Re: Drag-And-Drop Image Fun
Dear Robert, Thank you for your reply: On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 10:59 PM, Robert Brenstein wrote: I think if you search list archives for DragDrop you will find an example of dragging a text or text field. I have been able to successfully work with drag-and-drop with text, but not with PICTURES. My original posting, in regards to the 2 problems I encountered with drag-and-drop: PROBLEM 1: I'm having trouble dragging IMAGE information. I want to allow the user to drag an image onto an 'imageWell' object. I'M STARTING THE DRAG INSIDE REVOLUTION, and the dragSource is an image object. The imageWell is another image object, and should accept the drag if there is image information in the dragged object (the dragData). Upon drop, the imageWell should display the image. My problem is that the documentation is a bit unclear as to WHAT exactly it is that I should be putting into the dragData[image]. The documentation merely states the the dragData[image] should contain 'an image in PNG format'. So, here is what I tried: a) Make new stack. Place a ',png' image in it (our 'source'), and place an 'empty' image object somewhere else in the card (our 'target' object) - which will be our 'imageWell'. b) In the source image, as per instructions in the language guide, I added the following script: on mouseDown set the dragData[image] to me end mouseDown c) In the target image, I added the following script: on dragEnter if dragData[image' is not empty then set the showBorder of me to true end dragEnter on dragLeave set the showBorder of me to false end dragLeave on dragDrop put dragData[image] into me end dragDrop This doesn't work. It appears that dragData[image] is empty, as there is no change in the appearance of the target image. So I tried changing mouseDown handler of the source image, so that what is stored is the 'imageData': on mouseDown set the dragData[image] to the imageData of me end mouseDown No change - except that it does something nasty to Revolution (changes cursors, slows it down) and I have to quite and re-launch... I cannot find any other hints in the documentation as to what it is that I should be doing. Could anyone shed some light? PROBLEM 2: In MacOS X, when a user drags an item, there is usually quite a bit of visual feedback given to the user. When a user is dragging something, there is usually a transparent image right underneath the cursor, giving the user some visual hint as to WHAT is being dragged. It seems to me that in RunRev, the only visual feedback we can give the user is by changing the cursor image... Is that correct? - or would there be a way to drag a custom 'transparent image', like in OS X, while dragging between windows and applications? Any suggestions or hints on either problem much appreciated. -- Igor de Oliveira Couto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drag-And-Drop Image Fun
I have been able to successfully work with drag-and-drop with text, but not with PICTURES. My original posting, in regards to the 2 problems I encountered with drag-and-drop: Hi Igor I've asked on this list to jan Schenkel to write a nioce code for drag 'n drop for text, from one fld to another. I gave us a wonderful code, with a fantastic user interface. Perhaps he could do the same with image ? Hey Jan, are you ready ??? -- Greetings. Yves COPPE Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reporting tool
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 11:42 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 08:41 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Dan Shafer wrote: I agree with the analysis that it would be easier to create reports directly in Transcript than to try to mangle an external that would do so. However, if someone came up with a stack/app in Rev that handled most or all reporting functionality sufficiently generically and extensibly, I think it would be a world-beater of an app. I'd buy one for sure! Here's the deciding question: How _much_ would you pay? For the right tool? upwards of $100 depending on feature set, data source diversity, ease of use. I don't personally need this kind of tool for anything I'm currently working on but if I did, I'd say $100 for use either for myself or a limited non-commercial distribution (like for an in-company application). $1,000 for unlimited commercial distribution license in an application and something in between for smaller distribution apps like shareware. Bill Vlahos ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using Revolution for LARGE projects
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 03:47 AM, Igor Couto wrote: Dear Revolution Experts, I am considering using Revolution as a development tool in a large project, but am hesitant because of the apparent lack of complex applications made with Revolution - apart from Revolution itself. Most applications I've been able to locate on the web that are made with Revolution seem to be relatively small. Igor, I am using Revolution in a large project. I am building an expert system for facility planning and estimating of construction development projects for the National Park Service. NPS is the largest land-owning entity in the U.S. The app is a front end for a expert system software (CLIPS) which is called via shell() commands. (maybe will write an external for CLIPS eventually) My project stack file is ~5 MB in size, with one mainstack, 14 substacks, 3 script library stacks, 1 data stack. So there are LOTS of screens and stacks. Some of the stacks have ~ 40 cards. Some of the interesting features: -front end for 3rd party software -the user's responses preferences are saved in a Revolution data stack -printing reports printing screens -developing on Mac for a Win32 deliverable Having been using Revolution exclusively for about 7 months, I can tell you I am very happy with the decision. The revolution IDE is very fast and the IDE doesn't seem phased by having a 5MB project file. In fact, I continue to be amazed how fast Revolution saves such a large project. (approx 1.5 secs) That's impressive compared to some other IDEs I've used. The standalone apps are acceptable size, and run quick. They look nice on Mac and on Windows. There are very responsive email lists and developers at Runrev. I would NOT recommend REALbasic. I initially was developing this project in REALbasic and the result was passable, but it was