[ubuntu-uk] Photo Tagging and Search
Hi all I have, very foolishly in hindsight, offered to help my partner to bring order to her tens of thousands of digital pictures. You can guess what the main problem is, one of being able to find that picture of the cute whatever she took on holiday a couple of years ago. All the pictures are currently stored on USB HDDs and is nearing about 1 Tb in data! Oh, and the solution has to be cross platform, and not rely on cloud based storage. So, my first stumbling block seems to be around trying to comprehend what you can actually store as tags in a .jpg file. I am confused as some articles say that you can add custom tags to a jpg file and the file will keep those tags as it is moved around, whilst others imply that as soon as you move it from it's current location, the tags disappear; the latter seems to me to imply that the directory entry for the file holds the tags as opposed to the actual file itself. Can somebody please clarify this for me? Secondly, is a cross platform app that can do the tagging - don't want anything server based as to be honest I haven't the know how or expertise to do this, although over time this is my goal. The top runner at the moment is F-Spot which seems to be in the process of being ported to Windows, but is still someway off of being ready, so any other alternatives? The USP for this software would be for it to be able to bulk update tags. Unless anyone knows different, I think that the last requirement which is to be able to quickly search for items meeting a set of criteria will have to wait until I bite the server bullet. I should say that the only criteria I have here is that the files themselves should not solely exist as blobs in a database for retrieval. This is my partners requirement as she want to be able to physically take her pictures with her when we go a visiting to parents to show them off as they don't necessarily have access to the internet through either wired or wireless means. Any help and guidance would really be appreciated. Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Photo Tagging and Search
Thanks all, appreciated. I glanced at Picasa and from initial inspection thought this was a cloud based solution - so I'll now go back and actually read some of the background and see what it can do as a client based piece of software. Ian. -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]On Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 28 June 2011 15:52 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Photo Tagging and Search On 28 June 2011 15:22, Jon Spriggs j...@sprig.gs wrote: The first one (about getting TinyCore running in QEMU) is here: http://jon.sprig.gs/blog/2011/06/28/experimenting-with-tiny-core-linux-on-qe mu/ In response to a post on the Ubuntu UK Loco mailing list today, I thought the perfect way to produce a cross-platform, stable web server… would be to create a QEMU bootable image of Tiny Core. Cross-platform stable web-server is surely your filesystem. Far easier for someone to double click an html file in a folder which references a images in subdirectories on the USB disk rather than spinning up a VM? i.e. the requirement to take the photos to someones house to show them should surely just mean taking the photos in a presentable way, not taking an entire (virtual) machine? I suspect this may be over-engineering it. Most photo apps have an export function to spit the photos out in some way. Some can even spit photos out in a static html gallery on disk. For example Picasa can spit the images out:- http://picasa.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=11067 In fact Picasa would probably do everything the OP wants. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] FireFox and SQLite
Morning All I'm in the process of installing GNUCash on both my Windows and Ubuntu boxes, both of which currently have FF as the browser. I seem to remember that FF uses SQLite as it's own back end, but have a nagging memory that Mozilla have optimised it for FF's use and this makes it unusable for any other application. Can anyone confirm this please as I want to use SQLite as the backend for GNUCash too and want to know if I need to install SQLite, or use the FF one? Regards Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] OT: Weiki Reader
Morning all Knowing that we've some gadget geeks onm this list, I wondered if anyone had as yet got a Weiki Reader - the latest offering from Open Moco. I came across this whilst catching up on my LWN reading (http://lwn.net/Articles/366927/#Comments) and thought this might be a great little device to keep tabs on during the year, and at only $99 it wouldn't break the bank if it turned out to be a door stop! Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Web Collabaration
Gents Thanks for the responses. I'll ask Mr Google some questions and see what I find out. Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Jon Spriggs Sent: 15 December 2009 11:09 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Web Collabaration I really like the Horde groupware suite. Check it out over at horde.org Regards, -- Jon The Nice Guy Spriggs LPIC-1 Certified 2009/12/14 Ian Pascoe softy.lofty@btinternet.com: Folks Before I ask the question, my hand is firmly in the air admitting to the fact that apart from some HTML coding, I have no web programming experience. With that being said, I'm looking for a FOS project, Operating System independant, that will allow a number of different organisations to collaborate on a single system. These organisations would be filling in data against an individual, and the individual would need to be able to see all the data relevant to them only, from each organisation. The data being represented would be one of three different types - membership including personal information, current qualifications and when testing is next required, and activity scheduling. Individual's privacy and security is paramount, so the system would need to be protected by a secure login - OpenID would be a fine option I believe. If there were modules that would allow, for instance, mailing of upcoming activities and training sessions that would certainly be a boost, or even a module to allow for printing of such items, or getting really carried away, texting. I have a feeling that Droople falls into this category, and certainly seems to have a multitude of modules, but is rather scary for someone like me starting out from scratch Are there other alternatives that would offer such a collabaration? I have no objection to learning more about a particular project, but I don't really want to spend a number of months on one project to find out that it's limitations or direction don't actually match what I'm looking for. So, to add to the wish list, something that does not require an in depth knowledge of web technologies, but can be merely bolted together, some configuration and form design done in a nice GUI environment and is happy to reside on either a VPS or an actual physical box. Lastly, the ability to link instances of the project across different remote independant servers would be nice. I've used MS's SharePoint system at a previous job, and this appears to have the basics I'm looking for, but it has it's own set of problems, apart from the obvious one! Thanks Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] OT: Web Collabaration
Folks Before I ask the question, my hand is firmly in the air admitting to the fact that apart from some HTML coding, I have no web programming experience. With that being said, I'm looking for a FOS project, Operating System independant, that will allow a number of different organisations to collaborate on a single system. These organisations would be filling in data against an individual, and the individual would need to be able to see all the data relevant to them only, from each organisation. The data being represented would be one of three different types - membership including personal information, current qualifications and when testing is next required, and activity scheduling. Individual's privacy and security is paramount, so the system would need to be protected by a secure login - OpenID would be a fine option I believe. If there were modules that would allow, for instance, mailing of upcoming activities and training sessions that would certainly be a boost, or even a module to allow for printing of such items, or getting really carried away, texting. I have a feeling that Droople falls into this category, and certainly seems to have a multitude of modules, but is rather scary for someone like me starting out from scratch Are there other alternatives that would offer such a collabaration? I have no objection to learning more about a particular project, but I don't really want to spend a number of months on one project to find out that it's limitations or direction don't actually match what I'm looking for. So, to add to the wish list, something that does not require an in depth knowledge of web technologies, but can be merely bolted together, some configuration and form design done in a nice GUI environment and is happy to reside on either a VPS or an actual physical box. Lastly, the ability to link instances of the project across different remote independant servers would be nice. I've used MS's SharePoint system at a previous job, and this appears to have the basics I'm looking for, but it has it's own set of problems, apart from the obvious one! Thanks Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Anyone running a tablet
Have to admit didn't think there was much of a price difference between tablets and netbooks / smartbooks perhaps a wonder into the Interweb is called for. Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of gerry Sent: 30 November 2009 17:36 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Anyone running a tablet I run an eee pc touch under 9.10 and all seems to work except Things which I haven't fixed 1 camera works under Skype but not cheese 2 the wirless network is not as good as the original eee 3 when in tablet mode there isn't any on screen keyboard (that I have found) Unless someone's different !!! Regards Gerry -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Exchange 2007 Support in Karmic
Have heard some good things about OpenChange; never used it or seen it in action though. Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Alan Lord (News) Sent: 13 November 2009 06:42 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Exchange 2007 Support in Karmic On 12/11/09 16:45, Paul Roach wrote: Wondered whether anyone on the list has had any joy/luck with Evolution and MS Exchange 2007. I've read a lot online about incompatibility due to MS sacking WebDAV - which is effectively how Evolution-Exchange and Exchange 2003 talk to each other, but haven't been able to find (m)any success stories. I'd love to move the messaging architecture over to something open source - but at the same time I'm looking for simplicity of deployment to our predominantly MS users (who heavily use shared Calendars/Tasks and Public Folders in Exchange). I've looked at Horde, eGroupware and Lotus Notes but Horde and eGroupware fail to tick all the boxes and Notes works out more expensive on licencing. Effectively for the next few years it looks like I'm stuck with MS and Active Directory - I'm just hoping that I don't end up breaking my own systems in the process so any comments would be appreciated. Take a look at Zimbra and Zimbra Desktop and also a project called OpenChange which is buiding an Exchange Proxy. Alan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] GIMP Add-In Maybe?
Thanks to all who replied. I'll spend some time over the weekend looking at the various links supplied. I've purchased a standalone slide and negative scanner that was posted to this list during the Summer. I've gone for this one as it has the option to either scan directly into the PC or if there's a compatability problem onto a SD card. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Veho-VFS-006QV-generation-stand-alone-scanner/dp/B00 1O3HZKA/ref=sr_1_5/280-7036929-4332443?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1247556074 sr=1-5) It's in it's box waiting to be liberated in the very near future! Cheers Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Norman Silverstone Sent: 10 November 2009 11:10 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] GIMP Add-In Maybe? snip What scanning techniques, or equipment are you using please? I have an attachment that I fix to my point ? I do not understand this, sorry, is it a typo? I am very sorry, I must have been half asleep. I bought an attachment for may camera from a supplier in USA which enables me to copy slides in various mountings or negatives, individually or in strip form and is completely Ubuntu friendly. The gadget fits on my point and press and includes supplementary lenses for close up work. I hope this is helpful. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] GIMP Add-In Maybe?
Evening all I have the pleasant task over the Winter months to start to scan in a few thousand 35mm colour negatives. However, before I start I wonder if anyone knows of anything that will turn a digitised colour negative into a colour positive. I've wandered through the GIMP, but really haven't a clue as to what I'm looking for. Anyone know of any app that will do this conversion and do it well as once completed and stored in multiple places, as you do, the negatives are to be disposed of. Cheers Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Dell Mini 10
Thanks to all who replied. Looks like the Atom 2xx series is going to be the option. Again thanks. Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Tony Pursell Sent: 01 November 2009 16:49 To: npe...@gmail.com; UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Dell Mini 10 Or you can look at: http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/processors/202845/intel-atom and http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-atom-cpu,1947-3.html BTW, TDP is Thermal Design Power. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_Design_Power Tony On 1 Nov 2009 at 10:22, Neil Perry wrote: Only thing I can find which might make a little bit of difference, not sure how much though. http://www.yugatech.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/atom-z530-vs-n270.gi f Hope this helps Neil Perry 2009/11/1 Ian Pascoe softy.lofty@btinternet.com An Autumnal Morning to you all! Been doing some research for my new Xmas toy, and as the title says it looks like it's going to be the Dell Mini 10. My reasoning is totally subjective, and it's down to the keyboard - I like the sloping keys! However, a question for those of you in the know. There are two variants of this Netbook, the Mini 10 and the Mini 10v. Looking at Dell's site, the major difference appears to be the BPU - one being an Atom 270 and the other being an Atom 530, both clocked at 1.6 GHz. So, what, as an end user, should I know to make an informed decision about which CPU to go with? OS will be Ubuntu but the Netbook reMix I think, not the standard Dell one. Cheers Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] OT: Dell Mini 10
An Autumnal Morning to you all! Been doing some research for my new Xmas toy, and as the title says it looks like it's going to be the Dell Mini 10. My reasoning is totally subjective, and it's down to the keyboard - I like the sloping keys! However, a question for those of you in the know. There are two variants of this Netbook, the Mini 10 and the Mini 10v. Looking at Dell's site, the major difference appears to be the BPU - one being an Atom 270 and the other being an Atom 530, both clocked at 1.6 GHz. So, what, as an end user, should I know to make an informed decision about which CPU to go with? OS will be Ubuntu but the Netbook reMix I think, not the standard Dell one. Cheers Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu- With Voice control
Yep, lots of people working on voice / speech recognition, but still lots of problems to overcome - the least of which are the kernels audio sub system, and that current versions require the real-time kernel too! Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of javadayaz Sent: 15 September 2009 14:32 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu- With Voice control you make a valid point! 2009/9/15 Jonathon Fernyhough j.fernyho...@gmail.com 2009/9/15 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: 2009/9/15 Alan Pope a...@popey.com 2009/9/15 javadayaz javada...@gmail.com: How well has this been implemented in the Ubuntu Environment? A pc controlled by voice (especially its media) is what im thinking of here! Seems a popular idea:- http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1826/ Cheers, Al. it just occurred to me that a voice controlled media centre would be really cool. The only problem i can forsee is, if playing with high volume, the pc might not pick up the user's voice. Or when you offend your Ubuntu installation by playing loud rap music. I hesitate to think what effect The Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up would have... -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- Regards Javad -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] text to speech apps
