Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-30 Thread Fintan Gaughan
Can I just say thank you everyone for volunteering to transcribe podcast.
As a deaf man my self I do really appreciate this and I will be
notifying deaf lug.
The hard part is the timing and guessing whos who speaking but try not
to worry about this as I am sure people will
help or just put ? or unknown speaker.
once its written other language translators  will find it easy as they
don't have to listen but read the transcript and translate it
.
And please dont forget to add your name at the end of it and email
address (you don't have to If you don't want to)  so you know how much
we apracte this.
Subtitles on TV does this and I know they get emails.

This sort of thing was talked  at LUGRadio but they gone off the idea
, don't know why but I cant complain as its a free service.

But anyway I thought id write and thanks to you all for comming up
with this idea.


Regards
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-26 Thread Andy
Hi

James Westby wrote:
> What version of "bzr" do you have installed?

A really old one. 0.8.2, I'm still on 6.06 LTS. (I haven't found the
time to upgrade yet ;))

>   bzr branch
> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~transcribers/ubuntu-uk-podcast/Transcripts

I think my version is just too old :(
Anyway if anyone wants to see what Transcribe generates look at my Wiki
page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AndyPress

I had to modify the text file because Transcribe decided it would do one
line per speaker, with no gaps in between so I inserted an extra blank
line and wrapped the long lines. Timing details can be found in the .trs
file (it's some form of XML).

It may need proof reading, particularly people names.

Do we want HTML versions with links to actual content. For example when
Mark Shuttleworth mentions Thunderbird do we want that to be a link to
the Thunderbird website?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-26 Thread Alan Pope
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 23:00 +0100, James Westby wrote:
> (there appears to be a newer branch owned by ~transcribers, so I
> took the liberty of pointing you there instead)
> 

We did some monkeying around today. We moved the repo to a team
specifically for doing transcriptions. I'll mail the list tomorrow with
more details.

In the meantime you might want to hold off until the mail is out.

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-26 Thread James Westby
On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 21:03 +0100, Andy wrote:
> Dave Walker wrote:
> > I've added what i have done into launchpad:
> > http://linkpot.net/guessable/
> 
> I get a 404 Error with that link.
> 
> > It's currently a branch under my launchpad area, and others can branch
> > it with:
> > $ bzr branch lp:~davewalker/ubuntu-uk-podcast/Transcripts
> > (install bazaar if needed)
> 
> I get an error with that command, it seems to be looking for a folder
> called 'lp:', should lp: be replaced with something else?
> 
> bzr branch lp:~davewalker/ubuntu-uk-podcast/Transcripts
> bzr: ERROR: Not a branch:
> /home/**/lp:~davewalker/ubuntu-uk-podcast/Transcripts/
> 
> Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I have used both CVS and SVN before but
> not Bazaar.

Hi,

What version of "bzr" do you have installed?

I think this might be caused by an old version of bzr. If this
is the case you can run

  bzr branch
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~transcribers/ubuntu-uk-podcast/Transcripts

(there appears to be a newer branch owned by ~transcribers, so I
took the liberty of pointing you there instead)

Thanks,

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-26 Thread Andy
Dave Walker wrote:
> I've added what i have done into launchpad:
> http://linkpot.net/guessable/

I get a 404 Error with that link.

> It's currently a branch under my launchpad area, and others can branch
> it with:
> $ bzr branch lp:~davewalker/ubuntu-uk-podcast/Transcripts
> (install bazaar if needed)

I get an error with that command, it seems to be looking for a folder
called 'lp:', should lp: be replaced with something else?

bzr branch lp:~davewalker/ubuntu-uk-podcast/Transcripts
bzr: ERROR: Not a branch:
/home/**/lp:~davewalker/ubuntu-uk-podcast/Transcripts/

Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I have used both CVS and SVN before but
not Bazaar.

Incidentally I have done the first 10 minutes of Episode 6. Not sure
where to put the result though.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-26 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Dave Walker wrote:
> I used the 'transcriber' application that i previously mentioned.
> Although it has it's limitations (spelling didn't always work as
> expected), i did find it a really good application for this task.


