Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which do you use?

2007-10-16 Thread Tony Arnold
Paul,

On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 01:54 +0100, Paul Tansom wrote:
 ** Tony Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-15 23:59]:

 Maybe it is just a quirk of the network file systems then. I'm usually
 trying to get to a Samba share

Ah! I don't use Samba, so I've no idea how it works.

  - which is sad since I'm using Samba for
 Linux to Linux communication, but then I also use .xls files for OOo to
 Lotus file transfer with my accountant.

Haven't IBM just got involved with the OpenOffice crowd? In which case
ODT should be supported by Lotus 'real soon now'.

  There's a certain perverse
 satisfaction in using Microsoft 'standards' that they pretty much use to
 lock you into their products purely as a means to get non Microsoft
 products to communicate though ;)

Yes, there is a certain irony there!

Regards,
Tony.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] unsubscribe

2007-10-16 Thread Matthew Larsen
 PS (just a thought!) If you picked the digest option and unsubscribed at
 lunchtime
 would you recieve the mails up untill that time or nothing or all of that
 day??

 PSS Sorry going on about nothing.

 PSSS If I was going on about nothing all day and someone asked me to shut up
 at lunchtime... :)  sorry

Dude what the hell, lol


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] unsubscribe

2007-10-16 Thread andylockran
I hope someone takes that thread and puts it into fortune-mod.

Andy

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:13:45 +0100, Matthew Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 PS (just a thought!) If you picked the digest option and unsubscribed at
 lunchtime
 would you recieve the mails up untill that time or nothing or all of
 that
 day??

 PSS Sorry going on about nothing.

 PSSS If I was going on about nothing all day and someone asked me to
 shut up
 at lunchtime... :)  sorry
 
 Dude what the hell, lol
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Which do you use?

2007-10-16 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 16/10/2007, Tony Arnold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Haven't IBM just got involved with the OpenOffice crowd? In which case
 ODT should be supported by Lotus 'real soon now'.

The latest release of Lotus does use ODT (and the other ODF file
formats). IIRC it's available for free, but not free (don't you just
love the ambiguities possible with English :-) ). Try looking for
Lotus Symphony.

Hwyl,
Neil.

P.S. It's built on the Eclipse RCP framework, in case anyone's interested.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] help!i want to control my torrents over the web!

2007-10-16 Thread Chris Rowson
 if you do want access to a machine via ssh from work or some other insecure
 or restricted location.
 you could use WebShell
 http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mressl/webshell/

 
 
  WebShell is a web-based ssh shell.
 
  It runs on any browser capable of JavaScript and AJAX. You can use it from
 any computer or iPhone/smartphone.
 
  The server is written in Python and is very easy to set up on Linux, Mac
 OS X, *BSD, Solaris, and any Unix that runs python 2.3.
 

Very nice :-D

I just installed that on my vps -

One thing, the text seemed a little slow to update as I typed into the
shell, is that usual?

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[ubuntu-uk] How to delete all .m4a files from music library

2007-10-16 Thread Mac
I've got a mixture of .flac and .m4a files of the same music scattered 
through the multiple sub directories in ~/music.  I want to delete all 
the .m4a files from which ever subdirectory they happen to be in, 
leaving the .flac files in their current directories.  (It would be nice 
to delete any directories that have become empty because they only had 
.m4a files in them - but that would be a bonus!)

I'd be grateful for advice about how to do this 'selective recursive 
delete' - I can't work out a terminal command with this effect.

Sorry if this is dead obvious - I can't see how to do it.

TIA

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to delete all .m4a files from music library

2007-10-16 Thread Alec Wright
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 18:48 +0100, Mac wrote:
 I've got a mixture of .flac and .m4a files of the same music scattered 
 through the multiple sub directories in ~/music.  I want to delete all 
 the .m4a files from which ever subdirectory they happen to be in, 
 leaving the .flac files in their current directories.  (It would be nice 
 to delete any directories that have become empty because they only had 
 .m4a files in them - but that would be a bonus!)
 
 I'd be grateful for advice about how to do this 'selective recursive 
 delete' - I can't work out a terminal command with this effect.
 
 Sorry if this is dead obvious - I can't see how to do it.
 
