Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing etc ....

2011-11-06 Thread Andres

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  On 4 November 2011 21:46, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com
  wrote:
  
   Hi there .      I've been doing some work on video editing and
   making video DVDs.    I've found that Kino is the only app with
   firewire video capure.    This produces great raw dv files from the
   capture.    If I use Kino to edit, and then export the result, I get
   a very badly rendered output except when I choose QuickTime DV as
   the output format.    This behaves well, and gives me a file that I
   can work well with.
   
   I now find that I am making an edited DV file using Kino, and using
   DeVeDe to burn a Video DVD.    I have tried all the other video
   editing apps including PiTiVi and they either crash when a large (1
   hour) clip is used, or they give poorly rendered output.    I am
   wanting Video DVD quality resolution.    Anyone else found this kind
   of problem?
   
  
  
  Generally speaking, DVDs will be divided into shorter chapters which
  are individual files in the build process. Converting an hour long
  video file wlll make the average machine struggle as DVD conversion
  will use a lot of space as most of it's done in memory and
  consequently swap. Look at a DVD as a filesystem and you'll see
  multiple files that are linked by index files.
  
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 thanks for that! I finally know why i couldn't record a 2Gb ogg video.
 It only gave me a warning saying it would be some sort of ISO standard
 that would not work. I didn't care. But then it would not finish the
 dvd. I used openshot.

*That would not work on a mac. Said it was fine for most linux and windows.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing etc ....

2011-11-06 Thread Barry Drake

On 04/11/11 22:37, Simon Greenwood wrote:
Generally speaking, DVDs will be divided into shorter chapters which 
are individual files in the build process. Converting an hour long 
video file wlll make the average machine struggle as DVD conversion 
will use a lot of space as most of it's done in memory and 
consequently swap. Look at a DVD as a filesystem and you'll see 
multiple files that are linked by index files.
Thanks.  I'll split the original captures into short scenes and see if I 
can get rendering to take place with any of the applications that 
crash.  Maybe I'll find some better codecs for the task.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing etc ....

2011-11-05 Thread Andres

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- Mensaje original -
 On 4 November 2011 21:46, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote:
 
  Hi there .     I've been doing some work on video editing and making
  video DVDs.   I've found that Kino is the only app with firewire video
  capure.   This produces great raw dv files from the capture.   If I use
  Kino to edit, and then export the result, I get a very badly rendered
  output except when I choose QuickTime DV as the output format.   This
  behaves well, and gives me a file that I can work well with.
  
  I now find that I am making an edited DV file using Kino, and using
  DeVeDe to burn a Video DVD.   I have tried all the other video editing
  apps including PiTiVi and they either crash when a large (1 hour) clip
  is used, or they give poorly rendered output.   I am wanting Video DVD
  quality resolution.   Anyone else found this kind of problem?
  
 
 
 Generally speaking, DVDs will be divided into shorter chapters which are
 individual files in the build process. Converting an hour long video file
 wlll make the average machine struggle as DVD conversion will use a lot
 of space as most of it's done in memory and consequently swap. Look at a
 DVD as a filesystem and you'll see multiple files that are linked by
 index files.
 
 s/
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thanks for that! I finally know why i couldn't record a 2Gb ogg video. It only 
gave me a warning saying it would be some sort of ISO standard that would not 
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[ubuntu-uk] Video editing etc ....

2011-11-04 Thread Barry Drake
Hi there .   I've been doing some work on video editing and making 
video DVDs.  I've found that Kino is the only app with firewire video 
capure.  This produces great raw dv files from the capture.  If I use 
Kino to edit, and then export the result, I get a very badly rendered 
output except when I choose QuickTime DV as the output format.  This 
behaves well, and gives me a file that I can work well with.


I now find that I am making an edited DV file using Kino, and using 
DeVeDe to burn a Video DVD.  I have tried all the other video editing 
apps including PiTiVi and they either crash when a large (1 hour) clip 
is used, or they give poorly rendered output.  I am wanting Video DVD 
quality resolution.  Anyone else found this kind of problem?


Regards,Barry.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing etc ....

2011-11-04 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 4 November 2011 21:46, Barry Drake ubuntu-advertis...@gmx.com wrote:

 Hi there .   I've been doing some work on video editing and making
 video DVDs.  I've found that Kino is the only app with firewire video
 capure.  This produces great raw dv files from the capture.  If I use Kino
 to edit, and then export the result, I get a very badly rendered output
 except when I choose QuickTime DV as the output format.  This behaves well,
 and gives me a file that I can work well with.

 I now find that I am making an edited DV file using Kino, and using DeVeDe
 to burn a Video DVD.  I have tried all the other video editing apps
 including PiTiVi and they either crash when a large (1 hour) clip is used,
 or they give poorly rendered output.  I am wanting Video DVD quality
 resolution.  Anyone else found this kind of problem?



Generally speaking, DVDs will be divided into shorter chapters which are
individual files in the build process. Converting an hour long video file
wlll make the average machine struggle as DVD conversion will use a lot of
space as most of it's done in memory and consequently swap. Look at a DVD
as a filesystem and you'll see multiple files that are linked by index
files.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing was Tesco Home ........

2010-07-06 Thread Rob Beard
On 06/07/10 16:03, Barry Drake wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 07:32 +0100, Andy Dixon wrote:
 I myself have created videos using Ubuntu, and found it to be as easy
 as doing it on a Mac.

 That interests me.  I'm thinking of doing a motherboard upgrade on my
 main computer to make video editing a bit faster.  I intend using
 Ubuntu.  What apps are you using?  Currently I've played with Kino and a
 couple of others, but so far have done no real work.  Recommendations
 welcome.


There is the PiTiVi Video Editor in Ubuntu 10.04.  Not used it much but 
it looks fairly reasonable, maybe not too advanced but it worked with 
the videos from my HD video camera which was handy (okay I had to 
install some GStreamer codecs but once they were installed it seemed to 
work OK).

Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing was Tesco Home ........

2010-07-06 Thread Grant Sewell
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:22:42 +0100
Rob Beard wrote:

 On 06/07/10 16:03, Barry Drake wrote:
  On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 07:32 +0100, Andy Dixon wrote:
  I myself have created videos using Ubuntu, and found it to be as
  easy as doing it on a Mac.
 
