Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-05 Thread Matthew Daubney
On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 19:58 +, John MM wrote:
 Ok, I just wondered, can I ask the question again, I have managed to get 
 the computers to see each other, but I cannot get Nautilus to show the 
 directories, from either the Ubuntu partition or the Windows Partition. 
 When I go into PlacesNetwork, I click on the Icon in there, and still 
 get Unable to mount location - Failed to retrieve share list from 
 server. I have searched for that using Google, not much comes up, that I 
 can understand anyway. I am still wondering if it is a 
 Permissions/ownership thing. Is there a command in the Terminal I can 
 use to see why Nautilus camt view the files.
 

Not sure if this will help, but I've never got nautilus to work happily
in that manner with SMB, however, if you hit ctrl+l in a nautilus window
it will drop you into the address bar. Now just type smb://192.168.x.x/
and hit enter. 

It should now show you the available shares for that machine.

If it doesn't, in a terminal, type nautilus and try again. If you
still get any errors, see if it dumps anything into the terminal window
and if it does, paste that back to us here.

-Matt Daubney


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-05 Thread Neil Greenwood


On 5 Mar 2011, at 08:14, Matthew Daubney m...@daubers.co.uk wrote:


On Fri, 2011-03-04 at 19:58 +, John MM wrote:
Ok, I just wondered, can I ask the question again, I have managed  
to get
the computers to see each other, but I cannot get Nautilus to show  
the
directories, from either the Ubuntu partition or the Windows  
Partition.
When I go into PlacesNetwork, I click on the Icon in there, and  
still

get Unable to mount location - Failed to retrieve share list from
server. I have searched for that using Google, not much comes up,  
that I

can understand anyway. I am still wondering if it is a
Permissions/ownership thing. Is there a command in the Terminal I can
use to see why Nautilus camt view the files.



Not sure if this will help, but I've never got nautilus to work  
happily
in that manner with SMB, however, if you hit ctrl+l in a nautilus  
window
it will drop you into the address bar. Now just type smb:// 
192.168.x.x/

and hit enter.


Just to clarify here, since John is still learning and sometimes we  
have't been explicit enough; you would replace the x.x with the  
appropriate numbers for your network, or replace the whole 192.168.x.x  
with the name of your other machine. Best to try with the numeric  
addresses first.



Cofion/Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-05 Thread John MM

On 05/03/11 08:14, Matthew Daubney wrote:

Not sure if this will help, but I've never got nautilus to work happily
in that manner with SMB, however, if you hit ctrl+l in a nautilus window
it will drop you into the address bar. Now just type smb://192.168.x.x/
and hit enter.

It should now show you the available shares for that machine.

If it doesn't, in a terminal, type nautilus and try again. If you
still get any errors, see if it dumps anything into the terminal window
and if it does, paste that back to us here.

-Matt Daubney
Oh wow, that has bought up a list of the Ubuntu directories on this and 
if I put in the other IP address of the other machine that one as well. 
Problem is, I cant log in, it has a box asking for Username, Domain and 
Password. I just tried a load of different things I think it could be, 
and its not letting me in. So, at least I can now see the other 
computers directories, I just have to find a way to work out what to 
enter into those three things. Funny thing though, it says just above 
the Username box, How do I find out what the Domain is?


Password required for share print$ on 192.168.0x.x is that normal, not 
sure why it should be about Print$


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-05 Thread Matthew Daubney
On Sat, 2011-03-05 at 10:33 +, John MM wrote:
 On 05/03/11 08:14, Matthew Daubney wrote:
  Not sure if this will help, but I've never got nautilus to work happily
  in that manner with SMB, however, if you hit ctrl+l in a nautilus window
  it will drop you into the address bar. Now just type smb://192.168.x.x/
  and hit enter.
 
  It should now show you the available shares for that machine.
 
  If it doesn't, in a terminal, type nautilus and try again. If you
  still get any errors, see if it dumps anything into the terminal window
  and if it does, paste that back to us here.
 
  -Matt Daubney
 Oh wow, that has bought up a list of the Ubuntu directories on this and 
 if I put in the other IP address of the other machine that one as well. 
 Problem is, I cant log in, it has a box asking for Username, Domain and 
 Password. I just tried a load of different things I think it could be, 
 and its not letting me in. So, at least I can now see the other 
 computers directories, I just have to find a way to work out what to 
 enter into those three things. Funny thing though, it says just above 
 the Username box, How do I find out what the Domain is?
 
 Password required for share print$ on 192.168.0x.x is that normal, not 
 sure why it should be about Print$
 
 Thank you for you help.

If you've not changed it (based on reading I doubt you have) the domain
is probably WORKGROUP.

You username/password for your Ubuntu shares will be whatever user you
assigned to the shares in the smb.conf file (the valid users = timmy
johnny line), I have no idea how any of the graphical tools do this  if
you've set it to guest ok = yes then you can just login with the Guest
user account (no password, username Guest I seem to recall... though
there might be a Sign in as guest button. There is on OS X)

For your Windows shares, it'll be the username/password of the person
who owns the share. So to connect to my Win7 shares I user the username
matt and my windows password as the password.

Hope that helps you a bit further along the track.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-05 Thread John MM
Well, I have to say this, since upgraqding to 10.04 from 9.04, I have 
not been able to use my file share on my computers. I have tried 
looking, tried asking, more times than I want, and I have to say, after 
spending most of the day today, almost demading questions answered, I 
got my answer. With the terminal, I have always thought with a few 
direct questions, most problems can be sorted. I honestly believe my 
problem could have been sorted a lot sooner too.


The answer, was given with a command, via the terminal, one which with 
my experience, I would never in a million years have been able to get. I 
dont even think many people apart from geeks, would have. Which is why i 
believe directed questions by somebody who knows could have solved it 
sooner.


I now have after all this time, my sharing back, and my windows sharing, 
the windows sharing bit took seconds once the initial problem got 
sorted. I dont understand why it is, that when something is working ok, 
upgrading can take that away. Why does that happen. I am hoping, with 
the new upgrade coming soon, it doesnt do the same thing.




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-05 Thread John MM

On 05/03/11 18:35, Matthew Daubney wrote:

If you've not changed it (based on reading I doubt you have) the domain
is probably WORKGROUP.

You username/password for your Ubuntu shares will be whatever user you
assigned to the shares in the smb.conf file (the valid users = timmy
johnny line), I have no idea how any of the graphical tools do this  if
you've set it to guest ok = yes then you can just login with the Guest
user account (no password, username Guest I seem to recall... though
there might be a Sign in as guest button. There is on OS X)

For your Windows shares, it'll be the username/password of the person
who owns the share. So to connect to my Win7 shares I user the username
matt and my windows password as the password.

Hope that helps you a bit further along the track.

-Matt Daubney


Hi Matt,

thanks for the message, I really appreciate it. its been fixed, and I 
even have my windows share fixed too. Not something I would have been 
able to get with a million years of looking. The command I was given, 
for both machines, totally lost me, but it worked, and opened up my 
locked machine to share. It took seconds, but I still had to spend a lot 
of time trying to work it out. But it now works.




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-05 Thread John MM

On 05/03/11 18:35, Matthew Daubney wrote:

If you've not changed it (based on reading I doubt you have) the domain
is probably WORKGROUP.

You username/password for your Ubuntu shares will be whatever user you
assigned to the shares in the smb.conf file (the valid users = timmy
johnny line), I have no idea how any of the graphical tools do this  if
you've set it to guest ok = yes then you can just login with the Guest
user account (no password, username Guest I seem to recall... though
there might be a Sign in as guest button. There is on OS X)

For your Windows shares, it'll be the username/password of the person
who owns the share. So to connect to my Win7 shares I user the username
matt and my windows password as the password.

Hope that helps you a bit further along the track.

-Matt Daubney


Oh, and as well as the terminal command, we also worked out the ufw 
firewall was stopping this machine from being seen. Even with new rules 
I added it still wouldnt work, I didnt even know I had a firewall turned 
on. ufw has now been stopped. I know nothing about Ubuntu firewalls, and 
couldnt even guess what I would need to do to fix the problem I am going 
to habve not use it. Until I can find somebody that can get it to work.