The eSpeek package is only the voice, not the entire TTS suite. For the audio book scenario suggested, I'm not even sure that the quality of the voice would be sufficient. The entire TTS package, through the Gnome (only) desktop at the moment is through the Orca package. If you want to try it out first before committing yourself, you might want to try either the standard Ubuntu Live CD and use the Assistive Technologies option, or ViLinux a Ubuntu derivitive that is aimed specifically at getting Orca to work straight out of the box; the Assistive Technologies install is a bit flaky on the standard Ubuntu install due to some conflicts that weren't ironed out before release. None of the other free desktops have anything, as yet, to match Orca, although with the migration to D-Bus, this is likely to change for KDE at least over the next few years. Oh, and don't expect much in the way of inflections in the TTS voice, it can be quite monotonus! *Unashamed plug* If anyone out there wants to contribute, in any of the normal FOS ways, please don't be backward in coming forward you don't have to work on the core Assistive Technologies, just trying your favourite apps with Orca, or the AT Test Engine, and filing bugs to the upstream projects will help. Cheers Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Paul Sladen Sent: 14 August 2009 12:43 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] text to speech apps On Thu, 13 Aug 2009, javadayaz wrote: I want to convert from text to speech. Does anyone know of any free apps 'espeak' is already pre-installed on any Ubuntu desktop. You can run: $ espeak Hello, I'm using Oobuntu! Or, if you to enable speech in the desktop environment, you can do: System-Preferences-Assistive Technologies-Enable assistive technologies -Paul -- Why do one side of a triangle when you can do all three. Somewhere, GB. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless File Server
Hi Rob Have to admit I did wonder about installing a desktop for this very feature, but it does seem somewhat of an overkill! Cheers Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 01 August 2009 14:49 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless File Server Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi all Some pointers please. I am having to move my 9.04 SAMBA file / printer server to another room at home which doesn't have ethernet cabled into it. I'm looking for an alternative way to connect it back into the network. I know of the powerline adaptors, but not keen on this solution. I would like to try and set up a wireless connection, but would like advice on whether any of the network managers, or other network monitoring apps, can be installed and setup to scan for my AP when it disappears, and reconnect once it reappears. Cheers Ian. Well I'm not sure about Ubuntu server but at least on Ubuntu Desktop it is intelligent enough to automatically connect to my wireless networks when it is in range. Hope this helps. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless File Server
Cheers Rob That article looks like just the ticket - all I've got to do now is understand it! Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 02 August 2009 16:26 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless File Server Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi Rob Have to admit I did wonder about installing a desktop for this very feature, but it does seem somewhat of an overkill! Cheers Ian Yep I agree, I mean for a headless server I'd generally use just the server install although I'm not sure how easy it is to configure wireless from the command line, never managed to do it myself, but then I only have wireless on my notebook. Doing a quick Google search popped up this... http://modelr.wordpress.com/2009/06/01/how-to-get-wireless-network-on-ubuntu -server/ If you card works out of the box without any drivers then you may find that this guide works (just skip the ndiswrapper stuff and go straight to the WPA section). Hope this helps, I'd be interested to know if you manage to get it working. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Wireless File Server
Hi all Some pointers please. I am having to move my 9.04 SAMBA file / printer server to another room at home which doesn't have ethernet cabled into it. I'm looking for an alternative way to connect it back into the network. I know of the powerline adaptors, but not keen on this solution. I would like to try and set up a wireless connection, but would like advice on whether any of the network managers, or other network monitoring apps, can be installed and setup to scan for my AP when it disappears, and reconnect once it reappears. Cheers Ian. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] information manager for ubuntu / gnome
Hi Paul Just to point out the obvious, if you want something that is just on your desktop, then go along with whatever you feel comfortable with. However, if you want to be able to synch the various parts of the PIM, then either follow the advice provided so far, remembering that by using G-Mail as the synch server it is outside of your direct control - privacy and all that. But, there are a number of alternatives that can be used that can be either run on your desktop or server that will synch up to various other PIMs. Problem is that there is not one standard especially when you want to start synch to mobiles etc. Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of darren.mans...@opengi.co.uk Sent: 27 July 2009 13:55 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] information manager for ubuntu / gnome I use Gmail with Gcal as it now has Google Docs enabled in which you can add a document to an event and then send an email as well, in which you can then add to Gtasks as well and works really quickly, the you can also send it to your mobile at a set time, which is really useful! Also you can work from Gmail and the search from Google Desktop also checks attachments and again you can make an event from the email and add it to tasks via Gcal. Gapps are starting to work together well for me! Another bit that came very useful the other day was someone sent me an address in an email and in Gmail on the side it recognised it was an address and added 'show map' and worked with Gmaps. Dale Try adding an appointment in Google Calendar using Quick Add as 12-2 meeting at Buckingham Palace then go back into the appointment. :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Evolution and MS Exchange 2007
Oh dear, the project seems to be manned by Trekkies! See the release names. Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 27 July 2009 15:48 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Evolution and MS Exchange 2007 Alan Lord (News) wrote: You might want to look into OpenChange. It's still fairly early days but there is a working exchange proxy from what I can tell. I haven't tried this at all yet, but thought it worth mentioning in case you've not heard of it. http://www.openchange.org/ It's from the Samba crew who got access to all the protocol specs following the EU Commission's ruling last year. HTH Al That does look interesting, I like the idea that they are building a client for Exchange (or a way to connect to Exchange with existing clients) and also a replacement Exchange compatible server too. Guess that covers all bases (Outlook connecting to OpenChange and clients connecting to Exchange). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] card reader not recognised
Afternoon Norman I honestly think, from experience not from a technical standpoint, that any storage device attached through a hub is likely to perform intermittently at best. This is, as I have been told by those who know more than I, due to a combination of the hub not correctly filtering the datastreams, and an inadequacy in the USB 2.0 protocol. I have rarely managed to successfully attach storage devices other than directly to a PC mount ie not through a hub. Other devices like keyboards, mice, webcams etc seem to behave as expected. Perhaps, if sockets permit, try putting the card reader directly into one of your PC mounted sockets and run the keyboard and mouse through the hub. Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Norman Silverstone Sent: 22 July 2009 16:55 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] card reader not recognised snip Jul 22 14:20:46 digital-darkroom kernel: [ 5604.633232] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] READ CAPACITY failed Jul 22 14:20:46 digital-darkroom kernel: [ 5604.633235] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdc] Result: hostbyte=DID_ERROR driverbyte=DRIVER_OK,SUGGEST_OK to me suggests that you might want to run dosfsck on the card being used. Notice it's talking about sdc and not the card reader directly, that indicates it's talking about the card. Plug the thing in with the card in, wait until it mounts, then unmount it (click on the icon on the desktop and eject or in a terminal use sudo umount /dev/sdc) then in a terminal run sudo dosfsck /dev/sdc1 . Here is the reponse:- nor...@digital-darkroom:~$ sudo dosfsck /dev/sdc1 dosfsck 3.0.1, 23 Nov 2008, FAT32, LFN open /dev/sdc1:No such file or directory nor...@digital-darkroom:~$ If this does not give a response then it's some interaction between the driver for the card reader and the card reader, and without knowing the make/model of the card reader (a pastebin of the output from lsusb will tell us this) I don't think I can be of much more use. Sorry. Bus 001 Device 053: ID 058f:6366 Alcor Micro Corp. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub nor...@digital-darkroom:~$ I hope this helps. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Localisation was Archos 10 Netbook
A couple of thoughts that I'd be interested in peoples comments on. If Mark was to sally forth to the land of the French and bought this item, apart from the keyboard, which might be en Francais, to change the localisation would you have to do a fresh install? Secondly, on the same machine, not necessarily this one, can each unique user on a system have their own localisation? This is not as silly as it might at first seem - if you're partner is from a non English speaking country, wouldn't they feel more comfortable with a desktop in their own language? Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Mark Fraser Sent: 08 July 2009 10:10 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Archos 10 Netbook I see that the Archos 10 netbook is now available in the UK, unfortunately it won't be the 10 SKU version which comes with Ubuntu 9.04. Suppose I could always pop over to France and buy it. -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Localisation was Archos 10 Netbook
Ah, cheers Al. Didn't think it would be that easy - nice! Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 17 July 2009 11:27 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Localisation was Archos 10 Netbook 2009/7/17 Ian Pascoe softy.lofty@btinternet.com: If Mark was to sally forth to the land of the French and bought this item, apart from the keyboard, which might be en Francais, to change the localisation would you have to do a fresh install? Depends if the language packages for -en had been removed (probably have). You might need to logon once and re-install them (they get removed by the installer, or if they were clever and used the OEM installer, they might actually already be there. Secondly, on the same machine, not necessarily this one, can each unique user on a system have their own localisation? This is not as silly as it might at first seem - if you're partner is from a non English speaking country, wouldn't they feel more comfortable with a desktop in their own language? The logon screen (gdm) has a language option, so each user can logon in their own locale. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux in an Audio Environment
Chris Have a look see at a Linux Weekly News of about two weeks ago about the Low Latency issues that Rob mentions. It also refers to an article at a site that I can't remember at the moment written by Dave Phillips, I think, who is always looking at linux audio. Might give you some pointers. Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 17 July 2009 18:44 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Linux in an Audio Environment Chris Weaver wrote: Do you get satisfactory performance from Audacity? It always seems to crash at the critical moment! Seems to work okay for basic stuff that I do and I've found for simple recording, basic editing (cutting bits out) and exporting it seems to work fine. I haven't really tried it for anything more advanced (well I did try a bit of noise reduction which seemed to work okay). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Modem peer-to-peer
The other alternative to land based ADSL / Broadband is the 3G variety. That being said, remember that if she changes ISPs, she may also have to change Email addresses - not a problem if it's just close knit group that contacts her thusly. Personally, I'd go for the capped Broadband and make sure you/she reads through the small print for things like minimum contract period and renewal times. The last alternative, and I only mention as it is one, is to utilise a nextdoor neighbour's connection through wireless Oh, and dial up won't be disappearing totally, but will be hard to find, as there's still locations where Broadband is not available. I suppose she could dial into your network for connectivity, as long as her phone provider tariff provided her with free calls when she needed to connect remembering of course that this would tie up your own home line, unless you were a two line household! Cheers Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Andrew Oakley Sent: 16 May 2009 10:33 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Modem peer-to-peer As another posted noted, you cannot connect ADSL peer-to-peer. It requires [DSLAM | magic pixie dust] at the telephone exchange. David Restall - System Administrator wrote: My mother has an Ubuntu PC and her broadband contract has just expired. She uses the web very rarely (sends the odd email may surf occasionally) but doesn't really use broadband to it's full and, to be quite honest, If she's not permanently connected (ie. not on broadband), doesn't frequently connect and doesn't browse high-risk sites (eg. pr0n, warez, gaming, gambling, make-money-fast schemes, prescription medication) then she is in a very low-risk category for malware. Manual monthly updates burned to DVD should be fine. It's not ideal, and low-risk is not no-risk, but I'd turn automatic updates off, or switch them to notifications only. Might be an idea to take a backup, though, just in case. Then you can wipe and reinstall in the very unlikely event that a problem occurs. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe)
Hi Folks I think the correct acronym is LVD - it's the tool that can make multiple HDDs look like a single HDD on a machine. Anyhow, a quick question on how it works. If you set up an installation using this tool, can you remove one of the participating drives and use it on another machine with no problems? That is to say if you have 2 SATA drives and you want to physically move one drive to another machine, will it just connect and go, or do you have to do something with the tool first before removal to re-create a properly formatted drive? Cheers Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe)
Hi Al Ah-ha, everything becomes clearer with the right acronym! Thanks. However, still not too sure about things having read the documentation. Can someone confirm for me please that: - the disk / partition's metadata is left intact and correctly formatted so that a physical drive can be moved between machines without problems - presumeing the correct commands are issued to remove the drive from the virtual drive; and - when writing to the virtual disc, LVm won't split large files over multiple physical partitions / drives unless specifically told to do so? Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Alan Lord (News) Sent: 16 May 2009 16:25 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe) On 16/05/09 16:13, Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi Folks I think the correct acronym is LVD - it's the tool that can make multiple HDDs look like a single HDD on a machine. I think you mean LVM. Logical Volume Management. Google/Wikipedia are your friends. Al -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe)
Hi Neil that answers things nicely. From what you've said I think the watch phrase has got to be once a drive has been incorporated into a virtual system by LVM there it should stay. Any need to transfer data should be by either network or removeable media. This brings me to a further question, sorry! Can a LVM virtual drive be mounted by NFS? Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Neil Greenwood Sent: 16 May 2009 22:10 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] LVD (maybe) 2009/5/16 Ian Pascoe softy.lofty@btinternet.com: Hi Al Ah-ha, everything becomes clearer with the right acronym! Thanks. However, still not too sure about things having read the documentation. Can someone confirm for me please that: - the disk / partition's metadata is left intact and correctly formatted so that a physical drive can be moved between machines without problems - presumeing the correct commands are issued to remove the drive from the virtual drive; It's not without problems, but it can be done with a lot of CLI foo. IIRC, the main problem is if the 'new' machine also uses LVM and has the same VG names, it gets rather confused. If the new machine doesn't use LVM but has it available in the kernel, everything is much less complicated. and - when writing to the virtual disc, LVm won't split large files over multiple physical partitions / drives unless specifically told to do so? I don't think you can guarantee this. There are various levels in LVM (from memory): PVphysical volumes VG volume groups LVlogical volumes You create a filesystem on an LV, which has to be in a single VG but might be split over multiple PVs. So a large file in the LV might end up with bits written to different PVs (i.e. disk partitions). Ian HTH. Cofion/Regards, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bloomin' ATI and Linux....