I will give that a whirl - thanks.

> It's currently a branch under my launchpad area, and others can branch
> it with:
> $ bzr branch lp:~davewalker/ubuntu-uk-podcast/Transcripts
> (install bazaar if needed)


Hmmm, not sure about using version control... I'm a programmer so I'm
happy to use it but not sure if it would be a barrier to others. That
said we're only talking about a couple of commands here. Wikis do store
revision history so perhaps that will suffice... depends what extra
formats we want to store etc - guess that's a question for Al as he's
the customer.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-26 Thread Dave Walker
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 22:33 +0100, Philip Stubbs wrote:

> I have made start.
> http://stuphi.co.uk/uupc_s01e01.txt
> 



Hi Philip,

That's great, thanks for making a start - good work.

I've also made a start on the first 10 minutes of episode 2.  I've made
a focus on readability also, and ignored "um's" and false starts in hope
to make it easier to read.

I used the 'transcriber' application that i previously mentioned.
Although it has it's limitations (spelling didn't always work as
expected), i did find it a really good application for this task.

One really good thing about it, you play and pause the audio with ,
then press + to change speaker (It did initially hide the OK
button, but you can stretch the dialogue window, and it seems to
remember).

I think this application is also particularly useful as it also logs the
timestamps of each entry, but can also export to standard plain text and
mediocre html.

I've added what i have done into launchpad:
http://linkpot.net/guessable/

It's currently a branch under my launchpad area, and others can branch
it with:
$ bzr branch lp:~davewalker/ubuntu-uk-podcast/Transcripts
(install bazaar if needed)

If those willing to get involved think this method of working is a good
solution, i'll move the source tree to an area where others can commit
to.

If you have any questions about using Launchpad, Bazaar (bzr) or
'transcriber' let me know - and i'll see if i can help.

Kind Regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Philip Stubbs
2008/6/25 Steve Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Alan Pope wrote:
>> Audacity? Which also has a slider to playback slowly, so you can play at
>> 0.8x speed which may be easier.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Al.
>>
> Thanks.  I'll get it installed now.
>
> Steve

I have made start.

http://stuphi.co.uk/uupc_s01e01.txt

Having never done this before, I have discovered a few things. I have
no idea who is talking most of the time. I think I can recognize
Alan's voice, thanks to watching some of his screen casts.

People say 'um' lots! I think it is worth dropping all these 'ums' and
even the occasional comment if it does not add anything to the text.
For example, during the introductions, each presenter says 'hello'
after their name. I did not think that was worth having in the
transcript.

Audacity is quite useful. I would set the selection for a ten second
repeat, and play it over and over until I had it all down. Then I
would move on to the next ten seconds.

This is a slow process!

The wiki page has a table on it. Please update it if you have started
doing anything to save anybody else starting the same segment.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/IdeasPool/UK_Podcast_Transcription

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Dave Walker
Steve Cook wrote:

> One thing I had last time I did this was a media player with 
> fast forward/rewind buttons, rather than a slider.  Anybody know which 
> one that is?

One application that might be suitable, "Transcriber" - It's in the
universe repository:

$ sudo apt-get install transcriber
(or use synaptic/adept)

It's designed to allow pause/resume (tab key), and marking what each
speaker is saying.  An application worth considering.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Steve Cook
Alan Pope wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 20:41 +0100, Steve Cook wrote:
>> Just having a go at transcribing the interview with Becky Hogge of the 
>> Open Rights Group from the first pod cast to see how quickly I can get 
>> it done.  One thing I had last time I did this was a media player with 
>> fast forward/rewind buttons, rather than a slider.  Anybody know which 
>> one that is?
>>
> 
> Audacity? Which also has a slider to playback slowly, so you can play at
> 0.8x speed which may be easier.
> 
> Cheers,
> Al.
> 
Thanks.  I'll get it installed now.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 20:41 +0100, Steve Cook wrote:
> Just having a go at transcribing the interview with Becky Hogge of the 
> Open Rights Group from the first pod cast to see how quickly I can get 
> it done.  One thing I had last time I did this was a media player with 
> fast forward/rewind buttons, rather than a slider.  Anybody know which 
> one that is?
> 

Audacity? Which also has a slider to playback slowly, so you can play at
0.8x speed which may be easier.