  That interests me.  I'm thinking of doing a motherboard upgrade on
  my main computer to make video editing a bit faster.  I intend using
  Ubuntu.  What apps are you using?  Currently I've played with Kino
  and a couple of others, but so far have done no real work.
  Recommendations welcome.
 
 
 There is the PiTiVi Video Editor in Ubuntu 10.04.  Not used it much
 but it looks fairly reasonable, maybe not too advanced but it worked
 with the videos from my HD video camera which was handy (okay I had
 to install some GStreamer codecs but once they were installed it
 seemed to work OK).
 
 Rob

I have played around with OpenShot (www.openshotvideo.com) and got some
good results from it, and Lombard (www.yorba.org) looks promising too.

Grant.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing was Tesco Home ........

2010-07-06 Thread Barry Drake
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 16:22 +0100, Rob Beard wrote:
 There is the PiTiVi Video Editor in Ubuntu 10.04.  Not used it much but 
 it looks fairly reasonable, maybe not too advanced but it worked with 
 the videos from my HD video camera which was handy (okay I had to 
 install some GStreamer codecs but once they were installed it seemed to 
 work OK).

Thanks for that.  I'll give it a try when I ge around to doing some
editing.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing was Tesco Home ........

2010-07-06 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:22:42 +0100, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:

 On 06/07/10 16:03, Barry Drake wrote:
  On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 07:32 +0100, Andy Dixon wrote:
  I myself have created videos using Ubuntu, and found it to be as 
  easy as doing it on a Mac.
 
  That interests me.  I'm thinking of doing a motherboard upgrade on 
  my main computer to make video editing a bit faster.  I intend using
  Ubuntu.  What apps are you using?  Currently I've played with Kino 
  and a couple of others, but so far have done no real work. 
  Recommendations welcome.
 
 There is the PiTiVi Video Editor in Ubuntu 10.04.  Not used it much
 but it looks fairly reasonable, maybe not too advanced but it worked
 with the videos from my HD video camera which was handy (okay I had to
 install some GStreamer codecs but once they were installed it seemed
 to work OK). Rob

Well, I have never been able to get PiTiVi to work, and I have it just
as it comes, ready installed in Ubuntu 10.04. I should like to be able
to make simple music videos and put them on YouTube, so that I can then
paste them into my blog. But every time I drag and drop an MP3 file into
PiTiVi, it says it is unable to open it. I tried asking about this on
the PiTiVi forum but I didn't have any replies last time I looked. A
detailed list of necessary codecs would be welcome, and it would be
interesting to know whether the Ubuntu team at Canonical are aware of
any issues with it. Rowan


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing was Tesco Home ........

2010-07-06 Thread Rob Beard
On 06/07/10 16:55, Rowan Berkeley wrote:
 On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:22:42 +0100, Rob Beardr...@esdelle.co.uk  wrote:

 On 06/07/10 16:03, Barry Drake wrote:
 On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 07:32 +0100, Andy Dixon wrote:
 I myself have created videos using Ubuntu, and found it to be as
 easy as doing it on a Mac.

 That interests me.  I'm thinking of doing a motherboard upgrade on
 my main computer to make video editing a bit faster.  I intend using
 Ubuntu.  What apps are you using?  Currently I've played with Kino
 and a couple of others, but so far have done no real work.
 Recommendations welcome.

 There is the PiTiVi Video Editor in Ubuntu 10.04.  Not used it much
 but it looks fairly reasonable, maybe not too advanced but it worked
 with the videos from my HD video camera which was handy (okay I had to
 install some GStreamer codecs but once they were installed it seemed
 to work OK). Rob

 Well, I have never been able to get PiTiVi to work, and I have it just
 as it comes, ready installed in Ubuntu 10.04. I should like to be able
 to make simple music videos and put them on YouTube, so that I can then
 paste them into my blog. But every time I drag and drop an MP3 file into
 PiTiVi, it says it is unable to open it. I tried asking about this on
 the PiTiVi forum but I didn't have any replies last time I looked. A
 detailed list of necessary codecs would be welcome, and it would be
 interesting to know whether the Ubuntu team at Canonical are aware of
 any issues with it. Rowan



Well I dragged and dropped and MP3 in and it worked fine, although I 
can't figure out how to add titles (I'll have to play further).

I believe I have the ubuntu-restricted-extras package installed.  Are 
you able to play the MP3 files in the Ubuntu Movie Player? (I had the 
issue where it wouldn't import videos from my video camera, and then 
when I tried to play them in Movie Player it prompted to install the 
correct codecs).

I haven't looked at the PiTiVi forums yet, I did post a bug response 
about the unhelpful message about not being able to find a specific 
codec rather than it prompting to install them but I was asked to 
suggest it as a feature.  Guess it was just a bug to me (thinking about 
it, I guess it might be more of a feature request).

Rob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing was Tesco Home ........

2010-07-06 Thread John Stevenson
On 6 July 2010 16:55, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:22:42 +0100, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk wrote:

  On 06/07/10 16:03, Barry Drake wrote:
   On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 07:32 +0100, Andy Dixon wrote:
   I myself have created videos using Ubuntu, and found it to be as
   easy as doing it on a Mac.
  
   That interests me.  I'm thinking of doing a motherboard upgrade on
   my main computer to make video editing a bit faster.  I intend using
   Ubuntu.  What apps are you using?  Currently I've played with Kino
   and a couple of others, but so far have done no real work.
   Recommendations welcome.
 
  There is the PiTiVi Video Editor in Ubuntu 10.04.  Not used it much
  but it looks fairly reasonable, maybe not too advanced but it worked
  with the videos from my HD video camera which was handy (okay I had to
  install some GStreamer codecs but once they were installed it seemed
  to work OK). Rob

 Well, I have never been able to get PiTiVi to work, and I have it just
 as it comes, ready installed in Ubuntu 10.04. I should like to be able
 to make simple music videos and put them on YouTube, so that I can then
 paste them into my blog. But every time I drag and drop an MP3 file into
 PiTiVi, it says it is unable to open it. I tried asking about this on
 the PiTiVi forum but I didn't have any replies last time I looked. A
 detailed list of necessary codecs would be welcome, and it would be
 interesting to know whether the Ubuntu team at Canonical are aware of
 any issues with it. Rowan


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I imagine you need the right codecs installed for mp3, as they are not part
of the default ubuntu install (due to distribution restrictions, patents,
yuck..).