Hi, two quick questions. Do you get the same degregation with any other distros you've tried? That is is it Ubuntu specific or distro wide? Secondly, have you tried Dell's own Ubuntu clone to see if that gives you the performance stability you're after? Dependant on your answers, it may then be worth while raising a bug Cheers Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 30 April 2009 21:14 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bloomin' ATI and Linux My Dell D600 Latitude laptop runs an ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] and I have always suffered with poor performance. Unfortunately I never get to the bottom of it. I really should try and get to a LUG meeting one day see if someone who knows what they are doing can improve it. But with 9.04 (well and others I have tried) I always get full compix effects, wobbly windows etc on the fresh install but it seems almost straight away to degrade and within the same day I seem to loose the ability to have any effects. Now (less than a week into a fresh clean install) I cannot enable any effects. Scrolling web pages can get very cumbersome. Just minimising windows can be a bit slow. I seem to be using the vesa driver. I tried the fglrx but it broke...so I will just leave it as it is for now. Jon Hi Jon, Just out of interest, have you tried adding the 'CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor' object to your panel? If not, add it and change the setting to 'performance'. One strange habit I've found that Ubuntu has is that it sets the power management setting on my laptop (perhaps all laptops?) to 'Powersave' by default restricting the CPU speed to 800Mhz. Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Server Power Management
Cheers Folks, Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 19 April 2009 19:08 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Server Power Management 2009/4/19 Ian Pascoe softy.lofty@btinternet.com: I'm thinking that a Krone job could be used to turn it off, but don't know which commands to use to ensure that it shuts down properly. I suspect that for turning on, I need to set something in the BIOS so that as soon as the power is turned on by the timer, the server comes up too. Yeah, the Wake On Lan option is what you need, or WoL. Although some BIOSs put it in odd places and call it strange things. I leave my viglen on 24x7 and when I want to wake other machines up at home (remotely or otherwise) I use the etherwake command:- sudo etherwake 00:1B:FC:XX:XX:XX It wakes up the other machine and a few mins later I can get to it via whatever protocol I need. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Server Power Management
Hi Folks Some thoughts please. I'm trying to find a way to automajically power up and down my home server as both my partner and I commute to work each day, and most weekend daytimes we're flitting in and out so wouldn't be using the home file and print server until the evenings. I have a timer on my router which works well for us, but the server is a bit of a headache. I don't want to leave it on whilst we're not there so am looking for a way to be able to turn it on and off at specified times. I'm thinking that a Krone job could be used to turn it off, but don't know which commands to use to ensure that it shuts down properly. I suspect that for turning on, I need to set something in the BIOS so that as soon as the power is turned on by the timer, the server comes up too. The server is currently an old P5 mini tower and draws quite a current, by comparison to the Viglen MPC-L for example, and it seems rather silly to have it on when there's no use for it. - I have no need at present to remotely access the server. It's currently running Ubuntu Server 8.10 with the SAMBA file / printer server. Cheers Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] BT Home Hub
Whoops, that IP address should have read 192.168.1.253 - that particular IP address seems to be the one associated specifically with the USB port. -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 15 April 2009 12:09 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] BT Home Hub Tony Travis wrote: Ian Pascoe wrote: [...] 2. What can be connected to the Home Hub USB ports? Most mass storage devices will work out of the box. Apparently the Home Hub has SAMBA built in to aid with this. IP address 192.168.0.253 Hello, Ian. Thanks for the Jungle tip! I'd no idea the HomeHub could have a disk attached to its USB port: I just assumed it was there to connect a PC or game console without an ethernet port. Have you or anyone else used a BT Home Hub as a Samba server? Bye, Tony. I'll give it a try later on. I presume the IP address is the one that the router is configured to rather than specifically 192.168.0.253. IIRC the Home Hub that I got came pre-configured to 192.168.1.254 although I changed this to fit in with my network. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] BT Home Hub
Hi Tony Like Rob it's something I'm going to try out over the weekend - I'll report back. Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Tony Travis Sent: 14 April 2009 22:53 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] BT Home Hub Ian Pascoe wrote: [...] 2. What can be connected to the Home Hub USB ports? Most mass storage devices will work out of the box. Apparently the Home Hub has SAMBA built in to aid with this. IP address 192.168.0.253 Hello, Ian. Thanks for the Jungle tip! I'd no idea the HomeHub could have a disk attached to its USB port: I just assumed it was there to connect a PC or game console without an ethernet port. Have you or anyone else used a BT Home Hub as a Samba server? Bye, Tony. -- Dr. A.J.Travis, University of Aberdeen, Rowett Institute of Nutrition and Health, Greenburn Road, Bucksburn, Aberdeen AB21 9SB, Scotland, UK tel +44(0)1224 712751, fax +44(0)1224 716687, http://www.rowett.ac.uk mailto:a.tra...@abdn.ac.uk, http://bioinformatics.rri.sari.ac.uk/~ajt -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] BT Home Hub
Hi all A little while ago someone around here, I hope, asked about the BT Home Hub. I've done a bit of research, as I use one myself, and thought I would share. 1. Can the Home Hub be used to connect to another ISP? Unless you're feeling really daring the answer is no. The other option is to re-burn the Firmware but this will take out all the Service Provider info, and you'll loose the updates that BT push out. 2. What can be connected to the Home Hub USB ports? Most mass storage devices will work out of the box. Apparently the Home Hub has SAMBA built in to aid with this. IP address 192.168.0.253 Note: From forums visited it looks like the preferred file format is FAT 32. Also, one unlucky punter had his USB HDD internal circuits blow due to the port apparently driving out too much power. 3. Can I provide unsecure and secure wi-fi at the same time? Yes, but the BT product seems to appear and disappear regularly - it involves a, unsurprisingly, a Firmware update which can take up to 2 weeks to be passed down. 4. Is it Linux compatible? Yep, although only the latest, Autumn 2008 updates, have fixed some of the Admin web page problems that were experienced by both Linux and Mac users. HTH Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Viglen 'Review' (Was: Re: downloading slow torrents energy consumption)
Suggest walking through linuxdevices.com for a while. A number of manufacturers produce base systems that are suitable for DVR / Set top boxes, so you could grab one of these as your base system and build it up as you want. Alternatively, there's also a number of MPC like spec machines that have 1 or 1.6 GHz Atom processors in them with no storage, HDD storage or SSD storage, and also as it's Linux Devices you can be sure that Linux'll work on them, although you may have to use one of the Ubuntu MID or Netbook derivatives. It's all down to how much you want to spend and how much hacking you think you might have to do. Happy hunting! Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Matt Jones Sent: 09 April 2009 11:54 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Viglen 'Review' (Was: Re: downloading slow torrents energy consumption) On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:44 AM, Jamie Bennett ja...@linuxuk.org wrote: Steve Garton wrote: Would a Viglen have enough grunt to run something like boxee (www.boxee.tv)? Boxee has rtorrent integrated, but it is mainly a media centre (a fork of xmbc I believe). I currently have it running on an old (~5 year old) PC in the living room (as a proof of concept to my wife), but would like to move to a cheap, small, quiet machine in future. Not sure. I don't use mine for anything stressful. It downloads torrents, streams them to my xbox360, holds a few screen programs (irssi e.t.c) and some other general programs. It's a dog to surf the internet on it so video playback would probably be out of the question. Steve Garton sheepeatingtaz.co.uk Regards, Jamie. -- http://www.linuxuk.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ Would something like the EEEtop be a better solution, or one of the plethora of atom based machines. The power consumption wouldn't be that much greater than the Viglen unit, with more power. You could also look at a low end core2 machine in a media case. It would be faster, but still fairly economic. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server
Mat and Steve Thanks for all the pointers - I've chickened out following that HDD bug and will take it to the next LUG so the experienced guys there can start it off for me. Cheers Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Matthew Daubney Sent: 05 April 2009 10:22 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server On Sun, 2009-04-05 at 07:37 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: Gents So I take it then that for a Server installation the recommendation is to go into the back of those cupboards shudder and find that CD drive. Oh well, it's chucking it down outside and I suppose that's a better use of time than surfing. Cheers Ian Ian, Just to reiterate, that is not necessary. The server cd itself won't work from a USB pendrive thingy. However, the netboot cd will. The netboot CD is a very small image containing more or less what is needed to boot the installer. Once this is on a USB disk (using a tool such as unetbootin, which is a fantastic tool. ) You can boot the viglen from the USB disk. Ensure that the machine has some kind of network connection though. Once the machine has got to the point where it has found your network card and discovered the interwebs, just before the partitioner, you will need to copy a module onto the viglen from a local network machine or a webserver, as the installer doesn't contain the module to use the _internal_ hard drive. The instructions can be found on the bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/318805 the important thing is to find out which version of the kernel the installer is running. Open another tty (ctrl+alt+f2) and type uname -r to find this. Once you know this you can find yourself a copy of the module from a machine running that kernel and copy it across to the viglen. I did this by putting it on my webserver and using wget, but I suspect there are other ways of doing this as well. Once this module is on carry onto the partition stage (or go back to just before it and go forward again) and it will detect your internal HDD successfully. It will later ask you what packages you want installed, just tell it you want the server install, openssh server and, in your case, samba, and all will be well :) Hope that helps! -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server
Gents So I take it then that for a Server installation the recommendation is to go into the back of those cupboards shudder and find that CD drive. Oh well, it's chucking it down outside and I suppose that's a better use of time than surfing. Cheers Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Stephen Hildrey Sent: 04 April 2009 09:41 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server Matthew Daubney wrote: Forgot to say, unetbootin is your friend, big time. It makes USB boot drives from cdimages. It's in the repos Seconding unetbootin. It also works on Windows, which has been a lifesaver on several occasions in the past! :) Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Server
Guys and Gals Some help please. Had planned this weekend to set up one of those nice little Viglen MPC's, curtesey of the now Series 2 UK Podcast, to act as a File Server connected to my home LAN with a couple of USB drives attached. This is my first attempt to get this type of setup working, and was going to go for the SAMBA File Server and Print Server options as I have both Ubuntu and Windows machines. My problem is that my trusty USB CD Drive has disappeared into the back of some cupboard or another and I can't find it. Can, and if I can how do I, run the Server Live CD from a USB drive - pen or HD? I know that the Desktop comes with the option to put a copy on this type of media , but can't find anything as to how to do it for the Server Live CD. Pointers please? Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Installing over Failed Upgrades
Folks Many moons ago one of my boxes failed to upgrade from 7.01 to 7.10 properly - the Ubuntu installation runs OK-ish, but with extremely unpredictable results; not really surprising. This box is a dual boot with XP, for which it is primarily used at the moment. I'd like to install 8.04 in the place of the cracked Ubuntu installation. What is the recommended way of doing this? Note that the cracked installation has no connectivity to the outside world so any changes needs to be done from CD; the terminal bombs out unexpectedly so cannot be relied on at present; network manager reports that there are no NICs installed - no wi-fi cards on this desktop. Thanks Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing over Failed Upgrades
Thanks guys. Before starting the process using the Live Ubuntu CD, is the installer intelligent enough to see the existing partitions and use them, or will I still have to define each one? Is it better to install direct from the CD, or launch the Live CD and install from there? The HD for Ubuntu installation is a seperate drive to the XP one. Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 15 February 2009 10:00 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing over Failed Upgrades 2009/2/15 Ian Pascoe softy.lofty@btinternet.com: What is the recommended way of doing this? Get a live cd, boot from it and install. If you install over the top of the existing install and choose _not_ to format then it will wipe all the programs/libs and config but will leave your /home folder alone, preserving your data. If you choose to format then it will of course wipe the entire partition, home included. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Firefox Officeanados
Ooo! Well spotted that man, take a gold star and become teachers pet for a day. Cheers Lee Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of LeeGroups Sent: 31 January 2009 21:03 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Firefox Officeanados E Use a local file server, like in the Advanced settings tab, last box, Use Own Server check box Lee Gents Thanks for the pointers - Foxmark would be the ideal if it could be persuaded to use either the local HD, or the local file server I will have. But I think for the moment I'll go with the safer answer of not available! Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Michael G Fletcher Sent: 31 January 2009 15:41 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Firefox Officeanados On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 7:10 AM, mac ammonius.grammati...@gmx.co.uk wrote: Stuart wrote: snip ...the Foxmarks add-on for Firefox lets you synchronize your bookmarks... They are all stored on a central server. The privacy issues with this are mentioned in the thread. Here's Eben Moglen on this general area: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cLQiTzs8PQ4 Mac There is also delicious.com - which means you could access your bookmarks on completely different machines as well. (although i'm not sure how good their privacy controls are) _ Michael Fletcher Visit my website here - http://www.mgfletcher.com/blog Interested in Linux? Then visit - http://www.ilovemylinux.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Firefox Officeanados
Gents Thanks for the pointers - Foxmark would be the ideal if it could be persuaded to use either the local HD, or the local file server I will have. But I think for the moment I'll go with the safer answer of not available! Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Michael G Fletcher Sent: 31 January 2009 15:41 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Firefox Officeanados On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 7:10 AM, mac ammonius.grammati...@gmx.co.uk wrote: Stuart wrote: snip ...the Foxmarks add-on for Firefox lets you synchronize your bookmarks... They are all stored on a central server. The privacy issues with this are mentioned in the thread. Here's Eben Moglen on this general area: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=cLQiTzs8PQ4 Mac There is also delicious.com - which means you could access your bookmarks on completely different machines as well. (although i'm not sure how good their privacy controls are) _ Michael Fletcher Visit my website here - http://www.mgfletcher.com/blog Interested in Linux? Then visit - http://www.ilovemylinux.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] OT: Firefox Officeanados
Gents Slightly off topic. On my PC I use Firefox when both in Ubuntu and Windows. Is it possible to utilise a FAT partition to act as a common storage place for bookmarks between the two variants of FF? And really pushing the boat out,also the browsing history which I know is managed by SQLite, but perhaps SQLite could be fooled in using this partition too? Know this is not truely a Ubuntu question, but wondered if anyone had the in depth knowledge to answer. Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout
Hi Rob I presume this is for your LTSP server? Have a trawl through the LTSP LTSP discuss mailing list over on SourceForge - I seem to remember that someone had a similar problem on a Ubuntu installation just before Xmas and a work around was provided. Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 30 January 2009 17:16 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clearing home directory at logout On 30/01/2009 16:51, Andrew Oakley wrote: Rob Beard wrote: I was wondering if anyone knew how to clear out the home directory on Ubuntu when a user logs out? See below. Public domain, do as you like. By default the script will assume the username visitor. You can pass a different username as a parameter if you wish. I use this to create a customised Gnome guest account, for when I lend my laptop to someone. I don't like Ubuntu 8.10's built-in guest account, since it presents the user with an entirely vanilla uncustomised environment. I prefer to customise the environment to make it more friendly to first-time users; for example, I have it load the Firefox browser straight away, since that's what 99% of visitors want to use. Andrew Oakley Head of Software Development Higher Education Statistics Agency (HESA) 95 Promenade, Cheltenham, Gloucestershire GL50 1HZ begin loadguest #!/bin/bash # Loadguest by Andrew Oakley www.aoakley.com public domain 2009-01-30 # # Resets the home directory back to a predetermined default # Requires saveguest to be run first # Ideal for a guest account # Default username is visitor instead of guest , since guest is used # for the built-in guest account from Ubuntu 8.10 # # Save this as /usr/local/bin/loadguest , chmod 755 # Add the following to /etc/gdm/PostLogin/Default: # if [[ $LOGNAME == visitor ]] # then # /usr/local/bin/loadguest # fi defaultusername=visitor username=$1 if [[ $username == ]] then username=$defaultusername fi if [[ -f /home/$username.tar.gz ]] then cd /home rm -rf $username/* tar xvfz /home/$username.tar.gz else echo /home/$username.tar.gz does not exist or is not a regular file fi end loadguest start saveguest #!/bin/bash # Saveguest by Andrew Oakley www.aoakley.com public domain 2009-01-30 # Saves a Gnome login session and indeed an entire home directory # MUST BE RUN AS ROOT eg. sudo saveguest # Requires loadguest # # Save this as /usr/local/sbin/saveguest , chmod 755 # Then log in as the user you wish to set up, THEN LOG OUT # Then run this as root eg. sudo saveguest defaultusername=visitor username=$1 if [[ $username == ]] then username=$defaultusername fi if [[ -d /home/$username ]] then cd /home mv -f $username.tar.gz $username-old.tar.gz tar cvfz $username.tar.gz $username --exclude=*/.thumbnails/* --exclude=*ca che* else echo /home/$username does not exist or is not a directory echo Usage: saveguest [username] echo Assumes username 'visitor' if no username supplied fi end saveguest Ahh thanks Andrew, it looks like this will do exactly what I want, not sure if it work with the PostSession, I couldn't seem to get anything in PostSession to work but it should at least work with GDM Watchdog. I'll post back if I can get it working. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Installing Edubuntu 8.04.1 on Ubuntu 8.04.2
