Re: ugnet_: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics?
Anyamokolo, Please , what has this got to do with "Baganda"? Kisubi is a school where all nationals attend, At least the last time i checked that was the picture.(Could M7 have "fundamentally" changed even this?) For your own edification "fargots" are found everywhere, they come in all colours, sexand sizes. I was in Gulu recently and lady, the stories i heard there were saddening. It seems the people in the IDP camps mount anything that walks-(irrespective of sex. Now the people in those IDP camps are mainly from one race- very far away from the "Baganda fagots"in Kampala! Could this be the "civilizing effects of the NRA/M? Think about this next time before you decide to target one particular species of the human race. Rgds Gook "You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."- Malcom X Original Message Follows From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics? Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:29:14 -0500 (EST) All it takes is one boy, now a grown man, from Kisubi college to come out and admit that he was molested by catholic priests and the rest will follow. Right now we are so culturally supressed and it is the reason catholic faggots, some retarded stupid believers call them 'flipping' priest, molest little boys because they know the culture forbids them from discussing it openly. No wonder there are too many baganda faggots in Kampala. Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics? ~ Over a decade ago, at the start of AIDS in Uganda Kenya and Zambia, an Irish nun, The Rev. Sister Mary McDonald - a Medical Doctor, wrote a report based in the context of AIDS, about Catholic Bishops in an un-disclosed AIDS infested African country, who had gone way overboard with fornication, sex with underage girls, impregnating nuns, illegal abortions etc (One Bishop is reported to have impregnated 24 nuns, with one nun dying on him during a back alley abortion, according to the same Sister Mary McDonald MD). This report, if you remember, was suppressed by the cabal that really runs the Catholic church in Rome i.e. 'Opus Dei', and Sister McDonald was banished back to Ireland and gagged. Is that suprising if one considers the likes of the Belgian head of the catholic church who was asking the court there to allow him to stand in dock for all the pedophile clergy there, arguing that going after them individually would take the court more than fifty years? The catholic church is schizophrenic about sex. Here in Canada a whole monastry, Mount St Cashell, had to be demolished by the Canadian govt after it had been found to have been used by priests to sodomize kids. This sodomy had lasted more than 50 years; and the church has not yet fully compensated the victims!! Infamous Mount St Cashell had become such a place of pain, shame and evil that it really had to be erased from the face of the earth. Don't get me wrong. St. Marys College Kisubi is a very decent place where nobody has ever been known to suffer practices like those of Canada's Mount St Cashell. But still, the schizophrenia about sex exists there too. I hope fellow Kisubi OB's and fellow Catholics will not roast me alive when I refer to these dark 'secrets' !! ~ Weddings at Ntare; starvation in Kisubi School Times By Simon Kasyate Jan 12 - 18, 2004 OK guys let us begin like this; for my O-level, I was in a liberal school where limits were but in your head (wherever your conscience instructed you to stop was where the school fence ended) and preps were optional. But it was a rude cultural shock when at A- level; I was faced with the realities of being in a single sex, catholic school. It was my dream school because of the academic prestige. Passing through this school was a passport to celebrity. But blind I was after noticing the social deficit this college suffered. I mean, moving out of school at SMACK as St. Marys College Kisubi is known, be it for a small drink, dance, dinner and whatever was so feared that the mere thought of it would plunge you into panic before one of the Brothers reads your mind. The situation here was near the opposite of what I had left at Ntare School. Mbarara town was more like part of Ntare school because, on a daily basis, whether du ring exams or not, there was always a beeline of students headed to and fro town. Chances of meeting a teaching or non-teaching staff was 100% but what the heck-never heard of anyone expelled for being in town in broad day light. For many of us, flocking club Vision Empire was part of the prep menu every Friday. Saturday mornings found us nursing hangover in town with that badly needed plate of Katogo. Being a staunch catholic in love with Victorian hymns, Martyrs cathedral was the place to
Re: ugnet_: Why young women date married men
Nyomnyonawee, Firstly, good continuation! Now, mates,is the Headline "Why young women date married men" reflecting a Ugandan situation or what?! Don't you dare insult the common sugar-honey situation of many Africans in Europe and around the world on the reverse order.Some W. Africans would see stars at mid-day as they spike-haired, battle to restore their blood pressure from Hell. They would say: "Heeey mn, mi luv mi wuu maaan! Mi don dig no Uganda bullshit waiting for resident permit laikaa ain't no woo around, man. Mi got my paper maaan and my dotter be beautiful, maaan!..Yuganan they wait for permit for years living in hell each time a police pass by. Mi I got my job maan! Iput mi luv where mi mouth tis!" Here in Sweden, the pivot appears balanced: just as many young boys with sugar mams as there are young girls with Sugar Dads. And then there are theLUCKY BORN LOVERSlike us who always get the most BestS" JOYFICATE From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Why young women date married men Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:26:36 -0500 (EST) Jonah, you are responsible for your own carelessness. Stop wondering how AIDS spread so fast and wrap a condom around it. Are you HIV positive? How did you get it? Anyomokolo jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: and some people still wonder how AIDS spread so fast From: Anyomokolo Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: Why young women date married men Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:02:34 -0500 (EST) I would chose to date a married man over single/unmarried guy becuase a single man would always want to control, dominate and own me. A married man is already controlling his wife. I don't want any man to control my life and freedom. Unlike these Makerere students, I have my own money and will never trade my freedom with $$$. I can have a married man and another, a regular one, on the side if I choose to. If the regular one begin to control my freedom, I will chuck him immediately. The married one will always be around while I look for another regular. So, to conclude, for me, a married man is a complete package. I can get what I want and maintain my freedom. I don't know about other women but my freedom is very important. My freedom is very important. Very important. Actually it is the reason I can't get married. Anyomokolo Owor Kipenji wrote: Why young women date married men By Muhwezi G. Bonge Jan 2 - 8, 2004 Most people including my self must be wondering why that cute lady that any man would love to have as his own is comfortably engrossed in the arms of a married man. Why she risks being found out by the wife of the man she is dating? It's much more than you think so let's take time to reflect on what that married man has that a bachelor doesn't. Faridah Nabagereka acting as Ashiraf Ssemwogerere's girlfriend in Gawandagala, Bat Valley theatre (Photo by Willy Tamale).Some ladies confess that usually married men can't admit that they are married but she later finds out when she has already given too much to leave him. There is a lot that ladies find in married men than you can imagine. Most ladies confess that they date married because married men give them security. Does this mean that youthful guys can't provide that security? The argument here is that although she knows he is married, she can count on him to be responsible and maintain her and his wife. When a woman is dating a married man, she does not have to worry about cheating after all the whole relationship is based on cheating. So she does it for fun. Usually a married man is mature and cares for her feelings more than the youthful men. For example when a married man takes her out he does those 'small' things that really count like opening the door for her to sit, pulling the chair for her and even calling her after the date to know if she is feeling fine. More to that, women confess that married men are sincere and gentle. So guys take heed, if you think by not giving your all or by not showing your weaknesses, you are being a man. Wake up, you are missing the point. Married men usually have that financial superiority which sometimes, youthful men don't have and even if he is doing well financially, he can't take care of all her needs. Cynthia a second year student at Makerere university admits that she is currently dating a married man so that he takes care of her needs like food, airtime, service fee, mention it, but still maintains her boyfriend who completed last year and is working right now. Why is it that she doesn't ask such things from her boyfriend? She argues that she feels that she is exploiting someone she loves and more to that, her boy friend has to work for their future. Then why exploit the
ugnet_: Twelve killed in attack by singing Burundi gunmen
Twelve killed in attack by singing Burundi gunmen BUJUMBURA, Jan 12 (Reuters) - Twelve Burundians were killed when a large group of gunmen singing "Alleluia" launched a night time raid on a village outside the capital, a government official said on Monday. In a separate attack, seven people were killed and several others wounded or kidnapped on Monday when bandits attacked a bus travelling to the capital from the western province of Cibitoke, local government officials said. The latest killings underscored the persistence of violence in Burundi during a visit by President Domitien Ndayizeye to Europe in search of donor funds to reward progress in ending more than a decade of civil war. Fighting between rebels from the Hutu majority and the army controlled by the minority Tutsis since 1993 has killed an estimated 300,000 people. The rebels have been fighting to end the dominance of Tutsis in the government and armed forces. A local official accused the Forces for National Liberation (FNL) rebel group of staging the attack on the village, which occurred on Sunday at Gihanga commune, 12 km (seven miles) northwest of the capital Bujumbura. "There were many of them and they were making a loud noise singing 'Alleluia'," the administrator of Gihanga commune, Jean Bosco Hatungimana, told Reuters. Four soldiers and a rebel were killed when army troops later intervened, Hatungimana said. The spokesman for the FNL, Pasteur Habimana, declined to comment on the accusations. The FNL, whose rebels are well-known for singing hymns as they go into battle, is the only one of various rebel groups that has not signed a peace deal with the government, although it said this month that it will hold talks with Ndayizeye. Ndayizeye left Bujumbura on Saturday to visit Belgium, France and the Netherlands to seek development aid for Burundi, where war has prevented much of the population of 6.5 million from escaping deep levels of poverty. He is expected to point to a peace deal with the largest rebel group, the Forces for the Defence of Democracy (FDD) and the possibility of dialogue with the FNL as major steps towards ending the country's conflict. 01/12/04 07:29 ET
ugnet_: Attacks prompt U.N. to boost patrols in east Congo
Attacks prompt U.N. to boost patrols in east Congo By Finbarr O'Reilly KIGALI, Rwanda (Reuters) - The United Nations is stepping up peacekeeping patrols in the lawless jungles of eastern Congo following a series of deadly militia attacks on remote villages, a U.N. spokesman said Monday. A wave of attacks has displaced some 20,000 people since late December in the volatile South Kivu province bordering Rwanda, say aid agencies and MONUC, the U.N. mission in the Democratic Republic of Congo. "We've sent in about 80 South African troops to patrol on foot to get these attacks to stop," said Sebastien Lapierre, a MONUC spokesman in the eastern Congolese town of Bukavu. The attacks took place near the towns of Bunyakiri and Hombo, about 60 miles northwest of Bukavu. U.N. officials said witnesses had spoken of 10 deaths, but that figure had not been verified. Lapierre blamed the attacks on the Democratic Liberation Forces of Rwanda, an extremist Rwandan Hutu group that includes thousands of "Interahamwe" gunmen accused of committing the 1994 Rwandan genocide. The presence of the "genocidaires" in eastern Democratic Republic of Congo sparked a five-year war that destabilized central Africa and killed at least 3 million people, most from hunger and disease. The conflict officially ended last July when the main belligerents forged a transitional government and a unified national army, but much of the vast country remains anarchic and overrun by ragtag militias and armed bandits. The United Nations has struggled to stabilize eastern Congo, a wild region with few roads, rugged mountains and dense jungles where ethnic tensions run high and competition for resources fuels fighting among rivals. "We've started patrolling more aggressively," said Lapierre, adding 20 ton of food aid were to be delivered Monday to some of the eight villages attacked in recent weeks. Congo's war erupted in 1998 when Rwanda invaded to hunt down those responsible for the 1994 genocide, when some 800,000 people were killed in 100 days. It mushroomed when half a dozen African countries sent armies into the former Zaire in a scramble for natural riches such as gold, diamonds and timber. 01/12/04 08:52 ET
