Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which do you use?
Paul, On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 01:54 +0100, Paul Tansom wrote: ** Tony Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-15 23:59]: Maybe it is just a quirk of the network file systems then. I'm usually trying to get to a Samba share Ah! I don't use Samba, so I've no idea how it works. - which is sad since I'm using Samba for Linux to Linux communication, but then I also use .xls files for OOo to Lotus file transfer with my accountant. Haven't IBM just got involved with the OpenOffice crowd? In which case ODT should be supported by Lotus 'real soon now'. There's a certain perverse satisfaction in using Microsoft 'standards' that they pretty much use to lock you into their products purely as a means to get non Microsoft products to communicate though ;) Yes, there is a certain irony there! Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold, IT Security Coordinator, University of Manchester, IT Services Division, Kilburn Building, Oxford Road, Manchester M13 9PL. T: +44 (0)161 275 6093, F: +44 (0)870 136 1004, M: +44 (0)773 330 0039 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED], H: http://www.man.ac.uk/Tony.Arnold -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] unsubscribe
PS (just a thought!) If you picked the digest option and unsubscribed at lunchtime would you recieve the mails up untill that time or nothing or all of that day?? PSS Sorry going on about nothing. PSSS If I was going on about nothing all day and someone asked me to shut up at lunchtime... :) sorry Dude what the hell, lol -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] unsubscribe
I hope someone takes that thread and puts it into fortune-mod. Andy On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:13:45 +0100, Matthew Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS (just a thought!) If you picked the digest option and unsubscribed at lunchtime would you recieve the mails up untill that time or nothing or all of that day?? PSS Sorry going on about nothing. PSSS If I was going on about nothing all day and someone asked me to shut up at lunchtime... :) sorry Dude what the hell, lol -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which do you use?
On 16/10/2007, Tony Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Haven't IBM just got involved with the OpenOffice crowd? In which case ODT should be supported by Lotus 'real soon now'. The latest release of Lotus does use ODT (and the other ODF file formats). IIRC it's available for free, but not free (don't you just love the ambiguities possible with English :-) ). Try looking for Lotus Symphony. Hwyl, Neil. P.S. It's built on the Eclipse RCP framework, in case anyone's interested. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] help!i want to control my torrents over the web!
if you do want access to a machine via ssh from work or some other insecure or restricted location. you could use WebShell http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mressl/webshell/ WebShell is a web-based ssh shell. It runs on any browser capable of JavaScript and AJAX. You can use it from any computer or iPhone/smartphone. The server is written in Python and is very easy to set up on Linux, Mac OS X, *BSD, Solaris, and any Unix that runs python 2.3. Very nice :-D I just installed that on my vps - One thing, the text seemed a little slow to update as I typed into the shell, is that usual? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] How to delete all .m4a files from music library
I've got a mixture of .flac and .m4a files of the same music scattered through the multiple sub directories in ~/music. I want to delete all the .m4a files from which ever subdirectory they happen to be in, leaving the .flac files in their current directories. (It would be nice to delete any directories that have become empty because they only had .m4a files in them - but that would be a bonus!) I'd be grateful for advice about how to do this 'selective recursive delete' - I can't work out a terminal command with this effect. Sorry if this is dead obvious - I can't see how to do it. TIA Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to delete all .m4a files from music library
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 18:48 +0100, Mac wrote: I've got a mixture of .flac and .m4a files of the same music scattered through the multiple sub directories in ~/music. I want to delete all the .m4a files from which ever subdirectory they happen to be in, leaving the .flac files in their current directories. (It would be nice to delete any directories that have become empty because they only had .m4a files in them - but that would be a bonus!) I'd be grateful for advice about how to do this 'selective recursive delete' - I can't work out a terminal command with this effect. Sorry if this is dead obvious - I can't see how to do it. TIA Mac Try: rm -R *.mp4 *.m4a -- Alec Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy release party: The Pembury Tavern
John Levin wrote: Michael Holloway wrote: On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 13:07 +0100, Pete Stean wrote: It's not in the middle of nowhere lol It's only 2 or 3 mins walk from Hackney Central railway station which is on the North London line, which the tube connects to at Richmond, Highbury and Islington, Stratford, (a few mins walk from) Camden Town, and other places... See you folks there :) Pete Ok so do we need to book/ tell anyone if were coming? I for one don't know for sure i'll make it or not...but i'd like to come, and will probably only know on thursday if i will make it. I'll ring the pub later today. John Okay, spoken to Steve Early at the Pembury, and everything is a go. Pub has wifi too. I'll be there from 7.30 sharp, to meet and greet, in a Ubuntu tshirt. Will post a reminder about this to the list tomorrow, and send one to the GLLUG (Greater London Linux Users Group) list as well. See you on Thursday, John -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to delete all .m4a files from music library
