Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythtv
On Wednesday 27 May 2009 21:53:16 Tony Travis wrote: > norman wrote: > >>> [...] > > > > I suppose it would help if I understood what it was all about. Forgive > > me but I am not very bright about these things. However, let's assume > > that something has changed but the software I am using doesn't know that > > and, therefore, is still looking for the old /dev/dvd. Is it possible to > > put into the appropriate place an instruction which will allow the > > software to find the dvd drive? > > Hello, Norman. > > The 'old' /dev/dvd was a symbolic link created when you originally > installed Ubuntu. The Ubuntu installer detects your hardware, and sets > your /dev directory up accordingly. However, every time you boot Ubuntu > it checks to see if anything has changed. If it has, "udev" remembers > the old device in case you use it again, and creates a new symbolic link > for any new devices it detects when you boot - In your case /dev/dvd1. > > The place where "udev" stores this 'persistent' information is: > >/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules > > You can edit this file to make "udev" point /dev/dvd at your drive if > you want. However, it might be a bit confusing if you've not done this > sort of thing before. My advice is to have a look at the file anyway, > and see if you can work out what happened to your /dev/dvd. If you post > the contents of the file here, we might be able to help you work it out. I find it easier in cases like this to simply rename 70-persistant-cd.rules as 70-persistant-cd.rules~ and reboot, Ubuntu will create a new set of rules when it discovers the file missing. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythtv
norman wrote: >>> [...] > I suppose it would help if I understood what it was all about. Forgive > me but I am not very bright about these things. However, let's assume > that something has changed but the software I am using doesn't know that > and, therefore, is still looking for the old /dev/dvd. Is it possible to > put into the appropriate place an instruction which will allow the > software to find the dvd drive? Hello, Norman. The 'old' /dev/dvd was a symbolic link created when you originally installed Ubuntu. The Ubuntu installer detects your hardware, and sets your /dev directory up accordingly. However, every time you boot Ubuntu it checks to see if anything has changed. If it has, "udev" remembers the old device in case you use it again, and creates a new symbolic link for any new devices it detects when you boot - In your case /dev/dvd1. The place where "udev" stores this 'persistent' information is: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules You can edit this file to make "udev" point /dev/dvd at your drive if you want. However, it might be a bit confusing if you've not done this sort of thing before. My advice is to have a look at the file anyway, and see if you can work out what happened to your /dev/dvd. If you post the contents of the file here, we might be able to help you work it out. Bye, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk mailto:a.tra...@abdn.ac.uk, http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythtv
> > > > On the face of it you must be correct. I have been reading to find a > > solution and opened a terminal and tried ls -l /dev/dvd. There was no > > response so I tried with /dev/dvd1 with the following result:- > > > > nor...@gruber:~$ ls -l /dev/dvd1 > > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-05-25 16:31 /dev/dvd1 -> scd0 > > nor...@gruber:~$ > > > > Is this any help to sorting things out. I use the terminal from time to > > time but I am never sure what things mean but I am learning. > > You might find an answer to your question in: > >/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules > > This keeps track of the CD/DVD drives that have been detected on your > system: If you upgrade your CD/DVD drive, or connect it differently, the > "udev" system will then create a symbolic link for the new drive when it > is detected and add it to the file. I suspect that your /dev/dvd1 was > created automatically by "udev" after one of your upgrades. I suppose it would help if I understood what it was all about. Forgive me but I am not very bright about these things. However, let's assume that something has changed but the software I am using doesn't know that and, therefore, is still looking for the old /dev/dvd. Is it possible to put into the appropriate place an instruction which will allow the software to find the dvd drive? Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] codecs for mp3 media etc.