 TIA
 
 Mac
Try:
rm -R *.mp4 *.m4a
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gutsy release party: The Pembury Tavern

2007-10-16 Thread John Levin
John Levin wrote:
 Michael Holloway wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-10-15 at 13:07 +0100, Pete Stean wrote:
 It's not in the middle of nowhere lol

 It's only 2 or 3 mins walk from Hackney Central railway station which
 is on the North London line, which the tube connects to at Richmond,
 Highbury and Islington, Stratford, (a few mins walk from) Camden Town,
 and other places...

 See you folks there :)

 Pete

 Ok so do we need to book/ tell anyone if were coming? I for one don't
 know for sure i'll make it or not...but i'd like to come, and will
 probably only know on thursday if i will make it.


 
 I'll ring the pub later today.
 
 John
 
 

Okay, spoken to Steve Early at the Pembury, and everything is a go. Pub 
has wifi too. I'll be there from 7.30 sharp, to meet and greet, in a 
Ubuntu tshirt.

Will post a reminder about this to the list tomorrow, and send one to 
the GLLUG (Greater London Linux Users Group) list as well.

See you on Thursday,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to delete all .m4a files from music library

2007-10-16 Thread Mac
Alec Wright wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 18:48 +0100, Mac wrote:
 I've got a mixture of .flac and .m4a files of the same music scattered 
 through the multiple sub directories in ~/music.  I want to delete all 
 the .m4a files from which ever subdirectory they happen to be in, 
 leaving the .flac files in their current directories.  (It would be nice 
 to delete any directories that have become empty because they only had 
 .m4a files in them - but that would be a bonus!)
 
 I'd be grateful for advice about how to do this 'selective recursive 
 delete' - I can't work out a terminal command with this effect.
 
 Sorry if this is dead obvious - I can't see how to do it.
 
 TIA
 
 Mac
 Try:
 rm -R *.mp4 *.m4a


Alec  Thanks for reply.  I tried the form of command you suggest.  It 
returns

rm: cannot lstat `*.mp4': No such file or directory
rm: cannot lstat `*.m4a': No such file or directory

Mac






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Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to delete all .m4a files from music library

2007-10-16 Thread Tom Bamford
Try this:

find /path/to/music -name *.m4a -exec rm {} \;

Regards,
Tom


Mac wrote:
 I've got a mixture of .flac and .m4a files of the same music scattered 
 through the multiple sub directories in ~/music.  I want to delete all 
 the .m4a files from which ever subdirectory they happen to be in, 
 leaving the .flac files in their current directories.  (It would be nice 
 to delete any directories that have become empty because they only had 
 .m4a files in them - but that would be a bonus!)
 
 I'd be grateful for advice about how to do this 'selective recursive 
 delete' - I can't work out a terminal command with this effect.
 
 Sorry if this is dead obvious - I can't see how to do it.
 
 TIA
 
 Mac
 
 
 
 


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to delete all .m4a files from music library

2007-10-16 Thread Mac
Tom Bamford wrote:
 Try this:
 
 find /path/to/music -name *.m4a -exec rm {} \;



Perfect!  Cheers, Tom - that's great.

Mac





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[ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620

2007-10-16 Thread james
I have just about to install 6.06 on my Dell optiplex GX620, but when I
installed it on one the other day it could not configure the internet
connection.

Any advise or suggestions?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to delete all .m4a files from music library

2007-10-16 Thread Matthew Wild
On 10/16/07, Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  (It would be nice
 to delete any directories that have become empty because they only had
 .m4a files in them - but that would be a bonus!)


Going for the bonus!

find ~/music/ -depth -type d -empty -exec rmdir {} \;

Matthew

 PS. can anyone see why this does not work to do it all in one (ignoring the
rm)?:
find test/ -depth \( -type f -name '*.m4a' \) -o \( -type d -empty \) -exec
rm {} \;
From what I understand in man find, the brackets are not even needed, since
the default operator is AND. However this line does not print any matches
for me, unless I remove the directory part.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620

2007-10-16 Thread Rob Beard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have just about to install 6.06 on my Dell optiplex GX620, but when I
 installed it on one the other day it could not configure the internet
 connection.
 
 Any advise or suggestions?
 
 James.
 
 

Is the card detected?  AFAIK the Optiplex GX620 have Broadcom adaptors 
although I would have thought it would be supported (I'm fairly certain 
that it is supported on Ubuntu 6.10 and higher).

