Re: [UC] letter in UC Review, Clark Park closure

[Anthony West]

Thank you, Ray, for underscoring my point. Citizen activism is a good 
thing, and not only as it applies to parks and their support groups, but 
to all public services citywide. The best way to care for your 
neighborhood Rec Center or District Health Center is to participate in 
its Neighborhood Advisory Committee. The best way to support the Walnut 
Street Library is to join Friends of the Walnut Street Library. The best 
way to help with your neighborhood school is to be active in its Home 
School Association. The best way to provide feedback on neighborhood 
policework is to work on its Advisory Committee.


In a city without any form of local government, of course, all local 
issues are interrelated with citywide issues. Most aspects of public 
service have citywide citizens activist groups. They too can be joined. 
One I am particularly impressed with at the moment is Philadelphia 
Students Union, a lobbying and organizing group of high-school students! 
(See my FB page.)


I'm not disparaging the work that can be done be lone wolves like 
yourself either. But Benjamin Franklin's advice to a free people who 
must deal with their sovereign on difficult issues remains sound today: 
We must all hang together


-- Tony West


On 1/23/2010 11:59 PM, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:

the most revealing line from that article:


The best way to have a say in Clark Park, said [Tony]
West, is to become a member.





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Re: [UC] letter in UC Review, Clark Park closure

[Glenn moyer]

the most revealing line from that article:

 The best way to have a say in Clark Park, said [Tony]
 West, is to become a member.

The public evidence proves that this is untrue!  Mr West banned me from 
participation with the dog park committee despite a written request including 
a dues check. (Out of necessity, I had previously defended Clark Park dog 
owners at the witch hunt called the Quality of Life Task force.  FOCP had 
secretly demanded arrests to stop all of the killing!)

 On this public listserv, I published the documentation showing that Mr. West 
cashed my check, and then happily informed me that I would not be permitted to 
attend the closed meetings. (Mr. West can be ebullient when he commands!) I 
consider the dues requirement, over neighborhood citizens, a form of legalized 
extortion!

In the dog park example, over 80 neighbors paid FOCP, as the only way to have a 
VOICE.  FOCP was then caught cheating when Mr. West added votes to the tally, 
which was publicly observed.  A neighbor publicly revealed that she had been 
tricked by a deceptive dog park survey.  (Of course, the data and sampling 
methodology were considered unimportant to provide to the angry neighbors)

It's all sweetness and togetherness when money is demanded to allow us to have 
a voice and rights in community issues.  (The UCD redesign plan is a community 
matter and not an exclusively FOCP inner-circle matter, even if Mr. Chance 
believes otherwise.)
 
Consider:  The FOCP web site looks very impressive, but can anyone find the 
identities of the planning committee? Can anyone find a process to invite 
effected park stakeholders, other than to give money?  We are not allowed to 
know when they meet, what they decide, nor even their identities. But the 
picture of all the young upscale white people sitting around the new kiddie 
swimming pool is lovely.  

It's information from upscale used car salesmen!! 

Glenn 





Glenn


-Original Message-
From: UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN laserb...@speedymail.org
Sent: Jan 23, 2010 11:59 PM
To: univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] letter in UC Review, Clark Park closure

Glenn moyer wrote:
 Dear neighbors,
 
 You probably read about the latest FOCP survey victims in
 the UC Review last week.  The report also uncovered that
 the FOCP/UCD partnership plans to close A park in March.
 The editor published my response this week.  (Sorry for
 not providing a link.  For some reason, my message
 bounces back when I include a UC Review link. Just type
 in Weekly Press or University City review)



here's the link to the article about the clark park meeting:

http://tinyurl.com/yar6jp6




the most revealing line from that article:

 The best way to have a say in Clark Park, said [Tony]
 West, is to become a member.




the most revealing comment so far about that article:

 Frank L. Chance | chanc...@gmail.com JAN 15 | I would
 also like to thank the UCR for covering *our* meeting. It
 is very important to get the word out to *our* community
 about *our* activities, and especially about the upcoming
 revitalization construction in Park A.




and here's glenn's letter about that article:

http://tinyurl.com/y995xgm


 Re: Mistrust Generated Over Results of the Large Events
 Survey at Friends of Clark Park UC Review | 20.JAN.10
 
 Eight years ago, I reported in this paper that the Clark
 Park Music and Arts festival and Woodland Ave. Reunion
 were targeted by one of these dishonest FOCP surveys.
 These surveys have always been an attempt to manufacture
 a crisis, and bully individual Clark Park stakeholder
 groups. Dog owners, festival organizers, drummers, and
 immigrant soccer players have all been targeted by the
 leadership of FOCP over the years. The People?s flea
 market organizers are only the latest victims.
 