ugnet_: Germany regrets Namibia 'genocide'
Germany regrets Namibia 'genocide' Germany's military commander vowed to wipe out the Herero Germany has expressed its "regret" for the killing of thousands of Namibia's ethnic Hereros during the colonial era. Between 35,000 and 105,000 people were killed after the Hereros rebelled against German rule in 1904. But Germany's ambassador to Namibia ruled out paying compensation, as the Hereros have demanded in a law suit. Correspondents say Wolfgang Massing's statement, at a ceremony to commemorate the massacres is the closest Germany has come to an apology. History could not be undone, he said but "we can give back to the victims and their descendants the dignity and honour of which they were robbed". Any Herero found within the German borders with or without a gun, with or without cattle, will be shot General von Trotha German military commander "I also wish to express how deeply we regret this unfortunate past," he said at a commemoration of the 12 January, 1904 uprising in Okahandja, the Hereros' former capital 70 kilometres north of the capital, Windhoek. He said it would be unfair to Namibia's other groups to only compensate the Hereros. Wells poisoned But Herero Paramount Chief Kuaima Riruako insisted that compensation must be paid. "The wounds of the past must be healed. Our reparation claim must only be seen as an effort to regain our dignity and help us restore what was wrongfully taken away from us," he said. "I once again invite the German government to accept the genocide of my people and engage in a dialogue with the Herero to iron out issues of mutual interest". After the Hereros rebelled, the German military commander, General von Trotha, ordered the Hereros to leave Namibia or be killed. "I, the great general of the German troops, send this letter to the Herero people... All Hereros must leave this land... Any Herero found within the German borders with or without a gun, with or without cattle, will be shot. I shall no longer receive any women or children; I will drive them back to their people. I will shoot them. This is my decision for the Herero people." Hereros were massacred with machine guns, their wells poisoned and then driven into the desert to die.
ugnet_: Re: [Ugandacom] Germany regrets Namibia 'genocide'
Source: BBC NEWS 01/12/04
Re: ugnet_: Germany regrets Namibia 'genocide'
I would like to applaud the actions being taken by the Herero people in trying to get redress for the wrongs the brutal colonial masters visited upon their peaceful people. What worries me most is that the other so called benovalent serpent under the guise of good colonizers are always being left off the hook to redress the wrongs and acrimony that to date continues to simmer in their former colonies.Is it because these serpents turned around and duped their former colonies with the concept of a "commonwealth" that is why no body is demanding reparations from them? Both the Brits and the Germans were equally brutal and whilst the latter were openly brutal,the former used subtle ways to brutalise their subjects and hence on the surface they appear more benovalent when actually they are the most intrepid,insidous and vicious.When will all the colonized Africans wake up and put these buccaneers on trial?.This is surely going to be one step to equalization and then the Musevenis of this world can start talking about building a middle class and also the massive brain drain from Africa will cease. Just wondering aloud. Thank you. Kipenji. =[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Germany regrets Namibia 'genocide' Germany's military commander vowed to wipe out the HereroGermany has expressed its "regret" for the killing of thousands of Namibia's ethnic Hereros during the colonial era. Between 35,000 and 105,000 people were killed after the Hereros rebelled against German rule in 1904. But Germany's ambassador to Namibia ruled out paying compensation, as the Hereros have demanded in a law suit. Correspondents say Wolfgang Massing's statement, at a ceremony to commemorate the massacres is the closest Germany has come to an apology. History could not be undone, he said but "we can give back to the victims and their descendants the dignity and honour of which they were robbed". Any Herero found within the German borders with or without a gun, with or without cattle, will be shot General von TrothaGerman military commander "I also wish to express how deeply we regret this unfortunate past," he said at a commemoration of the 12 January, 1904 uprising in Okahandja, the Hereros' former capital 70 kilometres north of the capital, Windhoek. He said it would be unfair to Namibia's other groups to only compensate the Hereros. Wells poisoned But Herero Paramount Chief Kuaima Riruako insisted that compensation must be paid. "The wounds of the past must be healed. Our reparation claim must only be seen as an effort to regain our dignity and help us restore what was wrongfully taken away from us," he said. "I once again invite the German government to accept the genocide of my people and engage in a dialogue with the Herero to iron out issues of mutual interest". After the Hereros rebelled, the German military commander, General von Trotha, ordered the Hereros to leave Namibia or be killed. "I, the great general of the German troops, send this letter to the Herero people... All Hereros must leave this land... Any Herero found within the German borders with or without a gun, with or without cattle, will be shot. I shall no longer receive any women or children; I will drive them back to their people. I will shoot them. This is my decision for the Herero people." Hereros were massacred with machine guns, their wells poisoned and then driven into the desert to die. Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now
Re: ugnet_: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics?
Gook Makanga wrote: I was in Gulu recently and lady, the stories i heard there were saddening. It seems the people in the IDP camps mount anything that walks-(irrespective of sex. Now the people in those IDP camps are mainly from one race- very far away from the "Baganda fagots"in Kampala! Could this be the "civilizing effects of the NRA/M? So what? Did I disagree with you? Do I care? If this is what NRA/M has reduced them to, let them mount anything they choose.It is their prerogative. I guess while the NRA/M are busy civilizing IDP camps, the priest were also busy civilizing Baganda boys in Kisubi. If the priest did not do it then it has got to be in the baganda genes. Otherwise, I wait for someone to tell me why there are so many Baganda faggots in Kampala streets. We know that in IDP camps the NRA/M destroyed their culture. What about Baganda? Genetics? This would be a good subject to write a book about homosexuality among Bagandansand why it is spreading fast among Baganda men, especially in Kampala. Now I hear that they have moved to the land of the free in the USA, Boston. Anyomokolo gook makanga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyamokolo, Please , what has this got to do with "Baganda"? Kisubi is a school where all nationals attend, At least the last time i checked that was the picture.(Could M7 have "fundamentally" changed even this?) For your own edification "fargots" are found everywhere, they come in all colours, sexand sizes. I was in Gulu recently and lady, the stories i heard there were saddening. It seems the people in the IDP camps mount anything that walks-(irrespective of sex. Now the people in those IDP camps are mainly from one race- very far away from the "Baganda fagots"in Kampala! Could this be the "civilizing effects of the NRA/M? Think about this next time before you decide to target one particular species of the human race. Rgds Gook "You can't separate peace from freedom because no one can be at peace unless he has his freedom."- Malcom X Original Message Follows From: Anyomokolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ugnet_: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics? Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 18:29:14 -0500 (EST) All it takes is one boy, now a grown man, from Kisubi college to come out and admit that he was molested by catholic priests and the rest will follow. Right now we are so culturally supressed and it is the reason catholic faggots, some retarded stupid believers call them 'flipping' priest, molest little boys because they know the culture forbids them from discussing it openly. No wonder there are too many baganda faggots in Kampala. Mitayo Potosi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: How widespread is hypocricy among us Catholics? ~ Over a decade ago, at the start of AIDS in Uganda Kenya and Zambia, an Irish nun, The Rev. Sister Mary McDonald - a Medical Doctor, wrote a report based in the context of AIDS, about Catholic Bishops in an un-disclosed AIDS infested African country, who had gone way overboard with fornication, sex with underage girls, impregnating nuns, illegal abortions etc (One Bishop is reported to have impregnated 24 nuns, with one nun dying on him during a back alley abortion, according to the same Sister Mary McDonald MD). This report, if you remember, was suppressed by the cabal that really runs the Catholic church in Rome i.e. 'Opus Dei', and Sister McDonald was banished back to Ireland and gagged. Is that suprising if one considers the likes of the Belgian head of the catholic church who was asking the court there to allow him to stand in dock for all the pedophile clergy there, arguing that going after them individually would take the court more than fifty years? The catholic church is schizophrenic about sex. Here in Canada a whole monastry, Mount St Cashell, had to be demolished by the Canadian govt after it had been found to have been used by priests to sodomize kids. This sodomy had lasted more than 50 years; and the church has not yet fully compensated the victims!! Infamous Mount St Cashell had become such a place of pain, shame and evil that it really had to be erased from the face of the earth. Don't get me wrong. St. Marys College Kisubi is a very decent place where nobody has ever been known to suffer practices like those of Canada's Mount St Cashell. But still, the schizophrenia about sex exists there too. I hope fellow Kisubi OB's and fellow Catholics will not roast me alive when I refer to these dark 'secrets' !! ~ Weddings at Ntare; starvation in Kisubi School Times By Simon Kasyate Jan 12 - 18, 2004 OK guys let us begin like this; for my O-le vel, I was in a liberal school where limits were but in your head (wherever your conscience instructed you to stop was where the school fence ended) and preps were optional. But it was a rude cultural shock when at A- level; I was faced with
ugnet_: Fwd: PROSPECT
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ugnet_: Journalist Receives Death Threats From Political Leaders in Eastern DRC
Journalist Receives Death Threats From Political Leaders in Eastern DRC Email This Page Print This Page Visit The Publisher's Site Reporters sans Frontières (Paris) PRESS RELEASE January 9, 2004 Posted to the web January 11, 2004 Nicaise Kibel'Bel Oka, publication director of the weekly "Les Coulisses", has received several death threats recently. The threats are being taken very seriously, as they follow the publication of an article in which he accused leaders of the Rally for Democracy-Liberation Movement (Rassemblement pour la démocratie-Mouvement de libération, RCD-ML) of creating insecurity in the country's northeastern region in order to cement their power. RSF called on the government to intercede with local political leaders and urge them to protect the journalist. "We are very worried about Kibel'Bel Oka's situation. These death threats must be taken very seriously, as security forces act with utter impunity in this part of the country. The government must intervene in this matter without delay in order to quieten down the situation," said RSF Secretary-General Robert Ménard. "Several of the senior civilian and military officials who are threatening the journalist are members of the RCD-ML, one of the government forces' main parties," noted RSF. "What's more, RCD-ML President Mbusa Nyamwisi is also minister of regional cooperation. We ask him, along with the interior and information ministers, to do everything in their power to protect Kibel'Bel Oka, ensure that the threats against him stop, and allow him to continue his journalistic work without obstruction. We will hold them responsible should anything happen to him," RSF added. Kibel'Bel Oka published an investigative report in issue 134 of the weekly "Les Coulisses" concerning violent clashes that took place in the Beni region (northeastern Democratic Republic of Congo) in December 2003. Official statements made at the time said that government troops had been attacked by Ugandan rebels, causing two deaths and serious injuries to two others. The investigative piece published by "Les Coulisses", however, claimed that the so-called rebels were in fact being used by the RCD-ML to manufacture a climate of terror that would allow local leaders to maintain a strong military presence in the region. RSF further noted that a journalist has been missing in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) since 26 June. Acquitté Kisembo, a Bunia-based Agence France-Presse (AFP) contributor, in the northeastern corner of the DRC, was abducted by a group of militiamen while he was interviewing civilians (see IFEX alert of 9 July 2003). The militiamen reportedly threatened him because of his work with foreign media, particularly AFP. Kisembo has not been heard from since. Some sources believe that he may have been abducted and killed by men operating under Thomas Lubanga's leadership. Lubanga heads the Union of Congolese Patriots (Union des patriotes congolais, UPC) group.
