Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu getting too bloated?

[Paul Roach]

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On 29/05/10 11:55, Harry Rickards wrote:
> On 29 May 2010 11:52, Paul Roach  wrote:
> 
>> Unfortunately it wasn't a scientific test...but on Ubuntu I'd estimate
>> about 50 seconds to login screen and a further 20 seconds to get GDM
>> up.  Debian seems to get to the login screen in about the same time
>> (maybe a little less), but then only takes  <10 seconds to get into a
>> usable desktop.
>
> Did you install Gnome on Debian, because AFAIK XFCE is the default
> desktop environment for Debian.
>
> 
Hi Harry, I was quite surprised, as somewhere down the line the Debian
team have started offering a  graphical installer with a choice of
desktop environmentsI opted for Gnome for familiarities sake for
my wife and daughter :) I don't recall whether XFCE was in the options
on the installer,  but it reminded me of the old Red Hat graphical
installer asking what type of system it was to be with a load of
pre-selected packages that could then be customised.  I installed from
the minimal CD, by the way, and the installer just downloaded the
components selected...
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu getting too bloated?

[Paul Roach]

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On 29/05/10 11:15, Daniel M. Drummond wrote:

> Tom's Hardware had an interesting articles comparing Lucid with
> Hardy
> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ubuntu-10.04-lucid-lynx,2634.html
>
>
and this showed a general trend of an increase in performance.

I'll have a look through the article with interest when I get a chance
:)  Thanks for pointing that out :)

> I would be very surprised if Debian boot times were shorter than
> the Ubuntu boot times, given the work that has been put into this
> area. In the most recent Ubuntus I have had a 10 second extra wait
> due to ACPI DSDT problems, but an older kernel won't have this.  In
> that respect sometimes an older distro feels quicker.

Unfortunately it wasn't a scientific test...but on Ubuntu I'd estimate
about 50 seconds to login screen and a further 20 seconds to get GDM
up.  Debian seems to get to the login screen in about the same time
(maybe a little less), but then only takes  <10 seconds to get into a
usable desktop.

> You could always start with a plain server install, and then add
> just the desktop features you want (It'll be a bit simpler than an
> Arch install).  For me though the extra features speed up my
> efficiency in using the system, so any slowdown due to bloat is
> negated by this.

I'm not averse to doing this, and I use a bash script to get the
applications I use regularly installed, so this would be a minor task
after doing it the first time.  I'm going to be trying Fedora 13 again
now that they've done some work on the open ATI drivers and the card
in my laptop now performs well when booting livethere have been
some bold steps forward in the last 3 versions of Fedora anyway (I've
been doing some testing with FreeIPA in VMs as a potential replacement
for Active Directory in the longer term).

> How did the server's compare incidentally?

It's difficult to compare the servers, as they're on wildly different
hardware and perform different functions.  I use CentOS for an old
Asterisk box that's on one of our sites and it's extremely stable and
performs well, I've got 2 Ubuntu servers running as  Ebox domain
controllers, mailservers, etc in 2 of our other businesses, and I use
Debian for Backuppc and our distributed Nagios installations, one of
which is running extremely well on a Sheevaplug, and another is
running in a KVM virtual machine on ProxMox.  I've got other VM's on
the same hardware for our ticketing and asset management systems. I'm
happy with all of them in terms of performance, particularly the
Debian servers given that they are running in very limited hardware
environments...

> Dan

Thanks for the feedback Dan :)

Roachy

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[ubuntu-uk] Is Ubuntu getting too bloated?

[Paul Roach]

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First of all, let me say this isn't a troll, but a genuine question
with regard to the direction of the project as someone who's been
on-and off using Ubuntu since Dapper...

I've used a fair few distros over the years and have enjoyed some more
than others.  I'm a big fan of Arch, for example, but just don't have
the time to devote to setting it up on different machines
regularly...I also love the Crunchbang project, which is truly awesome
for an astoundingly fast distro - my wife gets excellent performance
on it on her EEPC701 :) If you've not used it, check it out!

I also have quite a few servers running and these are split between
CentOS, Debian and Ubuntu.

The other day, I decided to rebuild one of my desktop machines, and
thought i'd see what was happening with Debian now (with a Desktop
environment), and was truly amazed - the boot times and responsiveness
were astounding compared to Lucid on the same hardware...it feels like
a new machine.  I've got to wonder whether all the social networking
intergration, etc are the right direction for the project if it
damages performanceshould these things be optional and not
included in a virgin install from the start?

I do a lot of network analysis, and on my Lucid laptop I have to apply
a ton of filters in TCPDump or wireshark to avoid obfuscating results
- -it's phenominal how much network overhead is added as a result of
these extra featureseven when they appear to not be running.
Seriously, try booting your machine and firing up wireshark and just
watch the erroneous traffic flying around!