Hi Rob As 8.04.2 is only a roll up of all the current patches and fixes that have come in since 8.04.1, I shouldn't think there'd be much of a problem. If it's not a live server then there's no harm in trying it out and letting us know what happens! Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 26 January 2009 23:07 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Installing Edubuntu 8.04.1 on Ubuntu 8.04.2 Hi folks, I'm in the process of installing an Edubuntu based LTSP server. Now I've downloaded and installed the Ubuntu 8.04.2 Alternative CD and told it to install an LTSP server however on trying to download Edubuntu 8.04 I find there is only 8.04.1 available (or 8.10). I just wondered if it was okay to install Edubuntu 8.04.1 on top of Ubuntu 8.04.2 or if I'll have to reinstall Ubuntu 8.04.1 instead, then install Edubuntu 8.04.1 and update over the internet? While I think about it too, this server has 4GB Ram but I was installing the 32-bit version with the idea of installing the server kernel with the extensions to support 4GB Ram, would this work okay on an LTSP server? Ta, Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] WorcsLUG
Hi Josh The Worcs LUG tended to be very heavily into their web stuff back when things were live - 2006ish. Their fortnightly meets used to be at a pub near Kidderminster I think. You've three other LUGs in close proximity. Gloucestershire LUG - great guys and good talks operates out of Message Labs premises on the outskirts of Gloucester. Hereford LUG - active, but meetings in a site that requires prior notification of attendance for Health and Safety. Malvern LUG - more of a Social gathering with some interesting discussions around everything - also known as Rent-a-Mob to GLUG and the Birmingham Perlmongers - I knows this as I'm one of them! Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Stuart Bird Sent: 19 January 2009 15:11 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] WorcsLUG Josh I attempted to sign up to Worc's LUG about three or four months ago, when their web site was up and running. I never received a reply, other than the server generated stuff, and have never seen any list activity from it. There are active LUG's within Worcestershire (Malvern) and close by (Gloucester) if you are at the right end of the county or are prepared to travel a bit. Both appear to be very welcoming although I have yet to find the time to attend any of the gatherings. It would be nice to see a county level LUG become active in Worcestershire if someone has the time to commit to it. I'm just not sure that with my current work commitments that I could do it justice, although the will is there so would be prepared to have a go at resurrecting it if there is enough interest from users in that area. Regards Stu -- From: Josh Holland jshholl...@googlemail.com To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Monday, 19 January, 2009 13:11:47 Subject: [ubuntu-uk] WorcsLUG Reading all this talk about LUGs makes me want to get involved in my own one (Worcestershire). However clicking on the link on http://lug.org.uk just redirects me to the lug.org.uk main page. Anyone else getting this problem or know anything about WorcsLUG? -- Josh Holland aka madmartian Find me on #ubuntu-uk My system: Dell Inspiron 1300 with fully up-to-date Intrepid Intel Celeron M 1.70 GHz, 512 MB -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support was Sad but true? From the Register
Well, it seems that an acorn has been planted. I agree that crawling needs to be successfully accomplished before any walking, and a proof of concept seems to be the order of the day. If this concept does get raised in the next UK meeting on IRC, can someone let me have the URL for the conversations afterwards as I personally don't IRC. If things go for a positive slant, I'll add something to the UK Ideas page. Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Matthew Daubney Sent: 17 January 2009 20:18 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support was Sad but true? From the Register A few comments inline On Sat, 2009-01-17 at 15:11 +, Ian Pascoe wrote: Johnathon, et al, snip About a year or two ago, discussions were held here about providing some sort of support package from the UK loco, but got bogged down for one reason or another. This idea of setting up a hosted VPN server could be a way to provide the remote support that we were finding difficult to arrange. snip I must have missed these discussions, but shall raise a point about the VPN thing at the end. Anyone fancy trying to set up such a project to see if it both works and is workable? I'd be interested in helping out a little bit where I could. Maybe set up a server at someones place for testing purposes, and if all works well there see if those nice people at Bitfolk, or whoever does the podcast mirrors, could loan us an account for a period of time whilst trials go on? Or maybe a bit of space on a Cononical server? If all works out, extend the server capabilities to host an iPBX and a CRM (Customer Relationship Management) tool like SugarCRM, I think, and an instant Ubuntu Support Service is formed. Now if you really wanted to get onto the bandwagon, get a duplicate setup in the States, Europe and elsewhere connected together and hey presto! something that no one else has but is cost effective and a real boon to the Community. Hmm, better stop there, beginning to go the realms of fantasy! It'd certainly make things a lot easier to do as there wouldn't be problems with security, bandwidth or such like. This last point of yours raises a point I wanted to raise (point.) If you offer these remote VPN support things, how can you both generate enough trust from the people you're helping, and enough trust in the volunteers helping out not to abuse their position? I can understand where your coming from with this, and I am fully in support of the idea, I just think this trust issue may need some looking at first. Another thing is, would you just go into peoples machines and fix it, or would you provide information on what you're doing to fix things, or prompt people to do things and watch, just giving a slight nudge when they go wrong? While just fixing things is what some people want, some level of education should be involved (I believe anyway) so that if it happens again they can fix it themselves. Just a few points to think about, otherwise I fully support the idea! -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support was Sad but true? From the Register
Rob Model B of course! Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 18 January 2009 11:11 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support was Sad but true? From the Register On 18/01/2009 10:19, Ian Pascoe wrote: Well, it seems that an acorn has been planted. Which one? Electron, BBC B? :-) Sorry couldn't resist. I agree that crawling needs to be successfully accomplished before any walking, and a proof of concept seems to be the order of the day. If this concept does get raised in the next UK meeting on IRC, can someone let me have the URL for the conversations afterwards as I personally don't IRC. If things go for a positive slant, I'll add something to the UK Ideas page. Ian Sounds good, I did see somewhere about some remote assistance idea on the Ubuntu Wiki, can't find it at the moment though. I do think though that if we can get something working it would be an ideal way of providing support. With regards to the question about if the end user sees what we're doing, I think that is a good idea, well if it's workable. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support was Sad but true? From the Register
OK, looks like we've got three different strands here: - on line support - user education - diagnostic apps And personally, the last one scares me as it's a major project in itself. - although there may be stuff out there that could be adapted like the distro that ships with an app that collects hardware data; darn, can't remember which one does it it's not Ubuntu though is it? I also believe that the on line support needs to be both a graphical one and a command line one - graphical to observe the user to see what they're doing etc like VNC. Actually, what do Cononical use for there own paid for remote support, if they have one? Be a lot easier to use infrastructure already in place than try and create our own Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Paul Sutton Sent: 18 January 2009 11:52 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support was Sad but true? From the Register Rob Beard wrote: On 18/01/2009 10:49, Paul Sutton wrote: While just fixing things is what some people want, some level of education should be involved (I believe anyway) so that if it happens again they can fix it themselves. Just a few points to think about, otherwise I fully support the idea! -Matt Daubney Yep I agree with that, help them help themselves. Maybe with feedback from newbies we could look at creating more screencasts too? I agree here, a few years a go I found myself fixing a friends computer and re-installing windows etc from the restore cd's I got him to the point quite easily where he could insert the start up floppy, follow the instructions and get back to a working system, on his own, so he relied far less on me to walk round, The only issue I can see with this is the potential for the user to loose data. I've found a few people have had screwed Windows PCs, usually they can at least retrieve their data onto a USB stick or external hard drive if they use Ubuntu. I tried this with someone else and he was not interested, in me actually teaching him things, I've had that too. So it depends on the individual and perhaps their attitudes. Personally if i am constantly fixing virus problems and recommend using a virus checker, which I download and install, if they can't be bothered to keep it maintained, then what chance have we got, but I would have to teach them how to keep it maintained, in the same way someone teaches me how to check the oil in a car (see below) Preventative maintenance is simple enough. You mean things like making sure they install security updates and possibly backing up important data? Rob Yes, so teach users how to back up their data, where too etc, flash drives are pretty cheap these days as are writeable cd' / dvd media. that should be put in the checklist, Back up your data, securly, and check its backed up properly, its all very well copying data to a dvd, but if something goes wrong, and you then go to access that dvd at a later date and can't your stuck, it takes a few mins only to mount it, and check the data is on there, perhaps once on the cd' copying back also requires you to alter the permissions sometimes so its no longer read only which on a dvd it would be, again something extra to add to a check list, as you need to consider, Screen shots also a good idea, Looking at the desktop training manual, is this provided in pdf with ubuntu, i can't find it anywhere obvious, it needs to be on the desktop, along with a viewer so it can be loaded up and read my new users. It is downloadable but users need to find it. Paul -- Paul Sutton www.zleap.net Support Open and ISO standard file formats e.g ISO 26300 odt http://www.oasis-open.org/home/index.php Next Linux User Group meet : Feb 7th : 3pm (TBC), Shoreline Cafe Paignton -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support was Sad but true? From the Register
Johnathon, et al, In your post from Thursday you mention you have OpenVPN installed to provide remote access etc. In Rob's case he doesn't appear against this but worried about connections to his own private network. Do you know if you can set up an OpenVPN server on a hosting site, no direct connection to home network, but then either SSH to the OpenVPN server and thence onto the client, or through some VNC equivilant? About a year or two ago, discussions were held here about providing some sort of support package from the UK loco, but got bogged down for one reason or another. This idea of setting up a hosted VPN server could be a way to provide the remote support that we were finding difficult to arrange. I briefly looked at OpenVPN quite some time ago for remote access to my brother's Windlows laptop as he was having lots of various problems - it went puff before I got any further with the idea. Anyone fancy trying to set up such a project to see if it both works and is workable? Maybe set up a server at someones place for testing purposes, and if all works well there see if those nice people at Bitfolk, or whoever does the podcast mirrors, could loan us an account for a period of time whilst trials go on? Or maybe a bit of space on a Cononical server? If all works out, extend the server capabilities to host an iPBX and a CRM (Customer Relationship Management) tool like SugarCRM, I think, and an instant Ubuntu Support Service is formed. Now if you really wanted to get onto the bandwagon, get a duplicate setup in the States, Europe and elsewhere connected together and hey presto! something that no one else has but is cost effective and a real boon to the Community. Hmm, better stop there, beginning to go the realms of fantasy! It'd certainly make things a lot easier to do as there wouldn't be problems with security, bandwidth or such like. Discuss! Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 16 January 2009 10:59 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Remote support was Sad but true? From the Register On 16/01/2009 01:25, Simon Wears wrote: My family run Windows XP. I'll have a look into that, thank you for the link! Setting it up wouldn't be too difficult, my mum gets how to use a computer and is fairly good at fixing them with simple things, this is more for the advanced stuff that explaining to her just makes her utterly confused. I recently got myself an iPhone, so I could attempt to use it as a 3G modem, possibly. Unfortunately, she isn't running Ubuntu yet, but eventually I'll get her to switch. I'm just waiting for Windows to kill itself (again) then I can put Ubuntu on it for a week, and she can decide if she wants to switch. You're welcome. I'd be interested to know if anyone has managed to remote into an Ubuntu box running on a Vodafone 3G mobile broadband link. I have a customer who is currently on Windows (not legit either by the looks of things) and I have said that they might be worth giving Ubuntu a try as their existing copy is screwed. I'm going to loan them a machine for a week so they can give it a try although it would be handy if I could connect in remotely. I'm just not sure what the options would be. I'm not keen on the idea of setting up OpenVPN so they connect into my network, I just wondered if Vodafone give out real IP addresses and allow certain ports through? If anyone has any other ideas (or a link to the OpenVPN method) that would be ideal. Ta, Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Setting up mailserver
Morning All This is somewhat uncharted terrotory for me, in fact I know that little on the subject I don't even know the correct questions to ask! However, let's hope this makes sense! If I wanted to set up a file / mail server at home, and be able to connect to it through the internet, if the ADSL connection is dynamic, how does the DNS server (I presume that's the only way of maintaining the link) know the correct IP address to link to after the ADSL connection has been dropped and comes up again with a new IP address? I presume that if the servre was physically moved to a different location, it wouldn't matter as long as whatever method satisfys the previous question, it would just re-connect itself and be off? This is something I've been thinking about doing for some time, and if anyone can point me to some resources that would get me started so that I can build a basic understanding up, and then start to be able to ask the right questions, I'd be grateful. A Happy New Year to One and All Ian Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Lucy Sent: 25 December 2008 18:12 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Setting up mailserver 2008/12/25 Matthew Wild mwi...@gmail.com: On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Josh Holland jshholl...@googlemail.com wrote: I just bought a VPS hosting with the intention of setting up a mail address for myself at j...@jrh.co.uk . AFAICT, this involves setting up a nameserver, which could also be run off the same VPS. Looking at the community docs, to run a name server I need to register a domain name for some extortionate price. Is there any way to bypass this, or am I on completely the wrong track? (btw it is a BitFolk bottom spec hosting running Hardy) Without a domain name other mail servers have no way of locating your VPS among all the other servers on the internet. jrh.co.uk, as with probably all short domains, is already registered (you can type in a console to check: whois jrh.co.uk). Yup, it's been registered by Commerce Internet Ltd. It doesn't appear to have DNS set up though, so maybe it's not being used and Josh could purchase it from its current owners? For what it's worth though, domains aren't that extortionately-priced, especially .co.uk's (usually £10 for 2 years). I use 123reg.co.uk, who charge £7.50 for 2 years for .uk domains and also provide DNS hosting. They provide email forwarding as well - I get stuff from my domains forwarded to my gmail account at the moment. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Setting up mailserver
Gents, thanks. Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Stephen Garton Sent: 28 December 2008 10:11 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Setting up mailserver 2008/12/28 Sean Miller s...@seanmiller.net: On Sun, Dec 28, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Ian Pascoe softy.lofty@btinternet.com wrote: If I wanted to set up a file / mail server at home, and be able to connect to it through the internet, if the ADSL connection is dynamic, how does the DNS server (I presume that's the only way of maintaining the link) know the correct IP address to link to after the ADSL connection has been dropped and comes up again with a new IP address? You can set up a dynamic dns service with various folks across the internet - what happens is that your server sends updates to the server to keep it informed as to what IP it is on. From memory it's a cron job or something similar, running every 5 minutes or so. See http://www.dyndns.com/services/dns/dyndns/ I presume that if the servre was physically moved to a different location, it wouldn't matter as long as whatever method satisfys the previous question, it would just re-connect itself and be off? Indeed. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ I use ddclient (http://ddclient.wiki.sourceforge.net/ but installed from the repositories) to update dyndns. Steve Garton http://www.sheepeatingtaz.co.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] creating a USB startup disk
