Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on less sizeable screens?

2007-12-13 Thread Kris Douglas
On 13/12/2007, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:27:31PM +, Kris Douglas wrote:
> > Hi, I have been reading about seeing Ubuntu running on the EEE pc and
> it's
> > come to my attention that there is a problem with the screen size of the
> > installer and some of the main configuration windows.
>
> This was discussed at UDS in Boston. As I understand it the main problem
> with ubiquity is the timezone selection screen which pushes up the window
> size.
>
> There is a specification/blueprint being worked on right now to resolve
> this
> I believe:-
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyUbiquityUsability
> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardy-ubiquity-usability
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
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Thanks Al, thats a good thing to start with :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on less sizeable screens?

2007-12-13 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:27:31PM +, Kris Douglas wrote:
> Hi, I have been reading about seeing Ubuntu running on the EEE pc and it's
> come to my attention that there is a problem with the screen size of the
> installer and some of the main configuration windows. 

This was discussed at UDS in Boston. As I understand it the main problem 
with ubiquity is the timezone selection screen which pushes up the window 
size.

There is a specification/blueprint being worked on right now to resolve this 
I believe:-

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyUbiquityUsability
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/hardy-ubiquity-usability

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] pc parts compatibility

2007-12-13 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:31:32PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
> Farran wrote:
> > hi all
> > building a computer just for personal use, selected all the parts form 
> > novatech:
> > Hard  Drive 


Doh! Reading mail in a plain text mail client, I didn't see the URLs, sorry.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on less sizeable screens?

2007-12-13 Thread Kris Douglas
On 13/12/2007, James Grabham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Use the alternate installer??
>
> Text based installers should work fine
>
> On Dec 13, 2007 9:27 PM, Kris Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Hi, I have been reading about seeing Ubuntu running on the EEE pc and
> > it's come to my attention that there is a problem with the screen size of
> > the installer and some of the main configuration windows. I have also
> > experienced this on some of the much older hardware that I own, where I have
> > to drag the window off the screen to access the button to continue.
> >
> > I was just wondering if it would be possible to scale the size of the
> > windows of the installer, or automatically scale the fonts to fit the screen
> > size, as a couple of people i know have had quite a lot of difficulty
> > getting their head around this problem on smaller displays. Just a couple of
> > points that I wanted to bring up, I don't imagine it's possible
> > automatically without re making the installer for Ubuntu, which is high end
> > stuff, but you know, just something to put to the people...
> >
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>
>

...Tell that to someone that is scared of the run command in windows... This
person would think it wasn't working properly, i like the text based
installer actually, but that's not what I was focusing on mostly, the thing
I was focusing on was the fact that some of the actual settings panels like
mythbuntu etc. don't actually fit on either...


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] pc parts compatibility

2007-12-13 Thread Kris Douglas
On 13/12/2007, Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kris Douglas wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm not advertising against novatech, but some of the prices on there
> > are much more expensive than www.Aria.co.uk ,
> > they're based in Manchester and have some good hardware prices (I'm not
> > associated in any way, but i have never found anywhere with better
> > prices for hardware, and because they include lots of specifics, you can
> > see if the hardware is supported on Linux, like most of the Jetway
> > motherboards don't work on Ubuntu for some odd reason...
> >
>
> Yup, Aria are pretty good, I've used them before in the past, as well as
> eBuyer.
>
> Didn't know that about the Jetway motherboards.
>
> Rob
>
> 


Nor did I until I got about 4 of the flippin' things.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Central authentication in Ubuntu

2007-12-13 Thread Chris Rowson
Ooooh,

I do see that "One step windows domain joining ability" is labeled as
an essential blueprint for Hardy :-)

https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/windows-authentication-integration

That should help promote Ubuntu takeup in the enterprise.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (marketing) Ubuntu leaflets

2007-12-13 Thread Chris Rowson
> Dianne Reuby wrote:
> > I've been looking at the Ubuntu leaflets
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKMarketing/Leaflets - none of them seem to
> > include a link to ubuntuforums.com in the "getting help" sections. Is
> > there any reason for this?
>

Hi Dianne,

The graphical leaflet which I helped write the text for does tell
users where to get support.