How do other people feel about the growth of Ubuntu in terms of
network overhead and hardware use?

My other question is with regard to the forums.as more users start
using Ubuntu, the forums see at lot more traffic, but every time i go
onto Ubuntu Forums, I have a massive facepalm at some of the advice
being offered on there, which to a new user looks like good advice...
and it's undoubtedly offered with good intentions.  Looking for
answers in Ubuntu now seems to present a mountain of white noise, and
not a lot of substance...

As I say, not trolling, but just interested in other peoples thoughts

Roachy
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] media centre remote

[Paul Roach]

On 16/04/10 11:19, richard wrote:
> i want a remote to use with a revo running xbmc and boxee on mint, do they 
> all work or are some better than others? tia richard
>
If you enable the http server within XBMC you can use any cellphone with 
Wifi and a browser...

Can't comment on using an *actual* remote as never felt the need due to 
the ability to control the media centre through my mobile...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just noticed something..not sure if its an error.....

[Paul Roach]

..oh and a # denotes root - $ denotes anything else

so if you sudo -i you'll see the prompt replaced with # :)

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Paul Roach  wrote:
> Just to emphasise - hostnames aren't case sensitive - file and
> foldernames are :)
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Matthew Daubney  wrote:
>
>>> Sorry to be pedantic, but the missing word is quite important :)
>>>
>>
>> Indeed, apologies for that!
>

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Just noticed something..not sure if its an error.....

[Paul Roach]

Just to emphasise - hostnames aren't case sensitive - file and
foldernames are :)

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Matthew Daubney  wrote:

>> Sorry to be pedantic, but the missing word is quite important :)
>>
>
> Indeed, apologies for that!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please help.I've lost my partitions

[Paul Roach]

On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 10:06 AM, javadayaz  wrote:
> Can you please point towards an article regarding re creating the partition
> table?

I'd strongly recommend getting another drive of the same size or
larger and dd'ing the broken drive.  Then you can work on a copy if
the drive without touching the original data.

Working with a borked drive is dangerous in that in trying to recover
the data, it's very easy to make matters worse

Get another drive before proceeding and install in the machine.then

sudo dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hdb bs=4k conv=noerror,sync

(where hda in the example is the original broken disk and hdb is the
new blank disk).  You can then work with a copy of the disk without
worries...

Good luck

Paul

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recreating home folder?

[Paul Roach]

You can just recreate the folder...but remember to assign the folder
to the corresponding user and group with chown


On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Alex Birchall  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> For some reason (maybe a slip of the wrist?), a home folder for an
> ordinary user on my Ubuntu server has disappeared (nothing vital lost).
> The user is still there.  Can I just recreate the user's home folder, or
> should I delete the user and create another one?
>
> Regards,
>
> Alex
>
> Alexander J Birchall
> Library Systems Manager
> Middlesex University
> The Sheppard Library
> The Burroughs
> London NW4 4BT
>
> Tel 0208 411 5235
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] photo organizer

[Paul Roach]

You can use f-spot to generate html pages that you can then drop on to
a web server running htpasswd/htaccess.


On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:40 AM, javadayaz  wrote:
> Hi all,
> Does any one know of a photo organizer in ubuntu which could upload to a web
> app? The web app has to be password protected which i can give to various
> people around the world and they in turn can upload their albums to this as
> well.
> ps i dont want to give out my google account password!!!
>
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>
> Javad
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on PS3?

[Paul Roach]

On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 12:30 PM,   wrote:

> A friend of mine tried installing both ubuntu and yellow dog on PS3, his
> plan was to play HD content from linux, but it couldn't handle it, and
> performence was way too slow (guessing it's because of the limitations sony
> have on Other OS option).

If it's a resource issue (and not a hardware restriction issue), maybe
a lightweight derivative such as Crunchbang might handle it
better.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] web / e-mail hosting

[Paul Roach]

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mac wrote:
>
> Mmm... a comfortable abdication only if the innocent never come to harm.
>
> But, even so, you don't have to hand over your wallet to The Man
> *before* he holds you up at knife point, do you?
>
> mac
Of course it is possible to have the convenience of using Google apps
without adjusting the tinfoil hat

Just use gnupg and a mail client that supports it (Claws/Thunderbird),
and exchange keys with friends and anyone who is likely to send you a
mail with anything remotely personalpretty much anything else I
receive is newsletter based or from companies..and I really don't
care if Google know that I buy my DVD's from Play.com and my books
from Amazon if they crawl online receipts

I used to host my own mail server - but I use that box for general
experimentation and the downtime I created for myself was getting to
be a pain, but if you have a static box it's not too painful to
implement... either that or VPS's are pretty cheap nowadays and then
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Recommendation for SIP phone wanted

[Paul Roach]

I appreciate you're not really in the market for pure SIP phones, but
if you change your mind the call quality is phenominal on the Polycom
range - we use them in an office environment and they're excellent

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu and MS domain servers

[Paul Roach]

Likewise open is indeed in the repos - although it is possible to join
a domain manually, using Likewise is infinitely quicker!

sudo apt-get install likewise-open

then

sudo domainjoin-cli join yourdomain.local administra...@yourdomain password

:)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop or Server?