 Corroborated by the current article, the FOCP and their
 UCD partners have instituted a pay to play power
 structure over a public Clark Park. At this point, your
 readers probably laughed at the reassurances about the
 survey and justifications by the civic association
 leaders. But the ridiculous survey is not the important
 information Ms. Contosta uncovered.
 
 Since the planned UCD redesign of Clark Park was first
 announced, the leadership of FOCP has maintained a secret
 exclusive back room process over all park plans, and does
 not allow the public or stakeholders to participate.
 Their public meetings are tightly controlled dog and pony
 shows at which they sell their plans formed in back
 rooms. Throughout the years, this redesign process has
 been repeatedly rejected by the larger community as well
 as the members of the FOCP. A so called planning
 committee decides where to put fountains, etc. Have the
 public or stakeholder representatives ever been invited
 to participate in those meetings?
 
 The park is about to be closed between Baltimore and
 Chester. The three month timetable reported is no more
 believable than any survey conclusions. This park
 

Re: [UC] letter in UC Review, Clark Park closure

[Glenn moyer]

But Benjamin Franklin's advice to a free people who 
must deal with their sovereign on difficult issues remains sound today: 
We must all hang together

It's true!  It's up to the citizens of this community to stick together and 
stop Mr. West and his gang from destroying our park and our rights as a 
citizens.  While we may think of Mr. West, as a Sheriff of Nottingham stooge 
collecting tribute, it's really a struggle against the powerful ruthless master 
that must bind us together!

Citizen Glenn 


-Original Message-
From: Anthony West anthony_w...@earthlink.net
Sent: Jan 24, 2010 8:36 AM
To: univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] letter in UC Review, Clark Park closure

Thank you, Ray, for underscoring my point. Citizen activism is a good 
thing, and not only as it applies to parks and their support groups, but 
to all public services citywide. The best way to care for your 
neighborhood Rec Center or District Health Center is to participate in 
its Neighborhood Advisory Committee. The best way to support the Walnut 
Street Library is to join Friends of the Walnut Street Library. The best 
way to help with your neighborhood school is to be active in its Home 
School Association. The best way to provide feedback on neighborhood 
policework is to work on its Advisory Committee.

In a city without any form of local government, of course, all local 
issues are interrelated with citywide issues. Most aspects of public 
service have citywide citizens activist groups. They too can be joined. 
One I am particularly impressed with at the moment is Philadelphia 
Students Union, a lobbying and organizing group of high-school students! 
(See my FB page.)

I'm not disparaging the work that can be done be lone wolves like 
yourself either. But Benjamin Franklin's advice to a free people who 
must deal with their sovereign on difficult issues remains sound today: 
We must all hang together

-- Tony West


On 1/23/2010 11:59 PM, UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN wrote:
 the most revealing line from that article:

 The best way to have a say in Clark Park, said [Tony]
 West, is to become a member.



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[UC] all real-estate wheeler-dealers are secret

[Anthony West]

It has, for at least 10 years, been easy and effortless to join this 
Planning Committee. When you do that, you immediately meet your 
neighbors who are working on this project with you, and you will learn 
about them and from them. Since PlanCom literally consists of everyone 
who shows up, who cares enough about the park to spend $10, there's no 
barrier. It's easier to become a Friend of Clark Park than a citizen of 
the USA, that's for sure!


By the same token, no member of FoCP will ever be singled out for 
persecution by greedy business interests whose designs on the park have 
been thwarted. Individual membership information is confidential and 
will remain so. We are scrupulous about respecting confidentiality. Our 
process has worked quite well over the years.


Call  the current President of FoCP, Frank Chance, at (215) 847-0853, or 
email me, if any of you wishes to become involved in park planning. We'd 
love to have you aboard. Clark Park has won more than $500,000 in grants 
for its rehabilitation, in part because FoCP has mobilized the community 
to lobby for this expense. The park hasn't gotten a dime of capital 
expenditure since 1965. Anybody can see its infrastructure is wearing out.


-- Tony West


Consider: The FOCP web site looks very impressive, but can anyone find 
the identities of the planning committee? Can anyone find a process to 
invite effected park stakeholders, other than to give money? We are 
not allowed to know when they meet, what they decide, nor even their 
identities. But the picture of all the young upscale white people 
sitting around the new kiddie swimming pool is lovely.

It's information from upscale used car salesmen!!

Glenn
   



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Re: [UC] letter in UC Review, Clark Park closure

[Anthony West]

At some point, it does befall a neighborhood that it speak as one on a 
public-spending controversy. So let's speak out now, West Philadelphia!


All of you who hate improvements for Clark Park, speak out now! Saunders 
Pk is getting improvements. Malcolm X Pk is getting improvements. 
Carroll Pk is getting improvements. Most normal Philadelphians want to 
see improvements in their neighborhood parks. Why do you hate 
improvement in Clark Pk, the neighborhood across from your residence, 
Glenn? In the past, you have complained it's harder to find whores in 
your front yard because Clark Pk has been improved. I respect your 
outspoken sexual preferences; we all know now what you want from your 
neighbors now.