Sean Miller wrote: > when I try to play most of my saved music it says "sorry mate, you > don't have those there plugins what we need to do this - do you want > me to install them?" so I say "yeah" but then it says "sorry, mate, > didn't work out." > > So what's the most reliable way from a "virgin install" of Ubuntu to > get the things these days? I put together the following information for those who may not care about restrictions, and just need some help with multimedia. It draws heavily on the medibuntu repositories, and is written with novices in mind: == Multimedia and Ubuntu How to get multimedia codecs the easy way! (amended version) Disclaimer: Patent and copyright laws operate differently depending on which country you are in. Please obtain legal advice if you are unsure whether a particular patent or restriction applies to a media format you wish to use in your country. For legal reasons Ubuntu (as first installed) lacks many of the codecs which are needed to play some of the many possible audio or video formats available. This is because of global, geographical, variations in legislation regarding intellectual property, security and other issues. Before following any of the procedures offered in here, please note that immediately after installation it is recommended to first download any security updates which are available to date. If you do not see a pop up offer for this then use System>Administration>UpdateManager and accept the updates (this is not the same as an upgrade to a later version of Ubuntu, which you should avoid doing unless you deliberately want that). 1) Multimedia – Linux native codecs To get pretty well all of the multimedia codecs the easy way, ensure the machine is connected to the internet and use the facility Add/Remove applications If the list is out of date, accept a refresh, and more recent information will be downloaded. Then use Applications>Add/Remove Ensure that 'All' is selected, and Click the choices to select 'All Available Applications' from the list. Then into the 'Search' space type gstreamer After a short time, the search results will display a number of gstreamer entries and in addition the item 'Ubuntu restricted extras'. For each of these in turn, including the 'Ubuntu restricted extras', click the check box so that a tick is shown. As you do this you will also be asked to confirm what you want and that you do not live in a country where such codecs are not allowed (such as USA). Note that in some versions of Ubuntu, for example, 9.04, the [gstreamer fluendo MPEG2 demuxing plugin] is not required and will conflict with other installed software. If so, you will see an error warning message, so in this case, there is no need for this item. When your choices are all checked and accepted, click the 'Apply' button and they will be downloaded and installed. You will now have installed most of the multimedia codecs. 2) Further actions: Playing Encrypted DVDs The several actions above will be capable of installing most multimedia codecs. However, to play encrypted DVDs (some commercial DVDs), the libdvdcss2 package is also an essential requirement. libdvdcss2 is a simple library designed for accessing DVDs like a block device without having to use decryption. This can be installed easily after the medibuntu repository has been enabled for your machine, please see below. 3) Playing some non-native formats Some media formats do not have native Linux facilities. In such cases it is possible to make use of binary Windows and other codecs through a 'wrapper', bundled as the 'w32codecs', for playback of these media formats. This can be installed easily after the medibuntu repository has been enabled for your machine, please see below. There are various ways of installing these additional packages, although the exact details depend upon which type of computer you have and which version of Ubuntu you use (Note 1). 4) The medibuntu repository If your computer is configured to make use of the special software repository for Multimedia, Entertainment & Distractions In Ubuntu (medibuntu), then subsequent actions, including security updates, can be handled conveniently. Unfortunately for the beginner, the configuration to include a new software repository can seem a bit demanding at first. The following actions are closely based on information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu An overview of actions is: - Get the sources list and keyring - Then get specific information for your Ubuntu version - Then, add the GPG Key (to help ensure you only use the repository you are expecting). The detailed actions for these three stages are best followed by using the medibuntu link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu (please note the leading upper case in the word Medibuntu here) On that page please see: 'Adding the Repositories' This technique makes use of a Terminal, and copy and paste. If it
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythtv
norman wrote: what happens if you try to PLAY a DVD? >>> It plays, no problem. >> Surely then the device must exist? > > On the face of it you must be correct. I have been reading to find a > solution and opened a terminal and tried ls -l /dev/dvd. There was no > response so I tried with /dev/dvd1 with the following result:- > > nor...@gruber:~$ ls -l /dev/dvd1 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-05-25 16:31 /dev/dvd1 -> scd0 > nor...@gruber:~$ > > Is this any help to sorting things out. I use the terminal from time to > time but I am never sure what things mean but I am learning. Hello, Norman. You might find an answer to your question in: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules This keeps track of the CD/DVD drives that have been detected on your system: If you upgrade your CD/DVD drive, or connect it differently, the "udev" system will then create a symbolic link for the new drive when it is detected and add it to the file. I suspect that your /dev/dvd1 was created automatically by "udev" after one of your upgrades. Bye, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk mailto:a.tra...@abdn.ac.uk, http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythtv
From my limited knowledge as well, the lwrx business is the permissions for that drive. I think that that string means you have full permissions. Sorry if I'm wrong lol James On 27 May 2009, at 20:04, norman wrote: > what happens if you try to PLAY a DVD? >>> >>> It plays, no problem. >> >> Surely then the device must exist? > > On the face of it you must be correct. I have been reading to find a > solution and opened a terminal and tried ls -l /dev/dvd. There was no > response so I tried with /dev/dvd1 with the following result:- > > nor...@gruber:~$ ls -l /dev/dvd1 > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-05-25 16:31 /dev/dvd1 -> scd0 > nor...@gruber:~$ > > Is this any help to sorting things out. I use the terminal from time > to > time but I am never sure what things mean but I am learning. > > Norman > > > > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythtv
> >> what happens if you try to PLAY a DVD? > > > > It plays, no problem. > > Surely then the device must exist? On the face of it you must be correct. I have been reading to find a solution and opened a terminal and tried ls -l /dev/dvd. There was no response so I tried with /dev/dvd1 with the following result:- nor...@gruber:~$ ls -l /dev/dvd1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-05-25 16:31 /dev/dvd1 -> scd0 nor...@gruber:~$ Is this any help to sorting things out. I use the terminal from time to time but I am never sure what things mean but I am learning. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythtv
Sean Miller wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM, norman wrote: > >>> what happens if you try to PLAY a DVD? >>> >> It plays, no problem. >> > > Surely then the device must exist? > > Sean > Does normal DVD burning work (for instance in K3B or Brasero) work okay? I take it you're also running MythTV as the first user which you specified? (Although I gather looking at the permissions, if the user isn't in the cdrom group then it possibly wouldn't be able to read DVDs either). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] codecs for mp3 media etc.