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Rob Beard wrote:
> So now I generally just install the server components (and not always
> Ubuntu, sometimes I install the CentOS based SME Server).
Interesting Rob - I've recently set up Ebox on Ubuntu for one of my
boss's businesses.and found it to be pretty slick. Having used
SME server before I found it to be a pretty slick install...nicely
integrated with LDAP/Samba, etc. Some of the features of it are very
nice such as easy OpenVPN cert creation - to the point where you can
just click to download a Windows OpenVPN client with the client certs
bundled, so it's easy for the senior administrative staff to create
and revoke OpenVPN accounts on demand... it's pretty slick, and newer
versions even incorporate jabber and asterisk server integration...
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Exchange 2007 Support in Karmic

[Paul Roach]

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Jon Spriggs  wrote:

> Just out of interest, what boxes did horde fail to tick? I've been very
> enthusiastic about their systems in the past, and I'm fairly confident that
> having the IMAP set up properly behind the scenes should give you a
> comprehensive exchange-like replacement, with many many more features.
>
If it was just to be used in a web based environment, all the boxes would be
ticked - especially with the AJAX interface that gives all the functionality
associated with a full application.  The trouble is the dependence on
Outlook - and for this further 3rd party dependencies need to be met
(Funambol/SyncML).

Given that MS have broken third party apps working (again) I suppose this
weekend will be spent building a horde server and testing how the interface
looks and feels on the Outlook clients - effectively if any extra effort is
required on the part of the user (remembering to sync, etc) or speed of
synchronisation of calendars (our users require near instant updates on
public folders) then it looks like Exchange 2007 is going to be the way
forwardand I'm going to have to go back to using Windows at work (at the
very least in a VM).
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[ubuntu-uk] Exchange 2007 Support in Karmic

[Paul Roach]

Wondered whether anyone on the list has had any joy/luck with Evolution and
MS Exchange 2007.  I've read a lot online about incompatibility due to MS
sacking WebDAV - which is effectively how Evolution-Exchange and Exchange
2003 talk to each other, but haven't been able to find (m)any success
stories.

I'd love to move the messaging architecture over to something open source -
but at the same time I'm looking for simplicity of deployment to our
predominantly MS users (who heavily use shared Calendars/Tasks and Public
Folders in Exchange).  I've looked at Horde, eGroupware and Lotus Notes but
Horde and eGroupware fail to tick all the boxes and Notes works out more
expensive on licencing.  Effectively for the next few years it looks like
I'm stuck with MS and Active Directory - I'm just hoping that I don't end up
breaking my own systems in the process so any comments would be appreciated.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Desktop or Server?

[Paul Roach]

I'm afraid to say I follow the rest of the herd with this - and I've not
come across an administrative function yet that "requires" a gui on an
Ubuntu server.  If I need to move files around and i feel it will be quicker
graphically I just ssh://ipaddress within nautilus and copy files around
that way.  Updates and installations are easily achieved with
Apt-get/Aptitude - and it's even possible to remotely install a distro using
ssh, by converting the swap partition to ext2 and installing to that - all
at the command line

The only example I can think of where a graphical environment would need to
be installed would be Tony's example - using FreeNX to create a terminal
server.

That said - if you must install a graphical environment - I'd install the
server version first and add the desktop (preferably a lightweight one)
rather than installing the Desktop edition along with all it's bloat...
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Using a 3G modem as a fallback

[Paul Roach]

> LeeGroups wrote:
> > LoL - That's what a mate of mine said a couple of years ago when he
> > moved to a new estate in Milton Keynes...
> > Nice shiney house, but his ADSL connection is now a breathtaking 450 *K*
> > Bits/sec...
> > Yes, that's correct - less than 1/2 MBit...
>

It's usually worth having a look at Samknows.com (http://www.samknows.com).
We put a lot of connections into rural locations and it's a useful tool to
establish what the local Exchange supports and also to get an idea of the
distance from the Exchange (as the crow flies).  Generally it gives a pretty
accurate impression.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Tutorial on PC to PC support?

[Paul Roach]

I suppose a reverse SSH tunnel to your home machine and then a second tunnel
forwarded through the home machine to the destination would (in theory)
work, although I can't test this where I am at the moment.