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Mac
Stephen O'Neill wrote:
> Have you any idea how many words there are in the podcast? I will try
> transcribing a bit at the weekend and see how long it takes and then
> give you an answer!


IIRC, people talk at a rate in the order of 300-350 words a minute.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Philip Stubbs
2008/6/25 Stephen O'Neill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Good idea ... plus we need a style guide - including things like talking
> over, indicating pauses, saying who's speaking, stage directions etc.
>
> I presume that plain text would be simplest to author, although XHTML or
> XML will obviously be easier to reformat for different media.

Do you want to write one? As Alan said, plain text will be a good
starter. Maybe once one episode has been transcribed, we can then
think about how it will be used. Personally, I think it would be good
to be able to format a version of it in LaTeX for a printable version
in addition to the web.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Philip Stubbs wrote:
| Is there a wiki for this? Seems to me that a page where we can put our
| names against a show will be useful. I am a bit reluctant to pick an
| episode thinking that someone else may already be half way through it.
| Even worse, would be just about to finish, and then someone else gets
| there first.


Good idea ... plus we need a style guide - including things like talking
over, indicating pauses, saying who's speaking, stage directions etc.

I presume that plain text would be simplest to author, although XHTML or
XML will obviously be easier to reformat for different media.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Steve Cook
Stephen Drake wrote:

> 
> It definitely helps if you're familiar with the subject under discussion
> and you'll very quickly be annoyed when you realise most people don't
> talk in proper sentences.
> 
...um, err, ye, what, why err...  :-)

Just having a go at transcribing the interview with Becky Hogge of the 
Open Rights Group from the first pod cast to see how quickly I can get 
it done.  One thing I had last time I did this was a media player with 
fast forward/rewind buttons, rather than a slider.  Anybody know which 
one that is?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Johnathon Tinsley
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Philip Stubbs wrote:
| 2008/6/25 James Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
|> Good idea - same view as you. Perhaps we could have a page where we could
|> say what episode we're doing, and maybe the timing (e.g from start to
5 mins
|> in...). Also be useful for posting the transcripts so others can edit
them
|> as well if there are any mistakes (which there won't, of course ;-)
|
| Does Ubuntu-UK have a wiki that we could add a page to? I could set
| one up on my home server if there is nothing else, but It would make
| more sense to be in the same place as the podcasts.
|

Yes, the Ubuntu-UK team has space on the main Ubuntu Wiki.
I've added a page for this particular idea here, but feel free to add
more pages.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/IdeasPool/UK_Podcast_Transcription

HTH

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Philip Stubbs
2008/6/25 James Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Good idea - same view as you. Perhaps we could have a page where we could
> say what episode we're doing, and maybe the timing (e.g from start to 5 mins
> in...). Also be useful for posting the transcripts so others can edit them
> as well if there are any mistakes (which there won't, of course ;-)

Does Ubuntu-UK have a wiki that we could add a page to? I could set
one up on my home server if there is nothing else, but It would make
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread James Milligan
Good idea - same view as you. Perhaps we could have a page where we could
say what episode we're doing, and maybe the timing (e.g from start to 5 mins
in...). Also be useful for posting the transcripts so others can edit them
as well if there are any mistakes (which there won't, of course ;-)


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Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008/6/25 Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 13:31 +0100, Stephen O'Neill wrote:
>>  I will try
>> transcribing a bit at the weekend and see how long it takes and then 
>> give you an answer!
>>
>
> Excellent stuff. If you start with episode 1 then any work you do wont 
> be in vain! (on the assumption nobody else has already started) :)

Is there a wiki for this? Seems to me that a page where we can put our names
against a show will be useful. I am a bit reluctant to pick an episode
thinking that someone else may already be half way through it.
Even worse, would be just about to finish, and then someone else gets there
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Philip Stubbs
2008/6/25 Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 13:31 +0100, Stephen O'Neill wrote:
>>  I will try
>> transcribing a bit at the weekend and see how long it takes and then
>> give you an answer!
>>
>
> Excellent stuff. If you start with episode 1 then any work you do wont
> be in vain! (on the assumption nobody else has already started) :)