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-05 Thread Colin Law
On 5 March 2011 18:43, John MM scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, I have to say this, since upgraqding to 10.04 from 9.04, I have not
 been able to use my file share on my computers. I have tried looking, tried
 asking, more times than I want, and I have to say, after spending most of
 the day today, almost demading questions answered, I got my answer. With the
 terminal, I have always thought with a few direct questions, most problems
 can be sorted. I honestly believe my problem could have been sorted a lot
 sooner too.

 The answer, was given with a command, via the terminal, one which with my
 experience, I would never in a million years have been able to get. I dont
 even think many people apart from geeks, would have. Which is why i believe
 directed questions by somebody who knows could have solved it sooner.

Can you tell us what the command was so that anyone finding this
thread in the future may be helped?

Colin

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-04 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 4 March 2011 07:37, John MM scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 04/03/11 07:09, Simon Greenwood wrote:

 Check that you can ping either computer each way, that SMB sharing is set
 up on your netbook - it isn't installed by default as Gordon has pointed
 out, and you'll have to search for Samba in the Software Centre.

 s/



 Appologies, just woke up, forget what I just said about the directories
 inside samba directory, the ones I want to share have no locks. I'm
 wondering, what are the permissions/ownership for the samba directory
 itself? Maybe that is why I cant see in the samba directory.



The samba directory should be owned by root. Everything else looks correct
from your ls output. Your shared folders should be owned by you.

In Windows, a machine's user has defacto admin rights. The question that
Vista and Windows 7 asks about making changes to your system when you
install something is essentially granting you permission to do something to
the system.

Ubuntu is a Linux-derived operating system that takes its permissions
structure from Unix. On an Ubuntu desktop you are a non-privileged user who
has the right to make changes to the system using sudo. When you need to
make changes, you are asked to enter your password, which gives you
temporary administrator privileges. System level files are owned by the
administrator, and generally, you shouldn't have to do anything with them
unless you have a problem like this. If you look at them using the file
browser, they will appear to be locked. Broadly speaking, the only place
that files shouldn't be locked is in your home directory.

Now, to test connectivity between your machines.  Make sure that they are
connected to your router either by cable or wireless. You will need to know
their names. On one machine, open Terminal and type 'ping' and the name of
the other machine. You might have to enter machinename.local. You should
see output like this:

PING machine.local (192.168.0.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from machine.local (192.168.0.2): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.117 ms
64 bytes from machine.local (192.168.0.2): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.139 ms
64 bytes from machine.local (192.168.0.2): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.131 ms
64 bytes from machine.local (192.168.0.2): icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.114 ms

If you don't see that, then you have sort out your connectivity.

I need to get some work done now and I really would suggest that if you need
to understand the differences between Windows and Ubuntu, that you read
this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows and
the pages linked to it. Again, I'm not trying to fob you off, but I don't
think that this list is the place to talk about the basics. In my opinion
Ubuntu is the best desktop distribution of Linux but it's not completely a
drop-in replacement yet, and you do need to understand a few concepts.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-04 Thread John MM

On 04/03/11 07:09, Simon Greenwood wrote:
Check that you can ping either computer each way, that SMB sharing is 
set up on your netbook - it isn't installed by default as Gordon has 
pointed out, and you'll have to search for Samba in the Software Centre.


s/


Ok, have been trying to work with this, and its like this computer is 
locked. Can anybody tell me what the permissions are for the samba 
directory. I dont know what else to do.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-04 Thread John MM

On 04/03/11 09:18, Simon Greenwood wrote:
The samba directory should be owned by root. Everything else looks 
correct from your ls output. Your shared folders should be owned by you.


In Windows, a machine's user has defacto admin rights. The question 
that Vista and Windows 7 asks about making changes to your system when 
you install something is essentially granting you permission to do 
something to the system.


Ubuntu is a Linux-derived operating system that takes its permissions 
structure from Unix. On an Ubuntu desktop you are a non-privileged 
user who has the right to make changes to the system using sudo. When 
you need to make changes, you are asked to enter your password, which 
gives you temporary administrator privileges. System level files are 
owned by the administrator, and generally, you shouldn't have to do 
anything with them unless you have a problem like this. If you look at 
them using the file browser, they will appear to be locked. Broadly 
speaking, the only place that files shouldn't be locked is in your 
home directory.


Now, to test connectivity between your machines.  Make sure that they 
are connected to your router either by cable or wireless. You will 
need to know their names. On one machine, open Terminal and type 
'ping' and the name of the other machine. You might have to enter 
machinename.local. You should see output like this:


PING machine.local (192.168.0.2) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from machine.local (192.168.0.2): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.117 ms
64 bytes from machine.local (192.168.0.2): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.139 ms
64 bytes from machine.local (192.168.0.2): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.131 ms
64 bytes from machine.local (192.168.0.2): icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.114 ms

If you don't see that, then you have sort out your connectivity.

I need to get some work done now and I really would suggest that if 
you need to understand the differences between Windows and Ubuntu, 
that you read this: 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows and 
the pages linked to it. Again, I'm not trying to fob you off, but I 
don't think that this list is the place to talk about the basics. In 
my opinion Ubuntu is the best desktop distribution of Linux but it's 
not completely a drop-in replacement yet, and you do need to 
understand a few concepts.


Simon



Hi, thank you, I really appreciate the help. Its really frustrating. I 
tried the ping, I can ping this computer from my netbook  but I cant 
ping from this computer to my netbook. I am convinced its a lock 
somewhere on this computer.


As far as the link goes, that is something that I have been working from 
already. Thank you though for helping.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-04 Thread John MM

Ok, well, I found this, if I run

me@me-laptop:~$ smbclient -L //192.168.x.x
Enter me's password:
Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.5.4]

Sharename   Type  Comment
-     ---
print$  Disk  Printer Drivers
IPC$IPC   IPC Service (me-Netbook server (Samba, 
Ubuntu))

public  Disk
picturesDisk
documents   Disk
downloads   Disk
videos  Disk
music   Disk
Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.5.4]

Server   Comment
----
me-NETBOOKme-Netbook server (Samba, Ubuntu)

WorkgroupMaster
----
WORKGROUP


That is my netbook...It seems I have done something that allows me 
to see my netbook, but how can I view the folders, I dont see anywhere 
to view them. Where do I view the shares from this computer.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-04 Thread Colin Law
On 4 March 2011 10:13, John MM scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, well, I found this, if I run

 me@me-laptop:~$ smbclient -L //192.168.x.x
 Enter me's password:
 Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.5.4]

    Sharename       Type      Comment
    -             ---
    print$          Disk      Printer Drivers
    IPC$            IPC       IPC Service (me-Netbook server (Samba, Ubuntu))
    public          Disk
    pictures        Disk
    documents       Disk
    downloads       Disk
    videos          Disk
    music           Disk
 Domain=[WORKGROUP] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 3.5.4]

    Server               Comment
    -            ---
    me-NETBOOK        me-Netbook server (Samba, Ubuntu)

    Workgroup            Master
    -            ---
    WORKGROUP


 That is my netbook...It seems I have done something that allows me to
 see my netbook, but how can I view the folders, I dont see anywhere to view
 them. Where do I view the shares from this computer.

What do you see if you select Places  Network

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-04 Thread John MM
ok, think I found something, I tried running testparm smb.conf inside 
samba directory, and it seems I dont have the smb.conf file. I tried 
looking for it, in the directory, and couldnt see it anywhere.


Where should it be, and if its really isnt there, how do I ge it.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-04 Thread John MM

On 04/03/11 10:25, Colin Law wrote:

What do you see if you select Places  Network

Colin
 I see Windows Network Icon, that when I click on it, it gives an 
'unable to mount, failed to retrieve sharelist from server'.I just 
discovered, I cant find my smb.conf file in the samba directory. I 
wonder if that might be the problem.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-04 Thread Andy Partington
On 4 March 2011 10:32, John MM scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 04/03/11 10:25, Colin Law wrote:

 What do you see if you select Places  Network

 Colin

  I see Windows Network Icon, that when I click on it, it gives an 'unable
 to mount, failed to retrieve sharelist from server'.I just discovered, I
 cant find my smb.conf file in the samba directory. I wonder if that might be
 the problem.

