RE: Digital Pomegranate
+1 How is this not above the fold? Hang in there brother... Were praying for you, your family, friends and country. 1915... Tragedy 1.5 mil Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark Wieder via use-livecode Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 11:29 AM To: William Prothero via use-livecode Cc: Mark Wieder Subject: Re: Digital Pomegranate On 04/23/2018 08:12 AM, William Prothero via use-livecode wrote: > I see from the “Radio Free Europe” news that Sarikisian resigned. Great news! > Congratulations! And I think equally important is that Sarkisian acknowledged that his reason for resigning that the movement in the street is against him, not that he was "going to spend more time with his family". This is indeed great news. Next step, get Turkey to apologize for 1915. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Getting Orientation Enforced on Phone
BR,
I've tried everything. It's gets even more bizarre. The last time I tested
this is what I got:
iOS: LC respects the device's orientation lock.
Android: LC does NOT respect the device's orientation lock.
iOS: If the LC app is in portrait, iPhone/iPod will change orientation
without rotating the physical device if mobileSetAllowedOrientations set to
only landscape(like Netflix) and lock it there. On iPad LC will not force
the rotation and will not lock it if you rotates the device.
Android: LC will not force the rotation but will lock it if you rotate the
device.
To fix this right we need:
1) mobileSetAllowedOrientations should be just that. This should be a end
user rotation permissions.
2) Add new==> mobileSetOrientation (pOrientation,
pRespectDeviceOrientationLock {true|false})
That's it. Until LC does this, we'll have a mishmash of behaviors and wrong
card rendering. Playing with all sorts of waits is just madness.
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 10:40 PM
To: How LiveCode
Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Subject: Getting Orientation Enforced on Phone
# using this method to change stack
go cardOrStackObject # e.g go "gems" (or this string) go card 3 of
"gems"
wait 100 milliseconds with messages
close stack oStackName
wait 100 milliseconds with messages
# don't try to go in same window method
( we used "set the fullscreenmode of this stack to "showAll" in all stacks)
Now, we can get orientation "enforced" on iOS going one way -- portrait to
landscape --
but not coming back for -- landscape to portrait --
Users sees the bottom on the portrait, until right they phone upright)
Android is worse, the landscape stack is rendering horizontally on a
portrait screen until they rotate the phone.
and vice versa
I really need to phone to "enforce" , regardless of phone is held.
You can't have a game/map (landscape) open "miniaturized" by portrait
mobileSetAllowedOrientations "landscape left,landscape right"
OR
mobileSetAllowedOrientations "landscape left,landscape right"
the dictionary says
"the setting take affect the next time an orientation change is applied"
But it is enforced to iOS going for portrait to landscape. Why not to other
way?
And either way on Android
Has anyone solved this problem.
BR
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RE: Android Can't Find Path to Web folder
BR,
I do it and use the same path for both mobile platforms. The only thing I
can think of is that I move the html folder tree to a folder in "the
documents folder". I also zip it up for brevity in the package. When the app
starts the first time(or app update) I unzip it to the documents folder. I
delete the tree before unzipping for an app update. If you need the LCS of
the un-zipper or folder tree deleter let me know.
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 11:08 PM
To: How LiveCode
Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami
Subject: Android Can't Find Path to Web folder
I give up! What is the magic that gets the browser widget on Android to see
a local html file
(it always works in iOS)
given the following directory layout
myApp.livecode # the standalone is built from this
/module
lexicon.livecode # with nothing but a browser widget which
points too:
/web
index.html
if have tried all manner of:
hard coded:
set the itemdel to "/"
get item 1 to -2 of the effective filename of this stack
put it & "/web/index.html" into tURL
set the URL of widget "Browser" to ("file://" & tURL)
# this works on iOS but not on Android
# Various incarnations of
if isMobile() then
# this work on iOS
# but not on Android
put specialFolderPath("engine") into tRoot
set the URL of widget "Browser" to ( "file://" &tRoot &
"/modules/lexicon/web/index.html")
else
# works on desktop
put specialFolderPath("resources") into tRoot
set the URL of widget "Browser" to ( "file://" &tRoot &
"/web/index.html") end if
??
BR
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RE: Inclusions for database access?
I take it you included MySQL. Maybe Andre's library need some other inclusion
like XML or json?
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of
William Prothero via use-livecode
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 7:57 PM
To: Use-livecode Use-livecode
Cc: William Prothero
Subject: Inclusions for database access?
Folks:
I’m accessing a mysql database using Andre Garza’s software, and it works
perfectly in the IDE. (LC9.0.0, Mac OSX 10.13.3).
However, when I build a standalone, the call just seems to hang and nothing is
returned.
I am assuming that I’m making some mistake with inclusions? What might I be
doing wrong that is triggered in the standalone, but not the IDE? I’ve included
everything in the inclusions list that seems related to internet actions.
Any suggestions would much appreciated.
Thanks,
Bill
I don’t expect that the code needs debugging, as it works fine, but just to
make sure it’s clear what I’m doing, my code is:
-
function getAppSettings
put "In getAppSettings"&cr after fld "status"
put
"http://earthexplorer.earthlearningsolutions.org/scgi-bin/wpserver.php"; into
tConfigA["url"]
put "ADBDDFCFBDBBDDCCFFACGHDEEDCC" into tConfigA["encryption_key"]
// Encryption Key
dbSetDefaultConnectionConfiguration tConfigA
put "Earth Explorer D3" into tAppName
dbWhere "appName", tAppName
put dbGet("app_settings") into pDataA
if pDataA["data"] = "" then
return "DbError: -- "&cr&pDataA&cr
exit getAppSettings
end if
return pDataA["data"]
end getAppSettings
--
William A. Prothero
http://earthlearningsolutions.org
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Widget User Defined Properties
I created a property called backgroundColor in a widget on the Colors pane figuring that it would be nice to have the LCS editor color it. Opened up the property inspector of the widget and it's there. The first time I change the property via script the property inspector the Colors pane gets completely whacked out. The other panes are OK. I changed the name of the property to backgroundColorUp and everything was OK. Is there a limitation that user defined widget properties can't be the name of any existing "built in" LCS recognized property? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [ANN] Release 9.0.0
I download all 3 platforms and release notes at the same time today and it took about 10 minutes on a 15x2 internet service. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 12:57 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Peter Bogdanoff Subject: Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 Yesterday it took me 3-4 hours to download LC 9. I’m in California. Peter Bogdanoff ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Android Native Button
Yes, I enumerated the font names on the device and used the "Droid Serif" font. QCC report 21141 submitted. Thanks Brian Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: Brian Milby [mailto:br...@milby7.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 12:51 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Ralph DiMola Subject: Re: Android Native Button Looking at the code for the android field, it is probably a bug. In that code the type is optional pointer and a check is done that a pointer was returned. That check is not done for the button. Are you sure the font being specified is valid? I have not done anything android, so this is just a quick read of the LCB code. On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 11:14 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: I'm receiving the error below. The button does render. I can't change the textsize? Have I missed something or should I submit a QCC bug report? Thanks occurred on line:0 0,Value is not of correct type for assignment to variable - expected type for assigning to a variable tTypefacePtr in com.livecode.widget.native.android.button.SetTypeface Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Android Native Button
Thanks Ali, I submitted bug https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21141 Also in the QCC is that I can't change the font of text size. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ali Lloyd via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:17 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Ali Lloyd Subject: Re: Android Native Button Ah yes, we need to apply this https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6441/files to the android button as well On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 5:51 AM Brian Milby via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Looking at the code for the android field, it is probably a bug. In > that code the type is optional pointer and a check is done that a > pointer was returned. That check is not done for the button. Are you > sure the font being specified is valid? > > I have not done anything android, so this is just a quick read of the > LCB code. > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 11:14 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I'm receiving the error below. The button does render. I can't > > change the textsize? Have I missed something or should I submit a QCC bug report? > > > > Thanks > > > > occurred on line:0 > > 0,Value is not of correct type for assignment to variable - expected > > type for assigning to a variable tTypefacePtr > > in com.livecode.widget.native.android.button.SetTypeface > > > > > > Ralph DiMola > > IT Director > > Evergreen Information Services > > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Android Native Button
I'm receiving the error below. The button does render. I can't change the textsize? Have I missed something or should I submit a QCC bug report? Thanks occurred on line:0 0,Value is not of correct type for assignment to variable - expected type for assigning to a variable tTypefacePtr in com.livecode.widget.native.android.button.SetTypeface Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Browser Widget Document Download
Hey BR, The link is going to a content management system(Adobe I think) http://www.gasb.org/cs/ContentServer?c=Document_C&cid=1176169676825&d=&pagen ame=GASB%2FDocument_C%2FDocumentPage The file name is buried in the html but not the path. It's in an iFrame but it gets rendered by some unknown SW on iOS. On Android it just start silently start downloading while displaying a white page. What I would like to do is control where the PDF is being downloaded to and force a download on iOS. I'm guessing(with great disappointment) that this would require a change to the browser widget. Thanks... Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 1:00 PM To: Ralph DiMola via use-livecode Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami Subject: Re: Browser Widget Document Download When I set the widget to the url the PDF displays. When I put the url into a var "put url (tURL) into MyVar" I see some html/javascript in MyVar but no PDF. What I would like to do is download the PDF on both mobile platforms. Is this even possible with LC? BR: can you send the URL? Typically, (probably you know this already, but FWIW) this shows a PDF in a iFrame, some javascript "widget" . If you how source in the browser, (with PDF open) can you can find a "direct" url for the PDF? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Intel CPU for Android Devices
I have an old Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 the has an Intel Atom processor and it runs LC 8.1.9/9.0(rc)1 apps. The apps are a bit slow but do run(I wonder if there's emulating going on?). I have not installed from the store. I side-load using adb. Is the app visible on the PlayStore to the devices? If so does it download/install? If it installs does it even start running? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Todd Fabacher via use-livecode Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 10:35 AM To: Use-livecode Use-livecode Cc: Todd Fabacher Subject: Intel CPU for Android Devices I am running into a problem where the Android device uses Intel CPU and NOT Arm. It does not rum from the store on the device. Has anyone installed and run a LiveCode Android App on an Intel device. I have an 11am meeting on Monday, so any answer on the holiday weekend would be much appreciated. Thanks, Todd ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Browser Widget Document Download
I have a url(that does not directly reference a file) that on iOS displays a PDF in the iOS native PDF viewer and on Android Downloads the PDF as Android has no native PDF viewer. I would like to download the PDF at all times. Testing in the IDE... When I set the widget to the url the PDF displays. When I put the url into a var "put url (tURL) into MyVar" I see some html/javascript in MyVar but no PDF. What I would like to do is download the PDF on both mobile platforms. Is this even possible with LC? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Apple iOS App Rejection because Location Usage String is too Generic
Panos / Ludovic, Thanks! Approved... Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 2:38 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: panagiotis merakos Subject: Re: Apple iOS App Rejection because Location Usage String is too Generic Hi Ralph, These are set while building the standalone. See comment 11 here https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19780 for a workaround. Best, Panos -- On Fri, Mar 23, 2018 at 11:50 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > These keys aren't in the settings.plist file. > NSLocationUsageDescription > NSLocationWhenInUseUsageDescription > > Does anyone know where they are? I need to change them and re-submit > the app. > > Thanks > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Apple iOS App Rejection because Location Usage String is too Generic
These keys aren't in the settings.plist file. NSLocationUsageDescription NSLocationWhenInUseUsageDescription Does anyone know where they are? I need to change them and re-submit the app. Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Smooth transition between stacks
My understanding is that the first stack has the engine, inclusions and needs to be in memory. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of William Prothero via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 6:47 PM To: Use-livecode Use-livecode Cc: William Prothero Subject: Re: Smooth transition between stacks Folks: I got it to remove the calling stack and have a clean transition. However, for a splash stack configuration with all of the stacks that do the main app functions, should I even try to delete the splash stack? Is it needed to run the application? Best, Bill > On Mar 20, 2018, at 3:39 PM, William Prothero via use-livecode > wrote: > > Folks: > This seems like it should be very easy, but I’m struggling. > > I want, simply, to transition between stacks in a visually nice and clean > way. I’m testing this out in the IDE, in livecode version 9.0.0 (Rc1) and I’m > on Mac OS 10.13.3. I think I have a reasonable transition, but I want to > close and remove the splash stack from memory. I can’t get it to do this. > However, now I’m thinking that the splash stack will contain all of the code, > and shouldn’t be purged. The project will have stacks for individual > functions in the “Resources” folder. > > How should I transition from one stack to another, and get the calling stack > to leave memory when it’s launched the destination stack? My code won’t do it. > > The splash stack has code like: > > on mouseUp > > put the short name of this stack into splashStackName > > put splashStackName into appParams["splashStackName"] > > put the filename of this stack into fName > > set the itemdelimiter to "/" > > delete the last item of fName > > put "AppSetup-D3.livecode" into appSetupStackFileName > > put "AppSetup-D3" into appSetupStackName > > put appSetupStackName into appParams["appSetupStackName"] > > put fName&"/"&appSetupStackFileName into stTarget > > wait for 0 seconds with messages > > go invisible to stack stTarget > > send "doStackSetup "&splashStackName to stack appSetupStackName > > end mouseUp > > > ——The destination stack has this handler to initialize it. > on doStackSetup originStackName > > put appParams["appSetupStackName"] into thisStack > > set the rect of stack thisStack to the rect of stack originStackName > > wait for 0 seconds with messages > > show stack thisStack > > send "doCloseThisStack "&stackName to me in 1 second > > set the lockscreen to false > > end doStackSetup > > > on doCloseThisStack > > breakpoint > > put "Start Earth Explorer" into stackName > > set the destroyStack of stack stackName to true > > close stack stackName > > end doCloseThisStack > > > > In the destination stack named appSetupStackName, I run code that accesses a > database for configuration parameters. I don’t want the user to be required > to click a button to initiate this process. I start it on an opencard handler. > > I’ve fiddled with this way more time than I should have to. Does anyone have > a nicely visual way of seamlessly going to another stack without screen > flashing, windows jumping around, etc. I want the destination stack to just > open in the same rect as the source stack. > > I know that the opencard handler runs before the above mouseup code finishes. > > Thanks for any advice. > Bill > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: App rejected because of camera permission modal alert!