Dave Sorry, this is not even a third of an answer, but I've read not so long ago something to do with a hidden directory that needs to exist on the USB stick / drive. I can't find the reference but maybe that'll point you in the right direction. Merry Xmas to all Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of David King Sent: 25 December 2008 14:10 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] creating a USB startup disk I am still having problems with the bootable USB flash drive I am trying to create. It still will not boot, it gives an error saying that it cannot find the linux kernel image. I compared the contents of the drive with the Ubuntu 8.10 CD and saw that the CD had more directories than the flash drive, so I copied those over to the flash drive. But it still does not boot, so still something must be missing. Attached is a list of directories and files on the flash drive David King David King wrote: I have created my live USB Ubuntu flash drive, which is certainly now bootable, so nothing wrong with the drive itself. But, it had an error when booting about not finding the linux kernel. I will have to investigate further when I have the time, but at least I know that the flash drive is bootable. But I do not see why the Ubuntu program to create a USB startup disk did not work in making the flash drive bootable, whereas the Install Live USB program which I used did make it bootable. I David King -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers
Gents Although I agree that the idea of PowerLine adapters is a great one and can be a boon may I put in a word of caution? As the majority of homes do not have any type of filtering on the mains that comes into the house, the PowerLine will end up broadcasting back into the local domestic mains feeds. Generally speaking this is not a problem as the signal degrades before it can either be tapped into or cause interference, but if you live in, let's say a communual block of flats, and someone else also uses PowerLine adapters, there is a fair chance that persons outside of your home may gain access to your network. Personal case in point - brother lived in a flat and regularly got interference coming through his mains and affecting his TV and most notably radio. He got so desperate in the end that he got mains filters and hey presto all became crystal clear again. He subsequently found out that his next door neighbour was using these adapters and with some co-operation he found out that the interference disappeared when the PowerLine adapters were powered off. So be careful out there! Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Tony Arnold Sent: 18 December 2008 14:17 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless N routers Sean, Sean Miller wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote: That's answered my question to Sean, but you seem to have to buy these things in pairs. Is that the case? No. But to start they're obviously better value in pairs!! Try this link... http://www.faculty-x.net/homeplugs%20at%20a%20glance.htm?gclid=CLPP9PahypcCF QKKMAodpneBRw Some options there :-) What a great site! Thanks. Regards, Tony. -- Tony Arnold,Tel: +44 (0) 161 275 6093 Head of IT Security,Fax: +44 (0) 870 136 1004 University of Manchester, Mob: +44 (0) 773 330 0039 Manchester M13 9PL. Email: tony.arn...@manchester.ac.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Greetings
Evening Graham Welcome to the list and no doubt as you've met the dynamic trio now, you're fully up to speed as to what to expect on the list. Enjoy, have fun and don't forget to occasionally contribute! Ian Ian -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 15 December 2008 21:54 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Greetings Hello all, Thought I should introduce myself since I'm new to the list. I'm a Developer working for Canonical. I'm part of the Launchpad Bug Tracker development team; at the moment my primary focus is integrating with upstream bug trackers. I'm also a photographer and occasionally make things up for fun. You can find me at http://grahambinns.com As for why I'm here... Well, I spent the last week at UDS with Popey, Daviey and Schwuk, amongst others, and I figured that I really should be more involved in the community, even if my local LUG has all of three people in it (The member of SchwukLUG pointed out that he won the tiniest LUG award). So here I am. Hi Graham - Nice to meet you :-) I'm Chris. www.justuber.com/blog - I also try and do photography now and again but mostly just snap pictures like an tourist without really thinking! Every so often I'll make an attempt at being artistic but mostly fail! Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
Gents An interesting diversion to the original topic. I keep a watch on http://linuxdevices.com and there's quite a few mini form factor Atom based stuff coming through that although primarily aimed at the embedded market, could be easily used to become a fairly green workstation; in fact some are so targetted. Now with Ubuntu also being ported across to the ARM architect, that could certainly open up even more interesting configurations for those with a tinkering whim. Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 02 December 2008 16:20 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice gav wrote: On Mon, Dec 01, 2008 at 04:46:54PM +, Rob Beard wrote: I'm considering an Atom Dual Core for my server (it's currently running an Athlon 1400) although I'm not sure what to do after reading this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-atom-efficiency,2069.html The Atom seems to work fine for DVD playback, if that helps you judge on the video side of things, I use an external USB DVD on the machine. I've no interest in BluRay yet so I can't tell you how it handles that. It's possible that a dual core Atom might be able to handle it, I doubt without a HD compatible video card that it would be up to the job. Sods law HD playback on the video card under Linux seems to be either non-existent or in the very early stages. Like everything though I don't doubt it'll happen eventually, not so sure about FLOSS Bluray playback though. From that review, it looks like the chipset it holding the Atom back, 4W for the processor but 22W for the chipset seems backwards. However that chipset is well supported under Linux, especially the hassle free, open driver 3D support. Yeah it's a shame, I presume it takes a while to develop a chipset, I guess Intel are probably working on addressing this. What I'd like though is to get hold of one of the new low power Athlons coupled with the low power AMD chipset which is already available (AFAIK the CPU's aren't readily available yet although the motherboards are in MicroATX form factor). Looks like these companies are finally starting to sit up and think about developing more energy efficient solutions anyway which has to be a good thing. When I finally get around to building a MythTV box I'm hoping to put some low power and low noise components in there (but possibly not an Atom unless it's up to playing 720p video). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
Hi all Somewhat OT, but I'm hoping someone here can help. My Desktop MB is on the way out, intermittent strange behaviour, and it being some 8 years old and well used, I'm not really that surprised. Now, as I hate wasting money I thought I'd get myself a new MB that would handle the current CPU, AND 1.6 GHz, and memory, but thought about going for a dual socket CPU board instead, and buy another CPU to boost performance. I realise that the make and clock speed of the CPU has to be the same, but does it have to be from the same family of CPU's? The PSU, at 350w, should be more than capable as the only other large power draw, the graphics system, is, by today's standards, fairly medioca, but it suits. I should add that I'm not going to attempt this upgrade, but am going to let the local computer shop that originally built it, do it, but I wanted to do some research first so that I didn't get blinded by the sales pitch, or tech talk. Cheers Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice
Matt / Lee thanks for the advice. I had wondered if the age of the system would be it's own stumbling block, and certainly from what you guys have said it probably is. Oh well, looks like the drop in VAT, and the Xmas sales have come just at the right time for me Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matt Jones Sent: 30 November 2008 20:48 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT CPU Advice I doubt that the current CPU will work in a multi CPU system, the multi processors were the MP versions. The best option would probably be to buy a new board and new processor. You would probably see a jump in performance by updating to either an Athlon X2 system, with socket AM2, or a celeron dual core or pentium dual core. You would have to get new ram, but DDR2 can be picked up for £10 for a gig stick. If you wanted a dual processor system, I have a precision 470 that I bought for £140 a couple of months ago, with 2*2.8 ghz xeons, and a gig of ram. This absolutely flies with 64 bit ubuntu. I wouldn't go for an older model than this, as the older models didn't have DDR2 of PCI express. Probably not the answer that you were looking for, but it may be a significant increase in performance and longegivity. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Ian Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Somewhat OT, but I'm hoping someone here can help. My Desktop MB is on the way out, intermittent strange behaviour, and it being some 8 years old and well used, I'm not really that surprised. Now, as I hate wasting money I thought I'd get myself a new MB that would handle the current CPU, AND 1.6 GHz, and memory, but thought about going for a dual socket CPU board instead, and buy another CPU to boost performance. I realise that the make and clock speed of the CPU has to be the same, but does it have to be from the same family of CPU's? The PSU, at 350w, should be more than capable as the only other large power draw, the graphics system, is, by today's standards, fairly medioca, but it suits. I should add that I'm not going to attempt this upgrade, but am going to let the local computer shop that originally built it, do it, but I wanted to do some research first so that I didn't get blinded by the sales pitch, or tech talk. Cheers Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster
I think we've actually got three different types of user to accommodate. Those who will upgrade pre release, those who will upgrade at the release date, and those who will upgrade a period of time into the release. The first type are normally done by those who have a bit of savvy in dealing with the breakages and bugs that appear as part of the pre release cycle - techies if you will. The release day people are those who like to be at the leading edge, but either don't have the time, or maybe the inclination to go into the apps to sort out problems, and have a moderate expectation of it just working from the release. The last group of upgraders are those who want to have the latest release, but don't want the hassles with the release day problems. It is this last group of people that I don't think are well catered for at the moment in new CD images - non LTS releases of course. Yes I'm aware that of course by upgradeing you will get all the packages that will address the release day bugs, but this download can be quite large and time consuming. Perhaps what should be suggested is a re-base of the CD image some 3 - 4 weeks into a cycle to mop up all the fixes and squashed bugs that have become apparent since release? This would then give us a better platform to give to whomever, and we'd be safer in the knowledge that it'd just work - well better than some of the experiences described here earlier. I haven't looked at Brainstorm yet to see if this is floating about there already. Would anyone else like to comment on the thought of such a post release update and the expectations as to what it should actually contain? Ian Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Sutton Sent: 08 November 2008 17:56 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster gav wrote: On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:41:08PM +, Bruce Beardall wrote: I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I can't really say I've had much recent experience beyond a cursory glance at KDE 4 but I think this leads to an interesting question: If we're to advocate Linux [and as far as this list is concerned, Ubuntu] should we be concentrating our advocacy on the LTS release? It's all too easy for anyone on this list to get carried away with the latest and greatest but the vast majority of those we're trying to introduce Linux to are used to the years between each Windows release. Should we be concentrating on introducing them to a release which is intended to be around for a number of years and expected to have a certain level of stability and accessibility? As the last couple of releases have had a bumpy start I've been putting LTS versions, currently 8.04.1 Ubuntu on new installs for people recently. I think I'll stick with the 8.04.1 Ubuntu disc for a while yet. This does ask the question of why the latest releases have had a bumpy start, is the new features cut off coming too late? is it not being tested on a wide enough variety of hardware? Or is it something else? Everything seems to be patched quite quickly and a .1 release seems to follow shortly that solves most of the release day problems. Should we be advising people to wait a week, or even a month before upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu? I thought this was a matter of course for most operating systems, wait a while, see if there any major issues then upgrade, of course if everyone did that we would not identify issues, perhaps also as advocates we should install out selves and be able to fix issues before giving copies away to users to just want it to work and not worry about fixing stuff that much. its a difficult one to call but it looks far better on us if we are told by a user of a problem and we know how to fix it quickly, rathar than having to explain why a simple thing like disc eject is not working properly. perhaps once a few issues are fixed the cd image (iso file) should be updated with these fixes, so 8.10.1 8.10.2 etc, each month, until 9.04 is released, this would sound more logical, as that way it would not just be fixes but updates too, and once installed it won't be taking as long to download the updates to fix issues, the software cd will never then be more than 1 or 2 months out of date, where as 8.10 in march will be about 5 months out of date and still carry know issues from when it was pressed. I would also guess that 8.10.5/6 would have certain bits in there that will make any transition to 9.04 much easier,. just my thoughts really. I will send off for some 8.10 cd. Paul Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] more issues with 8.10
Just to build upon Alan's note about adding yourself to an existing bug, in a recent Ubuntu news the Launchpad guys had introduced a new Me Too tab to enable developers to gauge the quantity of users affected, without having to wade through lots of me too type notes. Obviously if you wish to add further detail to an existing bug, you would still need to follow the normal process. To be honest, I'm going to be sitting with the Heron for a little while yet as from Mark Shuttleworth's original description of where he wanted Ubuntu to go, lots of new things were going to be added to this release, especially as it's also a catch up release after the LTS Heron, so I was kinda expecting a number of naughty things happening from initial release! Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 02 November 2008 12:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] more issues with 8.10 2008/11/2 David Futcher [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Actually, this bug is already well known by the developers and is documented in the Intrepid Release Notes [1]. I have no idea why Ah even better. The original poster can subscribe to that bug and thus get notified of any workarounds (other than those already published). Personally i can think of another way to get the CD out, but that would require a reboot. the developers decided to go ahead with release with this fairly critical bug (If you cant get a CD out of a drive, you aren't going to stick with an OS for long (this thread is a good example of that). Well from reading the link you posted it _is_ possible to get the CD out of the drive using the workaround published. I'm quite staggered that you think an entire OS release should be delayed for this! I personally use my CDROM drive once in a blue moon. I know each person has their own experience/issues with the system and has their own perception of the importance of those issues. But really, this one can't possibly be classed as critical by any sensible measure. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] intro
Hi Paul Welcome! Unfortunately, I think that most of the rest of the list is currently suffering from sore heads due to the Ibex release party. But you're welcome to our throng. Cheers Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Sutton Sent: 01 November 2008 17:54 To: ubunty uk mailing list Subject: [ubuntu-uk] intro Hi I am paul, from Paignton, South Devon and decided to join the list so I could help promote Linux and other OSS better by being able to hopefully be part of a wider more co-ordinated efforts, rather than trying to do this on my own. While I currently use debian as my main distro i have a 2nd PC that i have installed ubuntu 8.04 on, and have downloaded the 8.10 and booted this up as a live cd to have a look at, from what I have seen it looks very nice I have also designed some ubuntu posters which are at www.ubuntu.com under downloads then in a ubuntu folder, these are free to use, so feel free to download and print off, and more importantly perhaps improve on, i have used graphics from the ubuntu website to help me design the posters as the site has screen shots which helped me illistrate what ubuntu looks like. Look forward to taking part in local events, and local advocacy Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] SolarNetOne solar-powered LTSP installation
Hi Jake Nope, latency isn't your problem nowadays as a number of MESH projects are broadcasting this distance - your problem is the bandwidth that's actually useable - ie the further you get away from the originating base station, the less bandwidth you get. Rather like travelling around using your mobile phone. As an example, and apologies as this is a really weak memory retrival operation, there were a couple of guys who set up a cellphone base station using Astericx at the Black something or other event in the States. With an 8w transmitter they managed to get up to 2 miles without any problem. Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jake Bunce Sent: 29 October 2008 22:41 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] SolarNetOne solar-powered LTSP installation Looks good, but I imagine the network latency would be too high to run any VoIP services from 2 miles over an unlicenced radio frequency Jake 2008/10/29 Ian Pascoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unashamedly cribbed from another list - very interesting application of LTSP and Ubuntu! Ian http://gnuveau.net/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi From the overview: The SolarNetOne ICT terminal network was conceived and designed to solve the challenging problem of how to provide Internet access and services to rural and developing areas where there is no existing power or communications infrastructure. This problem is solved by combining several powerful technologies: Photovoltaic solar electrical systems, GNU/Linux, 802.11a/b/g packet radio, commonly known as wifi, Power over Ethernet, and the MIT X11 windowing system. It has been described as an ISP in a box, for reasons detailed below. SERVER The SolarNetOne system incorporates a powerful server in a small form factor that acts as the core of the communications system. It provides mid to long range wireless internet coverage up to a 2 mile radius through its integrated high power 802.11a/b/g wireless access point and high gain omni-directional antenna. This configuration can be used to provide full internet access, including Voice over IP telephone service, to the immediate coverage area, which can be extended to longer ranges through the use of wireless repeater devices. Also integrated into the server is the capability for full end-to-end internet communications by means of its HTTP (web), SMTP (email), DNS (domain name system), and SSH (secure shell) server software. Additional internet services can easily be added to the network by use of the APT (advanced package tool) repositories of GNU/Linux software available worldwide. This is an integral part of the underlying Ubuntu operating system. APT automates the often difficult task of installing and updating software, making system administration tasks of installation and maintenance easy, particularly when critical updates effecting network security are concerned. The server itself can also be used as a network console for administration or day-to-day operator use through its integrated monitor, keyboard, and mouse. TERMINALS Another key feature of the SolarNetOne system is its network attached terminals, which provide traditional desktop services one would normally associate with using a computer, with several powerful, attractive, and popular desktop environments to choose from. It comes pre-installed with web browsing, email, office, multimedia, software development and web development applications, as well as a choice of over 15000 other applications to suit most any computing need that are free for download through the APT system. The terminals themselves connect to the system's Ethernet hub, which provides both network connection and electrical power to the terminals and their LCD monitors over a single CAT6 Ethernet wire. This eliminates wire clutter and the need for extra power wiring costs. They operate as thin clients with the majority of the workload being handled by the server's higher capacity processors, enabling superior performance per over than a standalone PC architecture and significantly lower maintenance workload than a similar solution of several personal computers. Also available is full sound support through integrated audio jacks, 104 key keyboard, laser scroll mouse and the ability to plug USB memory sticks into the terminals, allowing users to take their data with them round out the terminal's ability to provide a complete and rich user experience. SolarNetOne comes standard with 5 terminals, and can expand to as many as 48 terminals per server node. As an option in areas where allowed by law, an ATA phone adapter provides Voice over IP telephone service through a standard telephone handset. POWER SYSTEM The entire SolarNetOne system is powered by 12VDC electrical current supplied through the system's elegant solar power generation and storage subsystem. Using an array of photovoltaic solar panels