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smb.conf is in /etc/samba/

smb.conf get's generated on installing Samba from memory, so if  you don't
have one samba didn't install correctly ?

Just running testparm on it's own will look in the default dir.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-04 Thread John MM

On 04/03/11 10:59, Andy Partington wrote:


smb.conf is in /etc/samba/

smb.conf get's generated on installing Samba from memory, so if  you 
don't have one samba didn't install correctly ?


Just running testparm on it's own will look in the default dir.



Hi, thank you for the reply, ok, so how can I uninstall completely, then 
reinstall, would it be best to do that through Synaptic or the terminal, 
if the terminal, what command would I use to do that? smb.conf is not 
there.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-04 Thread John MM
Ok, went ahead, and uninstalled using the Terminal. Rebooted, then 
installed using Terminal. Now, when I go to add Directories to share, I 
get this error


'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert 
name Everyone to a SID. Memory allocation error'


I now have an smb.conf file. What should I do now?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-04 Thread John MM
Ok, fixed that problem, but when I go into PlacesNetwork, and click on 
the Windows Icon, I still get 'Unable to mount location - Failed to 
retrieve share list from server'


I have tried everything, why should I still be getting that error message.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-04 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 04/03/11 11:30, John MM wrote:

Ok, went ahead, and uninstalled using the Terminal. Rebooted, then
installed using Terminal. Now, when I go to add Directories to share, I
get this error

'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert
name Everyone to a SID. Memory allocation error'

I now have an smb.conf file. What should I do now?


Does this short thread help?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1318879

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-04 Thread John MM

On 04/03/11 12:08, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

On 04/03/11 11:30, John MM wrote:

Ok, went ahead, and uninstalled using the Terminal. Rebooted, then
installed using Terminal. Now, when I go to add Directories to share, I
get this error

'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert
name Everyone to a SID. Memory allocation error'

I now have an smb.conf file. What should I do now?


Does this short thread help?

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1318879

Al



I saw that thread, tried evberything on there, didnt help..thank you 
for posting though.


I have everything fixed I think apart from, Places?Network.and the 
Windows Icon saying unable to mount, and its very frustrating. I've 
pinged the netbook, and pinged from the netbook to thins computer, and 
they can see each other, I just cant view the directories


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-04 Thread John MM
Ok, I just wondered, can I ask the question again, I have managed to get 
the computers to see each other, but I cannot get Nautilus to show the 
directories, from either the Ubuntu partition or the Windows Partition. 
When I go into PlacesNetwork, I click on the Icon in there, and still 
get Unable to mount location - Failed to retrieve share list from 
server. I have searched for that using Google, not much comes up, that I 
can understand anyway. I am still wondering if it is a 
Permissions/ownership thing. Is there a command in the Terminal I can 
use to see why Nautilus camt view the files.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 01/03/11 18:45, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

On 01/03/11 18:11, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

It appears that installing Samba from the Ubuntu Software Centre
doesn't actually install Samba - it installs something else!
I've now installed Samba4 from Synaptic and running sudo netstat -auntp
| grep samba on both machines gives me something like this:


Samba 4 is quite new and not really what most peeps use yet as far as 
I'm aware.


I'm running Samba 3.4.7 on my server (10.04) and a client machine 
(10.10) is showing 3.5.4. These are the standard versions AFAICT.


On my home server that runs samba I have to look for smb and nmb to 
find what if samba daemons are listening to the correct ports.


sudo netstat -auntp | grep nmbd

sudo netstat -auntp | grep smbd

These are the names of the Samba daemons. The samba client is part of 
the Linux kernel and does not need any extra software to use it.


from any computer try smbtree as this will show you what Samba can see 
on the LAN.


I'd suggest Googling for some Samba expert tips rather than blindly 
installing Samba4 possibly on on top of samba3.


Find your smb.conf and let people see what's in there too (obviously 
remove any sensitive data).


Al





Hi, Has anybody managed to get this sorted, has it been taken off list. 
I have been trying to follow what is going on, but the thread seems to 
have dried up, can somebldy still help?


what is smbtree?



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 03/03/11 08:51, John MM wrote:


what is smbtree?



Open a terminal and type man smbtree

NAME
   smbtree - A text based smb network browser

SYNOPSIS
   smbtree [-b] [-D] [-S]

DESCRIPTION
   This tool is part of the samba(7) suite.

smbtree is a smb browser program in text mode. It is similar to the 
Network Neighborhood found on Windows computers. It prints a tree with 
all the known domains, the servers in those domains and the shares on 
the servers.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 09:22, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

On 03/03/11 08:51, John MM wrote:


what is smbtree?



Open a terminal and type man smbtree

NAME
smbtree - A text based smb network browser

SYNOPSIS
smbtree [-b] [-D] [-S]

DESCRIPTION
This tool is part of the samba(7) suite.

smbtree is a smb browser program in text mode. It is similar to the 
Network Neighborhood found on Windows computers. It prints a tree 
with all the known domains, the servers in those domains and the 
shares on the servers.


Al


Um, ok 'man' has been proven to be difficult to understand even by the 
best of you, it isnt written for newbies, and I look at it, and it makes 
absoluteluy no sense to me at all.


Why the sarcasm, all I have done is ask a question based on this thread? 
I wasnt being nasty. So why the attitude?


The sarcastic answer still doesnt help, how can I use smbtree to help 
me. You were going to help the OP, what is different with my question? I 
have found out more in htis thread, than at any other time, when I have 
asked similar questions about error 255, but the thread stopped, and has 
gone nowhere. So I know there is an answer there somewhere. I just 
wondered if somebody could help,


Thank you.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 3 March 2011 11:01, John MM scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 03/03/11 09:22, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

 On 03/03/11 08:51, John MM wrote:


 what is smbtree?


 Open a terminal and type man smbtree

 NAME
 smbtree - A text based smb network browser

 SYNOPSIS
 smbtree [-b] [-D] [-S]

 DESCRIPTION
 This tool is part of the samba(7) suite.

 smbtree is a smb browser program in text mode. It is similar to the
 Network Neighborhood found on Windows computers. It prints a tree with all
 the known domains, the servers in those domains and the shares on the
 servers.

 Al


 Um, ok 'man' has been proven to be difficult to understand even by the best
 of you, it isnt written for newbies, and I look at it, and it makes
 absoluteluy no sense to me at all.

 Why the sarcasm, all I have done is ask a question based on this thread? I
 wasnt being nasty. So why the attitude?

 The sarcastic answer still doesnt help, how can I use smbtree to help me.
 You were going to help the OP, what is different with my question? I have
 found out more in htis thread, than at any other time, when I have asked
 similar questions about error 255, but the thread stopped, and has gone
 nowhere. So I know there is an answer there somewhere. I just wondered if
 somebody could help,

 Thank you.


A quick Google would also show that there isn't much more to know than what
is in the man page. Smbtree prints a list of available servers and devices
in your domain in the same way as Network Neighborhood does in Windows, but
it does it on the command line, through Terminal in Ubuntu. If you have a
use for that, then use it. If you don't, and unless you have machines that
have SMB shares that don't have some kind of GUI, then you probably don't.

In my experience, if you don't get an answer to a question on a mailing list
or forum it's because no-one reading has an answer. This is just a fact of
life. However, if you google 'samba error 255 ubuntu' you will find a lot of
data relating to the problem that causes it. It appears to relate to
permissions on /var/lib/samba/usershares.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 11:44, Simon Greenwood wrote:
A quick Google would also show that there isn't much more to know than 
what is in the man page. Smbtree prints a list of available servers 
and devices in your domain in the same way as Network Neighborhood 
does in Windows, but it does it on the command line, through Terminal 
in Ubuntu. If you have a use for that, then use it. If you don't, and 
unless you have machines that have SMB shares that don't have some 
kind of GUI, then you probably don't.


In my experience, if you don't get an answer to a question on a 
mailing list or forum it's because no-one reading has an answer. This 
is just a fact of life. However, if you google 'samba error 255 
ubuntu' you will find a lot of data relating to the problem that 
causes it. It appears to relate to permissions on 
/var/lib/samba/usershares.


s/


But in response to this, the op was getting an answer, through the 
group, which then suddenly stopped, which indicatges it went off board. 
Its kind of frustratng seeing the answer unfold, for it to stop 
unfolding. Its also kind of frustrating having asked the same questions, 
to have gotten nowhere, previously.