But I can live without whores in Clark Park - without passing judgement 
on other folks' sexual activity. And I think you can do it as well. A 
man of the world like yourself can find other places to purchase 
commercial sex. You don't need to get this service in Clark Park. You 
say you're thinking of taking your trade somewhere else; please do.


-- Tony West



It's up to the citizens of this community to stick together and stop Mr. West 
and his gang from destroying our park and our rights as a citizens.  While we 
may think of Mr. West, as a Sheriff of Nottingham stooge collecting tribute, 
it's really a struggle against the powerful ruthless master that must bind us 
together!

Citizen Glenn
   



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[UC] Important falsehood on FOCP web site exposed

[Glenn moyer]

All members of the Friends of Clark Park are welcome to be part of our many 
committees. Contact FoCP at frie...@clarkpark.info or (215) 552-8186 if you're 
interested in increasing your involvement in Clark Park.


In preperation for my legal defense, I want to expose this incredible falsehood 
publicly! It's from the FOCP web site. It seriously impacts all the ridculous 
misinformation about access to closed FOCP committees that you've received.  
This is an example of why FOCP has lost all credibility as an organization.  
(only 8 people showed up in support of their last general election while the 
auditorium was filled with supporters of a targeted group)

Fact:  The President of FOCP can ban any member of the association from any 
committee.  I proved that publicly before the dog park vote. The proof was 
conclusive. 

Another fact and anecdote about FOCP committees:  When the FOCP members once 
ordered their leaders, via motion from the floor, to allow a proposal to be 
presented for their consideration, they publicly voted with the understanding 
that A SPECIFIC FOCP member would form and chair an ad hoc committee: to 
propose a simple process to invite park stakeholders to important meetings. 

Fact: At the President's discretion, he may decree that an ad hoc committee 
must be chaired by a board member.  The FOCP president has the power to 
silence anyone, even when the majority of members have publicly ordered the 
leaders to allow the specific discussion.  Of course, nothing in the by laws 
prevents ad hoc committees from being led by non-board members.  (I have the 
written record of the occurrence.)

Silencing anyone outside of public view:  The inner circle of FOCP had verbally 
opposed the membership's motion, to enhance inclusiveness, on the grounds that 
their board volunteers were too busy.  When I VOLUNTEERED to do all the work 
myself, the members overwhelmingly approved the motion and I became the 
chairmen to form the committee!  

Key point:  The President informed me that Mr. West would take over my proposal 
only after the public meeting!!

He waited until he received my thank you letter with an initial outline of the 
plan!  He informed me that Tony West would be the chairmen and cited the false 
rule.  Later, Mr. West assigned my role to pass out FOCP membership forms, and 
I have been banned from delivering my promised presentation to the members 
since that time!!! 

Don't believe that you will be allowed a voice in any fair process because you 
pay the FOCP!!!  Don't believe the FOCP web site.  (Note:  The web person from 
FOCP probably does not know the falsehoods being provided by the inner circle.)

Reporting the truth,
Glenn




   



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[UC] Phone line to nowhere, identity of committee

[Glenn moyer]

Neighbors,

I've been studying civic associations for a long time with the intention of 
publishing a book based on a case study of the UC District.  Now that I'm 
preparing a legal defense, I finally need to get off my ass and pull the book 
together too.


Why is the identity of committee members important when neighborhood committees 
are closed to the public?  The phone to nowhere illustrates the issue.  

When the original UCD plan to redesign Clark Park was being fought, the FOCP 
members were publicly told that no one in the community had any objections 
earlier, and that it was too late to include any neighborhood feedback. During 
the confrontation of the lies, two separate neighbors told a public assembly 
that the phone number being advanced was never answered and there was no 
answering machine!!  

The phone number, like e-mail addresses today, was a total decoy!  Most people 
would call a couple of times and be intimidated to tell the experience 
publicly.  Luckily, two of our neighbors called daily and exposed the decoy 
set-up!  I heard other audience members then say, yea I called too.

Even if we accepted that Clark Park and our rights should be redesigned in back 
rooms, think of these opportunities for input that are simply decoys.  When 
neighbors can send their comments, protests, etc., through a known individual, 
they might be more likely to know if their effort was ever considered by 
anyone, by the committee.  Keeping identities of neighborhood committees secret 
has nothing to do with confidentiality.  That's nonsense!  

A closed anonymous committee, with only phone lines to nowhere, is not 
compatible with the most basic principles of an open democratic society, even 
if the FOCP inner-circle had credibility.  It's a complete waste of time to 
respond, in good faith, to such organizations that use decoys! That type of 
trick leads people to a feeling of helplessness.

