Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread TT Mooney
Hey all --

Long time listener, first time caller.

With my obcession for small Linux devices (man the N800 was COOL, but
not terribly useful) I couldn't resist the Joggler. Went down to Oxford
Street -- apparently they sold out in store on 2 April, and may have
more in on Thursday. Online seems the best option for stock availability.

I assume they have a backlog, or are about to release an updated
version, but who can complain at £49? I think it will make a fine
kitchen computer, and a friend is going to try it as a GCompris tablet
for his daughter.

travis
 Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 14:22:14 +0100
 From: Alan Pope a...@popey.com
 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..
 To: UK Ubuntu Talk ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
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 On 6 April 2010 14:16, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:
   
 Just got mine now, last one too, after checking 5 shops in 4 differant towns 
 -.-

 

 Fantastic news :)

 I ordered mine last night just _before_ sending the mail ;)

   
 I'l be having a good look when i get home tonight, quite excited lol
 :) happy hacking everyone! ^.^

 

 Be good to keep notes somewhere, how about here:-

 http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler

 Cheers,
 Al.

   

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPhone software....

2010-04-07 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 07/04/10 01:28, John Matthews wrote:
 I just got myself an iPhone today, and was wondering, is there software
 fort it on Ubuntu? If so can somebody point me in the right direction?
 Hopefully for a novice to install.

Hi John,

I doubt that you will very find much available for the iPhone that works 
on Ubuntu.

The more I see of Apple and their products the more I dislike them. They 
make Microsoft look quite friendly in terms of lock-in and closing-off 
opportunities to develop and explore.

It is a constant battle of reverse engineering just to get music players 
to talk to each successive generation of iPod and their app store has 
very stringent terms. The iPhone is effective controlled and owned by 
Apple, not you. They can remove apps, lock-it down (and probably worse) 
without your consent.

It might look nice and work well but I value freedom.

I'm sure Google will throw up some stuff if you look for it but Apple 
are really *not* very friendly to the FOSS world.

We are looking at getting some new smartphones for our company - they 
will be Android based. The iPhone is banned.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 07/04/10 07:24, TT Mooney wrote:
 Hey all --

 Long time listener, first time caller.

 With my obcession for small Linux devices (man the N800 was COOL, but
 not terribly useful) I couldn't resist the Joggler. Went down to Oxford
 Street -- apparently they sold out in store on 2 April, and may have
 more in on Thursday. Online seems the best option for stock availability.

 I assume they have a backlog, or are about to release an updated
 version, but who can complain at £49? I think it will make a fine
 kitchen computer, and a friend is going to try it as a GCompris tablet
 for his daughter.

I ordered one yesterday on-line and I had a dispatch email yesterday 
evening saying it will be with me today. Not bad at all at just £49.99 
inc VAT and Shipping.

Cheers

Al

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.comwrote:


 I ordered one yesterday on-line and I had a dispatch email yesterday
 evening saying it will be with me today. Not bad at all at just £49.99
 inc VAT and Shipping.

 Cheers

 Al

 I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
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[ubuntu-uk] Video Card

2010-04-07 Thread Jon Farmer
Hi

I have been asked by a charity I work with to recommend some new PC to
replace some of their older machines. They are keen to give Ubuntu a try
after hearing me evangelize about it.

I am looking for the install process to go as smooth as possible and the
one area I am unsure of is the video display card. So can anyone
recommend a card that will work out of the box. I am looking for 3D
acceleration.

Any thoughts gratefully accepted.

Regards

Jon




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPhone software....

2010-04-07 Thread Alan Pope
On 7 April 2010 01:28, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote:
 I just got myself an iPhone today, and was wondering, is there software
 fort it on Ubuntu? If so can somebody point me in the right direction?
 Hopefully for a novice to install.


The nice little bot in our irc channel says:-

08:53:08  popey !iphone
08:53:09  ubot4 For information on how to sync and add tracks to
your iPod, see the guide at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the
iPod Touch, see
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See
!RockBox for information on liberating your iPod

As I understand it on Ubuntu 10.04 you will be able to sync music to
your iPhone using the default music player Rhythmbox.

However there's other features of iTunes on Windows/OSX for which
there is no replacement on Ubuntu at the moment.