I have looked, via google, tried a few things, but most of which are 
over my head, which is why I attempted to ask here.


You mention permissions relating to /var/lib/samba/usershares I have no 
idea what that means, could you explain a little bit more.




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 11:44, Simon Greenwood wrote:
A quick Google would also show that there isn't much more to know than 
what is in the man page. Smbtree prints a list of available servers 
and devices in your domain in the same way as Network Neighborhood 
does in Windows, but it does it on the command line, through Terminal 
in Ubuntu. If you have a use for that, then use it. If you don't, and 
unless you have machines that have SMB shares that don't have some 
kind of GUI, then you probably don't.


In my experience, if you don't get an answer to a question on a 
mailing list or forum it's because no-one reading has an answer. This 
is just a fact of life. However, if you google 'samba error 255 
ubuntu' you will find a lot of data relating to the problem that 
causes it. It appears to relate to permissions on 
/var/lib/samba/usershares.


s/


Just out of a matter of interest, something doesnt add up here, you have 
answered quite at length to the OP's questions about Networking, yet, 
you reply to my question with, go google it. There is something not 
quite right there.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 03/03/11 11:01, John MM wrote:


Um, ok 'man' has been proven to be difficult to understand even by the
best of you, it isnt written for newbies, and I look at it, and it makes
absoluteluy no sense to me at all.


What is hard to understand?

smbtree is a smb browser program in text mode. It is similar to the 
Network Neighborhood found on Windows computers. It prints a tree with 
all the known domains, the servers in those domains and the shares on 
the servers. 



Why the sarcasm, all I have done is ask a question based on this thread?
I wasnt being nasty. So why the attitude?


I wasn't being sarcastic at all. I replied to your question with the 
answer.




The sarcastic answer still doesnt help, how can I use smbtree to help
me. You were going to help the OP, what is different with my question? I
have found out more in htis thread, than at any other time, when I have
asked similar questions about error 255, but the thread stopped, and has
gone nowhere. So I know there is an answer there somewhere. I just
wondered if somebody could help,


Erm, I wasn't being sarcastic. You didn't say you had a problem, you 
asked what smbtree was. I supplied a comprehensive answer IMHO.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 12:00, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

On 03/03/11 11:01, John MM wrote:


Um, ok 'man' has been proven to be difficult to understand even by the
best of you, it isnt written for newbies, and I look at it, and it makes
absoluteluy no sense to me at all.


What is hard to understand?

smbtree is a smb browser program in text mode. It is similar to the 
Network Neighborhood found on Windows computers. It prints a tree 
with all the known domains, the servers in those domains and the 
shares on the servers. 



Why the sarcasm, all I have done is ask a question based on this thread?
I wasnt being nasty. So why the attitude?


I wasn't being sarcastic at all. I replied to your question with the 
answer.




The sarcastic answer still doesnt help, how can I use smbtree to help
me. You were going to help the OP, what is different with my question? I
have found out more in htis thread, than at any other time, when I have
asked similar questions about error 255, but the thread stopped, and has
gone nowhere. So I know there is an answer there somewhere. I just
wondered if somebody could help,


Erm, I wasn't being sarcastic. You didn't say you had a problem, you 
asked what smbtree was. I supplied a comprehensive answer IMHO.


Al 


I did actaully say I had the same problem the error 255, you must have 
missed the e-mail.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 03/03/11 11:47, John MM wrote:


I did actaully say I had the same problem the error 255, you must have
missed the e-mail.




Hi, Has anybody managed to get this sorted, has it been taken off list. 
I have been trying to follow what is going on, but the thread seems to 
have dried up, can somebldy still help?


what is smbtree?


Nope. That's the *full* text of message I replied to (I thought I was 
being helpful), with a quick and comprehensive answer.


If you have a particular problem you might be better to start a new 
thread describing the issue you have with as much detail and symptoms as 
you can.


Cheers

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 3 March 2011 11:34, John MM scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 03/03/11 11:44, Simon Greenwood wrote:

 A quick Google would also show that there isn't much more to know than
 what is in the man page. Smbtree prints a list of available servers and
 devices in your domain in the same way as Network Neighborhood does in
 Windows, but it does it on the command line, through Terminal in Ubuntu. If
 you have a use for that, then use it. If you don't, and unless you have
 machines that have SMB shares that don't have some kind of GUI, then you
 probably don't.

 In my experience, if you don't get an answer to a question on a mailing
 list or forum it's because no-one reading has an answer. This is just a fact
 of life. However, if you google 'samba error 255 ubuntu' you will find a lot
 of data relating to the problem that causes it. It appears to relate to
 permissions on /var/lib/samba/usershares.

 s/


 But in response to this, the op was getting an answer, through the group,
 which then suddenly stopped, which indicatges it went off board. Its kind of
 frustratng seeing the answer unfold, for it to stop unfolding. Its also kind
 of frustrating having asked the same questions, to have gotten nowhere,
 previously.

 I have looked, via google, tried a few things, but most of which are over
 my head, which is why I attempted to ask here.

 You mention permissions relating to /var/lib/samba/usershares I have no
 idea what that means, could you explain a little bit more.


OK, I've just had a look back for your original query, and it would appear
that you're trying to connect two machines running Ubuntu using Samba. The
people who replied suggested that you don't use Samba and use SSHFS instead,
which is built into Nautilus, the reason being that Samba is an
implementation of Microsoft's SMB networking protocol that is mostly reverse
engineered, and as such is not well documented and prone to bugs. I have no
other information than that which I looked up and found here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1026668, for which the remedy
appears to be add your user to the group 'sambashares', change the group
permission on the directory /var/lib/samba/usershares and possibly log in
and log out.

In response to your second reply, yes, I probably did as it's something that
I know a bit about and have experience in similar problems. However, I don't
know anything about your problem so I am using Google and can only give you
the same response that Google would give you, which seems to be a valid one.

This is how mailing lists and message boards and the like work. People are
doing this because they have experience to offer, but only if it's relevant
to a problem. If they have no experience in a problem then there is no point
in trying to offer something other than known facts.

One of the major things about Ubuntu is that there is a wealth of
information available and that other people may have had similar problems,
and the way to find that is to use the search engine of your choice. No-one
is obliged to give you an answer, but many will try to help within reason.

s/

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 12:13, Alan Lord (News) wrote:

On 03/03/11 11:47, John MM wrote:


I did actaully say I had the same problem the error 255, you must have
missed the e-mail.




Hi, Has anybody managed to get this sorted, has it been taken off 
list. I have been trying to follow what is going on, but the thread 
seems to have dried up, can somebldy still help?


what is smbtree?


Nope. That's the *full* text of message I replied to (I thought I was 
being helpful), with a quick and comprehensive answer.


If you have a particular problem you might be better to start a new 
thread describing the issue you have with as much detail and symptoms 
as you can.


Cheers

Al


I havent started a new thread, because this one, as I have pointed out, 
deals with the same I am having, with the error 255. It was started to 
be dealt with, then stopped. Which indicated it had gone off board. It 
seems strange to me so much effort is being taken to point out my short 
comings, and get told to go use 'man' and google, and unlike the op 
actually get some form of help. Why is it different? Now, its become a 
flame, I never intended that.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 03/03/11 12:17, Simon Greenwood wrote:

OK, I've just had a look back for your original query, and it would
appear that you're trying to connect two machines running Ubuntu using
Samba. The people who replied suggested that you don't use Samba and use
SSHFS instead, which is built into Nautilus, the reason being that Samba
is an implementation of Microsoft's SMB networking protocol that is
mostly reverse engineered, and as such is not well documented and prone
to bugs.


Erm, that's not actually correct.

This is no longer the case http://news.samba.org/announcements/pfif/

20 December 2007
Samba Team Receives Microsoft Protocol Docs

Today the Protocol Freedom Information Foundation (PFIF), a non-profit 
organization created by the Software Freedom Law Center, signed an 
agreement with Microsoft to receive the protocol documentation needed to 
fully interoperate with the Microsoft Windows workgroup server products 
and to make them available to Free Software projects such as Samba.