No problem William. Congrats! I filed a QCC report on this http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21083 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: William de Smet [mailto:williamdes...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 5:35 AM To: Ralph DiMola Subject: Re: App rejected because of camera permission modal alert! Thanks Ralph! This worked. Apple approved my app is now available in the App Store: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fotopuzzel-voor-ipad/id1358293879?l=nl greetings, William 2018-03-13 22:07 GMT+01:00 Ralph DiMola : Hey William, OK, I see the problem. This will require you to modify the plist files in the LiveCode app bundle. 1) Go to the Applications folder 2) Right click on the LC app version you are using and select "Show Package Contents" 3) Navigate to the "Tools/Runtime/iOS" folder 4) Right click on all the device/simulator folders one at a time and select "Get Info" 5) At the bottom click on the "Read only" to the right of your account name and select "Read & Write" 6) Repeat 5 for all device/simulator folders 7) In each of the device/simulator folders edit the setting.plist file. 8) To edit... right click the setting.plist file and select "Open With" and then "Other..." and select "TextEdit.app". 9) You will get a warning that the file is locked. Choose the Unlock option. 10) Change the for the key to be more specific to your application. You might be able to make this generic enough for all your applications. If not then you will have to change this for each app before submitting it for review. 11) repeat 8-10 for setting.plist in each of the device/simulator folders. 12) Fire up LC and make an iOS app and submit it. I would suggest you submit a QCC Bug Report. This looks like it could be a problem for any app that uses the camera. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: William de Smet [mailto:williamdes...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 4:41 PM To: rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Subject: Re: App rejected because of camera permission modal alert! Hi Ralph, Yes I did. It is just a standard modal alert that shows. Apple says: We noticed that your app requests the user’s consent to access their camera but does not clarify the use of this feature in the permission modal alert. https://developer.apple.com/library/content/qa/qa1937/_index.html groeten, William 2018-03-13 21:36 GMT+01:00 Ralph DiMola : William, Did you tic the various Camera options(as needed) to "Required" in the iOS standalone setting? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of William de Smet via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 4:22 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: William de Smet Subject: App rejected because of camera permission modal alert! Hi there, My new app 'FotoPuzzel' is rejected by Apple because the app needs camera permission. I did not clarify the use of this feature in the modal alert? How do I change this? Can I change this? I just use MobilePickPhoto "camera" The standard modal alert says: FotoPuzzel would like to access the camera This application requires access to the device's camera. Apple's response: - We noticed that your app requests the user’s consent to access their camera but does not clarify the use of this feature in the permission modal alert. Please see attached screenshots for details. Next Steps To resolve this issue, please revise the permission modal alert to specify why the app is requesting access to the user's camera. Any advice on this? LC 8.1.8 greetings, William ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Strange problem with tsNet external on Windows
Graham, Also check tsNet, it's way down at the bottom of the inclusions pane. Or you can disable tsNet and use only libURL. Here are a couple of handlers to find out if is tsNet is enabled. Below that is how to explicitly enable/disable tsNet. function GetNetworkType local tLibUrlDriver try put the behavior of stack"revLibUrl" into tLibUrlDriver end try if tLibUrlDriver is empty then return "Sockets" else return "tsNet" end if end GetNetworkType command NetworkType if GetNetworkType() = "Sockets" then answer"tsNet is disabled" else answer "tsNet in use"&cr&"Version==>"& tsNetVersion() end if end NetworkType To unload: dispatch "revUnloadLibrary" to stack "tsNetLibUrl" To load again: dispatch "revLoadLibrary" to stack "tsNetLibUrl" Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Graham Samuel via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:47 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Graham Samuel Subject: Strange problem with tsNet external on Windows I have a LiveCode standalone running as PC app (a .exe file, plus some other files which are needed when it runs). If I simply run the original standalone on Windows 7 (OK, running under Parallels on a Mac), it all just works. If I create an installer for the program and its dependent files using Inno Setup, the whole thing appears to run smoothly, but when I run the installed version of the app (which is exactly the same size as the original standalone, as expected), I get an error from the LC engine “Initialization Error: Failed to load external: tsNet”. I suppose I have somehow failed to include tsNet, but it was specifically included in the standalone (as “internet”) and anyway the original standalone works. Should I somehow be giving my installed app a path to the LC externals? I’m confused. Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: OT: Develop yourself?
I thought it was a way not to send the film to the lab. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:45 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Bob Sneidar Subject: Re: OT: Develop yourself? I'm unsettled that it might involve all three. Bob S > On Mar 14, 2018, at 11:59 , David V Glasgow via use-livecode > wrote: > > I’ve just examined the premium pack of LiveCode goodies for me (and you) to > enjoy. Am I the only one unsettled by the feeling that “Develop yourself” on > merchandise sounds like it might involve steroids, exercise, or a vacuum pump? > > > Best Wishes, > David Glasgow ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: iOS cached Screen Flashes after Splash Image
Hey Colin, Hope your well It's still open in the background. It's not exiting on suspend. When the app is still open in the background there is no problems switching between apps. When the user swipes it off after the double press of the home button and then re-opens the app is when this cached page is flashed in between the splash page and the first card. I would think that the thumbnail you see after the double press of the home button would be the image that flashes. In many cases it is but not all, maybe 50-50 between the thumbnail and the some random card from the past. I was looking for an app bug until the user said that one of the flashed images had an answer dialog opened. If you reinstall the app it still happens. If you uninstall/reinstall the app it still happens. If you uninstall the app then re-boot the device and then reinstall it does not happen the first launch. Then if you swipe the app off and then reopen it's sometimes OK the first few launches then after 3 or so launches it's back other times it starts after the first time you swipe it off. The happens on Pandora and Google maps also on my iPad mini but they are fine on my old iPad 2. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Colin Holgate via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 1:28 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Colin Holgate Subject: Re: iOS cached Screen Flashes after Splash Image I have seen something like you’re describing with other apps, not LiveCode ones. iOS 11 has a new way of doing app switching, and that uses a different snapshot of the apps. Are you letting your app quit on suspend, or is it still open in the background? I can imagine cases where someone switches apps and will get the last app switching image iOS 11 kept. That is bound to be different if the app quit on suspend. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: iOS cached Screen Flashes after Splash Image
It's interesting that the user never had this problem until last week even on apps that have not changed. I wonder if the Apple speed throttling has anything to do with it. The user loaded some app that shows if throttling is in effect and his speed is now reduced by .1 mhz. I wonder if this became a problem on older devices since Apple introduced as "App Thinning/Slicing." Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Bell via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:12 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: and...@midwestcoastmedia.com Subject: Re: iOS cached Screen Flashes after Splash Image I don't have a clear answer for this, but just an observation: iPhone 5 was the last of the Apple 32bit hardware devices. That makes me think this is an OS issue more than an LC issue. --Andrew Bell > I'm getting a very strange complaint from one user who has an older > iPhone 5 running iOS 11.2. When the app opens it briefly flashes the > last screen that was up before the app was closed. This happens in > between the splash page and the app's first card. The page flashed > page sometimes even has an "answer" dialog from a previous session! > I can't replicate it on any of my 3 iOS devices. I also noticed that > Pandora and Google Maps does the same thing on my iPad Mini but on my > iPad or iPod. The user has two other non-LC apps that are doing the > cached flashing. All of the user's other apps except for LC apps and > two others don't exhibit the flashing behavior. I'm wondering if the > Apple throttle-back for older batteries is exposing: a problem with > LC(and other apps), an iOS bug or their device need a factory reset. > The last thing I want to do is have the user factory reset their > iPhone and have the same thing happen. Could this be an Apple bug for > testers that side load many versions of apps? This user has > side-loaded many versions to test. Then I had download a store version > of the app that never did it before and it's now happening but never > did before. I find it very strange that apps that never did this are > now acting strangely. I find very little in web searches on this > subject. The few hits I've seen were mainly Safari a couple of years > ago and a one or two non native Xcode "app building" platforms. > > Has anyone else ever seen this? > Thanks > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: App rejected because of camera permission modal alert!
Hey William, OK, I see the problem. This will require you to modify the plist files in the LiveCode app bundle. 1) Go to the Applications folder 2) Right click on the LC app version you are using and select "Show Package Contents" 3) Navigate to the "Tools/Runtime/iOS" folder 4) Right click on all the device/simulator folders one at a time and select "Get Info" 5) At the bottom click on the "Read only" to the right of your account name and select "Read & Write" 6) Repeat 5 for all device/simulator folders 7) In each of the device/simulator folders edit the setting.plist file. 8) To edit... right click the setting.plist file and select "Open With" and then "Other..." and select "TextEdit.app". 9) You will get a warning that the file is locked. Choose the Unlock option. 10) Change the for the key to be more specific to your application. You might be able to make this generic enough for all your applications. If not then you will have to change this for each app before submitting it for review. 11) repeat 8-10 for setting.plist in each of the device/simulator folders. 12) Fire up LC and make an iOS app and submit it. I would suggest you submit a QCC Bug Report. This looks like it could be a problem for any app that uses the camera. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: William de Smet [mailto:williamdes...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 4:41 PM To: rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Subject: Re: App rejected because of camera permission modal alert! Hi Ralph, Yes I did. It is just a standard modal alert that shows. Apple says: We noticed that your app requests the user’s consent to access their camera but does not clarify the use of this feature in the permission modal alert. https://developer.apple.com/library/content/qa/qa1937/_index.html groeten, William 2018-03-13 21:36 GMT+01:00 Ralph DiMola : William, Did you tic the various Camera options(as needed) to "Required" in the iOS standalone setting? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of William de Smet via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 4:22 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: William de Smet Subject: App rejected because of camera permission modal alert! Hi there, My new app 'FotoPuzzel' is rejected by Apple because the app needs camera permission. I did not clarify the use of this feature in the modal alert? How do I change this? Can I change this? I just use MobilePickPhoto "camera" The standard modal alert says: FotoPuzzel would like to access the camera This application requires access to the device's camera. Apple's response: - We noticed that your app requests the user’s consent to access their camera but does not clarify the use of this feature in the permission modal alert. Please see attached screenshots for details. Next Steps To resolve this issue, please revise the permission modal alert to specify why the app is requesting access to the user's camera. Any advice on this? LC 8.1.8 greetings, William ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: App rejected because of camera permission modal alert!
William, Did you tic the various Camera options(as needed) to "Required" in the iOS standalone setting? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of William de Smet via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 4:22 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: William de Smet Subject: App rejected because of camera permission modal alert! Hi there, My new app 'FotoPuzzel' is rejected by Apple because the app needs camera permission. I did not clarify the use of this feature in the modal alert? How do I change this? Can I change this? I just use MobilePickPhoto "camera" The standard modal alert says: FotoPuzzel would like to access the camera This application requires access to the device's camera. Apple's response: - We noticed that your app requests the user’s consent to access their camera but does not clarify the use of this feature in the permission modal alert. Please see attached screenshots for details. Next Steps To resolve this issue, please revise the permission modal alert to specify why the app is requesting access to the user's camera. Any advice on this? LC 8.1.8 greetings, William ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: iOS cached Screen Flashes after Splash Image
Thank Brian, No, It’s when the app starts again after being closed. You get the splash page, the cached page for .1 to 1 second and then the first card of the app is displayed. It’s particularly noticeable because our fist card is the same as the splash screen so you get splash/cached/splash. I’m getting a lot of noise because the vast majority of other apps don’t exhibit this behavior. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: Brian Milby [mailto:br...@milby7.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:59 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Ralph DiMola Subject: Re: iOS cached Screen Flashes after Splash Image Sounds like an OS thing. When you double tap the home, is that the screen that flashes? I think the OS caches the last screen for switching and throws that up before the splash. Apps that resume will not notice. The faster the device, the less likely you are to see it. At least that is my non-educated guess :) On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 11:55 AM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: I'm getting a very strange complaint from one user who has an older iPhone 5 running iOS 11.2. When the app opens it briefly flashes the last screen that was up before the app was closed. This happens in between the splash page and the app's first card. The page flashed page sometimes even has an "answer" dialog from a previous session! I can't replicate it on any of my 3 iOS devices. I also noticed that Pandora and Google Maps does the same thing on my iPad Mini but on my iPad or iPod. The user has two other non-LC apps that are doing the cached flashing. All of the user's other apps except for LC apps and two others don't exhibit the flashing behavior. I'm wondering if the Apple throttle-back for older batteries is exposing: a problem with LC(and other apps), an iOS bug or their device need a factory reset. The last thing I want to do is have the user factory reset their iPhone and have the same thing happen. Could this be an Apple bug for testers that side load many versions of apps? This user has side-loaded many versions to test. Then I had download a store version of the app that never did it before and it's now happening but never did before. I find it very strange that apps that never did this are now acting strangely. I find very little in web searches on this subject. The few hits I've seen were mainly Safari a couple of years ago and a one or two non native Xcode "app building" platforms. Has anyone else ever seen this? Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
iOS cached Screen Flashes after Splash Image
I'm getting a very strange complaint from one user who has an older iPhone 5 running iOS 11.2. When the app opens it briefly flashes the last screen that was up before the app was closed. This happens in between the splash page and the app's first card. The page flashed page sometimes even has an "answer" dialog from a previous session! I can't replicate it on any of my 3 iOS devices. I also noticed that Pandora and Google Maps does the same thing on my iPad Mini but on my iPad or iPod. The user has two other non-LC apps that are doing the cached flashing. All of the user's other apps except for LC apps and two others don't exhibit the flashing behavior. I'm wondering if the Apple throttle-back for older batteries is exposing: a problem with LC(and other apps), an iOS bug or their device need a factory reset. The last thing I want to do is have the user factory reset their iPhone and have the same thing happen. Could this be an Apple bug for testers that side load many versions of apps? This user has side-loaded many versions to test. Then I had download a store version of the app that never did it before and it's now happening but never did before. I find it very strange that apps that never did this are now acting strangely. I find very little in web searches on this subject. The few hits I've seen were mainly Safari a couple of years ago and a one or two non native Xcode "app building" platforms. Has anyone else ever seen this? Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Navigation widget
Setting it to zero was what I was what I tried it and it did nothing. What I was thinking of is a splash page with the navigation widget all gray and then you select an option and navigate to that page. After that one item would always be hilited. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: Brian Milby [mailto:br...@milby7.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 4:59 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Ralph DiMola Subject: Re: Navigation widget Although that could be an interesting thing to change on Thursday in my LCG talk (allow a selection of “0”). Not sure if it would get accepted, but would make a good demo of the process. On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 3:37 PM Brian Milby wrote: Navigation Bar should always have exactly one icon selected. On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 3:26 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: I can't seem to figure out how to reset the hilited option back to unhilited. None of the traditional button properties seem to work. I can change the hilited option but not clear it. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Navigation widget
I can't seem to figure out how to reset the hilited option back to unhilited. None of the traditional button properties seem to work. I can change the hilited option but not clear it. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Standalone compile problem including more than two stack files to the mainstack
And then Jacque fires up her time machine and saves us all! Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 10:58 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Bob Sneidar Subject: Re: Standalone compile problem including more than two stack files to the mainstack I suppose that's fine, but I usually run into the bathroom, where there is no hope of escape, then cower in the bathtub, ensuring there's plenty of water in it, and an electric blow dryer handy on the counter. Bob S > On Mar 9, 2018, at 07:48 , Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: > > I usually panic and run into the barn with all the chain saws hanging > from the ceiling to hide. > > Ralph DiMola ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Standalone compile problem including more than two stack files to the mainstack
I usually panic and run into the barn with all the chain saws hanging from the ceiling to hide. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 10:40 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Bob Sneidar Subject: Re: Standalone compile problem including more than two stack files to the mainstack > On Mar 8, 2018, at 13:45 , dunbarx via use-livecode wrote: > > Jacque usually has a way out. If she were in a horror film, she'd be the one who survives. ;-) Bob S ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Forcing a device update
J,
The devices refresh automatically on both my Win 10(Android) and OS X
10.12.6 Xcode 9.2 (iOS and Android). I'm using 8.1.9 GM. I tested by
plugging devices in/out/in.
You could try this in the message box for Android. It's untested. (found it
by scratching in the IDE).
dispatch "androidDevicesChanged" to stack ("revDeployLibraryAndroid")
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 7:04 PM
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Cc: J. Landman Gay
Subject: Forcing a device update
Is there a way to force the IDE to look for attached mobile devices without
restarting LiveCode?
Typically I have half a dozen scripts open and I'm doing multiple test
builds to a cabled phone. I edit some scripts and during that time the phone
goes into low-power mode (not asleep or locked.) When I tap it to show the
launcher again, LC has lost the device and I have to restart LC to make it
scan again.
I can use Terminal to rescan if necessary, but even after it sees the phone,
LC still doesn't.
I need a message box command to make LC "see" the device again.
Restarting loses all my open script windows and I have to relaunch the stack
and set everything up again.
--
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HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
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RE: Slide puzzle question
I don't know about the 9 puzzle but I suspect it's like the 15 puzzle. The 15 puzzle and Rubics Cube have parity. If the 15 is out of parity it can never be solved. The same for Rubics Cube, if you say switch 2 edge pieces or rotate 1 corner piece it's not solvable. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of William de Smet via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 9:41 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: William de Smet Subject: Slide puzzle question Hi there, I am making a 9 piece slide puzzle. How many pieces should be in the right place at start to solve the puzzle? greetings, William ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Internet checking?