Cheers.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Card

2010-04-07 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 07/04/10 08:38, Jon Farmer wrote:
 Hi

 I have been asked by a charity I work with to recommend some new PC to
 replace some of their older machines. They are keen to give Ubuntu a try
 after hearing me evangelize about it.

 I am looking for the install process to go as smooth as possible and the
 one area I am unsure of is the video display card. So can anyone
 recommend a card that will work out of the box. I am looking for 3D
 acceleration.

If it just for the Compiz effects and user interface then almost any 
modern chipset should work just fine and out-of-the-box. There are 
(were) some issues with one of the intel chipsets (gma950?) but I am not 
sure if that has been fixed.

My personal experience has been with Nvidia mainly. And although the 
driver is binary and closed source, they do, at least, seem to update it 
regularly and it generally *just works*.

ATI have been making big moves toward supporting linux and also open 
sourcing much of the driver code. They just recently announced a new 
driver that will support the brand new OpenGL 4.0 specification 
simultaneously across Windows and Linux.

The long and short is that for most modern systems with a built-in GPU 
you should be just fine. It might be worth just posting a link to a 
machine you like of just so anyone can comment and in case there is a 
gotcha.

You might want to recommend some of the newer ION based systems using 
the Intel Atom Dual Core processor and Nvidia embedded GPU. These are 
just fine for normal desktop use and use much less power than 
traditional PC h/w so will save the charity a shedload in running costs 
over the years.

HTH

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-07 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
On 6 April 2010 23:18, doug livesey biot...@gmail.com wrote:
 And if you're as appalled as other people, this may come in
 handy: http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/extremeinternetl
 You never know -- democracy might actually work.
 I know, I know ...

Ok I've emailed my MP.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Card

2010-04-07 Thread Jon Farmer
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:59 +0100, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

 ATI have been making big moves toward supporting linux and also open 
 sourcing much of the driver code. They just recently announced a new 
 driver that will support the brand new OpenGL 4.0 specification 
 simultaneously across Windows and Linux.


That's interesting because recently I asked some opinions on #ubuntu-uk
about this 

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189241

and someone warned me the ATI graphics card was not supported.


Regards

Jon


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Card

2010-04-07 Thread John Stevenson
Hello Jon,
Why not just buy a PC with linux preinstalled?  Or better still, keep the
existing hardware and run Ubnutu on it as it should work more efficiently
than what they already have, possibly using xbuntu if the hardware is really
old.

You can of course run Ubuntu live from CD, but its a better experience
(performance wise) if you create a usb drive with Ubuntu Live on it. (I use
unetbootln http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ to create the usb sticks, or
you could just use the live cd to install Ubuntu onto the usb stick).

*Examples of pre-installed PC's*:
http://www.thelinuxshop.co.uk/catalog/index.php?cPath=30
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/desktops/0,39029426,49296161,00.htm
http://www1.euro.dell.com/uk/en/home/Laptops/laptop-inspiron-10/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-inspiron-10s=dhscs=ukdhs1~oid=uk~en~20211~laptop-inspiron-10_n00b1001~~

Otherwise, the Eee PC's all seem to run Ubuntu just fine as do many of the
netbooks.  If the charity is just using Office and Internet applications,
then you dont need anything vastly powerful, so a netbook could be more that
adequate.  I do development on my Eee PC netbook and have no performance
problems.

If you do want to build your own kit, then anything you buy graphics card
wise with an NVidia, ATI or even Intel should work fine these days.  Be wary
of buying a card that is just out though, dont go for the top end (after all
its a charity) and you should be fine.  If you find hardware you want to
buy, a quick google and check in the Ubuntu forums will tell you if people
have issues with it

Thank you
John

On 7 April 2010 08:38, Jon Farmer viperdud...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi

 I have been asked by a charity I work with to recommend some new PC to
 replace some of their older machines. They are keen to give Ubuntu a try
 after hearing me evangelize about it.

 I am looking for the install process to go as smooth as possible and the
 one area I am unsure of is the video display card. So can anyone
 recommend a card that will work out of the box. I am looking for 3D
 acceleration.

 Any thoughts gratefully accepted.

