Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
I can have a crack at the Google maps API if anybody wants me to. just a case of making a php page that gives the api a list of locations from a database and a form to add to the database Jacob Mansfield Programmer -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
On Mon, 2010-10-18 at 15:18 +0100, Isabell Long wrote: > On 18 October 2010 15:16, Alan Pope wrote: > > On 18 October 2010 15:15, Isabell Long > > wrote: > >> On 18 October 2010 15:09, Alan Bell wrote: > >>> The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org > >> > >> It just spits out FATAL ERROR, now. Just in case you hadn't realised. :-) > >> > > > > Doesn't here. Screenshot pls. > > Oh. Working again now. Must just have been momentary. :-) At the moment, I get this at the top of the page: Warning: split() expects parameter 2 to be string, array given in /srv/beta.ubuntu-uk.org/www/wp-content/plugins/osm/osm.php on line 212 The rest of it looks good. Bruno -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
I don't like the fact that because of the "explosion" graphic on the top left, I have to read "at Is Untu-UK ?" rather than "What Is Ubuntu-UK?" obscuring text with graphics is not something I'd ever do, and the black and white bits emitted from the explosion do this. The graphic top left is far too large and obstrusive anyway... make it smaller and more subtle. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
kind of, yes the API changed, but Canonical had a premium subscription allowing them to do Google maps over https this expired about a year ago and mysteriously kept on working. Apparently it is rather expensive to renew the https deal and as launchpad is always https and not http (for reasons that escape me) they can't use the free API. We totally can incorporate our own Google maps thingamagig. Would be nice to do Open Street Map, I think we will go for whichever one that someone wants to actually knuckle down and do. Alan. Agree, should be Open Streetmap. There seem to be a bunch of plugins - I don't mind fiddling with it - I'll have a look towards the end of the week. Paula -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
On 18/10/10 16:51, Tony Scott wrote: > Alan > > Yes you're right - there are in fact Ubuntu/Canonical web design guidelines > in > the pdf linked from here > > http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/guides-for-websites/ > > I would use the page header top level nav detailed in the pdf - so it's > similar > to > > http://www.ubuntu.com/ > > http://design.canonical.com/ > > You can then put links to section such as blog, about, etc on the left hand > side > in the top level nav as in the above sites. > > If you're going to have a standard right hand column throughout the site I > would > put the podcast logo/link in there, as I think the podcast logo is too > dominant > on the beta. > > I could do some work on this, but I'm currently busy on other stuff. > > Cheers > > -- > Tony Scott > http://tonyscott.org.uk | http://twitter.com/tonys | http://uk.wordcamp.org > there are lots of design guidelines in the design team toolkit, some of them contradicting each other. I have read them all, plus some draft ones they asked me to review. Personally I like the Captain Jack Sparrow approach to the design toolkit. More of a guideline than an actual law as such. Arrr Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
Alan Yes you're right - there are in fact Ubuntu/Canonical web design guidelines in the pdf linked from here http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/guides-for-websites/ I would use the page header top level nav detailed in the pdf - so it's similar to http://www.ubuntu.com/ http://design.canonical.com/ You can then put links to section such as blog, about, etc on the left hand side in the top level nav as in the above sites. If you're going to have a standard right hand column throughout the site I would put the podcast logo/link in there, as I think the podcast logo is too dominant on the beta. I could do some work on this, but I'm currently busy on other stuff. Cheers -- Tony Scott http://tonyscott.org.uk | http://twitter.com/tonys | http://uk.wordcamp.org - Original Message > From: Alan Bell > To: UK Ubuntu Talk > Sent: Mon, 18 October, 2010 16:06:35 > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website > > On 18/10/10 15:51, Tony Scott wrote: > > I'd swap the ubuntu-uk logo to the left, and the podcast logo to the right. > > > > When I first went to the beta site, it immediately gave the impression of >being > > a site about the podcast. > > > > Most users, I suspect, expect the site logo to be left aligned, as a >convention > > built up over a number of years. > > > > What does everyone else think? > > > >-- > > Tony Scott > > http://tonyscott.org.uk | http://twitter.com/tonys | http://uk.wordcamp.org > > > interesting point, the Ubuntu logo tends to go on the right these days > (see http://ubuntu.com for example) and the podcast logo was on the left > before. I messed about with the gimp to do the bursty thing, if someone > has more graphic design skills than me then we can certainly do > something else with it. I was thinking of more of a page peel effect, > but I couldn't figure out how to do that. > > Alan. > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