Although it doesn't link to ubuntuforums.com directly, it does give a
link to ubuntu.com/support which in turn lists ubuntuforums.com as a
support option ;-) I thought it probably better to link to the support
page, so that users realise that they can either get ad hoc support
for free, or pay a professional company for it.

That said, the source files for the leaflets are there, so if you'd
like to use them but would rather that they did point to
ubuntuforums.com, you can always edit them to your preference.

Hope that answers your question.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Case stickers

2007-12-13 Thread Rob Beard
Alan Pope wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 08:27:43PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
>> I think either laminated paper stickers or metal stickers would be ideal 
>> and better hard wearing.
>>
> 
> The ones I have are metal :)
> 
> Let me know if you want some.
> 
> Cheers,
> Al.
> 

Yep, I did send you an e-mail off list.  I'm certainly interested in a 
couple.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] pc parts compatibility

2007-12-13 Thread Rob Beard
Kris Douglas wrote:

> 
> I'm not advertising against novatech, but some of the prices on there 
> are much more expensive than www.Aria.co.uk , 
> they're based in Manchester and have some good hardware prices (I'm not 
> associated in any way, but i have never found anywhere with better 
> prices for hardware, and because they include lots of specifics, you can 
> see if the hardware is supported on Linux, like most of the Jetway 
> motherboards don't work on Ubuntu for some odd reason...
> 

Yup, Aria are pretty good, I've used them before in the past, as well as 
eBuyer.

Didn't know that about the Jetway motherboards.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] pc parts compatibility

2007-12-13 Thread James Grabham
I couldn help but think that it all looked a bit pricey.

I agree to go with aria, it is the best site Ive ever used, and it is SO
cheap!!

Also whats wrong with the on-board sound?

On Dec 13, 2007 9:31 PM, Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Farran wrote:
> > hi all
> > building a computer just for personal use, selected all the parts form
> > novatech:
> > Hard  Drive
> > 
> > Motherboard 
> > Bundle 
> > Graphics 
> > Card 
> > Optical 
> > Drive 
> > Sound  Card
> > 
> > Keyboard 
> > Mouse 
> > This costs £621.47.
> >
> > Wondered if anyone has used these parts or knows whether they work with
> > Linux - a friend reminded me that some of the newer hardware won't work,
> > for example, the quad core processor maybe?
> > If any of these wouldn't be best and you have a better choice, please
> say :P
> > thanks, Farran
> >
>
> Looks okay to me, you'll probably need the NVidia drivers for the
> graphics card.
>
> Just wondering on two things...
>
> 1. Why did you choose a seperate sound card (I mean, isn't the onboard
> audio sufficient, because the card you've chosen as an extra wouldn't be
> much better than the on-board audio - would be different if you went for
> a Sound Blaster Audigy or something).
>
> 2. Do you plan on upgrading to two video cards in SLI?  If not, why
> spend the extra for an SLI board?  I think you'd probably save yourself
> a few quid not going for an SLI board which could be put to a board with
> an Intel Chipset.
>
> Quad core CPU should be fine, at least I would have thought so.  I would
> have thought it would be detected as 4 individual CPUs like a dual core
> would be detected as 2 CPUs.  I hope thats the case anyway as I'm
> considering an upgrade to quad core (although I haven't made my mind up
> yet if it's worth the extra money).
>
> Looks like a fairly good setup.
>
> Rob
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on less sizeable screens?

2007-12-13 Thread James Grabham
Use the alternate installer??

