Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 20:58 +0100, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 15:35 +0100, Daniel Drummond wrote: The livecd offers no benefits to the process, in fact using an up to date system, rather than an out-of-date livecd may be a better idea, if purely for any bugfixes that may be present in the up to date system. This is an incredibly dangerous idea. When you're mucking around with partitions it is very, _very_, UNsafe to have the _device_ mounted. Having been building storage systems for the past 8 months, I've dealt with things in terrible states, one of the causes being people believing that repartitioning with a volume mounted is a good idea. Save yourself some grief, for the sake of downloading and creating a live CD, you'll probably save yourself having to reinstall the whole system. When I do this on customers machines the process is 1. Boot Live CD (or in my case USB as it's a touch quicker) 2. Make backup of entire drive (overnight usually due to this being on xxTB systems) onto some external storage 3. Use gparted to sort out partition 4. Check everything is fine, system boots, data is intact 5. Return system to customer 6. After a couple of weeks of no problems, remove the image. This would obviously need to be modified for your needs. _DO_ backup your important data. _DO NOT_ repartition a mounted device. Using a liveCD provides you with a clean environment. There is far less that can go wrong. Just my 2p worth of course. But taking time to do things properly is usually far quicker than having to undo things done badly. Matt Daubney Thank you Matt for telling me that you have actually seen drives messed up in this way. I still wonder why it should be so incredibly dangerous but you have convinced me that it is. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] HTC Phone connecting to Ubuntu
On Tuesday 25 May 2010 15:54:36 David Jones wrote: On 25/05/2010 15:50, John Matthews wrote: Snip Hi Everybody, thank you so much for your help. That worked, I was able to upload the pics to my HD via the filesystem using the USB. It still means though that you have to use windows for updates and things, yes? John -- Ubuntu User #30817 I've had a HTC Magic running Android for about 12 months, in all of that time, I've only ever connected it to a windows machine to transfer e-books to it. Any updates/application installs are done over the air using the phones normal 3G internet connection. That's not entirely true. If you need to upgrade the ROM in your phone then you'll only be able to do it from Windows - this is the page for the HTC Hero ROM update http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=283cat=2dl_id=671 -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Updating phone ROM was: HTC Phone connecting to Ubuntu
i am also running 2.1 Eclair on my G1looking forward to Froyo soon! On 26 May 2010 07:55, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 26 May 2010 07:50, Mark Fraser ubu...@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk wrote: On Tuesday 25 May 2010 15:54:36 David Jones wrote: Any updates/application installs are done over the air using the phones normal 3G internet connection. That's not entirely true. If you need to upgrade the ROM in your phone then you'll only be able to do it from Windows - this is the page for the HTC Hero ROM update http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=283cat=2dl_id=671 Indeed, I have an HTC Hero which up until very recently was running the HTC branded/modified Android 1.5. Jo Shields kindly wrote up a how-to guide detailing how to manually upgrade the ROM on the UK HTC Hero to Android 2.1. I followed this and am using the VanillaDroid ROM which works very nicely. I'm now able to use some of the applications (such as Google Goggles) that previously were unavailable to me in 1.5. http://forums.hexus.net/mobile-phones-accessories/186335-htc-hero-custom-rom-guide.html#post1927569 Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using ITV Player