Sean Miller wrote: > when I try to play most of my saved music it says "sorry mate, you > don't have those there plugins what we need to do this - do you want > me to install them?" so I say "yeah" but then it says "sorry, mate, > didn't work out." > > So what's the most reliable way from a "virgin install" of Ubuntu to > get the things these days? > > Sean > > I believe it's the ubuntu-restricted-extras package which you need to install. I generally install w32codecs from Medibuntu but I believe that in the standard Media Player it generally prompts me for extra packages (gstreamer0.10-plugins-*) when I do a fresh install and try playing MP3s. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] codecs for mp3 media etc.
when I try to play most of my saved music it says "sorry mate, you don't have those there plugins what we need to do this - do you want me to install them?" so I say "yeah" but then it says "sorry, mate, didn't work out." So what's the most reliable way from a "virgin install" of Ubuntu to get the things these days? Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythtv
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:32 PM, norman wrote: >> what happens if you try to PLAY a DVD? > > It plays, no problem. Surely then the device must exist? Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythtv
> could it be duff media? I don't think so. > > what happens if you try to PLAY a DVD? It plays, no problem. > Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] High street store handbagged by angry pensioner
Yes, you're right James... that's why I haven't criticised the staff in my post above. If we want them to be consultants then companies like John Lewis have to train them to be open minded, but I don't think the folks who form corporate strategy can see the difference between selling a dishwasher and a computer. I think I'd stay working in the dishwasher department... less grief... Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] High street store handbagged by angry pensioner
Haha - ain't it great when people don't quite know what they're talking about (like me sometimes!). At least when a customer asks me something, I'm stupid enough to say I don't know, then look it up on Google :S better safe than sorry though... A quick small story as well - a few weeks back someone came in and was describing the issue with their computer to me, and said that it was running Windows 2007 (which was actually XP and Office 07) and Linux. Well, I said, which one are you running? Because he didn't seem to know exactly what he was on about, and he said "I'm running Firefox on Windows - great, 'innit?" Head-banging may yet be about to come back into fashion as I tried to explain the difference... Hope that made some people laugh ;-) About the John Lewis thing: There seems to be quite a few stories recently about poor old JL - but quite rightly justified it seems. James >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >On 05/27/09 16:48, Sean Miller wrote: >> Yes, I'd be interested to hear the reply. >> >> I have very little time for salespeople at these places... they only >> know what they're taught, they're not expected by their employers to >> be experts simply to sell whatever is on offer on the shelves... I >> remember once going to PCWorld to try to buy a CD-Rom drive (shows how >> long ago it was) and being told there was a world shortage and no >> internal ones existed. >> >> Their failure to stock wasn't my issue, really - but the teenager >> "selling to me" knew no better. >> >> Sean >> >I remember once considering buying a Yoggie Gatekeeper (basically an >embedded computer running a firewall that connects via USB). On the box >it says that it supports Linux (well unless there's another OS with tux >as a logo...), yet the salesman said it didn't. The funny thing is that >the device actually *runs* Linux itself. > >- -- >Many thanks >Harry Rickards (GPG Key ID:646ED06A) > >- -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- >Version: 3.1 >GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ >w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? >- --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- >-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- >Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) >Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > >iEYEARECAAYFAkodYqkACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GqLpQCfTp1rWhCPNZuGYAmeOophm+1O >vAIAoPdzLzbYgi+fzyt+TIibvsY/KocC >=c+8F >-END PGP SIGNATURE- > >-- >ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] High street store handbagged by angry pensioner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/27/09 16:48, Sean Miller wrote: > Yes, I'd be interested to hear the reply. > > I have very little time for salespeople at these places... they only > know what they're taught, they're not expected by their employers to > be experts simply to sell whatever is on offer on the shelves... I > remember once going to PCWorld to try to buy a CD-Rom drive (shows how > long ago it was) and being told there was a world shortage and no > internal ones existed. > > Their failure to stock wasn't my issue, really - but the teenager > "selling to me" knew no better. > > Sean > I remember once considering buying a Yoggie Gatekeeper (basically an embedded computer running a firewall that connects via USB). On the box it says that it supports Linux (well unless there's another OS with tux as a logo...), yet the salesman said it didn't. The funny thing is that the device actually *runs* Linux itself. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (GPG Key ID:646ED06A) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkodYqkACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GqLpQCfTp1rWhCPNZuGYAmeOophm+1O vAIAoPdzLzbYgi+fzyt+TIibvsY/KocC =c+8F -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] High street store handbagged by angry pensioner
