube.com/html5

Not all videos are available in html5


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013, at 05:59 PM, leo wrote:
 [Ralf wrote]:

  The best thing to do, is to ignore home pages that need flash player for
 flashy effects or to play videos with advertisements and/or proprietary
 codecs, all the rest, e.g. playing YouTube videos, can be done with
 HTML5.

 My question: How do I set up for to playYouTube with HTML5 rather than
 Adobe Flash Player then?

 Regards, Leo Newburn





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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-19 Thread Mike Holstein
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mozilla newsletter today said check plugins so I did.
 It said adobe shockwave plugin was out of date.
 I downloaded the tar.gz file, but now I don't know what to do with it.
 (couldn't make head nor sense of the instructions on Mozilla support.)
 I thought Linux was going to become easier than windows, and it mostly
 has. But every now and then it acts like Linux of yore, and I am not
 bright/nerdy/patient enough to muddle through.
 Suggestions?


im not sure what you are looking at, but if you are not having an issue
accessing some specific content, i would just ignore what you are seeing
til you are having a specific issue.. cheers


 thanks
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-19 Thread Pete Wright
thanks, Mike
Problem is Mozilla says it is vulnerable whatever that means.
Might this just be a MS Windows issue I can safely ignore?



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 On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mozilla newsletter today said check plugins so I did.
 It said adobe shockwave plugin was out of date.
 I downloaded the tar.gz file, but now I don't know what to do with it.
 (couldn't make head nor sense of the instructions on Mozilla support.)
 I thought Linux was going to become easier than windows, and it mostly
 has. But every now and then it acts like Linux of yore, and I am not
 bright/nerdy/patient enough to muddle through.
 Suggestions?


 im not sure what you are looking at, but if you are not having an issue
 accessing some specific content, i would just ignore what you are seeing
 til you are having a specific issue.. cheers


 thanks
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-19 Thread Mike Holstein
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.com wrote:

 thanks, Mike
 Problem is Mozilla says it is vulnerable whatever that means.
 Might this just be a MS Windows issue I can safely ignore?


i would see that you are up to date with upgrade.. flash, java, the linux
kernel.. firefox.. if you are, then you are up to date.. the warning you
could be seeing could be because linux has an older version of flash.. you
can check http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

what would i do? check to see if im vulnerable, and make sure firefox stops
nagging me if that bothers me.





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 On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mozilla newsletter today said check plugins so I did.
 It said adobe shockwave plugin was out of date.
 I downloaded the tar.gz file, but now I don't know what to do with it.
 (couldn't make head nor sense of the instructions on Mozilla support.)
 I thought Linux was going to become easier than windows, and it mostly
 has. But every now and then it acts like Linux of yore, and I am not
 bright/nerdy/patient enough to muddle through.
 Suggestions?


 im not sure what you are looking at, but if you are not having an issue
 accessing some specific content, i would just ignore what you are seeing
 til you are having a specific issue.. cheers


 thanks
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-19 Thread Pete Wright
Thanks, Mike


On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Mike Holstein mikeh...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.com wrote:

 thanks, Mike
 Problem is Mozilla says it is vulnerable whatever that means.
 Might this just be a MS Windows issue I can safely ignore?


 i would see that you are up to date with upgrade.. flash, java, the linux
 kernel.. firefox.. if you are, then you are up to date.. the warning you
 could be seeing could be because linux has an older version of flash.. you
 can check http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/

 what would i do? check to see if im vulnerable, and make sure firefox
 stops nagging me if that bothers me.





 On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Mike Holstein mikeh...@gmail.comwrote:




 On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Pete Wright pnwri...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mozilla newsletter today said check plugins so I did.
 It said adobe shockwave plugin was out of date.
 I downloaded the tar.gz file, but now I don't know what to do with it.
 (couldn't make head nor sense of the instructions on Mozilla support.)
 I thought Linux was going to become easier than windows, and it mostly
 has. But every now and then it acts like Linux of yore, and I am not
 bright/nerdy/patient enough to muddle through.
 Suggestions?


 im not sure what you are looking at, but if you are not having an issue
 accessing some specific content, i would just ignore what you are seeing
 til you are having a specific issue.. cheers


 thanks
  Pete

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] not smart enough to update adobe

2013-09-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I don't install Adobe flash player. YouTube videos likely can be played
by Firefox without Adobe flash player and assumed it's needed by a web
page, then Linux anyway doesn't provide an up-to-date version and
believing Adobe, there never will be an updated version for Linux again.
If I ever should need flash player, I'll use Google-Chrome. Don't
confuse it with Chromium.

https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/ChromiumBrowserVsGoogleChrome



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