 Regards

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Card

2010-04-07 Thread Gordon Allott
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:59 +0100, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
 If it just for the Compiz effects and user interface then almost any 
 modern chipset should work just fine and out-of-the-box. There are 
 (were) some issues with one of the intel chipsets (gma950?) but I am not 
 sure if that has been fixed.

yeah gma950 (pulsebo), stay far away from those. but the rest of the
intel line work great. Although the intel gpu's are rather weak in terms
of performance. They'll handle compiz fine but not really good for say
games or whatever. Intel gpus tend to have the best support for out of
the box linux features like the display manager.

So yeah if you want performance go for Nvidia (or ATI, don't have much
experience with ati so can't comment), if you want ease of use and to
not have to deal with closed source drivers, go for intel if you can get
a mobo with intel graphics onboard

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Bruno Girin
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
 
 
 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 7:46 AM, Alan Lord (News)
 alansli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 I ordered one yesterday on-line and I had a dispatch email
 yesterday
 evening saying it will be with me today. Not bad at all at
 just £49.99
 inc VAT and Shipping.
 
 Cheers
 
 Al
 
 I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
 fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)

I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
got an email that said:

 Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be 
 despatched to you within the next 5 days.

Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
the checkout process.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-07 Thread Ashley Whetter

  On 6 April 2010 23:18, doug livesey biot...@gmail.com wrote:
  And if you're as appalled as other people, this may come in
  handy: http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/extremeinternetl
  You never know -- democracy might actually work.
  I know, I know ...
 
 Ok I've emailed my MP.


I've also emailed my MP. A good site for messaging your MP was on the Ubuntu
uk podcast: www.writetothem.com. The third hearing of the bill should be on
BBC Parliament today but I'm not sure what time it is on.

Ashley
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 You never know -- democracy might actually work.
 I know, I know ...

Ok I've emailed my MP.
 
I've also emailed my MP. A good site for messaging your MP was on the 
Ubuntu uk podcast: www.writetothem.com. The third hearing of the bill 
should be on BBC Parliament today but I'm not sure what time it is on.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gadget Show Live Meet-Up

2010-04-07 Thread Ashley Whetter
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There is a Doodle poll set up, ( http://doodle.com/fsm46vwinihs5zdf ),

but I shall enquire as to whether this could be posted to the

ubuntu-uk

wiki, as most people would be able to see it there...


 It's a shame that i wont see you there... Lets hope more ubuntu-uk

people decide to join!


 Thanks


 Joe


As the Gadget Show Live starts tomorrow I thought I would remind
everyone about this poll for people who are going to see if any meet ups
can be arranged.

Ashley
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-07 Thread Harry Rickards
On 7 April 2010 10:37, Ashley Whetter ashley.whet...@googlemail.com wrote:
  On 6 April 2010 23:18, doug livesey biot...@gmail.com wrote:
  And if you're as appalled as other people, this may come in
  handy: http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/extremeinternetl
  You never know -- democracy might actually work.
  I know, I know ...
 
 Ok I've emailed my MP.


 I've also emailed my MP. A good site for messaging your MP was on the Ubuntu
 uk podcast: www.writetothem.com. The third hearing of the bill should be on
 BBC Parliament today but I'm not sure what time it is on.

Looking at http://services.parliament.uk/calendar/, it seems to be
quite far down the list of things after noon today.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gadget Show Live Meet-Up

2010-04-07 Thread Harry Rickards
On 7 April 2010 10:46, Ashley Whetter ashley.whet...@googlemail.com wrote:
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 There is a Doodle poll set up, ( http://doodle.com/fsm46vwinihs5zdf ),

 but I shall enquire as to whether this could be posted to the

 ubuntu-uk

 wiki, as most people would be able to see it there...

 It's a shame that i wont see you there... Lets hope more ubuntu-uk

 people decide to join!

 Thanks

 Joe

 As the Gadget Show Live starts tomorrow I thought I would remind
 everyone about this poll for people who are going to see if any meet ups
 can be arranged.

Also, if any one going tomorrow spots any Linux stalls it would be
great if you could tell everyone who's going on the 9th or 10th.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Gadget Show Live Meet-Up

2010-04-07 Thread javadayaz
Slightly off topicbut i wish i won those awesome competitions they have
every week!!! :)

On 7 April 2010 10:46, Ashley Whetter ashley.whet...@googlemail.com wrote:

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 There is a Doodle poll set up, ( http://doodle.com/fsm46vwinihs5zdf ),

 but I shall enquire as to whether this could be posted to the

 ubuntu-uk

 wiki, as most people would be able to see it there...