very frustrating for me. Performance and aesthetics were not too good. Realbasic doesn't not have anything equivalent to the stacks and cards concept in Revolution. If your app has lots of screens, REALbasic will get very tedious. The IDE crashed a lot on me in REALbasic. Support was not to my satisfaction. Realbasic didn't have a Windows IDE until last month when they delivered it, apparently. But it's an extra license, I think. With Revolution if you are having a problem that is platform specific, you just install the IDE on that platform and debug it in real-time. No extra license required. So for your main questions: MANAGEABLE: for a large project with many screens and lots of code, revolution is superb. FAST: revolution is fast. Probably as fast as you are going to find in a cross-platform tool in my opinion. I don't know of any benchmarks- this is just subjective. Don't forget about programmer efficiency too! DATABASE: I can't answer about doing simultaneous database queries; I'm using a data stack instead of a relational database. I'm a big fan of PostgreSQL. Valentina is single-user, I think, so scratch that. MySQL is fast. Maybe look into the ODBC database support. In the Windows world, ODBC is very common and very easy to configure. Less so on Mac. RELIABLE: I don't think I have encountered any crashes or stability problems with the standalone engine (the built application) It just works! Revolution is based on Metacard, which has been developed over many years. Don't let the 2.0 version number deceive you about it's pedigree. Hope this helps, Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Sending files to the Trash
Howard, You can use AppleScript for this: tell application Finder move file filePath to trash end tell The key is to make sure you create a proper file path that AppleScript will accept (i.e. colon-delimited, not / delimited like Rev uses). So for example, my hard disk is named Stormwinds and I have OS X running on it, so my AppleScript would be: tell application Finder move file Stormwinds:Users:kenray:Desktop:Test.txt to trash end tell Hope this helps, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Bornstein Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 1:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sending files to the Trash Does anyone know a way to move files to the Trash or Recycle bin? The Delete File command deletes them directly, but if you want to give the user the chance to retrieve files you delete, it would make more sense to move them to the trash, like a normal OS operation. Is there a way to do this in Rev? Howard Bornstein D E S I G N E Q www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use- revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution 2.0 released
Hello, As some of you have already realized, 2.0 is has now shipped. (We were waiting to ensure the web site was ready for traffic before sending out all the official announcements.) We'd like to take this opportunity to thank this great community in supporting us through all the trials and tribulations of the gestation period, and we hope you find 2.0 worth the wait. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited: Software at the Speed of Thought Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
30 day trial for 2.0
Hi, We have now erased the 30 day trial information from our server to coincide with the Revolution 2.0 release. Anyone wanting to use the 30 day trial should download the current shipping version of Revolution (2.0r2) and obtain a new trial key from our web site. We won't be resetting the 30 day trial again for some time (it won't be reset for smaller updates in the future). Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited: Software at the Speed of Thought Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Download RR 2 ???
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 02:04 AM, Jan Schenkel wrote: Hi Manuel, Combined with your other reply, concerning the 'backup stack file' that couldn't be written ;the conclusion must be : file permissions. - Are you logged in as the 'administrator' of the machine ? - Where are you putting the files : your own 'Applications' folder or the general one ? - Have you checked the read/write permissions for the directories where your files are placed ? If my memory serves me right, there was an issue with file permissions being set incorrectly in a version of MacOS X ; maybe your fellow MacOS X users can point you to the solution ? Hope this helps clear things up, Jan Schenkel. Try booting up your computer with the OS X installation CD in the drive. Hold down the C key while startup is taking place. Run the permissions fix feature in the drive tools. You will be able to find that in the menubar. This should fix you right up. You may need to run it 2-3 times to get it all cleared up. Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Trouble downloading OS X version
I am having trouble downloading the OS X release version of 2.0 from the links on the download page--get gibberish text but not a DMG file. I suspect that the download will go OK if I can get it from the FTP site but I can't find it. Can someone tell me how to get 2.0 for OS X? Thanks. Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution 2.0 released
Kevin I'm having trouble with the OS X download coming acrross as text not DMG. How do I get the OS X version from the FTP site? Thanks Marian Petrides, M.D. On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 01:09 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: Hello, As some of you have already realized, 2.0 is has now shipped. (We were waiting to ensure the web site was ready for traffic before sending out all the official announcements.) We'd like to take this opportunity to thank this great community in supporting us through all the trials and tribulations of the gestation period, and we hope you find 2.0 worth the wait. Kind regards, Kevin Kevin Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited: Software at the Speed of Thought Tel: +44 (0) 870 747 1165. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
On mouseover?
I would like to have a text label appear when the mouse passes over a button, but cannot find an on mouseover section in the help. Is this possible in RunRev? Sincerely, John R. Brauer, Psy.D. Clinical Psychologist ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Download RR 2 ???