ugnet_: Bundibugyo in ADF Scare
Bundibugyo in ADF Scare Email This Page Print This Page Visit The Publisher's Site New Vision (Kampala) January 8, 2004 Posted to the web January 8, 2004 Frank Kibulya Kampala ABOUT 200 Allied Democratic Forces (ADF) rebels are stranded in the eastern DR Congo eastern region of Butalinga after UN peace-keeping force (MONUC) gave them an ultimatum to surrender or be forcefully disarmed. Sources in Bundibugyo district recently said 230 ADF remnants, including women and children, were stranded in Kaghema forest, three kilometres from the Ugandan border.( Which sources? This is nothing other then another NRM propaganda) The rebels reportedly refused to disarm, preferring relocation to an undisclosed location inside Uganda. Bundibugyo LC5 chairperson, Jackson Bambalira, said some heavily-armed rebels were recently sighted in Rusonga forest, Busaru sub-county. ( how about creating some IDP camps in Yoweri Museveni's back yard?...say in Mbarara, Busenyi, NTUGAMU, Kabale ?...then perhaps only then will the NRM dictatorship begin to appreciate the suffering people are going through in the IDP camps of Northern and Eastern Uganda)
ugnet_: NY Times Wants an Investigation of Iraq War Lies
NY Times Wants an Investigation of Iraq War Lies http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/11/opinion/11SUN1.html Three new reports cast further doubt on the administration's reckless rush to invade Iraq. Taken together, they paint a picture far different from the one presented to Americans early last year. They depict a world in which Saddam Hussein, though undeniably eager to make Iraq a threatening world power, was far from any serious steps to do that. The reports strengthen our conviction that whatever threat Iraq posed did not require an immediate invasion without international support. And they underline the importance of finding out how far the Bush administration's obsession with the Iraqi dictator warped the American intelligence reports that did so much to convince Congress and the public that the attack was justified. ^^
ugnet_: Bush was demanding excuse to invade Iraq in January 2001, says ex-treasury secre
Bush was demanding excuse to invade Iraq in January 2001, says ex-treasury secretary 12 January 2004 http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=480363 The Bush administration started making detailed plans for the invasion of Iraq within days of coming to office, with the President himself anxious to find a pretext to overthrow Saddam Hussein, a high-ranking former cabinet member said yesterday. The revelation is the latest in a string of potential embarrassments for the White House offered by the former treasury secretary Paul O'Neill, who has gone on the record for a new book looking at his bumpy two years at the centre of US power, The Price of Loyalty. Mr O'Neill said invading Iraq was "topic A" at the very first meeting of President George Bush's National Security Council, 10 days after his inauguration on 20 January 2001, and continued to be an abiding theme in follow-up meetings. "From the very first instance, it was about Iraq," said Mr O'Neill, who was a participant in all the meetings and provided voluminous minutes and other documents to the book's author, Ron Suskind. "It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The President saying 'Go find me a way to do this'." Mr O'Neill is the first cabinet member to implicate directly Mr Bush in planning a war against Iraq so early in his presidency. One of the documents passed to Mr Suskind was a secret dossier from the first few weeks of the administration entitled "Plan for post-Saddam Iraq". The disclosure will provide further ammunition for to Bush critics who believe the administration cynically exploited the 11 September terror attacks to launch an aggressive policy of global military interventionism that neo-conservative hawks such as Dick Cheney, the Vice-President, and Donald Rumsfeld, the Defence Secretary, had been advocating for years. It makes clear that hints of a link between Saddam and the 11 September attacks, repeatedly made by administration officials in the run-up to the war but never substantiated, were a political convenience, not the driving motivation behind the invasion. And it also poses a considerable challenge to the official version of history, which has sought to portray Mr Bush as undergoing a near-religious conversion after 11 September from a meek peacetime leader to a man with a global mission to stamp out evil. Mr O'Neill, who spoke to CBS's60 Minutes news programme yesterday, said he was surprised nobody at the NSC meetings asked questions such as "Why Saddam?" or "Why now?" "For me," he added, "the notion of pre-emption, that the US has the unilateral right to do whatever we decide to do, is really a huge leap." ^^
ugnet_: John Kerry Declares: Bush LIED
John Kerry Declares: Bush LIED http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0110.html These are very serious charges by a former high ranking Administration official. We already knew the Administration failed to focus on the threat from Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda. We already knew the Administration broke every promise they made to work through the U.N., use the resolution to enforce inspections, build a coalition, and plan for peace. But Secretary O'Neill's revelations would mean the Administration never intended to even try to keep those promises. It would mean they were dead-set on going to war alone since almost the day they took office and deliberately LIED to the American people, Congress, and the world. It would mean that for purely ideological reasons they planned on putting American troops in a shooting gallery occupying an Arab country almost alone. The White House needs to answer these charges truthfully because they threaten to shatter their already damaged credibility as never before.
ugnet_: State Department claims Russia provided Iraq with war aid
State Department claims Russia provided Iraq with war aid (Netters ...how do we know that this time arround the US administration of George is NOT LYING? Given the CREDIBILITY OF THE ADM., we simply don't know whether they are telling the truth nothing but the truth or yet is this another lie! http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001833846_goggles10.html Los Angeles Times WASHINGTON U.S. officials say they have found evidence corroborating the Bush administration's allegations that Russian companies sold Saddam Hussein high-tech military equipment that threatened U.S. forces during the invasion of Iraq last March.