Text based installers should work fine

On Dec 13, 2007 9:27 PM, Kris Douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi, I have been reading about seeing Ubuntu running on the EEE pc and it's
> come to my attention that there is a problem with the screen size of the
> installer and some of the main configuration windows. I have also
> experienced this on some of the much older hardware that I own, where I have
> to drag the window off the screen to access the button to continue.
>
> I was just wondering if it would be possible to scale the size of the
> windows of the installer, or automatically scale the fonts to fit the screen
> size, as a couple of people i know have had quite a lot of difficulty
> getting their head around this problem on smaller displays. Just a couple of
> points that I wanted to bring up, I don't imagine it's possible
> automatically without re making the installer for Ubuntu, which is high end
> stuff, but you know, just something to put to the people...
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] pc parts compatibility

2007-12-13 Thread Rob Beard
Farran wrote:
> hi all
> building a computer just for personal use, selected all the parts form 
> novatech:
> Hard  Drive 
> 
> Motherboard  
> Bundle 
> Graphics  
> Card 
> Optical  
> Drive 
> Sound  Card 
> 
> Keyboard 
> Mouse 
> This costs £621.47.
> 
> Wondered if anyone has used these parts or knows whether they work with 
> Linux - a friend reminded me that some of the newer hardware won't work, 
> for example, the quad core processor maybe?
> If any of these wouldn't be best and you have a better choice, please say :P
> thanks, Farran
> 

Looks okay to me, you'll probably need the NVidia drivers for the 
graphics card.

Just wondering on two things...

1. Why did you choose a seperate sound card (I mean, isn't the onboard 
audio sufficient, because the card you've chosen as an extra wouldn't be 
much better than the on-board audio - would be different if you went for 
a Sound Blaster Audigy or something).

2. Do you plan on upgrading to two video cards in SLI?  If not, why 
spend the extra for an SLI board?  I think you'd probably save yourself 
a few quid not going for an SLI board which could be put to a board with 
an Intel Chipset.

Quad core CPU should be fine, at least I would have thought so.  I would 
have thought it would be detected as 4 individual CPUs like a dual core 
would be detected as 2 CPUs.  I hope thats the case anyway as I'm 
considering an upgrade to quad core (although I haven't made my mind up 
yet if it's worth the extra money).

Looks like a fairly good setup.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] pc parts compatibility

2007-12-13 Thread Kris Douglas
On 13/12/2007, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 08:50:39PM +, Farran wrote:
> > hi all
> > building a computer just for personal use, selected all the parts form
> > novatech:
> > Hard Drive
> > Motherboard Bundle
> > Graphics Card
> > Optical Drive
> > Sound Card
> > Keyboard
> > Mouse
> > This costs £621.47.
> >
>
> Difficult to tell without specific makes and model numbers to be honest.
> That said, the vast majority of hardware these days works just fine with
> Linux.
>
> > Wondered if anyone has used these parts or knows whether they work with
> > Linux - a friend reminded me that some of the newer hardware won't work,
> > for example, the quad core processor maybe?
>
> The processor should be fine, but the motherboard may have some quirks.
> Again, difficult to tell without model numbers.
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
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I'm not advertising against novatech, but some of the prices on there are
much more expensive than www.Aria.co.uk, they're based in Manchester and
have some good hardware prices (I'm not associated in any way, but i have
never found anywhere with better prices for hardware, and because they
include lots of specifics, you can see if the hardware is supported on
Linux, like most of the Jetway motherboards don't work on Ubuntu for some
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[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on less sizeable screens?

2007-12-13 Thread Kris Douglas
Hi, I have been reading about seeing Ubuntu running on the EEE pc and it's
come to my attention that there is a problem with the screen size of the
installer and some of the main configuration windows. I have also
experienced this on some of the much older hardware that I own, where I have
to drag the window off the screen to access the button to continue.

I was just wondering if it would be possible to scale the size of the
windows of the installer, or automatically scale the fonts to fit the screen
size, as a couple of people i know have had quite a lot of difficulty
getting their head around this problem on smaller displays. Just a couple of
points that I wanted to bring up, I don't imagine it's possible
automatically without re making the installer for Ubuntu, which is high end
stuff, but you know, just something to put to the people...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] pc parts compatibility

2007-12-13 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 08:50:39PM +, Farran wrote:
> hi all
> building a computer just for personal use, selected all the parts form
> novatech:
> Hard Drive
> Motherboard Bundle
> Graphics Card
> Optical Drive
> Sound Card
> Keyboard
> Mouse
> This costs £621.47.
> 

Difficult to tell without specific makes and model numbers to be honest. 
That said, the vast majority of hardware these days works just fine with 
Linux.