Le mercredi, 28 mai 2003, à 11:04 Europe/Paris, Jan Schenkel a écrit : Hi Manuel, Combined with your other reply, concerning the 'backup stack file' that couldn't be written ;the conclusion must be : file permissions. - Are you logged in as the 'administrator' of the machine ? Yes - Where are you putting the files : your own 'Applications' folder or the general one ? My own, located in another partition - Have you checked the read/write permissions for the directories where your files are placed ? No If my memory serves me right, there was an issue with file permissions being set incorrectly in a version of MacOS X ; maybe your fellow MacOS X users can point you to the solution ? I'll do that if the problem comes again. This morningn right after the start up, the R-R code was saved right away! Thank you for your help! Manuel ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mime types (was Trouble downloading OS X version)
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 02:43 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: Your machine is not set up to properly recognize a .dmg file. You can set that up in Internet explorer. IE thinks it is text and is downloading it as such. In the meantime, control-click on the URL, you will get a contextual menu, and choose 'save to disk'. In addition to that, the web server configuration can make a difference too. The runrev.com webserver is returning a text/plain mime type to the browser, which is bound to confuse more than just Internet Explorer. # curl --head http://www.runrev.com/revolution/downloads/distributions/2.0/ revolutionosx.dmg HTTP/1.1 200 OK ...[headers cut]... Content-Type: text/plain On the Apache server, I would recommend the following configuration AddType application/octet-stream dmg Usually you can just put that into a .htaccess file in your web folder. That mime type will cause most if not all browsers to treat it as a file to download instead of displaying it. I just checked on some Apple.com downloads on akamai.net and they are using application/octet-stream as well. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Trouble downloading OS X version-FTP works
Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, that didn't work either. The good news, however, is that the hyperlink to the FTP site now works once again, so it was a simple matter to download the .dmg file. Marian On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 04:43 PM, Stephen Barncard wrote: Your machine is not set up to properly recognize a .dmg file. You can set that up in Internet explorer. IE thinks it is text and is downloading it as such. In the meantime, control-click on the URL, you will get a contextual menu, and choose 'save to disk'. I am having trouble downloading the OS X release version of 2.0 from the links on the download page--get gibberish text but not a DMG file. I suspect that the download will go OK if I can get it from the FTP site but I can't find it. Can someone tell me how to get 2.0 for OS X? Thanks. Marian ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
weird behavior in Rev 2.0
I'm having a problem with a stack in version 2.0. I was editing some code, and all of a sudden things starting responding very slowly. I would click a button and it would take 3 or 4 seconds before anything happened. I opened the Message Watcher, only to find that Rev was sending some message called cREVGeneral over and over again, probably close to 100 times per second. I was able to trace it back to the script I was working on. I was just editing the mouseUp handler of a field. And I have no idea why it would be sending this message. It only happens with this one stack as far as I'm aware. Does anyone know what this message is and why it's being sent? I can post my code if someone wishes, but I'm not sure it'll help since it doesn't reference the cREVGeneral message at all. Thanks, = Chris Sheffield Read Naturally www.readnaturally.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100%
Since installing 2.0r2, I have found that under a wide variety of circumstances ( which means I have not got a clue as to how to isolate this ), cpu usage shoots to 100% and just stays there seemly forever. It can happen while editing a script, using the debugger or just all on its own without intervention from me. So far, after 2,3 minutes, with the use of cmd period it stops as in cpu usage returns to normal levels. I am using osx 10.2.6 on a 1G G4 Powerbook with 1G RAM, and running with few background processes. Help ! ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: first field to get keyboard focus?
I don't know the reason for this although it might be that Rev stores the focus so that the same field is selected when you go to a new card. The workaround is to have a preOpenCard handler that specifically sets the focus to the correct field. e.g. focus on field 1 Cheers, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.troz.net/Rev/ On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 08:34 am, Alex Rice wrote: On a card I have a field with the highest layer number of all the controls. Nonetheless, *another* field is the one that gets the keyboard input cursor when I go to the card. Has anyone seen this and do you know what a workaround is? Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2
So the saga continues. I re installed version 1.1.1 and opened the stack with version 1.1.1 and my stack is well behaved as is revolution 1.1.1. Going back to version 2.0r2, just opening the stack was enough to peg the cpu usage at 100%. Using cmd period to stop this behaviour works and then just opening the main stack's script is enough to peg cpu usage at 100% again. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sending files to the Trash
The Trash is a normal folder, just like any other, so if you can work out the path to it, then you can just rename your file to that path instead of using delete. I have only done this on Mac OS X, but here is the method I use for finding the path to the Trash: put specialFolderPath(Desktop) into trashFolder set the itemDel to / put .Trash/ into last item of trashFolder Cheers, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.troz.net/Rev/ On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 04:49 pm, Howard Bornstein wrote: Does anyone know a way to move files to the Trash or Recycle bin? The Delete File command deletes them directly, but if you want to give the user the chance to retrieve files you delete, it would make more sense to move them to the trash, like a normal OS operation. Is there a way to do this in Rev? Howard Bornstein D E S I G N E Q www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Using Revolution for LARGE projects