 It's a shame that i wont see you there... Lets hope more ubuntu-uk

 people decide to join!


 Thanks


 Joe


 As the Gadget Show Live starts tomorrow I thought I would remind
 everyone about this poll for people who are going to see if any meet ups
 can be arranged.

 Ashley
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-07 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Ashley Whetter 
ashley.whet...@googlemail.com wrote:

  I've also emailed my MP. A good site for messaging your MP was on the
 Ubuntu uk podcast: www.writetothem.com. The third hearing of the bill
 should be on BBC Parliament today but I'm not sure what time it is on.

 I seem to recall it was one of the Alans who set up VoteGeek where you can
post responses from candidates: http://votegeek.org.uk/ :) Worth a look.

Also worth reading RMS's comments in the Guardian
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/apr/06/digital-economy-bill-richard-stallman

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Card

2010-04-07 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 07/04/10 09:58, Jon Farmer wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:59 +0100, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

 ATI have been making big moves toward supporting linux and also open
 sourcing much of the driver code. They just recently announced a new
 driver that will support the brand new OpenGL 4.0 specification
 simultaneously across Windows and Linux.


 That's interesting because recently I asked some opinions on #ubuntu-uk
 about this

 http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189241

 and someone warned me the ATI graphics card was not supported.

Just FYI, here's the link.

http://www.amd.com/us/press-releases/Pages/first-with-openglr-2010apr05.aspx

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Mark Fraser
On Tuesday 06 Apr 2010 00:03:20 Alan Pope wrote:
 No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.
 
 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
 inch touch screen device with:-
 
 1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
 1GB storage
 512MB RAM
 Wired ethernet
 Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
 Audio + headphone jack
 USB port

Just done the telnet hack and for your information uname -a returns:
Linux atom 2.6.24-19-lpia #1 SMP Fri Mar 19 18:15:43 EDT 2010 i686 unknown

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] More bug triagers wanted to talk about your experiences

2010-04-07 Thread Rob Beard
On 07/04/2010 14:37, Matthew Revell wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm looking I want to learn more about how and why people triage bugs,
 whether that’s in Launchpad or another bug tracker.


Sorry I'm possibly being a bit thick here, when you say triage bugs, do 
you mean just reporting them or does it mean testing and fixing the bugs?

Ta,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Jamie Bennett

On 7 Apr 2010, at 14:49, Mark Fraser wrote:

 On Tuesday 06 Apr 2010 00:03:20 Alan Pope wrote:
 No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.
 
 50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
 inch touch screen device with:-
 
 1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
 1GB storage
 512MB RAM
 Wired ethernet
 Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
 Audio + headphone jack
 USB port
 
 Just done the telnet hack and for your information uname -a returns:
 Linux atom 2.6.24-19-lpia #1 SMP Fri Mar 19 18:15:43 EDT 2010 i686 unknown

Couldn't get the telnet hack to work, maybe its something to do with my usb 
adapter and 16GB SDHC card?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] More bug triagers wanted to talk about your experiences

2010-04-07 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
On 7 April 2010 15:00, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:
 On 07/04/2010 14:37, Matthew Revell wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm looking I want to learn more about how and why people triage bugs,
 whether that’s in Launchpad or another bug tracker.


 Sorry I'm possibly being a bit thick here, when you say triage bugs, do
 you mean just reporting them or does it mean testing and fixing the bugs?

 Ta,

 Rob

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage has a good explanation of
what Bug Triage is and how to do it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-07 Thread jim.cameron
 On 6 April 2010 23:18, doug livesey biot...@gmail.com wrote:
  And if you're as appalled as other people, this may come in
  handy: http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/extremeinternetl
  You never know -- democracy might actually work.
  I know, I know ...
 
 Ok I've emailed my MP.

Most likely too little too late, but I also.