Could you try setting a static IP address?  (this is always easier if 
you know what sort of IP addresses are on your network and what the 
gateway address of the router and DNS address(es) are).

Other than that, if it's a standard Mini Tower or Desktop machine 
(rather than the small form factor size), have you got a spare network 
card you could try?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620

2007-10-16 Thread james
Rob,

Um, how do I know if it has detected the network card?

I also have 7.04, just finished downloading it, should I use that instead?

James
- Original Message - 
From: Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; British Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have just about to install 6.06 on my Dell optiplex GX620, but when I
  installed it on one the other day it could not configure the internet
  connection.
  
  Any advise or suggestions?
  
  James.
  
  
 
 Is the card detected?  AFAIK the Optiplex GX620 have Broadcom adaptors 
 although I would have thought it would be supported (I'm fairly certain 
 that it is supported on Ubuntu 6.10 and higher).
 
 Could you try setting a static IP address?  (this is always easier if 
 you know what sort of IP addresses are on your network and what the 
 gateway address of the router and DNS address(es) are).
 
 Other than that, if it's a standard Mini Tower or Desktop machine 
 (rather than the small form factor size), have you got a spare network 
 card you could try?
 
 Rob
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620

2007-10-16 Thread Kris Marsh
On 10/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rob,

 Um, how do I know if it has detected the network card?

 I also have 7.04, just finished downloading it, should I use that instead?

 James

Hi James,

If you can wait two days, it might be worth trying 7.10 instead
(http://www.ubuntu.com/).

Network connectivity has improved throughout the years, especially
with wireless cards.

Saying that, it wouldn't harm burning your 7.04 to disk, and booting
up into the live disk to see whether your network card is detected.

If you go to System-Administration-Network, you should (hopefully!)
see a bunch of cards there.

Kris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620

2007-10-16 Thread Rob Beard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rob,
 
 Um, how do I know if it has detected the network card?
 
 I also have 7.04, just finished downloading it, should I use that instead?
 
 James

Hi James,

One of the ways you can see if it is detected is to open the Terminal 
(this can be found under the Applications menu - Accessories - 
Terminal) and then entering the command:

ifconfig

You should *hopefully* see a list of adaptors come up.  On my home 
machine running Ubuntu 7.04 I get eth0 which is the network card and lo 
which is the 'loopback' adaptor (kind of a virtual internal network card).

As Kris mentions, you may be worth hanging on until Thursday and 
downloading/trying Ubuntu 7.10.  I'm not back in my office until 
Thursday so if I can download the Ubuntu 7.10 ISO I will give it a try 
on my work machine (which is an Optiplex GX620).

Rob

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[ubuntu-uk] Training material

2007-10-16 Thread Rob Beard
Hi folks,

We've had a new member of the Devon  Cornwall LUG asking if there are 
any Ubuntu/Kubuntu training courses in the Plymouth area.  As far as I'm 
aware there currently isn't anything like that going on in the area..

I've mentioned about our local LUG maybe putting together some sort of 
training material to cover Gnome/KDE and making it kind of generic and 
not distro specific, and this got me thinking though, are there any 
training materials other than the screen casts?

Something that can be used in a classroom environment is ideal.

In the mean time I've pointed this new LUG member in the direction of 
the Ubuntu-UK web site (I mentioned there is a great mailing list and 
some really useful screen casts that can show her visually how to do 
things).

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620

2007-10-16 Thread Daniel Lamb
With 6.06 there are problems with the dell servers detecting the cards and I
believe it will be the same with the optiplexes, I would suggest using a
newer version than 6.06, I know it isn't as well supported but an newer
version will at least work out the bux.

Regards,
Daniel

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Beard
Sent: 16 October 2007 22:14
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; British Ubuntu Talk
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Networking with an Dell Optiplex GX620

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Rob,
 
 Um, how do I know if it has detected the network card?
 
 I also have 7.04, just finished downloading it, should I use that instead?
 
 James

Hi James,

One of the ways you can see if it is detected is to open the Terminal 
(this can be found under the Applications menu - Accessories - 
Terminal) and then entering the command:

ifconfig

You should *hopefully* see a list of adaptors come up.  On my home 
machine running Ubuntu 7.04 I get eth0 which is the network card and lo 
which is the 'loopback' adaptor (kind of a virtual internal network card).