On 25 May 2010 22:05, Harry Rickards ha...@linux.com wrote: On 25 May 2010, at 21:08, Jon Farmer j...@bctech.co.uk wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 17:38 +0100, Dianne Reuby wrote: Has anyone tried the ITV Player in Firefox in Lucid? I can play pre-watershed items, but others give another flash window which lets me choose whether I want a PIN or not. Whichever option I choose, it tells me my security settings don't allow me to store flash cookies, and do I want to modify them. Again, whether I choose yes or no makes no difference. And I only want to watch a programme about sailing around Cornwall - my mother would be happy for me to watch, I'm sure. :) Hi Yes, same problem with Firefox. Works seamlessly with Chrome though. Regards Jon Are you sure it works with Chrome? It doesn't for me (I installed chromium-browser I think). Thanks -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ I was having the same problem until I tried the below: $ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash $ sudo aptitude update $ sudo aptitude install flashplugin64-installer Once I restarted Firefox I was able to access iPlayer, ITV Player, Eurosport etc etc. The web page that I found it on (which I can't now find) suggested removing flashplugin-installer prior to running this. I must admit that I didn't and it does not appear to have caused me any problems. Stu -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Updating phone ROM was: HTC Phone connecting to Ubuntu
I'm running 2.1 Eclair on my G1 and also was running Froyo on my Nexus One :) Neil Perry On 26 May 2010 07:58, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: i am also running 2.1 Eclair on my G1looking forward to Froyo soon! On 26 May 2010 07:55, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 26 May 2010 07:50, Mark Fraser ubu...@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk wrote: On Tuesday 25 May 2010 15:54:36 David Jones wrote: Any updates/application installs are done over the air using the phones normal 3G internet connection. That's not entirely true. If you need to upgrade the ROM in your phone then you'll only be able to do it from Windows - this is the page for the HTC Hero ROM update http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=283cat=2dl_id=671 Indeed, I have an HTC Hero which up until very recently was running the HTC branded/modified Android 1.5. Jo Shields kindly wrote up a how-to guide detailing how to manually upgrade the ROM on the UK HTC Hero to Android 2.1. I followed this and am using the VanillaDroid ROM which works very nicely. I'm now able to use some of the applications (such as Google Goggles) that previously were unavailable to me in 1.5. http://forums.hexus.net/mobile-phones-accessories/186335-htc-hero-custom-rom-guide.html#post1927569 Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Updating phone ROM was: HTC Phone connecting to Ubuntu
On 26 May 2010 08:23, Neil Perry npe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm running 2.1 Eclair on my G1 and also was running Froyo on my Nexus One :) Neil Perry On 26 May 2010 07:58, javadayaz javada...@gmail.com wrote: i am also running 2.1 Eclair on my G1looking forward to Froyo soon! On 26 May 2010 07:55, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: http://forums.hexus.net/mobile-phones-accessories/186335-htc-hero-custom-rom-guide.html#post1927569 Cheers, Al. I'm running 2.1 on my Huawei U8220 (otherwise known as the T-Mobile Pulse, which is officially only at 1.5). Great little phone for £100. http://android.modaco.com/ - also an excellent resource for custom ROMs for HTC phones. Jonathon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Updating phone ROM was: HTC Phone connecting to Ubuntu
Hi popey, Cheers for the link, I was going to pester you later about which howto you referenced. Looking forward to some 2.1 love myself. :) JT On 26 May 2010 07:55, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 26 May 2010 07:50, Mark Fraser ubu...@mfraz.orangehome.co.uk wrote: On Tuesday 25 May 2010 15:54:36 David Jones wrote: Any updates/application installs are done over the air using the phones normal 3G internet connection. That's not entirely true. If you need to upgrade the ROM in your phone then you'll only be able to do it from Windows - this is the page for the HTC Hero ROM update http://www.htc.com/uk/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=283cat=2dl_id=671 Indeed, I have an HTC Hero which up until very recently was running the HTC branded/modified Android 1.5. Jo Shields kindly wrote up a how-to guide detailing how to manually upgrade the ROM on the UK HTC Hero to Android 2.1. I followed this and am using the VanillaDroid ROM which works very nicely. I'm now able to use some of the applications (such as Google Goggles) that previously were unavailable to me in 1.5. http://forums.hexus.net/mobile-phones-accessories/186335-htc-hero-custom-rom-guide.html#post1927569 Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] One Line Tips! Help request.