[ubuntu-uk] SolarNetOne solar-powered LTSP installation
Unashamedly cribbed from another list - very interesting application of LTSP and Ubuntu! Ian http://gnuveau.net/cgi-bin/wiki.cgi From the overview: The SolarNetOne ICT terminal network was conceived and designed to solve the challenging problem of how to provide Internet access and services to rural and developing areas where there is no existing power or communications infrastructure. This problem is solved by combining several powerful technologies: Photovoltaic solar electrical systems, GNU/Linux, 802.11a/b/g packet radio, commonly known as “wifi,” Power over Ethernet, and the MIT X11 windowing system. It has been described as an “ISP in a box,” for reasons detailed below. SERVER The SolarNetOne system incorporates a powerful server in a small form factor that acts as the core of the communications system. It provides mid to long range wireless internet coverage up to a 2 mile radius through its integrated high power 802.11a/b/g wireless access point and high gain omni-directional antenna. This configuration can be used to provide full internet access, including Voice over IP telephone service, to the immediate coverage area, which can be extended to longer ranges through the use of wireless repeater devices. Also integrated into the server is the capability for full end-to-end internet communications by means of its HTTP (web), SMTP (email), DNS (domain name system), and SSH (secure shell) server software. Additional internet services can easily be added to the network by use of the APT (advanced package tool) repositories of GNU/Linux software available worldwide. This is an integral part of the underlying Ubuntu operating system. APT automates the often difficult task of installing and updating software, making system administration tasks of installation and maintenance easy, particularly when critical updates effecting network security are concerned. The server itself can also be used as a network console for administration or day-to-day operator use through its integrated monitor, keyboard, and mouse. TERMINALS Another key feature of the SolarNetOne system is its network attached terminals, which provide traditional desktop services one would normally associate with using a computer, with several powerful, attractive, and popular desktop environments to choose from. It comes pre-installed with web browsing, email, office, multimedia, software development and web development applications, as well as a choice of over 15000 other applications to suit most any computing need that are free for download through the APT system. The terminals themselves connect to the system’s Ethernet hub, which provides both network connection and electrical power to the terminals and their LCD monitors over a single CAT6 Ethernet wire. This eliminates wire clutter and the need for extra power wiring costs. They operate as “thin clients” with the majority of the workload being handled by the server’s higher capacity processors, enabling superior performance per over than a standalone PC architecture and significantly lower maintenance workload than a similar solution of several personal computers. Also available is full sound support through integrated audio jacks, 104 key keyboard, laser scroll mouse and the ability to plug USB memory sticks into the terminals, allowing users to take their data with them round out the terminal’s ability to provide a complete and rich user experience. SolarNetOne comes standard with 5 terminals, and can expand to as many as 48 terminals per server node. As an option in areas where allowed by law, an ATA phone adapter provides Voice over IP telephone service through a standard telephone handset. POWER SYSTEM The entire SolarNetOne system is powered by 12VDC electrical current supplied through the system’s elegant solar power generation and storage subsystem. Using an array of photovoltaic solar panels, an advanced charge controller, ample battery storage, and a design focusing on safety, the power subsystem provides for all of the electrical needs associated with 24/7 server operation and 8 hours per day of terminal access. Integrated circuit breakers on every segment of the power sub-system provide the safest possible implementation. In addition to its excellent performance, the use of solar power means no fuel costs, no polluting emissions, and a long lifespan of up to 20 years of use at listed power ratings with proper maintenance. USER APPLICATIONS The SolarNetOne system comes pre-installed with a wide variety of user applications. For the user, these include: Mozilla Firefox suite for web browsing and email Evolution for email and calendering OpenOffice? for office applications GIMP and InkScape? for bitmap and vector graphics, respectively Xmms, Xine, and Mplayer for multimedia playback X-chat and Gaim for chat/instant messaging Xaos fractal explorer Bluefish html editor and, a wide variety
[ubuntu-uk] Encrypted Directories
Evening all A quick question on how the forthcoming encryption will work. Can it be set up to allow root to access the encrypted files as well as the legitimate owner? Ian Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardware failure?
Hi Seif Before going down the new PSU route, do you have any power conditioners on the mains supply to your box? If not, that would certainly be the next purchase I'd recommend, followed by the PSU afterwards. To my inexperienced eyes, if a full power off and break with mains is required to reset things, it certainly does point towards the PSU, but it could still be spikes coming in over the mains and causing the PSU to wobble. In which case, even with a new PSU you'd still be liable to wobbles, but maybe not as dramatic as you get currently. Cheers Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 01 October 2008 11:53 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hardware failure? Seif Attar wrote: me again, it crashed, so it's not the graphics card, and the noapic didn't fix it, the last crash happened while I was installing stuff with synaptic, nothing in the logs. After the crash I pressed the reset button, and then it froze while the grub menu was showing, restarted, it froze after I selected an entry from the grub and the text Starting Up was showing and nothing happened, in the past I had to completely turn off the pc and unplug it from electricity in order to have it boot normally again (this weird freeze on reboot after crash doesn't always happen, could be that I only notice it when I am working on the machine when the crash occurs, maybe when it happens while I am away, whatever overheated has cooled down, or whatever capacitor had gone fubar had released it's electricity? cpu temp was 55c after the crash), so yesterday I removed the first RAM, tried to boot it, it froze again, then I removed the second ram and it booted normally, so I am now testing it with only 1 piece of ram, if it still crashes, I'll try the PSU, but my friend keeps forgetting to bring it! maybe tomorrow. Another thing I noticed yesterday, is that after I force the computer to shutdown (holding the power button), the num lock indicator on my keyboard is still on, even though the computer is shutdown. Checked the bios setting to make sure I haven't enabled key-press power on, and it's not enabled. Sorry for posting so much about this, I realise this is not Ubuntu related any more (probably and hopefully), but I have no where to go, and I imagine that if I take it to a hardware specialist that he will want an OS that he is more comfortable with. Peace, Seif A. I really do feel for you. It's one of those annoying problems especially when you don't have compatible hardware kicking around. I've had two Socket 754 motherboards die on me through power surges whereas the CPU survived. Usually it's been a case of buying a new motherboard and hoping that it works as no one I knew had a compatible board and CPU. Sods law one of the companies I do contract IT support for now has a stack of machines with Socket 754 boards and now I'm on a Socket 775 Pentium Dual Core and Socket AM2 Phenom (again, no compatible boards although touch wood things are working okay). Just a thought, have you tried getting in touch with the person/company you got the machine from? If you ask me, if you bought it new you should have a warranty on the machine even if it was built by a small system builder. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Viglen MPC-L Podcast Offer
Folks Thought I'd miss the end of the above offer, which was due to expire yesterday. However, phoned up today and ordered my discounted MPC-L to be told as well that the offer has been extended. Good work U-UK podcasters for negoiating this offer! So, if you've diddled and daddled over whether or not to go for one, two or more, you still can. Hangs head Unfortunately, I was so chuffed at getting my order through I forgot to ask how long the offre has been extended by - sorry! Cheers Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] heads up - UK schools frameworks accepted
I wonder if this in any way ties in with the PM's announcement about giving poor children eithre laptops or Broadband access? Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of alan c Sent: 23 September 2008 18:52 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] heads up - UK schools frameworks accepted Rob Beard wrote: alan c wrote: Open Source makes historic UK breakthrough http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2008/09/22/open-source-makes-his toric-uk to date: Sirius, Novell more to come I believe I was involved with a SFD event on Saturday in Torbay. A couple of school technicians turned up to the event. In discussion with them they mentioned that they'd love to use Open Source software but part of the problem was that some of the educational applications weren't supported by Linux (mainly Windows based stuff) and that a real barrier to change was the teachers who would get in a flap when they used something different (I got the impression that some teachers even the younger teachers haven't got very good IT skills). If you ask me, I think there should be a big push to some of the developers of educational software. For instance, Granny's Garden (http://www.4mation.co.uk/cat/granny.html) which was around in the days of the Beeb has a Windows and Mac version but no Linux version. I did suggest looking into LTSP with a couple of beefy servers and maybe for Windows compatibility a Windows 2003/2008 Terminal Server (surely a few Windows 2003/2008 Terminal Server cal's and a couple of servers would be cheaper than a load of PCs running Vista). I think the most amusing thing that came out of it though in terms of wasting money was what one of the other guys in the LUG told me. A friend of his went to look at a local secondary school which his daughter was moving to. He said that the school had a suite of Intel based iMacs (and not the cheap ones either!) and guess what they were running nope, not OS X but Windows XP instead! (Why anyone would want to buy an £800 iMac to run XP when something like a £300 Dell desktop would do the same. Sounds to me like that particular school was putting style over cost. maybe there will be a linux os variant called 'Credit Crunch'! Well done for the SFD in Torbay! We need a few more in UK! ( I was in the Bracknell SFD event) -- alan cocks Kubuntu user#10391 Linux user #360648 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Monitors
Gents Thanks - I'll do some research on those 3 brands and see's where it gets me. Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Kissel Sent: 17 September 2008 18:22 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Monitors Thanks for the pointers - any thoughts on Viewsonix or LG (I think it was) monitors? I think well of my Viewsonic 201B. 160x1200, 20.1 inch After of 4 years of daily use, the only fault is one pixel stuck on Red. BTY, I use to have my task bar at the top. It's now on the bottom and auto-hides. It took about 4 months before the shadow of the task bar faded from the top of the screen. One last think, todays 201 is less that 50% the price of my original. -- People choose Microsoft Windows for their PC in the same manner that the citizens of Soviet Russia elected the General Secretary of the Communist Party during the cold war. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Monitors
Gents Thanks for the pointers - any thoughts on Viewsonix or LG (I think it was) monitors? Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Douglas Sent: 16 September 2008 11:02 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OT: Monitors On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 09:17, Adam Bagnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi Folks Being at the leading edge of the rear of the crowd, I'm starting to look at chaging out my trusty CRT monitor to one of those new fangled LCD thingys! I don't mind doing the research, but would appreciate some pointers to what people consider reliable and trustworthy makes, as it's been a number of years since I have had to look at the monitor market. My only constraints are that it's = 17, not wide screen, and has good contrast ratios. Help appreciated Thanks Ian Finding a 19 non-widescreen shouldn't be a problem but from my (quick) search it gets considerably harder to find a non-widescreen that's larger. I'd recommend this Samsung model http://www.ebuyer.com/product/145478 as it's 19, non-widescreen and has a good contrast ratio. It's also a well known brand, but if you want to save some pennies I've had no trouble with cheap brands (bought digimate, yuraku and cibox monitors for myself and friends) YMMV. Adam -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ This one has an 800:1 contrast ratio, only a small step up price wise, http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Displays/Monitors/TFT+19/19%22+Fujitsu+Siemen s+Scenicview+TFT+Monitor+?productId=30900 Aria have some other larger displays that would be suitable. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Company No. 6135915 Registered in England and Wales -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] OT: Monitors
Hi Folks Being at the leading edge of the rear of the crowd, I'm starting to look at chaging out my trusty CRT monitor to one of those new fangled LCD thingys! I don't mind doing the research, but would appreciate some pointers to what people consider reliable and trustworthy makes, as it's been a number of years since I have had to look at the monitor market. My only constraints are that it's = 17, not wide screen, and has good contrast ratios. Help appreciated Thanks Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Open Office Base
Folks Has anyone experience of using OO's Base to read/write MS Access databases? And conversely will MS Office work happily with databases created by Base? I've googled but get both yes it does and no it doesn't responses - I'd like to try and get some reliable opinions before I settle down and try it for myself.. Cheers Cheers Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Server OS Suggestion
Chris From other mailing lists people have been having strange problems with the latest release of SentOs - nothing consistant but may be worth looking at before taking the plunge. Have you thought about how the servers will be administered/backed up? Are those programs in the Ubuntu repos? If you're looking for reliability and stability, what about going back to source distros for both your choices ie Debion or REl? Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 11 August 2008 21:34 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Server OS Suggestion Hi people, I've been wrestling with this question for a while now, and although product suggestion is probably going to be skewed here, I'm really interested in what you have to say. I need to choose a server operating system to run LAMP intranet web services with little maintenance and at high reliability. This system will be installed in multiple locations, so the last thing I want to be doing is a shed load of ongoing administration, or dealing with unnecessary problems. I've pretty much narrowed the selection down to CentOS 5 and Ubuntu Hardy LTS. If anyone has any suggestions, pros or cons for either systems I'd love to hear them. Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] USB Network Cables
G'day all Scenario. I'm going to have to stay on and off for a number of weeks at my partners house whilst doing some on site work nearby. Her current setup is an old desktop connected via an USB ADSL modem to the internet - it doesn't have a working ethernet card and she doesn't want to put one in as it's too fragile - the machine not her I hasten to add. And as we'll both need to be on the internet at the same time, networking is called for. So doing some research I found that there are USB cables about that will let you connect a number of PCs together in a star type network - the only problem is that they all seem to be for windblows only mainly because of the supporting device drivers and apps I guess. Does anyone know of any Linux and windblows compatible software that can successfully drive such an installation, or will I be limited to my own windblows installation? It doesn't matter which machine has the internet connection. Wireless is not an option as this machine's in built card is defunct. Cheers Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Network Cables
Andy Could you point me in the direction of the open source stuff, presumeing it's not already in Ubuntu? Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Ball Sent: 07 August 2008 20:13 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB Network Cables Hello Gav, GF A pair of USB wireless dongles or a USB to Ethernet adaptor for the Windows machine maybe? I was going to suggest a PLIP cable, but then I remembered that Microsoft Windows doesn't support PLIP. There are USB PC-to-PC cables with open source drivers, but I don't know whether Windows treats those as a network interface, which should increase the odds of Linux talking to the Windows box. A FireWire cable is another option, if both machines have the appropriate port. - Andy Ball. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] openstreetmap.org was What's happened to the Podcast?