If the FQDN's IP is cached you will get timeouts when there is no network connection. A DNS cache entry is valid until TTL is exceeded. If the DNS cache entry is stale or not cached then you will get "unknown host" when there is no network connection. I check the network availability in my mobile apps by: 1) Set the network timeout to 2 seconds. 2) Send an https request to a webpage that calls an LC server script. 3) If there is a network connection then script returns turns an LC array with the "Status" key value of "OK". I set the app to "Network Available". 4) If there is a timeout I set the app to "Network Not Available". 5) Set the network timeout back to the previous value. I don't check the tsNet error to find out why the "ping" failed. I have a timer set to check if the network is up periodically. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 3:02 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Bob Sneidar Subject: Re: Internet checking? Yes, trying to figure out WHY the connection failed is trickier. I think you are right that Safari pings an IP (to exclude DNS problems) and then looks at the response. A ping that has no route will report something like Destination Unreachable as opposed to timeout. On my Apple terminal, if I ping a bogus DNS name, I get cannot resolve : unknown host. If I ping a bogus IP, I get a timeout. If I disable all network adapters I get a timeout AND sendto: No route to host. Windows probably does something similar. I suppose you could simply ping through a shell and then peruse the responses. Bob S > On Mar 2, 2018, at 10:09 , Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > Bob of course you’re right - in my particular case, anyway, I just want to > know if I can access me chosen server or not. > > But one could certainly imagine programs that would want to know if they were > wasting their time offering their users a broader internet access - I mean > any program that allows the user to specify addresses (like a browser does) > would want more of an “is there or isn’t there?” approach. On my Mac, the > Apple browser Safari can announce “you are not connected to the internet”. > Maybe it just pings a trusted source and waits for a reasonable time for the > reaction. > > Anyway what I noticed in my little experiment was that the reaction of the > script when the internet wasn’t available was very rapid (certainly less than > half a second), which means that just trying to get the file and then looking > for an error response would probably be OK for a human user, since there is > no prolonged wait. > > As you see, I am reluctant to do anything that’s at all complicated! > > Graham ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: How to include files in an iOS-App?
Martin,
1) Put the text file into the "Copy Files" pane of the standalone settings
2) When app start check is there is a copy in your "the documents
folder/somepath" folder. If not then copy it from "the engine folder" to "the
documents folder/somepath" folder.
3) Your app will access the file in the " the documents folder/somepath" folder
and read/write at will.
"The engine folder" is where you find the files in the Copy Files pane and is
read-only.
"The documents folder" is read/write.
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
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martin meili via use-livecode
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Subject: How to include files in an iOS-App?
How can I include e.g. a textfile (let's say „MyText.txt“), when building the
standalone application for iOS for the use from within the app (reading
from/writing to)?
I get my apps running on my iPad, I can read and write files, and - if there
is no „TheFiles“-folder - I can create such a folder within the
„documents-folder" by the help of the special-folderpath-function.
But how can I include such a folder („TheFiles“{holding already existing
different xy.txt files}) in my iOS-application (inside the documents-folder)
when building the standalone, so that I can access these textfiles from within
my iOS-Applcation?
Many thanks for you advising me.
Martin
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RE: AcceleraterRendering - when to turn off
S, #1 After the Android acceleratedRendering crash was fixed I have been leaving it on at all times and have not had any problems. I thought that only one stack at a time on mobile so I never close them. #2. I delete all mobile controls on close card. I delete mobile scrollers only on resizestack. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 5:25 PM To: How LiveCode Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami Subject: AcceleraterRendering - when to turn off I have a heck a time with our new app on android One stack works fine. But we going one stack to another, (not in iOS) is a problem. Seems to be subtle issues with one the follow (although on the surface they seem to be same) 1) it is better to set the acceleratedRendering of this stack to false -- on closeCard -- on closeStack -- on library stack, used to close one stack and one open another Go window did not work, as it never gets the handler that set stack to landscape. so it back to go cardOrStackObject # e.g go "gems" (or this string) go card 3 of "gems" wait 100 milliseconds with messages close stack oStackName wait 100 milliseconds with messages it "wait" is android issue 2) The issue is the same with mobile controls. When is a safe delete them? -- on closeCard -- on closeStack -- on library stack, used to close one stack and one open another BR ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed
K, That's a amusing observation of font names. If a MS Word doc is using the Adobe Helvetica and the next user only has a MonoType Helvetica, then Word will substitute the MonoType font without warning. Then if the next user has neither font, Word will substitute a "Helvetica like" font, again without warning. A PDF created from this document will be problematic when pre-flighted.. I'm planning to use LC to produce "print ready" PDFs. +100 to the mother ship for removing LiveCode's phony font styling . Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 From: Keith Martin [mailto:thatke...@mac.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 12:04 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Ralph DiMola Subject: Re: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed On 20 Feb 2018, at 16:34, Ralph DiMola wrote: We had many font issues over the years and I figured that the industry would get it together. Given that the font world calls eighteenth century font designs 'Modern' and early/mid 19th century sans-serifs 'Grotesque', I wouldn't hold my breath... ;) k _ Keith Martin Senior Lecturer, LCC (University of the Arts London) _ ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed
Keith +1 MS Word is the worst when it comes to this. I once spent 1/2 day trying to figure out why a PDFed Word file had font issues. I turns out that this Word doc was being passed around and not all users had all the fonts or faces. So Word changed the text using an unavailable font face by "bold"ing the plain face by fattening up the glyphs. So the kerning changed and when the doc was PDFed Acrobat could not figure out what was going on with the fonts and did not embed the proper fonts. The PDF would not pass pre-flight. The only solution was to re-style the affect text with the proper face. (funny note: After fixing the file about 3 years later we received a different file with the same problems and after some investigation we found out it was the "grandson" of that original problematic file) This was a few years ago but from what I remember the are 3 ways a font can be described: 1) the displayed font name. 2) the internal font name 3) the font face description. This was evident by looking at the font name/faces as presented to the user in MS word, InDesign and Windows fonts control panel (not to mention the file names many times being cryptic at best). I started using TT and Type 1 fonts for composition back in 1994. We had many font issues over the years and I figured that the industry would get it together. In 2018 there are still font naming inconsistencies between various programs and OS platforms. When will this ever get straightened out? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Keith Martin via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 10:46 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Keith Martin Subject: Re: Text Styles: Expanded, condensed On 17 Feb 2018, at 16:51, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > LC no longer manipulates text directly to produce styles, it now uses > the equivalent font. And as a typographer, let me say YAY! Distorted type hurts my soul. :( k --- Keith Martin Senior Lecturer, LCC (University of the Arts London) --- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [ANN] Release 8.1.9
"Jazz is not dead, it just smells funny" Frank Zappa Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mark Wieder via use-livecode Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 7:01 PM To: Ralph DiMola via use-livecode Cc: Mark Wieder Subject: Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.9 On 02/09/2018 09:07 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: > ...\Roaming\... Hah! I was listening to Ornette's "Rambling" when that email arrived. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: iOS app Error ITMS-90529 submitting to app store via Application Loader
Panos, Thanks! That did it. Uploaded and waiting for review. Have a good weekend. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 4:55 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: panagiotis merakos Subject: Re: iOS app Error ITMS-90529 submitting to app store via Application Loader Hi Ralph, The file you should upload should be called "application.ipa", not "application.ipa.zip" Try this: 1. In LC, create an iOS standalone as usual 2. Suppose the standalone is saved in a folder called myApp, located in user's Desktop folder so you should see something like: Desktop/myApp/myApp.app 3. Open a terminal and navigate to Desktop folder: "cd ~/Desktop" 4. From the terminal, rename the "myApp" folder to "Payload" "mv myApp Payload" 5. From the terminal, zip the "Payload" folder and rename it to "application.ipa": "zip -r application.ipa Payload" 6. Now use Application Loader to upload the "application.ipa" file. These are the steps I followed when testing uploading to AppStore with LC 8.1.9 RC-2 and 8.1.9, and it worked. Keep us posted. Panos -- On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 9:51 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Brain, > > > > Thanks but still no-go. > > > > > > Ralph DiMola > > IT Director > > Evergreen Information Services > > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 > > Cell: 518-796-9332 > > > > From: Brian Milby [mailto:br...@milby7.com] > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 4:16 PM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Ralph DiMola > Subject: Re: iOS app Error ITMS-90529 submitting to app store via > Application Loader > > > > Try with 8.1.9 - I think that is a bug that was fixed. > > On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:00 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Here's a new one I never received before. Using 8.1.9 rc2. I made the > app using the distribution profile and zipped it up as usual. > Xcode 9.2 > Application Loader 3.7 > OS X 10.12.6 > > The upload to the app store starts and the I get this error during > "Verifying assets with the App Store." > > ERROR ITMS-90529: "Invalid package. Applications built with sdk 9.0 or > later must be packaged as proper IPA files." > > Has the zipping procedure changes with 8.1.9 rc2? I did not get this > with > 8.1.9 rc1. > > Thanks in advance... > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: iOS app Error ITMS-90529 submitting to app store via Application Loader
Panos, Hold the presses. I reorganized the folder with the icons and must have deleted the iStore icon file. I did not get an error when building. I am going to try again. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 4:41 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: panagiotis merakos Subject: Re: iOS app Error ITMS-90529 submitting to app store via Application Loader Hi Ralph, Have you included an AppStore icon (1024x1024) png in the iOS standalone settings? Panos - On Feb 9, 2018 21:16, "Brian Milby via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Try with 8.1.9 - I think that is a bug that was fixed. > On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:00 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Here's a new one I never received before. Using 8.1.9 rc2. I made > > the app using the distribution profile and zipped it up as usual. > > Xcode 9.2 > > Application Loader 3.7 > > OS X 10.12.6 > > > > The upload to the app store starts and the I get this error during > > "Verifying assets with the App Store." > > > > ERROR ITMS-90529: "Invalid package. Applications built with sdk 9.0 > > or later must be packaged as proper IPA files." > > > > Has the zipping procedure changes with 8.1.9 rc2? I did not get this > > with > > 8.1.9 rc1. > > > > Thanks in advance... > > > > Ralph DiMola > > IT Director > > Evergreen Information Services > > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: iOS app Error ITMS-90529 submitting to app store via Application Loader
Brain, Thanks but still no-go. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 From: Brian Milby [mailto:br...@milby7.com] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 4:16 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Ralph DiMola Subject: Re: iOS app Error ITMS-90529 submitting to app store via Application Loader Try with 8.1.9 - I think that is a bug that was fixed. On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:00 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode wrote: Here's a new one I never received before. Using 8.1.9 rc2. I made the app using the distribution profile and zipped it up as usual. Xcode 9.2 Application Loader 3.7 OS X 10.12.6 The upload to the app store starts and the I get this error during "Verifying assets with the App Store." ERROR ITMS-90529: "Invalid package. Applications built with sdk 9.0 or later must be packaged as proper IPA files." Has the zipping procedure changes with 8.1.9 rc2? I did not get this with 8.1.9 rc1. Thanks in advance... Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: iOS app Error ITMS-90529 submitting to app store via Application Loader
Panos. Yes I did. I just tried with 8.1.9gm just to make sure... Same error. I tried sending an .ipa with a .zip extension but same error. I included all icons and splash screens. I received no "dimension" errors when adding or LC build errors or warnings Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 4:41 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: panagiotis merakos Subject: Re: iOS app Error ITMS-90529 submitting to app store via Application Loader Hi Ralph, Have you included an AppStore icon (1024x1024) png in the iOS standalone settings? Panos - On Feb 9, 2018 21:16, "Brian Milby via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Try with 8.1.9 - I think that is a bug that was fixed. > On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:00 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > Here's a new one I never received before. Using 8.1.9 rc2. I made > > the app using the distribution profile and zipped it up as usual. > > Xcode 9.2 > > Application Loader 3.7 > > OS X 10.12.6 > > > > The upload to the app store starts and the I get this error during > > "Verifying assets with the App Store." > > > > ERROR ITMS-90529: "Invalid package. Applications built with sdk 9.0 > > or later must be packaged as proper IPA files." > > > > Has the zipping procedure changes with 8.1.9 rc2? I did not get this > > with > > 8.1.9 rc1. > > > > Thanks in advance... > > > > Ralph DiMola > > IT Director > > Evergreen Information Services > > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
iOS app Error ITMS-90529 submitting to app store via Application Loader
Here's a new one I never received before. Using 8.1.9 rc2. I made the app using the distribution profile and zipped it up as usual. Xcode 9.2 Application Loader 3.7 OS X 10.12.6 The upload to the app store starts and the I get this error during "Verifying assets with the App Store." ERROR ITMS-90529: "Invalid package. Applications built with sdk 9.0 or later must be packaged as proper IPA files." Has the zipping procedure changes with 8.1.9 rc2? I did not get this with 8.1.9 rc1. Thanks in advance... Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [ANN] Release 8.1.9
:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\RunRev\Preferences Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Klaus major-k via use-livecode Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 12:00 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Klaus major-k Subject: Re: [ANN] Release 8.1.9 Hi Mark, > Am 09.02.2018 um 17:57 schrieb Mark Wieder via use-livecode : > > On 02/09/2018 07:23 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode wrote: > >>> Could you post the link to this thread here? >> Sure, you may need to become a forum member before you can read the posting. >> <http://www.livecode-blog.de/forums/topic/fehlermeldung-beim-starten/ >> > But I already told you everything he said there... > My usual remedy in cases like this is to delete the preferences file and start things up again. good idea, where will he find it on Windows? > -- > Mark Wieder > ahsoftw...@gmail.com Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major-k.de ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: SE: restore default handlers?