You could try install the Gstreamer plugin that supports mp3, one of the
following should do:

gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing was Tesco Home ........

2010-07-06 Thread Andy Dixon
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 17:41 +0100, John Stevenson wrote:

 
 
 
 I imagine you need the right codecs installed for mp3, as they are not
 part of the default ubuntu install (due to distribution restrictions,
 patents, yuck..).
 
 You could try install the Gstreamer plugin that supports mp3, one of
 the following should do:
 
 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
 gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
 gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse


Ah yes.. I can confirm that you do need these, as I had the same issue
trying to add the 'Benny Hill' music to a video clip. Not exactly PC,
but was a good laugh..

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing was Tesco Home ........

2010-07-06 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 17:41:41 +0100, John Stevenson j...@jr0cket.com
wrote:

 On 6 July 2010 16:55, Rowan Berkeley rowan.berke...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:22:42 +0100, Rob Beard r...@esdelle.co.uk 
  wrote:
   On 06/07/10 16:03, Barry Drake wrote:
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 07:32 +0100, Andy Dixon wrote:
I myself have created videos using Ubuntu, and found it to be 
as easy as doing it on a Mac.
That interests me.  I'm thinking of doing a motherboard upgrade 
on my main computer to make video editing a bit faster.  I 
intend using Ubuntu.  What apps are you using?  Currently I've 
played with Kino and a couple of others, but so far have done 
no real work. Recommendations welcome.
   There is the PiTiVi Video Editor in Ubuntu 10.04.  Not used it 
   much but it looks fairly reasonable, maybe not too advanced but  
   it worked with the videos from my HD video camera which was handy 
   (okay I had to install some GStreamer codecs but once they were 
   installed it seemed to work OK). Rob
  Well, I have never been able to get PiTiVi to work, and I have it 
  just as it comes, ready installed in Ubuntu 10.04. I should like to 
  be able to make simple music videos and put them on YouTube, so 
  that I can then paste them into my blog. But every time I drag and 
  drop an MP3 file into PiTiVi, it says it is unable to open it. I 
  tried asking about this on the PiTiVi forum but I didn't have any 
  replies last time I looked. A detailed list of necessary codecs 
  would be welcome, and it would be interesting to know whether the 
  Ubuntu team at Canonical are aware of any issues with it. Rowan
 I imagine you need the right codecs installed for mp3, as they are not
 part of the default ubuntu install (due to distribution restrictions,
 patents, yuck..). You could try install the Gstreamer plugin that
 supports mp3, one of the following should do:
 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
 gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
 gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad
 gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multiverse 
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Success! I installed the two missing sets (the multiverse variants) and
successfully made a little music video, uploaded it, and embedded it on
my blog, all without a hitch. First time I've ever managed that, and I
have been trying on and off for years. Thanks! Rowan


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[ubuntu-uk] Video Editing - AVID?

2008-02-02 Thread Sean Miller
Anybody any ideas with OSS and/or Linux for this friend from Glastonbury?

Thanks in advance.

Sean

=
i have an external hard drive with a bunch of video footage from the
sunrise festival to be edited - it has been captured in avid , the
file are not compatable with my editing program - adobe cs3
i have downloaded and installed avid dv to import thyem and export
them as an avi file, but it is incompatible with my video card

agh

its a frustrating week for me computerwise
does anyone here use avid and could convert the files for me or have
any solution?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing - AVID?

2008-02-02 Thread Alan Pope

On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 20:08 +, Sean Miller wrote:
 i have an external hard drive with a bunch of video footage from the
 sunrise festival to be edited - it has been captured in avid , the
 file are not compatable with my editing program - adobe cs3
 i have downloaded and installed avid dv to import thyem and export
 them as an avi file, but it is incompatible with my video card
 
 agh
 
 its a frustrating week for me computerwise
 does anyone here use avid and could convert the files for me or have
 any solution?
 :)

WinFF?

It seems to be able to convert pretty much anything to anything.

http://biggmatt.com/winff/

It's GPL (based on ffmpeg) and cross platform.

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing - AVID?

2008-02-02 Thread Ian Pascoe
Sean

LWN finished off a video editing series week before last, which I sped read 
through - it may provide some enlightenment.

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  To: British Ubuntu Talk
  Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Video Editing - AVID?


  Anybody any ideas with OSS and/or Linux for this friend from Glastonbury?

  Thanks in advance.

  Sean

  =
  i have an external hard drive with a bunch of video footage from the
  sunrise festival to be edited - it has been captured in avid , the
  file are not compatable with my editing program - adobe cs3
  i have downloaded and installed avid dv to import thyem and export
  them as an avi file, but it is incompatible with my video card

  agh

  its a frustrating week for me computerwise
  does anyone here use avid and could convert the files for me or have
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-27 Thread Stephen Garton
Hi Javad,

On 27/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi,
 quick q.

  The size increase is because Kino converts everything into DV format so
 you can edit it first.

 Once you have edited it and exported it, the size will decrease rapidly.

 I tried this the first time and it convert it back into vob format.. but it
 wont again. The edited files stay as DV files after i export them.

 Ive looked at all the options and cant see anything !
 Can anyone help please?

I'm Sorry, but I don't understand the question.
Ar you asking how to export from Kino? If so I suggest having a read
of the documentation at http://www.kinodv.org/docbook/

You could try specifically looking at the export section, if you feel
the need to skip the rest.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-27 Thread Javad Ayaz
hi,
quick q.

 The size increase is because Kino converts everything into DV format so
you can edit it first.

Once you have edited it and exported it, the size will decrease rapidly.

I tried this the first time and it convert it back into vob format.. but it
wont again. The edited files stay as DV files after i export them.

Ive looked at all the options and cant see anything !
Can anyone help please?



On 21/01/2008, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 08:17 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
  ok i tried kino but heres the problem...it dramatically increases the
  file size. The original vob file size is 980 mb and once i drag and
  drop it into kino...without even touching it the file size becomes 3.2
  gb!!!

