Re: [ubuntu-uk] some user losing internet access
Sorry - in addition to that, heres the outputs you requested in case I'm completely wrong: from lshw -C network: *-network description: Ethernet interface product: BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX vendor: Broadcom Corporation physical id: 9 bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:09.0 logical name: eth1 version: 02 serial: 00:1a:a0:17:77:36 size: 100MB/s capacity: 100MB/s width: 32 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: bus_master cap_list ethernet physical mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=b44 driverversion=1.01 duplex=full ip=192.168.0.2 latency=64 link=yes multicast=yes port=twisted pair speed=100MB/s resources: iomemory:dfcfe000-dfcf irq:20 from sudo iwconfig lono wireless extensions. eth1 no wireless extensions. (and therefore no iwlist) Thanks chris, Martin. On Sunday 12 August 2007 21:14:38 Chris Rowson wrote: Hello all, My quest to spread the ubuntu word has brought me to a problem. I have set up feisty machines and introduced them to cafe's to remove their windows dependence and provide them with a stable system to stream music and do their paperwork/email etc. Over the last few weeks though, two of these machines have symptoms of a problem. users are losing their internet connections and their music is grinding to a halt. The wireless seems to be fine, so the connection is still there, and the admin account (not root, but admin) seems to keep the connection after the user accounts have lost theirs. after 10-20 minutes it will reconnect automatically. I'm runnning feisty on a dell optiplex320. 512Mb Pentium Duo 3.0GHz Hi there, That's a pretty open ended question ;-) How long have you had the problem, and how long where the computers running OK before it started? How many computers have you got connected to the wireless access point - Is this an internet cafe type setup, or a couple of computers set up for staff? What kind of wireless card are you using in the PCs? If you run the command 'sudo lshw -C network' - and post the output here it should tell us. Are there other wireless access points in the area? If so, are they on a similar channel - they could be interfering. Running 'sudo iwconfig' will tell you which interface you're running wireless on, and then running 'sudo iwlist interface name here scan' will show other access points in the area. What are you using to connect to the network, network manager? So in summary: 1 Problems with hardware/drivers 2 Problems with interference 3 Problems with software/wireless managers Other than that, try posting your issue at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ too - it's worth getting help there too. Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] some user losing internet access
well... thats quite a comprehensive answer! Thank you, Chris. ok: the machines with the problems are both hard wired. wireless has no problems at all with the internet, and so I'm assuming have no relevence to the hard wired machine's intermittant connection. admin accounts have no internet interuption. only user accounts, so Im assuming it's software in the OS itself. the wireless machines are customers, so I couldn't tell you the hardware they are using, but as I said - they have no problems :/ the box's in question are used in cafe's around bristol. there are six, all in different places, but only two have problems (that I know of). and yes - I am using network manager in gnome to connect automatically. Given all this (and the reason for my confusion with the problem), 1 can't be hardware/drivers because the admin account runs ok. 2 interference? i'm not using wireless - and anyways the admin account stays connected ok 3 not wireless managers (not wireless) which leaves me with software. what could give a an intermeittant conection on a hard eth cable line for only some users (non admin ones)? sorry - hope this is clearer than the last mail and that you understand my problem a bit more - i need to practice making these things clearer - but I'm getting better (i hope)! On Sunday 12 August 2007 21:14:38 Chris Rowson wrote: Hello all, My quest to spread the ubuntu word has brought me to a problem. I have set up feisty machines and introduced them to cafe's to remove their windows dependence and provide them with a stable system to stream music and do their paperwork/email etc. Over the last few weeks though, two of these machines have symptoms of a problem. users are losing their internet connections and their music is grinding to a halt. The wireless seems to be fine, so the connection is still there, and the admin account (not root, but admin) seems to keep the connection after the user accounts have lost theirs. after 10-20 minutes it will reconnect automatically. I'm runnning feisty on a dell optiplex320. 512Mb Pentium Duo 3.0GHz Hi there, That's a pretty open ended question ;-) How long have you had the problem, and how long where the computers running OK before it started? How many computers have you got connected to the wireless access point - Is this an internet cafe type setup, or a couple of computers set up for staff? What kind of wireless card are you using in the PCs? If you run the command 'sudo lshw -C network' - and post the output here it should tell us. Are there other wireless access points in the area? If so, are they on a similar channel - they could be interfering. Running 'sudo iwconfig' will tell you which interface you're running wireless on, and then running 'sudo iwlist interface name here scan' will show other access points in the area. What are you using to connect to the network, network manager? So in summary: 1 Problems with hardware/drivers 2 Problems with interference 3 Problems with software/wireless managers Other than that, try posting your issue at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ too - it's worth getting help there too. Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] iMac G4