Mike, Yes, the DBID will increment and the DB will be opened multiple time. I have SQLite DBs open in the IDE while testing and open in MS Access via ODBC at the same time. If both apps are reading then no problem. There is no real good transactional record locking in SQLite. LC will throw an error if you are even reading the record in another program at the same time as an update happens in LC. You can use these LC errors to do a retry for the update. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kerner via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 1:44 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Mike Kerner Subject: Re: SE: restore default handlers? @Bob are you sure that's true? I seem to recall being able to accidentally reopen the db over and over without an error. I can't remember if the dbid increments when I do this, but I think it does. On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 11:04 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Of course, sqlite DBs are single user only so any attempt to open it a > second time would fail. Just tossing that out there. > > Bob S > > > > On Feb 6, 2018, at 11:30 , panagiotis merakos via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > Thanks Richard. So, a guess is that for some reason LC cannot open > > the sqlite database that holds all the dictionary entries, thus it > > cannot > fetch > > the list of the default handlers per object. I am wondering if this > > is related to the other bug report you have filed, where the > > dictionary > opens > > but it is empty for you. > > > > Let's delete the Documentation Cache: > > > > 1. Quit LC 9.0.0 DP-11 > > 2. Delete folder: .runrev/documentationcache/9_0_0_dp_11_commercial/ > > 3. Open LC > > 4. Check if the default handlers appear now. > > > > Best, > > Panos > > -- > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > >> panagiotis merakos wrote: > >>> I cannot reproduce this, tested on Ubuntu 16.04 with LC 9 DP-11. > >>> > >>> Could it be the case that there is a bad interaction with a Plugin? > >>> > >>> What happens if you try first to "put true into grevdevelopment" > >>> and then uncheck and recheck "Show Default handlers"? > >>> > >>> If something was failing silently before, this should now throw an > >>> error. > >> > >> Thanks. Indeed it does - this is what I get pouring into the > >> Message > Box: > >> > >> > >> ERROR: unable to open database > >> unable to create sqlite API database revdberr,invalid database type > >> line: 1079 > >> handler: ideThrow > >> script object: stack "/home/rg/.runrev/components/l > >> ivecodeindy-9.0.0-dp-11.x86_64/Toolset/libraries/revidelibra > >> ry.8.livecodescript" > >> > >> ERROR: unable to open database > >> unable to create sqlite API database revdberr,invalid database type > >> line: 1079 > >> handler: ideThrow > >> script object: stack "/home/rg/.runrev/components/l > >> ivecodeindy-9.0.0-dp-11.x86_64/Toolset/libraries/revidelibra > >> ry.8.livecodescript" > >> ERROR: unable to open database > >> unable to create sqlite API database revdberr,invalid database type > >> line: 1079 > >> handler: ideThrow > >> script object: stack "/home/rg/.runrev/components/l > >> ivecodeindy-9.0.0-dp-11.x86_64/Toolset/libraries/revidelibra > >> ry.8.livecodescript" > >> > >> ERROR: unable to open database > >> unable to create sqlite API database revdberr,invalid database type > >> line: 1079 > >> handler: ideThrow > >> script object: stack "/home/rg/.runrev/components/l > >> ivecodeindy-9.0.0-dp-11.x86_64/Toolset/libraries/revidelibra > >> ry.8.livecodescript" > >> ERROR: unable to open database > >> unable to create sqlite API database revdberr,invalid database type > >> line: 1079 > >> handler: ideThrow > >> script object: stack "/home/rg/.runrev/components/l > >> ivecodeindy-9.0.0-dp-11.x86_64/Toolset/libraries/revidelibra > >> ry.8.livecodescript" > >> ERROR: unable to open database > >> unable to create sqlite API database re
RE: FormattedHeight of a field and its contents
David, Nice I've been wrestling with this. I am going to see how your observations translate into mobile. I'm going to apply your of findings to my app and see if I get better results than I get now. There have been a few threads in the past few years addressing vertically centering text in a field. None of them seem to address all font size cases. This 6px thingy might explain a lot! Thanks again for all your work. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of David Epstein via use-livecode Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 9:38 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: David Epstein Subject: Re: FormattedHeight of a field and its contents Thanks for the responses on this. I used Bernd’s tool and did some more tests, and found some things that may be helpful to others. While the left and right margins of a field are meant literally (a 5 pixel left margin leaves 5 white pixels to the left of the text), the top margin is more complicated, no doubt owing to the variety of textHeights that need to be accommodated. For example, a margin of "0" will often clip the top of the text--as if "0" meant a "negative margin". 6 seems to be a magic default value for a field's top margin, which avoids clipping the content. With horizontal gridlines visible, a 6 pixel buffer makes the top row the same height as the other rows. And with a 6 pixel buffer the formattedHeight of the field will exactly match the formattedHeight of the field's content (although a non-zero borderwidth or a horizontal scrollbar changes this). Thus--what I wondered about in my original post--with a margin less than 6 the formattedHeight of the field is less than the formattedHeight of the content; the content is in effect clipped. At smaller textHeights this will be visible, while at larger textHeights only white space above the characters is clipped. I was trying to answer two questions, and I think I'm pretty close. 1. How do I make sure that the field's contents are all visible if I set the field's height to the formattedHeight? Answer: Set the top and bottom margins to 6. For the left and right margins, even 1 pixel should be enough to keep everything visible. 2. What margins will provide a symmetrical look for a text box? A top margin of 6 doesn’t look like a 6 pixel margin; how it looks depends on the textHeight. I estimate that its apparent height is one fourth of the effective textHeight, and I use this to size the other margins in the “tightMargins” handler below. While the top margin of 6 looks good with horizontal gridlines, without them (and especially if you show a text baseline) it looks too small compared to the space between subsequent lines. To match that larger space, in effect doubling the apparent top margin, add one third of the effective textHeight. See “niceMargins” handler below. Example of usage: set the margins of fld 1 to the niceMargins of fld 1 set the height of fld 1 to the formattedHeight of fld 1 getProp niceMargins put the effective textHeight of the target into t put round(t*7/12) into m1 put round(t/3) into m2 return m1,6+m2,m1,m1 end niceMargins getProp tightMargins put round(.25*the effective textHeight of the target) into m return m,6,m,max(6,m) end tightMargins Improvements to these are welcomed. David Epstein ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: discrepancy between official device metric and LC stack size
Nicolas, Does that device have "old hardware keys" soft buttons on the bottom? On some devices this is shown if the manifest does not include some key that says your app no longer needs the "old hardware keys". Android has been phasing the hardware keys out. Setting this key in the manifests not an option on the Android standalone setting. Looking at my code I see I use "the rect of this card" to account for the soft keys but not the keyboard. To account for the keyboard and soft "old hardware keys": put 0 into tLeft put 0 into tTop put item 3 of the effective working screenrect - item 1 of the effective working screenrect into tRight put item 4 of the effective working screenrect - item 2 of the effective working screenrect into tBottom This has been working for me on both iOS and Android. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Nicolas Cueto via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:24 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Nicolas Cueto Subject: discrepancy between official device metric and LC stack size I test my mobile stacks on a Nexus 5, and, in portrait orientation, many bottom pixels are offscreen, even though for width and height I follow exactly the numbers given in dp at the website Device Metrics <https://material.io/devices/> . Why is it cut off? And how can I avoid this? Is there an LC keyword, like "effective" or "working", that I should be including if so, how? Thanks. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Saving Changes in iOS
The folders already exists. You can of course create sub-folders. In iOS "the
Documents folder" is automatically backed up but "the Temporary Folder" is not.
Apple reviewers will get upset if you put too much into the documents folder.
You will be required to either move files to the temporary folder or mark them
as "No Backup". Using iphoneDoNotBackupFile.
Example:
Put URL("File:"&the engine folder&slash&"MyDatabase.db") into url ("File:"&the
documents folder&slash&"MyDatabase.db")
put revOpenDatabase("sqlite", the documents folder&slash&"MyDatabase.db"), , ,)
into tDatabaseID
You would put MyDatabase.db in the copy file pane of the standalone settings.
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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of
Roger Guay via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 12:41 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Roger Guay
Subject: Re: Saving Changes in iOS
Hi Klaus,
So are you saying that I create a folder called
"specialfolderpath("documents”)”, add this folder to the “Copy Files” of the
Standalone Application Settings, and put my MainStack into it?
Thanks,
Roger
> On Jan 29, 2018, at 9:21 AM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode
> wrote:
>
> You already named it:
> the documents folder
> the temporary folder
>
> Is equivalent to:
> specialfolderpath("documents")
> specialfolderpath("temporary")
>
>
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RE: Saving Changes in iOS
Roger, On Android and iOS "the engine folder" is read only. Any files/stacks you want to save/modify must be moved to "the documents folder" or "the temporary folder" before they can be modified/saved. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Roger Guay via use-livecode Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 10:15 AM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Roger Guay Subject: Saving Changes in iOS I know I’m out to lunch again, but I notice that one cannot use the ol’ Launcher+MainStack method in iOS to save user changes. What’s up with that? How does one save user changes in iOS? Thanks, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Feature proposal: mobileActualAllowedOrientations?
That's what I was think of... Here's the deal in order to give any UI experience using LCS: 1) We need a property called "overideDeviceOrientationLock" (or whatever you want to call it). a) if true then apps can allow any orientation regardless of the devices settings. B) If false the app is locked into the device's settings. 2) If your app is open and the device is changed to lock into orientation "A". If the app's "overideDeviceOrientationLock" is false, if the app is not currently in orientation "A" then the screen is rotated to orientation "A" and the standard orientationchanged and resizestack messages are sent. 3) If the device is in orientation "A" and the LCS orientations allowed is set to "B" and either the device is not locked in a specific orientation OR "overideDeviceOrientationLock" is set to true then screen is rotated to orientation "B" and the standard orientationchanged and resizestack messages are sent. 4) Forcing an app to change orientation via LCS(using allowed orientations) works only iPhones but not for iPads or Android. If your iPhone is in orientation "A" and LCS changes the allowed orientation is set to "B", the screen will rotate and the appropriate messages are sent, but like I said not on iPads or Android. If we implement #1 and fix #4 and LC uses rules #2 and #3, then all options are available. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 11:14 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: J. Landman Gay Subject: Re: Feature proposal: mobileActualAllowedOrientations? On January 27, 2018 6:18:34 PM Richard Gaskin via use-livecode wrote: > IIRC I did once have a game on this phone, and it opened full-screen > in landscape regardless of my orientation lock. Seems reasonable, > because as you say that app experience wouldn't make sense in portrait. That's what I was talking about. In some cases you do want the app to force an orientation regardless of the user lock. If LC always forces compliance we'll just have a different problem. Maybe we need some kind of override property. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Feature proposal: mobileActualAllowedOrientations?
Richard, LC apps in iOS do respect the lock. This an Android only problem. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Richard Gaskin via use-livecode Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:00 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Richard Gaskin Subject: Feature proposal: mobileActualAllowedOrientations? I have the orientation on my phone locked to portrait. I'm sure I'm not the only person in the world who locks their orientation. LiveCode is the only app on my phone that doesn't respect a locked orientation, freely jiggling around as I rotate my phone. I can lock the orientation within my app, but I shouldn't have to. And if I did, how could I know which orientation a user has locked to? I can't find anything in the Dictionary that suggests how to resolve this, so I'm thinking of either of two Bugzilla submissions: a) mobileActuallAllowedOrientations (or some more graceful name), a proposed function which returns the actual orientations the device is currently set to allow. b) Bug report that LC doesn't respect the device's orientation lock. Which do you folks feel is the better option? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Systems Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Preserving Detailed Field Content
Roger, The htmltext will preserve all of that. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Roger Guay via use-livecode Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 10:56 AM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Roger Guay Subject: Preserving Detailed Field Content I have a multiple line field with some lines of different color and strikeout textStyle. If I set the custom property, the cContent, of that field to the field itself, the textColor and TextStyle of each line is lost. Is there a simple way to capture the contents of a field with varied textColor and textStyle preserved? Sorry if this sounds confusing. Thanks very much, Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: resizing and rescaling an object: Is this math/logic ok?
This was my first attempt also. I found that precision errors crept in. The first resize on the mobile device worked OK but change from portrait to landscape a few times and the precision errors become very apparent. I rolled my own my LC resize handler that positions controls based on the current screen rect and their relationship to other controls. LC now offers solutions that I have not used that others have had good success with. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Nicolas Cueto via use-livecode Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 1:34 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Nicolas Cueto Subject: resizing and rescaling an object: Is this math/logic ok? Given these values... original STACK-width is tOSW original stack-height is tOSH resized stack-width is tRSW resized stack-height of stack is tRSH original OBJECT rect is tOOR (i.e., left,top,right,bottom) ... and assuming I'm right that ... ratio of stack's width change is tRSWC and equals round(tRSW / tOSW,2) ratio of stack's height change is tRSHC and equals round(tRSH / tOSH,2) ... then how (further?) wrong am I in assuming that, if I want the original object resized and repositioned to scale on the new stack size, the NEW RECT of that object therefore equals ... round(item 1 of tOOR * tRSWC,0) , round(item 2 of tOOR * tRSHC,0) , round(item 3 of tOOR * tRSWC,0), round(item 4 of tOOR * tRSHC,0) Sorry if that was painful. For what it's worth, I'm embarassed posting it, but... -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: deploying to multiple mobile devices
Copying the apk to the server and sending the email is a manual operation
but could be added to AirLaunch?
Just to add to what JLM said. I ran into this problem last night after a
call from some testers. Installing on the device can now be a little
trickier if the Chrome browser is installed. The Chrome download manager no
longer lets you install an apk. When my users(testers) clicked on the apk on
the Chrome Downloads page the users are now receiving this message "Cant
Open File". That is why some users may need to use a file explorer app("OS
built in" or "ES file explorer" or "Astro") in order to install the app.
At first I thought it was the apk copy to the server or the web server was
at fault until I found out it was Chrome's new security protocol.
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From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 5:30 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: J. Landman Gay
Subject: Re: deploying to multiple mobile devices
On 1/16/18 2:22 PM, Nicolas Cueto via use-livecode wrote:
> Some of my stacks are for a classroom situation, so would like to
> deploy to the various smartphones of class sizes of 3 to 20 students
> (1) preferably cable-free (Wifi?), (2) easily for the end-user, and
> (3) as simultaneously as possible.
>
> On Mac and for iOS, it seems the best (only?) choice is Jacqueline
> Landman Gay's AirLaunch
> <http://www.hyperactivesw.com/airlaunch/index.html>,
> specially since it does so from withing LC itself.
>
> But for Android? and on Windows?
Android apps can be downloaded from anywhere if the user has turned on the
option to download apps from "unknown sources", so all you need to do is put
the apk file on a server somewhere and give out the link. The user goes to
the link in a browser on their mobile device and when they click it, the app
will install. If their device prefs do not allow installation from "unknown
sousrces", they can turn the option on temporarily in the Security section
of the Android system settings.
On iOS, no distribution is possible until you have built the app with a
profile that contains the UUID for each user device. AirLaunch, or any other
third-party solution, will prepare the app for distribution but iOS won't
install it without the correct distribution profile. Apple provides
TestFlight which overcomes some of this limitation but I have never used it
so I'm not sure exactly how it works. Someone more familiar with it would
know more.
--
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RE: Mac path to Android SDK?
You have to download the SDK and unzip it. Get it here ==>https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html#command-tools Scroll down to "Get just the command line tools" and download the zip file for your platform. Unzip it. Go to the folder and run "SDK Manager" and make sure you have download the 1) Build Tools 2) Platform Tools 3) API 27. You also need to install JRE and JDK from the Oracle site. JDK 1.8.0 has been working well for me. Point LC Mobile Prefs to the folder you unzipped it to. You should then be able to build an Android app. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Nicolas Cueto via use-livecode Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 6:37 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Nicolas Cueto Subject: Mac path to Android SDK? To configure Mobile prefs on Mac, where might the Android SDK be? LC states "The root directory may look something like: ...android-sdk-mac", so I'll try searching for that in the meantime. Thank you. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Standalone Name vs Display Name
The "Title" in stack properties is only seen in the IDE and desktop apps. On Mobile this is never displayed. You could leave it defaulted to the stack name. I usually make it nice to read and identify so the title bars in the IDE are easy on the eyes. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Roger Guay via use-livecode Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 1:54 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Roger Guay Subject: Re: Standalone Name vs Display Name Well, in Stack Properties, one is given the opportunity to provide a title. Otherwise the title becomes the name of the stack. Are you saying this title of the stack is one of the subject items? If so, which one? And, would that one supersede any title I might have given my stack in Stack Properties? Thanks. Roger > On Jan 14, 2018, at 11:37 AM, Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode > wrote: > > I don't think this is particularly complicated; > > it is rather like the fact that you can have a standalone on a desktop > system called something (e.g. "XXX") but when the standalone opens it can > have something else on its title bar (e.g. "Oh, you expected XXX"). > > Richmond. > > On 14/1/2018 8:24 pm, Roger Guay via use-livecode wrote: >> I’m wrapped around the axle again! >> >> In Standalone Application Settings, can someone tell me the difference >> between the Standalone Name under the General Tab, and the Display Name >> under the iOS tab? >> >> Thanks very much. >> >> Roger >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Standalone Name vs Display Name
Roger, The "Standalone Name" is the name of the .app or the .apk(Android) files AND the sequential folder names created in the build folder. The "Display Name"(iOS) and "Label"(Android) is just the the text under the app icon on the device. What really makes an app unique on a device is "Internal App ID"(iOS) and "Identifier"(Android). Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Roger Guay via use-livecode Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 1:25 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Roger Guay Subject: Standalone Name vs Display Name I’m wrapped around the axle again! In Standalone Application Settings, can someone tell me the difference between the Standalone Name under the General Tab, and the Display Name under the iOS tab? Thanks very much. Roger ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Creating .ipa now that iTunes has depreciated apps.
Well I finally updated iTunes and lost the ability to create an .ipa. I made
a right click context item in finder to get one click .ipa creation back.
If anyone want this:
1) Open up the Automater
2) Create new
3) Select "Run Shell Script" from left pane
4) Change "Pass input:" to "as arguments"
5) Paste in this script
current_path=$(dirname "$1")
cd "$current_path"
for f in "$@"
do
mkdir Payload
cp -r "$f" Payload/
base=$(basename $f)
base2="${base%.*}"
zip -r "$base2".zip Payload/
mv "$base2".zip "$base2".ipa
rm -R Payload/
done
6) Save and name it "Create ipa"
That's it.