I want your one line tips! http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/UbuntuTips I'm gathering Ubuntu tips from people to read out on the podcast, and hoped some of you lot would be willing to contribute. Here's the skinny:- * They don't have to be command line tips (in fact command line tips are discouraged given there's plenty of places you can get them and they can be difficult to understand when read out) * They can be aimed at any level of user (we'll group/categorise them later) * They can be for any application, whether it's in the default install or not * They can be for any desktop environment / derivative, although the 'official' ones are encouraged, other popular derivatives are welcome too (e.g. Mint) * They should be short and sweet, paragraphs of text are not wanted here :) * Don't worry if you think your tip is too simple or too advanced. You'd be surprised how little other people know, and how useful your tip might be! * Don't worry too much about grammar, spelling and so on, they can be tidied later. * Please don't just copy/paste tips in from books/websites or other sources. Please write them in your own words I've put a few there to start off, and give you an idea of the style/length. Please help if you can. You probably know more than you think! Click the link above to start contributing! Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Call for help - ISO testing
On 13 May 2010 09:15, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: I'm sat here at the Ubuntu Developer Summit in Brussels and wanted to let people know about something and ask for volunteers to help. Thanks to everyone for responding and volunteering their time/resources! I'm just working on some documentation and I'll fire off a new mail to get us started before the first Alpha of Maverick which is due at the start of June. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using ITV Player
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 21:08 +0100, Jon Farmer wrote: Yes, same problem with Firefox. Works seamlessly with Chrome though. Regards Jon I've given Chrome a try, but with same results. Dianne -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] 10.04 LTS doesn't appear in my update manager
I have checked this several times. According to the settings it should show LTS releases. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.04 LTS doesn't appear in my update manager
On 26 May 2010 10:04, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: I have checked this several times. According to the settings it should show LTS releases. What version are you currently running? The lsb_release command helps here:- e.g. a...@bishop:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Release:10.04 Codename: lucid Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using ITV Player
Are you sure it works with Chrome? It doesn't for me (I installed chromium-browser I think). Yep, I was using it last night with ITV player. Regards Jon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.04 LTS doesn't appear in my update manager
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 12:00 +0100, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 26 May 2010 10:04, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: I have checked this several times. According to the settings it should show LTS releases. What version are you currently running? The lsb_release command helps here:- e.g. a...@bishop:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Release:10.04 Codename: lucid ro...@ubuntu:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 9.04 Release:9.04 Codename: jaunty I tried switching to the main server from the UK server but no difference. I've burned a copy of 10.04 LTS to a CD-R, though. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.04 LTS doesn't appear in my update manager
On 26/05/2010 12:31, Rowan Berkeley wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 12:00 +0100, Alan Popea...@popey.com wrote: On 26 May 2010 10:04, Rowan Berkeleyrowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: I have checked this several times. According to the settings it should show LTS releases. What version are you currently running? The lsb_release command helps here:- e.g. a...@bishop:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Release:10.04 Codename: lucid ro...@ubuntu:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 9.04 Release: 9.04 Codename: jaunty I tried switching to the main server from the UK server but no difference. I've burned a copy of 10.04 LTS to a CD-R, though. As you're on 9.04 which isn't a LTS version, you will need to upgrade firstly to 9.10 and then 10.04 if you use the automatic update facility. Within update manager, you should see a notification that a new version is available, but it'll refer to 9.10 and won't offer 10.04 until the upgrade to 9.10 is done. As it says at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes, To avoid damaging your running system, upgrading should only be done from one release to the next release (e.g. Ubuntu 9.04 to Ubuntu 9.10) or from one LTS release to the next (e.g. Ubuntu 6.06LTS to Ubuntu 8.04LTS). If you wish to 'skip' a version, you can backup your data and do a fresh installation, or progressively upgrade to each successive version. It is possible to miss a version during upgrades, but its normally not recommended as it can break thinigs. Hope that helps Dave -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 61, Issue 76