Folks Having a techy problem dealing with the site at the moment, so can someone answer me a quick query? From the interview, they want people to upload GPS tracks, and although they'd prefer you to identify the missing routes you travelled on, they really just want tracks at the moment - is that the right intturpretation? Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Levin Sent: 05 August 2008 13:09 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] What's happened to the Podcast? Alan Pope wrote: On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 06:49 +0100, Sean Miller wrote: Podcast activity has gone all quiet - is it on summer holiday or something? As if by magic:- http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2008/07/31/s01e11-blowin-in-the-wind/ Got to say, that was a really good listen. Open street map, *two* low cost computers (and animals in the background) - what more could I want? -- John Levin http://www.technolalia.org/blog/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Opinions for a mobile phone in the Ubuntu community
Tim What's the phone storage and memory size as bought? Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim Dobson Sent: 05 August 2008 13:38 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Opinions for a mobile phone in the Ubuntu community Javad Ayaz wrote: Hi, Coming to the end of my contract, Im just wondering what Ubuntu community uses for its mobile needs, in relation with ubuntu ? i.e Sync, contacts, rss! Neo Freerunner! www.openmoko.com www.truebox.co.uk Failing that get a 3310 and be done with it :P /me runs -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Opinions for a mobile phone in the Ubuntu community
Cheers Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Bannister Sent: 05 August 2008 20:35 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Opinions for a mobile phone in the Ubuntu community On 05/08/08 19:53, Ian Pascoe wrote: Tim What's the phone storage and memory size as bought? Ian Clinking the big green banner on the main pages leads to: http://www.openmoko.com/product.html Which says: * Memory o 128MB SDRAM o 256MB NAND Flash o microSD Slot Which I think answer your question. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Asterisk friendly VoIP providers in UK
Hi Rob Not sure if you're looking for this, but the folks at www.locustworld.com are MESH networking specialists and have recently started to ship Asterisk as standard - they also operate their own PSTN Gateway. No idea on costs etc, but it's all Open Source stuff from what I can see. They're also open to silly techy queries like is it possible to set the number of simultaneous log ons to 2 whilst a mobile source moves from one AP to another. Not sure about the hardware side though - ie PRI / BRI cards if you want direct PSTN access on site. BTW from a professional viewpoint I would always strongly recommend haveing at least one analogue PSTN connection to the PBX for use with 999 calls as it enables the blue light services to identify the actual location where you are as opposed to what the person mumbles over the phone which depending the nature of the emergency could be totally duff. Cheers Ian Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 22 July 2008 18:18 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Asterisk friendly VoIP providers in UK Hi folks, I'm looking at building myself an Asterisk box so I can learn more on how it works and also help provide a cheaper phone solution to one of my clients (it's kind of a favour I'm doing them as part of the service contract I am providing them). Now traditionally I've used Vonage with their pre-configured boxes (in fact I'm going to get myself another Vonage box in the next couple of days). I just wondered though if anyone could recommend a VoIP provider (is it a SIP provider?) that supports Asterisk, doesn't have a minimum monthly charge or super expensive call charges? Ta, Rob I'm using sipgate for my incoming sip trunk and haven't had any problems. DTFM can be tricky but once you get it setup it works fine. If you have any troubles, please feel free to get in touch off list and I'll send you some example configuration etc... Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] What would you like in a book..
Evening Alan Books I'd like to see either in dead tree or eBook formats: 1. A Windows User Guide to the Desktop - the MS way versus the vanilla Ubuntu way leading onto how to customise in easy non command line steps to make it look and feel like Windows. A subject tackled many times here, but there's a market for it IMO. 2. Ubuntu Guide To - where to get FF Plug Ins and what they do for instance, some of the Forum tutorials for novices to geeks on vanilla installations and most common alternatives 3. Home Networking the Ubuntu Way - all the things like Mac has recently touched on in his postings includeing a bit of back ground techy stuff 4. Library of Ubuntu - A hard copy description of everything in the repos includeing couple of paragraphs as to what it does, where to get it, and how to get it., and it's alternatives 5. The Family Ubuntu - top level stuff on Ubuntu and it's derivatives includeing basic where to get them from, what they do, how they differ to the others, and what you would use them for And more aimed at the glossy brochure type of thingy A. Case Studies in PLAIN non marketing / sales / management speak B. Techy brochure on what the various flavours of Ubuntu will run on, minimum requirements, and drivers known to work well. C. An Easy Guide to dealing with a problem - ie how to work out if you have a bug, where to go to and how to find out if anyone else has the bug, what to do if it's not an app in the Ubuntu repos etc Mind you, looking back on this list quite a few items are covered in some of the existing books out there, but I'm a fanicaty so and so, and I like my books in a certain style - card covered, monochrome text with relevant screen shots / pictures, and an index that actually gets you to where you're looking for info as well as a Glossary that is readable and understandable, treats you as an English speaker and not just American, and above all else, it's got to be CONSISTENT in it's approach throughout. Dismounts hobby horse Oh, and from a purely selfish point of view, a CD or link to a download so that I can load the book onto my PC for future reference without the need to lug those darn heavy books around. Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 21 July 2008 16:27 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [ubuntu-uk] What would you like in a book.. Whilst I appreciate that not everyone likes books in dead-tree form, some do, so let's focus this on that group of people who do. I've been wondering if there's a set of Ubuntu related topics that are not covered, or not covered well in the current set of books available. What would you like out of an Ubuntu book? Would you like to see tutorials, how-tos and guides for specific tasks, which would form a reference? Would you prefer a book that you could read cover to cover, to go from zero to hero? What do you think _others_ might like out of an Ubuntu book? What topic do you think would be appropriate? What do you think would not be appropriate? Answers welcome! Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] News for the podcast
How's about something surrounding FF 3s release and plug in migration? Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mac Sent: 11 July 2008 17:27 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] News for the podcast David Futcher wrote: 2008/7/10 Johnathon Tinsley [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alan Pope wrote: | Hi all, | | We'll be recording episode 10 of the Ubuntu UK Podcast shortly. Have any | of you seen any Ubuntu/Linux/FLOSS related news recently that we might | want to include or talk about? Maybe a easily-understandable version of what the DNS flaw was, and how it has been fixed... Johnathon +1 on this. I still dont have a clue what happened. Would be very useful listening! Dan Kaminsky isn't saying - yet: http://www.doxpara.com/ El Reg thinks it's probably a variant of a known vulnerability: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/09/dns_bug_student_discovery/ though Dan Kaminsky and commentators suggest Dan's discovery is the ease with which the DNS server can be hijacked (one described it as 'point and click' simplicity). So, while it would be good to hear an exposition on the podcast, Al can be forgiven for not having much source material! HTH Mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] OT: Home Automation
Evening all I seem to recall from previous postings that we have a couple of home automation peeps lurking on the list. I've been presented with a working temperature sensor that uses RS-485 standard, together with a USB convertor. The problem is that it came with no software to grab hold of / display the data. So two questions. 1. Does anyone know of an open source app, either windows or linux that will be able to grab hold of this data and maybe display it too? and/or 2. Is anyone aware of a library that can get this data - I am presumeing that the standard USB library won't work by itself. But as I'm only just getting to grips with this, I could in fact be barking up the wrong tree! TIA Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using bzr, was: Wanted: Podcast transcribers
Al et all Bit late on the band wagon but count me in, with the normal time caveats. I suggest, apologies if already suggested, in splitting the podcast not into equal chunks but into the more logical articles, and where an article is long - say the interview with Jono, or difficult due to language barriers for the interviewee, the article is split up itself. I think that the biggest question mark we have will be over the format of the transcribed text, and whether it's to be an exact copy of what's said or edited highlights; by the latter I mean where there are additional commentary in the background from other members of the cast, or passers by. There are a number of formats used for business minutes that could be adopted or we could go our own way totally. Just my thoughts. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Alan Pope Sent: 26 June 2008 15:52 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Using bzr, was: Wanted: Podcast transcribers On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:59:13AM +0100, Stephen O'Neill wrote: Hmmm, not sure about using version control... I'm a programmer so I'm happy to use it but not sure if it would be a barrier to others. That said we're only talking about a couple of commands here. Wikis do store revision history so perhaps that will suffice... depends what extra formats we want to store etc - guess that's a question for Al as he's the customer. I discussed this at length with Dave earlier, and came to the conclusion that bzr/launchpad would be a good way to go with this. We came up with a comprehensive but simple how-to to get someone up and running. I've tested it in a clean install of Ubuntu and it works nicely. It takes no more than 5 mins to setup the environment (including registering an email account and a launchpad account!). Once setup it's a very nice way to manage this and makes for a very easy way for multiple people to contribute. Later tonight I'll tidy up the how-to, and if I get time, make a screencast of it too. I appreciate that the idea of using bzr/launchpad (or a version control system in general) might put some people off contributing, but I hope we can overcome any worries on that score with a comprehensive set of documentation. Of course when I say comprehensive documentation people are probably going to think oh jeez, I thought I could just open a text editor and go!, well you basically can, if you invest 5 mins up front to setup the environment. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] (OT) New banking regulations
The only word that appears to be missing from section 12.9 is Windows! Perhaps a little mail to the ombudsman to clarify things might not go a miss? Although I'd suspect that the wording is there for a catch all. Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andy Loughran Sent: 12 June 2008 17:03 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] (OT) New banking regulations Interesting development. I don't know how enforceable it is though. Many of the ways in which bank accounts are compromised are simply through the ignorance, technical or otherwise, of the user. I guess it's a way to stop people complaining to bank when their PC is overrun with viruses that have swiped their details. On a linux machine that's less likely to happen in the first place, so the chance of section 12.9 actually coming into effect is minimal. However, I'd recommend making sure your mail server does a virus scan, for social rather than technical reasons. That way I guess you can also claim you have up to date anti-virus. Regards, Andy - Original Message - From: Josh Blacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: [ubuntu-uk] (OT) New banking regulations I don't know if this has been discussed before (not been keeping as up-to-date with the list as I should!), but thought I'd flag up a change to the Banking Code here in the UK. The code reads: Unless you have acted fraudulently or without reasonable care (for example, by not following the advice in section 12.9), you will not be liable for losses caused by someone else which take place through your online banking service Section 12.9 says Use up-to-date antivirus and spyware software and a personal firewall. Now, we have a built-in firewall (and I know many people on this list will have a box running ipcop, for instance), but I personally don't use AV software - for fairly obvious reasons. Anyone reckon but I use Linux! isn't going to be enough to make a bank take liability for your lost cash? Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jun/12/hitechcrime.law -- All the best, Josh Blacker -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam poll - help required (please)
Gents As I'm a nosey so and so I've had a look at both Alan's and your videos Matt. My only comment is they all seem to be very very quiet - strangely Matt the in built mic gives a better clarity volume than the headphone appears to do. Come on folks, let's have a few more contenders for the UK Ubuntu You've been framed award! Ian PS I'm excluded from this game as I don't have the web cam - phew! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matt Daubney Sent: 04 June 2008 17:19 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam poll - help required (please) This looks like a fun game. Here's my attempt, 2 vids linked, one using my logitech headset, the other using the cams internal mic. The camera is a logitech QuickCam Connect: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:08d9 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Connect It's using the gspca driver which I installed manually on my lovely inspiron 6400. The only things I had to tweak was the fact that VLC didn't seem to like me using ~ so had to type out the full path, and to use the internal mic on the camera I changed the input source to /dev/dsp1 Ok, video with the headset (my normal setup): http://daubers.homelinux.net/~matt/camtest/with_mic.mpg and video with internal mic: http://daubers.homelinux.net/~matt/camtest/internal_mic.mpg Is that of any use Mr Pope sir? -Matt Daubney -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] UDS Questions for the podcast
Alan Be interested to hear on current views about positive / active interactions Ubuntu have with upstream projects currently following the Debion security hole, and the on going suggestion that distros should have their own patches against a branch of the kernal GIT repo. and not just hold them in house. Additionally, what packagers look for in a project before bringing it into the official Ubuntu repos, and is the reverse true for projects that get dropped? Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Philip Stubbs Sent: 15 May 2008 12:34 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] UDS Questions for the podcast 2008/5/15 Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If any of you have any burning questions you would like us to ask, people you'd like us to talk to, or topics you'd like us to discuss - either with the developers in general, or specific individuals, please either comment on this thread or email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Mark Shuttleworth recently hinted that he would like to see the major Linux Distributions synchronised. I am sure there are many and varied views on that. I would be interested to know what people think are the main benefits and drawbacks. Also, what are the hurdles that would need to be overcome to achieve it? -- Philip Stubbs -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Re-Spins