RE: ugnet_: Re: [theafricanobserver] 8,000 Militia Fighters Quit
Are we to understand that you do NOT want the rebels defeated to bring an end to the suffering of the people of Northern Uganda? Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Re: [theafricanobserver] 8,000 Militia Fighters Quit Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:05:45 EST Smartest move so far by this so called "AMUKA MILITIA". Why sacrifice your lives in this Hopeless Museveni created wars.Let thoseUPDF soldiers who are still stupid enoughto fight in Yoweri Museveni's wars,do the fighting. Matek 8,000 Militia Fighters Quit Email This Page Print This Page Visit The Publisher's Site The Monitor (Kampala) January 9, 2004 Posted to the web January 9, 2004 Mercy Nalugo Kampala More than 6,000 members of the Amuka militia group have quit. Officials in Lira told The Monitor last evening that the militiamen, who were recruited to help the army fight the Lord's Resistance Army rebels, had grown restless. The militia fighters also cited harassment from their instructors and poor conditions within which they were training. "They had very little food and at times trained on empty stomachs," said an official, who declined to be named. The decision to quit followed a meeting with officials from the Resident District Commissioner's office, which failed to solve the impasse. The meeting was held at Aler Farm Training Camp in Erute North County. Relevant Links East Africa Uganda Arms and Military Affairs "The boys raised their complaints but somebody from the RDC's office said all those who wanted to go should leave immediately and they walked back to their counties," the official said. Army spokesman Maj. Shaban Bantariza declined to comment when contacted by telephone last night. Find high-speed net deals comparison-shop your local providers here. This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
ugnet_: FW: NYTimes.com Article: Bush Would Give Illegal Workers Broad New Rights
/ advertisement ---\ NOMINATED FOR 7 BROADCAST FILM CRITICS AWARDS IN AMERICA has been nominated for 7 BFCA Awards including Best Picture, Best Actress Best Director, Best Writer, Best Young Actor/Actress, and Best Song. Ebert Roeper give IN AMERICA "Two Thumbs Way Up!"Watch the trailer at: http://www.foxsearchlight.com/inamerica \--/ Bush Would Give Illegal Workers Broad New Rights January 7, 2004 By ELISABETH BUMILLER WASHINGTON, Jan. 6 - President Bush will propose a sweeping overhaul of the nation's immigration laws on Wednesday that could give legal status to millions of undocumented workers in the United States, senior administration officials said Tuesday night. Under Mr. Bush's proposal, which effectively amounts to an amnesty program for illegal immigrants with jobs in the United States, an undocumented worker could apply for temporary worker status here for an unspecified number of years, with all the employee benefits, like minimum wage and due process, accorded to those legally employed. Workers who are approved would be permitted to travel freely between the United States and their home countries, the officials said, and would also be permitted to apply for a green card granting permanent residency in the United States. Administration officials said that Mr. Bush would also propose increasing the number of green cards issued each year, which is now about 140,000, but they did not provide a specific number. The administration officials, who briefed reporters in a conference call on Tuesday night, said only that Mr. Bush would ask for a "reasonable increase." Mr. Bush's proposal, one administration official said, would "match willing workers with willing employers" and would "promote compassion" by fixing what one called "a broken system." The officials declined to call it an amnesty program. Under the proposal, workers in other countries could also apply for guest worker status in the United States, provided there was no American to take the job. But the president's plans are expected to face a tough fight in Congress, where conservative Republicans have said they consider programs like the one the president is proposing nothing more than amnesty for people who have broken the law. The president's proposals were designed to appeal to Hispanic groups, a constituency that the White House is focusing on as Mr. Bush seeks re-election this year. The proposals are expected to be embraced by President Vicente Fox of Mexico, who has been lobbying for them for the past three years. Mr. Bush is to meet with Mr. Fox at an economic summit next week in Monterrey, Mexico, where immigration will be a significant part of the agenda and Mr. Bush's proposals are likely to become a major focus. Mr. Bush's proposal is closely modeled on legislation introduced last summer by Senator John McCain and Representatives Jim Kolbe and Jeff Flake, all Republicans from Arizona. The issue of illegal workers has been an important one there. "We are ecstatic that they are addressing this," Mr. Flake said in a telephone interview on Tuesday night. "We've maintained all along that you have to deal with both sides of the issue - those who want to come to the country, and those who are here now. We're very happy to see a realistic approach. We deal with it daily, and we have to have a rational policy." Mr. Bush's proposal is in some ways more generous to illegal workers than is Mr. Flake's bill. The legislation, for example, requires that a guest worker wait three years before applying for a green card. Under Mr. Bush's proposal, a worker could apply for a green card right away. Mr. Bush's proposals apply to all illegal immigrants in the United States, which officials estimate at 8 million to 14 million people. About 60 percent are thought to be Mexican. No one is certain how many undocumented workers there are among all illegal immigrants, but Mr. Fox has said that some 3.5 million of the workers are Mexican. Mr. Bush entered office with immigration reform at the top of his foreign policy agenda, and in the late summer of 2001 various guest worker proposals were under discussion by United States and Mexican officials. But the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks led to increased concerns about the safety of America's borders and derailed the negotiations. Under Mr. Bush's proposals, an undocumented worker and an employer would have to apply for the guest worker program hand in hand, with the employer serving as the sponsor for the worker. There would also be a fee to register for the program, but officials would not say how much that would be. The plan also includes incentives for workers to return to their countries, like a promise of retirement benefits there based on income earned in the United States. Critics of Mr.
ugnet_: FW: NYTimes.com Article: Diplomacy: Powell Admits No Hard Proof in Linking Iraq to Al Qaeda
SURPRISE, SURPRISE! / advertisement ---\ NOMINATED FOR 7 BROADCAST FILM CRITICS AWARDS IN AMERICA has been nominated for 7 BFCA Awards including Best Picture, Best Actress Best Director, Best Writer, Best Young Actor/Actress, and Best Song. Ebert Roeper give IN AMERICA "Two Thumbs Way Up!"Watch the trailer at: http://www.foxsearchlight.com/inamerica \--/ Diplomacy: Powell Admits No Hard Proof in Linking Iraq to Al Qaeda January 9, 2004 By CHRISTOPHER MARQUIS WASHINGTON, Jan. 8 - Secretary of State Colin L. Powell conceded Thursday that despite his assertions to the United Nations last year, he had no "smoking gun" proof of a link between the government of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and terrorists of Al Qaeda. "I have not seen smoking-gun, concrete evidence about the connection," Mr. Powell said, in response to a question at a news conference. "But I think the possibility of such connections did exist, and it was prudent to consider them at the time that we did." Mr. Powell's remarks on Thursday were a stark admission that there is no definitive evidence to back up administration statements and insinuations that Saddam Hussein had ties to Al Qaeda, the acknowledged authors of the Sept. 11 attacks. Although President Bush finally acknowledged in September that there was no known connection between Mr. Hussein and the attacks, the impression of a link in the public mind has become widely accepted - and something administration officials have done little to discourage. Mr. Powell offered a vigorous defense of his Feb. 5 presentation before the Security Council, in which he voiced the administration's most detailed case to date for war with Iraq. After studying intelligence data, he said that a "sinister nexus" existed "between Iraq and the Al Qaeda terrorist network, a nexus that combines classic terrorist organizations and modern methods of murder." Without any additional qualifiers, Mr. Powell continued, "Iraq today harbors a deadly terrorist network, headed by Abu Musaab al-Zarqawi, an associate and collaborator of Osama bin Laden and his Al Qaeda lieutenants." He added, "Iraqi officials deny accusations of ties with Al Qaeda. These denials are simply not credible." On Thursday, Mr. Powell dismissed second-guessing and said that Mr. Bush had acted after giving Mr. Hussein 12 years to come into compliance with the international community. "The president decided he had to act because he believed that whatever the size of the stockpile, whatever one might think about it, he believed that the region was in danger, America was in danger and he would act," he said. "And he did act." In a rare, wide-ranging meeting with reporters, Mr. Powell voiced some optimism on several other issues that have bedeviled the administration, including North Korea and Sudan, while expressing dismay about the Middle East and Haiti. But mostly, the secretary, appearing vigorous and in good spirits three weeks after undergoing surgery for prostate cancer, defended his justification for the war in Iraq. He said he had been fully aware that "the whole world would be watching," as he painstakingly made the case that the government of Saddam Hussein presented an imminent threat to the United States and its interests. The immediacy of the danger was at the core of debates in the United Nations over how to proceed against Mr. Hussein. A report released Thursday by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a nonpartisan Washington research center, concluded that Iraq's weapons programs constituted a long-term threat that should not have been ignored. But it also said the programs did not "pose an immediate threat to the United States, to the region or to global security." Mr. Powell's United Nations presentation - complete with audiotapes and satellite photographs - asserted that "leaving Saddam Hussein in possession of weapons of mass destruction for a few more months or years is not an option." The secretary said he had spent time with experts at the Central Intelligence Agency studying reports. "Anything that we did not feel was solid and multisourced, we did not use in that speech," he said Thursday. He said that Mr. Hussein had used prohibited weapons in the past - including nerve gas attacks against Iran and Iraqi Kurds - and said that even if there were no actual weapons at hand, there was every indication he would reconstitute them once the international community lost interest. "In terms of intention, he always had it," Mr. Powell said. "What he was waiting to do is see if he could break the will of the international community, get rid of any potential future inspections, and get back to his intentions, which were to have weapons of mass destruction." The administration has quietly withdrawn a 400-member team
ugnet_: NYT: Congress Looks to Grant Legal Status to Immigrants
How it started: NATIONAL DESK | October 13, 2003, Monday Congress Looks to Grant Legal Status to Immigrants By STEVEN GREENHOUSE (NYT) 1019 words Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 9 , Column 5 ABSTRACT - Wave of immigrant legislation has gathered bipartisan momentum in recent weeks, as members of Congress think about next year's elections and seek to embrace Hispanic cause; Sen Orrin G Hatch is sponsoring bill that would grant legal status to tens of thousands of high school students or graduates who are illegal immigrants; another bill would grant accelerated citizenship to immigrants who serve in armed forces; another would grant legal status to 500,000 farm workers if they commit themselves to doing agricultural work for several more years; several lawmakers say they hope to use farm workers' bill as wedge to advance other legislation that would grant legal status to other groups of illegal immigrants, like hundreds of thousands working in restaurants and hotels; opponents of helping illegal immigrants vow to fight new bills (M) < /o:p>Details at: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FB0F1EFD3B5B0C708DDDA90994DB404482fta=y Find out everything you need to know about Las Vegas here for that getaway. This service is hosted on the Infocom network http://www.infocom.co.ug
Re: ugnet_: Re: [theafricanobserver] 8,000 Militia Fighters Quit
Ssabbo Semakula: You do not have to be a Nuclear Scientist or a genus to figure out that if after eighteen years of fighting wars, the NRM has not succeeded in defeating the "rebels" ; instead the NRM has succeeded in creating more displaced people in the IDP camps all throughout Northern and Eastern Uganda, more dead Ugandans (both the rebels and UPDF soldiers as well as ordinary civilians caught up in the firing line) , The most appropriate move, at this point, is to seek other avenue to tackle this issue ... not more wars! To directly answer your question, I do believe, and members of the International community would agree with me here (based on the CNN poll I recently posted ), that the LRA cannot defeated militarily. It seems it is only you (and perhaps Kaguta his Sycophants like Magazi and Batarinzi among the few) who for lack of analytical thinking, still harbor the notion, the believe, if you want, that the LRA can be defeated Militarily. While at it Prepare for ADF from the south! Matek In a message dated 1/12/2004 2:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are we to understand that you do NOT want the rebels defeated to bring an end to the suffering of the people of Northern Uganda? Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Re: [theafricanobserver] 8,000 Militia Fighters Quit Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:05:45 EST Smartest move so far by this so called "AMUKA MILITIA". Why sacrifice your lives in this Hopeless Museveni created wars. Let those UPDF soldiers who are still stupid enough to fight in Yoweri Museveni's wars, do the fighting. Matek 8,000 Militia Fighters Quit
Re: ugnet_: Re: [theafricanobserver] 8,000 Militia Fighters Quit
Ssabbo Semakula: You do not have to be a Nuclear Scientist or a genus to figure out that if after eighteen years of fighting wars, the NRM has not succeeded in defeating the "rebels" ; instead the NRM has succeeded in creating more displaced people in the IDP camps all throughout Northern and Eastern Uganda, more dead Ugandans (both the rebels and UPDF soldiers as well as ordinary civilians caught up in the firing line) , The most appropriate move, at this point, is to seek other avenue to tackle this issue ... not more wars! To directly answer your question, I do believe, and members of the International community would agree with me here (based on the CNN poll I recently posted ), that the LRA cannot defeated militarily. It seems it is only you (and perhaps Kaguta his Sycophants like Magazi and Batarinzi among the few) who for lack of analytical thinking, still harbor the notion, the believe, if you want, that the LRA can be defeated Militarily. While at it Prepare for ADF from the south! Matek In a message dated 1/12/2004 2:00:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are we to understand that you do NOT want the rebels defeated to bring an end to the suffering of the people of Northern Uganda? Original Message Follows From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ugnet_: Re: [theafricanobserver] 8,000 Militia Fighters Quit Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 21:05:45 EST Smartest move so far by this so called "AMUKA MILITIA". Why sacrifice your lives in this Hopeless Museveni created wars. Let those UPDF soldiers who are still stupid enough to fight in Yoweri Museveni's wars, do the fighting. Matek 8,000 Militia Fighters Quit
ugnet_: Why Narc is gradually losing direction.(Ugandan Political Opposition take Note!)