You might want to have a look at this article - it sort of covers chaining
SSH tunnels (and running tunnels over tunnels).

http://www.spencerstirling.com/computergeek/sshtunnel.html

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Rob Beard  wrote:

>
> So that leads me to my next question, is it possible to forward the port
> to say, a virtual machine and then have another PC connect into the
> virtual machine to pick up the port forwarding.  Sort of a proxy as such.
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Tutorial on PC to PC support?

[Paul Roach]

Gitso is great for this.

It creates a reverse VNC tunnel - meaning that the end user whose machine
you wish to control has to establish a connection back to you.  This means
that they are in control of the session and it gives them assurances that
you cannot just login again at a later date.

http://code.google.com/p/gitso/

It works well with anything you can run VNC onwhich is handy for me
supporting Windows and Linux!



On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Gordon  wrote:

> Can someone point me to a tutorial on how to remotely control a machine
> not in the same location and not on the same network?
>
> Ta!
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] (no subject)

[Paul Roach]

A quicker and easier way is to look in Nautilus preferences and change the
default icon size there - experiment until you find a suitable size.  This
will affect the icon size throughout your system.

Hope this helps

P

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Luke-Jennings <
ubuntujenk...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> HI,
> If you right click the icon and then select "stretch icon".
> Unfortunately you need to do each one individually this way.
>
> Luke
>
>
> On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 01:53 -0800, JONATHAN TAYLOR wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I've been looking (probably in all the wrong places) for ways to
> > change the icon sizes on my desktop. If I was organised (if only) I
> > wouldn't need so many there, but as I run my own business I do.
> > I know I ought to put folders with groups in, but it's handy having
> > them all in front of me, and now I'm using up valuable space.
> > Thanks for your help (in advance!)
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

[Paul Roach]

Just to reply to the original thread - followup to the register article on
slashdot this morning.

Lots of positive feedback there (although not exactly an "average user"
demographic, usually pretty scathing)
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/09/11/03/2211231/Some-Early-Adopters-Stung-By-Ubuntus-Karmic-Koala
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Not a good press

[Paul Roach]

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Ed Morgan  wrote:

> Is is possible that the Karmic release is getting something of a higher
> profile in the mainstream press due to it's release pretty much coinciding
> with Windows 7, and the hype that's been generated about it?
>
> I think it's equally possible that increased exposure is currently
happening due to the ongoing efforts of the community as a whole to build a
"desktop friendly, user friendly" distro.  Ubuntu is generally ahead of the
pack in it's "no-hassle" installation and is rapidly becoming a distribution
for the masses - the danger is, of course that the wrong party line is
getting issued and Ubuntu (& Linux in general) is getting touted as a free
version of Windows - not something that is *not* Windows, has nothing to do
with Windows and cannot be expected to behave in the same way as Windows.
Software compatibility is an equal issue.  Gripes like "I can't install
Photoshop/Sage/etc" need to be countered before the user blitzes their copy
of Windows and suddenly realizes they need to learn to use a new product to
do things they knew how to do previously..

For the most part it's about managing expectations, as with most things in
life.  Improperly managed expectations will undoubtedly result in
disappointment - however I have to say that Karmic is the plushest release
yet - and the difference in performance and integration of applications
between 9.04 and 9.10 is amazing...
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] 9.10 won't connect to Windows shares on network

[Paul Roach]

Likewise with a fresh install here - works fine.  Were the problem machines
upgrades by any chance?

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

> On 30/10/09 08:04, Gordon wrote:
> > 9.04 connected to windows shares both on XP and Win 7.
> > Upgraded to 9.10 yesterday, all I get is the error" Cannot mount
> > location failed to retrieve share list from server"
>
> I have a fresh 9.10 install and can browse and mount shares on my Samba
> server. Not sure if this helps but thought I'd mention it anyway.
>
> Al
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Setting Up an Ubuntu network?

[Paul Roach]

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Jon Spriggs  wrote:

> My personal preference is to use SSHFS.
>
A fast and dirty way of accessing another machine through Nautilus
incidentally is to type ssh://yourmachineip in the nautilus address bar if
you wish to use the gui quickly :)

NFS is (imho) better for more permanent connections but as Jon says - there
are loads of options out there
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Is it today Koala comes out?????

[Paul Roach]

> Had it on my laptop for a while. Works fine with no problems. Intel
> graphics drivers are infinitely better so all the compiz bells and
> whistles work very nicely now.
>

Likewise here - been running the RC and can report that it's been pretty
seamless on all the hardware i've thrown it at.  Probably the least hassle
I've had from any release yet.  I'll be testing the server edition in a few
VM's in due course for fairly innocuous stuff (Nagios, etc) but will wait
until the download frenzy has finished for that...
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu on the BBC!!!