Popey et al A question that I think has been answered before. During the life of a supported release, non LTS and LTS, are the CD ISO images ever re-spun to incorporate any type of updates? I know that the art of a CD spin is very much achieved through majic, quantum mathmatics, rocket science and the application of TARDIS, but what about the larger capacity DVDs? Having seen that you can now have your own CVS tree in Launchpad, can you provide your own spins of Ubuntu there too utilising items within the official Ubuntu repos? Something akin to FC's SIG spins. Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Demo Day
Evening Diane Catching up on personal e-mails at the moment - is this still on for this weekend? Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dianne Reuby Sent: 17 March 2008 21:48 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Demo Day On Mon, 2008-03-17 at 21:32 +, Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi Diane Quick question - will the normal exhibits still be available for viewing? The museum will be open as usual - the current exhibition is Pong to Playstation (which includes the Wii, but Pong to Wii didn't sound so good!) This exhibition will hopefully be touring the UK from April next year. We also have our permanent display of significant and interesting machines etc. Children can try the quiz, or design and build a games character. Like all museums we've got far more in storage than we can display, so ask if there's anything you don't see - we may have it. Dianne Reuby Collections Manager Museum of Computing @ Swindon http://www.museum-of-computing.org.uk -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sound broken in Hearty
Rob System sounds are still apparently non existant but on version -20 you can now get normal bleeps bangs and music etc Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 10 March 2008 23:02 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sound broken in Hearty Ian Pascoe wrote: Folks Just a heads up for those of you tracking Hearty. The latest version of the kernal has servere broken parts as far as sound is concerned. Current advice is to keep with the 2.6.24-11 kernal if you can. Ian I found this too, I thought it was just my sound card (SB Live 5.1 Digital). I presume this will be fixed in shortly. Other than that it seems to be working fine. I wish it included new versions of MPlayer and FFMpeg (I'm having to compile from source which is an all new experience for me). Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Sound broken in Hearty
Folks Just a heads up for those of you tracking Hearty. The latest version of the kernal has servere broken parts as far as sound is concerned. Current advice is to keep with the 2.6.24-11 kernal if you can. Ian -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Minimal, Lighttpd, Perl CGI, PHP and MySQL with Tiny Memory
Just catching up on mails. What about SQLite instead? Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kris Douglas Sent: 06 March 2008 17:38 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Minimal, Lighttpd, Perl CGI,PHP and MySQL with Tiny Memory On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Andrew Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've written a guide to installing Ubuntu Server, Lighttpd (an alternative to the Apache web server), Perl CGI, PHP and MySQL on a machine (or virtual machine) with 64MB of memory or less. http://www.aoakley.com/articles/2008-03-06-ubuntu-minimal-memory.php Comments very much appreciated, in particular the MySQL config. Although Ubuntu does provide a LAMP default install in Ubuntu Server edition, this requires 256MB memory. In particular, Apache and especially the default MySQL install are real memory hogs, and are designed for reasonably heavy-use environments. I saw around 200MB RAM in use with no users connected! My config, in contrast, is designed for test/development environments or very low-use websites, typically serving no more than 6 concurrent users and only simple SQL requests. My tests under Ubuntu 6 LTS Server showed less than 34MB of memory in use. In particular, my config is suitable for very cheap VPS hosting accounts such as vpsville.ca , tektonic.net , cheapvps.co.uk and so forth - basically your own root-access Internet server for less than five quid a month! Sounds cool, but I bet there are much better replacements for MySQL, like Postgres, which runs in quite a low mem footprint. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Minimal, Lighttpd, Perl CGI, PHP and MySQL with Tiny Memory
Ah ignore previous posting -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andrew Oakley Sent: 06 March 2008 21:27 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Minimal, Lighttpd, Perl CGI, PHP and MySQL with Tiny Memory Kris Douglas wrote: Sounds cool, but I bet there are much better replacements for MySQL, like Postgres, which runs in quite a low mem footprint. Indeed - and I'd start with SQLite which requires no server and is built-in to PHP. My aim was to maintain compatibility with the vast number of ready-made PHP applications that use MySQL, though. -- Andrew Oakley -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] where is everyone?
Curiously enough this seems to be world wide as a few lists I'm on have gone very quiet over the past couple of days and various where are you mails are popping up. Personally, I reckon it's all the sons and daughters hiding from their mothers' over the weekend it kinds of knocks your self esteem to have your mum asking you questions like did you wash your hands after being to the toilet? in the biggest stage whisper possible at your favourite eatery E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of norman Sent: 04 March 2008 18:47 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] where is everyone? On Tue, 2008-03-04 at 17:34 +, Alan Pope wrote: On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 02:47:49PM +, Gavin Ford wrote: On Tue, Mar 04, 2008 at 02:35:39PM +, alan c wrote: Is it me, or something at my end here, but things seem uncommonly quiet on this list for the last several days? Quiet. Too quiet. I think something sinister is going on and they aren't telling us about it. There is... see if you can guess what it is :) Those of you who are paid a monthly salary have not yet recovered from working an extra day in February without pay. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Media Centre Functionality
Folks As the Audio Description service on digital TV seems to be becoming more widespread on broadcasts these days, I was wondering if anyone knew of any media centre application that dealt with AD. So far everything I found seems to be around digiboxes and Sky boxes, but I haven't as yet found any PC TV / Media cards that support this feature or software that can deal with it unless of course you know something different? Cheers E Audio Description is where a visually impaired viewer gets extra audio information to describe things like body language, movement of people etc during a TV program. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu spotting
Can we back date? If so I phoned up one of our homeworker ICT specialists on Friday with a problem, and heard the drums as he was switching off his home PC. Also, on the local Freecycle list, a non LUG member advertised an old PIII desktop running Ubuntu as a dual booter they wanted to get rid of. 1.5 points in total me thinks. Got to travel down to London tomorrow so'll keep an ear open and see if I can find some more; I'm not competitive at all, honest! E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Colin McCarthy Sent: 26 February 2008 21:08 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu spotting On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Rob Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If anyone is a 24 fan and has the Season 3 box set, check out Episode 1 about 2 minutes 43 seconds in and see what is on the laptop screen. Looks to me like the K from KDE, possibly KDE3. Rob I noticed Linux being used while I watched the show too, but I am SO nerdy I took screen captures of the video file I was watching and saved them :-) It was from an episode when Jack was on the run and went over to Tony's house for help. Hope they get attached to this email ok. Only a small file, about 20K in size. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] [orca-list] Videos of Orca in India, featuring Orca list member Krishnakant Mane
Folks For those interested or involved. Ian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Korn Sent: 23 February 2008 19:54 To: Orca screen reader developers Subject: [orca-list] Videos of Orca in India,featuring Orca list member Krishnakant Mane Earlier today I came across two YouTube videos about Orca use in the State of Tamil Nadu in India, featuring our own Krishnakant Mane! The first is an ~8 minute collection of three local news pieces about a seminar Krishnakant held for the blind, talking about the use of Orca and Linux. The second is a ~10 minute promotional video from ELCOT (Electronics Corporation of Tamil Nadu Limited), talking about their work for the blind around Ubuntu Orca, in the context of Corporate Social Responsibility. See the first video at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eqtkJYtWKE See the second video at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzLIKxpZV0U I've blogged about it as well, where I took the liberty of transcribing some quotes from the two videos. Regards, Peter Korn Accessibility Architect, Sun Microsystems, Inc. ___ Orca-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] OT: (Nanny) OGG Files
Folks Due to reasons that are to mind numbingly boring to go into, I need to try and find a plug in for eithre Windows Media or REAL that will play (Nanny) OGG audio files - anyone know of any and where to get them? Cheers E PS Apparently Granny Weatherwax nor Magrat Garlick sounded like a good name for a compression sound file so Nanny Ogg came to the rescue singing the hedgehog song If you're still mystified by all of this, you're obviously not an inhabitent of Ankh Morpork, Lancre, the Ramtops nor the Discworld. But the story is true! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual monitors with independent desktops
Rob If I get your drift, you don't actually want an extended desktop, but two seperate window managers working on seperate monitors? If so, have a look at the front page of last week's Linux Weekly News about the extension to the X environment to handle multiple devices - is that what you were aiming at or the extended desktop? E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 13 February 2008 00:16 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dual monitors with independent desktops Steve Cook wrote: On Tue, 2008-02-12 at 22:45 +, Rob Beard wrote: Hi folks, The graphics card on my PC has dual DVI video output (it's an ATI Radeon X300). At the moment I'm only using a single display on a 17 LCD monitor, however I was wondering if it's possible to run two screens but indepdendently of each other. For example, on my main monitor I'd like to have my usual programs (Firefox, Thunderbird etc) running, but on the second monitor I'd like to be able to send the output of Mplayer for playing full screen videos but not have the windows from the other screen use this monitor. Does anyone know if this sort of thing is possible? This is the default behaviour if xinerama, twin view, etc. is not used. steve Actually looking at this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinerama#Dual_display_X_without_Xinerama I think dual screens without Xinerama but two independent window managers might do the job. Basically what I want to do is send the second monitor output to an LCD TV (but not have a complete MythTV installation) which I can just play videos on. Thanks for the tips Steve, I'll have a read up. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice
Wasn't there some problems with AoL that meant that they were not compatible with Linux based OS's? Anyhow, I agree with Rob about steering clear of Talk Talk unless you want to tie yourself into a, still?, crap Customer Services and a long contract. E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 05 February 2008 17:31 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Broadband Advice Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: Hi All, I've just moved to wales and because I didn't finish the 12 months contract on my broadband with Plus.net they're going to charge me the privilige of £145.00 to move my broadband even though I want to keep them as a supplier!!! AOL are currently offering a free dell 1520 laptop (now discontinued!) and my wife has suggested taking the broadband offer, selling the laptop and making some cash. I like the idea, however I cringe when I think about using AOL, does anyone have any advice? Cheers, M. Speaking as an EX-AOL customer, I wouldn't do it. When I had AOL is was god damn awful, even worse when Talktalk took over. I'd NEVER take out anything more than a 3 month contract for any ISP now. Personally I think you'd be better off looking at someone like UKFSN (www.ukfsn.org). They are resellers for Enta (I'm with another Enta reseller - Vivaciti) prices are from about £16 a month but they have 30 day contracts and great support. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hi from Salisbury
Hi Andy Welcome to the list of those magnificent men, and women, driving those ubuntu machines Just remember that Ubuntu goes up-titty-titty-up, whilst vista goes down-titty-titty-down really shouldn't watch Ealing comedys on a Sunday but it beats the depression from yesterday's pasting -Original Message- E From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Rowson Sent: 03 February 2008 18:30 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hi from Salisbury Hi People Recently joined the mailing list.. Have experimented with Xubuntu, Mandriva and SuSe but have finally settled with Ubuntu with the Claws mailer.. The name is apt as my wife spent most of her life living in Zimbabwe Andy Hi Andy, Welcome to the list mate - Thanks for saying hello ;-) Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing - AVID?
Sean LWN finished off a video editing series week before last, which I sped read through - it may provide some enlightenment. E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sean Miller Sent: 02 February 2008 20:08 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing - AVID? Anybody any ideas with OSS and/or Linux for this friend from Glastonbury? Thanks in advance. Sean = i have an external hard drive with a bunch of video footage from the sunrise festival to be edited - it has been captured in avid , the file are not compatable with my editing program - adobe cs3 i have downloaded and installed avid dv to import thyem and export them as an avi file, but it is incompatible with my video card agh its a frustrating week for me computerwise does anyone here use avid and could convert the files for me or have any solution? :) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenSSI on Ubuntu (with LTSP thrown infor goodmeasure)
Rob Sorry mate, going to have to waive the white flag on this one! Thought I had replied back to the person who gave me the link I was thinking of and can't find that darn mail at all. If I find it in the future I will pop it onto the list. E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob Beard Sent: 29 January 2008 21:10 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] OpenSSI on Ubuntu (with LTSP thrown infor goodmeasure) On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 20:59 +, Ian Pascoe wrote: Hi Rob I have desperately been trying to find an article I read last month that would seem to fit your ideal nicely Rob and also keep the geek in you interested. The project was based on LTSP and worked in a kinda clustering sort of way. If memory serves each client on the network as it had spare CPU capacity would allow some of this capacity to be used to bolster up the main servers - obviously the clients being proper PCs together with a high bandwidth interconnect. It may well have been as a result of a posting here as I have a nagging suspision that it was detailed somewhere on schoolforge.net, or similar. I'll have some lubrication later on tonight and see if the grey cells can be bullied into working. E Thanks Ian, this sounds a bit like what I was told about. If you can find the information I'd love to know. Ta, Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