Power to the people,
Glenn
 

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Fw: Re: [UC] Demand letter to FOCP, letter in UC Review, Clark Park closure

[Glenn moyer]

Demand letter to the FOCP Board and Officers

Dear President Chance,

Please forward the e-mail post below to each Board member and officer of the 
FOCP, as well as a cc of the forward to me.  I am also sending this request to 
the public listserv which serves our community.  I am a citizen of this 
community, and a past member of the FOCP. 

During open public discussions about The Friends of Clark Park plans to 
redesign park A., your spokesperson, Mr. Anthony West, made these serious 
accusations on a public e-mail listserv. 

Does the FOCP organization support your spokesperson's accusations directed at 
me of engaging in a pattern of serious illegal and unsavory activity?  I demand 
an immediate response from the Board of the Friends of Clark Park.

Within 72 hours, I will be using your spokesperson's public accusation, as an 
example of the relationship between the FOCP leadership and our community and 
residents. 
 

Mr Chance, as you hoped, I am preparing a legal defense against libel based on 
the letter I published in the UC Review.  I would encourage the FOCP board not 
to file such a lawsuit against me.  I will be prepared to immediately file a 
frivolous lawsuit action.

As to the false and malicious accusations against me by Mr. Anthony West, I 
will wait briefly for a formal reply from the FOCP Board, before taking actions 
directly against the association.  If the FOCP board does not support this 
public accusation by your leader and spokesperson; you have a defined process 
to remove Mr. Anthony West from the association immediately, and as FOCP 
representative to UCD committees.  

The discussion about Clark Park is a very serious community topic, and the 
discussion was public.  Mr. West's malicious libelous accusations were done 
while he was representing the position of the FOCP park redesign committee. I 
will interpret non-action by the Board, as support for Mr. West's accusations, 
and act accordingly. 

 
I demand an immediate response,
Glenn Moyer 

1st request via Mr. Frank Chance




-Forwarded Message-
From: Anthony West anthony_w...@earthlink.net
Sent: Jan 24, 2010 12:01 PM
To: univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: Re: [UC] letter in UC Review, Clark Park closure

At some point, it does befall a neighborhood that it speak as one on a 
public-spending controversy. So let's speak out now, West Philadelphia!

All of you who hate improvements for Clark Park, speak out now! Saunders 
Pk is getting improvements. Malcolm X Pk is getting improvements. 
Carroll Pk is getting improvements. Most normal Philadelphians want to 
see improvements in their neighborhood parks. Why do you hate 
improvement in Clark Pk, the neighborhood across from your residence, 
Glenn? In the past, you have complained it's harder to find whores in 
your front yard because Clark Pk has been improved. I respect your 
outspoken sexual preferences; we all know now what you want from your 
neighbors now.

But I can live without whores in Clark Park - without passing judgement 
on other folks' sexual activity. And I think you can do it as well. A 
man of the world like yourself can find other places to purchase 
commercial sex. You don't need to get this service in Clark Park. You 
say you're thinking of taking your trade somewhere else; please do.

-- Tony West



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Re: [UC] Demand letter to FOCP, letter in UC Review, Clark Park closure

[Anthony West]

Now a demand letter, on an ummoderated listerve.

-- Tony West



On 1/24/2010 5:58 PM, Glenn moyer wrote:

Demand letter to the FOCP Board and Officers
   



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Re: Fw: Re: [UC] Demand letter to FOCP, letter in UC Review, Clark Park closure

[Anthony West]

Longtime readers of UC-list will recall that, for the past five years, 
Glenn occasionally pretends to communicate with FoCP presidents by 
writing them on UC-list, although he knows they don't subscribe to it 
and don't receive the email you are reading. It's all a fake.


-- Tony West



On 1/24/2010 5:58 PM, Glenn moyer wrote:

Demand letter to the FOCP Board and Officers

Dear President Chance,

Please forward the e-mail post below to each Board member and officer of the 
FOCP, as well as a cc of the forward to me.  I am also sending this request to 
the public listserv which serves our community.  I am a citizen of this 
community, and a past member of the FOCP.
   



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[UC] Glenn and the whores of Clark Park

[Anthony West]

When Glenn writes on UC-list, he isn't doing so as a spokesman for his 
real-estate operation (even when he's peddling his real estate on this 
list!). He speaks as an individual on this list. That's the same for me.


When a member of any neighborhood group writes, like Glenn, as an 
individual on UC-list, they always write as individuals and never as 
representatives of any agency or business. That's because UC-list is an 
unmoderated listserve. If they claim they are representing their group's 
claims ... then that's what they're claiming. But it ain't true without 
the letterhead.