[Paul Roach]

> The moral I take from this is - the more Ubuntu is used, anywhere, the
> closer we get to the tipping point.
>
> I have introduced three friends in recent months to  Linux Emporium,
> because they wanted an Ubuntu only Laptop from a retail friendly
> source. Three  purchases.  LE is giving an impressive service, I can
> recommend them.
>

I'd second that Alan - I found a desktop via the LE for a friend, and the
service was first class and the product was excellent - very good for people
who want to use an alternative OS, but don't want the usual argument with
suppliers about refunding OS fees and invalidating warranty due to changing
the OS...

I've personally found that the less pre-requisite Windows experience people
have had, the easier they adapt to Linux - people who have to forget the
previous knowledge to learn anew have a harder time than those who are just
learning something... this has been true for friends and elderly relatives
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Samba Timeout?

[Paul Roach]

On the XP Box, right click on My Computer, and then select Manage.

In there you should be able to see Shared Folders and Sessions.  Check that
the number of sessions does not exceed 10 - as I've seen smbclient not
release connections previously, and XP will only allow 10 concurrent
connections


On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Liam Wilson  wrote:

> Hey all;
>
> I've set up a nice little home network with my 9.04 laptop and my XP box
> using samba. The only problem I have is that whilst the connection works
> fine after booting up my 9.04 (Which is the client), I can access my files
> on the XP server and vice-versa for about 20-30 minutes, and then the
> connection 'times out' and I cannot access the XP server. It does not even
> show up in Networks!
>
> Is there any possibility to resolve this other than rebooting my 9.04?
>
> Many thanks;
> Liam
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] linux & viruses

[Paul Roach]

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:48 AM, Matt Wheeler  wrote:

> 2009/10/21 Peter Adam Kelly :
> > Thanks loads for the info,
> >
> > I am brushing up on my knowledge of network security, I have some Ubuntu
> > dedicated and VPS servers and of course I want them as strong as can be,
> any
> > more links or info would be appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers
>

A couple of other pointers - if running PHP consider using the suhosin patch
- and for other public facing servers test their vulnerability using
Nessus/Nikto etc (I believe this has recently been mentioned in another post
of the list - although it might have been a different list).

You might also want to consider routing syslogs to another box.  That way,
if a machine is compromised, the logs are not at as much risk.

Needless to say, only permit traffic to hosts from the boxes that need
access - not so good for webservers, but if you're running private
webservers it's often possible to only permit access to these from hosts
that you "approve of".

If possible, only permit key based login using SSH as well - this will
completely remove the risk of password based attacks

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] IBM & Ubuntu - but what about Lotus?

[Paul Roach]

It's an interesting development and perhaps brings Ubuntu one step closer to
providing support for an application that can genuinely compete with MS
Exchange (the sole reason why we still have an Active Directory environment
here - as everything else for Windows clients can be delivered via
Samba+LDAP).  IMHO it's the one thing that's lacking for Ubuntu and Linux in
general.  A cost effective, functional and not exclusively web based
groupware solution that functions for both Windows and Linux clients would
then provide a complete migration path for corporates to an Open-Source
environment.  Unfortunately Exchange is, at the moment Microsoft's killer
app and is too often dismissed as a simple mail server.  The integration it
provides with the other aspects and features (shared tasks, calendars,
public folders, journaling, etc) mean that there's nothing out there at
present that can touch it.

Thanks for bringing this to attention Mac, and for the detailed response
Alan.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:59 AM, mac  wrote:

> Alan Bell wrote:
> > I have been working with Lotus Notes and Domino for 10+ years...
> 
>
> Wow!  I could hardly have wished for a more comprehensive and
> authoritative single reply, Alan.  Thanks for taking the time and
> trouble to give such a detailed and informed response.  It sounds like
> the bits I'd be interested in (essentially, the office suite) are the
> least attractive parts, and the Notes application (which people who've
> worked for PriceWaterhouseCooper tell me is used to impressive effect
> there, in ways you allude to) is not something I have much need for.
>
> Many thanks!
>
> mac
>
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nokia phone running open source

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Never mind - found it on mobilephonesdirect.co.uk on Vodafone and
T-Mobile, free on a 24 month contract :)


Matt Jones wrote:
> I have seen it for free on a £35/mo contract with a pretty decent
> usage allowance, and I suspect that an existing customer could get
> that down somewhat. Matt.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nokia phone running open source

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Greati might sit on my hands until one of the mobile carriers
start offering it at a discounted rate as part of a contract...

Thanks for the advice Jamie...