Is there a wiki for this? Seems to me that a page where we can put our
names against a show will be useful. I am a bit reluctant to pick an
episode thinking that someone else may already be half way through it.
Even worse, would be just about to finish, and then someone else gets
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread LeeGroups

> I use VirtualBox to do exactly that in Ubuntu, as far as I know it is 
> also available for Windows. One thing to note is the NON open source edition
> is the one that allows you to share usb devices between the host and guest.
>
>   
I'm sure I saw a blog post recently describing how to fix that on Ubuntu...

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread James Milligan
I know it's not 100% accurate, but I thought perhaps for the monologues etc
it could help a bit. If anything was wrong I'd obviously correct it etc.


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On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:07 PM, James Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure I'll help if you want. I primarily use a Windows PC (booo) but 
> only because I need it for Microsoft Word etc and Gaming. You could 
> always try speech-to-text (recognition) maybe - quicker than transcribing
it.
>
> Sign me up anyway!
>
> --
>
> Just a note on the me using a Windows PC bit, I have all the disks for 
> Ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04, but my dad won't let me install dual-boot at the 
> moment because 'he doesn't trust Linux being reliable, and it doesn't 
> have the same compatibility as Windows (like printers etc)' - I'm 
> trying to swing him round, but he's a bit reluctant to say the least. 
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> 
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> -Original Message-
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> Sent: 25 June 2008 13:24
> To: British Ubuntu Talk
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers
>
> 2008/6/25 Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Would any of you be willing to put a bit of time into transcribing 
>> the Ubuntu UK Podcast into plain text format?
>>
>> It doesn't need to be one person doing every episode, but each person 
>> could pick one ep, and do that, and then do another when they have time.
>>
>> Any volunteers, questions?
>
> I could probably do one. Spelling is not one of my strengths, but with 
> aspell installed, it should be cool.
>
> Is there any particular format or layout required? You say plain text, 
> but even then a common layout could be useful in case it is to used 
> for other formats in the future.
>
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It's incredibly doubtful that text to speech would work, and be a successful
method of transcribing, primarily because it isn't the best to begin with.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Stephen Drake
Hi,
I transcribed most of the Ubuntu Screencasts subtitles and as a guide it
took me around 4-5 hours for a 30 min video. Granted, I'm not a fast
typist and each line had to be sync'ed with the video/audio properly
afterwards, so I'm sure this project will be much quicker.

It definitely helps if you're familiar with the subject under discussion
and you'll very quickly be annoyed when you realise most people don't
talk in proper sentences.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Jason Liquorish
Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote:
> Quoting James Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>   
>> Just a note on the me using a Windows PC bit, I have all the disks for
>> Ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04, but my dad won't let me install dual-boot at the
>> moment because 'he doesn't trust Linux being reliable, and it doesn't have
>> the same compatibility as Windows (like printers etc)' - I'm trying to swing
>> him round, but he's a bit reluctant to say the least. If anyone can find
>> drivers for a Canon MP780 Series Printer then that'd be really helpful!
>> 
>
> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_MP780
>
> One way to do it would be to run some sort of VM under windows (not  
> too sure how/where you'd get it from) and link the USB ports of the  
> windows machine to the windows VM.
>
> Others can help you here... :o)
>
> M.
>   
I use VirtualBox to do exactly that in Ubuntu, as far as I know it is 
also available for Windows. One thing to note is the NON open source edition
is the one that allows you to share usb devices between the host and guest.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Kris Douglas
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 5:07 PM, James Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure I'll help if you want. I primarily use a Windows PC (booo) but only
> because I need it for Microsoft Word etc and Gaming. You could always try
> speech-to-text (recognition) maybe - quicker than transcribing it.
>
> Sign me up anyway!
>
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> Just a note on the me using a Windows PC bit, I have all the disks for
> Ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04, but my dad won't let me install dual-boot at the
> moment because 'he doesn't trust Linux being reliable, and it doesn't have
> the same compatibility as Windows (like printers etc)' - I'm trying to swing
> him round, but he's a bit reluctant to say the least. If anyone can find
> drivers for a Canon MP780 Series Printer then that'd be really helpful!
> 
>
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> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers
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> 2008/6/25 Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Would any of you be willing to put a bit of time into transcribing the
>> Ubuntu UK Podcast into plain text format?
>>
>> It doesn't need to be one person doing every episode, but each person
>> could pick one ep, and do that, and then do another when they have time.
>>
>> Any volunteers, questions?
>
> I could probably do one. Spelling is not one of my strengths, but with
> aspell installed, it should be cool.
>
> Is there any particular format or layout required? You say plain text, but
> even then a common layout could be useful in case it is to used for other
> formats in the future.
>
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It's incredibly doubtful that text to speech would work, and be a
successful method of transcribing, primarily because it isn't the best
to begin with.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Quoting James Milligan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Just a note on the me using a Windows PC bit, I have all the disks for
> Ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04, but my dad won't let me install dual-boot at the
> moment because 'he doesn't trust Linux being reliable, and it doesn't have
> the same compatibility as Windows (like printers etc)' - I'm trying to swing
> him round, but he's a bit reluctant to say the least. If anyone can find
> drivers for a Canon MP780 Series Printer then that'd be really helpful!