 Javad,

 The size increase is because Kino converts everything into DV format so
 you can edit it first.

 Once you have edited it and exported it, the size will decrease rapidly.

 Kind regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-27 Thread Javad Ayaz
basically ive trimmed the files and exported them. but they remain in dv
format after i export them. Someone said they should automatically be vob
files after export but that doesnt seem to happen.
I was just wondering if theres something i need to select for it or if im
doing something wrong!!!?

regards
Javad

On 27/01/2008, Stephen Garton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Javad,

 On 27/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hi,
  quick q.
 
   The size increase is because Kino converts everything into DV format
 so
  you can edit it first.
 
  Once you have edited it and exported it, the size will decrease
 rapidly.
 
  I tried this the first time and it convert it back into vob format.. but
 it
  wont again. The edited files stay as DV files after i export them.
 
  Ive looked at all the options and cant see anything !
  Can anyone help please?

 I'm Sorry, but I don't understand the question.
 Ar you asking how to export from Kino? If so I suggest having a read
 of the documentation at http://www.kinodv.org/docbook/

 You could try specifically looking at the export section, if you feel
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-22 Thread Javad Ayaz
ok heres what happened since my last email.

I put both my files on my mp3 player to carry to work where i would mess
around with it on Windoze Movie maker. Then at 6.18 in the morning i rose to
find another email by a Robert McWilliam. I read what he wrote and seeing
how it was almost time for me to get up anyway (Id been dreaming of joining
files too).  So i read his instructions. Carefully going through his
instructions i found that the path i had put was not actually correct. So i
corrected it. and then i copied and pasted both command lines into terminal.
and behold there infront of me was the desired joined file.

Just wana say a BIG thank you to all who took the time out in helping me in
this!

Thank you :)


On 21/01/2008, Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 09:46:03PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
  well
  cd /media/sda5/Nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob 
  mehndi_joined.vob
 

 OK, quick command line primer. Each program you want to run should
 either be at the start of the line or be indicated in some other way
 that it is a program[1]. After the program name in a command line will
 come any arguments that you want to give the program, these should be
 separated by spaces. The fact that spaces separate arguments is one of
 the problems you've got as there is a space in the path you want to
 use as an argument. In this case you have to tell the shell that this
 space is part of a single argument not separating two. The easiest way
 to do this is to put double quotes round the argument.

 What you have mentioned above is actually two commands, did you run it
 as two commands or as one?

 1st command (including fix for the space):
cd /media/sda5/Nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/

 This will change the working directory to the path specified.

 2nd command:
cat mehndil1.vob mehndi2.vob  mehndi_joined.vob

 This calls cat on the first two files, and redirects the output to
 mehndi_joined.vob. cat conCATenates multiple files together and
 outputs the results to the standard output. The  symbol redirects the
 standard output from the preceding command to somewhere else, in this
 case the file specified.

  still resulted in nothing! :(

 I'm willing to bet money it didn't ;) It probably didn't do what was
 desired but telling us what did happen (Were there any error messages?
 What were they? Was the computer busy for a while? ...) makes it
 easier to figure out where things went wrong.

 All that being said importing the two files to whichever video editor
 you were using is probably an easier approach if you're not
 comfortable with the command line.

Robert

 [1] e.g. what follows a | symbol is another program, this means that
 the output of the command in front of the | is the input for the
 command following the |
 If that made no sense don't worry about it too much.

 
 Robert McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED]www.ormiret.com

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
ok i tried kino but heres the problem...it dramatically increases the file
size. The original vob file size is 980 mb and once i drag and drop it into
kino...without even touching it the file size becomes 3.2 gb!!!




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 Kris Douglas wrote:
 
 
  On 20/01/2008, *Javad Ayaz* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  i only want something basic...wana cut out a few mins out of a vob
  file. thats it!
 
 
  May I advise you to look up the term top posting, and why its not
  recommended on lists, before someone, unlikely to be me, but someone
  wearing a slackware shirt kills you slowly with a USB Hacksaw (watch
  Hak.5 if you dont know what that is).
 
  Anyway, the best way to find the best editor is to try them, I would
  give kino a try seen as it is a good replica of Winshite movie maker.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 08:17 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 ok i tried kino but heres the problem...it dramatically increases the
 file size. The original vob file size is 980 mb and once i drag and
 drop it into kino...without even touching it the file size becomes 3.2
 gb!!! 

Javad,

The size increase is because Kino converts everything into DV format so
you can edit it first.

Once you have edited it and exported it, the size will decrease rapidly.

Kind regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
ok well thats a relief!

are there any tutorials on how to use Kino?
all i want to do is take out like 10 secs of footage from two places in a
file?

hope this makes sense!

Regards

Javad


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 On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 08:17 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
  ok i tried kino but heres the problem...it dramatically increases the
  file size. The original vob file size is 980 mb and once i drag and
  drop it into kino...without even touching it the file size becomes 3.2
  gb!!!

 Javad,

 The size increase is because Kino converts everything into DV format so
 you can edit it first.

 Once you have edited it and exported it, the size will decrease rapidly.

 Kind regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace

On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:07 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 ok well thats a relief!
  
 are there any tutorials on how to use Kino? 
 all i want to do is take out like 10 secs of footage from two places
 in a file?
  
 hope this makes sense!

Javad,

It pains me to do this, however:

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=kino
+tutorialsie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=com.ubuntu:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a

There are a huge number of Kino tutorials out there, and I humbly
suggest that if you search for the Kino internet site, it will probably
have instructions to achieve what you want to do.

Please understand that although I am keen to help where possible, the
dreaded phrase Google is your friend does stem from posts similar to
this one where the information is out there, it just hasn't been
searched for.

Kind regards,

Matt

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
indeed you are right. i didnt search and looked for the easy way out!
i hang my head in shame!!!


On 21/01/2008, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:07 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
  ok well thats a relief!
 
  are there any tutorials on how to use Kino?
  all i want to do is take out like 10 secs of footage from two places
  in a file?
 
  hope this makes sense!