Hi Igor, I have made a few medium sized projects and have just started work on a large project. I agree with the other responses so far, that Revolution IS suited to large projects, however I would also urge you not to consider the project as a single entity. In your list below, you have divided the task up in sections: that's great - now consider each of those sections as a separate project that can be linked to the other sections. This will make the project seem far less complex and make it easier to debug. To answer your specific queries: 1. Will it be manageable? Yes, if you structure your stacks and scripts well. Don't try to make multi-purpose stacks. Use a separate stack or even stack file for each significant task. Comment your scripts well (remember, someone else may have to make changes in the future) and use clear variable and handler names. Read Richard Gaskin's article on scripting style before you start. Because of the graphical way of laying out objects and then applying scripts directly to the object concerned, it is very easy to track where problems occur. 2. Will it be fast enough? You are talking about a multi-user database structure, it has to use an external database like MySQL. As you predict, the speed problem won't be in gathering the data, but in updating the graphical display to match. There are always multiple ways to do things in such a flexible language as Transcript and some will be slow but there are nearly always fast ways to go. You might like to have a look at my Speed.rev stack (web site link below), which points out some of the key tricks, and Richard Gaskin also has a stack called 4WBench.rev (I think) which will allow you to test various scripting options. 3. Will it be reliable? One of my apps was last upgraded on 6th January and it hasn't quit since :-) You do need to have safe-guards in case another app brings down the system, so make sure that any data changes are saved as soon as possible rather than being cached for a single large update. The only problems I have had with stability of compiled apps, is where they are trying to access an internet socket which isn't available. Under Mac OS 9, this is fine, but with OS X, it can cause an unexpected quit or some other problems. Sorry to be so long-winded :-) Cheers, Sarah [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.troz.net/Rev/ On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 07:57 pm, Igor Couto wrote: Dear Revolution Experts, I am considering using Revolution as a development tool in a large project, but am hesitant because of the apparent lack of complex applications made with Revolution - apart from Revolution itself. Most applications I've been able to locate on the web that are made with Revolution seem to be relatively small. I was wondering whether anyone participating in this list has used Revolution to develop a LARGE, COMPLEX application. To give you an idea of the size and level of complexity I am considering, here is a bit of information on the software package in question: It is basically an integrated medical practice management system. The program will: a) Store daily appointments for doctors, and display daily and weekly charts. b) Manage an electronic waiting list of patients by order of arrival c) Keep patients' clinical records (including scans of x-rays) d) Keep an administrative to-do list e) Maintain patients' accounts and financial information f) Provide statistical information on doctors, patients, and the clinic g) Issue a variety of printed reports, including invoices, receipts, statements, patient history, consultation schedule, etc. h) Multi-user (networked) i) Issue alarms and notifications Because the product must be cross-platform (Macintosh and Windows), I have been weighting the pros and cons of both RealBasic and Revolution - as these seem to be the most feature-full and robust cross-platform development environments around. While RealBasic seemed appealing at first, I soon stumbled across several limitations, some of which would eventually compromise both the user interface, and the design of the application. Revolution seems to have all the user-interface functionality we want built-in (or easily customisable or programmable), however I haven't been able to ascertain whether it would be: 1) Sufficiently MANAGEABLE in a large project: are Revolution-based projects just as easy to manage and maintain as projects developed with a 'normal' object-oriented language? Are there more debugging and maintenance problems in Revolution because of the lack of strong data types? Is it sufficiently easy to apply object-oriented concepts of application design (specifically classes and data structures) in Revolution? 2) Sufficiently FAST: what database should we use as the back-end? Valentina? MySQL? And considering that some of the windows in our applications are going to be making several simultaneous queries to the server, and then updating tens of objects
Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 05:47 PM, Dave McKee wrote: So the saga continues. I re installed version 1.1.1 and opened the stack with version 1.1.1 and my stack is well behaved as is revolution 1.1.1. Going back to version 2.0r2, just opening the stack was enough to peg the cpu usage at 100%. Using cmd period to stop this behaviour works and then just opening the main stack's script is enough to peg cpu usage at 100% again. If you have a default button active on the screen, that will eat up a lot of cpu power. It is not Revs fault, but Apples. Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Nine to Five Reports and Rev
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 06:01 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: To make sure we keep a useful focus, let's return to the basics for a moment: What do folks need to print? What challenges are they currently facing implementing that? Hi Richard After speaking extensively on the need for a (Nine to Five) Reports workalike about a year ago, I've been staying in the background for a while waiting to see what the new 2.0 report generator had to offer. So, in answer to your question: what do I need to print? Well, initially at least I need to do the same things I've been doing in Hypercard for more than 10 years: I store a lot of information relating to single business transaction (e.g. - an Insurance risk) on a single card, or across a series of cards in different stacks which are related by a field common to each stack which is indexed (fld control number - I used Nine to Five Index for this). So for a single insurance risk I might typically have single card in main stack (Underwriting) and possibly multiple related transactions such as Endorsements and Claims which are related to the unique Underwriting card by the indexed control number field which they share in common. So far, none of this presents much of a problem in RunRev. And although I've had to roll my own index scheme and a lot of goodies such as calendars and other specialized dialogs, RunRev's capabilities which are far more extensive than Hypercard allow many more ways to skin these cats. With the stack setup described above I typically generate a great variety of single page documents which relate to the data contained on a single card. For example, from the Underwriting stack I will initially generate a cover letter, a detailed quotation, a billing sheet, pro-forma invoice and any number of documents related to the data contained or concatenated from fields on a single card. In Nine to Five Reports the fields on a report layout can get their data from a single field, a calculated combination of any number of fields or a global variable. It is the last of these that really gives the Nine to Five Reports scheme its versatility since what goes into a global is completely under script control and these can be populated interactively by special handlers which may be called as each stage of the printing progresses - i.e. beforeCard, beforeHeader, afterheader etc. It seems to me that any RunRev report scheme that allows a report object to be populated by a global would allow, with a bit of scripting, for the use of data stored