Alec Wright wrote: On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 18:48 +0100, Mac wrote: I've got a mixture of .flac and .m4a files of the same music scattered through the multiple sub directories in ~/music. I want to delete all the .m4a files from which ever subdirectory they happen to be in, leaving the .flac files in their current directories. (It would be nice to delete any directories that have become empty because they only had .m4a files in them - but that would be a bonus!) I'd be grateful for advice about how to do this 'selective recursive delete' - I can't work out a terminal command with this effect. Sorry if this is dead obvious - I can't see how to do it. TIA Mac Try: rm -R *.mp4 *.m4a Alec Thanks for reply. I tried the form of command you suggest. It returns rm: cannot lstat `*.mp4': No such file or directory rm: cannot lstat `*.m4a': No such file or directory Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to delete all .m4a files from music library
Try this: find /path/to/music -name *.m4a -exec rm {} \; Regards, Tom Mac wrote: I've got a mixture of .flac and .m4a files of the same music scattered through the multiple sub directories in ~/music. I want to delete all the .m4a files from which ever subdirectory they happen to be in, leaving the .flac files in their current directories. (It would be nice to delete any directories that have become empty because they only had .m4a files in them - but that would be a bonus!) I'd be grateful for advice about how to do this 'selective recursive delete' - I can't work out a terminal command with this effect. Sorry if this is dead obvious - I can't see how to do it. TIA Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to delete all .m4a files from music library
Tom Bamford wrote: Try this: find /path/to/music -name *.m4a -exec rm {} \; Perfect! Cheers, Tom - that's great. Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620
I have just about to install 6.06 on my Dell optiplex GX620, but when I installed it on one the other day it could not configure the internet connection. Any advise or suggestions? James. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to delete all .m4a files from music library
On 10/16/07, Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (It would be nice to delete any directories that have become empty because they only had .m4a files in them - but that would be a bonus!) Going for the bonus! find ~/music/ -depth -type d -empty -exec rmdir {} \; Matthew PS. can anyone see why this does not work to do it all in one (ignoring the rm)?: find test/ -depth \( -type f -name '*.m4a' \) -o \( -type d -empty \) -exec rm {} \; From what I understand in man find, the brackets are not even needed, since the default operator is AND. However this line does not print any matches for me, unless I remove the directory part. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just about to install 6.06 on my Dell optiplex GX620, but when I installed it on one the other day it could not configure the internet connection. Any advise or suggestions? James. Is the card detected? AFAIK the Optiplex GX620 have Broadcom adaptors although I would have thought it would be supported (I'm fairly certain that it is supported on Ubuntu 6.10 and higher). Could you try setting a static IP address? (this is always easier if you know what sort of IP addresses are on your network and what the gateway address of the router and DNS address(es) are). Other than that, if it's a standard Mini Tower or Desktop machine (rather than the small form factor size), have you got a spare network card you could try? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620
Rob, Um, how do I know if it has detected the network card? I also have 7.04, just finished downloading it, should I use that instead? James - Original Message - From: Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have just about to install 6.06 on my Dell optiplex GX620, but when I installed it on one the other day it could not configure the internet connection. Any advise or suggestions? James. Is the card detected? AFAIK the Optiplex GX620 have Broadcom adaptors although I would have thought it would be supported (I'm fairly certain that it is supported on Ubuntu 6.10 and higher). Could you try setting a static IP address? (this is always easier if you know what sort of IP addresses are on your network and what the gateway address of the router and DNS address(es) are). Other than that, if it's a standard Mini Tower or Desktop machine (rather than the small form factor size), have you got a spare network card you could try? Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620