For at least six years now, Glenn has been pelting the readers of 
UC-list with incessant accusations that his demons -- Penn gentrifiers 
(like himself) -- are trying to drive whores out of Clark Park. Anyone 
who cares to rummage around in purple archives will find copious 
concerns about whores by Glenn, and none by anyone else.


Personally, I do not support commercial sex in Clark Park. Friends of 
Clark Park does not support commercial sex in Clark Park.


Glenn, if you don't support commercial sex in Clark Park, just say so -- 
or at least quit reminiscing about its vanished glories on this list. 
There are list archives, after all.  You are UC-list's sole pro-whore 
contributor, aren't you? Most of us never wanted to hear about this 
subject in our neighborhood park, but you kept pelting us with it, year 
after year. Please let it go.


-- Tony West

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[UC] why they go so low, the power cravings

[Glenn moyer]

Neighbors,

I've talked with several of you about the various forms of intimidation that 
you've experienced at the hands of the civic association leaders over the 
years.  Rumors, intimidation at your job, and vandalism are very serious.   
Both Ad hominem and straw man tactics attack individuals directly instead of 
supporting one's position.

Why do some of these leaders go so pathalogically low?  Tony is a special 
jackass, but the stories and my own experience show me that others go deep into 
the slime too! Do they believe they are invincible liars?  

I believe the motivation is a frightening craving for the illusion of power, 
that pushed Tony with his serious lies.  He could get into trouble for such 
potentially damaging lies.  These tactics do not win arguments.  Nor are they 
normal reactions to just having losing arguments or unfair desires for middle 
class privilege!  Would you ever think of telling lies like Tony did about me 
to win an argument???

Can you imagine the type of harm that Mr. West's lies (straw man 
technique)could do?  

People on the list know that West is a jackass, at this point.  But read again 
what West wrote and think of all the possible harm such pathalogical lying 
could do.  (e.g. One of the FOCP board members and a friend of mine has known 
my girlfriend for years in a professional setting.  And people around the world 
can access our public listserv unlike UC Neighbors.)

Here is what the leader of the community, spokesperson and researcher for FOCP, 
UCD committee man, Tony West, the jackass, posted:

Why do you hate 
improvement in Clark Pk, the neighborhood across from your residence, 
Glenn? In the past, you have complained it's harder to find whores in 
your front yard because Clark Pk has been improved. I respect your 
outspoken sexual preferences; we all know now what you want from your 
neighbors now.

But I can live without whores in Clark Park - without passing judgement 
on other folks' sexual activity. And I think you can do it as well. A 
man of the world like yourself can find other places to purchase 
commercial sex. You don't need to get this service in Clark Park. You 
say you're thinking of taking your trade somewhere else; please do.

-- Tony West













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[UC] Gelenn his whores

[Anthony West]

So you continue not to oppose commercial sex in Clark Park, Glenn. 
Everything you have ever written is recorded in the archives of UC-list. 
You are the sole pro-whore contributor to this list. You worked hard for 
many years to earn this distinction.


Let me repeat: I'm not against you as a person. I'm not against 
commercial sex as a person. But if you are still totally for commercial 
sex in our neighborhood park, I am still totally against it.


If you have changed your mind, and will no longer publicly defend 
prostitution in the park, then I will no longer criticize you for 
defending it.


-- Tony West



Neighbors,

I've talked with several of you about the various forms of intimidation that 
you've experienced at the hands of the civic association leaders over the 
years.  Rumors, intimidation at your job, and vandalism are very serious.   
Both Ad hominem and straw man tactics attack individuals directly instead of 
supporting one's position.

Why do some of these leaders go so pathalogically low?  Tony is a special 
jackass, but the stories and my own experience show me that others go deep into 
the slime too! Do they believe they are invincible liars?

I believe the motivation is a frightening craving for the illusion of power, 
that pushed Tony with his serious lies.  He could get into trouble for such 
potentially damaging lies.  These tactics do not win arguments.  Nor are they 
normal reactions to just having losing arguments or unfair desires for middle 
class privilege!  Would you ever think of telling lies like Tony did about me 
to win an argument???

Can you imagine the type of harm that Mr. West's lies (straw man 
technique)could do?

People on the list know that West is a jackass, at this point.  But read again 
what West wrote and think of all the possible harm such pathalogical lying 
could do.  (e.g. One of the FOCP board members and a friend of mine has known 
my girlfriend for years in a professional setting.  And people around the world 
can access our public listserv unlike UC Neighbors.)
   



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Re: [UC] Gelenn his whores

[Kimm Tynan]

Could I suggest that the two of you take this private?  No one else is
participating in this pissing match, and I can¹t imagine that anyone is
interested in following it.

Kimm


On 1/24/10 8:09 PM, Anthony West anthony_w...@earthlink.net wrote:

 So you continue not to oppose commercial sex in Clark Park, Glenn.
 Everything you have ever written is recorded in the archives of UC-list.
 You are the sole pro-whore contributor to this list. You worked hard for
 many years to earn this distinction.
 