Microsoft was required to make this information available to competitors 
as part of the European Commission March 24th 2004 Decision in the 
antitrust lawsuit, after losing their appeal against that decision on 
September 17th 2007.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 12:17, Simon Greenwood wrote:
OK, I've just had a look back for your original query, and it would 
appear that you're trying to connect two machines running Ubuntu using 
Samba. The people who replied suggested that you don't use Samba and 
use SSHFS instead, which is built into Nautilus, the reason being that 
Samba is an implementation of Microsoft's SMB networking protocol that 
is mostly reverse engineered, and as such is not well documented and 
prone to bugs. I have no other information than that which I looked up 
and found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1026668, for 
which the remedy appears to be add your user to the group 
'sambashares', change the group permission on the directory 
/var/lib/samba/usershares and possibly log in and log out.


In response to your second reply, yes, I probably did as it's 
something that I know a bit about and have experience in similar 
problems. However, I don't know anything about your problem so I am 
using Google and can only give you the same response that Google would 
give you, which seems to be a valid one.


This is how mailing lists and message boards and the like work. People 
are doing this because they have experience to offer, but only if it's 
relevant to a problem. If they have no experience in a problem then 
there is no point in trying to offer something other than known facts.


One of the major things about Ubuntu is that there is a wealth of 
information available and that other people may have had similar 
problems, and the way to find that is to use the search engine of your 
choice. No-one is obliged to give you an answer, but many will try to 
help within reason.


s/


Ok, I appreciate that, but is very frustrating, when an op comes along 
with a similar problem, they get asked questions, given help, and none 
of this 'we help you because we can, and not because we have to 
attitude, I asked a question, the same as the op, I do feel like I am 
being pushed away. Esecially since a similar question is being put 
forward. Why are you bringing that up. What is the difference between 
the op asking a quesiton and me asking a question.




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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 3 March 2011 12:23, Alan Lord (News) alansli...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 03/03/11 12:17, Simon Greenwood wrote:

 OK, I've just had a look back for your original query, and it would
 appear that you're trying to connect two machines running Ubuntu using
 Samba. The people who replied suggested that you don't use Samba and use
 SSHFS instead, which is built into Nautilus, the reason being that Samba
 is an implementation of Microsoft's SMB networking protocol that is
 mostly reverse engineered, and as such is not well documented and prone
 to bugs.


 Erm, that's not actually correct.

 This is no longer the case http://news.samba.org/announcements/pfif/

 20 December 2007
 Samba Team Receives Microsoft Protocol Docs

 Today the Protocol Freedom Information Foundation (PFIF), a non-profit
 organization created by the Software Freedom Law Center, signed an agreement
 with Microsoft to receive the protocol documentation needed to fully
 interoperate with the Microsoft Windows workgroup server products and to
 make them available to Free Software projects such as Samba.

 Microsoft was required to make this information available to competitors as
 part of the European Commission March 24th 2004 Decision in the antitrust
 lawsuit, after losing their appeal against that decision on September 17th
 2007.


Yes, I know about that, but I thought that the full implementation is only
in Samba 4. I genuinely don't know how much has been ported into 3, which is
still the version in most Linux distributions. I am a bit out of date with
it.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 3 March 2011 12:08, John MM scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 03/03/11 12:17, Simon Greenwood wrote:

 OK, I've just had a look back for your original query, and it would appear
 that you're trying to connect two machines running Ubuntu using Samba. The
 people who replied suggested that you don't use Samba and use SSHFS instead,
 which is built into Nautilus, the reason being that Samba is an
 implementation of Microsoft's SMB networking protocol that is mostly reverse
 engineered, and as such is not well documented and prone to bugs. I have no
 other information than that which I looked up and found here:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1026668, for which the remedy
 appears to be add your user to the group 'sambashares', change the group
 permission on the directory /var/lib/samba/usershares and possibly log in
 and log out.

 In response to your second reply, yes, I probably did as it's something
 that I know a bit about and have experience in similar problems. However, I
 don't know anything about your problem so I am using Google and can only
 give you the same response that Google would give you, which seems to be a
 valid one.

 This is how mailing lists and message boards and the like work. People are
 doing this because they have experience to offer, but only if it's relevant
 to a problem. If they have no experience in a problem then there is no point
 in trying to offer something other than known facts.

 One of the major things about Ubuntu is that there is a wealth of
 information available and that other people may have had similar problems,
 and the way to find that is to use the search engine of your choice. No-one
 is obliged to give you an answer, but many will try to help within reason.

 s/


 Ok, I appreciate that, but is very frustrating, when an op comes along with
 a similar problem, they get asked questions, given help, and none of this
 'we help you because we can, and not because we have to attitude, I asked a
 question, the same as the op, I do feel like I am being pushed away.
 Esecially since a similar question is being put forward. Why are you
 bringing that up. What is the difference between the op asking a quesiton
 and me asking a question.


As far as I'm concerned, absolutely nothing. A similar question doesn't
necessarily have a similar answer. I have to point out that you were given a
solution, which was basically 'don't use samba', which I think is a
reasonable reply. I have to admit that I would automatically use samba in
such a situation myself as I have Linux machines, Windows machines and Macs
at home and it's really the only common protocol for sharing directories
across all three platforms, but for Ubuntu-only, there are other solutions.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 12:17, Simon Greenwood wrote:
OK, I've just had a look back for your original query, and it would 
appear that you're trying to connect two machines running Ubuntu using 
Samba. The people who replied suggested that you don't use Samba and 
use SSHFS instead, which is built into Nautilus, the reason being that 
Samba is an implementation of Microsoft's SMB networking protocol that 
is mostly reverse engineered, and as such is not well documented and 
prone to bugs. I have no other information than that which I looked up 
and found here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1026668, for 
which the remedy appears to be add your user to the group 
'sambashares', change the group permission on the directory 
/var/lib/samba/usershares and possibly log in and log out.
Ok, I had a clean install of my other netbook, in Network, it has two 
Icons, one for Windows, one for Ubuntu, both of which I can click on, 
and open the directories I want. In the problem computer, Only the 
Windows Icon is there, and if clicked on it gives an error 'unable to 
mount'. I get the error 255 the same way as the OP gets it.


Now, what you mentione above, how would I go about doing what you 
suggested, which I have added in red colour? I dont have the experience 
you have. I am a quick learner though, but I need to be shown.


In response to your second reply, yes, I probably did as it's 
something that I know a bit about and have experience in similar 
problems. However, I don't know anything about your problem so I am 
using Google and can only give you the same response that Google would 
give you, which seems to be a valid one.


So, with the experience you have, what do you need to know, in order for 
you to make any form of judgement? I can only give information based on 
my knowledge, which isnt huge.


I am just asking a questsion, I am not making any demands.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 12:40, Simon Greenwood wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, absolutely nothing. A similar question 
doesn't necessarily have a similar answer. I have to point out that 
you were given a solution, which was basically 'don't use samba', 
which I think is a reasonable reply. I have to admit that I would 
automatically use samba in such a situation myself as I have Linux 
machines, Windows machines and Macs at home and it's really the only 
common protocol for sharing directories across all three platforms, 
but for Ubuntu-only, there are other solutions.


s/


As per the op, if you didnt know something I saw that you asked him, so 
what makes that any different to my situation, but instead of asking me, 
I got a whole different thing altogether. Why is it that you ask one 
person, and not another? Not directed at just one person.


I think in my origional message I talked about windows directory, when I 
mentioned the Icons in Network. and not being able to mount on one. On 
this machine I am using, its a windows machine, with my Ubuntu 
partitioned. I can get to see the windows partition, but going to 
Filesystem, but this machine cannot be found using the network. I asked 
about using SSH, because it was something that maybe I might have been 
able to use, but I could work out how to use it.


How do I get smbtree to even come up. Where is it? Maybe if I could get 
that to work, I might get a reason why thispc wont share?