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RE: Parameters for functions and commands
T, Non functions don't need the parens. You are actually are passing 1 parameter of "2,3" When you do a "put DoStuff_2 (2,3)" LC is looking for a function DoStuff_2 that does not exist. If you do "DoStuff_2 2,3" you will get the expected results. Also if a non function does a "Return somevar" the value of somevar with be in "the result" Example: On DoStuff3 a,b Return A End DoStuff3 The if you do this in another handler Dostuff3 2,3 Answer the result You will see "2" Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Thomas von Fintel via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 4:30 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Thomas von Fintel Subject: Parameters for functions and commands I am well aware that I shouldn't expect *everything* in Livecode to be intuitive, but this one bugs me: Having a handler like function DoStuff_1 a, b return a end DoStuff_1 When you do "put DoStuff_1 (2,3)" the result is 2. But with on DoStuff_2 a, b put a end DoStuff_2 The result of DoStuff_2 (2, 3) is 2,3. "put a*b" produces an error. This means, parameters are passed differently to command handlers and function handlers. Right? Is that the way it should be and why? Thanks for your patience Thomas ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: lineHeight different Mac vs. Windows
I have 2 bug reports on this. 12176 and 13551 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Could not encode class bundle
OK... back to the problem at hand J, On Win 10 I built/installed/ran an Android app using dp11. I have JDK 1.8.0_102 installed. On the MacBook I successfully built but did not install using JDK 1.8.0_121. Looks like JDK 1.8.0 is the magic sauce. Hope this helps. Have a good holiday. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ali Lloyd via use-livecode Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 5:34 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Ali Lloyd Subject: Re: Could not encode class bundle Yes, looking at previous instances of this error I think using JDK 1.8 is the easiest fix. I'm not sure exactly why this changed from DP 10 to 11 though... On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:04 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Okay, it's a very long error that I couldn't copy, but the first line is: > > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: > com/android/dx/command/Main : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0 > > This is followed by a dozen lines of various java errors concerning > lang, security, net, and misc. > > I'm still using the Apple-supplied java installation 1.6.0. Do I need > a different one? > > On 12/22/17 2:26 PM, Ali Lloyd via use-livecode wrote: > > Could you put > > > > "answer the result" > > > > before > > > > throw "could not encode class bundle" > > > > in the revSaveAsAndroidStandalone script? That should give us a clue > > as > to > > what the error is. > > > > On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 7:13 PM J. Landman Gay via use-livecode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > >> On 12/22/17 12:56 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: > >>> I'm unable to build an Android app in LC 9dp11, I get "Unable to > >>> encode class bundle." I have installed all the Android build tools > >>> for every version (17 through 27.0.3), and also the latest SDK > >>> Tools (25.2.5) and SDK Platform-tools (27.0.1). I do not use Android Studio. > >>> > >>> What else do I need? Preferences point to the correct SDK folder. > >>> > >> > >> BTW, I was able to build with LC 9dp10. > >> > >> -- > >> Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > >> HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > >> > >> ___ > >> use-livecode mailing list > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > >> subscription preferences: > >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > >> > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-11
JOY TO THE WORLD!! Ali/Panos, thank you. This is why I support the LC platform and more importantly the LC team and why I contributed to the various campaigns. What other commercial product has the heavyweights monitoring an email list and not only chime in with help but solve problems @11:00 pm on the Friday before a holiday? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 5:55 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: panagiotis merakos Subject: Re: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-11 Indeed, I had this issue on a native windows 7 machine. The issue was fixed once I uninstalled (by running the setup.exe file) and then reinstalling. Best, Panos On Dec 22, 2017 22:43, "Ali Lloyd via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Try uninstalling and reinstalling. I believe Panos ran into this in > testing at some point last week but was unable to replicate > > On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 10:37 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I was trying to replicate J Gay's Android build error I ran into a > > roadblock. > > > > I can't launch on Win 10 build 1709 on a VM. The splash hangs at > > "Loading Libraries". I dumped all mu Plug-Ins and nuked the prefs, > > disabled AV SW, ran as administrator but still no joy. > > > > Any ideas before a get a QCC report going? > > > > Ralph DiMola > > IT Director > > Evergreen Information Services > > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > > > > ___ > > use-livecode mailing list > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-11
I was trying to replicate J Gay's Android build error I ran into a roadblock. I can't launch on Win 10 build 1709 on a VM. The splash hangs at "Loading Libraries". I dumped all mu Plug-Ins and nuked the prefs, disabled AV SW, ran as administrator but still no joy. Any ideas before a get a QCC report going? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-11
Wh You folks rock! I feel like the xmas I got my first Heathkit oscilloscope. I spent the entire first day building it and the next year using it. Excitement on both fronts just like dp11 will. Margaret and I send our best wishes to the mother ship and all you good people on the list. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 9:31 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: panagiotis merakos Subject: [ANN] Release 9.0.0 DP-11 Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 9.0.0 DP-11. Developer Preview Release = Warning: this is not a stable release. Please ensure that you back up your stacks before testing them. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 9.0.0 DP-11 comes with more than 40 bugfixes. Moreover, more than 90 bugfixes that were fixed in LiveCode 8.1.x and 8.2.x, are now merged into LiveCode 9.0.0 DP-11. In addition, LiveCode 9.0.0 DP-11 includes several amazing new features: - Great progress on Obj-C FFI: support for dynamic instance binding, dynamic property binding and delegate support is added. With LCB, you can easily wrap an API of your choice and use it from LiveCode Script. For example, see the code in http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20733, which wraps NSUserNotification, used to send a notification. - Target folder variant of the detailed files and the detailed folders: The files() and folders() function now have a second optional argument, allowing “detailed” to be specified. - Image Object SVG support: Include high quality SVG images at a very small cost on the standalone size - HTML5 windowing: This allows tooltips, dialogs, and pop-up menus to work within the HTML5 engine. This also allows multiple stacks to be opened on the HTML5 page. - Windows cameraControl enhancements: Support to the windows camera control for exposure, focus and white balance mode properties has been added. - Data Grid 2 visual / interactive elements: datagrid edit mode swipe actions / drag reordering - New LCB syntax: added support for "the architecture", "trigger all" and access to system error - Android AAR support: Add support for AAR files as extension dependencies - Android manifest merging: An android manifest merging mechanism has been added to the android standalone builder. This enables manifests to be included in extension jvm-android code folders which are then merged into the main manifest at build time. - Android Toast Notification Library - Extension code library support: Extensions can now include compiled libraries on which they depend. - New Native Map Widget for Android, iOS and Mac 64 bit (Indy+) - New Signature Widget for all platforms (Indy+) - New SecureKey Library for Android, iOS and Mac (Business): The SecureKey library provides a way to encrypt data with a private key which is held securely on the device and tied to the application owning it. - New Media Foundation External (Business): A new external has been implemented to allow transcoding and basic editing of videos on Windows. The external supports Windows 8.1+. - Browser Widget now works again in 64 bit Linux - Browser Widget now works in 32 bit Linux as well :) Last, but not least, LC 9.0.0 DP-11 includes a new version of our prebuilt OpenSSL library, new versions of tsNet and mergExt* externals, as well as support for the latest version of Xcode (9.2). For more details on this release, read Ali's exciting blogpost: https://livecode.com/livecode-9-the-final-preview/ Important Note: The shortcuts for Autocomplete have changed, since they were conflicting with existing shortcuts in some platforms. So, now: - The F1 key (or Fn+F1 in some keyboards) is now used for presenting autocomplete when the user has the live autocomplete preference off. If the completions pane is already presented, the F1 key will launch the dictionary if the chosen completion is documented. - The tab key is now used to apply the completion, or to move to the next placeholder. Known issues - The Browser widget's native layer is not shown in some Linux distros with Cinnamon window manager. - DataGrid swipe (and drag-reorder) actions seem to interfere with the scroller on Android, requiring an additional swipe (and drag-reorder) action to make it work. This will be fixed in next release. - You might not be able to run HTML5 standalones locally using the most recent version of Safari or Chrome (Firefox is OK). This is due to those browsers now prohibiting cross-origin-requests. To test out standalones locally using these browser, we suggest using a loc
Android Answer Box Bug When Tapping Outside of Dialog
If you tap outside an answer box on Android the dialog disappears and "it" contains the right most option. "the result" is empty. I would think that the result(or "it") should return "Cancel". The result is empty whether you select an option or tap outside the dialog. This is a problem. Filing QCC Android Nougat LC 8.1.7 and 8.1.9 rc1 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Versions of LC and Xcode
LC looks for build tools from that hard coded path. It does not matter what Xcode entries are in the prefs this path(applications/xcode.app) is always used when building. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2017 12:24 PM To: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode Cc: Ben Rubinstein Subject: Re: Versions of LC and Xcode I've added an enhancement request http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20779 to keep all paths requested by the user (in the shared prefs), clearly indicating which ones are compatible with the version of LC in use. There's also an existing request http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=18841 to report compatible Xcodes in the Mobile Support preferences, rather than in external documents or web pages which may or may not be up to date. If I was confident enough about my facts I'd like to raise a bug report about the behaviour which requires a copy of Xcode named "Xcode.app" (and in /Applications?) but I'm not sure of the details. Does anyone else have a clear picture of this? Many thanks, Ben On 20/12/2017 01:33, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: > @ Mike and Ralph > > Hmmm I jumped the gun… downloaded Xcode 9.0, then woke up this morning > to find 8.1.9 RC1 as a Winter Solstice Candy Box from Scotland > (Nandri/Mahalo!) > > 8.1.9 RC1 will let us use xCode 9.2 now… > > but saving a specific path to a specific xCode version could be > useful… > > > > On 12/19/17, 10:52 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Mike Kerner via > use-livecode" use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Doesn't this sound like a good idea for the "Hacking the IDE series" at > LCG? > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Versions of LC and Xcode
BR, I've been a little under the weather so I can't test. I always rename/move the most recent version of Xcode to another folder and download the most recent one to the application folder and open it at least once. If you need an older version then temporarily rename and move a more recent version to another folder then download the older version and open it once in the applications folder using the name xcode.app. Then rename/move the older version and move the most recent back to applications folder and name it Xcode.app. This does not fix the building problem with the hardcoded build path and the shared prefs in a LC version series. As I said the only way out of this rigmarole is: 1) Have unique prefs for each LC version. These unique prefs might only include the mobile prefs and let the other prefs be shared in a series 2) A way of indicating the Xcode version to use the build tools from. Things just move too quick not to do these 2 fixes. We have 2 or 3 active LC branches being released along with OSX/iOS/Xcode versions out the ying-yang not to do these 2 fixes. Have either of these 2 been added to the QCC DB? If this could all be done in LCS I would work on it. I can't see a downside. This would encourage me to do more testing with DPs and RCs. I can't remember a contiguous 30 day period in the last 18 months that my iOS prefs were stable. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode Sent: Monday, December 18, 2017 10:51 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami Subject: Re: Versions of LC and Xcode Hmmm I seem to have gotten myself into the same fix as Ben. " Now that I have updated to LC 9.0 DP-10 and LC 8.1.8 stable, nothing can build (except 8.1.6 stable - which unfortunately doesn't like the widgets in my stack!)." I'm on High Sierra 10.13.6, Xcode 9.1 and LC is telling me I don't have the required SDK @Ralph: I should start saving the old XCodes as you describe. so what now? Can we build for iOS on 9 dp 10 and if so, how? I’ll go and re-download the previous Xcode 9 from the developer portal… see it that helps. BR On 12/6/17, 11:36 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Ralph DiMola via use-livecode" wrote: #1 below==>The shared prefs is a problem. I see the same thing. Different prefs for each version would solve this. When a new version is started for the first time the prefs from the last version in the series(if any) should be copied to the new version prefs file. But the rub is... if you change some other prefs and go to another version the you lose the change. #2 below==>True... I always keep the Xcode version to build from in the applications folder and name it xcode.app. I put the other versions into another folder. When I upgrade Xcode I move the most recent version into my "OtherXcodeVersions" folder and rename it with the version number. I then download and install the new version into the applications folder. Of course I have to go into the LC prefs and fix the Xcode versions. The hardwired path to /Applications/Xcode.app should come from the prefs. Radio buttons in the Xcode prefs to indicate==> "Build using tools in this version would solve this. #3 below==> I agree the docs need to be updated matrix whenever a new Xcode/Mac/LC version is released. Even if LC does not support a particular combination it should be documented. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 4:16 PM To: Use LiveCode Cc: Ben Rubinstein Subject: Versions of LC and Xcode This continues to be a major source of friction. Once again all my versions of LiveCode seem to have been reset so that they can't find a version of Xcode they like. (At any time I am probably switching between (or have simultaneously open) four version of LC: LC 6.7.11; the latest stable version of 8; the latest 8 RC or sometimes DP; the latest DP of 9. Admittedly I'm not building iOS apps from 6.7.11.) I think that there are two main problems: 1) Because preferences are shared between versions of LiveCode. I believe it is the case than when switching between versions of LiveCode, if the mobile support preferences are opened in a version of LC which doesn't play nice with the selected version of Xcode, that path is deleted; so that next time the version of LC which was previously happy is opened, the path to Xcode is gone. The behaviour may be a little more subtle than this,
RE: libUrl tsNet and socketTimeoutInterval
BR,
I async also works in iOS just fine and dandy. In My app I am getting the
background images for cards while the user first logs in. Async allows the
images to be downloaded in the background. This allows me to change images
without releasing a new app without hanging the app up when I used blocking
libURL. The implementation was so easy it was frightening. I also have 6 of
these queued up and running at the same time!
First is a utility(NetworkType) to check the type of networking and a tsNet
initialization handler (EISinitTSnet):
function GetNetworkType
local tLibUrlDriver
try
put the behavior of stack"revLibUrl"into tLibUrlDriver
end try
if tLibUrlDriver is empty then
return "Sockets"
else
return "tsNet"
end if
end GetNetworkType
command NetworkType
if GetNetworkType() = "Sockets" then
answer"tsNet is disabled"
else
answer "tsNet in use"&cr&"Version==>"& tsNetVersion()
end if
end NetworkType
command EISinitTSnet
local tResult
try
tsNetInit
put the result into tResult
if tResult is not empty then
if tResult = "tsneterr: Already initialised" then
else
answer tResult
end if
else
tsNetSetTimeouts 60, 5000, 5000, 5000, 5, 1
end if
catch someerror
if IsInternalUser(true) then answer TranslateError(someerror)
end try
end EISinitTSnet
The Get_Path function below is a function returns paths that are transparent
between IDE and mobile. (Richard G. I got sucked into the returning the
trailing slash before I realized it was not the best way to do it). I hacked
out this code so there could be an error but the basic idea is here.