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 12:00 +0100, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 26 May 2010 10:04, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: I have checked this several times. According to the settings it should show LTS releases. What version are you currently running? The lsb_release command helps here:- e.g. a...@bishop:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Release:10.04 Codename: lucid In fact, it shows up if you change the settings from LTS Releases only to Normal Releases. I think having established that, I might as well go ahead and upgrade to it, so I shall do this now. The initial flurry of glitch reports seems to have subsided. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted
On 26 May 2010 07:29, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 20:58 +0100, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote: This is an incredibly dangerous idea. When you're mucking around with partitions it is very, _very_, UNsafe to have the _device_ mounted. Having been building storage systems for the past 8 months, I've dealt with things in terrible states, one of the causes being people believing that repartitioning with a volume mounted is a good idea. Save yourself some grief, for the sake of downloading and creating a live CD, you'll probably save yourself having to reinstall the whole system. When I do this on customers machines the process is 1. Boot Live CD (or in my case USB as it's a touch quicker) 2. Make backup of entire drive (overnight usually due to this being on xxTB systems) onto some external storage 3. Use gparted to sort out partition 4. Check everything is fine, system boots, data is intact 5. Return system to customer 6. After a couple of weeks of no problems, remove the image. This would obviously need to be modified for your needs. _DO_ backup your important data. _DO NOT_ repartition a mounted device. Using a liveCD provides you with a clean environment. There is far less that can go wrong. Just my 2p worth of course. But taking time to do things properly is usually far quicker than having to undo things done badly. Matt Daubney Thank you Matt for telling me that you have actually seen drives messed up in this way. I still wonder why it should be so incredibly dangerous but you have convinced me that it is. The why is because other programs could be trying to update bits of the disc as gparted tries to move it. It's a bit like trying to change the wheel on a car that doesn't have the handbrake on - it *might* not move... Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 61, Issue 76
On 26 May 2010 12:40, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 12:00 +0100, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 26 May 2010 10:04, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: I have checked this several times. According to the settings it should show LTS releases. What version are you currently running? The lsb_release command helps here:- e.g. a...@bishop:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Release: 10.04 Codename: lucid In fact, it shows up if you change the settings from LTS Releases only to Normal Releases. I think having established that, I might as well go ahead and upgrade to it, so I shall do this now. The initial flurry of glitch reports seems to have subsided. Hmm, this might be a bug. If you're not using an LTS release, you shouldn't be able to select the 'LTS Releases only' option, IMO. Cofion, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Still have upgrade problems
Hi When I run the Update manager and it scan for updates I get this: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BDB3D89CE49EC21 I am sure I had something like this in the past but am not sure how i got rid of it. Please help -- _ Cornelius Mostert Senior IT Specialist United Kingdom: 075 2233 4818 International: 0044 75 2233 4818 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still have upgrade problems
Hi, On 26 May 2010 13:36, Cornelius Mostert corneliusmost...@googlemail.com wrote: When I run the Update manager and it scan for updates I get this: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BDB3D89CE49EC21 Google + 9BDB3D89CE49EC21 = Lots of hits! :) http://wan.pengganas.net/entry/keep-your-ubuntu-updated/ gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 9BDB3D89CE49EC21 gpg --export --armor 9BDB3D89CE49EC21 | sudo apt-key add - Should sort it. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 61, Issue 76
In fact, it shows up if you change the settings from LTS Releases only to Normal Releases. I think having established that, I might as well go ahead and upgrade to it, so I shall do this now. The initial flurry of glitch reports seems to have subsided. given recent posts on moving around partitions would you not be better backing up and doing a fresh install rather then an upgrade? This would also avoid any upgrade woes. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Upgraded to 10.04 successfully
Just to let you all know :-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgraded to 10.04 successfully
Congrats, enjoy :) Neil Perry On 26 May 2010 13:48, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: Just to let you all know :-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgraded to 10.04 successfully