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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 3 March 2011 12:26, John MM scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 03/03/11 12:17, Simon Greenwood wrote:

 OK, I've just had a look back for your original query, and it would appear
 that you're trying to connect two machines running Ubuntu using Samba. The
 people who replied suggested that you don't use Samba and use SSHFS instead,
 which is built into Nautilus, the reason being that Samba is an
 implementation of Microsoft's SMB networking protocol that is mostly reverse
 engineered, and as such is not well documented and prone to bugs. I have no
 other information than that which I looked up and found here:
 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1026668, for which the remedy
 appears to be add your user to the group 'sambashares', change the group
 permission on the directory /var/lib/samba/usershares and possibly log in
 and log out.

 Ok, I had a clean install of my other netbook, in Network, it has two
 Icons, one for Windows, one for Ubuntu, both of which I can click on, and
 open the directories I want. In the problem computer, Only the Windows Icon
 is there, and if clicked on it gives an error 'unable to mount'. I get the
 error 255 the same way as the OP gets it.

 Now, what you mentione above, how would I go about doing what you
 suggested, which I have added in red colour? I dont have the experience you
 have. I am a quick learner though, but I need to be shown.


Right, your computers are both detecting that you have a Windows network. I
*assume*, and I don't know this as I don't currently have an Ubuntu machine
to hand, that your netbook is detecting some kind of native Ubuntu share. In
the Windows network you should be able to see any Windows machines on your
network that have the same workgroup or Windows domain. I can't remember how
to set this up off the top of my head, but that is basically what you need
to do.


 In response to your second reply, yes, I probably did as it's something
 that I know a bit about and have experience in similar problems. However, I
 don't know anything about your problem so I am using Google and can only
 give you the same response that Google would give you, which seems to be a
 valid one.


 So, with the experience you have, what do you need to know, in order for
 you to make any form of judgement? I can only give information based on my
 knowledge, which isnt huge.

 I am just asking a questsion, I am not making any demands.


You're misunderstanding me here: I mean information relating to a solution
to the problem that you have, which I don't have, short of searching for it,
which you can do yourself. I'm not trying to fob you off, merely suggesting
that much of what you want to know will be available on the web and indeed
using man and info at the command line. The situation with smbtree is that
what is available is basically the man page. I'm not familiar with it and I
don't know even whether it's present in Ubuntu, but from the man page,
running 'smbtree -D domain would appear to give you a list of machines in
your domain if you have one.

As to your second response to this, would I be correct in assuming that you
have a dual booting machine? You will be able to see your Windows file
system in Ubuntu as Ubuntu mounts it, but you can't see your Ubuntu
partition in Windows as Windows can't see the Ubuntu filesystem. However,
Windows is not running when Ubuntu is running and as such would not be
visible on your network. Does that make sense?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 13:19, Simon Greenwood wrote:

running 'smbtree -D domain


How do I find out what domain is, is it my IP address or what?

As far as this machine, it seems if I go to /var/lib/samba/usershares 
all the files in there are locked. They have a lock on them. Before 
updating to 10.04, I could go into Places, Network, and in there would 
be a Windows Icon and a Ubuntu Icon, both of which if I clicked on them, 
would mount the respective directories. Now it seems its locked me out. 
Plus if I go the same as the op to a directory I want to share, as root, 
it shows I can share, as me I am locked out.


I is a dual booting machine, running 10.10 Ubuntu.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

Just to show, when I try to share, the message I get is

'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: failed to add 
share documents. Error was Operation not permitted'


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 3 March 2011 13:23, John MM scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 03/03/11 13:19, Simon Greenwood wrote:

 running 'smbtree -D domain


 How do I find out what domain is, is it my IP address or what?


A Windows domain is the name given to an office network that is managed by a
domain controller, which is a server. I don't think you've got a domain in
that respect, so I think we're going off in the wrong direction.


 As far as this machine, it seems if I go to /var/lib/samba/usershares all
 the files in there are locked. They have a lock on them. Before updating to
 10.04, I could go into Places, Network, and in there would be a Windows Icon
 and a Ubuntu Icon, both of which if I clicked on them, would mount the
 respective directories. Now it seems its locked me out. Plus if I go the
 same as the op to a directory I want to share, as root, it shows I can
 share, as me I am locked out.

 I is a dual booting machine, running 10.10 Ubuntu.


The lock means that they are owned by root or another user, but most likely
root. I think I need to do this with a machine running Ubuntu in front of
me, so I'll get back to you tonight.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 13:54, Simon Greenwood wrote:
The lock means that they are owned by root or another user, but most 
likely root. I think I need to do this with a machine running Ubuntu 
in front of me, so I'll get back to you tonight.


s/



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 3 March 2011 13:46, John MM scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 03/03/11 13:54, Simon Greenwood wrote:

 The lock means that they are owned by root or another user, but most
 likely root. I think I need to do this with a machine running Ubuntu in
 front of me, so I'll get back to you tonight.

 s/



 Ok, thank you.


OK, I'm home now...

Try this: open a terminal by clicking on Applications | Accessories |
Terminal
Check that you are a member of the sambashare group by typing 'id your user
name'. You'll get output like this:
uid=1000(simong) gid=1000(simong)
groups=1000(simong),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),29(audio),46(plugdev),104(fuse),110(netdev),111(lpadmin),119(admin),122(sambashare),123(vboxusers)
If sambashare is in the list, do the following:
Type 'sudo chgrp sambashare /var/lib/samba/usershares'
Enter your password when prompted.
This will let members of the sambashare group (you) write to the usershares
folder, which would appear to resolve the problem that I googled. You might
have to log out and log in again.

HTH
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 18:50, Simon Greenwood wrote:



On 3 March 2011 13:46, John MM scoundrel...@gmail.com 
mailto:scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:


On 03/03/11 13:54, Simon Greenwood wrote:

The lock means that they are owned by root or another user,
but most likely root. I think I need to do this with a machine
running Ubuntu in front of me, so I'll get back to you tonight.

s/



Ok, thank you.


OK, I'm home now...

Try this: open a terminal by clicking on Applications | Accessories | 
Terminal
Check that you are a member of the sambashare group by typing 'id 
your user name'. You'll get output like this:
uid=1000(simong) gid=1000(simong) 
groups=1000(simong),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),29(audio),46(plugdev),104(fuse),110(netdev),111(lpadmin),119(admin),122(sambashare),123(vboxusers)

If sambashare is in the list, do the following:
Type 'sudo chgrp sambashare /var/lib/samba/usershares'
Enter your password when prompted.
This will let members of the sambashare group (you) write to the 
usershares folder, which would appear to resolve the problem that I 
googled. You might have to log out and log in again.


HTH
s/


Hi, sorry I just got this now. I tried that, and it doesnt seem to work. 
Now since entering sudo chgrp sambashare /var/lib/samba/usershares, I no 
longer have locks next to each directory, but I now have X's next to 
them. Now sure why that should have happened, I did exactly as you said. 
I can give the results to the output of id username if you want.



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 3 March 2011 19:38, John MM scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 03/03/11 18:50, Simon Greenwood wrote:



 On 3 March 2011 13:46, John MM scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 03/03/11 13:54, Simon Greenwood wrote:

 The lock means that they are owned by root or another user, but most
 likely root. I think I need to do this with a machine running Ubuntu in
 front of me, so I'll get back to you tonight.

 s/



  Ok, thank you.


  OK, I'm home now...

  Try this: open a terminal by clicking on Applications | Accessories |
 Terminal
 Check that you are a member of the sambashare group by typing 'id your
 user name'. You'll get output like this:
 uid=1000(simong) gid=1000(simong)
 groups=1000(simong),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),29(audio),46(plugdev),104(fuse),110(netdev),111(lpadmin),119(admin),122(sambashare),123(vboxusers)
 If sambashare is in the list, do the following:
 Type 'sudo chgrp sambashare /var/lib/samba/usershares'
 Enter your password when prompted.
 This will let members of the sambashare group (you) write to the usershares
 folder, which would appear to resolve the problem that I googled. You might
 have to log out and log in again.

  HTH
 s/


 Hi, sorry I just got this now. I tried that, and it doesnt seem to work.
 Now since entering sudo chgrp sambashare /var/lib/samba/usershares, I no
 longer have locks next to each directory, but I now have X's next to them.
 Now sure why that should have happened, I did exactly as you said. I can
 give the results to the output of id username if you want.