Why Narc is gradually losing directionBy JOSHUA G. BAGAKAS In his book, Principle-centred Leadership, Stephen Covey differentiates between following a map or following a compass in managing state affairs. Through a simple illustration, he shows why it is unwise to follow a map. Imagine an individual at point A intending to go to point B who obtains directions (or map) from someone who has used the same route before. The map gives the following information: Follow this road for about five kilometres until you reach a junction where a large tree can be seen to the left. Turn right here and go about one kilometre, and point B will be 200 yards from where an elderly woman is selling bananas. Clearly, arrival at the right destination depends on whether the large tree is still standing and the elderly woman is still selling bananas at the same spot. Unlike a map, a compass has a true north that is objective and not subject to change. Similarly, management by following a map-like strategy is of limited worth in a changing world. Towards the end of his tenure, President Moi's leadership related perfectly with management. It followed an outdated map. Based on his view of the mentality of Kenyans whom he had ruled for decades, he expected the map to take him to a familiar desired destination. Unfortunately, the map did not provide the professor of politics with an adjusted view of Kenyan society. Instead, it led him to unfamiliar territory, where his audience could shout him down to his face. During the period leading to the 2002 General Election, a number of politicians were obsessed with the idea (destination) of removing Kanu and Mr Moi from power. They pursued avenues, including accelerated opposition unity, perhaps at the expense of fundamental democratic principles. Understandably, the concept of an accelerated opposition unity, coming less than a month before election, was necessary to remove Kanu and Mr Mois project from power. But it was not sufficient to usher in meaningful change where democratic processes are recognised and respected. It is my opinion that, here a map rather than a compass, was used. The destination was an elected president who is consistently being reminded that he owes his success to a few politicians who handed him the presidency on a silver platter. The spirit of the contagious Memorandum of Understanding between the National Alliance Party of Kenya and the Liberal Democratic Party was guidance of the true compass. At the time, the participants expressed their commitment to issues like providing for a government of national unity and completing the constitutional review. Since then, shifts have occurred. Some were evident even before the General Election votes were fully counted. Midway through counting, it was clear Narc had won the presidency. Raila Odinga announced that Narc would not honour its commitment to form a government of national unity. The rationale was to have a strong opposition to keep the Government in check. I have, however, been made to understand that providing for a government of national unity was one item of the MoU signed between NAK and LDP. Mr Odinga, therefore, started the process of departure from the MoU and the rest is history. Yet he was later the staunchest defender of the other items in the MoU. On this, Mr Odinga lost focus of the true north compass and followed the wrong route on the map. The destination is rather obvious. For several years prior to the election, many leaders, in advocating change, articulated a need for national unity, constitution-making and strengthening the institutions. Then, their view seemed to be following the compass. Now they seem to be following some specific map. A few cases. The composition of President Kibakis government, including the Cabinet, may have a national representation, but it lacks the spirit of national unity. The most damaging is the manner in which the President seems to recycle some of President Kenyattas leadership patterns. Although a tribally or a regionally homogeneous composition of the kitchen Cabinet is not unique to the current president, these issues combined have led to the perception that President Kibaki is a regional rather than national leader. In effect, he has abandoned following the compass and instead has opted for a 30-year-old map. Sometimes the impression is created that some leaders deliberately choose to follow the wrong route on the map even when they see the correct one via a compass. They hope that the public will follow the same wrong map. Let me illustrate. In terms of legal and human rights issues, Mr Kiraitu Murungi is a knowledgeable man. He demonstrated his abilities for years when he fought and defended human rights. Indeed, he demonstrated that he followed the compass with a true north, and not a map. However, as the Minister for Justice and Constitutional Affairs, he argued that former President Moi cannot get pension unless he retires from
ugnet_: Museveni:I'll sack my critics(Otafiire watch out!!)
Museveni: I'll sack my critics By Sam Amanyire Jan 13, 2004 BUSHENYI - President Museveni has vowed to sack anyone who opposes him within the Movement. "I will continue sacking Movementists who oppose me since I can replace them with many people who want their jobs," Mr Museveni said here yesterday. "I still have power over my government," the President said while addressing local leaders at Bushenyi district council hall yesterday. In making the statement, Museveni was responding to a question by the former district chairman, Mr Yowasi Makaaru, who asked why prominent Movement leaders are expressing views different from the President's. At least two senior Movement leaders - former minister Eriya Kategaya and former Inspector General of Government Augustine Ruzindana - have opposed the official Movement position of wanting the two-term constitutional limits on the presidency lifted. Museveni yesterday repeated earlier remarks discounting Mr Ruzindana's contribution to the liberation struggle. "I met Ruzindana in 1974 and after three years he disappeared yet he claims to have been with me for 30 years," Museveni told the gathering. "These are some of the falsehoods these leaders have been peddling." Earlier in the day, while meeting farmers at Ruharo parish, the President said the Movement is undergoing an internal purge. "We are refining the Movement to get rid of people who call themselves leaders yet are lazy and talk aimlessly," he said. Museveni had visited Ruharo, which he is using as a demonstration for modern farming. Local families have been given heifers to rear, and vanilla vines and coffee seedlings to grow. Museveni told the crowd that he hates poor people and would like all people to be like him and his family. "[First Lady] Janet has never strapped a baby on her back or drawn water from a well on her head and I want all to be like her," Museveni told the peasants. He added that it is not good to stay among poor people because it is like a contagious disease. Museveni said he has transformed Nyabushozi, his home county, into a "modern area" compared to other places in the country. "If you go to Nyabushozi, there is a lot of development; permanent houses, good farms and people sending their children to university," he said. Museveni told the gathering that he invites delegations to his home in Rwakitura so that they can pass through Nyabushozi and draw lessons about how they can develop their own homes. "People of Nyabushozi are developed now; they are no longer the same but I am still above all of them," he said. Commenting about the Universal Primary Education programme, the President said the World Bank has agreed to provide lunch for school pupils if parents cannot afford it. He, however, said that the issue is still being discussed. © 2004 The Monitor Publications Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now
ugnet_: Vision alone will not save Uganda
Vision alone will not save UgandaBy Yoga AdholaJan 13, 2004 In his presidential epistle, Kategaya Wrong On Origin Of Third Term, published in The Monitor, December 28-Jan 3, 2004, President Museveni wrote: "Mr. Kategaya would like us believe that the vision for the future of Africa is so abundant and, therefore, it is not an issue. If this is so, why is it that Africa, 40 years after independence, has not had one country transition from Third World to First World? This is not accidental." This statement clearly shows how Mr Museveni has no sense of reality. He is simply delusional. To him it is a matter of having a vision and Africa will shift from a 'Third World' into a 'First World' status. He seems to think that 40 years is more than enough for Africa to have achieved that transition. What he does not seem to know is that there are countries outside Africa, specifically Latin America, which have been independent longer than 100 years and have not yet achieved what he calls 'First World' status. I would like to dispel these delusions but before that, I need to clarify on a few concepts. The 'First World' are the metropolitan countries--the real centres of the capitalist world, the points from which capitalism radiates to the rest of the world. On the other hand, the countries classified as the 'Third World' are the periphery of the capitalist world. These are often former colonies, which as colonies were mere extensions of the metropolitan economies. After independence, these were transformed into neo-colonies. However, whatever the new form, they remain the periphery of the capitalist world. They are not what President Museveni himself has often described as "independent and self-sustaining economies". This is the essential character, which differentiates them from 'First World' economies or the metropolis of capitalism. Independent and self-sustaining economies are those economies which initiate economic processes that they need and because they need them. As already stated, these are the countries of the 'First World'. The 'Third World' countries, on the other hand, are those economies, which are peripheral or derivative. They engage in economic processes, not because they need them, but because the economies of the metropolis cause them to. Uganda produces coffee not because it has need for it, but because the metropolitan countries need it. Cotton production was initiated in Uganda, not because Uganda needed cotton, but because the supply of cotton to the Lancashire cotton mills in England had become unreliable. In one word, the Third World economies are dependant. What Museveni is saying here is very similar to that funny story which used to be told about a herdsman who saw a Volkswagen car following a bus. Seeing that the VW was smaller than the bus, he developed the thought that the VW was a baby bus and would some day grow up to be a bus. Like the herdsman who does not know that a VW car cannot grow into a bus, Museveni too does not appreciate the qualitative difference between Third World economies and those of the metropolis. Arising from this failure