On 10/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, Um, how do I know if it has detected the network card? I also have 7.04, just finished downloading it, should I use that instead? James Hi James, If you can wait two days, it might be worth trying 7.10 instead (http://www.ubuntu.com/). Network connectivity has improved throughout the years, especially with wireless cards. Saying that, it wouldn't harm burning your 7.04 to disk, and booting up into the live disk to see whether your network card is detected. If you go to System-Administration-Network, you should (hopefully!) see a bunch of cards there. Kris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, Um, how do I know if it has detected the network card? I also have 7.04, just finished downloading it, should I use that instead? James Hi James, One of the ways you can see if it is detected is to open the Terminal (this can be found under the Applications menu - Accessories - Terminal) and then entering the command: ifconfig You should *hopefully* see a list of adaptors come up. On my home machine running Ubuntu 7.04 I get eth0 which is the network card and lo which is the 'loopback' adaptor (kind of a virtual internal network card). As Kris mentions, you may be worth hanging on until Thursday and downloading/trying Ubuntu 7.10. I'm not back in my office until Thursday so if I can download the Ubuntu 7.10 ISO I will give it a try on my work machine (which is an Optiplex GX620). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Training material
Hi folks, We've had a new member of the Devon Cornwall LUG asking if there are any Ubuntu/Kubuntu training courses in the Plymouth area. As far as I'm aware there currently isn't anything like that going on in the area.. I've mentioned about our local LUG maybe putting together some sort of training material to cover Gnome/KDE and making it kind of generic and not distro specific, and this got me thinking though, are there any training materials other than the screen casts? Something that can be used in a classroom environment is ideal. In the mean time I've pointed this new LUG member in the direction of the Ubuntu-UK web site (I mentioned there is a great mailing list and some really useful screen casts that can show her visually how to do things). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620
With 6.06 there are problems with the dell servers detecting the cards and I believe it will be the same with the optiplexes, I would suggest using a newer version than 6.06, I know it isn't as well supported but an newer version will at least work out the bux. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 16 October 2007 22:14 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob, Um, how do I know if it has detected the network card? I also have 7.04, just finished downloading it, should I use that instead? James Hi James, One of the ways you can see if it is detected is to open the Terminal (this can be found under the Applications menu - Accessories - Terminal) and then entering the command: ifconfig You should *hopefully* see a list of adaptors come up. On my home machine running Ubuntu 7.04 I get eth0 which is the network card and lo which is the 'loopback' adaptor (kind of a virtual internal network card). As Kris mentions, you may be worth hanging on until Thursday and downloading/trying Ubuntu 7.10. I'm not back in my office until Thursday so if I can download the Ubuntu 7.10 ISO I will give it a try on my work machine (which is an Optiplex GX620). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Training material
Hi Rob, On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 22:25 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: We've had a new member of the Devon Cornwall LUG asking if there are any Ubuntu/Kubuntu training courses in the Plymouth area. As far as I'm aware there currently isn't anything like that going on in the area.. Canonical (and the wider Ubunutu community) are currently developing an Ubuntu Desktop course. It's not finished yet, but we're working on it a chapter at a time. You can see the first drafts of some chapters here:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training Note: It really is early on in the development of this course, and it it intended to be collaboratively edited, so if you see any omissions or errors then you can check out the changes and modify them yourself. The instructions for doing his are on this page:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training/KnowledgeBase Alternatively make a list of gotchas and mail them to me and I'll make sure they get considered/included/passed-on as appropriate. In the mean time I've pointed this new LUG member in the direction of the Ubuntu-UK web site (I mentioned there is a great mailing list and some really useful screen casts that can show her visually how to do things). Yay! We take requests too! http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Requests Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Training material
Alan Pope wrote: Hi Rob, On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 22:25 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: We've had a new member of the Devon Cornwall LUG asking if there are any Ubuntu/Kubuntu training courses in the Plymouth area. As far as I'm aware there currently isn't anything like that going on in the area.. Canonical (and the wider Ubunutu community) are currently developing an Ubuntu Desktop course. It's not finished yet, but we're working on it a chapter at a time. You can see the first drafts of some chapters here:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training Note: It really is early on in the development of this course, and it it intended to be collaboratively edited, so if you see any omissions or errors then you can check out the changes and modify them yourself. The instructions for doing his are on this page:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training/KnowledgeBase Alternatively make a list of gotchas and mail them to me and I'll make sure they get considered/included/passed-on as appropriate. In the mean time I've pointed this new LUG member in the direction of the Ubuntu-UK web site (I mentioned there is a great mailing list and some really useful screen casts that can show her visually how to do things). Yay! We take requests too! http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Requests Cheers, Al. Great, thanks for those links Al. I like the idea of running a 2 day course, I've mentioned it on my local LUG mailing list. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future