No, that's OK at the moment. /var/lib/samba/usershares should contain files
with the names of shares on your machine. These files should be owned by
you. If they aren't, from terminal, type 'sudo chown username:username
/var/lib/usershares/sharename'.

You should have something like this:
ls -l /var/lib/samba
drwxrwx--T  2 root sambashare  4096 2011-02-09 20:30 usershares
ls -l /var/lib/samba/usershares
-rw-r--r-- 1 simong simong 78 2011-02-09 20:30 music

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 19:57, Simon Greenwood wrote:
No, that's OK at the moment. /var/lib/samba/usershares should contain 
files with the names of shares on your machine. These files should be 
owned by you. If they aren't, from terminal, type 'sudo chown 
username:username /var/lib/usershares/sharename'.


You should have something like this:
ls -l /var/lib/samba
drwxrwx--T  2 root sambashare  4096 2011-02-09 20:30 usershares
ls -l /var/lib/samba/usershares
-rw-r--r-- 1 simong simong 78 2011-02-09 20:30 music

s/




Ok, when I try to cd to samba, it says no file or directory, even though 
I can see it. I can cd to /lib but that is it.


I wonder if that is why?

but when I do ls -l /var/lib/samba I get

drwxrwx--T  2 root sambashare  4096 2011-03-03 19:34 usershares

all other directories in that folder are root root

this is what else is in that directory

-rw---  1 root root   16384 2009-08-24 22:29 account_policy.tdb
-rw---  1 root root   77824 2009-08-24 22:29 group_mapping.ldb
-rw---  1 root root8192 2009-08-24 22:29 ntdrivers.tdb
-rw---  1 root root 696 2009-08-24 22:29 ntforms.tdb
-rw---  1 root root   20480 2010-10-15 19:48 ntprinters.tdb
-rw---  1 root root   36864 2011-03-03 19:33 passdb.tdb
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root4096 2009-08-24 22:29 perfmon
drwxr-xr-x 10 root root4096 2009-08-24 22:29 printers
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root4096 2011-03-01 18:26 private
-rw---  1 root root   36864 2009-10-14 21:00 registry.tdb
-rw---  1 root root   24576 2009-06-04 14:19 secrets.tdb
-rw---  1 root root   36864 2009-11-12 19:59 share_info.tdb
drwxrwx--T  2 root sambashare  4096 2011-03-03 19:34 usershares
-rw-r--r--  1 root root8192 2009-08-24 22:29 winbindd_idmap.tdb

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 19:57, Simon Greenwood wrote:


No, that's OK at the moment. /var/lib/samba/usershares should contain 
files with the names of shares on your machine. These files should be 
owned by you. If they aren't, from terminal, type 'sudo chown 
username:username /var/lib/usershares/sharename'.


You should have something like this:
ls -l /var/lib/samba
drwxrwx--T  2 root sambashare  4096 2011-02-09 20:30 usershares
ls -l /var/lib/samba/usershares
-rw-r--r-- 1 simong simong 78 2011-02-09 20:30 music

s/


ok, after reading that a bit more, and fiddling a bit, I have managed to 
cd to usershares, and ls -l to view permissions. Funny thing, some of 
the files have username some have root. I get what you are trying to 
say, about changing permissions and ownership of directories inside 
usershares, but if I am in usershares, how does that change the command? 
I dont want to mess it up.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 19:57, Simon Greenwood wrote:
No, that's OK at the moment. /var/lib/samba/usershares should contain 
files with the names of shares on your machine. These files should be 
owned by you. If they aren't, from terminal, type 'sudo chown 
username:username /var/lib/usershares/sharename'.


You should have something like this:
ls -l /var/lib/samba
drwxrwx--T  2 root sambashare  4096 2011-02-09 20:30 usershares
ls -l /var/lib/samba/usershares
-rw-r--r-- 1 simong simong 78 2011-02-09 20:30 music

s/



Yay, it worked, I managed to work it out, and get my Desktop to be 
shared. How do I make it so that all files in the folder are changed at 
once?


Just needed a little pointing in the right direction, that is all it too.

One question though, how secure is the now?

brilliant.told you I learn quick.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 03/03/11 19:57, Simon Greenwood wrote:




No, that's OK at the moment. /var/lib/samba/usershares should contain 
files with the names of shares on your machine. These files should be 
owned by you. If they aren't, from terminal, type 'sudo chown 
username:username /var/lib/usershares/sharename'.


You should have something like this:
ls -l /var/lib/samba
drwxrwx--T  2 root sambashare  4096 2011-02-09 20:30 usershares
ls -l /var/lib/samba/usershares
-rw-r--r-- 1 simong simong 78 2011-02-09 20:30 music

s/


Well, got rid of the error 255, but still cant see the directories from 
the other computer, so something is still stopping the network.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 3 March 2011 21:17, John MM scoundrel...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 03/03/11 19:57, Simon Greenwood wrote:



  No, that's OK at the moment. /var/lib/samba/usershares should contain
 files with the names of shares on your machine. These files should be owned
 by you. If they aren't, from terminal, type 'sudo chown
 username:username /var/lib/usershares/sharename'.

  You should have something like this:
 ls -l /var/lib/samba
 drwxrwx--T  2 root sambashare  4096 2011-02-09 20:30 usershares
 ls -l /var/lib/samba/usershares
 -rw-r--r-- 1 simong simong 78 2011-02-09 20:30 music

  s/


 Well, got rid of the error 255, but still cant see the directories from the
 other computer, so something is still stopping the network.


Check that you can ping either computer each way, that SMB sharing is set up
on your netbook - it isn't installed by default as Gordon has pointed out,
and you'll have to search for Samba in the Software Centre.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 04/03/11 07:09, Simon Greenwood wrote:
Check that you can ping either computer each way, that SMB sharing is 
set up on your netbook - it isn't installed by default as Gordon has 
pointed out, and you'll have to search for Samba in the Software Centre.


s/


Um, when I look in the samba directory, it still has a lock on them. As 
far as having it installed, it is installed in Synaptic. How do I ping a 
machine?


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-03 Thread John MM

On 04/03/11 07:09, Simon Greenwood wrote:
Check that you can ping either computer each way, that SMB sharing is 
set up on your netbook - it isn't installed by default as Gordon has 
pointed out, and you'll have to search for Samba in the Software Centre.


s/



Appologies, just woke up, forget what I just said about the directories 
inside samba directory, the ones I want to share have no locks. I'm 
wondering, what are the permissions/ownership for the samba directory 
itself? Maybe that is why I cant see in the samba directory.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.comwrote:


 Why should the access be OK one way but not the other?


Firewall rules? Samba server started?  Check ufw status on both machines,
and output netstat -auntp to see whether the necessary samba ports are open
and samba is listening for connections :)
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 01/03/11 16:36, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker 
gbpli...@gmail.com mailto:gbpli...@gmail.com wrote:



Why should the access be OK one way but not the other?


Firewall rules? Samba server started?  Check ufw status on both 
machines, and output netstat -auntp to see whether the necessary samba 
ports are open and samba is listening for connections :)
Presumably I only need to do that on the Netbook as that's the one I 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:39 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.comwrote:

  On 01/03/11 16:36, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:

 On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker 
 gbpli...@gmail.comwrote:


 Why should the access be OK one way but not the other?


 Firewall rules? Samba server started?  Check ufw status on both machines,
 and output netstat -auntp to see whether the necessary samba ports are open
 and samba is listening for connections :)

 Presumably I only need to do that on the Netbook as that's the one I can't
 access?


Yes - sorry - I should have been more  descriptive :(

You should get something similar to the following:

$ sudo ufw status
Status: active

To Action  From
-- --  
Samba  ALLOW   Anywhere
Apache ALLOW   Anywhere
22 ALLOW   Anywhere
514/udpALLOW   Anywhere


$ sudo netstat -auntp | grep samba
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:10240.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  1186/samba
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:135 0.0.0.0:*
LISTEN  1186/samba
udp0  0 10.203.7.210:1370.0.0.0:*
1187/samba
udp0  0 10.203.7.255:1370.0.0.0:*
1187/samba
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:137 0.0.0.0:*
1187/samba
udp0  0 10.203.7.210:1380.0.0.0:*
1187/samba
udp0  0 10.203.7.255:1380.0.0.0:*
1187/samba
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:138 0.0.0.0:*
1187/samba

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 01/03/11 16:51, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:

You should get something similar to the following:

$ sudo ufw status
Status: active



Status inactive.
What does that imply?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Gordon Burgess-Parker gbpli...@gmail.comwrote:

 On 01/03/11 16:51, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:

 You should get something similar to the following:

 $ sudo ufw status
 Status: active

  Status inactive.
 What does that imply?