to appreciate the differences, President Museveni ends up thinking that with just vision it is possible for the economy of a country like Uganda to become like that of Britain. Long before Museveni, a right-wing American professor of Economic History called W.W. Rostow had advanced the theory of stages of growth. Rostow outlined his theory in a book, The Stages of Economic Growth: a Non-communist Manifesto, first published in 1959. According to Rostow, all economies go through a single pattern of five stages of growth. From the stage of being traditional economies, they move to that of pre-condition for take off, followed by take-off, then drive to maturity, and finally that of mass-consumption. While Rotow's schema might reflect what happened before the era of imperialism, it is not representative of situations of Third World countries today. Gunder Frank, whom NRM ideologues are fond of quoting, once said that the so-called 'First World' economies are very different from those of the Third World. While they might have at one time been undeveloped, they were never underdeveloped as the economies of the Third World are. The underdeveloped aspect of the Third World economies makes them simply appendages of the economies of the First World and there is no way they are going to get out of that state of being mere appendages as long as they are within the imperialist network. And so, for President Museveni to think that by simply having vision, an economy like that of Uganda is somehow going to become like that of Germany, is nothing but delusion. The difference between developed capitalist economies when they were still undeveloped and underdeveloped economies like that of Uganda is fundamental. While they may appear similar, they are very different. The difference is as much as that between a calf and a goat, which are juxtaposed
ugnet_: FW: NYTimes.com Article: Temporary Immigration
/ advertisement ---\ NOMINATED FOR 7 BROADCAST FILM CRITICS AWARDS IN AMERICA has been nominated for 7 BFCA Awards including Best Picture, Best Actress Best Director, Best Writer, Best Young Actor/Actress, and Best Song. Ebert Roeper give IN AMERICA "Two Thumbs Way Up!"Watch the trailer at: http://www.foxsearchlight.com/inamerica \--/ Temporary Immigration January 12, 2004 President Bush wants to create a new class of "temporary" workers in America. As he said in his immigration proposal last week, he expects these workers to spend several years here, and he would offer them incentives to return permanently to their home countries. This is a reasonable idea but unduly limited. It is clear that there are low-skilled jobs that are open, and that there are many eager to come, earn higher wages here and then return. At the same time, some should be able to seek permanent residency. Moreover, the history of guest workers in America is a brutal one, filled with abuse by employers and the government as well as legitimate concerns by American workers. The challenge for the president, the Congress and the leaders of nations that would provide the new class of workers will be to find a better way to serve their needs, ensuring that those who are temporary are given a fair, enforceable deal while offering some portion of them the chance to stay and become permanent. Perhaps the most notorious guest worker program in recent American history involved the "braceros" who arrived to help harvest fields during World War II. Until 1964, more than three million of these workers migrated seasonally to pick vital crops like cotton or sugar beets in the Southwest. On paper, it appeared the braceros were getting a good deal and some actually did fairly well. They were given incentives like promises of transportation, housing and health care. To assure that they would not stay, a part of their salaries was deducted and was supposed to be given back when they returned home. Despite such assurances, many were harassed and discriminated against while they were here and few got back their deducted wages when they went home. By the time it ended, the braceros program had earned its reputation as a form of legalized slavery. For Mr. Bush's plan to succeed, it needs to offer at least some workers a way to stay in America. Mr. Bush is on the right track when he promises incentives - incentives that must actually work this time - for those who want to go back and perhaps start small businesses or buy farms with their earnings. But the president was far less clear about those who do not want to go home. There must be some workable option for such immigrants, especially those who have been here for years, working, raising families and paying taxes. Without an optional path to a green card and ultimately citizenship, many of these illegal immigrants simply won't come forward. Mr. Bush says his first priority when it comes to immigration reform is security, which makes it crucial to figure out the identities of the nation's 8 to 10 million illegal immigrants already here. The president's plan will not entice these immigrants out of the shadows if it simply turns out to be another way of deporting them. Giving illegal immigrants a route to legal status does not mean they should be allowed to jump ahead of those already in the torturously long line for green cards. Most of the bills in Congress will probably add to the long wait for those here illegally. Some proposals even levy a fine for crossing the border without proper documents in the first place. The better packages - like the one from Arizona Republicans including Senator John McCain - encourage temporary employment at the same time they offer some possibility of permanence. Another bill, the "AgJobs" bill, which would start with 500,000 agricultural workers' getting immediate legal status, has already been vetted enough by warring groups to have strong bipartisan support. Some suspect last week's announcement was little more than a sop to Hispanic voters and a prelude to Mr. Bush's visit today to Mexico. He can prove them wrong by putting his shoulder behind the AgJobs package that already has strong support from business, labor, Republicans and Democrats. Then he can expand his temporary worker program to appeal to that same, formidable coalition. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/12/opinion/12MON1.html?ex=1074935100ei=1en=58aa86c0f1b59ad5 - Get Home Delivery of The New York Times Newspaper. Imagine reading The New York Times any time anywhere you like! Leisurely catch up on events expand your horizons. Enjoy now for 50% off Home Delivery! Click here: http://www.nytimes.com/ads/nytcirc/index.html HOW TO ADVERTISE
ugnet_: Army War College report blasts war on terrorism
Army War College report blasts war on terrorism By Thomas E. Ricks 01/12/04 (Contra Costa Times) WASHINGTON - A scathing new report published by the Army War College broadly criticizes the Bush administration's handling of the war on terrorism, accusing it of taking a detour into an "unnecessary" war in Iraq and pursuing an "unrealistic" quest against terrorism that may lead to U.S. wars with states that pose no serious threat. The report, by visiting professor Jeffrey Record, who is on the faculty of the Air War College at Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala., warns that as a result of those mistakes, the Army is "near the breaking point." It recommends, among other things, scaling back the scope of the "global war on terrorism" and instead focusing on the narrower threat posed by the al-Qaida terrorist network. "(T)he global war on terrorism as currently defined and waged is dangerously indiscriminate and ambitious, and accordingly ... its parameters should be readjusted," Record writes. Currently, he adds, the anti-terrorism campaign "is strategically unfocused, promises more than it can deliver, and threatens to dissipate U.S. military resources in an endless and hopeless search for absolute security." Record, a veteran defense specialist and author of six books on military strategy and related issues, was an aide to former Sen. Sam Nunn when the Georgia Democrat was chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. In discussing his political background, however, Record noted that in 1999 while on the staff of the Air War College, that he published work critical of the Clinton administration. His essay, published by the Army War College's Strategic Studies Institute, carries the standard disclaimer that its views are those of the author and don't necessarily represent those of the Army, the Pentagon, or the U.S. government. But retired Army Col. Douglas C. Lovelace Jr., the director of the Army War College's Strategic Studies Institute, whose Web site carries Record's 56-page monograph, hardly distanced himself from it. "I think that the substance that Jeff brings out in the article really, really needs to be considered," he said. Publication of the essay was approved by the Army War College's commandant, Maj. Gen. David H. Huntoon Jr., Lovelace said. He said he and Huntoon expected the study to be controversial, but added, "He considers it to be under the umbrella of academic freedom." Larry DiRita, the top Pentagon spokesman, said he had not read the Record study. He added: "If the conclusion is that we need to be scaling back in the global war on terrorism, it's not likely to be on my reading list anytime soon." Many of Record's arguments, such as the contention that Saddam Hussein's Iraq was deterred and did not present a threat, have been made before by critics of the administration. Iraq, he concludes, "was a war-of-choice distraction from the war of necessity against" al-Qaida. But it is unusual to have such views published by the War College, the Army's premier academic institution. In addition, the essay goes further than many critics in examining the Bush administration's handling of the war on terrorism. Record's core criticism is that the administration is biting off more than it can chew. He likens the scale of U.S. ambitions in the war on terrorism to Hitler's overreach in World War II. "A cardinal rule of strategy is to keep your enemies to a manageable number," he writes. "The Germans were defeated in two world wars ... because their strategic ends outran their available means." He scoffs at the administration's policy, laid out by Bush in a November speech, of seeking to transform and democratize the Middle East. "(T)he potential policy payoff of a democratic and prosperous Middle East, if there is one, almost certainly lies in the very distant future," he writes. "The basis on which this democratic domino theory rests has never been explicated." The essay concludes with several recommendations. Some are fairly noncontroversial, such as increasing the size of the Army and Marines Corps, a position that appears to be gathering support in Congress. But Record also says the United States should scale back its ambitions in Iraq and be prepared to settle for a "friendly autocracy" there rather than a genuine democracy. Copyright: Knight Ridder.