 Let me repeat: I'm not against you as a person. I'm not against
 commercial sex as a person. But if you are still totally for commercial
 sex in our neighborhood park, I am still totally against it.
 
 If you have changed your mind, and will no longer publicly defend
 prostitution in the park, then I will no longer criticize you for
 defending it.
 
 -- Tony West
 
 
  Neighbors,
 
  I've talked with several of you about the various forms of intimidation
 that you've experienced at the hands of the civic association leaders over
 the years.  Rumors, intimidation at your job, and vandalism are very serious.
 Both Ad hominem and straw man tactics attack individuals directly instead of
 supporting one's position.
 
  Why do some of these leaders go so pathalogically low?  Tony is a special
 jackass, but the stories and my own experience show me that others go deep
 into the slime too! Do they believe they are invincible liars?
 
  I believe the motivation is a frightening craving for the illusion of
 power, that pushed Tony with his serious lies.  He could get into trouble for
 such potentially damaging lies.  These tactics do not win arguments.  Nor are
 they normal reactions to just having losing arguments or unfair desires for
 middle class privilege!  Would you ever think of telling lies like Tony did
 about me to win an argument???
 
  Can you imagine the type of harm that Mr. West's lies (straw man
 technique)could do?
 
  People on the list know that West is a jackass, at this point.  But read
 again what West wrote and think of all the possible harm such pathalogical
 lying could do.  (e.g. One of the FOCP board members and a friend of mine has
 known my girlfriend for years in a professional setting.  And people around
 the world can access our public listserv unlike UC Neighbors.)
 
 
 
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Re: [UC] Glenn and the whores of Clark Park

[Glenn moyer]

Personally, I do not support commercial sex in Clark Park. Friends of 
Clark Park does not support commercial sex in Clark Park.

Glenn, if you don't support commercial sex in Clark Park, just say so -- 
or at least quit reminiscing about its vanished glories on this list. 
There are list archives, after all.  You are UC-list's sole pro-whore 
contributor, aren't you? Most of us never wanted to hear about this 
subject in our neighborhood park, but you kept pelting us with it, year 
after year. Please let it go.

-- Tony West

and Mr. West continues

Let me repeat: I'm not against you as a person. I'm not against 
commercial sex as a person. But if you are still totally for commercial 
sex in our neighborhood park, I am still totally against it.

If you have changed your mind, and will no longer publicly defend 
prostitution in the park, then I will no longer criticize you for 
defending it


Mr. Jackass is pretending that everyone on the list is stupid now.  Everyone is 
mesmerized by his commanding brilliance, because his straw man is so 
sophisticated that all are in awe.  Tony West is a legend in the mind of Tony 
West!

The truth:  The beginning of the new Penn myth for West Philly included a 
massive marketing campaign, which insinuated that our neighborhood and park 
were over run with prostitutes, gang members, and drug addicts.  This was not 
isolated, but was repeated in publications locally and around the country for 
several years.  At times, the literature claimed that parts of the neighborhood 
had been saved, while these images were used simultaneously for other parts of 
our community.   The FOCP, like it did with the overall UCD/Penn campaign, 
repeated this false and negative portrayal about Clark Park.  
 

I often ridiculed this dangerous literature, which is what Mr. Jackass is 
referring to. I also attempted to make neighbors recognize, back when UCD/FOCP 
had some popularity and was not recognized for what it is, that the negative 
portrayals were about all of us!  

That dishonest literature, like an FOCP survey, was intended to manufacture a 
problem and crisis, in order to justify radically changing our community.  I 
was pointing out that the portrayal of us, as criminals, was a dangerous lie!  
There were no whores in the park, only our community and neighbors.

Does anyone believe that Mr. West is that stupid? Did he really believe that I 
was advocating prostitution in the park, and that I wanted to hire prostitutes? 
 Others criticized me for being so adamant in my literary criticism and 
coverage of the Penn propaganda.  But I felt that it was extremely important 
for neighbors to recognize the patterns and understand fascist techniques, that 
seriously threatened all of us in our local community. (This cleaner and 
safer literature happened while Americans were being told that freedom and 
democracy were the goals for Iraq.) 

I don't believe Mr. West is that stupid.  If he is that stupid, I think he is 
too stupid to be our community ruler and expert researcher for FOCP.

Glenn





-Original Message-
From: Anthony West anthony_w...@earthlink.net
Sent: Jan 24, 2010 7:09 PM
To: univcity@list.purple.com
Subject: [UC] Glenn and the whores of Clark Park

When Glenn writes on UC-list, he isn't doing so as a spokesman for his 
real-estate operation (even when he's peddling his real estate on this 
list!). He speaks as an individual on this list. That's the same for me.