It's not Iptables that's stopping the connection.

Did you run  sudo netstat -auntp | grep samba

Does that output anything?  If not, you'll need to run
/etc/init.d/samba4/start and try again (assuming the samba server is
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 01/03/11 17:37, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:


Did you run  sudo netstat -auntp | grep samba



That's interesting - that command doesn't give any output on EITHER 
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 01/03/11 17:48, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

On 01/03/11 17:37, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:


Did you run  sudo netstat -auntp | grep samba



That's interesting - that command doesn't give any output on EITHER 
machine


OK. Update.
It appears that installing Samba from the Ubuntu Software Centre 
doesn't actually install Samba - it installs something else!
I've now installed Samba4 from Synaptic and running sudo netstat -auntp 
| grep samba on both machines gives me something like this:


On the laptop:
gordon@gordon-laptop:~$ sudo netstat -auntp | grep samba
[sudo] password for gordon:
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:10240.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  9168/samba
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:135 0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  9168/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.71:137
0.0.0.0:*   9169/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.255:137   
0.0.0.0:*   9169/samba
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:137 
0.0.0.0:*   9169/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.71:138
0.0.0.0:*   9169/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.255:138   
0.0.0.0:*   9169/samba
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:138 
0.0.0.0:*   9169/samba


And on the Netbook:
gordon@gordon-netbook:~$ sudo netstat -auntp |grep samba
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:10240.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  1933/samba
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:135 0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  1933/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.72:137
0.0.0.0:*   1934/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.255:137   
0.0.0.0:*   1934/samba
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:137 
0.0.0.0:*   1934/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.72:138
0.0.0.0:*   1934/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.255:138   
0.0.0.0:*   1934/samba
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:138 
0.0.0.0:*   1934/samba

gordon@gordon-netbook:~$

I still get the same error when trying to access the Netbook from the 
Laptop


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 01/03/11 18:11, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

On 01/03/11 17:48, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

On 01/03/11 17:37, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:


Did you run  sudo netstat -auntp | grep samba



That's interesting - that command doesn't give any output on EITHER 
machine


OK. Update.
It appears that installing Samba from the Ubuntu Software Centre 
doesn't actually install Samba - it installs something else!
I've now installed Samba4 from Synaptic and running sudo netstat 
-auntp | grep samba on both machines gives me something like this:


On the laptop:
gordon@gordon-laptop:~$ sudo netstat -auntp | grep samba
[sudo] password for gordon:
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:10240.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  9168/samba
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:135 0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  9168/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.71:137
0.0.0.0:*   9169/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.255:137   
0.0.0.0:*   9169/samba
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:137 
0.0.0.0:*   9169/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.71:138
0.0.0.0:*   9169/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.255:138   
0.0.0.0:*   9169/samba
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:138 
0.0.0.0:*   9169/samba


And on the Netbook:
gordon@gordon-netbook:~$ sudo netstat -auntp |grep samba
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:10240.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  1933/samba
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:135 0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  1933/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.72:137
0.0.0.0:*   1934/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.255:137   
0.0.0.0:*   1934/samba
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:137 
0.0.0.0:*   1934/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.72:138
0.0.0.0:*   1934/samba
udp0  0 192.168.1.255:138   
0.0.0.0:*   1934/samba
udp0  0 0.0.0.0:138 
0.0.0.0:*   1934/samba

gordon@gordon-netbook:~$

I still get the same error when trying to access the Netbook from the 
Laptop


I now have a problem sharing directories on the Netbook. If I 
right-click on a directory and choose Sharing Options and check the 
Share this folder box it now says :
'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert 
name Everyone to a SID. Memory allocation error.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Paul Morgan-Roach
I now have a problem sharing directories on the Netbook. If I right-click on
a directory and choose Sharing Options and check the Share this folder
box it now says :

 'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert name
 Everyone to a SID. Memory allocation error.

 Ok - can you try

$ sudo service samba4 restart

?
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 01/03/11 18:33, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:
I now have a problem sharing directories on the Netbook. If I 
right-click on a directory and choose Sharing Options and check the 
Share this folder box it now says :


'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot
convert name Everyone to a SID. Memory allocation error.

Ok - can you try

$ sudo service samba4 restart

?


I think I fixed that with a restart.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread John MM

On 01/03/11 18:18, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

On 01/03/11 18:11, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

On 01/03/11 17:48, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

On 01/03/11 17:37, Paul Morgan-Roach wrote:


Did you run sudo netstat -auntp | grep samba



That's interesting - that command doesn't give any output on EITHER 
machine


OK. Update.
It appears that installing Samba from the Ubuntu Software Centre 
doesn't actually install Samba - it installs something else!
I've now installed Samba4 from Synaptic and running sudo netstat 
-auntp | grep samba on both machines gives me something like this:


On the laptop:
gordon@gordon-laptop:~$ sudo netstat -auntp | grep samba
[sudo] password for gordon:
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:1024 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 9168/samba
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:135 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 9168/samba
udp 0 0 192.168.1.71:137 0.0.0.0:* 9169/samba
udp 0 0 192.168.1.255:137 0.0.0.0:* 9169/samba
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:137 0.0.0.0:* 9169/samba
udp 0 0 192.168.1.71:138 0.0.0.0:* 9169/samba
udp 0 0 192.168.1.255:138 0.0.0.0:* 9169/samba
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:138 0.0.0.0:* 9169/samba

And on the Netbook:
gordon@gordon-netbook:~$ sudo netstat -auntp |grep samba
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:1024 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1933/samba
tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:135 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1933/samba
udp 0 0 192.168.1.72:137 0.0.0.0:* 1934/samba
udp 0 0 192.168.1.255:137 0.0.0.0:* 1934/samba
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:137 0.0.0.0:* 1934/samba
udp 0 0 192.168.1.72:138 0.0.0.0:* 1934/samba
udp 0 0 192.168.1.255:138 0.0.0.0:* 1934/samba
udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:138 0.0.0.0:* 1934/samba
gordon@gordon-netbook:~$

I still get the same error when trying to access the Netbook from the 
Laptop


I now have a problem sharing directories on the Netbook. If I 
right-click on a directory and choose Sharing Options and check the 
Share this folder box it now says :
'net usershare' returned error 255: net usershare add: cannot convert 
name Everyone to a SID. Memory allocation error.




Now I would be very greatful for any help with this, as I have been 
having the same error for a while. I hope somebody can help.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Alan Lord (News)

On 01/03/11 18:11, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote:

It appears that installing Samba from the Ubuntu Software Centre
doesn't actually install Samba - it installs something else!
I've now installed Samba4 from Synaptic and running sudo netstat -auntp
| grep samba on both machines gives me something like this:


Samba 4 is quite new and not really what most peeps use yet as far as 
I'm aware.


I'm running Samba 3.4.7 on my server (10.04) and a client machine 
(10.10) is showing 3.5.4. These are the standard versions AFAICT.


On my home server that runs samba I have to look for smb and nmb to find 
what if samba daemons are listening to the correct ports.


sudo netstat -auntp | grep nmbd

sudo netstat -auntp | grep smbd

These are the names of the Samba daemons. The samba client is part of 
the Linux kernel and does not need any extra software to use it.


from any computer try smbtree as this will show you what Samba can see 
on the LAN.


I'd suggest Googling for some Samba expert tips rather than blindly 
installing Samba4 possibly on on top of samba3.


Find your smb.conf and let people see what's in there too (obviously 
remove any sensitive data).


Al



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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Strange file sharing problem

2011-03-01 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker

On 01/03/11 18:45, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
from any computer try smbtree as this will show you what Samba can see 
on the LAN.


On both machines that command gives precisely nothing!


Find your smb.conf and let people see what's in there too (obviously 
remove any sensitive data).



The smb.conf files appear to be exactly the same on both machines

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