On 18/10/10 16:36, John Stevenson wrote: > > > I hope Chris is just being polite when he says a wee bit smaller. To > me the podcast logo completely dominates the whole page and I find it > hard to look anywhere else. The logo is even more intense on a netbook. OK, so it sucks. It was an idea, clearly it doesn't work that well. How can we make it suck less? > > The Ubuntu-UK logo would be fine on the right hand side if there was > nothing on the left, as with the Ubuntu.com site. Probably. > > I am afraid the podcast logo hypertext link even encroaches on the > text around the logo - so clicking on the text "What is Ubuntu-UK" or > "Who is this group four ?" takes you to the podcast page. yeah, it is a transparent PNG with a div below it to push the text somewhat out of the way, but without looking too boxy and square. It doesn't work that well does it. > > I am interested to see want content is exposed on the site, I assuming > that the content on there is currently a strawman for ideas as its > basically the same as the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam site. oh yes, the current content is just pasted in to allow design work on the theme, things like discussing in #ubuntu-accessibility to make sure that the text contrast is acceptable for low vision users etc. (it wasn't, I fixed it) > > Do we all share the same idea of what our main audience is for the > site? Is this for people who are already part of Ubuntu UK or is it > also for the general public? It suggests on etherpad that this site > is mainly a resource for the team by my reading. the etherpad is for writing as well as reading! If you have ideas on who the audience is then slap them down. I kind of see it as useful to the general public as well as for the team. Alan. -- Alan Bell The Open Learning Centre Web: http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com Mob: +44 (0)7738 789190 Tel: +44 (0)844 3576000 The Open Learning Centre is a trading name of Bell Lord Ltd, a company registered in England and Wales #05868943. VAT Registration #GB 901 4715 55 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
On 18 October 2010 16:11, Chris Rowson wrote: > >> I'd swap the ubuntu-uk logo to the left, and the podcast logo to the > right. > >> > >> When I first went to the beta site, it immediately gave the impression > of being > >> a site about the podcast. > >> > >> Most users, I suspect, expect the site logo to be left aligned, as a > convention > >> built up over a number of years. > >> > >> What does everyone else think? > >> > >> -- > >> Tony Scott > >> http://tonyscott.org.uk | http://twitter.com/tonys | > http://uk.wordcamp.org > >> > > interesting point, the Ubuntu logo tends to go on the right these days > > (see http://ubuntu.com for example) and the podcast logo was on the left > > before. I messed about with the gimp to do the bursty thing, if someone > > has more graphic design skills than me then we can certainly do > > something else with it. I was thinking of more of a page peel effect, > > but I couldn't figure out how to do that. > > > > Alan. > > > > It might be an idea to make the ubuntu-uk podcast logo a wee bit > smaller. At first glance I thought it was a site about the ubuntu-uk > podcast too ;-) In fact, what would it look like somewhere else? > > Chris > I hope Chris is just being polite when he says a wee bit smaller. To me the podcast logo completely dominates the whole page and I find it hard to look anywhere else. The logo is even more intense on a netbook. The Ubuntu-UK logo would be fine on the right hand side if there was nothing on the left, as with the Ubuntu.com site. I am afraid the podcast logo hypertext link even encroaches on the text around the logo - so clicking on the text "What is Ubuntu-UK" or "Who is this group four ?" takes you to the podcast page. I am interested to see want content is exposed on the site, I assuming that the content on there is currently a strawman for ideas as its basically the same as the http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam site. Do we all share the same idea of what our main audience is for the site? Is this for people who are already part of Ubuntu UK or is it also for the general public? It suggests on etherpad that this site is mainly a resource for the team by my reading. Thank you. -- John Stevenson Lean Agile Consultant / Coach jr0cket.com | leanagilemachine.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
On 18/10/10 16:11, Chris Rowson wrote: > It might be an idea to make the ubuntu-uk podcast logo a wee bit > smaller. At first glance I thought it was a site about the ubuntu-uk > podcast too ;-) In fact, what would it look like somewhere else? dunno really, hop on to http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/website and join in the chat bit on the right and we can throw it about a few different places and see what happens Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
>> I'd swap the ubuntu-uk logo to the left, and the podcast logo to the right. >> >> When I first went to the beta site, it immediately gave the impression of >> being >> a site about the podcast. >> >> Most users, I suspect, expect the site logo to be left aligned, as a >> convention >> built up over a number of years. >> >> What does everyone else think? >> >> -- >> Tony Scott >> http://tonyscott.org.uk | http://twitter.com/tonys | http://uk.wordcamp.org >> > interesting point, the Ubuntu logo tends to go on the right these days > (see http://ubuntu.com for example) and the podcast logo was on the left > before. I messed about with the gimp to do the bursty thing, if someone > has more graphic design skills than me then we can certainly do > something else with it. I was thinking of more of a page peel effect, > but I couldn't figure out how to do that. > > Alan. > It might be an idea to make the ubuntu-uk podcast logo a wee bit smaller. At first glance I thought it was a site about the ubuntu-uk podcast too ;-) In fact, what would it look like somewhere else? Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