I call this first handler(StartBackgroundImageDownload) 12 time quickly and all
the downloads work. The app is fully functional while the downloads are in
progress. I use the filename as the pID. This makes things easy when the
download completes. I have not tested timeouts yet. That's the next step,
handling the in/out of network access/slow network speed. Standby
This is the guts of the asysnc file downloading:
---
command StartBackgroundImageDownload pImageName
local pHeaders, tStatus
put tsNetGetFile(pImageName, Get_Path("Updates")&pImageName, \
"https://xxx.com/someFolder/"&; \
urlencode(pImageName), pHeaders, "DownLoadBackgroundImageComplete")
into tStatus-- start download
if tStatus is not empty then
answer tStatus
end if
end StartBackgroundImageDownload
on DownLoadBackgroundImageComplete pID, pResult, pBytes, pCurlCode
local tData, tHeaders
--answer
"File==>"&pID&cr&"Bytes==>"&pBytes&cr&"Result==>"&pResult&cr&"CurlCode==>"&pCurlCode
if pCurlCode is not 0 then
answer tsNetRetrError(pID)
else
if pResult = 404 then
answer "File'"&&pID&&"not found==>"&pBytes&&"Result==>"&pResult
delete file Get_Path("Updates")&pID -- delete file with 404 error in it
else
--answer
"File==>"&pID&cr&"Bytes==>"&pBytes&cr&"Result==>"&pResult&cr&"CurlCode==>"&pCurlCode
if pBytes > 2000 then -- GOOD DOWNLOAD
rename file (Get_Path("Updates")&pID) to
(Get_Path("BackgroundImages")&pID) -- file download complete
--answer "File'"&&pID&&"has been downloaded. Result==>"&pResult
else
answer "File'"&&pID&&"has been downloaded but is too
small==>"&pBytes&&"Result==>"&pResult -- this was before I had the 404 check
delete file Get_Path("Updates")&pID
end if
end if
end if
tsNetCloseConn pID
end DownLoadBackgroundImageComplete
-
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IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
rdim...@evergreeninfo.net
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RE: libUrl tsNet and socketTimeoutInterval
Charles, Thanks... FYI Async tsNet in the iOS version just worked(like magic). Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Charles Warwick via use-livecode Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 5:00 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Charles Warwick Subject: Re: libUrl tsNet and socketTimeoutInterval Hi Ralph, There currently isn’t any ability to query the existing timeout values, though the default values are listed in the dictionary. I will look to add that ability in an upcoming release. If the Internet library is included in your application, it will automatically call tsNetInit for you on startup (which is what happens in the IDE) as it uses tsNet if it is available (and not disabled). If your application does not include the Internet library, but does include tsNet, you will need to call tsNetInit. Regards, Charles > On 8 Dec 2017, at 9:55 am, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > > Ok, I just got async tsNet working in IDE and Android(Testing iOS later). I > works great! Hat tip to all the contributors. One question and one > Observation: > 1) How do you query the current tsNet timeout settings? I have quite a few > places where I save the socketTimeoutInterval, set it to a new value, do > something and then set it back to the saved timeout. I don't see a way to > query this in the dictionary. > 2) I seems the you don't need to do a "tsNetInit" in the IDE. In the IDE one > gets "tsneterr: Already initialized". On Android this error does not occur. > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf > Of Charles Warwick via use-livecode > Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 4:53 PM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Charles Warwick > Subject: Re: libUrl tsNet and socketTimeoutInterval > > Sorry for the confusion, tsNet does handle the ‘load’ function, effectively > using its own asynchronous functions to replicate standard libUrl behaviour. > >> On 8 Dec 2017, at 6:44 am, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Thanks Charles…we have enough to go on now. >> >> well, almost >> >> if I read you right "load" is not handled by TSNet (since that is libURL's >> own asynchronous operation?) >> >> >> >> >> www.himalayanacademy.com <http://www.himalayanacademy.com> Get the SivaSiva >> App today (for iPhone and iPad) >> https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sivasiva/id1271260502?mt=8 >> >> >> >> >> On 12/6/17, 10:43 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Charles Warwick via >> use-livecode" > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> Sorry, divide my figures for the last parameter to tsNetSetTimeouts by 8, >> it has been a long day >> >> ___ >> use-livecode mailing list >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: libUrl tsNet and socketTimeoutInterval
Ok, I just got async tsNet working in IDE and Android(Testing iOS later). I works great! Hat tip to all the contributors. One question and one Observation: 1) How do you query the current tsNet timeout settings? I have quite a few places where I save the socketTimeoutInterval, set it to a new value, do something and then set it back to the saved timeout. I don't see a way to query this in the dictionary. 2) I seems the you don't need to do a "tsNetInit" in the IDE. In the IDE one gets "tsneterr: Already initialized". On Android this error does not occur. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Charles Warwick via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 4:53 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Charles Warwick Subject: Re: libUrl tsNet and socketTimeoutInterval Sorry for the confusion, tsNet does handle the ‘load’ function, effectively using its own asynchronous functions to replicate standard libUrl behaviour. > On 8 Dec 2017, at 6:44 am, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode > wrote: > > Thanks Charles…we have enough to go on now. > > well, almost > > if I read you right "load" is not handled by TSNet (since that is libURL's > own asynchronous operation?) > > > > > www.himalayanacademy.com <http://www.himalayanacademy.com> Get the SivaSiva > App today (for iPhone and iPad) > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sivasiva/id1271260502?mt=8 > > > > > On 12/6/17, 10:43 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Charles Warwick via > use-livecode" use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >Sorry, divide my figures for the last parameter to tsNetSetTimeouts by 8, > it has been a long day > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Versions of LC and Xcode
#1 below==>The shared prefs is a problem. I see the same thing. Different prefs for each version would solve this. When a new version is started for the first time the prefs from the last version in the series(if any) should be copied to the new version prefs file. But the rub is... if you change some other prefs and go to another version the you lose the change. #2 below==>True... I always keep the Xcode version to build from in the applications folder and name it xcode.app. I put the other versions into another folder. When I upgrade Xcode I move the most recent version into my "OtherXcodeVersions" folder and rename it with the version number. I then download and install the new version into the applications folder. Of course I have to go into the LC prefs and fix the Xcode versions. The hardwired path to /Applications/Xcode.app should come from the prefs. Radio buttons in the Xcode prefs to indicate==> "Build using tools in this version would solve this. #3 below==> I agree the docs need to be updated matrix whenever a new Xcode/Mac/LC version is released. Even if LC does not support a particular combination it should be documented. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 4:16 PM To: Use LiveCode Cc: Ben Rubinstein Subject: Versions of LC and Xcode This continues to be a major source of friction. Once again all my versions of LiveCode seem to have been reset so that they can't find a version of Xcode they like. (At any time I am probably switching between (or have simultaneously open) four version of LC: LC 6.7.11; the latest stable version of 8; the latest 8 RC or sometimes DP; the latest DP of 9. Admittedly I'm not building iOS apps from 6.7.11.) I think that there are two main problems: 1) Because preferences are shared between versions of LiveCode. I believe it is the case than when switching between versions of LiveCode, if the mobile support preferences are opened in a version of LC which doesn't play nice with the selected version of Xcode, that path is deleted; so that next time the version of LC which was previously happy is opened, the path to Xcode is gone. The behaviour may be a little more subtle than this, but I believe something along these lines is correct. 2) Something somewhere along the line of building apps seems to have a hardwired path to /Applications/Xcode.app; so that while I may be able to maintain a set of different Xcodes in separate folders or separately named, LiveCode won't entirely work this way. So currently I have XCode 8.3.3 as the 'canonical' version, probably because I was using LiveCode 9.0 DP-9. Now that I have updated to LC 9.0 DP-10 and LC 8.1.8 stable, nothing can build (except 8.1.6 stable - which unfortunately doesn't like the widgets in my stack!). 3) A third problem: I now want to start using LC 8.1.8, the latest stable version; what version of Xcode does it use on Mas OS 10.12? According to https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/ : > LiveCode 8.1.8 RC-2 – Xcode 7.2 -Mac OS 10.10 – iOS 9.2 LiveCode 8.1.8 > RC-2 – Xcode 8.2 -Mac OS 10.11 – iOS 10.2 LiveCode 8.1.8 RC-2 – Xcode > 9.1 -Mac OS 10.12.6+ – iOS 11.1 > > LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 – Xcode 7.2 -Mac OS 10.10 – iOS 9.2 LiveCode 8.2.0 > DP-1 – Xcode 8.2 -Mac OS 10.11 – iOS 10.2 LiveCode 8.2.0 DP-1 – Xcode > 8.3 -Mac OS 10.12 – iOS 10.3 Some things that would make this better: 1) When the mobile support preferences were opened, if there is a path to a version of Xcode which this version of LC can't use, it would be better if it were displayed - but in grey or red or similar to show it's not usable - rather than being deleted, this would be better. 2) Ensure that iOS standalones can be built if there is a path to a valid version of Xcode, regardless of that path. 3) Change the list on https://livecode.com/resources/support/ask-a-question/ to a table, with LiveCode versions on one axis, MacOS versions on the other, and Xcode/iOS versions in each cell. 3b) Update the above to include the current stable 8.1.8! I'm off for a stiff drink... Ben ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
libUrl tsNet and socketTimeoutInterval
libURL now using tsNet is a great addition to v8 but it seems to have broken my
code without warning unless I missed this warning in the release notes. I seems
that when tsNet was included in v8 the property socketTimeoutInterval does
nothing when doing ==> put url("https://"&pURL&":"&pPort) into tWebData <==.
This explains a few reported app hangs. In the IDE tried ==> dispatch
"revUnloadLibrary" to stack "tsNetLibURL" <== but socketTimeoutInterval still
does nothing. Ran the stack in 7.1.4 and socketTimeoutInterval works as
expected. It's my understanding that when tsNet is unloaded libUrl falls back
to using sockets and the socketTimeoutInterval property should be respected.
I'm using 8.1.7
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
Evergreen Information Services
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RE: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)
Hey Rick, The only difference I have seen is the ability to open password protected stacks. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Rick Harrison via use-livecode Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 11:36 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Rick Harrison Subject: Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-) Hi Ralph, It looks to me that they did it this way because there isn’t any automatic way to check for a valid license the same way as the paid version of LiveCode works. As you say, the commercial version of LC server lacks the GUI which would make that auto-validation step possible. A list of the differences between the community version and the commercial version would be useful so users can see what if anything they are missing by not having the paid version of LC. (It might be an incentive for those who do not yet have a paid version.) I have to download my new commercial version and install it. Thanks, Rick > On Nov 20, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode > wrote: > > There is no license registration for LC server because there is no GUI. You > only have the rights to use the commercial server if you have paid version of > LC. This way only account holders with the proper license can download the > commercial server. > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > -Original Message- > From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On > Behalf Of Rick Harrison via use-livecode > Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 10:28 AM > To: How to use LiveCode > Cc: Rick Harrison > Subject: Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish > of on-rev :-) > > Hi Matthias, > > I have been downloading everything from the downloads page for so long that I > hardly ever visit my Livecode account page. Apparently now there is a > separate tab just for server which has a password attached. Why this appears > to be the exception to the rule of getting everything from the downloads page > is anyone’s guess. > > Is there any difference between the > community version and the commercial > version of server other than the license? > Where would I find a list of those > differences if it exists somewhere? > > Thank you for getting back to me! > > Rick > >> On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> Rick, >> >> if you have an Indy or Business license of Livecode , then you should find >> the commercial license of LcServer in your Livcode account. >> >> Regards, >> >> Matthias > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-)
There is no license registration for LC server because there is no GUI. You only have the rights to use the commercial server if you have paid version of LC. This way only account holders with the proper license can download the commercial server. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Rick Harrison via use-livecode Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 10:28 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Rick Harrison Subject: Re: Rant on my favourite topics : LC server with a side-dish of on-rev :-) Hi Matthias, I have been downloading everything from the downloads page for so long that I hardly ever visit my Livecode account page. Apparently now there is a separate tab just for server which has a password attached. Why this appears to be the exception to the rule of getting everything from the downloads page is anyone’s guess. Is there any difference between the community version and the commercial version of server other than the license? Where would I find a list of those differences if it exists somewhere? Thank you for getting back to me! Rick > On Nov 19, 2017, at 5:05 PM, Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode > wrote: > > Rick, > > if you have an Indy or Business license of Livecode , then you should find > the commercial license of LcServer in your Livcode account. > > Regards, > > Matthias ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Testing Bandwidth with new TSNet Functions
Sannyasin, This is what I'm going to try to deal with the moving in/out of services issues. I have not done this yet but will try in the next week or 2. 1) Talk to my web service and see if there is a reasonably fast connection. 2) If so then use asynchronous TSNet to download data in the background with a callback. 3) Set a timer to keep checking the latency of the web service every second or so until the data transfer is complete. 4) Cancel the timer in the callback when TSNet completes. 5) If at any time during the TSNet transfer the ping to the server is too slow then cancel the transfer and notify the user the data connection is either too slow or nonexistent at this time. That's all I got.... Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:52 PM To: How LiveCode Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami Subject: Testing Bandwidth with new TSNet Functions Someone suggested we could test bandwidth by getting the milliseconds before calling a ping.txt file on our server (contains one word "true") and then check the milliseconds after getting the result and we might use this to determine if the bandwidth was sufficient for streaming content from the web server. Some very, very big "million dollar" apps are surprisingly "brutal" about this… Spotify, for example, even if I am on 3G and able to get a web page on Safari in my iPhone 7… will simply throw up It's broken connection icon (pretty ugly, whole screen display) and not even bother to "say anything" to the user. FlipBoard, the "super access to all the publications in some large universe" simply fails on startup if you are offline when you boot, they don't even give the user the courtesy of a notification that they are off line. OK well I take that back.. not at least they tell you to turn off airplane mode… but if on super low 3G the app just becomes non-functional stopping cold on the splash screen, again, not even bothering to tell the user anything. Our SivaSiva app has a mix of content resident in the app and content we call dynamically, so I need a more robust/gracefulway to deal with users walking from 4 bars strong LTE at the coffee shop to 1 blip 3G connection as they walk down the street to the bus, and then back up with 5bars Wi-Fi at home or office. Currently my ping-the-server method is to see if I can get the ping file, but fetching a ping.txt with only 4 chars data, tends to work, even in low bandwidth situations, this "fools" the app into thinking it has a connection, but if they try to then look at a video in the browser widget from YouTube, or load an image heavy page (our blog) or call some painting/artwork into an image object… the browser widget just "goes white" -- (a bug IMHO), because I can/do put up a loading gif on the card, but the browser widget takes over and "hangs on blank" waiting for the GET connection go pull enough data to start rendering and I have no way to tell the user their bandwidth is too low. So this just make the app look like it failed or is "super slow." That's the back story: I know TS Net has some functions along these lines, before I dive in from ground zero and flail around this issue, can anyone share what they are using/doing to deal with variable bandwidth? What is working for you and a few snippets would be greatly appreciated. Brahmanathaswami www.himalayanacademy.com<http://www.himalayanacademy.com> Get the SivaSiva App today (for iPhone and iPad) https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sivasiva/id1271260502?mt=8 (Android Pending HQ's Solution to some Engineering Issues) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Specialty Fonts on Mobile -- OK? or Stay Away?