in any valid RunRev container. Of course, Nine to Five Reports also allowed typical spreadsheet type reports, also under full script control. You would simply layout a single detail section which would then be repeated for each card in the selected set. I'm sure there are a number of bells and whistles that might be added to the wish list but I really think that this is the way that most users of Hypercard/Nine to Five Reports made use of the product for printing Nine to Five Reports ALSO provided a number of related very useful utilities. Most notable of these (IMHO) were the Search and Sort Engine and the Import and Export stacks which allowed you easily transfer data from one stack to another by matching up the background fields of a source stack to those a target stack with a simple drag and drop interface. These have been an incredibly useful tools for MY needs and although I haven't yet gotten around making my own yet, I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of you guys already have this stuff on the shelf. If so, please feel free to contact me as a really hate reinventing the wheel (especially since round is such a good solution). If it's easy to use and the price is reasonable I AM willing to pay. At this time I have just downloaded Runrev 2.0 - and perhap a lot of this stuff IS in the report generator/manager contained therein, but I can't find any documentation about the capabilities of this feature set and a really detailed tutorial on its use would be greatly appreciated. Alan ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Reporting tool
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 10:25 AM, Bill Vlahos wrote: I don't personally need this kind of tool for anything I'm currently working on but if I did, I'd say $100 for use either for myself or a limited non-commercial distribution (like for an in-company application). $1,000 for unlimited commercial distribution license in an application and something in between for smaller distribution apps like shareware. this sounds reasonable to me and is in the same order of magnitude as I recall Nine to Five Reports charging. Alan ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2
On 5/28/03 7:22 PM, Mark Talluto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 05:47 PM, Dave McKee wrote: So the saga continues. I re installed version 1.1.1 and opened the stack with version 1.1.1 and my stack is well behaved as is revolution 1.1.1. Going back to version 2.0r2, just opening the stack was enough to peg the cpu usage at 100%. Using cmd period to stop this behaviour works and then just opening the main stack's script is enough to peg cpu usage at 100% again. If you have a default button active on the screen, that will eat up a lot of cpu power. It is not Revs fault, but Apples. Best regards, Mark Talluto http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution I don't think that¹s the problem. I have emptied my stack of all its scripts and now when I try opening the stack script, the cpu usage shoots to 100% and sits there until I depress cmd period. Then when I close the script window, Rev asks whether to change the scripts ( but nothing was added or changed or even clicked in ) and back it goes to 100 %, Cmd period again and the script window closes. And this same stack with all of its scripts works fine in Rev 1.1.1. In fact, the same stack worked ok in the last release of Rev 2.0 ( 2.0rc2 ). Something nasty has happened, not sure if its my stack ( unlikely because it functions ok in rev 1.1.1 ) or Rev 2.0 Its getting frustrating trying to track down what this problem is, so why do I get the feeling that I will have to recreate the stack from scratch before it will run in Rev 2.0 ( did not expect this sort of problem ) ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Nine to Five Reports and Rev
At 7:30PM -0700 5/28/03, Alan Gayne wrote: At this time I have just downloaded Runrev 2.0 - and perhap a lot of this stuff IS in the report generator/manager contained therein, but I can't find any documentation about the capabilities of this feature set and a really detailed tutorial on its use would be greatly appreciated. If you go to the Development Guide page of the documentation window and click Printing, you'll find some topics on report printing - start with How to print a report and check out the See Also topics for it. (This is not documented in as much detail as I'd like yet, but the basic information is there.) -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runtime Revolution Limited - Software at the Speed of Thought http://www.runrev.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2
At 7:38PM -0700 5/28/03, Dave McKee wrote: So the saga continues. I re installed version 1.1.1 and opened the stack with version 1.1.1 and my stack is well behaved as is revolution 1.1.1. Going back to version 2.0r2, just opening the stack was enough to peg the cpu usage at 100%. I don't think that's the problem. I have emptied my stack of all its scripts and now when I try opening the stack script, the cpu usage shoots to 100% and sits there until I depress cmd period. Then when I close the script window, Rev asks whether to change the scripts ( but nothing was added or changed or even clicked in ) and back it goes to 100 %, Cmd period again and the script window closes. This is just a guess on my part, but what happens if you remove the cRevGeneral custom property set from the stack (in 1.1.1) and then open it in 2.0? -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runtime Revolution Limited - Software at the Speed of Thought http://www.runrev.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2
On 5/28/03 7:56 PM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:38PM -0700 5/28/03, Dave McKee wrote: So the saga continues. I re installed version 1.1.1 and opened the stack with version 1.1.1 and my stack is well behaved as is revolution 1.1.1. Going back to version 2.0r2, just opening the stack was enough to peg the cpu usage at 100%. I don't think that's the problem. I have emptied my stack of all its scripts and now when I try opening the stack script, the cpu usage shoots to 100% and sits there until I depress cmd period. Then when I close the script window, Rev asks whether to change the scripts ( but nothing was added or changed or even clicked in ) and back it goes to 100 %, Cmd period again and the script window closes. This is just a guess on my part, but what happens if you remove the cRevGeneral custom property set from the stack (in 1.1.1) and then open it in 2.0? -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runtime Revolution Limited - Software at the Speed of Thought http://www.runrev.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thanks you, thank you, thank you, you saved me hours. I went into Rev 1.1.1 and deleted it ( odd that it does not appear in Rev 2.0 ) and loaded it back into Rev 2.0, it works. Boy, this is one you will want to make sure that everyone knows about. Again thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Freezing at Looking for license
Anybody else having this problem? I downloaded the just-released version of 2.0 (MacOS 9-PowerBook G4 ) and it freezes on startup. It get as far as Looking for license and then it freezes. I tried moving my license file from 2.0 beta file, but that didn't work either. Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: first field to get keyboard focus?