> Wondered if anyone has used these parts or knows whether they work with
> Linux - a friend reminded me that some of the newer hardware won't work,
> for example, the quad core processor maybe?

The processor should be fine, but the motherboard may have some quirks. 
Again, difficult to tell without model numbers.

Cheers,
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[ubuntu-uk] pc parts compatibility

2007-12-13 Thread Farran
hi all
building a computer just for personal use, selected all the parts form
novatech:
Hard Drive
Motherboard Bundle
Graphics Card
Optical Drive
Sound Card
Keyboard
Mouse
This costs £621.47.

Wondered if anyone has used these parts or knows whether they work with
Linux - a friend reminded me that some of the newer hardware won't work,
for example, the quad core processor maybe?
If any of these wouldn't be best and you have a better choice, please
say :P
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Case stickers

2007-12-13 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 08:27:43PM +, Rob Beard wrote:
> I think either laminated paper stickers or metal stickers would be ideal 
> and better hard wearing.
> 

The ones I have are metal :)

Let me know if you want some.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Case stickers

2007-12-13 Thread Kris Douglas
On 13/12/2007, Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Kris Douglas wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 13/12/2007, *Pete Stean* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > wrote:
> >
> > I got a nice sheet of stickers which came with the official Gutsy
> > discs that I ordered by post recently through Shipit... I wonder if
> > you can actually request them separately??
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> > That's a point, those damn stickers look cool, but try rubbing your
> > finger over one of them, it all smudges off... Need to get Canonical to
> > have a look at sourcing some better free ones :)
> >
>
> I think either laminated paper stickers or metal stickers would be ideal
> and better hard wearing.
>
> Rob
>
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But don't you think the Ubuntu guys should do something about the stickers
they have in the shops, my sister managed to desecrate one by just opening a
laptop, I had one underneath my keyboard on my laptop, and that went
completely white...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Case stickers

2007-12-13 Thread Rob Beard
Kris Douglas wrote:
> 
> 
> On 13/12/2007, *Pete Stean* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> 
> I got a nice sheet of stickers which came with the official Gutsy
> discs that I ordered by post recently through Shipit... I wonder if
> you can actually request them separately??
> 
> 
> 
> 
> That's a point, those damn stickers look cool, but try rubbing your 
> finger over one of them, it all smudges off... Need to get Canonical to 
> have a look at sourcing some better free ones :)
> 

I think either laminated paper stickers or metal stickers would be ideal 
and better hard wearing.

Rob


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problems with the latest Seagates?

2007-12-13 Thread alan c
Paul Tansom wrote:
> ** Mac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-09 19:27]:
>> You may have seen this report about problems with the latest Seagate USB 
>> drives with GNU/Linux:
>> 
>> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/12/06/seagate-snubs-linux
>> 
>> Does anyone know how accurate this is?  I've been thinking of getting a 
>> 500Gb USB drive, and I've tended to use Seagates in the past.  I may 
>> need to think again.  What do you reckon?  How about Maxtor instead? 
>> (Yes, I know, Seagate owns them, too;  but I don't think the redesign 
>> has included Maxtors - yet???)
> ** end quote [Mac]
> 
> Sounds like the purchase of Maxtor has dragged Seagate down to their
> level to me. I've stopped purchasing Maxtor drives because of the high
> fallout rate I've experienced. That's based on PATA drives, not SATA,
> SCSI or anything fitted into an enclosure of any form.
> 
> As an aside, I can't quite believe that artical actually contained "are
> not compatible with the Open Sauce operating system Linux". Personally I
> always put the top back on my sauces, so they are rarely left open ;)
> 

The power saving system is the problem and although it can be 
disabled, (using something like
sdparm --clear STANDBY -6 /dev/sd[Your device] )  I believe seagate do 
not accept it as covered by warranty. It is not simply a matter of 
fomatting the (NTFS) drive. I certainly will not be putting any money 
seagate (or maxtor) way until further notice!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (marketing) Ubuntu leaflets

2007-12-13 Thread alan c
Dianne Reuby wrote:
> I've been looking at the Ubuntu leaflets
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKMarketing/Leaflets - none of them seem to
> include a link to ubuntuforums.com in the "getting help" sections. Is
> there any reason for this?