Tony Travis wrote: Hello, Anyone using Ubuntu on an iMac G4? Not on that particular model, but I've put K/Ubuntu on a variety of ppc models. I've just got one, and installed Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS (Dapper) on it... Works quite well, but the recent decision by Canonical not to support the PowerPC architecture in future is disappointing. There is a 'port' of Feisty, but I couldn't get it to boot. Might have been a problem with the CD, so I'll burn another one: I don't want to have to use backports to get 'Gnash' working so I can enjoy the full irony of watching the Mac vs. PC spoof ad's from YouTube on a Mac running Ubuntu ;-) Are you burning the cd on OS X? There was (and may still be) a problem with burning bootable isos on os x. Why? - I'd like to convert my Mac colleagues to Ubuntu, of course! Tony. HTH John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] iMac G4
On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 13:05 +0100, John Levin wrote: Are you burning the cd on OS X? There was (and may still be) a problem with burning bootable isos on os x. I've used Toast on OS X to burn bootable Ubuntu discs in the past, maybe that would help if there is a problem with the OS X default tools? -Gav -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] iPod management
Hi all, Got a text from a friend earlier asking if she bought a new desktop from dell with Ubuntu, would she be able to use all her old files etc. I explained that yes Ubuntu can deal with jpgs (she was worried she wouldn't be able to see all her photos!) and OpenOffice is compatible with .doc formats and so on - but was stumped by the question of her iPod. (She was most thrilled that not only does Azureus run on Linux, but that Ubuntu has a built-in torrent client, but that's another matter). I explained that the necessary codecs for mp3s and so on are easy to install if of dubious legality (I guess they aren't pre-loaded on the Dells, or are they?), but I must admit I have no idea about managing an iPod from Ubuntu. I have most of the songs I want on mine anyway, and still dual-boot so can use iTunes when need be. She is seriously considering this purchase (if not for the very present moment at least when she returns from a long stay in Senegal), so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -- Josh Blacker http://jerichokb.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] iMac G4
Andrew Barber wrote: Hey Tony, I am also using Ubuntu on an iBook G4 and have found it to be a nice alternative to OSX. I have also successfully installed Feisty from the community work ongoing to supple people like us with a nice GNU/Linux distro. Hello, Andrew. It was the community version of Feisty for PPC that I couldn't boot. I've burnt another CD and this one works OK, so it must have been the CD. I've replaced the Dapper I installed previously with Feisty now. If you have any problems, ping me on IRC. You will find me in the ubuntu-uk channel, or you are welcome to private message me at any time. My nick is AndrewB I'm embarrased to say that I now use Skype chat (as ajtravis) because many of the people I talk to are on Skype. I did use IRC ChatZilla until I switched to FireFox (tried SeaMonkey, for a while but decided to use FireFox). I'm dithering about Thunderbird now Mozilla are 'demoting' it to a community version in a similar way to SeaMonkey... Hope all is going well so far. Seems OK, but PPC Java was a problem until I read about medibuntu! http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/ I've got to say that the iMac is quite slow in comparison to my old Athlon 2400+ desktop. However, it has got a very nice display :-) I tried using my iMac as a 'thin' client, with the SSHVnc Java applet: http://freshmeat.net/projects/sshvnc/?branch_id=40526 Executing Java was quite slow on the iMac G4 PPC, but I got a better response using xtightvncviewer instead, so it wasn't my Broadband connection that was limiting the speed of VNC display updates... I've been using the system monitor to see how busy my iMac was doing various tasks. It's quite good for an 'old' computer, and lots better under Ubuntu than it was under the version of MacOSX it had on it! Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Rowett Research Institute, |http://www.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, | phone:+44 (0)1224 712751 Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK.| fax:+44 (0)1224 716687 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPod management
but I must admit I have no idea about managing an iPod from Ubuntu. Hey Josh, Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod iPod is pretty well covered in Ubuntu. The only problem is that there isn't a version of iTunes for linux. Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPod management
Ah, wonderful. I will try one or more of those out and let her know how it goes. Thanks, No probs, I believe Banshee is supposed to be good with the iPod; but I don't have one so don't speak from personal experience. Cheers Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPod management
On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 14:15 +0100, Josh Blacker wrote: I explained that the necessary codecs for mp3s and so on are easy to install if of dubious legality (I guess they aren't pre-loaded on the Dells, or are they?), but I must admit I have no idea about managing an iPod from Ubuntu. I have most of the songs I want on mine anyway, and still dual-boot so can use iTunes when need be. My Wife's iPod shuffle works fine under Ubuntu using Rhythmbox, so I guess other iPods will too. The thing you may have problems with is music purchased from the iTunes store. It's all locked up with DRM so you'll have to burn it to an audio CD then rip it back to mp3 or ogg using either iTunes or something like Sound Juicer under Ubuntu. -Gav -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPod management
Ah, wonderful. I will try one or more of those out and let her know how it goes. Thanks, On 8/13/07, Chris Rowson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but I must admit I have no idea about managing an iPod from Ubuntu. Hey Josh, Check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPod iPod is pretty well covered in Ubuntu. The only problem is that there isn't a version of iTunes for linux. Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Josh Blacker http://jerichokb.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPod management