As Kris mentions, you may be worth hanging on until Thursday and 
downloading/trying Ubuntu 7.10.  I'm not back in my office until 
Thursday so if I can download the Ubuntu 7.10 ISO I will give it a try 
on my work machine (which is an Optiplex GX620).

Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Training material

2007-10-16 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Rob,
On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 22:25 +0100, Rob Beard wrote:
 We've had a new member of the Devon  Cornwall LUG asking if there are 
 any Ubuntu/Kubuntu training courses in the Plymouth area.  As far as I'm 
 aware there currently isn't anything like that going on in the area..
 

Canonical (and the wider Ubunutu community) are currently developing an
Ubuntu Desktop course. It's not finished yet, but we're working on it a
chapter at a time. You can see the first drafts of some chapters here:- 

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training

Note: It really is early on in the development of this course, and it it
intended to be collaboratively edited, so if you see any omissions or
errors then you can check out the changes and modify them yourself. The
instructions for doing his are on this page:- 

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training/KnowledgeBase 

Alternatively make a list of gotchas and mail them to me and I'll make
sure they get considered/included/passed-on as appropriate.

 In the mean time I've pointed this new LUG member in the direction of 
 the Ubuntu-UK web site (I mentioned there is a great mailing list and 
 some really useful screen casts that can show her visually how to do 
 things).
 

Yay! We take requests too! 
http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Requests

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Training material

2007-10-16 Thread Rob Beard
Alan Pope wrote:
 Hi Rob,
 On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 22:25 +0100, Rob Beard wrote:
 We've had a new member of the Devon  Cornwall LUG asking if there are 
 any Ubuntu/Kubuntu training courses in the Plymouth area.  As far as I'm 
 aware there currently isn't anything like that going on in the area..

 
 Canonical (and the wider Ubunutu community) are currently developing an
 Ubuntu Desktop course. It's not finished yet, but we're working on it a
 chapter at a time. You can see the first drafts of some chapters here:- 
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
 
 Note: It really is early on in the development of this course, and it it
 intended to be collaboratively edited, so if you see any omissions or
 errors then you can check out the changes and modify them yourself. The
 instructions for doing his are on this page:- 
 
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training/KnowledgeBase 
 
 Alternatively make a list of gotchas and mail them to me and I'll make
 sure they get considered/included/passed-on as appropriate.
 
 In the mean time I've pointed this new LUG member in the direction of 
 the Ubuntu-UK web site (I mentioned there is a great mailing list and 
 some really useful screen casts that can show her visually how to do 
 things).

 
 Yay! We take requests too! 
 http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Requests
 
 Cheers,
 Al.
 

Great, thanks for those links Al.  I like the idea of running a 2 day 
course, I've mentioned it on my local LUG mailing list.

Rob


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[ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future

2007-10-16 Thread Jai Harrison
Hey,

I'm eighteen years old and I am on the second year of a BTEC National
Diploma for IT Practitioners. I'm looking at achieving either a DDM
(320 UCAS points) or DMM (280 UCAS points) at the end of the course. I
want to do Computer Science at University but I all of the good ones
want A level maths (which is something I don't have).

I'm wondering if I should take a university that doesn't need A level
maths, take A level maths and then University afterwards or just
generally give up and take another direction in life... I'm feeling
pretty lost and I figured that some of you must have gone through a
similar education path in the past.

- Jai

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future

2007-10-16 Thread Daniel Lamb
Experience is almost as important or even more important than degrees, my
advice would be find someone in your area then get some work with them if
you can, easy than it sounds I know you might even need to do it for free
but its good to get experience and then you will know what you want to focus
on. If you want to then work up to getting linux degrees or network with
cisco etc, can help you decide what part of IT you would want to work in as
it is a massive field.

Or if you like it you can be like some people(myself included) and get into
anything IT related from media players to massive servers. Which is fun, but
obviously pretty hard.

Regards,
Daniel 

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Sent: 16 October 2007 23:04
To: British Ubuntu Talk
Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future

Hey,

I'm eighteen years old and I am on the second year of a BTEC National
Diploma for IT Practitioners. I'm looking at achieving either a DDM
(320 UCAS points) or DMM (280 UCAS points) at the end of the course. I
want to do Computer Science at University but I all of the good ones
want A level maths (which is something I don't have).