Brahmanathaswami, I have had no problems using TT and OT fonts on both mobile platforms. I put them into a folder and include that folder in the "Standalone Settings" "Copy Files" pane. Type 1 fonts are not supported. TT and OT fonts work well. You have to rename the extension of OTF fonts from .otf to .ttf. OTF fonts work after the extension rename. Bug Report 12431 Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 12:34 PM To: How LiveCode Cc: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami Subject: Specialty Fonts on Mobile -- OK? or Stay Away? We have a new UI/UX designer working in Sketch/Invision/Zeplin which is a marvelous universe for design collaboration, and getting from her designs to a card layout in LC is easy enough. But she has chosen to use a font called KohinoorDevanagari which not only has Devanagari script but a very lovely roman font that will looks lovely, sans serif, very clear and efficient in terms of chars per inch and legibility on tight line heights I have never, ever use the font bundling option with Livecode, but besides this one I have need of some other specialty fonts/scripts for specific modules. But this KohinoorDevanagari is everywhere, , which she has used for every label, button, control, text field, menu in the UI. My question is this: for those have tried using specialty fonts on mobile. Does it work well for you across platforms? My "gut" instinct is telling me to stay with native fonts, but I can't tell if that is just my resistance to the added complexity and additional overhead talking. What say you? "No problem go for it -- with any nice font you like." OR "Nope, I tried that, you don't want to go down that path because…. A,B,C…" Brahmanathaswami www.himalayanacademy.com<http://www.himalayanacademy.com> Get the SivaSiva App today (for iPhone and iPad) https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/sivasiva/id1271260502?mt=8 (Android Pending) ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant
> Richard Gaskin wrote: >Zuckerberg keeps tape over his laptop camera. Who doesn't? I had mine on for so long that when I was a speaker at RR Global I had a heck of a time getting it off and cleaning the lenses. I also cover all mobile devices front facing camera. I keep the back facing one open and make sure the device is face up when I put it down. Too many fleeting nature pics to keep the back one covered. And I can't imagine having a smart phone or any internet connect device the bedroom. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
IOS simulator/ iPhone X and Xcode Mobile Pref Order
iOS developers FYI: If you have more than one Xcode on the Mobile Prefs make sure that the last one in the most recent. I had Xcode 9 as the first and then added the older ones. When the simulator fired up from LC there was no option for iPhone X. I then closed down everything and started the simulator from Xcode 9 and the iPhone X was there. I then started up LC and it froze when "Configuring Simulator". This required a force quit to get out of. After I re-arranged the Prefs so that Xcode 9 was last on the list I restarted LC, Clicked the test button, iPhone iOS 11 started up with an older phone model. I selected the iPhone X(now an option), shutdown the older simulator device, clicked the test button again and the iPhone X was up and running my app. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant
I have 1 Mac, 1 PC with 4 VMs and 5 mobile devices minimum at my desk. One of them kept whistling every so often, it was like a cat call, very creepy. It was so quick I could never figure which device or why. Then one day I decided to play a word with my wife on one of those scrabble games while working and she responded instantly with a word and I heard that d**m whistle. Looked at all the devices and found that I had installed and logged into the scrabble game back when I first got the tablet and its notification indicator is a whistle. Let me tell you I had more than one conspiracy theory going for the better part of a year until I put 2 + 2 together the fateful day I decided to goof-off at work... Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 2:04 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Bob Sneidar Subject: Re: Was I hallucinating? Totally OT, perhaps relevant Well if it's spyware, why would they announce themselves? Bob S > On Nov 8, 2017, at 10:51 , prothero--- via use-livecode > wrote: > > Bob, > No I don’t. But this did get me thinking about the spyware developed to > listen in on people’s smart phone microphone without the owner being logged > in. Especially by intelligence agencies, but who would be interested in a > retire Santa Barbara faculty member. I will get on bitdefender’s list with > this question. > > Bill > > William Prothero > http://es.earthednet.org ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: iPhone X or "Apple is just the most annoying company of all time"
FYI: While doing the iPhone X screen shots for iTunes Connect I realized that the iPhone X is much more "portraitity" than any other device I have run across. I have some serious re-working to do. The iPhone X aspect ratio is something like 19:9 where the iPhone 8 is more-or-less a standard 16:9. Brings me back to when I hand filed aperture plates for half-frame-flat movie projection. FYI: iOS developers. iPhone X Dimensions Portrait 1125px × 2436px (375pt × 812pt @3x) Landscape 2436px × 1125px (812pt × 375pt @3x) I compiled the safe areas in points and pixels for iPhone X: Portrait right side up safe area margins: Left: 0 Top: 44 Pts 132 Pixels Right: 0 Bottom: 34 Pts 102 Pixels Portrait upside down: NOT SUPPORTED Landscape left/right safe area margins: Left: 16 Pts 48 Pixels Top: 32 Pts 96 Pixels Right: 16 Pts 48 Pixels Bottom: 23 Pts 69 Pixels Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Xcode 9.1 support
This seems to happen if you put a recent SDK(9.0) in LC 8.1.7 and then open up LC 8.1.2. The newer unsupported SDK in the prefs will be automatically deleted without warning by 8.1.2. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ben Rubinstein via use-livecode Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 2:05 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: Ben Rubinstein Subject: Re: Xcode 9.1 support On this topic... has anyone else noticed in switching between versions of LC that it can knock out the settings for selected Xcode? On 06/11/2017 11:55, panagiotis merakos via use-livecode wrote: > Hi Henry, > > Xcode 9.1 support will be added in LiveCode 8.1.8 RC-1, which we plan to > release within this week. > > Best regards, > Panos > -- > > On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 7:03 PM, hlowe via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> There has been a serious performance issue (related to OpenGL) with the iOS >> simulators under Xcode 9.0, to the point that they are so slow as to be >> unusable for testing. This has been widely commented on elsewhere and is >> not >> an LC-related problem. >> >> This issue is now fixed in Xcode 9.1, released today. However LC 8.1.7 >> (stable) does not support Xcode 9.1. When I try to point LC 8.1.7 towards >> Xcode 9.1 is declines to link, claiming "The chosen folder is not a valid >> iOS SDK". >> >> Do we need an update to obtain compatibility with Xcode 9.1? If so, would >> it >> be possible to get this out soon as I have had to suspend testing of iOS >> apps under development because of the simulator issues when using Xcode 9.0 >> and 9.0.1. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Henry >> >> Ascriva Healthcare Informatics >> >> https://www.ascriva.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Xcode 9.1 support
Panos, Thanks for the update. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 From: panagiotis merakos [mailto:merak...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 11:18 AM To: rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Cc: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Xcode 9.1 support Hi Ralph, >>>>Will iPhone X users be able to see and install current LC apps from the >>>>iStore? Yes, I don't see a reason why not to. >>>>If so what icon/screenshots will they see? You mean in the AppStore? I guess the screenshots you would have submitted. >>>>>Also when installed what icons/splash screen will the iPhone X use? If you don't provide a splash screen for a newer screen size (in your LC app), then the OS presumes that your app hasn't been updated to support that screen resolution and so runs it in a compatibility mode at the largest size you do have a splash screen for. You can try it on the iPhone X simulator to see how your app will look like. Hope this helps, Panos — On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: Panos, Thanks! Will iPhone X users be able to see and install current LC apps from the iStore? If so what icon/screenshots will they see? Also when installed what icons/splash screen will the iPhone X use? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: panagiotis merakos [mailto:merak...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 11:02 AM To: rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Cc: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Xcode 9.1 support Hi Ralph, No, unfortunately 8.1.8 RC-1 will not have support for this. I have filed an enhancement request so as we add that in the future. http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20641 Best, Panos -- On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: Panos, Thanks for the update! Will 8.1.8 RC-1 have iOS support for iPhone X icons and splash screens? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 6:55 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: panagiotis merakos Subject: Re: Xcode 9.1 support Hi Henry, Xcode 9.1 support will be added in LiveCode 8.1.8 RC-1, which we plan to release within this week. Best regards, Panos -- On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 7:03 PM, hlowe via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > There has been a serious performance issue (related to OpenGL) with > the iOS simulators under Xcode 9.0, to the point that they are so slow > as to be unusable for testing. This has been widely commented on > elsewhere and is not an LC-related problem. > > This issue is now fixed in Xcode 9.1, released today. However LC 8.1.7 > (stable) does not support Xcode 9.1. When I try to point LC 8.1.7 > towards Xcode 9.1 is declines to link, claiming "The chosen folder is > not a valid iOS SDK". > > Do we need an update to obtain compatibility with Xcode 9.1? If so, > would it be possible to get this out soon as I have had to suspend > testing of iOS apps under development because of the simulator issues > when using Xcode 9.0 and 9.0.1. > > Thanks, > > Henry > > Ascriva Healthcare Informatics > > https://www.ascriva.com > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ > Revolution-User-f278306.html > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Xcode 9.1 support
Panos, Thanks! Will iPhone X users be able to see and install current LC apps from the iStore? If so what icon/screenshots will they see? Also when installed what icons/splash screen will the iPhone X use? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: panagiotis merakos [mailto:merak...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 11:02 AM To: rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Cc: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: Xcode 9.1 support Hi Ralph, No, unfortunately 8.1.8 RC-1 will not have support for this. I have filed an enhancement request so as we add that in the future. http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20641 Best, Panos -- On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 3:37 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: Panos, Thanks for the update! Will 8.1.8 RC-1 have iOS support for iPhone X icons and splash screens? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 6:55 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: panagiotis merakos Subject: Re: Xcode 9.1 support Hi Henry, Xcode 9.1 support will be added in LiveCode 8.1.8 RC-1, which we plan to release within this week. Best regards, Panos -- On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 7:03 PM, hlowe via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > There has been a serious performance issue (related to OpenGL) with > the iOS simulators under Xcode 9.0, to the point that they are so slow > as to be unusable for testing. This has been widely commented on > elsewhere and is not an LC-related problem. > > This issue is now fixed in Xcode 9.1, released today. However LC 8.1.7 > (stable) does not support Xcode 9.1. When I try to point LC 8.1.7 > towards Xcode 9.1 is declines to link, claiming "The chosen folder is > not a valid iOS SDK". > > Do we need an update to obtain compatibility with Xcode 9.1? If so, > would it be possible to get this out soon as I have had to suspend > testing of iOS apps under development because of the simulator issues > when using Xcode 9.0 and 9.0.1. > > Thanks, > > Henry > > Ascriva Healthcare Informatics > > https://www.ascriva.com > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ > Revolution-User-f278306.html > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Xcode 9.1 support
Panos, Thanks for the update! Will 8.1.8 RC-1 have iOS support for iPhone X icons and splash screens? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Sent: Monday, November 06, 2017 6:55 AM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: panagiotis merakos Subject: Re: Xcode 9.1 support Hi Henry, Xcode 9.1 support will be added in LiveCode 8.1.8 RC-1, which we plan to release within this week. Best regards, Panos -- On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 7:03 PM, hlowe via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > There has been a serious performance issue (related to OpenGL) with > the iOS simulators under Xcode 9.0, to the point that they are so slow > as to be unusable for testing. This has been widely commented on > elsewhere and is not an LC-related problem. > > This issue is now fixed in Xcode 9.1, released today. However LC 8.1.7 > (stable) does not support Xcode 9.1. When I try to point LC 8.1.7 > towards Xcode 9.1 is declines to link, claiming "The chosen folder is > not a valid iOS SDK". > > Do we need an update to obtain compatibility with Xcode 9.1? If so, > would it be possible to get this out soon as I have had to suspend > testing of iOS apps under development because of the simulator issues > when using Xcode 9.0 and 9.0.1. > > Thanks, > > Henry > > Ascriva Healthcare Informatics > > https://www.ascriva.com > > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ > Revolution-User-f278306.html > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: results of SPLIT when keys not unique
I wyyy over thought this. This is tested: SELECT animals.animalnumber, animals.animalname FROM animals GROUP BY animals.animalname; Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: Dr. Hawkins [mailto:doch...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 6:49 PM To: rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Cc: How to use LiveCode Subject: Re: results of SPLIT when keys not unique On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 3:45 PM, Ralph DiMola wrote: > Whoops, not tested and I saw an error. > > Select mytable.animalname,mytable.animalnumber from (select distinct > mytable.animalname from mytable as mytable2) left join mytable on > mytable.animalname = mytable2animalname > You just shot *way* over my SQL :) does that last line search for any mytable.animalname that occurs in mytable2.animalname? (and if it's that easy, why in the world isn't DISTINCT ON part of SQLite??? thanks -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: results of SPLIT when keys not unique
Whoops, not tested and I saw an error. Select mytable.animalname,mytable.animalnumber from (select distinct mytable.animalname from mytable as mytable2) left join mytable on mytable.animalname = mytable2animalname Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 6:24 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Dr. Hawkins Subject: results of SPLIT when keys not unique If I use split such that keys are not unique, will that have the effect of filtering out duplicates? For example, if I have dog 3 dog 5 cat 8 and SPLIT it, will I end up with 5 in entry dog? More specifically, is this a defined behavior, or "just how it currently works" I'm trying to find a quick & clean way around SQLite's lack of "DISTINCT ON"--I need to keep those numbered keys attached to work with, and DISTINCT alone won't due that. -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: results of SPLIT when keys not unique
Would something like this work? Select mytable.animalname,mytable.animalnumber from (select distinct mytable.animal from mytable as mytable2) left join mytable on mytable.animalname = mytable2animalname Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Hawkins via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 6:24 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Dr. Hawkins Subject: results of SPLIT when keys not unique If I use split such that keys are not unique, will that have the effect of filtering out duplicates? For example, if I have dog 3 dog 5 cat 8 and SPLIT it, will I end up with 5 in entry dog? More specifically, is this a defined behavior, or "just how it currently works" I'm trying to find a quick & clean way around SQLite's lack of "DISTINCT ON"--I need to keep those numbered keys attached to work with, and DISTINCT alone won't due that. -- Dr. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. (702) 508-8462 ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
iPhone X or "Apple is just the most annoying company of all time"
1. iPhone X has rounded corners and an annoying "tab" at the top and the
fact that there is no home button. Users will swipe up from the bottom to
get back to the home page. This may cause an issue for apps with buttons
towards the bottom of the screen.
2. Apps that have an edge-to-edge design will have issues with the rounded
corners. And the "annoying tab" at the top.
3. Developers sites recommend a "Safe Zone". ("Safe Zone" Really??? I
feel I'm back to the 1960s when framing shots for NTSC CRT TVs")
LC should have a Stand Alone Settings option to use only the safe zone for
the X. There should also be a separate "show status bar" options for the X.
This will allow existing apps to render without clipping on the X. We also
need a way to specify ions and splash pages for the X. These items along
with Xcode 9.1 support is needed ASAP.
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RE: Announcing our first Livecode app in the iOS App Store
Congrats! I remember the exhilaration I had after I made it through the Apple gauntlet. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of hlowe via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 3:28 PM To: use-revolut...@lists.runrev.com Cc: hlowe Subject: Announcing our first Livecode app in the iOS App Store I am excited to announce the release of Ascriva Health Informatics' first app for iPhone and iPad in the App Store. The app was developed using Livecode. Many thanks for the knowledge and support that I have received here as we worked towards this first product release. ICD-10-CM is the classification system used to code diagnoses and reasons for healthcare encounters in the United States. The ICD-10-CM-2018 app allows healthcare providers to quickly find diagnosis codes, create a library of frequently-used codes and automatically search the Web for related information. To celebrate the launch of the app, it is available for FREE in the App Store until November 8. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/icd-10-cm-2018/id1296363233 Best wishes, Henry https://www.ascriva.com -- Sent from: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Revolution-User-f278306.html ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Autosaving stacks corrupted on network drives
True, The stack is not open after it's read into memory. I can see why/why not this is done from a LC point of view. If the stack is being read in from a web server it's not possible to lock it. If the file is local/network then the stack could remain open and locked for write. Other processes could then open/read it but not save it. This looks like it's been around for a long time. Could locking stack(s) break existing projects? I vote to lock for write any open stacks. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:13 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Bob Sneidar Subject: Re: Autosaving stacks corrupted on network drives Okay I think I see what is going on here. A Livecode stack, though it appears to be open in the IDE, is NOT open from the OS point of view. To test this, create a new livecode stack, save it, then attempt to delete it in the OS while it's still open in the IDE. If my theory is correct, you should have no problem doing so. I did this and sure enough, I was able to put the file in the trash, AND THEN EMPTY IT! But when I saved again in the IDE, it recreated the file. Bob S > On Oct 25, 2017, at 09:26 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode wrote: > > Now if what you're suggesting is that the server OS should manage the > access process so that you cannot have two simultaneous accesses, I > would agree, but my experience has been that it doesn't always work that way. > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Mike Kerner > > wrote: > >> I'm saying that it is possible to access the same file from the same >> share from multiple machines and leave the file in an indeterminate >> or corrupted state, afterwards, especially if both machines accessing >> the share are trying to save changes to said file. The purpose of >> the semaphore would be to stop the simultaneous access of the file from multiple machines. >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 11:54 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >>> I thought the OS takes care of that. Are we saying that when saving >>> to a network share this process of creating the semaphore file does not happen? >>> >>> Bob S >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 16:01 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode < >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Possible solutions: >>>> 1) Do what LibreOffice does. Create an invisible semaphore file >>>> that >>> the >>>> stack checks for on open. If it exists, the open is rejected and >>>> the >>> stack >>>> immediately closes. This will keep secondary and simultaneous >>>> users >>> from >>>> getting their grubby paws into the stack before the save/sync is >>> complete. >>>> As part of this solution, I would suggest any quit/closeStack event >>>> has >>> a >>>> built in delay to confirm that the sync/save has completed before >>> removing >>>> the semaphore. This is still tricky as you are at the mercy of the >>>> sync/save tool, however, if you're clever, you can use the >>>> service's >>> api to >>>> check, separately, if the sync/save is complete before you let LC >>>> finish closing down. >>>> 2) Split the data out into a separate data file or better into a >>> database >>>> (because most databases use transactions, with greatly minimizes >>>> the probability of corruption). >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-livecode mailing list >>> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second >> day, God created the oceans. >> On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, >> and did a little diving. >> And God said, "This is good." >> > > > > -- > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second > day, God created the oceans. > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, > and did a little diving. > And God said, "This is
RE: Need an Applescript Expert
Shake some dust off from my Acrobat JavaScript days...