Hey, I'm eighteen years old and I am on the second year of a BTEC National Diploma for IT Practitioners. I'm looking at achieving either a DDM (320 UCAS points) or DMM (280 UCAS points) at the end of the course. I want to do Computer Science at University but I all of the good ones want A level maths (which is something I don't have). I'm wondering if I should take a university that doesn't need A level maths, take A level maths and then University afterwards or just generally give up and take another direction in life... I'm feeling pretty lost and I figured that some of you must have gone through a similar education path in the past. - Jai -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future
Experience is almost as important or even more important than degrees, my advice would be find someone in your area then get some work with them if you can, easy than it sounds I know you might even need to do it for free but its good to get experience and then you will know what you want to focus on. If you want to then work up to getting linux degrees or network with cisco etc, can help you decide what part of IT you would want to work in as it is a massive field. Or if you like it you can be like some people(myself included) and get into anything IT related from media players to massive servers. Which is fun, but obviously pretty hard. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jai Harrison Sent: 16 October 2007 23:04 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future Hey, I'm eighteen years old and I am on the second year of a BTEC National Diploma for IT Practitioners. I'm looking at achieving either a DDM (320 UCAS points) or DMM (280 UCAS points) at the end of the course. I want to do Computer Science at University but I all of the good ones want A level maths (which is something I don't have). I'm wondering if I should take a university that doesn't need A level maths, take A level maths and then University afterwards or just generally give up and take another direction in life... I'm feeling pretty lost and I figured that some of you must have gone through a similar education path in the past. - Jai -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to delete all .m4a files from music library
Matthew Wild wrote: On 10/16/07, Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (It would be nice to delete any directories that have become empty because they only had .m4a files in them - but that would be a bonus!) Going for the bonus! find ~/music/ -depth -type d -empty -exec rmdir {} \; Matthew PS. can anyone see why this does not work to do it all in one (ignoring the rm)?: find test/ -depth \( -type f -name '*.m4a' \) -o \( -type d -empty \) -exec rm {} \; From what I understand in man find, the brackets are not even needed, since the default operator is AND. However this line does not print any matches for me, unless I remove the directory part. Matthew Thanks for the thought you put into this. In fact I'd already done the deletions manually, as there turned out to be few empty directories. But your solution, and question, look interesting - even though I don't yet understand how they do what they do. Many thanks for your time and interest. Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future
On 16/10/2007, Daniel Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Experience is almost as important or even more important than degrees, my advice would be find someone in your area then get some work with them if you can, easy than it sounds I know you might even need to do it for free but its good to get experience and then you will know what you want to focus on. If you want to then work up to getting linux degrees or network with cisco etc, can help you decide what part of IT you would want to work in as it is a massive field. Or if you like it you can be like some people(myself included) and get into anything IT related from media players to massive servers. Which is fun, but obviously pretty hard. Regards, Daniel I agree with you ... to a point. There are a number of factors to consider Jai: 1) What do you want to do. Research? Analysis? Consulting? Support? 2) Who do you want to work for. IBM / Sun / Yourself / local business / Cap Gemini / a school? 3) Who do you want to work with? IT professionals, leet haxors, your mates? 4) *Do you have the neccessary skills*. Can you explain a technical concept to your mother? Can you go away and write a system given a few months? Have you any proof of your skills? 5) *Do you have the neccessary qualifications* 6) *Do you have the neccessary experience* The important ones I have marked out. A degree in Computer Science will not teach you any of the soft skills. It will not teach you any of the business skills. It will teach you how to code, how to code well and all the underlying knowledge you will need to build any computer system. Hence Computer Science. If it means studying A level maths, study it. I had to and I am pants at maths. Qualifications (like MSCE, Java Certified Engineer) mean jack. Your CV does your talking for you. Experience beats qualifications any day of the week. The exception is a degree. Your degree is more than a piece of paper saying: I can code in Java or I can fix a broken AD tree. What anyone says about a degree being useless is wrong. Sorry. 