 Javad,

 It pains me to do this, however:

 http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=kino
 +tutorialsie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=
 com.ubuntu:en-US:officialclient=firefox-a

 There are a huge number of Kino tutorials out there, and I humbly
 suggest that if you search for the Kino internet site, it will probably
 have instructions to achieve what you want to do.

 Please understand that although I am keen to help where possible, the
 dreaded phrase Google is your friend does stem from posts similar to
 this one where the information is out there, it just hasn't been
 searched for.

 Kind regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:29 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 indeed you are right. i didnt search and looked for the easy way out! 
 i hang my head in shame!!! 

We're all guilty of it, I just thought I'd nudge you in the right direction! :o)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
well thank you ill google it! :)

thank you for your help!


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 On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:29 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
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  i hang my head in shame!!!

 We're all guilty of it, I just thought I'd nudge you in the right
 direction! :o)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
regarding cinelerra, avidemux can anyone tell me if these are in the
reposotories?

Sorry im not at my pc at the mo.!!

Also which is the best program out of kino,cinelerra, avidemux for special
effects?

Regards

Javad


On 21/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 well thank you ill google it! :)

 thank you for your help!


  On 21/01/2008, Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 09:29 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
   indeed you are right. i didnt search and looked for the easy way out!
   i hang my head in shame!!!
 
  We're all guilty of it, I just thought I'd nudge you in the right
  direction! :o)
 
  M.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 02:18:48PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 regarding cinelerra, avidemux can anyone tell me if these are in the
 reposotories?
 

http://packages.ubuntu.com/ will tell you the answer to that one.

 Also which is the best program out of kino,cinelerra, avidemux for special
 effects?
 

Never done any special effects so I don't know, sorry.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Dan Attwood
If you want quick and easy video editing, with a familar time feel and some
simple effects try kdenlive. it's very simililar in it approach to windows
movie maker/ adobe premier. It's also got some good out put options as well.

and I would stay well away from cinelerra as that way madness lies!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
ok im going to be a pain ! sorry! :)

I edited the file. now i want to join 2 vob files but i cant see any way of
doing it.
I looked at the tutorial but couldnt see anything!!

Any help please?

Regards

Javad

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 If you want quick and easy video editing, with a familar time feel and
 some simple effects try kdenlive. it's very simililar in it approach to
 windows movie maker/ adobe premier. It's also got some good out put options
 as well.

 and I would stay well away from cinelerra as that way madness lies!

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace

On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 17:35 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 ok im going to be a pain ! sorry! :)
 
 I edited the file. now i want to join 2 vob files but i cant see any
 way of doing it. 
 I looked at the tutorial but couldnt see anything!!

mencoder may be your best bet for this - it's in apt, so download it and
check out the man pages (type man mencoder at the command prompt)

M.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
that is so full of text i can barely make sense of it!
:((

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 On Mon, 2008-01-21 at 17:35 +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
  ok im going to be a pain ! sorry! :)
 
  I edited the file. now i want to join 2 vob files but i cant see any
  way of doing it.
  I looked at the tutorial but couldnt see anything!!

 mencoder may be your best bet for this - it's in apt, so download it and
 check out the man pages (type man mencoder at the command prompt)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Chris Smith
Javad Ayaz wrote:
 ok im going to be a pain ! sorry! :)
 
 I edited the file. now i want to join 2 vob files but i cant see any way of
 doing it.
 I looked at the tutorial but couldnt see anything!!
 
 Any help please?

VOB files are just MPEG streams so you *should* be able to just do:

  cat file1.vob file2.vob  joined.vob

Not tried it myself.

Regards,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
This command in terminal i take it?
Also do i need to specify the path of the files? or just file1.vob file2.vob
?

On 21/01/2008, Chris Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Javad Ayaz wrote:
  ok im going to be a pain ! sorry! :)
 
  I edited the file. now i want to join 2 vob files but i cant see any way
 of
  doing it.
  I looked at the tutorial but couldnt see anything!!
 
  Any help please?

 VOB files are just MPEG streams so you *should* be able to just do:

   cat file1.vob file2.vob  joined.vob

 Not tried it myself.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Chris Smith
Javad Ayaz wrote:
 This command in terminal i take it?
 Also do i need to specify the path of the files? or just file1.vob file2.vob
 ?

Yeah this is a command to be run in the terminal. You need to specify
the paths to the files, I was assuming you were in the directory
containing them. You could however do this:

cat /path/to/file1.vob /path/to/file2.vob  /path/to/output.vob

The output file will be created for you be the shell.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
i tried this

cat /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi1.vob /dev/sda5/nuzhet
shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi2.vob /dev/sda5.vob

but it didnt work!!

any ideas?

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 Javad Ayaz wrote:
  This command in terminal i take it?
  Also do i need to specify the path of the files? or just file1.vob
 file2.vob
  ?

 Yeah this is a command to be run in the terminal. You need to specify
 the paths to the files, I was assuming you were in the directory
 containing them. You could however do this:

 cat /path/to/file1.vob /path/to/file2.vob  /path/to/output.vob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Stephen Garton
On 21/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i tried this

 cat /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi1.vob /dev/sda5/nuzhet
 shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi2.vob /dev/sda5.vob

 but it didnt work!!

 any ideas?

Javad,

Try cat /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi1.vob
/dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi2.vob  /dev/sda5/nuzhet
shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi_all.vob
 or

cd /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/
cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob  mehndi_joined.vob

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Tom Bamford
Stephen Garton wrote:
 On 21/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i tried this

 cat /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi1.vob /dev/sda5/nuzhet
 shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi2.vob /dev/sda5.vob

 but it didnt work!!

 any ideas?

 Javad,
 
 Try cat /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi1.vob
 /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi2.vob  /dev/sda5/nuzhet
 shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi_all.vob
  or
 
 cd /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/
 cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob  mehndi_joined.vob
 
You're specifying the device file rather than the mount point. Rather 
use the directory where the hda5 partition is mounted, eg. /mnt/hda5 or 
/media/hda5

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
tried both even
cd /media/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob 
mehndi_joined.vob

but still no joy!!
The N in nuzhet is upper case. Could that be it?

On 21/01/2008, Tom Bamford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Stephen Garton wrote:
  On 21/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i tried this
 
  cat /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi1.vob /dev/sda5/nuzhet
  shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi2.vob /dev/sda5.vob
 
  but it didnt work!!
 
  any ideas?
 