I'm wondering if I should take a university that doesn't need A level
maths, take A level maths and then University afterwards or just
generally give up and take another direction in life... I'm feeling
pretty lost and I figured that some of you must have gone through a
similar education path in the past.

- Jai

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] How to delete all .m4a files from music library

2007-10-16 Thread Mac
Matthew Wild wrote:
 On 10/16/07, Mac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  (It would be nice
 to delete any directories that have become empty because they only had
 .m4a files in them - but that would be a bonus!)
 
 
 Going for the bonus!
 
 find ~/music/ -depth -type d -empty -exec rmdir {} \;
 
 Matthew
 
  PS. can anyone see why this does not work to do it all in one (ignoring the
 rm)?:
 find test/ -depth \( -type f -name '*.m4a' \) -o \( -type d -empty \) -exec
 rm {} \;
From what I understand in man find, the brackets are not even needed, since
 the default operator is AND. However this line does not print any matches
 for me, unless I remove the directory part.
 
 


Matthew  Thanks for the thought you put into this.  In fact I'd 
already done the deletions manually, as there turned out to be few empty 
directories.  But your solution, and question, look interesting - even 
though I don't yet understand how they do what they do.

Many thanks for your time and interest.

Mac



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future

2007-10-16 Thread Matthew Larsen
On 16/10/2007, Daniel Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Experience is almost as important or even more important than degrees, my
 advice would be find someone in your area then get some work with them if
 you can, easy than it sounds I know you might even need to do it for free
 but its good to get experience and then you will know what you want to focus
 on. If you want to then work up to getting linux degrees or network with
 cisco etc, can help you decide what part of IT you would want to work in as
 it is a massive field.

 Or if you like it you can be like some people(myself included) and get into
 anything IT related from media players to massive servers. Which is fun, but
 obviously pretty hard.

 Regards,
 Daniel

I agree with you ... to a point.

There are a number of factors to consider Jai:
1) What do you want to do. Research? Analysis? Consulting? Support?
2) Who do you want to work for. IBM / Sun / Yourself / local business
/ Cap Gemini / a school?
3) Who do you want to work with? IT professionals, leet haxors, your mates?
4) *Do you have the neccessary skills*. Can you explain a technical
concept to your mother? Can you go away and write a system given a few
months? Have you any proof of your skills?
5) *Do you have the neccessary qualifications*
6) *Do you have the neccessary experience*

The important ones I have marked out.

A degree in Computer Science will not teach you any of the soft
skills. It will not teach you any of the business skills. It will
teach you how to code, how to code well and all the underlying
knowledge you will need to build any computer system. Hence Computer
Science. If it means studying A level maths, study it. I had to and I
am pants at maths.

Qualifications (like MSCE, Java Certified Engineer) mean jack. Your CV
does your talking for you. Experience beats qualifications any day of
the week. The exception is a degree. Your degree is more than a piece
of paper saying: I can code in Java or I can fix a broken AD tree.
What anyone says about a degree being useless is wrong. Sorry. 90% of
employers will take the guy with the degree any day (for young people)
over someone who doesnt. If ANYTHING join the BCS. TBH anyone who
takes themselves seriously in computing is a member of the BCS.

Build your skillset now, while you still have a chance. Join the
clubs, join the open source mailing lists (employers really dig the
OSS stuff), play in bands, do stuff. This will make you a much more
rounded individual and you will gain so much experience doing this
stuff. Not to mention building up your network.

Do not fall into the typical IT trap of thinking your the dogs
bollocks. Do not spell Hyper-Text Markup Language wrong on your CV.
There will _always_ be something you don't know, or _someone_ who is
better than you. If you lie about what you can do, you *will* get
found out, and you *will* look like an idiot. Be honest, no-one is
expecting you to be perfect, and most employers would rather have
someone they can shape up and give new perspectives on things.

The most important thing is go with your instintcs. You shouldn't
force yourself to do something you will not enjoy for the rest of your
life. Likewise no-body is going to force you to do anything: you need
to decide what you want to do and go for it. If it doesnt work out,
chill, there is plenty of time to sort it out :-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Training material

2007-10-16 Thread Matthew Larsen
Alan, is there anything you _DON'T_ know?

I bet you don't know what my favourite brand of tea is!