Yes, I'd be interested to hear the reply. I have very little time for salespeople at these places... they only know what they're taught, they're not expected by their employers to be experts simply to sell whatever is on offer on the shelves... I remember once going to PCWorld to try to buy a CD-Rom drive (shows how long ago it was) and being told there was a world shortage and no internal ones existed. Their failure to stock wasn't my issue, really - but the teenager "selling to me" knew no better. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythtv
could it be duff media? what happens if you try to PLAY a DVD? Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] High street store handbagged by angry pensioner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/27/09 14:49, alan c wrote: > Below is an copy (with permission and with identity removed) of a > letter of complaint from a pensioner friend to the department store > where she had attempted to buy a webcam. For Ubuntu. The high handed > way the staff member acted has prompted a formal response from my > friend, who, (until now) has been a long time supporter of what she > had found to be good customer service at the store. Shame about the > falling profits, isn't it? > > The webcam was a Logitech QuickCam S7500 5mp. > Very interesting. If she does get a reply, let us know. - -- Many thanks Harry Rickards (GPG Key ID:646ED06A) - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GAT/GCM/GCS/GCC/GIT/GM d? s: a? C UL P- L+++ E--- W+++ N o K+ w--- O- M- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t 5 X R tv-- b+++ DI D G e* h! !r y? - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkodXpkACgkQ1kZz3mRu0GomCQCdF8g+mzTqK2+dEM3Qkh8gkLDG 1z8AoK44NIuZoyKLaIiDV7LxWGq5K4LQ =+n2t -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu
James Milligan wrote: > Oh and just anoter quick poll, presumably we should use an LTS > release? I remember a discussion a while ago regarding something like > this and you all saying LTS. > > James > No reason why you couldn't offer both. I dare say most customers would be fine with 9.04 or the latest version but some customer may well need 8.04 LTS (although I'd assume this would be more on the server than the desktop). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu
Alan Bell wrote: > At this point in the cycle the 8.04 LTS has only a little more > support time than the non LTS 9.04 so I would go Jaunty and be nice > and new. Particularly for a desktop to get the notifications and > UbuntuOne working Hello, Alan. I'm supporting a lot of Ubuntu systems running 8.04 LTS, but I'm not planning to upgrade until the next LTS release. In James' situation, I'd stick to LTS-only releases, otherwise the systems he builds will be more difficult to maintain. I use 8.04 LTS on servers, and desktops/laptops. Before you all flame me, I'm not criticising using the latest Ubuntu releases on your own PC. I'm pointing out that if you have a lot of systems to support, an LTS-only policy is easier to manage. It would then be up to James' customers to decide if they want to upgrade to a more recent non-LTS Ubuntu release such as 9.04. BYW, James, have you considered using "remastersys" to create 'product' recovery CD's for the systems you sell? http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/ubuntu.html This works very well - I used "reconstructor" to remaster the official Ubuntu live/install CD before, but "remastersys" can be used to create a live/install CD or a live/backup CD from a system already installed onto your hard disk. You could offer the live/backup as a product recovery CD to restore the system to the same state it was in when it left the shop. Bye, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk mailto:a.tra...@abdn.ac.uk, http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu
Ok thank for that. Also just to answer Alan's email which has just come through, thanks as well. James On 27 May 2009, at 16:00, Philip Stubbs wrote: > 2009/5/27 James Milligan : >> Ah thanks for that. >> >> Just seeing the quote you used from my last email - wanted to clarify >> it a bit. The reason i'm wanting a live cd is so that I can put the >> codec stuff on or flash and the other media things, not drivers etc. >> >> As a quick sort of poll, is Ubuntu Desktop the best for this type of >> thing, rather than any of the others? I.e. Kubuntu, Xubuntu etc. > > Stick with Ubuntu if the machine can handle it. If it is a bit low > powered, then use Xubuntu. You don't want too many > options/configurations, as it will become a nightmare to manage. > > Before all the KDE fans get flame throwers out, I only suggest using > Ubuntu as it is the standard version, not because of any bias for > Gnome on my part. > > -- > Philip Stubbs > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu
At this point in the cycle the 8.04 LTS has only a little more support time than the non LTS 9.04 so I would go Jaunty and be nice and new. Particularly for a desktop to get the notifications and UbuntuOne working Alan --Original Message-- From: James Milligan Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com To: British Ubuntu Talk ReplyTo: British Ubuntu Talk Sent: 27 May 2009 16:01 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu Oh and just anoter quick poll, presumably we should use an LTS release? I remember a discussion a while ago regarding something like this and you all saying LTS. James On 27 May 2009, at 13:59, Cornelius Mostert wrote: >> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:44:31 +0100 >> From: James Milligan >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu >> To: British Ubuntu Talk >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; >> format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> Wow I must say that's a comprehensive plan of action there. I'm going >> to print off that email itself and bring it in this Saturday. >> >> I was thinking myself of the dualboot option, but I settled on the >> idea of WINE being OK for most needs. >> >> Would it be possible to customize a Linux install disk to already >> have >> these packages installed automatically? Similar to n/vlite on >> Windows. > > I found it :-) > > From an article someone posted a while back... > http://tuxradar.com/content/100-open-source-gems-part-2 > > and > > http://tuxradar.com/content/100-open-source-gems-part-1 > > Look at number 89: Ubuntu Customisation Kit. > So this should help you setup an Ubuntu distro to your liking... ready > for distribution alongside your installed system!! > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Alan Bell The Open Learning Centre Check out our Libertus servers at http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com/libertus.html -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu
Oh and just anoter quick poll, presumably we should use an LTS release? I remember a discussion a while ago regarding something like this and you all saying LTS. James On 27 May 2009, at 13:59, Cornelius Mostert wrote: >> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:44:31 +0100 >> From: James Milligan >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu >> To: British Ubuntu Talk >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; >> format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> Wow I must say that's a comprehensive plan of action there. I'm going >> to print off that email itself and bring it in this Saturday. >> >> I was thinking myself of the dualboot option, but I settled on the >> idea of WINE being OK for most needs. >> >> Would it be possible to customize a Linux install disk to already >> have >> these packages installed automatically? Similar to n/vlite on >> Windows. > > I found it :-) > > From an article someone posted a while back... > http://tuxradar.com/content/100-open-source-gems-part-2 > > and > > http://tuxradar.com/content/100-open-source-gems-part-1 > > Look at number 89: Ubuntu Customisation Kit. > So this should help you setup an Ubuntu distro to your liking... ready > for distribution alongside your installed system!! > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu
2009/5/27 James Milligan : > Ah thanks for that. > > Just seeing the quote you used from my last email - wanted to clarify > it a bit. The reason i'm wanting a live cd is so that I can put the > codec stuff on or flash and the other media things, not drivers etc. > > As a quick sort of poll, is Ubuntu Desktop the best for this type of > thing, rather than any of the others? I.e. Kubuntu, Xubuntu etc. Stick with Ubuntu if the machine can handle it. If it is a bit low powered, then use Xubuntu. You don't want too many options/configurations, as it will become a nightmare to manage. Before all the KDE fans get flame throwers out, I only suggest using Ubuntu as it is the standard version, not because of any bias for Gnome on my part. -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu
Thanks for that :-) I actually had that site open on my iPhone ready to look at once I had a bit of time. I haven't actually got ubuntu installed anywhere at the moment because in the summer I'm building a new computer from scratch which is going to have Ubuntu on a dualboot with xp then windows 7 when it comes out. Until then I'll try and make do with a vm install, or even convince the boss to let me make a workshop machine with just ubuntu on. Thanks for the help James On 27 May 2009, at 13:59, Cornelius Mostert wrote: >> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:44:31 +0100 >> From: James Milligan >> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu >> To: British Ubuntu Talk >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; >> format=flowed; delsp=yes >> >> Wow I must say that's a comprehensive plan of action there. I'm going >> to print off that email itself and bring it in this Saturday. >> >> I was thinking myself of the dualboot option, but I settled on the >> idea of WINE being OK for most needs. >> >> Would it be possible to customize a Linux install disk to already >> have >> these packages installed automatically? Similar to n/vlite on >> Windows. > > I found it :-) > > From an article someone posted a while back... > http://tuxradar.com/content/100-open-source-gems-part-2 > > and > > http://tuxradar.com/content/100-open-source-gems-part-1 > > Look at number 89: Ubuntu Customisation Kit. > So this should help you setup an Ubuntu distro to your liking... ready > for distribution alongside your installed system!! > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] High street store handbagged by angry pensioner