On 18/10/10 15:51, Tony Scott wrote: > I'd swap the ubuntu-uk logo to the left, and the podcast logo to the right. > > When I first went to the beta site, it immediately gave the impression of > being > a site about the podcast. > > Most users, I suspect, expect the site logo to be left aligned, as a > convention > built up over a number of years. > > What does everyone else think? > > -- > Tony Scott > http://tonyscott.org.uk | http://twitter.com/tonys | http://uk.wordcamp.org > interesting point, the Ubuntu logo tends to go on the right these days (see http://ubuntu.com for example) and the podcast logo was on the left before. I messed about with the gimp to do the bursty thing, if someone has more graphic design skills than me then we can certainly do something else with it. I was thinking of more of a page peel effect, but I couldn't figure out how to do that. Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
On 18/10/10 15:56, Mark Fraser wrote: On Monday 18 Oct 2010 15:09:37 Alan Bell wrote: > > This would of course be an ideal vehicle for doing something fancy with > a map and all the where are we type information that has been discussed > recently. There was a frappr map, but their dotcom bubble has burst and > frappr is no more, also Launchpad maps have been turned off Was that due to the Google maps API changing? If so, we could always incorporate our own as shown on http://code.google.com/apis/maps/index.html. kind of, yes the API changed, but Canonical had a premium subscription allowing them to do Google maps over https this expired about a year ago and mysteriously kept on working. Apparently it is rather expensive to renew the https deal and as launchpad is always https and not http (for reasons that escape me) they can't use the free API. We totally can incorporate our own Google maps thingamagig. Would be nice to do Open Street Map, I think we will go for whichever one that someone wants to actually knuckle down and do. Alan. -- Alan Bell The Open Learning Centre Web: http://www.theopenlearningcentre.com Mob: +44 (0)7738 789190 Tel: +44 (0)844 3576000 The Open Learning Centre is a trading name of Bell Lord Ltd, a company registered in England and Wales #05868943. VAT Registration #GB 901 4715 55 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
On 18/10/10 15:44, Liam Gallear wrote: > I agree, looks nice and clean. > > Is it just going to be the single page or will there be more added? > > Regards, > > Liam Gallear > Loads more to add, just trying to get the sidebar to display on pages at the moment, it does on posts. It can do a blog like news function, as well as having lots of pages like a content management system. Throw in your ideas and lets make them happen. This page: http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org/2010/09/29/announcing-the-new-ubuntu-uk-org/ has the sidebar on it and I will turn that on for all pages just as soon as I figure out what is turning it off. Alan. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
On Monday 18 Oct 2010 15:09:37 Alan Bell wrote: > > This would of course be an ideal vehicle for doing something fancy with > a map and all the where are we type information that has been discussed > recently. There was a frappr map, but their dotcom bubble has burst and > frappr is no more, also Launchpad maps have been turned off Was that due to the Google maps API changing? If so, we could always incorporate our own as shown on http://code.google.com/apis/maps/index.html. > , so our > various previous maps of where people are seem to have gone. Some kind > of Wordpress/Openstreetmap integration thingie would be fantastic and > something we can give to other LoCos around the world so they have an > answer to the question "what did the British ever do for us?" -- Registered Linux User #466407 http://counter.li.org -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
I'd swap the ubuntu-uk logo to the left, and the podcast logo to the right. When I first went to the beta site, it immediately gave the impression of being a site about the podcast. Most users, I suspect, expect the site logo to be left aligned, as a convention built up over a number of years. What does everyone else think? -- Tony Scott http://tonyscott.org.uk | http://twitter.com/tonys | http://uk.wordcamp.org - Original Message > From: Liam Gallear > To: UK Ubuntu Talk > Sent: Mon, 18 October, 2010 15:44:15 > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website > > I agree, looks nice and clean. > > Is it just going to be the single page or will there be more added? > > Regards, > > Liam Gallear > > On 18 Oct 2010, at 15:35, Paul Sutton wrote: > > > On 18/10/10 15:09, Alan Bell wrote: > >> I have been working with Dave Walker and Alan Pope on a new website > >> for the team, based on the new Ubuntu branding and using Wordpress.org > >> as the platform. The idea is that this will be a hub linking to our > >> other resources including our area of the Ubuntu wiki at > >> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam but also to content and features that > >> don't naturally fit so well in the wiki. > >> The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org > >> (not much actual content there yet) and the brainstorming document is here: > >> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/website > >> > > > > > > Looks nice :) > > > > > > -- > > 16th October - White Hart - Holsworthy 14:00 start > > 23rd October - Exwick Community Centre 14:00 > > 6th November - Paignton Library 13:30 start > > 17th September 2011 - Software freedom day > > > > > > -- > > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