The leaflets from myself are either non Ubuntu specific (but with a 
bias) or are close copies of the Shipit pack information.
For generalised leaflets, a specific link is not really appropriate, 
and the shipit packs have their own direction.

I have often found that really new users - undoubtably windows users - 
are so nervous that a busy and well organised forum, however patient 
and friendly, is often too scary an idea for them until they are more 
committed and have gathered more faith in the open source world 
because they are talking to faceless people. My leaflets point readers 
towards local forums where they have a choice to actually meet people 
if they choose, and I verbally encourage contact with ubuntu forums.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Case stickers

2007-12-13 Thread Kris Douglas
On 13/12/2007, Pete Stean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I got a nice sheet of stickers which came with the official Gutsy
> discs that I ordered by post recently through Shipit... I wonder if
> you can actually request them separately??
>
> 
>

That's a point, those damn stickers look cool, but try rubbing your finger
over one of them, it all smudges off... Need to get Canonical to have a look
at sourcing some better free ones :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Central authentication in Ubuntu

2007-12-13 Thread Chris Rowson
>  It did with NIS
>
>  I had to give the clients the IP address of the NIS server and edit the
> user and password files to point there (best way i could think of saying
> it).
>  This was carried out by editing various text files in /etc
>
>  In fact looking back on it, apart from some head bang wall moments, it was
> quite simple if you followed the guides.
>
>  If you dont want to edit the files, Bimble over to http://www.webmin.com/
> and have a look.
>  I found this the other day and you install it on the server machine to give
> you a web interface for pretty much everything.
>
>  If i had known about it at the beginning it would been easier to set the
> system up but at least i have managed to get some command line experience.

Hi again,

Fiddling with the command line doesn't bother me too much. I run some
Linux stuff (proxy and web servers) here as well as Windows so its not
too bad. Its just the time it takes to do it versus point and click
;-)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 32

2007-12-13 Thread Clare Shepherd

On 13 Dec 2007, at 12:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> We could go for guerrilla warfare and attack PC World...
>
> "Ubuntu Ready"...
>
> Only problem is that they wouldn't see the funny side... we'd  
> probably be
> done for criminal damage :-(
>
> Sean


Isn't the criminal damage the pre_installed OS, namely Vista?
Clare

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Central authentication in Ubuntu

2007-12-13 Thread Michael Rimicans

It did with NIS

I had to give the clients the IP address of the NIS server and edit the 
user and password files to point there (best way i could think of saying 
it).

This was carried out by editing various text files in /etc

In fact looking back on it, apart from some head bang wall moments, it 
was quite simple if you followed the guides.


If you dont want to edit the files, Bimble over to 
http://www.webmin.com/ and have a look.
I found this the other day and you install it on the server machine to 
give you a web interface for pretty much everything.


If i had known about it at the beginning it would been easier to set the 
system up but at least i have managed to get some command line experience.


Chris Rowson wrote:

Greetings,

Ive just achieved similar us NIS. It took me a few days but I
managed to get it working:

This helped: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/36

Also there is something called LDAP but thats for another day with me.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer

Have fun

Michael



Hi Michael,

Thanks for that -

LDAP is the standard Active Directory runs on (well, kinda - although
MS has bastardised it a bit). I'm reasonably comfortable with that and
wouldn't mind giving it a go. One thing that confuses me is how to
configure the client side (ie join a domain etc). I'm guessing it'll
all be on the command line.

Chris

  


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Central authentication in Ubuntu

2007-12-13 Thread Chris Rowson
> Greetings,
>
> Ive just achieved similar us NIS. It took me a few days but I
> managed to get it working:
>
> This helped: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/36
>
> Also there is something called LDAP but thats for another day with me.
>
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
>
> Have fun
>
> Michael

Hi Michael,

Thanks for that -

LDAP is the standard Active Directory runs on (well, kinda - although
MS has bastardised it a bit). I'm reasonably comfortable with that and
wouldn't mind giving it a go. One thing that confuses me is how to
configure the client side (ie join a domain etc). I'm guessing it'll
all be on the command line.