  Javad,
 
  Try cat /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi1.vob
  /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi2.vob  /dev/sda5/nuzhet
  shadi/mehndi edited/mehndi_all.vob
   or
 
  cd /dev/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/
  cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob  mehndi_joined.vob
 
 You're specifying the device file rather than the mount point. Rather
 use the directory where the hda5 partition is mounted, eg. /mnt/hda5 or
 /media/hda5

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Tom Bamford
Javad Ayaz wrote:
 tried both even
 cd /media/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob  
 mehndi_joined.vob
 
 but still no joy!!
 The N in nuzhet is upper case. Could that be it?
 

Yes, you must specify an uppercase N as Linux filenames are case sensitive.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Kris Douglas
On 21/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 well
 cd /media/sda5/Nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob 
 mehndi_joined.vob

 still resulted in nothing! :(

 On 21/01/2008, Tom Bamford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Javad Ayaz wrote:
   tried both even
   cd /media/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob
   mehndi_joined.vob
  
   but still no joy!!
   The N in nuzhet is upper case. Could that be it?
  
 
  Yes, you must specify an uppercase N as Linux filenames are case
  sensitive.
 
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I am not a video editor myself, but can't you just drag the 2 scenes into a
video editor and export them together as one file? You can in MS Movie
Maker, I don't see what difference it would make in apps such as kino, where
I believe it works the same way.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Javad Ayaz
to be honest i just had exactly that same idea just now...just dragged it to
kinowill post here how i get on!!!
:)

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 On 21/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  well
  cd /media/sda5/Nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob 
  mehndi_joined.vob
 
  still resulted in nothing! :(
 
  On 21/01/2008, Tom Bamford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Javad Ayaz wrote:
tried both even
cd /media/sda5/nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob
   mehndi2.vob 
mehndi_joined.vob
   
but still no joy!!
The N in nuzhet is upper case. Could that be it?
   
  
   Yes, you must specify an uppercase N as Linux filenames are case
   sensitive.
  
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 I am not a video editor myself, but can't you just drag the 2 scenes into
 a video editor and export them together as one file? You can in MS Movie
 Maker, I don't see what difference it would make in apps such as kino, where
 I believe it works the same way.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Mark Fraser
On Monday 21 January 2008 20:32:18 Chris Smith wrote:
 Javad Ayaz wrote:
  This command in terminal i take it?
  Also do i need to specify the path of the files? or just file1.vob
  file2.vob ?

 Yeah this is a command to be run in the terminal. You need to specify
 the paths to the files, I was assuming you were in the directory
 containing them. You could however do this:

 cat /path/to/file1.vob /path/to/file2.vob  /path/to/output.vob

 The output file will be created for you be the shell.


Managed to get that working here, merged 4 .vob files into 1. Just need to 
find something that will all me to edit them, have tried avidemux, but that 
needs the file to be put through projectx so that the audio and video are 
synced together.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-21 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 09:46:03PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 well
 cd /media/sda5/Nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/ cat mehndi1.vob mehndi2.vob 
 mehndi_joined.vob
 

OK, quick command line primer. Each program you want to run should
either be at the start of the line or be indicated in some other way
that it is a program[1]. After the program name in a command line will
come any arguments that you want to give the program, these should be
separated by spaces. The fact that spaces separate arguments is one of
the problems you've got as there is a space in the path you want to
use as an argument. In this case you have to tell the shell that this
space is part of a single argument not separating two. The easiest way
to do this is to put double quotes round the argument. 

What you have mentioned above is actually two commands, did you run it
as two commands or as one?

1st command (including fix for the space):
cd /media/sda5/Nuzhet shadi/mehndi edited/

This will change the working directory to the path specified. 

2nd command:
cat mehndil1.vob mehndi2.vob  mehndi_joined.vob

This calls cat on the first two files, and redirects the output to
mehndi_joined.vob. cat conCATenates multiple files together and
outputs the results to the standard output. The  symbol redirects the
standard output from the preceding command to somewhere else, in this
case the file specified.

 still resulted in nothing! :(

I'm willing to bet money it didn't ;) It probably didn't do what was
desired but telling us what did happen (Were there any error messages?
What were they? Was the computer busy for a while? ...) makes it
easier to figure out where things went wrong. 

All that being said importing the two files to whichever video editor
you were using is probably an easier approach if you're not
comfortable with the command line. 

Robert

[1] e.g. what follows a | symbol is another program, this means that
the output of the command in front of the | is the input for the
command following the | 
If that made no sense don't worry about it too much.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-20 Thread Kris Douglas
On 20/01/2008, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:05:36PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
  Is there anything i can use for video editing in gutsy?
 

 Yes.


How...helpful... of you Al :P

There are loads of apps like Kino and Blender, some basic forum reeding and
wiki trawling should pull something that you like up.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-20 Thread Alan Pope
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:08:04PM +, Alan Pope wrote:
 On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:05:36PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
  Is there anything i can use for video editing in gutsy?
  
 
 Yes.
 

Hmm, I appear to have hit send too early. My apologies.

Video editing under linux can be done in lots of applications. Here's a few 
you might try:-

Kino, cinelerra, avidemux. All of which work to a greater or lesser degree.

If you're brave also try:-

Pitivi, Lives (neither of which work) [yet].

If you're foolhardy also consider:-

GNEVE.

However if you tell us what you want to do, then we might be able to help. 
However I suspect a significant amount of advice will be of the try the 
ones listed above and see how they work out for you.

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-20 Thread Alan Pope
On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:05:36PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
 Is there anything i can use for video editing in gutsy?
 

Yes.

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[ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-20 Thread Javad Ayaz
Hi,

Is there anything i can use for video editing in gutsy?

Regards

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-20 Thread Kris Douglas
On 20/01/2008, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On 20/01/2008, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:05:36PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
   Is there anything i can use for video editing in gutsy?
  
 
  Yes.


 How...helpful... of you Al :P

 There are loads of apps like Kino and Blender, some basic forum reeding
 and wiki trawling should pull something that you like up.