ugnet_: Vail Trail Issue Friday, January 9, 2004....Same war, new excuse
Vail Trail Issue Friday, January 9, 2004 In The Newspaper Send Feedback Same war, new excuse Tom Boyd A year ago our nation was involved in a mass debate (lackluster and misinformed as it may have been) about the pros and cons of removing Saddam Hussein from office by military force. A year later I find that the logic behind supporting the war has flip-flopped. I find that those who support the war do so now for very different reasons than they did before the war started. A year ago I outlined the arguments for and against supporting the war. As an American I felt it was my duty to support our government in a critical hour. Although it was impossible for the average citizen to be well informed on matters of espionage and intelligence, there were a few general unknowns that limited my allegiance to the cause. Heres what I said in March of last year: If we are there to liberate Iraqi citizens, then why arent we liberating the oppressed people of the Congo, or Chinese practitioners of Falun Gong (who are being imprisoned and killed by the thousands for practicing a peaceful form of spirituality), or the Southern Sudanese Daki peoples, the Liberians, or any of the other hundreds of groups that live in oppression and turmoil in this world? And where were we during the Rwandan genocide? Im not satisfied by the liberation argument, and people who cling to it are suspiciously nave. So Im hoping that the reason we are risking our citizens lives, the lives of our soldiers, and the lives of Iraqi citizens is because NOT doing something now would create a greater risk down the road. And Im praying that our government can show us legitimate evidence of this by wars end. If they do, then President Bush has not betrayed our trust. And if there is no legitimate evidence that Hussein is part of an aggressive enemy network with overseas strike capability and weapons of mass destruction, then we are unfortunate, irresponsible citizens of a corrupt country. So thats what I said then. Now the truth is out, and I must unhappily say that Hussein was not part of an aggressive enemy network with overseas strike capability and weapons of mass destruction, and that we are unfortunate, irresponsible citizens of a corrupt country. The diehard George W. Bush supporters (who tend to follow the creed of my country right or wrong) have developed a few proxy arguments to replace their pre-war, pro-war diatribes. Primarily they are falling back on the liberation argument, claiming that weve done a great thing as a nation by removing an evil dictator from his throne. Thats true, but Ive never supported the liberation argument and I dont support it now. For every mass grave pointed to in Iraq, for every beating and torture chamber built under Saddams regime, I can point to several more mass graves and torture chambers in Guatemala, perpetrated with the documented knowledge (and sometimes assistance) of the CIA during the 1970s, 80s, and early 90s as part of the global Cold War effort. If you dont believe me, ask Henry Kissinger about it, or just spend about $600 on a round-trip plane ticket and go look at the mass graves yourself. Theyre still there, and so is Gen. Efran Ros Montt, the dictator who ruled Guatemala during that time and who is generally held responsible for mass killings of untold numbers of Mayan peasants in the Guatemalan mountains. But who cares about Guatemala, right? Most Americans cant even point to it on a map. What bothers me about the current state of our nation isnt that we are focusing on Iraq instead of Guatemala (a country of little concern in world economics and politics). What bothers me is that our leaders lied to us, and continue to lie to us. Our leaders think our nation is made up primarily of complacent, under-informed citizens who care more about saving 20 cents on Tyson chicken at Wal-Mart than they do about their complicit role in the deaths of an estimated 7,690 civilians half a world away. And theyre right. And that makes me ill. Still, it would have been better if George W. had been honest. He should have simply told us that he was going into Iraq to take out one of his familys great enemies, gain control over contracts to develop the oil reserves in Iraq, give those contracts to Dick Cheneys friends, bolster our energy resources, intimidate other world leaders with the old might-over-right philosophy and, in the meantime, create a U.S.-friendly puppet government in a troubled region. Seriously, those are pretty good reasons to go to war (and theyre the real reasons anyway), so why not just come out and say it? And while he was at it, why didnt G.W. tell us how much the war would cost? Why didnt he come out and say that the money promised to his Leave No Child Behind Act would be dramatically reduced in order to pay for ongoing war efforts in Iraq? Why not admit that the reason Iraq was honored with
ugnet_: Sorrows of Empire: Militarism, Secrecy, and the End of the Republic
Sorrows of Empire: Militarism, Secrecy, and the End of the Republic January 12, 2004 by Chalmers Johnson From the author of the prophetic national bestseller Blowback, a startling look at militarism, American style, and its consequences abroad and at home. In the years after the Soviet Union imploded, the United States was described first as the globe's "lone superpower," then as a "reluctant sheriff," next as the "indispensable nation," and now, in the wake of 9/11, as a "New Rome." Here, Chalmers Johnson thoroughly explores the new militarism that is transforming America and compelling its people to pick up the burden of empire. Reminding us of the classic warnings against militarism from George Washington's farewell address to Dwight Eisenhower's denunciation of the military-industrial complex Johnson uncovers its roots deep in our past. Turning to the present, he maps America's expanding empire of military bases and the vast web of services that supports them. He offers a vivid look at the new caste of professional warriors who have infiltrated multiple branches of government, who classify as "secret" everything they do, and for whom the manipulation of the military budget is of vital interest. Among Johnson's provocative conclusions is that American militarism is putting an end to the age of globalization and bankrupting the United States, even as it creates the conditions for a new century of virulent blowback. The Sorrows of Empire suggests that the former American republic has already crossed its Rubicon with the Pentagon leading the way.
ugnet_: Fwd: Different Opinions As Govt Mounts Pressure On Lra
Different Opinions As Govt Mounts Pressure On Lra Email This Page Print This Page African Church Information Service January 12, 2004 Posted to the web January 12, 2004 Crespo Sebunya Gulu The Acholi community in northern Uganda woke up in 2004 surrounded by thousands of government-armed militia forces and army personnel determined to decimate Joseph Kony, the leader of Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), a notorious rebel group operating in the region. Captain Mike Mukula, a Israeli trained anti-terrorist expert, and a government minister, who is also one of the leaders of Arrow Militia group, has confirmed that a 20,000-strong militia force is ready to combat Kony. A hardliner, Mukula has warned Kony that he (Kony) does not have monopoly on violence. Another hardliner, Moses Ecworu has been posted to Soroti district in north-eastern part of the country, as a Commissioner. He is alleged to have called for the killing of Acholi who cross over into Soroti. Apart from Gulu district in the north, Soroti has occasionally been targeted by the LRA forces. In his New Year message, President Yoweri Museveni warned that Kony will be defeated this year because the military has built up enough capacity. He said amnesty to Kony and his second in command, Vicent Otti, was over. Tribal militia fighters surrounding the Acholi include the Teso, Langi and the Karimojong. In addition, relations between President Museveni and Tabani, a son of the late former president Idi Amin, has been warming up. Tabani has declared that he will bring Kony out of the bush. The December 24, 2003 airlifting of 400 ex-rebel fighters belonging to Tabani, from the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) underlines this declaration. The presence of Ugandan army in the Sudan, monitoring the northern sector of Uganda, reveals a plan that may seal off Acholiland. However, the Roman Catholic Church is stepping up efforts to forestall the plan. On December 31, the church organised a mammoth demonstration in Gulu town, calling for peace. According to Carlos Rodriguez, a priest based in Gulu, 4,000 people attended. Even though the Catholic Church abhors Kony's excesses, it criticizes the military solution as having resulted in a no win situation, but causing dramatic increase in violence in the region. The Anglican Church is also not keeping quiet. The outgoing Head, Bishop Mpalanyi Nkoyoyo, wants the government to drop the military approach. "Stop condemning them, forgive them so that you win them over," he told a congregation on January 1, arguing that Kony should be treated like a prodigal son. "Kony was once a good boy and it is from our breasts that he suckled. He went astray, but needs to be forgiven. So, the new year should come with a new song," he said. But Museveni has taken an increasingly uncompromising stand. "Even if Kony is given a hand to come out of the mess, he will not accept the gesture," John Nagenda, a presidential advisor told a BBC journalist who sought to remind him that the arming of militia forces by the government would entrench concern that "Violence begets violence". The government's position comes in the wake of mounting domestic and international pressure, calling for settlement of the conflict, which has cost the nation about US$ 1.6 billion in its 17-year period. The United Nations (UN), Commonwealth, Inter-Governmental Authority on Development (IGAD), and some western states see the prolonging of the conflict as unacceptable. According to Museveni, the LRA has no political agenda. Their mission is mainly materialistic. "All these bandits are after is chicken and food," the president said recently. Some legislators from the north allege that Kony is a government agent whose intentions is to disorganise the Uganda Peoples Democratic Army (UPDA), which was established in 1986 to fight against perceived marginalisation of Acholi people from political and economic spheres. They had viewed Museveni's government as largely favouring southern tribes more than the north. "In fact Kony's men used to attack UPDA camps and even killed some senior commanders of the group," said Dr Okullu Epak, one of the members of parliament from the area. The legislators allege that Kony later fell out of favour, and turned his guns on the government. According to them, he did so after the government failed to pay him for his services. ---BeginMessage--- Different Opinions As Govt Mounts Pressure On Lra Email This Page Print This Page African Church Information Service January 12, 2004 Posted to the web January 12, 2004 Crespo Sebunya Gulu The Acholi community in northern Uganda woke up in 2004 surrounded by thousands of government-armed militia forces and army personnel determined to decimate Joseph Kony, the leader of Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), a notorious rebel group operating in the region. Captain Mike Mukula, a Israeli trained
ugnet_: Treasury wants O'Neill papers probed
Treasury wants O'Neill papers probed
Probe to focus on how possibly classified information appeared in a TV interview, spokesman says.
January 12, 2004: 6:03 PM EST
WASHINGTON (CNN) - The Treasury Department said Monday it is looking into how a government document from the very early days of the Bush administration -- marked "secret" and outlining plans for a post-Saddam Iraq -- became part of a CBS "60 Minutes" broadcast Sunday night.
"Based on the '60 Minutes' segment aired Sunday evening, there was a document that was shown that appeared to be classified," said Treasury Department spokesman Rob Nichols. "It was for that reason that it was referred to the U.S. inspector general's office."
Ex-Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill
Ousted Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, now an outspoken critic of the Bush administration, was a guest on the program, along with Ron Suskind, the author of a book for which O'Neill was the primary source. O'Neill said on the program that the administration was preparing plans to move against Iraq "from the very beginning."