Enjoy the new version :) From: npe...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 13:49:46 +0100 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Upgraded to 10.04 successfully Congrats, enjoy :)Neil Perry On 26 May 2010 13:48, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: Just to let you all know :-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ _ Dela kalender. Se möjligheterna med Hotmail! http://www.microsoft.com/sverige/windows/windowslive/thenewbusy.aspx-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Still have upgrade problems
OK after the very first line I get c...@cjm-desktop:~/Videos/Desktop$ gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com gpg: WARNING: unsafe enclosing directory permissions on configuration file `/home/cjm/.gnupg/gpg.conf' gpg: Go ahead and type your message ... When I look at the Permissions I have read write my group read only and others none... -- _ Cornelius Mostert Senior IT Specialist United Kingdom: 075 2233 4818 International: 0044 75 2233 4818 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 13:51 +0100, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote: On 26 May 2010 07:29, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 20:58 +0100, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote: This is an incredibly dangerous idea. When you're mucking around with partitions it is very, _very_, UNsafe to have the _device_ mounted. Having been building storage systems for the past 8 months, I've dealt with things in terrible states, one of the causes being people believing that repartitioning with a volume mounted is a good idea. Matt Daubney Thank you Matt for telling me that you have actually seen drives messed up in this way. I still wonder why it should be so incredibly dangerous but you have convinced me that it is. Rowan The why is because other programs could be trying to update bits of the disc as gparted tries to move it. It's a bit like trying to change the wheel on a car that doesn't have the handbrake on - it *might* not move... Cofion/Regards, Neil. Quite so, but all the program files and associated data are in sda1, which remains mounted. The only things in the partitions that are being moved are the swap space and the user files. The swap space could certainly be called on while one was moving it, but there are special procedures to cope with this, namely making a new swap space where you want it, then somehow setting the machine to switch over from using the old swap space to the new swap space next time it starts up, thus avoiding any overlaps. At least, I assume that is the idea. The user files (My Documents, My Music, etc.) are not updated by anything. The whole essence of this is that one is not talking about unmounting the entire internal hard disk; each partition can be separately mounted and unmounted, hopefully without affecting the others. What, by the way, does 'Cofion' mean? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted
On 26 May 2010 14:46, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: Quite so, but all the program files and associated data are in sda1, which remains mounted. The only things in the partitions that are being moved are the swap space and the user files. The swap space could certainly be called on while one was moving it, but there are special procedures to cope with this, namely making a new swap space where you want it, then somehow setting the machine to switch over from using the old swap space to the new swap space next time it starts up, thus avoiding any overlaps. At least, I assume that is the idea. The user files (My Documents, My Music, etc.) are not updated by anything. The whole essence of this is that one is not talking about unmounting the entire internal hard disk; each partition can be separately mounted and unmounted, hopefully without affecting the others. There are lots of files in your home directory and indeed elsewhere that get written to (and read from) whilst you're 'doing nothing'. So I wouldn't assume that the filesystem is safe to be played with just because you don't have any desktop applications open. Still, I personally wouldn't monkey with partitions on a disk that has already mounted ones, especially not a productive system. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:46 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 13:51 +0100, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote: On 26 May 2010 07:29, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 20:58 +0100, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote: This is an incredibly dangerous idea. When you're mucking around with partitions it is very, _very_, UNsafe to have the _device_ mounted. Having been building storage systems for the past 8 months, I've dealt with things in terrible states, one of the causes being people believing that repartitioning with a volume mounted is a good idea. Matt Daubney Thank you Matt for telling me that you have actually seen drives messed up in this way. I still wonder why it should be so incredibly dangerous but you have convinced me that it is. Rowan The why is because other programs could be trying to update bits of the disc as gparted tries to move it. It's a bit like trying to change the wheel on a car that doesn't have the handbrake on - it *might* not move... Cofion/Regards, Neil. Quite so, but all the program files and associated data are in sda1, which remains mounted. The only things in the partitions that are being moved are the swap space and the user files. The swap space could certainly be called on while one was moving it, but there are special procedures to cope with this, namely making a new swap space where you want it, then somehow setting the machine to switch over from using the old swap space to the new swap space next time it starts up, thus avoiding any overlaps. At least, I assume that is the idea. The user files (My Documents, My Music, etc.) are not updated by anything. The whole essence of this is that one is not talking about unmounting the entire internal hard disk; each partition can be separately mounted and unmounted, hopefully without affecting the others. type 'ps axf' in a terminal while you're doing nothing. How many of those running processes do you know enough about to guarantee none of them won't try and access the partition you're monkeying with? 1,2? I'd really be surprised if it was all of them. Running from a live CD reduces this risk significantly. Seriously, I believe in the idea of For every problem that I can think of, there are 10 I can't. -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 61, Issue 76