I agree, looks nice and clean. Is it just going to be the single page or will there be more added? Regards, Liam Gallear On 18 Oct 2010, at 15:35, Paul Sutton wrote: > On 18/10/10 15:09, Alan Bell wrote: >> I have been working with Dave Walker and Alan Pope on a new website >> for the team, based on the new Ubuntu branding and using Wordpress.org >> as the platform. The idea is that this will be a hub linking to our >> other resources including our area of the Ubuntu wiki at >> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam but also to content and features that >> don't naturally fit so well in the wiki. >> The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org >> (not much actual content there yet) and the brainstorming document is here: >> http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/website >> > > > Looks nice :) > > > -- > 16th October - White Hart - Holsworthy 14:00 start > 23rd October - Exwick Community Centre 14:00 > 6th November - Paignton Library 13:30 start > 17th September 2011 - Software freedom day > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
On 18/10/10 15:09, Alan Bell wrote: > I have been working with Dave Walker and Alan Pope on a new website > for the team, based on the new Ubuntu branding and using Wordpress.org > as the platform. The idea is that this will be a hub linking to our > other resources including our area of the Ubuntu wiki at > http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam but also to content and features that > don't naturally fit so well in the wiki. > The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org > (not much actual content there yet) and the brainstorming document is here: > http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/website > Looks nice :) -- 16th October - White Hart - Holsworthy 14:00 start 23rd October - Exwick Community Centre 14:00 6th November - Paignton Library 13:30 start 17th September 2011 - Software freedom day -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
On 18/10/2010 15:16, Alan Pope wrote: > On 18 October 2010 15:15, Isabell Long > wrote: >> On 18 October 2010 15:09, Alan Bell wrote: >>> The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org >> >> It just spits out FATAL ERROR, now. Just in case you hadn't realised. :-) >> > > Doesn't here. Screenshot pls. > > Al. > It works fine for me, it looks good, nice and clean and fresh looking. Dave -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
On 18 October 2010 15:16, Alan Pope wrote: > On 18 October 2010 15:15, Isabell Long > wrote: >> On 18 October 2010 15:09, Alan Bell wrote: >>> The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org >> >> It just spits out FATAL ERROR, now. Just in case you hadn't realised. :-) >> > > Doesn't here. Screenshot pls. Oh. Working again now. Must just have been momentary. :-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
On 18 October 2010 15:15, Isabell Long wrote: > On 18 October 2010 15:09, Alan Bell wrote: >> The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org > > It just spits out FATAL ERROR, now. Just in case you hadn't realised. :-) > Doesn't here. Screenshot pls. Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
On 18 October 2010 15:09, Alan Bell wrote: > The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org It just spits out FATAL ERROR, now. Just in case you hadn't realised. :-) -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] The new Ubuntu-UK website
I have been working with Dave Walker and Alan Pope on a new website for the team, based on the new Ubuntu branding and using Wordpress.org as the platform. The idea is that this will be a hub linking to our other resources including our area of the Ubuntu wiki at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam but also to content and features that don't naturally fit so well in the wiki. The preview of the new website design is at http://beta.ubuntu-uk.org (not much actual content there yet) and the brainstorming document is here: http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/website This would of course be an ideal vehicle for doing something fancy with a map and all the where are we type information that has been discussed recently. There was a frappr map, but their dotcom bubble has burst and frappr is no more, also Launchpad maps have been turned off, so our various previous maps of where people are seem to have gone. Some kind of Wordpress/Openstreetmap integration thingie would be fantastic and something we can give to other LoCos around the world so they have an answer to the question "what did the British ever do for us?" Do dive in with your ideas, and we have a team meeting tomorrow night at 9PM where some, all, or none of them might be discussed. The agenda for the meeting is in the traditional place at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeamMeetingAgenda and you can join the meeting with an IRC client, or with a browser: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-uk-meeting%2Cubuntu-uk&uio=OT10cnVlJjEwPXRydWUmMTE9Mjg3JjEyPXRydWU5c Alan -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