On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 08:34 am, Alex Rice wrote: On a card I have a field with the highest layer number of all the controls. Nonetheless, *another* field is the one that gets the keyboard input cursor when I go to the card. Has anyone seen this and do you know what a workaround is? I think it's the lowest-numbered field that gets the automatic cursor insertion. Try relayering your fields and put the desired target as layer 1. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevNet certification(?)
Alex Rice wrote: On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 03:20 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: In the absence of any objective criteria, I may call the certificate program Friends of Fourth World, and limit it to people I know personally (literally friends). Since I know most of the folks likely to add lots of entries into RevNet's index, today it's not much of an issue. But down the road, as Rev's audience grows, I'd like to find some means of verifying trustworthiness but without risking offending anyone. Any suggestions? It occurs to me that the web of trust concept in public-key cryptography, like PGP, would be appropriate in this situation. You don't know person X, but a friend of a friend of a Friends of Fourth World may be able to vouch for person X. Maybe you can implement something like that in Revnet. Maybe something with MD5 or the other built-in Rev tools A google search for web of trust +PGP has lots of hits. Thanks to the engine's built-in md5 support, crsafting a scheme isn't the hard part. The hard part is deciding who gets a certificate and who doesn't -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.2: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100%
Dave McKee wrote: Since installing 2.0r2, I have found that under a wide variety of circumstances ( which means I have not got a clue as to how to isolate this ), cpu usage shoots to 100% and just stays there seemly forever. It can happen while editing a script, using the debugger or just all on its own without intervention from me. So far, after 2,3 minutes, with the use of cmd period it stops as in cpu usage returns to normal levels. I am using osx 10.2.6 on a 1G G4 Powerbook with 1G RAM, and running with few background processes. When it's spiking is there a default button throbbing? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.2: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevNet certification(?)
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 10:52 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Thanks to the engine's built-in md5 support, crsafting a scheme isn't the hard part. The hard part is deciding who gets a certificate and who doesn't I know that's why I suggested the web-of-trust concept ala PGP. It's a way of managing trust levels. It's different than a Verisign like certifying authority. Quoting one of the articles about it: [using PGP web of trust]... Any group, no matter how informal and how dispersed, can build up the web of trust needed for secure communications. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: first field to get keyboard focus?
On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 10:40 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I think it's the lowest-numbered field that gets the automatic cursor insertion. Try relayering your fields and put the desired target as layer 1. Sure enough. Thanks- I don't know why I thought it was front-to-back (higher to lower layer number). Here's another question: do you know why some fields will appear to have the blinking insertion point, but others will not (but do still have the focus border?) Fields that otherwise seem identical seem to have this behavior. I've seen only my smaller single-line fields do this. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: first field to get keyboard focus?