Below is an copy (with permission and with identity removed) of a letter of complaint from a pensioner friend to the department store where she had attempted to buy a webcam. For Ubuntu. The high handed way the staff member acted has prompted a formal response from my friend, who, (until now) has been a long time supporter of what she had found to be good customer service at the store. Shame about the falling profits, isn't it? The webcam was a Logitech QuickCam S7500 5mp. John Lewis Partnership Broad Street Reading RGI 2BB Dear Sir/Madam This is primarily customer feedback. I came into the Store last Monday 18th May, visiting the Computer Section to purchase a Webcam. I was at pains to point out that I used Linux Open Source Ubuntu, not Windows and trusted that in the unlikely event that it didn't work on my laptop, I would be able to return it – obviously replaced in undamaged packing. The Sales person told me quite bluntly, it wouldn't work. But having a friend who has a Logitech webcam that does work on Linux software, I stated, that on the box, Logitech only mentions Windows, which is quite different from them saying it wouldn't work on any other application. The Sales person continued to be adamant, even didactic about this, adding that if I went ahead with the purchase and returned it, I would be charged 10%.This may well be your general policy now but as I'm retired and on a fixed income, I'm not wishing to pay £5 unnecessarily. I therefore, made my purchase at Argos where their returns policy is more customer friendly. With JL's recent announcement that profits had fallen, I presume a loss of sale might matter to the Partnership? Before leaving the Computer Section I requested to speak to the manager, but he didn't, if asked, come to speak with me. The Sales person returned just reiterating his pitch. In writing this, I realise I am angry as well as dismayed at the encounter. I have always expected more of JL. Therefore I hope, in reaching the Section concerned, this feedback may result in a more enlightened and helpful attitude to Ubuntu Linux users.Or, is it possible that a female shopper in a Computer Section just isn't perceived as sufficiently tech-savvy ? The irony of this is that the Logitech webcam did work on Ubuntu. Immediately, with no need for any driver CD nor any download. The Laptop has a microphone socket and since the USB Webcam model has an insitu microphone all I had to do was set Skype to use USB audio. For your information I use Ubuntu version 8.04 which is the current 'Long Term Support' version. I therefore hope this information will be of use to the staff in future sales, as I would have so much appreciated a comment like: “We can't guarantee that the webcam will work on Ubuntu as Logitech only specify Windows” That I would have understood. I would be most interested to hear your comments. With thanks, Mrs P. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythtv
> > I have just tried to make a DVD recording for the first time in about a > > year and have hit a snag and I wonder if someone could give me a hint or > > two, please. The recording process gives up near the end with an error > > message saying it cannot find /dev/dvd and, on checking, there is no > > such directory. Further checking shows that when I first set up mythtv I > > set 'Location of DVD device' to /dev/dvd and had no problems. > > > > Since initially setting up mythtv I have upgraded several times and am > > running 8.10 on this PC at the moment. > > > Try setting it to /dev/sr0 or /dev/scd0 and see if that works. Sounds > to me that you don't have a symbolic link from /dev/dvd to /dev/sr0 (or > whatever the device name for your DVD writer is). I tried both of these in the set up but the same error appeared relating to /dev/dvd. I would have expected the error to say couldn't find /dev/sr0 or /dev/scd0. Perhaps I need to set up a symbolic link but I have no idea how. Norman > > Rob > > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu
> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 11:44:31 +0100 > From: James Milligan > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu > To: British Ubuntu Talk > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; > delsp=yes > > Wow I must say that's a comprehensive plan of action there. I'm going > to print off that email itself and bring it in this Saturday. > > I was thinking myself of the dualboot option, but I settled on the > idea of WINE being OK for most needs. > > Would it be possible to customize a Linux install disk to already have > these packages installed automatically? Similar to n/vlite on Windows. I found it :-) >From an article someone posted a while back... http://tuxradar.com/content/100-open-source-gems-part-2 and http://tuxradar.com/content/100-open-source-gems-part-1 Look at number 89: Ubuntu Customisation Kit. So this should help you setup an Ubuntu distro to your liking... ready for distribution alongside your installed system!! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu
Ah thanks for that. Just seeing the quote you used from my last email - wanted to clarify it a bit. The reason i'm wanting a live cd is so that I can put the codec stuff on or flash and the other media things, not drivers etc. As a quick sort of poll, is Ubuntu Desktop the best for this type of thing, rather than any of the others? I.e. Kubuntu, Xubuntu etc. Thanks James On 27 May 2009, at 13:13, Dean Sas wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:59, James Milligan > wrote: >> Is it still possible to use a customized disk though? Because the >> desktops aren't always the same inside, and we change the hardware >> every so often. > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization > > Unless you have to install some restricted drivers or do some special > configuration then Ubuntu should just detect the new hardware and run > with it. > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Re-use of DVD-RW's
ive never been able to use my cheap £shop rw dvd's. I think someone here suggested just keep searching for a brand of DVDrw that works! 2009/5/27 Tony Travis > Hello, Ubuntistas. > > I've been struggling for a while trying to work out what is wrong with > the DVD writer on my Asus A6K laptop under Ubuntu 8.04 LTS: Seems that > the answer is there is nothing wrong with the hardware, but the Gnome > DVD burning libraries can only write to virgin DVD media, or DVD media > that has been 'fully' erased: > > sudo dvd+rw-format -blank=full /dev/dvd > > Not only does this take a long time, but it also uses up the DVD writer > laser unnecessarily if you are going to write to the DVD-RW anyway. My > work-around was prompted by the diagnostics produced by: > > growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso > > Apparently, if you repeat the "-dvd-compat" it forces DAO (Disk At Once) > mode, which does not require the DVD-RW to be erased: > > growisofs -dvd-compat -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso > > Fortunately, I discovered this in time to retrieve all my 'unuseable' > DVD-RW's from the bin. How does everyone else re-use their DVD-RW's? > > BTW, I already know about "k3b" ;-) > > Bye, > > Tony. > -- > Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition > and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK > tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk > mailto:a.tra...@abdn.ac.uk, http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Re-use of DVD-RW's
Hello, Ubuntistas. I've been struggling for a while trying to work out what is wrong with the DVD writer on my Asus A6K laptop under Ubuntu 8.04 LTS: Seems that the answer is there is nothing wrong with the hardware, but the Gnome DVD burning libraries can only write to virgin DVD media, or DVD media that has been 'fully' erased: sudo dvd+rw-format -blank=full /dev/dvd Not only does this take a long time, but it also uses up the DVD writer laser unnecessarily if you are going to write to the DVD-RW anyway. My work-around was prompted by the diagnostics produced by: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso Apparently, if you repeat the "-dvd-compat" it forces DAO (Disk At Once) mode, which does not require the DVD-RW to be erased: growisofs -dvd-compat -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso Fortunately, I discovered this in time to retrieve all my 'unuseable' DVD-RW's from the bin. How does everyone else re-use their DVD-RW's? BTW, I already know about "k3b" ;-) Bye, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk mailto:a.tra...@abdn.ac.uk, http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:59, James Milligan wrote: > Is it still possible to use a customized disk though? Because the > desktops aren't always the same inside, and we change the hardware > every so often. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization Unless you have to install some restricted drivers or do some special configuration then Ubuntu should just detect the new hardware and run with it. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythtv
norman wrote: > I have just tried to make a DVD recording for the first time in about a > year and have hit a snag and I wonder if someone could give me a hint or > two, please. The recording process gives up near the end with an error > message saying it cannot find /dev/dvd and, on checking, there is no > such directory. Further checking shows that when I first set up mythtv I > set 'Location of DVD device' to /dev/dvd and had no problems. > > Since initially setting up mythtv I have upgraded several times and am > running 8.10 on this PC at the moment. > > Norman > > Try setting it to /dev/sr0 or /dev/scd0 and see if that works. Sounds to me that you don't have a symbolic link from /dev/dvd to /dev/sr0 (or whatever the device name for your DVD writer is). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu
That's actually a cracking idea. We did sometimes used to use cloning devices but they were a bit touch and go. Is it still possible to use a customized disk though? Because the desktops aren't always the same inside, and we change the hardware every so often. Thanks once again. James On 27 May 2009, at 11:51, Sean Miller wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:44 AM, James Milligan > wrote: >> Would it be possible to customize a Linux install disk to already >> have >> these packages installed automatically? Similar to n/vlite on >> Windows. > > If it was standard hardware surely you could simply do one install, > then copy an image of the drive and clone it? > > Restoring or installing for the first time a drive image doesn't take > long, and has the advantage you could give the customers a copy of the > image as a "restore to factory settings" as they often do with Windows > - just a thought. > > Sean > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] mythtv