Jamie Bennett wrote:
> Device speed is excellent, you really do have a mini-computer in
> your pocket. Camera is great and of course you can FTP, ssh, and
> use all the other great apps your used to.
>
> But it's pricy compared to other phone/laptop offerings. If it it's
> heavyly subsidied and you bother little for a great _phone_
> experience then why not.
>
> Regards, Jamie. -- http://www.linuxuk.org
>
> On 14 Oct 2009, at 15:29, Paul Roach  wrote:
>
> Thanks Jamie, was just posting a question about how you'd obtained
> yours and then looked at your blog and Alan's comment - all now
> becomes clear!
>
> Another question though ---how do you compare the Android/Maemo
> platforms in terms of speed and open-ness? I'm seriously
> considering a new handset as an early Christmas present to myself,
> and I'd like the device to be as productive as possible for me -
> the ability to use SSH etc at reasonable speed
>
> I've found with recent handsets I use the phone functionality less
> than other features.
>
> Jamie Bennett wrote:
>>>>> IMHO it's the best Internet tablet yet but it's not a great
>>>>> phone at the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Jamie.
>>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nokia phone running open source

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Matt Jones wrote:

> I have seen it for free on a £35/mo contract with a pretty decent
> usage allowance, and I suspect that an existing customer could get
> that down somewhat. Matt.

Matt - can you advise what network/reseller that was with?

Thanks

Paul



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nokia phone running open source

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Thanks Jamie, was just posting a question about how you'd obtained
yours and then looked at your blog and Alan's comment - all now
becomes clear!

Another question though ---how do you compare the Android/Maemo
platforms in terms of speed and open-ness?  I'm seriously considering
a new handset as an early Christmas present to myself, and I'd like
the device to be as productive as possible for me - the ability to use
SSH etc at reasonable speed

I've found with recent handsets I use the phone functionality less
than other features.

Jamie Bennett wrote:
>>
>> IMHO it's the best Internet tablet yet but it's not a great phone
>> at the moment.
>>
>> Regards, Jamie.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Nokia phone running open source

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Just been talking to my account manager with O2, and they have stated
they have no plans to test/release the N900 handset on their network
at this time (and usually they get loads of hype and release dates
well in advance of a launch)

Gutted, as the handset has a debian base and is extremely modifiable.
Depending on whether any other networks start carrying it I might move
over

javadayaz wrote:
>
> Not the n900?
>

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Organising, searching and emailing

[Paul Roach]

You could probably get either SugarCRM or Vtiger to do all of the
above...although you'd need to install a webserver.

You can test with VMware though...there's definitely a Sugar virtual
appliance out there and probably a vtiger one to get a test platform
up quickly...

Hope this helps...


On 17/09/2009, Philip Stubbs  wrote:
> 2009/9/17 Dianne Reuby :
>> Our Volunteer Co-ordinator has returned to Uni, so I'm lumbered again.
>> Except now we have quite a few volunteers to deal with. I want to be
>> able to:
>>
>> * keep their contact details, availability, and skills list
>> * search the list for availability and skills
>> * email those who meet the search requirements (I plan to do mass emails
>> of general news for all volunteers through the website, so I only want
>> to email certain volunteers when necessary)
>>
>> I've been looking at options, but my main problem is that if I get lucky
>> and find another sucker :) to take it over, they'll probably be using
>> Windows so I need something that lets me export the data from Ubuntu if
>> necessary.
>
> How about using Google Docs? Then as long as they have a browser, it
> does not matter much what OS the eventual incumbent uses. Also, you
> can share docs, so multiple people can get involved :-)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless File Server

[Paul Roach]

Another option would be to configure an AP in Bridge Mode - I do this at
home for an un-cableable part of the LAN (my office), it then connects to a
switch for the office and then to the main switch downstairs that is
connected to the media-centre.  The AP's maintain the connection and the
client is wired to the access point, thus eliminating the need to establish
a wireless connection when you want to connect.  A couple of Netgear WG602's
would do this nicely (or a WG602 and another AP) - they're cheap too - about
£45 :)


On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Ian Pascoe
wrote:

> Cheers Rob
>
> That article looks like just the ticket - all I've got to do now is
> understand it!
>
> Ian
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com
> [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com]on Behalf Of Rob Beard
> Sent: 02 August 2009 16:26
> To: British Ubuntu Talk
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wireless File Server
>
>
> Ian Pascoe wrote:
> > Hi Rob
> >
> > Have to admit I did wonder about installing a desktop for this very
> > feature, but it does seem somewhat of an overkill!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Ian
> Yep I agree, I mean for a headless server I'd generally use just the
> server install although I'm not sure how easy it is to configure
> wireless from the command line, never managed to do it myself, but then
> I only have wireless on my notebook.
>
> Doing a quick Google search popped up this...
>
>
> http://modelr.wordpress.com/2009/06/01/how-to-get-wireless-network-on-ubuntu
> -server/
>
> If you card works out of the box without any drivers then you may find
> that this guide works (just skip the ndiswrapper stuff and go straight
> to the WPA section).
>
> Hope this helps, I'd be interested to know if you manage to get it working.
>
> Rob
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help needed with ssh

[Paul Roach]

If you're just talking about copying and pasting text, then
absolutely... It's ctrl+shift+c and ctrl+shift+v in gnome-terminal -
or alternatively highlight text with the mouse and use the middle
mouse button to paste (which also works with anything else in
gnome...not sure about kde!)