On 16/10/2007, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alan Pope wrote:
  Hi Rob,
  On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 22:25 +0100, Rob Beard wrote:
  We've had a new member of the Devon  Cornwall LUG asking if there are
  any Ubuntu/Kubuntu training courses in the Plymouth area.  As far as I'm
  aware there currently isn't anything like that going on in the area..
 
 
  Canonical (and the wider Ubunutu community) are currently developing an
  Ubuntu Desktop course. It's not finished yet, but we're working on it a
  chapter at a time. You can see the first drafts of some chapters here:-
 
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training
 
  Note: It really is early on in the development of this course, and it it
  intended to be collaboratively edited, so if you see any omissions or
  errors then you can check out the changes and modify them yourself. The
  instructions for doing his are on this page:-
 
  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training/KnowledgeBase
 
  Alternatively make a list of gotchas and mail them to me and I'll make
  sure they get considered/included/passed-on as appropriate.
 
  In the mean time I've pointed this new LUG member in the direction of
  the Ubuntu-UK web site (I mentioned there is a great mailing list and
  some really useful screen casts that can show her visually how to do
  things).
 
 
  Yay! We take requests too!
  http://screencasts.ubuntu.com/Requests
 
  Cheers,
  Al.
 

 Great, thanks for those links Al.  I like the idea of running a 2 day
 course, I've mentioned it on my local LUG mailing list.

 Rob


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[ubuntu-uk] BBC to develop Flash-based iPlayer for Linux

2007-10-16 Thread Kris Marsh
By adopting the Adobe Flash(r) Player software, the BBC will make its
free catch-up TV service – BBC iPlayer – available as a streaming
service across Macintosh and Linux(r), as well as Microsoft
Windows(r), by the end of the year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/10_october/16/adobe.shtml


Apologies if this is not news to anyone, it's news to me!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future

2007-10-16 Thread Daniel Lamb
Matthew, kind of what I was getting at, but you said it a lot better!

Jai just remember a job should be fun as well, don't pick IT due to it being
well paid some people enjoy being a bus driver, make sure your happy, trust
me money isn't everything, also depending what aspects of IT you get into
its not as well paid as you think.

Daniel

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Larsen
Sent: 17 October 2007 00:06
To: British Ubuntu Talk
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future

On 16/10/2007, Daniel Lamb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Experience is almost as important or even more important than degrees, my
 advice would be find someone in your area then get some work with them if
 you can, easy than it sounds I know you might even need to do it for free
 but its good to get experience and then you will know what you want to
focus
 on. If you want to then work up to getting linux degrees or network with
 cisco etc, can help you decide what part of IT you would want to work in
as
 it is a massive field.

 Or if you like it you can be like some people(myself included) and get
into
 anything IT related from media players to massive servers. Which is fun,
but
 obviously pretty hard.

 Regards,
 Daniel

I agree with you ... to a point.

There are a number of factors to consider Jai:
1) What do you want to do. Research? Analysis? Consulting? Support?
2) Who do you want to work for. IBM / Sun / Yourself / local business
/ Cap Gemini / a school?
3) Who do you want to work with? IT professionals, leet haxors, your mates?
4) *Do you have the neccessary skills*. Can you explain a technical
concept to your mother? Can you go away and write a system given a few
months? Have you any proof of your skills?
5) *Do you have the neccessary qualifications*
6) *Do you have the neccessary experience*

The important ones I have marked out.

A degree in Computer Science will not teach you any of the soft
skills. It will not teach you any of the business skills. It will
teach you how to code, how to code well and all the underlying
knowledge you will need to build any computer system. Hence Computer
Science. If it means studying A level maths, study it. I had to and I
am pants at maths.

Qualifications (like MSCE, Java Certified Engineer) mean jack. Your CV
does your talking for you. Experience beats qualifications any day of
the week. The exception is a degree. Your degree is more than a piece
of paper saying: I can code in Java or I can fix a broken AD tree.
What anyone says about a degree being useless is wrong. Sorry. 90% of
employers will take the guy with the degree any day (for young people)
over someone who doesnt. If ANYTHING join the BCS. TBH anyone who
takes themselves seriously in computing is a member of the BCS.

Build your skillset now, while you still have a chance. Join the
clubs, join the open source mailing lists (employers really dig the
OSS stuff), play in bands, do stuff. This will make you a much more
rounded individual and you will gain so much experience doing this
stuff. Not to mention building up your network.