Chris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Central authentication in Ubuntu

2007-12-13 Thread Michael Rimicans
Sorry, forgot something else:

http://www.ltsp.org/

also might be of help.

Chris Rowson wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> I've been wondering for a while, how I could put in place some kind of
> central authentication for a series of Ubuntu desktops/laptops.
>
> At work, I achieve this using Active Directory and Windows, but I
> wondered if there was a Linuxified version of this setup. I've been
> thinking of volunteering to get some community IT access up in the
> local area, and of course being able to configure PCs centrally would
> be great. There wouldn't be a great deal of money, so setting up a
> Windows Domain would be out of the question.
>
> So, whats out there that would allow me to create users/passwords
> centrally (but perhaps still allow laptops to cache credentials),
> would allow me to have automatically mapped file storage (like a
> mapped network drive in Windows), and if possible, help me to apply
> some level of desktop configuration?
>
> Any advice?
>
> Chris
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Central authentication in Ubuntu

2007-12-13 Thread Michael Rimicans
Greetings,

Ive just achieved similar us NIS. It took me a few days but I 
managed to get it working:

This helped: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/36

Also there is something called LDAP but thats for another day with me.

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer

Have fun


Michael


Chris Rowson wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> I've been wondering for a while, how I could put in place some kind of
> central authentication for a series of Ubuntu desktops/laptops.
>
> At work, I achieve this using Active Directory and Windows, but I
> wondered if there was a Linuxified version of this setup. I've been
> thinking of volunteering to get some community IT access up in the
> local area, and of course being able to configure PCs centrally would
> be great. There wouldn't be a great deal of money, so setting up a
> Windows Domain would be out of the question.
>
> So, whats out there that would allow me to create users/passwords
> centrally (but perhaps still allow laptops to cache credentials),
> would allow me to have automatically mapped file storage (like a
> mapped network drive in Windows), and if possible, help me to apply
> some level of desktop configuration?
>
> Any advice?
>
> Chris
>
>   




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[ubuntu-uk] Central authentication in Ubuntu

2007-12-13 Thread Chris Rowson
Hello folks,

I've been wondering for a while, how I could put in place some kind of
central authentication for a series of Ubuntu desktops/laptops.

At work, I achieve this using Active Directory and Windows, but I
wondered if there was a Linuxified version of this setup. I've been
thinking of volunteering to get some community IT access up in the
local area, and of course being able to configure PCs centrally would
be great. There wouldn't be a great deal of money, so setting up a
Windows Domain would be out of the question.

So, whats out there that would allow me to create users/passwords
centrally (but perhaps still allow laptops to cache credentials),
would allow me to have automatically mapped file storage (like a
mapped network drive in Windows), and if possible, help me to apply
some level of desktop configuration?

Any advice?

Chris

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Plugin locations

2007-12-13 Thread Michael Rimicans
And also making sure you have got the necessary plug ins installed on 
your test system helps. :-[

Stops you from getting confused as to why it 'aint working.

Ooops

Michael


Alan Pope wrote:

On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 02:09:50PM +, Michael Rimicans wrote:
  
When you install plugins (eg. gstreamer etc...) are they availible for 
all users on a system or just for who installed them?





Basically anything that requires you to enter your password is available to 
all users. This includes anything installed via synaptic, add/remove, 
apt-get, aptitude. 

Anything installed as a browser plugin/extension which does _not_ ask for 
your password is installed in your own home directory and as such is only 
available for that user.


Cheers,
Al.

  


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Plugin locations

2007-12-13 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 02:09:50PM +, Michael Rimicans wrote:
> When you install plugins (eg. gstreamer etc...) are they availible for 
> all users on a system or just for who installed them?
> 

Basically anything that requires you to enter your password is available to 
all users. This includes anything installed via synaptic, add/remove, 
apt-get, aptitude. 