If another object overlays the field (like, the lable maybe?) it will not get focaus corrently. Try making sure that no other object overlays your field. - Original Message - From: Alex Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:44 PM Subject: Re: first field to get keyboard focus? On Wednesday, May 28, 2003, at 10:40 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I think it's the lowest-numbered field that gets the automatic cursor insertion. Try relayering your fields and put the desired target as layer 1. Sure enough. Thanks- I don't know why I thought it was front-to-back (higher to lower layer number). Here's another question: do you know why some fields will appear to have the blinking insertion point, but others will not (but do still have the focus border?) Fields that otherwise seem identical seem to have this behavior. I've seen only my smaller single-line fields do this. Alex Rice, Software Developer Architectural Research Consultants, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Sending files to the Trash
The Trash is a normal folder, just like any other, so if you can work out the path to it, then you can just rename your file to that path instead of using delete. Thank you Sarah (and Ken). I wanted to find a way to write directly to the trash from Transcript. My little utility often has to delete thousands of files and I'm guessing that Applescript would be quite bit slower than Transcript. put specialFolderPath(Desktop) into trashFolder set the itemDel to / put .Trash/ into last item of trashFolder Under OS 9 I think you have to drop the . before Trash/. This looks like it will work. Thanks again! Regards, Howard Bornstein D E S I G N E Q www.designeq.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
text in RR 2.0 scripts
Scripts in 2.0 show up in pale grey. In 1.1.1 you coul select any pat of the scripts an change their style an color. How can we do that in 2.0? The Format item of he menu Script only scrolls down the text to the bottom not showing any palette. In the menu View: the colorize item lets you get all kinds of pale colors and the item Clorization settings lets you choose the color of anything but the body of the text. I can't believe the appearence of the text of scripts cannot be controled at least as much as in 1.1.1! But I just can't find the way to do it. Has anybody out there found it out? Manuel ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Valentina and Rev manuals
Hello, I FINALLY (!!!) convinced the powers that be in my company to let me try Rev for a project instead of C++ and I just uninstalled REALBasic from my personal computer. So, I guess this means I'm going to actually have to learn to use Rev now! ;) A few questions, though: Are the Rev manuals actually bound books, or are they just printouts in binders? Do they include the tutorials that are under the documentation? Any idea when more will be in stock? Also, is the Valentina and Rev 2 combination production-stable? I haven't bought a Valentina license yet, does anyone have any advice or recommendations regarding its use? My project will need a single-user database for sure so any input on Valentina is appreciated. Thank you. David ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: text in RR 2.0 scripts
Hi Manuel, This is a font anti-aliasing issue in OS X (if that's what you're using)...just go to Preferences and under Script Editor set the font to Courier and it will be nice and dark again. Valetia :-) On 29/5/03 5:06 PM, Emmanuel Companys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scripts in 2.0 show up in pale grey. In 1.1.1 you coul select any pat of the scripts an change their style an color. How can we do that in 2.0? The Format item of he menu Script only scrolls down the text to the bottom not showing any palette. In the menu View: the colorize item lets you get all kinds of pale colors and the item Clorization settings lets you choose the color of anything but the body of the text. I can't believe the appearence of the text of scripts cannot be controled at least as much as in 1.1.1! But I just can't find the way to do it. Has anybody out there found it out? Manuel ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
cRevGeneral - revLibraries
This is just a guess on my part, but what happens if you remove the cRevGeneral custom property set from the stack (in 1.1.1) and then open it in 2.0? -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ Thanks you, thank you, thank you, you saved me hours. I went into Rev 1.1.1 and deleted it ( odd that it does not appear in Rev 2.0 ) and loaded it back into Rev 2.0, it works. Boy, this is one you will want to make sure that everyone knows about. I was unable to edit my stacks (ones made in Rev 1.1.1) and would get the spinning pizza in OS X. I did not find a cRevGeneral but deleted the group revLibraries prior to opening in Rev 2.0...NOW I can edit those stacks. I hope my deleting group revLibraries doesn't cause issues of its own. Brava Jeanne -- --- http://EZPZapps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software - Internet Development - Consulting ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Going Mad With Unicode
--- Igor Couto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Jan, Thank you for your prompt suggestion! [snip] In my test, targetf was 6 lines long. Much to my surprise, this script DID copy the right characters into line 2 of the target! However, after line 2, ALL CHARACTERS TURNED TO JAPANESE! *hehehehehe* This is reproducible, and always happens right after the 'pasted' line - ie, if I change the 3rd line of the script to say put theSource into line 4 of theTarget, then the source field ends up OK up until the end of line 4, and then it's just japanese gobbledigook! Jan, do you have any suggestions? It feels like we're getting close, here! -- Igor Hi Igor, Sorry to get back to you so late, but work gets in the way and stuff, heh. Have you checked the textFont ? get the textFont of line 2 to 2 + the number of lines of fld source If the second item is japanese or something like that, it probably didn't get transfered from the source field. So you'll have to fix that : set the textFont of line 2 to 2 + the number of lines of fld source to Arial,cyrillic (Replace 'cyrillic' with the appropriate name) Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Apology
My apologies to anyone affected by my sending a previous message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I need to double-check the address before I post. Sorry. ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drag-And-Drop Image Fun