When a member of any neighborhood group writes, like Glenn, as an 
individual on UC-list, they always write as individuals and never as 
representatives of any agency or business. That's because UC-list is an 
unmoderated listserve. If they claim they are representing their group's 
claims ... then that's what they're claiming. But it ain't true without 
the letterhead.

For at least six years now, Glenn has been pelting the readers of 
UC-list with incessant accusations that his demons -- Penn gentrifiers 
(like himself) -- are trying to drive whores out of Clark Park. Anyone 
who cares to rummage around in purple archives will find copious 
concerns about whores by Glenn, and none by anyone else.

Personally, I do not support commercial sex in Clark Park. Friends of 
Clark Park does not support commercial sex in Clark Park.

Glenn, if you don't support commercial sex in Clark Park, just say so -- 
or at least quit reminiscing about its vanished glories on this list. 
There are list archives, after all.  You are UC-list's sole pro-whore 
contributor, aren't you? Most of us never wanted to hear about this 
subject in our neighborhood park, but you kept pelting us with it, year 
after year. Please let it go.

-- Tony West

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Re: [UC] Glenn his whores

[Anthony West]

Glenn,

I'm totally with Kimm on this.  If you have a private complaint 
vis-à-vis me, or Friends of Clark Park, or the Philadelphia Recreation 
Dept., take it off list. This is a misallocation of bandwidth, even on 
UC-list.


-- Tony West


Could I suggest that the two of you take this private?  No one else is 
participating in this pissing match, and I can't imagine that anyone 
is interested in following it.


Kimm

Re: [UC] Gelenn his whores

[Glenn moyer]

Title: Re: [UC] Gelenn & his whores





"Could I suggest that the two of you take this private? No one else is participating in this pissing match, and I can’t imagine that anyone is interested in following it.Kimm"If someone in a position of power in the neighborhood told serious lies about you in public, wouldn't youwishto tell the truth publicly? 

Irecently received what I interpreted asa veiled threat,from one civic association leader. Then,I was bombarded with serious lies about me on this public medium by another one.I think thereare timesthat makingthe truth available should be done, even if no one wishes to follow it. I'm receiving this bullyingbecause Icommented on an important public issue in a letter to the editor. 

Should people be silenced on community issues becausepowerful civic association leaders useoutrageous bullyingtactics?

As I write this,this came. Kimm, do you see what West wanted with a series of outrageous attacks and lies?

Glenn,"I'm totally with Kimm on this. If you have a private complaint vis-à-vis me, or Friends of Clark Park, or the Philadelphia Recreation Dept., take it off list. This is a misallocation of bandwidth, even on UC-list.-- Tony West"I think my public responses have been appropriate.

Sincerely,
Glenn



-Original Message- From: Kimm Tynan Sent: Jan 24, 2010 9:29 PM To: Anthony West , univcity@list.purple.com, Glenn moyer Subject: Re: [UC] Gelenn  his whores Could I suggest that the two of you take this private? No one else is participating in this pissing match, and I can’t imagine that anyone is interested in following it.KimmOn 1/24/10 8:09 PM, "Anthony West" anthony_w...@earthlink.net wrote:
So you continue not to oppose commercial sex in Clark Park, Glenn. Everything you have ever written is recorded in the archives of UC-list. You are the sole pro-whore contributor to this list. You worked hard for many years to earn this distinction.Let me repeat: I'm not against you as a person. I'm not against commercial sex as a person. But if you are still totally for commercial sex in our neighborhood park, I am still totally against it.If you have changed your mind, and will no longer publicly defend prostitution in the park, then I will no longer criticize you for defending it.-- Tony West Neighbors, I've talked with several of you about the various forms of intimidation that you've experienced at the hands of the civic association leaders over the years. Rumors, intimidation at your job, and vandalism are very serious. Both Ad hominem and straw man tactics attack individuals directly instead of supporting one's position. Why do some of these leaders go so pathalogically low? Tony is a special jackass, but the stories and my own experience show me that others go deep into the slime too! Do they believe they are invincible liars? I believe the motivation is a frightening craving for the illusion of power, that pushed Tony with his serious lies. He could get into trouble for such potentially damaging lies. These tactics do not win arguments. Nor are they normal reactions to just having losing arguments or unfair desires for middle class privilege! Would you ever think of telling lies like Tony did about me to win an argument??? Can you imagine the type of harm that Mr. West's lies (straw man technique)could do? People on the list know that West is a jackass, at this point. But read again what West wrote and think of all the possible harm such pathalogical lying could do. (e.g. One of the FOCP board members and a friend of mine has known my girlfriend for years in a professional setting. And people around the world can access our public listserv unlike UC Neighbors.) You are receiving this because you are subscribed to thelist named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, seehttp://www.purple.com/list.html.