Feel free to slap me with a rotten fish, I have just finished listening to
the Damn LugRadio show and had blender in my mind, associated with movies,
obviously because of the upcoming release of their new film.

Yeah, Al was right in his last post (I like Kino)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-20 Thread Javad Ayaz
i only want something basic...wana cut out a few mins out of a vob file.
thats it!

what would be the best program for that please?

On 20/01/2008, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 On 20/01/2008, Kris Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
  On 20/01/2008, Alan Pope [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   On Sun, Jan 20, 2008 at 10:05:36PM +, Javad Ayaz wrote:
Is there anything i can use for video editing in gutsy?
   
  
   Yes.
 
 
  How...helpful... of you Al :P
 
  There are loads of apps like Kino and Blender, some basic forum reeding
  and wiki trawling should pull something that you like up.
 


 Feel free to slap me with a rotten fish, I have just finished listening to
 the Damn LugRadio show and had blender in my mind, associated with movies,
 obviously because of the upcoming release of their new film.

 Yeah, Al was right in his last post (I like Kino)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-20 Thread Kris Douglas
On 20/01/2008, Javad Ayaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i only want something basic...wana cut out a few mins out of a vob file.
 thats it!


May I advise you to look up the term top posting, and why its not
recommended on lists, before someone, unlikely to be me, but someone wearing
a slackware shirt kills you slowly with a USB Hacksaw (watch Hak.5 if you
dont know what that is).

Anyway, the best way to find the best editor is to try them, I would give
kino a try seen as it is a good replica of Winshite movie maker.




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] video editing

2008-01-20 Thread Adam Bagnall
Kris Douglas wrote:


 On 20/01/2008, *Javad Ayaz* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i only want something basic...wana cut out a few mins out of a vob
 file. thats it!


 May I advise you to look up the term top posting, and why its not 
 recommended on lists, before someone, unlikely to be me, but someone 
 wearing a slackware shirt kills you slowly with a USB Hacksaw (watch 
 Hak.5 if you dont know what that is).

 Anyway, the best way to find the best editor is to try them, I would 
 give kino a try seen as it is a good replica of Winshite movie maker.
  



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing

2007-09-28 Thread Sakjur
Why don't you use the diffrent advantages of the diffrent editors?
Like mix them...
Is it speciall fileformats for the diffrent editors?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing

2007-09-28 Thread Alan Pope
Hi,

On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 08:26 +0200, Sakjur wrote:
 Why don't you use the diffrent advantages of the diffrent editors?
 Like mix them...
 Is it speciall fileformats for the diffrent editors?

Imagine using 3 different word processors to produce a document. One
because it lets you do bold, one because it does tables and another
because it saves in the right format. You would have to keep switching
between the applications. It would be incredibly inefficient and
frustrating.

I would love to see just one decent video editor on Linux. There are
loads on Windows and Mac :(

Cheers,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing

2007-09-28 Thread Sakjur
2007/9/28, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:



  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ubuntu-uk-
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Pope
  Sent: 28 September 2007 07:35
  To: British Ubuntu Talk
  Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing
 
  Hi,
 
  On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 08:26 +0200, Sakjur wrote:
   Why don't you use the diffrent advantages of the diffrent editors?
   Like mix them...
   Is it speciall fileformats for the diffrent editors?
 
  Imagine using 3 different word processors to produce a document. One
  because it lets you do bold, one because it does tables and another
  because it saves in the right format. You would have to keep switching
  between the applications. It would be incredibly inefficient and
  frustrating.
 
  I would love to see just one decent video editor on Linux. There are
  loads on Windows and Mac :(
 
  Cheers,
  Al.
 
 


Ohh... yeah... maybe it's a bit hard to use three diffrent... anyway you
should use one for the effects and one for the editing.. there's a lot of
pro's doing that...
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing

2007-09-28 Thread Mark Harrison
Alan Pope wrote:
 Hi,

 On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 08:26 +0200, Sakjur wrote:
   
 Why don't you use the diffrent advantages of the diffrent editors?
 Like mix them...
 Is it speciall fileformats for the diffrent editors?
 

 Imagine using 3 different word processors to produce a document. One
 because it lets you do bold, one because it does tables and another
 because it saves in the right format. You would have to keep switching
 between the applications. It would be incredibly inefficient and
 frustrating.

 I would love to see just one decent video editor on Linux. There are
 loads on Windows and Mac :(

   
I agree with you up to a point... However, I don't know that the Windows 
world of video editing is so much better...

At the moment my (work-related) video editing / DVD mastering is done in 
the Windows world... and I've worked out that I actually use _4_ 
different applications to make the average DVD.

- Adobe Audition for the audio tracks
- Adobe Premier for the Video editing itself
- MS Paint (kid you not) for rendering simply JPGs for use as titles :-)
- Adobe Encore for generating DVD menu structures

- Oh, and theoretically I use Adobe Media encoder to do the rendering, 
but it's so well integrated with Premier these days I don't think of it 
as a separate application as such, just a popup options box within 
Premier.


At the moment, I see good free / OSS alternatives to Audition and MS 
Paint... but stick with what's there because I know them well, can drive 
them very, very, quickly, and there's still one area (fourier noise 
reduction) where the proprietary software has an edge technically.


Regards,

Mark

 Cheers,
 Al.
   


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing

2007-09-28 Thread Darren.Mansell


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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ubuntu-uk-
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 Sent: 28 September 2007 07:35
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 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing
 
 Hi,
 
 On Fri, 2007-09-28 at 08:26 +0200, Sakjur wrote:
  Why don't you use the diffrent advantages of the diffrent editors?
  Like mix them...
  Is it speciall fileformats for the diffrent editors?
 
 Imagine using 3 different word processors to produce a document. One
 because it lets you do bold, one because it does tables and another
 because it saves in the right format. You would have to keep switching
 between the applications. It would be incredibly inefficient and
 frustrating.
 
 I would love to see just one decent video editor on Linux. There are
 loads on Windows and Mac :(
 
 Cheers,
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I think Pinnacle really need to turn their attention to Linux. All the
gstreamer stuff with gnonlin means half their work is done for them.

I think the effort required on their part for the development would be
worth it by the amount of people willing to pay for a good video editor
on Linux.