I think you will have to open the document. You are in a new instance of
Acrobat without an currently open document.
Ralph DiMola
IT Director
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-Original Message-
From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf
Of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 6:57 PM
To: How to use LiveCode
Cc: Bob Sneidar
Subject: Need an Applescript Expert
Hi all.
When populating forms on a Macintosh, I figured out a nice little hack which
allows me to populate a fillable form with values using AppleScript. The
trick is to tell Applescript to tell Acrobat to run a Javascript! Seems a
little convoluted but it works great.
So I discovered recently that Applescript can run Javascript natively!
Great. I figured I would bypass applescript and pass javascript directly!
But I've run ingo a snag. Here is a quick sample of what works:
tell application "/Applications/Adobe Acrobat DC/Adobe Acrobat.app"
set theScript to "this.getField(\"technotes\").value = \"This is only a
test. \";"
do script theScript
end tell
Don't let the backslash quotes trip you up I am just escapting quote
characters. Now the Javascript version *should* look like this but it does
NOT work!
Acrobat = Application('Adobe Acrobat');
Acrobat.activate();
delay(1);
this.getField("technotes").value = "This is only a test.";
I get an error that this.getField is undefined! Wha??? Why does it work
as an applescript command then??
Bob S
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RE: Save file dialogs...
In Windows you can add a hook into the open/save file dialogs. You get call backs for various events including changing the file type. I don’t know about Mac/Linux but I would assume the same(but different) facilities exist. Accessing the windows hooks would of course require changes to the engine. In Windows you can also get a callback when the user clicks the save/open/cancel before the dialog is closed. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Brian Milby via use-livecode Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 12:32 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Brian Milby Subject: Re: Save file dialogs... One option would be to leave the extension off when initially presented to the user. Then add the correct extension before saving if the user did not manually add one. It is probably a little more complicated than that though... unless the user has their OS set to display extensions, they may not be presented with them normally. I’m not sure if that is detectable from within LC though. At least on Mac this would require a change in the engine source to have extensions change in the dialog. On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 9:54 AM Paul Dupuis via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > In our application we often provide our customers with the ability to > save information in a variety of formats using a code snippet such as: > > put "YourData.txt" into tDefaultFileName > put "Save some data as:" into tPrompt > put the defaultFolder &slash& tDefaultFileName into tDefaultFilePath > put "Plain Text|txt"&cr&"Rich Text|rtf"&cr&"Microsoft Word|docx" > into tTypes > ask file tPrompt with tDefaultFilePath with type tTypes > put it & cr & the result into fld 1 > > Note that "it" contains the file path and "the result" contains the > type selected (Plain Text, Word, RTF, whatever) > > It has been pointed out that most other application, on either OSX or > Windows, in a save file dialog, dynamically change the file extension > when a different type is selected from the save file popup menu. For > example, in the above code, if the use is initially presented with > "YourData.txt" and "Plain Text" as the type. If the user selected > "Microsoft Word" the extension presented in the dialog is not changed > to .docx dynamically. This does happen in most other commercial > applications (i.e. MS Word). > > You do get back the chosen type in the result, but only after the > dialog has been closed. You can use this to change the extension after > the fact, but apparently not dynamically. > > This behavior exists in at least 6.7.11 through 8.1.6 under both OSX > and Windows > > Questions for the community AND/OR the LiveCode mothership: > > 1) Is this a "bug"? > > 2) Is there any work around (like a secret callback message) to detect > when the popup type menu has been changed to dynamically update the > presented file name's extension? > > 3) Has anyone else in the community run into this and cares about it > or are my customers just being way to picky? > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Mobile Device Physical Size
On Richards talk yesterday I brought this up and I am moving it to the list. Say you have 3 Android devices: 1) Phone sized. 2) Note sized. 3) Tablet sized. It is entirely possible that these 3 devices have the same(or close) number x/y of pixels. How can I determine the physical size of mobile devices? Web browsers are able to determine the device size or at least a phone vs. tablet. I would like to change the screen layout based on the physical size. I can determine a phone vs. tablet for Apple devices because of the limited number of iOS devices. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: not really OT: The Coming Software Apocalypse
>For many years, we have seen in this mail list (and previous mail list) how developers are completely baffled by applications that run fine in most computers, but fail >consistently in a very few machines. Check the archives. You will find many instances of this scenario. How it is that possible at all? This is possible because all current consumer OSs have the same problems outlined in the article. I don't usually pontificate on this list but... As humans we constantly overreach without thinking. As Jeff Goldblum said in Jurassic Park said "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could they didn't stop to think if they should." This is the story with all consumer OSs. Just because these rudimentary OSs in the 90s could somewhat be a tool for the average Joe no one stopped to think if they should. We have allowed PC OSs/mobile devices and most pointedly the Internet to become the lynch-pins of modern society, also because of the "Jeff Goldblum" theorem. Look at Puerto Rico if want proof. Just because they could build cell towers in PR... As Claude Rains said in Casablanca "I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling in going on in here" A cat 4 hit PR in 1932 and when I heard that 1,360 out of 1,600 of PR's Cells towers were either damaged or blown over by cat 4 Irma and folks were panicking with no internet/access to credit card processing and the FakeBook I said to myself "I'm shocked that a cat 4 hit PR". I feel sorry for the human suffering and the government let this happen but I'm not surprised. Wait till a CME(Carrington event 1859) or EMP(rocket man) wipes out the electrical grid and internet for a billion or so people for a year... I'll be sitting with my gravity fed water well water and rifle across my lap saying "I'm shocked that" Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: IPad Mini reports "not supported
I ran into this and had to de-select the GPS and only select Location Services to make the app available on non-GPS devices. I can still get lat/lon cords. What I am unclear about is if the GPS chip is used on devices that have them. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Bell via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2017 2:07 PM To: use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Cc: and...@midwestcoastmedia.com Subject: Re: IPad Mini reports "not supported I've been having a similar problem with an app that I just never got around to debugging. After looking at that device compatibility matrix, I think my problem is that GPS is selected as a required provision (trying to get latitude/longitude from user when a certain function is executed). Is it safe to assume removing GPS from Required but instead adding Location Services will allow this app to install on iPads AND still give me latitude/longitude? --Andrew Bell > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:05:09 +0100 > From: panagiotis merakos > To: How to use LiveCode > Subject: Re: IPad Mini reports "not supported > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > The camera-flash in not supported on any of the iPad minis, or the > iPad > 12.9 inch. > > See these tables: > > https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/DeviceInform > ation/Reference/iOSDeviceCompatibility/DeviceCompatibilityMatrix/Devic > eCompatibilityMatrix.html > > So removing "camera-flash" from the requirements section of the iOS > Standalone Settings should fix the problem. > > Best, > Panos > -- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [ANN] IPA Build Tool for iOS
Correct, all testers UUIDs must be added to the provisioning profile. There a limit of 100/year. You can only delete old ones after your yearly developer renewal. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of William Prothero via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 3:55 PM To: Use-livecode Use-livecode Cc: William Prothero Subject: Re: [ANN] IPA Build Tool for iOS Sean: Thanks for the app. It should come in useful. I assume that the provisioning file created in the Apple Developer site (for beta testers) must contain the ID info of every device that it must run on, if it is not distributed through the app store?? I am writing several apps that will need significant beta testing, so I will be distributing them directly. Best, Bill P > On Sep 27, 2017, at 7:43 AM, Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode wrote: > > Hi LC Community, > > I needed to create IPAs of my iOS software so that I could upload them > to my website for Enterprise distribution but all the old tools for > doing this have been deprecated by Apple. So I've created this simple > one to meet Apple's new standard way to produce them. Simply extract > it into your LiveCode plugins folder and you will be able to open it > from the LC menu, > Development>Plugins>IPA_Builder. Let me know if you have any problems > Development>Plugins>with > it. > > https://livecode.pidigital.co.uk/IPA_Builder.zip > > Sean Cole > *Pi Digital Productions Ltd* > www.pidigital.co.uk > 'Don't try to think outside the box. Just remember the truth: There is > no box!' > 'For then you realise it is not the box you are trying to look outside > of, but it is yourself!' > > eMail Ts & Cs <http://pidigital.co.uk/emailTCs.rtf> Pi Digital > Productions Ltd is a UK registered limited company, no. 5255609 > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: A modest proposal for a new property
How would you use the alpha channel to do this? I just had an image and the transparent part of the image did not send a mouseup message. I put a button behind the image to solve it. Was there a way I could have used the alpha channel to get the mouseup message anywhere in the image and still retain the transparency? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Colin Holgate via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 1:18 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Colin Holgate Subject: Re: A modest proposal for a new property How do you currently set the alpha channel? The hit area icon I was suggesting could be an image with the alpha channel that the button uses. That way you could have any shape hit area, it wouldn’t have to be based on the button’s icon. > On Sep 26, 2017, at 1:14 PM, Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Colin Holgate write: > > > The way that this problem is handled in sort other tools is to have > > a definable hit area for each control (usually those would be buttons). > > You can set the idle, over, and pressed versions of the button’s > > image, and also you can set the hit area image. > > > > LiveCode already has a way to do most of that, couldn’t the hit area > > be another entry I the inspector’s icons section? > > Where would one obtain the list of polygon points? > > Currently the hit region is definable using the alpha channel. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Converting iOS app build to .ipa file (latest iTunes update stops you doing this)
Terry, Open up the "devices" window in Xcode and you will see all the iOS devices connected via USB. You can drag in .app files and also add/delete using the "+" and "-" symbols. You can also create a .ipa by putting the .app into a Payload folder and zipping it up and renaming it like you said. Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Terry Judd via use-livecode Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:33 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Terry Judd Subject: Re: Converting iOS app build to .ipa file (latest iTunes update stops you doing this) Hi Colin – I’m not that familiar with Xcode (apart from occasionally using it to manage profiles). Very briefly, what do I need to do to get started there. Terry... On 14/09/2017 8:49 am, "use-livecode on behalf of Colin Holgate via use-livecode" wrote: You can use Xcode to drag apps onto connected devices. It works with .app as well as .ipa. Apple have a configurator app. It also works with LiveCode .app: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apple-configurator-2/id1037126344?mt=12 <https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/apple-configurator-2/id1037126344?mt=12> > On Sep 13, 2017, at 3:14 PM, Terry Judd via use-livecode wrote: > > I’ve always just created a .ipa file from my LC iOS app builds by dragging them into iTunes and then back out again. Now Apple has gone and removed apps from the latest version of iTunes (which appears to have automatically updated on my Mac) and I’m left without a way to do this. Are there any easy alternatives? > > For example will putting the app in a folder called ‘Payload’, zipping it and renaming it as a .ipa file work or is there some extra stuff than happens as part of the .app to .ipa conversion? > > And on a related note. Now that iTunes is out of the picture, are there any other simple tools that I can use to move apps onto an off a number of devices? I have a set of about 50 iPads that I build apps for but I’ve always just managed these using iTunes as most of the dedicated apps like Configurator are overkill for what I need to do. > > Terry... > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: Debug java on Mobile Browser
Ali, Using Chrome/Android Although the device shows in dev tools and I have an LC app using the mobile browser open on the device I don't see the URL of the page like you do if you open Chrome on the device. Using Chrome on the device remote debugging works great. The dev tools does not see the instance of browser in LC. I am using the LC mobile browser. Should I be using the LC browser widget instead? Am I relegated to doing alerts all over the place? This was bad enough for LC(answers) before remote debugging. To debug java that works on desktop and IDE but fails in LC mobile doing alerts is a nightmare. Thanks for any insight... Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of Ali Lloyd via use-livecode Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 3:32 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: Ali Lloyd Subject: Re: Debug java on Mobile Browser You should be able to debug native web views on device/emulator on Android using Chrome and on device/simulator on iOS using Safari... admittedly I haven't tried this with a browser widget in LC, but I've done it recently on both in another context. On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 7:06 PM Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I have a web page that works in the IDE but fails on the device. When > it fails in the IDE I can use Chrome's dev tools and quickly find out > what's going wrong. On mobile there is no such option. Is there any > way to find out what's going on with java in the mobile browser on both iOS and Android? > > Ralph DiMola > IT Director > Evergreen Information Services > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
Debug java on Mobile Browser
I have a web page that works in the IDE but fails on the device. When it fails in the IDE I can use Chrome's dev tools and quickly find out what's going wrong. On mobile there is no such option. Is there any way to find out what's going on with java in the mobile browser on both iOS and Android? Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [ANN[ Release 8.1.7 RC-1
A re-download/re-install fixed it. Strange... Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net Phone: 518-636-3998 Ex:11 Cell: 518-796-9332 -Original Message- From: use-livecode [mailto:use-livecode-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos via use-livecode Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 12:13 PM To: How to use LiveCode Cc: panagiotis merakos Subject: Re: [ANN[ Release 8.1.7 RC-1 Hi Ralph, No, it should not, otherwise you would not be able to build device standalones using Xcode 8.3.x on Sierra. BTW I just checked and it is not empty for me (checked on Indy and Business). Maybe a failure during installation? Strange. Could you try to delete and reinstall? Best regards, Panos -- On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Ralph DiMola via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Panos, > > > > On Mac should the Tools/Runtime/iOS/Device-10_3 folder be empty? > > > > Thanks > > > > Ralph DiMola > > IT Director > > Evergreen Information Services > > rdim...@evergreeninfo.net > > > > From: livecode-dev [mailto:livecode-dev-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On > Behalf Of panagiotis merakos > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 10:46 AM > To: LiveCode Developer List > Subject: [ANN[ Release 8.1.7 RC-1 > > > > Dear list members, > > > > We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-1. > > > > Getting the Release > > === > > You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or > via the automatic updater. > > > > > > Release Contents > > > > > > LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-1 contains 34 bug fixes, as well as security and > stability improvements: > > > > - Several regressions have been fixed. > > - New version of tsNet (1.3.1) that addresses various network-related > bugs is included (Indy + Business edition) > > > > The full release notes are available from: > > http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_7/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_7_rc_1. > pdf > > > > > > Feedback > > > > Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at > > http://quality.livecode.com/ > > > > > > Have fun! > > The LiveCode Team > > -- > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode > ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
RE: [ANN[ Release 8.1.7 RC-1
Panos, On Mac should the Tools/Runtime/iOS/Device-10_3 folder be empty? Thanks Ralph DiMola IT Director Evergreen Information Services rdim...@evergreeninfo.net From: livecode-dev [mailto:livecode-dev-boun...@lists.runrev.com] On Behalf Of panagiotis merakos Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 10:46 AM To: LiveCode Developer List Subject: [ANN[ Release 8.1.7 RC-1 Dear list members, We are pleased to announce the release of LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-1. Getting the Release === You can get the release at https://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/ or via the automatic updater. Release Contents LiveCode 8.1.7 RC-1 contains 34 bug fixes, as well as security and stability improvements: - Several regressions have been fixed. - New version of tsNet (1.3.1) that addresses various network-related bugs is included (Indy + Business edition) The full release notes are available from: http://downloads.livecode.com/livecode/8_1_7/LiveCodeNotes-8_1_7_rc_1.pdf Feedback Please report any bugs encountered on our BugZilla at http://quality.livecode.com/ Have fun! The LiveCode Team -- ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode