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[UC-Announce] International Guitar Night concert Tuesday; workshop Monday

[Daniel Flaumenhaft]

Usually, we just send one announcement per concert, but since this week's is 
earlier than usual, we're sending an extra reminder. 

As always, International Guitar Night includes a workshop/master class as well 
as a concert. (See http://crossroadsconcerts.org/?cat=7 for details.) This will 
take place on Monday the 25th and there is still space available. You can 
reserve a spot by replying to this email - we will indicate on the website 
when/if it fills up.

Here is the original mailing about the concert:

Tuesday, January 26, 2010 at 7:30 pm

INTERNATIONAL GUITAR NIGHT
Lulo Reinhardt, Stephen Bennett, Brian Gore, Itamar Erez
One of the most important showcases for contemporary guitar. - San Francisco 
Chronicle

Workshop on Monday, January 25 - please see 
http://crossroadsconcerts.org/?cat=7 for details.

Crossroads Music 
48th and Baltimore Ave. (in Calvary United Methodist Church)

http://www.crossroadsconcerts.org or 215-729-1028 

Tickets are $20, $10 discount, $30 for supporters, $5 for 12 and under.

International Guitar Night, North America's premier mobile guitar festival, has 
featured the best performing guitar composers from around the world since 1995. 
Each tour, IGN founder Brian Gore invites a new cast of guitar luminaries to 
join him for special evenings of solos, duets and quartets that highlight the 
virtuosity and diversity within the world of acoustic guitar. Since the 
beginning, audiences have cherished the friendly informal ambiance of the 
performances. Participants have relished the chance IGN affords to express 
reverence for one another, and to collaborate rather than compete.

For the January/February 2009 U.S. tour, we welcome: Lulo Reinhardt, a 
spontaneous and passionate guitarist carrying on the tradition of his 
great-uncle, the French gypsy jazz guitarist Django Reinhardt; Stephen Bennett, 
a guitarist to hear whether he’s playing his great-grandfather’s harp guitar, 
slide guitar on a 1930 National Steel, or flatpicking a standard 6-string; and 
Itamar Erez, an Israeli-born and classically-trained musician and composer 
known for his explorations of the connections between jazz and Middle Eastern 
music.

Lulo Reinhardt is a spontaneous and passionate musician. A Sinti gypsy and 
grandnephew of the great French gypsy jazz guitarist Django Reinhardt, he is an 
extremely gifted guitarist who began studying with his father at the age of 
five. At twelve, he played in the Mike Reinhardt Sextett and later co-founded 
the group, Django Reinhardt and the Heartbreakers. In 1991, he founded I 
Gitanos with his father Bawo and cousin Dege, touring throughout Europe. He 
has since played with Toto and Marta Glenn, released several solo CDs, and 
played at the music festival Rock gegen Haß (Rock against Hate), and 
established an outstanding reputation as a composer and guitarist.

Stephen Bennett is a guitarist to hear whether he’s playing his 
great-grandfather’s harp guitar, slide guitar on a 1930 National Steel, or 
flatpicking a standard 6-string. On stage and in the recording studio, his 
diverse musical influences and interests reflect a lifelong love affair with 
the sound of guitar strings. His enduring repertoire for the harp guitar has 
sparked international interest in the unique double-neck instrument, and keeps 
Stephen in demand for concerts and clinics worldwide, while his skills on the 
6-string have attracted attention since he won first-place at the 1987 National 
Flatpicking Championships in Winfield, Kansas. Stephen has released fifteen 
albums and performed throughout the United States and Europe, as well as in 
Canada, Australia and Japan.

Brian Gore is a melodic fingerstyle guitarist, author, and impresario from San 
Francisco. He founded International Guitar Night in the 1990’s as a cultural 
haven for the world’s finest guitarists to share their original ideas in a 
public setting, and has overseen International Guitar Night’s expansion, as a 
performer and producer, throughout the U.S., Canada, and the United Kingdom.

Itamar Erez is a classically trained musician and composer whose works have 
been performed by soloists, ensembles and orchestras in North America, Europe 
and the Middle East. After studying classical music in Israel, Germany, and the 
UK, heHe formed the Adama Ensemble with reed player Tony Nickels, bassist 
Laurence Mollerup, and Stefan Cihelka on tabla to explore the connections 
between jazz and Middle Eastern music and it is these earthy, ethereal melodies 
that form the backbone of his solo guitar work. A longtime resident of 
Vancouver BC, Itamar now has returned to his native Israel while performing 
with groups around the world. Since October 2007, Itamar has been part of Omar 
Faruk Tekbilek’s group and is touring with this well-known world music maestro 
all over the world. Recent shows included London’s Barbican Hall (UK), The 
Sydney Opera (Australia), as well as shows in Moscow  Seville.

UPCOMING EVENTS

Saturday,