On 24/07/2009, Sean Miller  wrote:
> Confused - you can copy and paste to shell, surely?
>
> I'm sure I've done it many times.  In fact I'm absolutely sure!
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help needed with ssh

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On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 3:22 PM, John Matthews  wrote:

>
> I am now finding it frustrating because I cant copy and paste from my
> desktop to the file plus saving what I have done, cant work that one out
> yet, its probably very simple, but I am trying. But at least I have got
> that far.
>
> John - you might want to look at a solution such as Filezilla to copy files
to and from the remote server in a graphical fashion, although this can also
be achieved using Nautilus.

The command line method of doing this would be using scp (e.g. scp
 u...@hostname:/var/www/public_html or whatever your file path is
to the hosting directory).

To copy files before you edit them just
cp filename filename.old

You'll then be able to edit the original file with nano or vi or whatever
you prefer as an editor...

Hope this helps

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help needed with ssh

[Paul Roach]

Just to add to thisthe $ or # denote the type of access you have...

$ means that you have standard shell access, whereas if you see # at the
start of a command you have (or should have) root access.

Obviously in Ubuntu if you are looking for help somewhere and see a command
written as #apt-get install, you can achieve the same using $sudo apt-get
install



On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Sean Miller  wrote:

>
> Hmmm... typing "pwd" will show the current directory.  The "$" is the
> command prompt, it is not part of the command.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help needed with ssh

[Paul Roach]

Hi John,

Other useful commands could include

df (shows disk usage)
pwd (print working directory)
mkdir (makes a directory)

I also find lynx really useful for testing websites from remote
locations and for W3C compliance - just apt-get install lynx then you
should be able to use

lynx http://www.example.com

I pretty much permanently have a copy of o'reillys pocket linux
command line reference attached to me... It's a really useful book,
and you can pick up a copy on ebay for next to nothing...

You can of course also look at the man page to find out command
usages... Just type in

man command

To get an idea of how best to use a command :-)

P

On 13/07/2009, John Matthews  wrote:
> Hi Alan,
>
> Yay, that has helped immensely, I have managed to get into the server
> and can see all the files using sftp. Brilliant. Its really helped
> because I have just noticed why something isnt working.
>
> Amazing, agian you all have been really helpful. I hope I can ask more
> questions.
>
> @Sean.I have added you to my AIM, hope that is ok.
>
> John.
>
> Alan Bell wrote:
>> Hi John,
>> ssh is a secure way of communicating with a remote server. At the most
>> basic level it is like having a terminal session on the remote computer,
>> you can use commands such as "cd" to change directory, "ls" to view the
>> contents of your current directory (same as "dir" in dos) "pwd" to print
>> your current working directory location. "nano index.html" to edit the
>> file called index.html in the current directory.
>> You can also pass other things over the secure tunnel. If you use "sftp
>> j...@remote.host.com" instead of "ssh j...@remote.host.com" then you get
>> a secure ftp-like session where you can put and get files to and from
>> the server. You can also do this graphically in Ubuntu by going to the
>> places menu then connect to server and select ssh from the dropdown. Put
>> in your details then you will be able to browse the remote server over
>> the ssh session and do pretty much anything on it as if it were local.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>> John Matthews wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everybody,
>>>
>>> I am so sorry to ask this, but I was wondering if somebody would be
>>> willing to give me some help with ssh and commands for running a website
>>> via a terminal.
>>>
>>> I have been trying to learn from the websites, but I am not finding it
>>> easy. If somebody could just start by showing me some basic commands, to
>>> start off with, just so I can start, I would really appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> John.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Help needed with ssh

[Paul Roach]

When you say running a website? Doi you mean going to a website via
the command line, using say, lynx, or are you looking to set up a
site.

To ssh, just

ssh u...@ipaddress

Then you will have a console on the remote machine. From there, you
can edit files using nano

nano filename

There are prompts at the bottom of the screen.

When editing a file, it's recommended to copy the file first.

cp file.txt file.txt.backup

Then you can edit the file without worries...

Does this help to get you started..

P

On 13/07/2009, John Matthews  wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> I am so sorry to ask this, but I was wondering if somebody would be
> willing to give me some help with ssh and commands for running a website
> via a terminal.
>
> I have been trying to learn from the websites, but I am not finding it
> easy. If somebody could just start by showing me some basic commands, to
> start off with, just so I can start, I would really appreciate it.
>
> Thank you
>
> John.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Connecting to a network

[Paul Roach]

To be honest, the quickest way to access networked data between linux
boxes is to ensure ssh is enabled, and to open nautilus - in the
address bar type

ssh://usern...@ipaddress

You'll then be asked to log on with credentials on the remote machine
(assuming you don't use key-based authentication)...