On 26 May 2010 13:44, Dan Attwood danattw...@googlemail.com wrote: In fact, it shows up if you change the settings from LTS Releases only to Normal Releases. I think having established that, I might as well go ahead and upgrade to it, so I shall do this now. The initial flurry of glitch reports seems to have subsided. given recent posts on moving around partitions would you not be better backing up and doing a fresh install rather then an upgrade? This would also avoid any upgrade woes. Also it is a good oportunity to clean things up and get the best out of your system. I tend to do a complete reinstall for LTS versions just to spring clean, even creating a new home folder so I get rid of old config files that I dont need. -- John Stevenson jr0cket.com leanagilemachine.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Updating phone ROM was: HTC Phone connecting to Ubuntu
Alan Pope wrote: ... Indeed, I have an HTC Hero which up until very recently was running the HTC branded/modified Android 1.5. Jo Shields kindly wrote up a how-to guide detailing how to manually upgrade the ROM on the UK HTC Hero to Android 2.1. I followed this and am using the VanillaDroid ROM which works very nicely. I'm now able to use some of the applications (such as Google Goggles) that previously were unavailable to me in 1.5. http://forums.hexus.net/mobile-phones-accessories/186335-htc-hero-custom-rom-guide.html#post1927569 Thanks for that Alan - I'm in exact same position: still running 1.5 that my Hero came with. Even ROM has not been updated - T-Mobile doesn't want to know, as I have unbranded SIM-free version, not their customised one, and I don't have Windows box to update it here myself. What is the best backup app to take care of all the installed programs and settings (contacts and calendar are on Google anyway)? Or is it best to reinstall and re-apply settings? Probably is ... :~/ -- Cheers, Dave -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Updating phone ROM was: HTC Phone connecting to Ubuntu
you dont need a windows box. Dowload and flash the nandroid backup. Then root your phone. Then install the latest ROM. Instructions are on Google! On 26 May 2010 15:46, DaveGK dav...@gmail.com wrote: Alan Pope wrote: ... Indeed, I have an HTC Hero which up until very recently was running the HTC branded/modified Android 1.5. Jo Shields kindly wrote up a how-to guide detailing how to manually upgrade the ROM on the UK HTC Hero to Android 2.1. I followed this and am using the VanillaDroid ROM which works very nicely. I'm now able to use some of the applications (such as Google Goggles) that previously were unavailable to me in 1.5. http://forums.hexus.net/mobile-phones-accessories/186335-htc-hero-custom-rom-guide.html#post1927569 Thanks for that Alan - I'm in exact same position: still running 1.5 that my Hero came with. Even ROM has not been updated - T-Mobile doesn't want to know, as I have unbranded SIM-free version, not their customised one, and I don't have Windows box to update it here myself. What is the best backup app to take care of all the installed programs and settings (contacts and calendar are on Google anyway)? Or is it best to reinstall and re-apply settings? Probably is ... :~/ -- Cheers, Dave -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 15:56 +0100, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: There are lots of files in your home directory and indeed elsewhere that get written to (and read from) whilst you're 'doing nothing'. Really? I had no idea. That certainly makes all the difference. Maybe I should look for hidden files in my home directory, that might give me some idea of what they are. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.04 LTS doesn't appear in my update manager
On 26/05/10 10:08, Alan Pope wrote: On 26 May 2010 10:04, Rowan Berkeleyrowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: I have checked this several times. According to the settings it should show LTS releases. What version are you currently running? The lsb_release command helps here:- e.g. a...@bishop:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Release:10.04 Codename: lucid I also saw no version update invitation listed when using 8.04.4 (updated) LTS. Searches gave a command line string to mave th eLTS to LTS version update, which I have not yet used. However, the Systemadministrationsoftware sources (updates) is set in my machines (and of my friends' too) to 'LTS releases only'. I hope that an elegant method of LTS to LTS version upgrade will emerge because LTS tends to be used by people who include those less confident. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted
On 26 May 2010 16:06, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: Really? I had no idea. That certainly makes all the difference. Maybe I should look for hidden files in my home directory, that might give me some idea of what they are. Open nautilus file manager and navigate to your home directory. Press CTRL+H to show hidden files. You'll notice they all start with a full stop. I'd recommend not monkeying with any of them :) Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 16:23 +0100, Alan Pope wrote: Open nautilus file manager and navigate to your home directory. Press CTRL+H to show hidden files. You'll notice they all start with a full stop. I'd recommend not monkeying with any of them :) Reminds me of a relative who phoned me a few years ago and complained his (Windows) PC wouldn't boot. What were you doing when you last used it? Just deleting some files I never use Like what? command.com, something like that You may have a problem there ... :) Dianne -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 10.04 LTS doesn't appear in my update manager
On 26/05/10 16:22, Alan Pope wrote: On 26 May 2010 16:16, alan caecl...@candt.waitrose.com wrote: I hope that an elegant method of LTS to LTS version upgrade will emerge because LTS tends to be used by people who include those less confident. As I understand it LTS to LTS upgrades don't get enabled in update-manager until the point 1 release. So that would be when 10.04.1 is out in late July. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule Cheers, Al. Thanks. That makes good sense and also explains a (indirect) comment I saw from a Canonical employee. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Strange behaviour of system monitor
The command 'lsb release -a' gives the same result as the system monitor, and I can paste it. In fact, I am pretty sure I upgraded to 9.10 last year. Previous to upgrading today to 10.04 I had this: ro...@ubuntu:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 9.04 Release:9.04 Codename: jaunty Now that I've upgraded to 10.04 I have this: ro...@ubuntu:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 9.10 Release:9.10 Codename: karmic It seems always to be one version behind. Rowan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted
Ar Mer, 2010-05-26 am 14:46 +0100, ysgrifennodd Rowan Berkeley: On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 13:51 +0100, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote: On 26 May 2010 07:29, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 20:58 +0100, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote: This is an incredibly dangerous idea. When you're mucking around with partitions it is very, _very_, UNsafe to have the _device_ mounted. Having been building storage systems for the past 8 months, I've dealt with things in terrible states, one of the causes being people believing that repartitioning with a volume mounted is a good idea. Matt Daubney Thank you Matt for telling me that you have actually seen drives messed up in this way. I still wonder why it should be so incredibly dangerous but you have convinced me that it is. Rowan The why is because other programs could be trying to update bits of the disc as gparted tries to move it. It's a bit like trying to change the wheel on a car that doesn't have the handbrake on - it *might* not move... Cofion/Regards, Neil. What, by the way, does 'Cofion' mean? Rather off topic but cofion is Welsh directly translated as memories but in this instance it can and does mean regards. All the best, Chris. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Meego and Ubuntu
Hey all; As some of you may know, Meego for Netbooks was released today ( http://meego.com/downloads/releases/netbook) and I thinking about dual-booting it with UNE, but was wondering if anyone else has tried it yet, and if you have, how is it? I'm downloading it as I type Cheers; Liam -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted
On 26 May 2010 15:12, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 14:46 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 13:51 +0100, Neil Greenwood neil.greenwood@gmail.com wrote: On 26 May 2010 07:29, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@googlemail.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 20:58 +0100, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote: This is an incredibly dangerous idea. When you're mucking around with partitions it is very, _very_, UNsafe to have the _device_ mounted. Having been building storage systems for the past 8 months, I've dealt with things in terrible states, one of the causes being people believing that repartitioning with a volume mounted is a good idea. Matt Daubney Thank you Matt for telling me that you have actually seen drives messed up in this way. I still wonder why it should be so incredibly dangerous but you have convinced me that it is. Rowan The why is because other programs could be trying to update bits of the disc as gparted tries to move it. It's a bit like trying to change the wheel on a car that doesn't have the handbrake on - it *might* not move... Cofion/Regards, Neil. Quite so, but all the program files and associated data are in sda1, which remains mounted. The only things in the partitions that are being moved are the swap space and the user files. The swap space could certainly be called on while one was moving it, but there are special procedures to cope with this, namely making a new swap space where you want it, then somehow setting the machine to switch over from using the old swap space to the new swap space next time it starts up, thus avoiding any overlaps. At