Do not fall into the typical IT trap of thinking your the dogs
bollocks. Do not spell Hyper-Text Markup Language wrong on your CV.
There will _always_ be something you don't know, or _someone_ who is
better than you. If you lie about what you can do, you *will* get
found out, and you *will* look like an idiot. Be honest, no-one is
expecting you to be perfect, and most employers would rather have
someone they can shape up and give new perspectives on things.

The most important thing is go with your instintcs. You shouldn't
force yourself to do something you will not enjoy for the rest of your
life. Likewise no-body is going to force you to do anything: you need
to decide what you want to do and go for it. If it doesnt work out,
chill, there is plenty of time to sort it out :-)

Hope that helps,
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[ubuntu-uk] Clean install with separate home partition questions

2007-10-16 Thread Josh Blacker
Hi guys,

Am currently all booted up in gutsy rc live cd, but going through the
installer it doesn't seem to be very intelligent about me having user
profiles in my /home partition. It detects the ones from my Windows
partition, but not the Ubuntu ones. Any ideas on why this is, and why
I am prompted to enter new user information? I would have thought it
would be able to see my exisiting Ubuntu /home.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clean install with separate home partition questions

2007-10-16 Thread Josh Blacker
On 10/17/07, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 23:38 +, Josh Blacker wrote:
  Am currently all booted up in gutsy rc live cd, but going through the
  installer it doesn't seem to be very intelligent about me having user
  profiles in my /home partition. It detects the ones from my Windows
  partition, but not the Ubuntu ones. Any ideas on why this is, and why
  I am prompted to enter new user information? I would have thought it
  would be able to see my exisiting Ubuntu /home.
 

 Well, there's nothing to import from your existing home directory is
 there? If you want to use that partition, all that Gutsy needs to know
 is where it is, and it will mount it.

Surely then, there should be no need to come up with new user
information, that's my point - a little counterintuitive. I understand
where you're coming from, though.


 So during the partition section you need to specify which partition you
 want to be swap, which is / and which is /home. Make sure you tell it
 not to format /home, but it will want to format / I suspect :)

The annoying thing is, the installer lists my partitions as
/media/sda1 etc, but Nautilus as /media/disk etc, which don't even
seem to correspond! I may have to jump in and pray for the best...
Perhaps I'm just being tired and slow!

 Cheers,
 Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Advice for the future

2007-10-16 Thread Dave Walker

On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 23:04 +0100, Jai Harrison wrote:
 Hey,
 
 I'm eighteen years old and I am on the second year of a BTEC National
 Diploma for IT Practitioners. I'm looking at achieving either a DDM
 (320 UCAS points) or DMM (280 UCAS points) at the end of the course. I
 want to do Computer Science at University but I all of the good ones
 want A level maths (which is something I don't have).
 
 I'm wondering if I should take a university that doesn't need A level
 maths, take A level maths and then University afterwards or just
 generally give up and take another direction in life... I'm feeling
 pretty lost and I figured that some of you must have gone through a
 similar education path in the past.
 
 - Jai
 

Hi Jai,

When I was your age, I had no idea what I wanted to do - infact I wasn't
sure i even wanted to attend a university.  At least you know what you
want to do, just not how to achieve it.

I would be inclined to contact the admissions department of a university
that interests you.  When I was at University I had a friend who
practically failed all his A-levels and was still accepted for Computer
Science BSc.  I'm sure things haven't changed that much, so you may be
in luck.

It makes me quite angry that BTEC's etc are 'sold' to school leavers as
equivalent; but the university's don't make it particularly easy.  I
think the Diploma being in a related field will certainly help your
application.

One option most universities offer is an additional first year for
people that don't get grades they wanted.  Another option might be
'clearing'; but you will have to be fast.   One slightly risky solution
you could follow, is to pick a similar course that has fewer entry
requirements (such as Computing), then convert to CS mid-course (I
know of somebody that did this).

As I said, the best people to talk to are the admission departments -
they will offer the best advice.

Whatever you chose, don't get despondent - if you want to go to
university there is normally a way in.  Keep us posted on what happens,
and good luck.

Hope this helps.

Kind Regards,
Dave Walker 
(BSc Computer Science) 


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