It did occur to me, though, that if everybody in the UK who uses Linux chipped 
in a few quid, we could buy a pretty nice holiday for Peter Mandelson. That's 
apparently how laws get passed in this country these days; we could probably 
get Windows outlawed completely. Anybody want to have a go?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel Case
Hahaha ^^

I'm in

~Daniel

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:20 PM,  jim.came...@buhlersortex.com wrote:
 On 6 April 2010 23:18, doug livesey biot...@gmail.com wrote:
  And if you're as appalled as other people, this may come in
  handy: http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/extremeinternetl
  You never know -- democracy might actually work.
  I know, I know ...
 
 Ok I've emailed my MP.

 Most likely too little too late, but I also.

 It did occur to me, though, that if everybody in the UK who uses Linux 
 chipped in a few quid, we could buy a pretty nice holiday for Peter 
 Mandelson. That's apparently how laws get passed in this country these days; 
 we could probably get Windows outlawed completely. Anybody want to have a go?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-07 Thread James Thomas
What a fabulous idea!
:)

Shame I think the irony would be lost in the chambers...



On 7 April 2010 15:22, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hahaha ^^

 I'm in

 ~Daniel

 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 3:20 PM,  jim.came...@buhlersortex.com wrote:
  On 6 April 2010 23:18, doug livesey biot...@gmail.com wrote:
   And if you're as appalled as other people, this may come in
   handy: http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/extremeinternetl
   You never know -- democracy might actually work.
   I know, I know ...
  
  Ok I've emailed my MP.
 
  Most likely too little too late, but I also.
 
  It did occur to me, though, that if everybody in the UK who uses Linux
 chipped in a few quid, we could buy a pretty nice holiday for Peter
 Mandelson. That's apparently how laws get passed in this country these days;
 we could probably get Windows outlawed completely. Anybody want to have a
 go?
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Mark Fraser
On Wednesday 07 Apr 2010 15:11:27 Jamie Bennett wrote:
 On 7 Apr 2010, at 14:49, Mark Fraser wrote:
  On Tuesday 06 Apr 2010 00:03:20 Alan Pope wrote:
  No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.
  
  50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
  inch touch screen device with:-
  
  1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
  1GB storage
  512MB RAM
  Wired ethernet
  Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
  Audio + headphone jack
  USB port
  
  Just done the telnet hack and for your information uname -a returns:
  Linux atom 2.6.24-19-lpia #1 SMP Fri Mar 19 18:15:43 EDT 2010 i686
  unknown
 
 Couldn't get the telnet hack to work, maybe its something to do with my usb
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-07 Thread John Matthews
The problem is, you do that, and you get this happen, which is what I 
posted about earlier this week.

http://mashable.com/2010/02/24/open-source-threatens-capitalism/

It seems that Open source is a threat to capitalism, and those who are 
loosing money because of it, are beginning to fight back.

John

On 07/04/10 16:50, pa...@fossbox.org.uk wrote:
 lol

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 Skype: bastubis
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 jim.came...@buhlersortex.com wrote:

 On 6 April 2010 23:18, doug liveseybiot...@gmail.com  wrote:


 And if you're as appalled as other people, this may come in
 handy: http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/extremeinternetl
 You never know -- democracy might actually work.
 I know, I know ...


  
 Ok I've emailed my MP.


 Most likely too little too late, but I also.

 It did occur to me, though, that if everybody in the UK who uses Linux 
 chipped in a few quid, we could buy a pretty nice holiday for Peter 
 Mandelson. That's apparently how laws get passed in this country these days; 
 we could probably get Windows outlawed completely. Anybody want to have a go?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 60, Issue 11

2010-04-07 Thread Teej
Why not have several Windows users chip in a few quid too! Stupid enough
to pay for it in the first place, might get him a place in the
Seychelles!! ;)


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 60, Issue 11

2010-04-07 Thread Dave Morley
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 18:52 +0100, Teej wrote:
 Why not have several Windows users chip in a few quid too! Stupid enough
 to pay for it in the first place, might get him a place in the
 Seychelles!! ;)
 
 
I'm sure it'll be cheaper to buy a blackmarket gun you know ;)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 60, Issue 11

2010-04-07 Thread Alan Pope
On 7 April 2010 18:55, Dave Morley davm...@davmor2.co.uk wrote:
 I'm sure it'll be cheaper to buy a blackmarket gun you know ;)

I appreciate this was meant as humorous, but lets not go down this direction.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] iPhone software....