Anything installed as a browser plugin/extension which does _not_ ask for 
your password is installed in your own home directory and as such is only 
available for that user.

Cheers,
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[ubuntu-uk] Plugin locations

2007-12-13 Thread Michael Rimicans
Greetings,

When you install plugins (eg. gstreamer etc...) are they availible for 
all users on a system or just for who installed them?

Reason I ask is that I have set up a small (5 pc's, one server) network 
and have a number of users that will be using them.

I managed how to set up flash so it is installed into a users home dir 
when the user is added by placing the required files in /etc/skel

So is there a way to do it for the other plugins (mp3 and so forth)

Yours

Michael



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 32, Issue 32

2007-12-13 Thread Dianne Reuby


On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 12:00 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> We could go for guerrilla warfare and attack PC World...
> 
> "Ubuntu Ready"...
> 
> Only problem is that they wouldn't see the funny side... we'd probably
> be
> done for criminal damage :-(
> 
> Sean

Most of their stuff needs Win95 stickers. :) 

If PC World is reading this - sue if you want, I'm broke already. :)

Dianne


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Shorewall internet sharing problems

2007-12-13 Thread Michael Rimicans
All sorted. Just me being a mong and not setting up the resolv.conf properly

Thanks

Michael

Tony Arnold wrote:
> Michael,
>
> Michael Rimicans wrote:
>   
>> Greetings.
>>
>>  Can any one show me the error of my ways with the following:
>>
>>  Have set up shorewall on a gateway system to provide security and net 
>> sharing duties.
>>  After banging my head against a wall it has finally allowed me to 
>> connect a networked computer through to the wifi router.
>>
>>  Now heres where the problem lies.
>>
>>  I'm able to connect to the router (192.168 blah blah) with no problems 
>> but when I try to surf elsewhere nothing
>>  happens.
>>
>>  I'm able to ping the isp's dns server and get a reply and have tried 
>> placing the address in the resolv.conf file on the gateway with no joy.
>> 
>
> If you can ping from the client through the gateway and your router and
> get a reply back, then basic routing seems to be working.
>
> Your comment above implies it may be a DNS problem. If you type
>
>   host www.ubuntu.com
>
> in a terminal window, do you get a sensible response?
>
> Is the client getting its IP address and DNS information via DHCP from
> the gateway? What has it provided for the address of the DNS server? If
> it's the gateway, then you should check the gateway is configured to act
> as a DNS proxy, or you could set the DNS address manually in the client
> (edit resolv.conf) to the address of the ISP's DNS and see if that helps.
>
> Just some things I would look at.
>
> Regards,
> Tony.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] No title bar on windows.

2007-12-13 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 12/12/2007, Neil Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Andy,
>
> On 11/12/2007, Andrew Jenkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've been playing around with the Advanced Desktop
> > Effects Settings.  Since this, everytime I open a
> > window/application it opens with the top of the
> > window at the top edge of the screen and the 'title
> > bar' (the bit above the menu bar) off the top edge of
> > the screen.  The only way I can get to it is to right-
> > click the application on the lower applications open
> > panel and click the 'move', whereupon I can drag the
> > window back down a little and reveal the title bar.
> >
> > [snip]
> Every time I reboot, I have a couple of saved windows/apps opening up
> as part of the session - a GEdit window and a gnome-terminal, and
> maybe a Nautilus directory window.

When I booted last night, the gnome-terminal was fine, with the title
bar displayed touching the panel, but not under it. The GEdit window's
title bar was under the panel.

I'd closed the Nautilus window, so just these two were opened when I logged in.

Cofion,
Neil.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Case stickers

2007-12-13 Thread Pete Stean
I got a nice sheet of stickers which came with the official Gutsy
discs that I ordered by post recently through Shipit... I wonder if
you can actually request them separately??


Pete


On 12/13/07, Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/12/07, Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maybe I should buy a bulk load and start replacing the stickers on PCs
> > at work.
>
> We could go for guerrilla warfare and attack PC World...
>
> "Ubuntu Ready"...
>
> Only problem is that they wouldn't see the funny side... we'd probably be
> done for criminal damage :-(
>
> Sean
>
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