90% of employers will take the guy with the degree any day (for young people) over someone who doesnt. If ANYTHING join the BCS. TBH anyone who takes themselves seriously in computing is a member of the BCS. Build your skillset now, while you still have a chance. Join the clubs, join the open source mailing lists (employers really dig the OSS stuff), play in bands, do stuff. This will make you a much more rounded individual and you will gain so much experience doing this stuff. Not to mention building up your network. Do not fall into the typical IT trap of thinking your the dogs bollocks. Do not spell Hyper-Text Markup Language wrong on your CV. There will _always_ be something you don't know, or _someone_ who is better than you. If you lie about what you can do, you *will* get found out, and you *will* look like an idiot. Be honest, no-one is expecting you to be perfect, and most employers would rather have someone they can shape up and give new perspectives on things. The most important thing is go with your instintcs. You shouldn't force yourself to do something you will not enjoy for the rest of your life. Likewise no-body is going to force you to do anything: you need to decide what you want to do and go for it. If it doesnt work out, chill, there is plenty of time to sort it out :-) Hope that helps, -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Training material
Alan, is there anything you _DON'T_ know? I bet you don't know what my favourite brand of tea is! On 16/10/2007, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan Pope wrote: Hi Rob, On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 22:25 +0100, Rob Beard wrote: We've had a new member of the Devon Cornwall LUG asking if there are any Ubuntu/Kubuntu training courses in the Plymouth area. As far as I'm aware there currently isn't anything like that going on in the area.. Canonical (and the wider Ubunutu community) are currently developing an Ubuntu Desktop course. It's not finished yet, but we're working on it a chapter at a time. You can see the first drafts of some chapters here:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training Note: It really is early on in the development of this course, and it it intended to be collaboratively edited, so if you see any omissions or errors then you can check out the changes and modify them yourself. The instructions for doing his are on this page:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training/KnowledgeBase Alternatively make a list of gotchas and mail them to me and I'll make sure they get considered/included/passed-on as appropriate. In the mean time I've pointed this new LUG member in the direction of the Ubuntu-UK web site (I mentioned there is a great mailing list and some really useful screen casts that can show her visually how to do things). Yay! We take requests too! http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Requests Cheers, Al. Great, thanks for those links Al. I like the idea of running a 2 day course, I've mentioned it on my local LUG mailing list. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] BBC to develop Flash-based iPlayer for Linux
By adopting the Adobe Flash(r) Player software, the BBC will make its free catch-up TV service – BBC iPlayer – available as a streaming service across Macintosh and Linux(r), as well as Microsoft Windows(r), by the end of the year. http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/10_october/16/adobe.shtml Apologies if this is not news to anyone, it's news to me! Kris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future
Matthew, kind of what I was getting at, but you said it a lot better! Jai just remember a job should be fun as well, don't pick IT due to it being well paid some people enjoy being a bus driver, make sure your happy, trust me money isn't everything, also depending what aspects of IT you get into its not as well paid as you think. Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Larsen Sent: 17 October 2007 00:06 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future On 16/10/2007, Daniel Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Experience is almost as important or even more important than degrees, my advice would be find someone in your area then get some work with them if you can, easy than it sounds I know you might even need to do it for free but its good to get experience and then you will know what you want to focus on. If you want to then work up to getting linux degrees or network with cisco etc, can help you decide what part of IT you would want to work in as it is a massive field. Or if you like it you can be like some people(myself included) and get into anything IT related from media players to massive servers. Which is fun, but obviously pretty hard. Regards, Daniel I agree with you ... to a point. There are a number of factors to consider Jai: 1) What do you want to do. Research? Analysis? Consulting? Support? 2) Who do you want to work for. IBM / Sun / Yourself / local business / Cap Gemini / a school? 3) Who do you want to work with? IT professionals, leet haxors, your mates? 4) *Do you have the neccessary skills*. Can you explain a technical concept to your mother? Can you go away and write a system given a few months? Have you any proof of your skills? 5) *Do you have the neccessary qualifications* 6) *Do you have the neccessary experience* The important ones I have marked out. A degree in Computer Science will not teach you any of the soft skills. It will not teach you any of the business skills. It will teach you how to code, how to code well and all the underlying knowledge you will need to build any computer system. Hence Computer Science. If it means studying A level maths, study it. I had to and I am pants at maths. Qualifications (like MSCE, Java Certified Engineer) mean jack. Your CV does your talking for you. Experience beats qualifications any day of the week. The exception is a degree. Your degree is more than a piece of paper saying: I can code in Java or I can fix a broken AD tree. What anyone says about a degree being useless is wrong. Sorry. 