least, I assume that is the idea. The user files (My Documents, My Music, etc.) are not updated by anything. The whole essence of this is that one is not talking about unmounting the entire internal hard disk; each partition can be separately mounted and unmounted, hopefully without affecting the others. type 'ps axf' in a terminal while you're doing nothing. How many of those running processes do you know enough about to guarantee none of them won't try and access the partition you're monkeying with? 1,2? I'd really be surprised if it was all of them. Running from a live CD reduces this risk significantly. Seriously, I believe in the idea of For every problem that I can think of, there are 10 I can't. -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ 'lsof' is another fun command - it shows what processes have what files open. 'lsof | grep /home' shows you what files in the home directory are open. Surely when the /home filesystem is unmounted, any attempt to access /home will access the folder /home stored on the root partition, and not on the /home filesystem? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Daubers, Matthew Daubney wrote: [snip!] Secondly, thanks to the people who turned up to my (frankly awful) talk at Oggcamp on this subject. Next time I have a chance to talk about what I'm trying to achieve I _should_ be able to do it better! As a result of that I have some notes I'm slowly going through to gain some ideas of how to move forward, but this moves me onto point three. Well I was in that talk and I thought you did fine, so thank you. So really, what drives you to support people? What, in your own opinion, could be done to help motivate yourself to do better? So many reasons I'm bound to forget as many as I list. * I believe in the software and the people behind it. * I believe in the power of the community - if we each do a little bit we can achieve a lot. * I like sticking it to The Man! * I was that cluebie newless once! * When I first started *really* using Ubuntu a few years ago, Popey was a massive inspiration to me, my hero. As time has gone on, more people have done the same. I hope that I can inspire people and maybe be someone's hero too. * Supporting other users is one way of giving back to a community that has given me so much. * Sometimes that little bit of help makes someone's day. * Sometimes they even thank you! * It's beneficial for me to understand users' problems. * It's beneficial for me to demonstrate that I know the answers to users' problems. * It's beneficial for me to learn from users' problems. * I cannot bear to think of a life where every day I get up, drop the kids at school, go to work, pick the kids up, go back to work, come home, eat, go to bed and start all over again. * Often my day job is so infuriatingly frustrating I like to achieve something with my evening so the day isn't wasted. * I'm a geek. * I enjoy a challenge and don't like to quit. There are *loads* more, but that should get you started. It's not all philanthropic, I do stuff that benefits me too - but the beauty of Free Software is that even when I'm scratching my own itch, I'm usually scratching someone else's itch too. Hope this helps, JT - -- - ---+ James Tait, BSc|xmpp:jayte...@wyrddreams.org Programmer and Free Software advocate | VoIP: +44 (0)870 490 2407 - ---+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkv9q/AACgkQyDo4xMNTLiahTgCg94q1FR3LEcY4LJkvpsjIM96L KkwAn3+G1daKwrGBS65TeIO49nCK/prX =6q4/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Improving Support
I like to think that if you can help people with things that you understand but they don't then they might help you in the future in kind... I understand absolutely zilch about cars, for instance, so if I can assist somebody in getting through their trauma with computers should something go wrong with my car I can get advice in that regard - win win! But I am not a Linux evangelist -- sometimes Linux is not the answer to their issues, perhaps something like Openoffice might be, but often it's a case of trying to battle with the enigma that is Windows to give them the solution they want. And I think that is important, because there is a certain gentleman in Glastonbury who I watched many years ago completely alienating Windows users by telling them they were stupid for sticking with Windows. If it's what they're comfortable with then it is not our job to try to beat them senseless with a metaphorical stick until they change. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using Gparted
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 00:17 +0100, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: Open nautilus file manager and navigate to your home directory. Press CTRL+H to show hidden files. You'll notice they all start with a full stop. I'd recommend not monkeying with any of them :) Cheers, Al. Too true, upwards of seventy folders. Many of them are associated with user applications, but some are gnome files. On Wed, 26 May 2010 16:45:15 +0100, Dianne Reuby pramc...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Reminds me of a relative who phoned me a few years ago and complained his (Windows) PC wouldn't boot. What were you doing when you last used it? Just deleting some files I never use Like what? command.com, something like that You may have a problem there ... :) Dianne Well, I've never been that bad. But I should have recalled that in fact there is a similar distribution of hidden files in the user space in windows too. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