Also now oems are preinstalling Linux they really need a nice editor.
All the old prejudices about 'how can you develop for 2 toolkits' and
'which distro do I develop for' just isn't a problem any more. Make it
monolithic like Google Earth / Picasa etc. or just open-source a small
part of the front end so people can write their own front-ends.

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[ubuntu-uk] Video editing

2007-09-27 Thread Michael Erskine
Hi folks,
Every couple of months I return to the disappointing world of video editing on 
Linux: I get the latest of each package and watch each one fail to open files 
and segfault all over the place. I've tried kino, lives, cinelerra, and 
plenty more, the names of which I forget.

Can anyone point me at an up-to-date guide for video editing on Feisty that 
they've been able to follow? 

My requirements are (I believe) modest:
* trim video clips
* append clips together
* overlay some text titles
* save result

Usually I give up after a few fruitless hours and boot to XP to use Nero 
Vision Express which just works.

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing

2007-09-27 Thread Daniel Lamb
Have you looked at the ubuntu studio project?

They have afew applications for that.

Also there is http://avidemux.sourceforge.net/ which certainly looks
promising.
Regards,
Daniel

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Hi folks,
Every couple of months I return to the disappointing world of video editing
on
Linux: I get the latest of each package and watch each one fail to open
files and segfault all over the place. I've tried kino, lives, cinelerra,
and plenty more, the names of which I forget.

Can anyone point me at an up-to-date guide for video editing on Feisty that
they've been able to follow? 

My requirements are (I believe) modest:
* trim video clips
* append clips together
* overlay some text titles
* save result

Usually I give up after a few fruitless hours and boot to XP to use Nero
Vision Express which just works.

Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing

2007-09-27 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, 2007-09-27 at 09:22 +0100, Michael Erskine wrote:
 Hi folks,
 Every couple of months I return to the disappointing world of video editing 
 on 
 Linux:

:( Bummer isn't it.

  I get the latest of each package and watch each one fail to open files 
 and segfault all over the place. I've tried kino, lives, cinelerra, and 
 plenty more, the names of which I forget.
 

I have seen people swear by cinelerra, but they I have also seen people
swear _at_ cinelerra. My mate Hugo calls it The emacs of video
editors.

The Source (a video podcast) use cinelerra and have provided some
tutorials on its use if that helps.

http://www.thesourceshow.org/

To edit screencasts I use avidemux, the versions in Ubuntu Feisty and
Gutsy. My requirements are pretty slim. I just open the (mpeg2) video
(with no audio) and trim out he bits I don't need. I then save it, and
use avidemux to chain together a set of videos (File - Open, then
repeated File - Append), then save back out as mpeg2 again. Later I add
an audio track and write it out again as mpeg2 with mp2 audio.

Finally I use ffmpeg to do all the conversion to other video
containers/codecs.

One of the constraints I put on myself when creating screencasts is that
I should use free/open source software wherever possible. This means
that I don't use video editors on Mac/Windows even though there are
really great (and expensive) ones available. I'm an eat your own
dogfood kinda person, but not to the point of zealotry, I mean, I make
the videos available in flash format for a start! :) 

I recently downloaded mainactor which looks really sweet - but also hung
on my machine a few times :(. Shame it's been discontinued. I understand
there is a movement to get the vendor to open source the product so
development can continue. It's certainly better than any other video
editor I have used on Linux. I'd certainly put my hand in my pocket to
donate to the cause if I thought they would open the code up.

Just my 2p.

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing

2007-09-27 Thread Darren.Mansell

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ubuntu-uk-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Erskine
 Sent: 27 September 2007 09:22
 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
 Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing
 
 Hi folks,
 Every couple of months I return to the disappointing world of video
 editing on
 Linux: I get the latest of each package and watch each one fail to
open
 files
 and segfault all over the place. I've tried kino, lives, cinelerra,
and
 plenty more, the names of which I forget.
 
 Can anyone point me at an up-to-date guide for video editing on Feisty
 that
 they've been able to follow?
 
 My requirements are (I believe) modest:
 * trim video clips
 * append clips together
 * overlay some text titles
 * save result
 
 Usually I give up after a few fruitless hours and boot to XP to use
Nero
 Vision Express which just works.
 
 Regards,
 Michael Erskine.
 
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between
 the desire to stand out and the need to blend in.
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I've been thinking the same thing for ages and keep trying video
editing. Really tried with Cinelerra but couldn't get on with it still.

Gave kino a good go and I can actually get some good results from it
now.

I capture from DV in Kino, trim and edit clips, join and split etc. Then
I can put titles, add transitions and then export to lots of different
formats. It just feels a little strange to work with at first but once
you realise the shortcuts and the correct way to work with it, it makes
sense. Read the help guide with it.

I've got only one problem now with it, the results seem a little dark
but that may be because I'm used to Pinnacle Studio blasting contrast at
me.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Video editing

2007-09-27 Thread andy
Michael,

I think it may soon be your lucky day.  Ubuntustudio is a new release of ubuntu 
which focuses on us 'creative' type.  Currently there are package sets for 
music (ubuntustudio-audio), graphic design (ubuntustudio-graphic) and even your 
chosen one, video (ubuntustudio-video).  It's not a completely new incarnation 
though, as you mention it contains packages such as Kino, Cinepaint, Stopmotion 
and the like, but the packagers are attempting to get it as stable as possible 
- which as you said has been the main drawback.

Check out ubuntustudio.org - you can download their CD (recommended for a fresh 
install) or add their repo and use that.

Hope you have fun.  I'm into the music personally, and really liking their 
efforts.

Regards,

Andy

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:22:04 +0100, Michael Erskine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi folks,
 Every couple of months I return to the disappointing world of video
 editing on
 Linux: I get the latest of each package and watch each one fail to open
 files
 and segfault all over the place. I've tried kino, lives, cinelerra, and
 plenty more, the names of which I forget.
 
 Can anyone point me at an up-to-date guide for video editing on Feisty
 that
 they've been able to follow?
 
 My requirements are (I believe) modest:
 * trim video clips
 * append clips together
 * overlay some text titles
 * save result
 
 Usually I give up after a few fruitless hours and boot to XP to use Nero
 Vision Express which just works.
 
 Regards,
 Michael Erskine.
 
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