Josh Blacker wrote: Hi all, Got a text from a friend earlier asking if she bought a new desktop from dell with Ubuntu, would she be able to use all her old files etc. I explained that yes Ubuntu can deal with jpgs (she was worried she wouldn't be able to see all her photos!) and OpenOffice is compatible with .doc formats and so on - but was stumped by the question of her iPod. (She was most thrilled that not only does Azureus run on Linux, but that Ubuntu has a built-in torrent client, but that's another matter). ktorrent has got very good in the last year or two I explained that the necessary codecs for mp3s and so on are easy to install if of dubious legality (I guess they aren't pre-loaded on the Dells, or are they?), I do not think so, but easy to install an d 7.04 makes it easier too. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu is relevant but I must admit I have no idea about managing an iPod from Ubuntu. I have most of the songs I want on mine anyway, and still dual-boot so can use iTunes when need be. Amarok (again kde libraires but no problem) is very sophisticated and is certainly worth considering Alternatives to itunes will I suspect be effective in their various ways but the trick if any might be to be able to use the apple itunes databases, and when I last looked into it, it seemed that it might be possible to convert maybe one way but not back again, but I am not sure. good luck -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPod management
Hi, I've had a play with Rhythmbox and a little bit of Banshee. In neither of these can I seem to be able to create playlists on my nano, although editing existing ones worked on Rhythmbox (and they didn't show up at all on Banshee). Gtkpod couldn't find my nano because it wasn't where it was expecting, and looks all a bit rather more technical than I am looking for. On 8/13/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snippety snip] Amarok (again kde libraires but no problem) is very sophisticated and is certainly worth considering Alternatives to itunes will I suspect be effective in their various ways but the trick if any might be to be able to use the apple itunes databases, and when I last looked into it, it seemed that it might be possible to convert maybe one way but not back again, but I am not sure. good luck -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 I will have a look at Amarok with regards to this, and then probably post up my experiences on here if that sounds like a good idea? Lots of people, especially students, have iPods and I think this is an important area to look at, certainly for my friend (who was first wowed by Beryl). -- Josh Blacker http://jerichokb.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPod management
Josh If you're feeling daring, and my apologies as I'm tight on time tonight, there was either an article or a development annoucement on Linux Weekly News on either 02/08/07 or the week previous about an app that could be run instead of iTunes. If not, apologies as I'm trying to multi-task tonight; ever a good thing. E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Josh Blacker Sent: 13 August 2007 19:01 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPod management Hi, I've had a play with Rhythmbox and a little bit of Banshee. In neither of these can I seem to be able to create playlists on my nano, although editing existing ones worked on Rhythmbox (and they didn't show up at all on Banshee). Gtkpod couldn't find my nano because it wasn't where it was expecting, and looks all a bit rather more technical than I am looking for. On 8/13/07, alan c [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snippety snip] Amarok (again kde libraires but no problem) is very sophisticated and is certainly worth considering Alternatives to itunes will I suspect be effective in their various ways but the trick if any might be to be able to use the apple itunes databases, and when I last looked into it, it seemed that it might be possible to convert maybe one way but not back again, but I am not sure. good luck -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 I will have a look at Amarok with regards to this, and then probably post up my experiences on here if that sounds like a good idea? Lots of people, especially students, have iPods and I think this is an important area to look at, certainly for my friend (who was first wowed by Beryl). -- Josh Blacker http://jerichokb.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPod management
Josh Blacker wrote: Hi all, [...] Dells, or are they?), but I must admit I have no idea about managing an iPod from Ubuntu. I have most of the songs I want on mine anyway, and still dual-boot so can use iTunes when need be. An alternative approach could be to consider running linux *on* the ipod. I was surprised and heartened two weeks ago when I asked in my local (windows based) PC shop if they needed any more of my FOSS/ubuntu leaflets. They could take some more yes. I asked the guy if he used it - open source or linux? He said - 'oh, yes, on my ipod!' (so he could play videos apparently) :-) -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPod management
Hi, On 8/13/07, Ian Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Josh If you're feeling daring, and my apologies as I'm tight on time tonight, there was either an article or a development annoucement on Linux Weekly News on either 02/08/07 or the week previous about an app that could be run instead of iTunes. If not, apologies as I'm trying to multi-task tonight; ever a good thing. E Managed to find a link to a howto forge page (http://www.howtoforge.com/linux_amarok_ipod) explaining how to (ha!) use amarok for my iPod, which seems now to work, including creating new playlists. Only thing is, every time I plug it in, Rhythmbox starts up. Oh well - I think Amarok wins it. Thanks everyone for your help, -- Josh Blacker http://jerichokb.wordpress.com/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPod management
On Mon, 2007-08-13 at 20:48 +0100, Josh Blacker wrote: Only thing is, every time I plug it in, Rhythmbox starts up. Oh well - I think Amarok wins it. Go into System Preferences Removable Drives and Media. Choose the Multimedia Tab. With the Portable Music Players option you can select which app starts when you connect your iPod. I hope that helps. -Gav -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