2010-04-07 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 07/04/10 07:44, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
 On 07/04/10 01:28, John Matthews wrote:
 I just got myself an iPhone today, and was wondering, is there software
 fort it on Ubuntu? If so can somebody point me in the right direction?
 Hopefully for a novice to install.

 Hi John,

 I doubt that you will very find much available for the iPhone that works
 on Ubuntu.

Here I go, eating some humble pie.

popey just posted a link to an *amazing* video of Lucid Lynx (10.04) 
doing things to, and having things done by, an iPhone.

Watch and wonder: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGf4i_kxqRU

Al

PS - I still *really* don't like the way Apple operate and I bet this 
took some serious hacking to figure out. And of course, OS4 comes out in 
the next few days...


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel Case
I have also got telnet to work, had a look around the files, it seems
like it supports SSH too, not sure how to start it though.

~Daniel

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Mark Fraser
ubu...@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk wrote:
 On Wednesday 07 Apr 2010 15:11:27 Jamie Bennett wrote:
 On 7 Apr 2010, at 14:49, Mark Fraser wrote:
  On Tuesday 06 Apr 2010 00:03:20 Alan Pope wrote:
  No, not that Apple thing, but the O2 Joggler.
 
  50 quid (for 14 days from 2nd April) and free delivery gets you a 7
  inch touch screen device with:-
 
  1.3GHz Intel Atom CPU
  1GB storage
  512MB RAM
  Wired ethernet
  Broadcom b/g/n WiFi
  Audio + headphone jack
  USB port
 
  Just done the telnet hack and for your information uname -a returns:
  Linux atom 2.6.24-19-lpia #1 SMP Fri Mar 19 18:15:43 EDT 2010 i686
  unknown

 Couldn't get the telnet hack to work, maybe its something to do with my usb
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Digital economy bill

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel Case
Open source threatens capitalismwhat the hell :S

More like It threatens out business so we dont like it I thought
competition was meant to be good for the economy??

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 4:53 PM, John Matthews jake...@sky.com wrote:
 The problem is, you do that, and you get this happen, which is what I
 posted about earlier this week.

 http://mashable.com/2010/02/24/open-source-threatens-capitalism/

 It seems that Open source is a threat to capitalism, and those who are
 loosing money because of it, are beginning to fight back.

 John

 On 07/04/10 16:50, pa...@fossbox.org.uk wrote:
 lol

 / www.fossbox.org.uk
 pa...@fossbox.org.uk
 Tel: 020 7481 8479
 Skype: bastubis
 /



 jim.came...@buhlersortex.com wrote:

 On 6 April 2010 23:18, doug liveseybiot...@gmail.com  wrote:


 And if you're as appalled as other people, this may come in
 handy: http://www.38degrees.org.uk/page/speakout/extremeinternetl
 You never know -- democracy might actually work.
 I know, I know ...



 Ok I've emailed my MP.


 Most likely too little too late, but I also.

 It did occur to me, though, that if everybody in the UK who uses Linux 
 chipped in a few quid, we could buy a pretty nice holiday for Peter 
 Mandelson. That's apparently how laws get passed in this country these 
 days; we could probably get Windows outlawed completely. Anybody want to 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Alan Pope
On 7 April 2010 19:33, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I have also got telnet to work, had a look around the files, it seems
 like it supports SSH too, not sure how to start it though.


I've made some notes on the etherpad..

http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler

I have sshd running but can't ssh in just now. Maybe a config thing or
perhaps missing some other component.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel Case
Have you changed the permissions of the directory to 755?

~Daniel

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote:
 On 7 April 2010 19:33, Daniel Case danielcas...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I have also got telnet to work, had a look around the files, it seems
 like it supports SSH too, not sure how to start it though.


 I've made some notes on the etherpad..

 http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler

 I have sshd running but can't ssh in just now. Maybe a config thing or
 perhaps missing some other component.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
 I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
 fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)

 I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
 got an email that said:

 Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
 despatched to you within the next 5 days.

 Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
 the checkout process.

 Bruno

I got a similar email (I ordered online just after I saw Popey's
email), and it arrived today. Just setting up the default install now,
then I think I might flash it with UNE...


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Les
I'll be getting one of these little beauties later in the week.