--- Yves COPPE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been able to successfully work with drag-and-drop with text, but not with PICTURES. My original posting, in regards to the 2 problems I encountered with drag-and-drop: Hi Igor I've asked on this list to jan Schenkel to write a nioce code for drag 'n drop for text, from one fld to another. I gave us a wonderful code, with a fantastic user interface. Perhaps he could do the same with image ? Hey Jan, are you ready ??? -- Greetings. Yves COPPE Eep, why is everyone looking at me for examples ? *hides under his desk* Seriously now, apart from a simple test stack to check a few things, I haven't used the new drag'n'drop features all that much ; the stack for drag'n'drop between list fields doesn't use the standard messages ; and graphics/multimedia isn't really my field. However, here's my take on things (UNTESTED) : - since it wants .PNG formatted image data, you'll need to convert both its imageData _and_ its maskData/alphaData into that format - you might want to look at the 'export' command in the dictionary ; it allows you to export to a file or even a container in a certain format (aha!) - you can then stuff this in the dragData[image] and give it a whirl. As for visual interaction, that's a whole different ballpark. If you're only dragging between image controls on the same card, then here's another UNTESTED idea : - temporarily create a new image control of the same size as the source, - set its imageData to the imageData of the source and its alphaData too - tinker its blendLevel so its more translucent And either : - in the card script, trap the dragMove message and set the location of the temp image to something around the mouseLoc - or start a 'send in 5 milliseconds' cycle to accomplish the same movement of the temp image Hope this gets you closer to a solution. Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Freezing at Looking for license
Hi Jim, not happening here. System: G4 tower AGP-400MHz, Os 9.04, carbon lib 1.6 512MB Ram Have you already tried starting your machine with only standard extensions turned on? Regards, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
text appearence of RR 2.0 scripts
Scripts in 2.0 show up in pale grey. In 1.1.1 you coul select any pat of the scripts an change their style an color. How can we do that in 2.0? The Format item of he menu Script only scrolls down the text to the bottom not showing any palette. In the menu View: the colorize item lets you get all kinds of pale colors and the item Colorization settings lets you choose the color of anything but the body of the text. I can't believe the appearence of the text of scripts cannot be controled at least as much as in 1.1.1! But I just can't find the way to do it. Has anybody out there found it out? Manuel ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Drag-And-Drop Image Fun
However, here's my take on things (UNTESTED) : - since it wants .PNG formatted image data, you'll need to convert both its imageData _and_ its maskData/alphaData into that format - you might want to look at the 'export' command in the dictionary ; it allows you to export to a file or even a container in a certain format (aha!) - you can then stuff this in the dragData[image] and give it a whirl. Just tested it and there seems to be a bug where dragging and dropping images within Rev does not work. Will fix for 2.1. This is how it was supposed to work: source image: on mousedown set the dragdata[image] to the text of me -- where me is an image end mousedown target image: on dragenter if image is among the items of the keys(the dragdata) then --if image is one of the available drag types set the acceptdrops to true end if end dragenter on dragdrop if image is among the items of the keys(the dragdata) then put the dragdata[image] into me end if pass dragdrop end dragdrop The workaround is: on mousedown set the dragdata[text] to base64encode(the text of me) --base64encode binary data as text end mousedown target image: on dragenter if text is among the items of the keys(the dragdata) then set the acceptdrops to true end if end dragenter on dragdrop if text is among the items of the keys(the dragdata) then put base64decode(the dragdata[image]) into me end if pass dragdrop end dragdrop Tuviah Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.runrev.com/ Runtime Revolution Limited - Software at the Speed of Thought ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: text appearence of RR 2.0 scripts
--- Emmanuel Companys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scripts in 2.0 show up in pale grey. In 1.1.1 you coul select any pat of the scripts an change their style an color. How can we do that in 2.0? The Format item of he menu Script only scrolls down the text to the bottom not showing any palette. In the menu View: the colorize item lets you get all kinds of pale colors and the item Colorization settings lets you choose the color of anything but the body of the text. I can't believe the appearence of the text of scripts cannot be controled at least as much as in 1.1.1! But I just can't find the way to do it. Has anybody out there found it out? Manuel Hi Manuel, Not to state the obvious, but what happens when you select a chunk and then try and use the Text menu ? If things look pale gray, it's because MacOS X' anti-aliasing gets in the way ; try switching to a different font in the 'preferences'. Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2
I had the same bizarre problem and removing the prop set cRevGeneral resolved it. Can someone shed some light on what's going on? Why would this cause so much cpu activity? Will I have to delete cRevGeneral from all my existing stacks? Mac OSX 10.2.5 on powerbook g4 667 dvi -- D -Original Message- From: Dave McKee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 11:47 PM To: Revolution Subject: Re: Release 2.0r2 - Unexplained CPU usage shoots to 100% - Part 2 On 5/28/03 7:56 PM, Jeanne A. E. DeVoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 7:38PM -0700 5/28/03, Dave McKee wrote: So the saga continues. I re installed version 1.1.1 and opened the stack with version 1.1.1 and my stack is well behaved as is revolution 1.1.1. Going back to version 2.0r2, just opening the stack was enough to peg the cpu usage at 100%. I don't think that's the problem. I have emptied my stack of all its scripts and now when I try opening the stack script, the cpu usage shoots to 100% and sits there until I depress cmd period. Then when I close the script window, Rev asks whether to change the scripts ( but nothing was added or changed or even clicked in ) and back it goes to 100 %, Cmd period again and the script window closes. This is just a guess on my part, but what happens if you remove the cRevGeneral custom property set from the stack (in 1.1.1) and then open it in 2.0? -- Jeanne A. E. DeVoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Runtime Revolution Limited - Software at the Speed of Thought http://www.runrev.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Thanks you, thank you, thank you, you saved me hours. I went into Rev 1.1.1 and deleted it ( odd that it does not appear in Rev 2.0 ) and loaded it back into Rev 2.0, it works. Boy, this is one you will want to make sure that everyone knows about. Again thanks ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