http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Canon-PIXMA_MP780

One way to do it would be to run some sort of VM under windows (not  
too sure how/where you'd get it from) and link the USB ports of the  
windows machine to the windows VM.

Others can help you here... :o)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread James Milligan
Sure I'll help if you want. I primarily use a Windows PC (booo) but only
because I need it for Microsoft Word etc and Gaming. You could always try
speech-to-text (recognition) maybe - quicker than transcribing it.

Sign me up anyway!

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Just a note on the me using a Windows PC bit, I have all the disks for
Ubuntu 7.10 and 8.04, but my dad won't let me install dual-boot at the
moment because 'he doesn't trust Linux being reliable, and it doesn't have
the same compatibility as Windows (like printers etc)' - I'm trying to swing
him round, but he's a bit reluctant to say the least. If anyone can find
drivers for a Canon MP780 Series Printer then that'd be really helpful!


James Milligan
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2008/6/25 Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> Would any of you be willing to put a bit of time into transcribing the 
> Ubuntu UK Podcast into plain text format?
>
> It doesn't need to be one person doing every episode, but each person 
> could pick one ep, and do that, and then do another when they have time.
>
> Any volunteers, questions?

I could probably do one. Spelling is not one of my strengths, but with
aspell installed, it should be cool.

Is there any particular format or layout required? You say plain text, but
even then a common layout could be useful in case it is to used for other
formats in the future.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Steve Cook
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>> Would it be worth splitting each podcast into 10 minute chunks? 
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> 
> I did wonder about this too - I would definitely be able to pitch in if
> it was one or two 10 minute chunks to transcribe each week.
> 
If we could do it in 10 min chunks I would be happy to help.  I've done 
this before and 40 mins worth of several people waffling :-) takes some 
doing.

Steve

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Lucy wrote:
> Would it be worth splitting each podcast into 10 minute chunks? 


I did wonder about this too - I would definitely be able to pitch in if
it was one or two 10 minute chunks to transcribe each week.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Lucy
On 25/06/2008, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 13:31 +0100, Stephen O'Neill wrote:
>  > This is the sort of thing I could do, but couldn't guarantee due to time
>  > etc.
>
> Sure, that affects us all, so it would be great if we could have a
>  "team" of people who did it, and organised it amongst themselves. From
>  our point of view we'd love to just hand over the ogg/mp3 and let the
>  transcribers team get on with it.

Would it be worth splitting each podcast into 10 minute chunks? That
way people can get involved when they've just go a small amount of
spare time, every now and then, without having to commit to an entire
episode.

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Alan Pope wrote:
>>  I will try
>> transcribing a bit at the weekend and see how long it takes and then
>> give you an answer!
>>
> 
> Excellent stuff. If you start with episode 1 then any work you do wont
> be in vain! (on the assumption nobody else has already started) :)


Ok, I'm not 'bagsying' an episode but I will work out whether it's
feasible for me to join the team and let you know :D
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Bruce Beardall
Hi All

I haven't responded to any of these before but I'd be happy to get involved
with the transcribing. Not being a coder I'd still love to do my bit for the
community and this sounds like a great way to go about it.

Cheers

Bruce


On 6/25/08, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Would any of you be willing to put a bit of time into transcribing the
> Ubuntu UK Podcast into plain text format?
>
> It doesn't need to be one person doing every episode, but each person
> could pick one ep, and do that, and then do another when they have time.
>
> Any volunteers, questions?
>
> Cheers,
> Al.
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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Philip Newborough
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 13:24 +0100, Philip Stubbs wrote:
> Do you have a better suggestion? Anyone seen what other podcasts do? I
> know there are pay-for services ranging from 30-40 cents USD per minute,
> but we thought this might be a way to get people involved with the bonus
> of not having to spend any money.
>

Keep the podcast length to under 5 minutes, it'll be dirt cheap to get
transcribed :)

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 13:31 +0100, Stephen O'Neill wrote:
> This is the sort of thing I could do, but couldn't guarantee due to time
> etc.
> 

Sure, that affects us all, so it would be great if we could have a
"team" of people who did it, and organised it amongst themselves. From
our point of view we'd love to just hand over the ogg/mp3 and let the
transcribers team get on with it.

> Have you any idea how many words there are in the podcast?

Not a clue :) However it _is_ a relatively fixed duration of 40 mins if
that helps. Sometimes we do speak a bit too quickly, and we do get
people on for whom English is not their first language. I guess if there
are any words that it's not easy to understand you can always ask us for
confirmation or leave a known block of text like **UNKNOWN** in so we
can search and replace with the right word.

>  I will try
> transcribing a bit at the weekend and see how long it takes and then
> give you an answer!
> 

Excellent stuff. If you start with episode 1 then any work you do wont
be in vain! (on the assumption nobody else has already started) :)

> The thing I would find hardest is working out the names of the speakers.
> 

We put our names in the website, but it wouldn't hurt for us to each
give a 30 second "showreel" which has one person talking at once so you
can get used to what we sound like?

> Out of interest, what's your specific purpose? - accessibility, text
> searching?

Both :)

Accessibility and google juice. 

I don't know how many other Linux-related podcasts that there are, but I
would bet not many have transcriptions, and I'm certain no other Ubuntu
ones do :) So it would be a nice selling point for us too, to be the
only ones catering to people with hearing difficulties.

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, 2008-06-25 at 13:24 +0100, Philip Stubbs wrote:
> Is there any particular format or layout required? 

I didn't give it that much thought. I figured that the most time
consuming thing was to actually do the transcription itself, so as long
as it's in a human readable format (unicode text) then we can "post
process" it to add in links etc later?

Do you have a better suggestion? Anyone seen what other podcasts do? I
know there are pay-for services ranging from 30-40 cents USD per minute,
but we thought this might be a way to get people involved with the bonus
of not having to spend any money.

Cheers,
Al.


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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Stephen O'Neill
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Alan Pope wrote:
> Would any of you be willing to put a bit of time into transcribing the
> Ubuntu UK Podcast into plain text format?


This is the sort of thing I could do, but couldn't guarantee due to time
etc.

Have you any idea how many words there are in the podcast? I will try
transcribing a bit at the weekend and see how long it takes and then
give you an answer!

The thing I would find hardest is working out the names of the speakers.

Out of interest, what's your specific purpose? - accessibility, text
searching?

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Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wanted: Podcast transcribers

2008-06-25 Thread Philip Stubbs
2008/6/25 Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi,
>
> Would any of you be willing to put a bit of time into transcribing the
> Ubuntu UK Podcast into plain text format?
>
> It doesn't need to be one person doing every episode, but each person
> could pick one ep, and do that, and then do another when they have time.
>
> Any volunteers, questions?

I could probably do one. Spelling is not one of my strengths, but with
aspell installed, it should be cool.

Is there any particular format or layout required? You say plain text,
but even then a common layout could be useful in case it is to used
for other formats in the future.

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