Samba is really designed for interoperability between Windows and *nix
boxes...there are several methods of sharing files natively though.
You might also want to read up on NFS

Hope this helps

On 11/07/2009, David King  wrote:
> I do have another problem, with the network.
>
> I have put my Asus EeePC running Xandros on the network, and I want to
> connect to it from my Ubuntu PC and vice versa.
> I have installed samba on Ubuntu, plus gadmin-samba, and Firestarter.
>
> I have tried to set up the file sharing so that the Asus can access my
> home directory, and so that Ubuntu can access the Asus home directory.
>
> But when trying to access Asus from Ubuntu, it asks for a username,
> domain and password. But when I entered the Asus username, the PC name,
> and the password, it would not connect. Error message: "Unable to mount
> location. Failed to mount Windows share."
>
> And from the Asus, when I try to connect to the Ubuntu PC, I get an
> error saying "No route to host".
>
> I have used networking successfully in the past. It was not difficult at
> all in Windows XP, 2000 and 98 (although I found it to be impossible in
> Windows ME).
>
> I then started using Xandros, and networking with that was very easy. I
> have also networked PCs running other Linux distros, but when it comes
> to Ubuntu, I just cannot get it to work. I have tried in 7.10, 8.04 and
> now 9.04 -- I always get no access to other PCs on the network from
> Ubuntu, and no access to Ubuntu from other PCs. However, I can access my
> NAS okay from Ubuntu (as mentioned earlier, below).
>
> So why is networking in Ubuntu so very difficult to set up? What is the
> magic thing I need to enter to make it work? Other distros make it much
> easier. Ubuntu did not even have Samba installed by default, so I fear I
> may still need to install another piece of software to make it all work.
>
> Firestarter is set up to allow incoming traffic to all using Samba, and
> I specified the network by IP (192.168.0.2-192.168.0.255) and by name.
>
> And when I try to access the Ubuntu network share via Network in
> Nautilus, which I should be able to do as it is the PC I am accessing it
> from, I get an error saying "Unable to mount location. Failed to
> retrieve share list from server."
>
>
> So how do I get networking/filesharing working in Ubuntu?
>
>
> David King
>
>
>
>
> David King wrote:
>> Thanks, Matthew, that worked perfectly. I have saved it in a script so
>> that I can mount the NAS from the CLI when I need to use it, and have
>> full read-write access.
>>
>>
>> David King
>>
>>
>> Matthew Daubney wrote:
>>


>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> You need to tell the mount line to override the uid and gid of the
>>> files. This can be done with the options switch on the mount line like:
>>>
>>> sudo mount -t cifs '//192.168.0.4/DISK 1' /media/nas1 -o
>>> uid=1000,gid=1000
>>>
>>> You'll need to look up the id for your user and your group, you can find
>>> that info in /etc/group, which will look like "yourgroupname:x:gid:" and
>>> in /etc/passwd.
>>>
>>> If you're the first user they'll probab;y both be 1000.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps!
>>>
>>> -Matt Daubney
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Friend managed to start virtual box kernel with grub

[Paul Roach]

To install and run virtualbox, you need the appropriate kernel modules
in order for it to run correctly, although this should just add
hardware compatibility for his VM's and shouldn't remove any hardware
support.

Was there any unusual content in /var/log/messages? Did he use any
guides when installing VirtualBox?

On 10/07/2009, Kris Douglas  wrote:
> Hello everyone, I was just wondering if I could get some information
> on some of the events that have recently transpired. My mate has
> recently tried to install virtual box on his pc, succeeding in this
> task, he booted his pc to see his X server had loaded default drivers,
> and his mouse and network had stopped working, when I checked the
> kernel version it has gone from 2.6.28-13-generic to 2.6.28-13-server.
> How the bloody hell can this happen, the pc was booting a virtual
> kernel, which was then loading up as it would on a normal
> installI've fixed it by removing this virtual kernel, but can
> anyone shed any light on this?
>
> thanks,
>
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] The Stolen Earth

[Paul Roach]

On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Johnathon Tinsley wrote:

>
>
> If only I had the time, money, and knowledge, it would be so cool to
> build a Darlek actually running Ubuntu. Fit-pc[1], plug pc, or something
> like that... That and my 9 year old cousin would love it if he could
> make it do stuff, and record it's voice ;-)
>
>
> Why not - there's already a dalek webcam on the market!

http://www.slipperybrick.com/2007/10/dalek-webcam/

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