Suskind told CNN he had no access to secret documents and O'Neill never improperly took classified papers after leaving the Administration.
"I am certain O'Neill never had it," said Suskind, author of "The Price of Loyalty", referring to a National Security Council document on post-Sadaam Iraq.
Suskind said O'Neill gained proper authorization to all 19,000 Government documents used as sources for the book. "He got the documents from lawyers at the Treasury Department when he made a request after he left," said Suskind.
Paul O'Neill was traveling Monday afternoon and did not return a phone call from CNN.
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The decision to refer the matter to the inspector general was made at a Monday morning Treasury Department meeting involving senior staff and department attorneys, Nichols said, and was made without the initiation or consultation of the White House.
There is a precedent for former Cabinet members to take information -- such as schedules, letters, press releases and speeches -- with them as they leave, but it would be illegal to take classified information.
The request for the investigation came as O'Neill's comments critical of the Bush administration sparked a fury of controversy in Washington. O'Neill clashed with the president on deficit spending and tax cuts, which ultimately led to O'Neill's departure.
Asked if seeking the probe may look vindictive, Nichols said, "We don't view it in that way," according to Reuters news agency.
In the book, O'Neill describes a disengaged President Bush who appeared determined to bring the United States into a conflict with Iraq for the purpose of ousting Saddam Hussein.
Asked about the assertions Monday in Mexico, President Bush defended his decision to go to war with Iraq and disputed O'Neill's comments.
In the upcoming book, O'Neill compares Bush's presence at Cabinet meetings to "a blind man in a room full of deaf people."
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O'Neill also maintains that his advice to Vice President Dick Cheney about steel tariffs and tax cuts was ignored, largely due to political considerations, according to excerpts from the book printed in Monday's Wall Street Journal.
O'Neill, who had served in the Ford administration and also as CEO of Alcoa Inc., a big aluminum producer, had argued that tax cuts would do serious damage to the federal budget and that tariffs would do little to help domestic steelmakers in the long run.
O'Neill's account of a disengaged President Bush eyeing war with Iraq from his first days in office drew jeers from White House officials, but Democrats said O'Neill's story shows Bush misled Americans about the road to war.
Commerce Secretary Don Evans, who was Bush's 2000 campaign chairman, said Bush asks tough questions and encourages debate in Cabinet meetings.
"He likes to see debate," Evans said. "He thinks it's very healthy, very constructive for the process. Oftentimes, he has to make the deciding decision when he has his advisers on both sides of the same subject."
Rep. Dick Gephardt, a Democratic presidential contender who supported the war, said at a campaign stop in Iowa: "It's a worrisome fact, and we need to look into it and find out what really went on."
Suskind's book is scheduled for publication Tuesday. O'Neill gave Suskind 19,000 internal documents and took no money for his role in the book.
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ugnet_: Quotable quotes
Museveni told the crowd that he hates poor people and would like all people to be like him and his family. [First Lady] Janet has never strapped a baby on her back or drawn water from a well on her head and I want all to be like her, Museveni told the peasants. He added that it is not good to stay among poor people because it is like a contagious disease. Museveni said he has transformed Nyabushozi, his home county, into a modern area compared to other places in the country. If you go to Nyabushozi, there is a lot of development; permanent houses, good farms and people sending their children to university, he said. Museveni told the gathering that he invites delegations to his home in Rwakitura so that they can pass through Nyabushozi and draw lessons about how they can develop their own homes. People of Nyabushozi are developed now; they are no longer the same but I am still above all of them, he said. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.558 / Virus Database: 350 - Release Date: 1/2/2004 image001.gif
ugnet_: Hutu Rebels Kill 17 People in Burundi
Hutu Rebels Kill 17 People in Burundi By ALOYS NIYOYITA .c The Associated Press BUJUMBURA, Burundi (AP) - Hutu rebels killed 17 people, including five soldiers, in attacks northwest of the capital, officials and witnesses said Monday. The violence was blamed on the National Liberation Forces, or FNL, the only Hutu rebel group that has refused to hold talks with the government to end the 10-year civil war. Seven civilians were killed when FNL rebels ambushed a minibus traveling near the town of Gihanga, 12 miles northwest of Bujumbura on Monday, said Brig. Gen. Germain Niyoyunguruza, commander of government soldiers in the region. Late Sunday, the insurgents attacked a house in the center of Gihanga, killing five members of one family and five soldiers in another part of the town, said Jean-Bosco Hatungimana, a local official. FNL spokesman Pasteur Habimana denied that the rebels were involved in the attacks. Three other Hutu rebel factions have signed cease-fire deals with the transitional government, which includes political parties from the Hutu majority and the Tutsi minority. More than 200,000 people, mostly civilians, have been killed in the conflict since it broke out in October 1993 after Tutsi paratroopers assassinated the central African nation's first democratically elected leader, a Hutu. Despite being in the minority, Tutsis have effectively controlled Burundi for all but a few months since independence in 1962. 01/12/04 22:59 EST
ugnet_: Rwanda: Genocide Survivors Flee Province Over Killings
I see Kaguta's handy work at play here!! Kagame watch out!!! MK Rwanda: Genocide Survivors Flee Province Over Killings Email This Page Print This Page Visit The Publisher's Site UN Integrated Regional Information Networks January 12, 2004 Posted to the web January 12, 2004 Kigali Several genocide survivors have fled Rwanda's southwestern province of Gikongoro for fear of becoming targets of killings that have rocked the area lately, a government bi-weekly newspaper, The New Times, reported on Monday. The newspaper quoted a member of the Rwandan Senate, Stanley Safari, as saying that seven survivors of the 1994 genocide had sought refugee in other parts of the country due to intimidation and murder attempts. "This is a clear indication of lack of prevention of the crime in the province," Safari was quoted as saying. "It is appalling that even now people are being hunted down to be killed." Four genocide survivors were reported to have been killed in Gikongoro in December 2003 by an alleged a gang of genocide suspects in order to prevent the survivors from testifying in the Gacaca justice system, introduced in the country in 2001. The Senate has accused government of being reluctant to stop the intimidation and the killings, claiming that some grassroots leaders were involved in the acts. However, Prime Minister Bernard Makuza told the senators last week that the country's security organs had arrested 25 suspects in connection with the killings. He said some of the suspects would be charged in law courts before the end of January. An umbrella organisation for survivors of genocide, known as IBUKA, reported in December 2003 that its members were killed in Gikongoro after they showed interest in testifying in the Gacaca courts. The Gacaca justice system, based on traditional village courts, was introduced to speed up trials for an estimated 85,000 suspects held in the nation's prisons, in connection with the genocide that claimed the lives of at least 800,000 people.
ugnet_: DRC Plunder: UK Accused of Failing to Act on Firms Named in UN Report
"In November of 2003, the Ugandan government was accused in a secret section of the same UN report of continuing with its policy of supporting rebel groups despite a promise not to do so. Kampala was also accused of "a shift to a more centralised, state-sponsored policy" of militia funding and mineral exploitation." DRC Plunder: UK Accused of Failing to Act on Firms Named in UN Report Email This Page Print This Page Visit The Publisher's Site The East African (Nairobi) January 5, 2004 Posted to the web January 6, 2004 Paul Redfern, Special Correspondent Nairobi THE BRITISH government has been accused of failing to act to investigate four UK companies accused of being involved in breaching UN guidelines in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. A number of British MPs, environmental groups and other development NGOs have voiced their concern at London's apparent reluctance to pursue the four companies named in a UN report. A panel of experts set up by the UN Security Council in June 2000 to investigate how the warring factions in the DRC were plundering gold, diamonds and the metallic ore coltan, which is vital in mobile phones, found that a number of multinational companies were involved. The four British companies accused of breaking the UN guidelines were the cargo operators Avient Air and Das Air, De Beers and Oryx Natural Resources. All have denied breaking the rules. London excused itself from taking any action on the issue on the pretext that the UN panel has now been disbanded and therefore nothing more can be done. However, a Security Council statement last month urged all states to act on the panel's findings and conduct their own inquiries. Panel chairman Ambassador Mahmoud Kassem said that all countries had been told of the procedures and knew what they had to do. But Britain's Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) excused itself from action on the basis that the UN report was "too general in content and relates only to some of the named companies." It added that pursuing the cases would be difficult "on the basis of what has been provided (by the UN) so far." Later however the DTI backtracked and amended its statement somewhat telling The Guardian newspaper that "contact has been made with the companies (named) and if further evidence is provided by the panel, the DTI will mediate between the parties to address the allegations." In November of 2003, the Ugandan government was accused in a secret section of the same UN report of continuing with its policy of supporting rebel groups despite a promise not to do so. Kampala was also accused of "a shift to a more centralised, state-sponsored policy" of militia funding and mineral exploitation. ( the some Militia have now been dispaced inside rwanda to cause choas) The allegations of Uganda's continued involvement with rebel militia's in the DRC were not published in the UN report released earlier this year and the British Broadcsating Corporation programme Crossing Continents notes that this "is not the first example of the international community turning a blind eye to abuses in the Congo." Now independent Ugandan MPs want to know why the British government - one of Kampala's largest aid donors - had not used its leverage to stop the continued exploitation in the DR Congo.
ugnet_: Museveni's NRM fundamental change
He added that it is not good to stay among poor people because it is like a contagious disease. Fellow Citizens: This is indeed NRM's VERSON of "FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE" The very people which Museveni now castigate for being poor, are the very people who contributed... rather enable Museveni to gain all the riches he now boast of. The fact is: Museveni stole the tax revenue of this poor Ugandan peasants to enrich himself and his movement sycophants! Matek : inline: Clouds.jpg
Re: ugnet_: Quotable quotes
In a message dated 1/12/2004 11:16:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Museveni told the crowd that he hates poor people and would like all people to be like him and his family. ..there you have it fellow citizens. Matek inline: Classic White.jpg