90% of employers will take the guy with the degree any day (for young people) over someone who doesnt. If ANYTHING join the BCS. TBH anyone who takes themselves seriously in computing is a member of the BCS. Build your skillset now, while you still have a chance. Join the clubs, join the open source mailing lists (employers really dig the OSS stuff), play in bands, do stuff. This will make you a much more rounded individual and you will gain so much experience doing this stuff. Not to mention building up your network. Do not fall into the typical IT trap of thinking your the dogs bollocks. Do not spell Hyper-Text Markup Language wrong on your CV. There will _always_ be something you don't know, or _someone_ who is better than you. If you lie about what you can do, you *will* get found out, and you *will* look like an idiot. Be honest, no-one is expecting you to be perfect, and most employers would rather have someone they can shape up and give new perspectives on things. The most important thing is go with your instintcs. You shouldn't force yourself to do something you will not enjoy for the rest of your life. Likewise no-body is going to force you to do anything: you need to decide what you want to do and go for it. If it doesnt work out, chill, there is plenty of time to sort it out :-) Hope that helps, -- Matthew G Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Clean install with separate home partition questions
Hi guys, Am currently all booted up in gutsy rc live cd, but going through the installer it doesn't seem to be very intelligent about me having user profiles in my /home partition. It detects the ones from my Windows partition, but not the Ubuntu ones. Any ideas on why this is, and why I am prompted to enter new user information? I would have thought it would be able to see my exisiting Ubuntu /home. Yours confusedly, -- Josh Blacker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clean install with separate home partition questions
On 10/17/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 23:38 +, Josh Blacker wrote: Am currently all booted up in gutsy rc live cd, but going through the installer it doesn't seem to be very intelligent about me having user profiles in my /home partition. It detects the ones from my Windows partition, but not the Ubuntu ones. Any ideas on why this is, and why I am prompted to enter new user information? I would have thought it would be able to see my exisiting Ubuntu /home. Well, there's nothing to import from your existing home directory is there? If you want to use that partition, all that Gutsy needs to know is where it is, and it will mount it. Surely then, there should be no need to come up with new user information, that's my point - a little counterintuitive. I understand where you're coming from, though. So during the partition section you need to specify which partition you want to be swap, which is / and which is /home. Make sure you tell it not to format /home, but it will want to format / I suspect :) The annoying thing is, the installer lists my partitions as /media/sda1 etc, but Nautilus as /media/disk etc, which don't even seem to correspond! I may have to jump in and pray for the best... Perhaps I'm just being tired and slow! Cheers, Al. Thanks, -- Josh Blacker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 23:04 +0100, Jai Harrison wrote: Hey, I'm eighteen years old and I am on the second year of a BTEC National Diploma for IT Practitioners. I'm looking at achieving either a DDM (320 UCAS points) or DMM (280 UCAS points) at the end of the course. I want to do Computer Science at University but I all of the good ones want A level maths (which is something I don't have). I'm wondering if I should take a university that doesn't need A level maths, take A level maths and then University afterwards or just generally give up and take another direction in life... I'm feeling pretty lost and I figured that some of you must have gone through a similar education path in the past. - Jai Hi Jai, When I was your age, I had no idea what I wanted to do - infact I wasn't sure i even wanted to attend a university. At least you know what you want to do, just not how to achieve it. I would be inclined to contact the admissions department of a university that interests you. When I was at University I had a friend who practically failed all his A-levels and was still accepted for Computer Science BSc. I'm sure things haven't changed that much, so you may be in luck. It makes me quite angry that BTEC's etc are 'sold' to school leavers as equivalent; but the university's don't make it particularly easy. I think the Diploma being in a related field will certainly help your application. One option most universities offer is an additional first year for people that don't get grades they wanted. Another option might be 'clearing'; but you will have to be fast. One slightly risky solution you could follow, is to pick a similar course that has fewer entry requirements (such as Computing), then convert to CS mid-course (I know of somebody that did this). As I said, the best people to talk to are the admission departments - they will offer the best advice. Whatever you chose, don't get despondent - if you want to go to university there is normally a way in. Keep us posted on what happens, and good luck. Hope this helps. Kind Regards, Dave Walker (BSc Computer Science) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/