I have just tried to make a DVD recording for the first time in about a year and have hit a snag and I wonder if someone could give me a hint or two, please. The recording process gives up near the end with an error message saying it cannot find /dev/dvd and, on checking, there is no such directory. Further checking shows that when I first set up mythtv I set 'Location of DVD device' to /dev/dvd and had no problems. Since initially setting up mythtv I have upgraded several times and am running 8.10 on this PC at the moment. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:44 AM, James Milligan wrote: > Would it be possible to customize a Linux install disk to already have > these packages installed automatically? Similar to n/vlite on Windows. If it was standard hardware surely you could simply do one install, then copy an image of the drive and clone it? Restoring or installing for the first time a drive image doesn't take long, and has the advantage you could give the customers a copy of the image as a "restore to factory settings" as they often do with Windows - just a thought. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Business with Ubuntu
Wow I must say that's a comprehensive plan of action there. I'm going to print off that email itself and bring it in this Saturday. I was thinking myself of the dualboot option, but I settled on the idea of WINE being OK for most needs. Would it be possible to customize a Linux install disk to already have these packages installed automatically? Similar to n/vlite on Windows. We don't have an online shop as such - the conclusion I've come to is that it would cost too much to transport the computers to other parts of the country. It's a good idea though. I'll let y'all know how it goes anyway. James On 26 May 2009, at 21:23, alan c wrote: > James Milligan wrote: >> Let me just say that I couldn't think of a better title for this, so >> please improve it if you can! >> >> The shop I work in sells desktop computers that are built to order >> each time, meaning the OS too. We also sell laptops by ASUS but >> that's > [...] > > Have you considered selling dual boot computers? I know it is > currently unconventional, and would give most readers here indigestion > at the thought, but from my experience most 'customers' are already > hooked on Windows and invariably want Windows still in place on their > computers, but they ALSO want Ubuntu to give them an elegant 'escape' > route. If nothing prevents then using Ubuntu such as an incompatible > printer, then experience suggests they will use Ubuntu more and more > with time. > > In a high street retail environment, the offer of 'Added Value' of > dual boot would lead to a higher purchase price. If the price is too > low this will seem illogical to a Windows 'Retail' customer. My guess > would be an extra 50 pounds for Ubuntu dual boot, with Ubuntu > configured with as many media codecs and flash, as possible. If the > hardware is compatible that should take less than one hour, maybe half > hour. > > You will then be continuing Windows support for a time, and also be in > a position to support learning of Ubuntu use. You will become known > locally as the escape route from Windows. I believe that the type of > person who will buy a pre installed Ubuntu PC in a high street store > will be happy to pay extra and be even happier that it is dual boot. > > You will get a fair amount of in person visits to ask this or that > question - they will come to the shop and see something and buy it, > when talking to you. More business. > > My estimate is that it will take the customers approximately two years > before they want to discard Windows altogether. > > Meanwhile you can still offer Ubuntu only PCs to those that want them > preinstalled (for the same price or a little more than Windows PCs??). > > You will also get a market, (perhaps online sales?), for naked PCs > which you know are compatible with Ubuntu. Personally, I do not have > much need for a pre installed PC, however I do have a regular (sort > of) need to buy hardware that I will install into, and it is always a > bit of a gamble about the hardware. > -- > alan cocks > Ubuntu user #10391 > Linux user #360648 > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] KDE Konqueror problem
On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Kevin Frost wrote: > On Tuesday 26 May 2009, Matthew Daubney wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 18:01 +0200, Michael Holloway wrote: > > > Most online banking sites don't allow "unknown" browsers for security > > > reasons. I have just tried Natwest in Konqueror and it says "you > > > browser is not supported". > > > > If this is the case, Konquerer allows you to change your user agent > > string (what browser it tells the site you're using). > > > > Simply go Settings -> Configure Konquerer -> Browser Identification > > > > Then add a different one for that specific site. Just tried it with the > > natwest one and it works :) > > > > Hope that helps! > > > > -Matt Daubney > > Hi all > > Unfortunately, it doesn't work with Abbey. > I am going to grab a distribution that uses KDE 3.5 and see if konqueror > still has a problem with it. > Just loaded up Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 3.5.9 and konqueror works okay. It must be something that has changed in 4.x then. Don't suppose it will be a big enough problem to bother the devs about though, being so localised :-( Kevin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