Is it possible to backup the default OS, in case the Ubuntu install goes
wrong?

On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 21:10 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
 On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
  I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
  fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
 
  I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
  got an email that said:
 
  Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
  despatched to you within the next 5 days.
 
  Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
  the checkout process.
 
  Bruno
 
 I got a similar email (I ordered online just after I saw Popey's
 email), and it arrived today. Just setting up the default install now,
 then I think I might flash it with UNE...
 
 
 Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel Case
Install Ubuntu Netbook onto a USB and boot from it, then go a clone of
the current hard-drive into a network location, that should do it :)

~Daniel

On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Les lespoun...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I'll be getting one of these little beauties later in the week.

 Is it possible to backup the default OS, in case the Ubuntu install goes
 wrong?

 On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 21:10 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
 On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
  I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
  fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
 
  I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
  got an email that said:
 
  Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
  despatched to you within the next 5 days.
 
  Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
  the checkout process.
 
  Bruno

 I got a similar email (I ordered online just after I saw Popey's
 email), and it arrived today. Just setting up the default install now,
 then I think I might flash it with UNE...


 Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Les
Good thinking there mate, cheers.
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 22:04 +0100, Daniel Case wrote:
 Install Ubuntu Netbook onto a USB and boot from it, then go a clone of
 the current hard-drive into a network location, that should do it :)
 
 ~Daniel
 
 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Les lespoun...@googlemail.com wrote:
  I'll be getting one of these little beauties later in the week.
 
  Is it possible to backup the default OS, in case the Ubuntu install goes
  wrong?
 
  On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 21:10 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
  On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
   I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
   fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
  
   I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
   got an email that said:
  
   Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
   despatched to you within the next 5 days.
  
   Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
   the checkout process.
  
   Bruno
 
  I got a similar email (I ordered online just after I saw Popey's
  email), and it arrived today. Just setting up the default install now,
  then I think I might flash it with UNE...
 
 
  Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Les
Is this any good to anyone?

http://hackthejoggler.freeforums.org/index.php

On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 22:04 +0100, Daniel Case wrote:
 Install Ubuntu Netbook onto a USB and boot from it, then go a clone of
 the current hard-drive into a network location, that should do it :)
 
 ~Daniel
 
 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Les lespoun...@googlemail.com wrote:
  I'll be getting one of these little beauties later in the week.
 
  Is it possible to backup the default OS, in case the Ubuntu install goes
  wrong?
 
  On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 21:10 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
  On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
   I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
   fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
  
   I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
   got an email that said:
  
   Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
   despatched to you within the next 5 days.
  
   Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
   the checkout process.
  
   Bruno
 
  I got a similar email (I ordered online just after I saw Popey's
  email), and it arrived today. Just setting up the default install now,
  then I think I might flash it with UNE...
 
 
  Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The tablet everyone is talking about..

2010-04-07 Thread Daniel Case
we have a pad with all the links (including that one) on it:

http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/Joggler :)

Daniel


On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Les lespoun...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Is this any good to anyone?

 http://hackthejoggler.freeforums.org/index.php

 On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 22:04 +0100, Daniel Case wrote:
 Install Ubuntu Netbook onto a USB and boot from it, then go a clone of
 the current hard-drive into a network location, that should do it :)

 ~Daniel

 On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 9:13 PM, Les lespoun...@googlemail.com wrote:
  I'll be getting one of these little beauties later in the week.
 
  Is it possible to backup the default OS, in case the Ubuntu install goes
  wrong?
 
  On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 21:10 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote:
  On 7 April 2010 10:06, Bruno Girin brunogi...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 08:15 +0100, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
   I got the same - so Online appears to be the way forward, if they're
   fulfilling orders on a next-day delivery basis :)
  
   I must have been unlucky then. I ordered it online yesterday and then
   got an email that said:
  
   Your order is still being processed and, if accepted, should be
   despatched to you within the next 5 days.
  
   Maybe it's because I declined to register with Verified by Visa during
   the checkout process.
  
   Bruno
 
  I got a similar email (I ordered online just after I saw Popey's
  email), and it arrived today. Just setting up the default install now,
  then I think I might flash it with UNE...
 
 
  Cofion/Regards,
  Neil.
 
 
 
 
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