Re: revXMLPutIntoXMLNode - How do I create CDATA?

2004-01-20 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Terry Judd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear revXML gurus - so - I use the revPutIntoXMLNode
 command to put 
 some text between a pair of tags, but how do I
 specify that I want it 
 to be CDATA? If the original xml includes CDATA and
 I write to that 
 node it becomes plain text.
 
 Any ideas? Have I missed something (quite likely)?
 I'd really like to 
 be able to do this without having to have to write
 the data out and 
 then read it back in.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Terry...
 

Hi Terry,

I haven't actually tested this, but you could try the
'revAppendXML' command for this purpose.

Jan Schenkel.

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Custom Cursor Outside of Rev?

2004-01-20 Thread Scott Rossi
Anyone know if it's possible to control the appearance of the cursor outside
of Rev?  In other words, is it possible to employ a custom cursor within Rev
that can also be displayed if the user clicks on the desktop or into another
app?  Specifically, I have a utility that provides screen information with
custom cursors, and I'm trying to hide the default pointer cursor while the
utility is active, even when outside of Rev.

Thanks  Regards,

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Re: Burn files to CD in Rev - Burning Desire Stack

2004-01-20 Thread Barry Levine
It appears that my post (although erroneously perceived as a shot 
across the bow) had the desired effect. Thomas' message (#10, Vol 4, 
Issue 131) laid out the steps and I am making progress. So a big thank 
you! to Thomas for his shell code.

I do have one question, though (for now). I have a folder that has a 
space as part of its name (my folder for example). How would one 
specify this folder as the source? I get an error that is obviously due 
to the Terminal mis-parsing the folder name as a result of the space. I 
have placed the folder path into a field but referencing the field 
leaves that darn space. I imagine I'd have to replace that space with 
an ASCII code?

BTW: I intend to create a stack that explains exactly what is done to 
accomplish the burning of the CD and then post it where it may be 
freely downloaded by anyone who needs it. My hope is that I can 
encapsulate the seamy underbelly of it all so that my burn myFolder 
line of Transcript code may be all that is required of the developer.

Thanks,
Barry
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RE: How to list tables in an SQL database

2004-01-20 Thread Roger Kingston
Jan,

Thanks for your guidance.  I'll give it a try shortly.  Just to clarify,
when you say, use the name of an existing query do you mean the ID
number generated by a RevDBquery or are you referring to an automatic
query from the Rev Query Builder?

Sorry for submitting this question three times, but I was getting
'mailbox full' rejections.

Regards

Roger Kingston
8 Parsons Walk
Clifton Campville
Tamworth
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Subject: Re: How to list tables in an SQL database


--- Roger Kingston [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 All,
 
 I've had a good deal of success using Rev 2's revdb functions, but 
 would like to be able to get a list of tables belonging to
 a database that I
 have connected to.
 
   Looking in the code behind the Rev Database Query
 builder, there is a
 function:
 revTableNamesOfQuery() which looks promising, but it
 is not documented
 and I'm too dumb to figure out how to use it.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Roger Kingston
 

Hi Roger,

The trick is to use the name of an existing query that
connects to the database whose table names you want ;
so suppose you have a query Foobar :
  put revTableNamesOfQuery(Foobar) into tNames
  answer tNames

Hope this helped,

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Re: OS X Menu Problem

2004-01-20 Thread Thierry Arbellot
About the Edit menu, the last 2 items are deleted ONLY if the last item 
name or label is Preferences.
This is convenient if you don't want to have preferences menu (in this 
case, the preferences menu in the app menu is disabled)
But, it's a problem when you work in another language than English: Rev 
doesn't delete the last 2 items of the Edit menu and the preferences 
menu in the app menu is disabled.

Regards.
Thierry.
On Tuesday, Jan 20, 2004, at 07:49 Europe/Paris, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

Check the What's New text file that came with your Revolution 
application. It details how menus are shuffled around to match the OS 
X use interface guidelines.

Basically, the last 2 items in the File menu (normally a divider and 
Quit) are deleted and the Quit is moved to the application menu. 
Similarly the last 2 items in the Edit menu (a divider  Preferences) 
are also deleted and Preferences moved to the application menu and the 
same with the Help menu and the About menu item.

The other trick is that OS X apps do not respond to the Quit menu 
item. You have to use a closeStackRequest handler instead.

Cheers,
Sarah
On 20 Jan 2004, at 4:30 pm, Stewart Lynch wrote:

I am having real difficulty with creating Menus on OS X.
For example, I have a File Menu that has a Save as one of the menu
options.  When I view the menu in the form, all menu options are
displayed.  When I view it as an OS X Menu, the menu item is not 
there.

In other instances, entire menus do not display in the OS X IDE nor 
when
the application is built as a stand alone.

Is there any solution to this?  The Menu Builder is flakey at best.

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Re: Password Field

2004-01-20 Thread Brian Maher
Hi Mark,

What two recipes in the docs did you use?  I looked through those and didn't see 
anything 
that was applicable.

Brian

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custom tab buttons

2004-01-20 Thread Chris Sheffield
Does anyone have a good example of how to create a custom tab control with
custom button graphics?  I know I've seen this before, but I can't figure
out how to do it.  Maybe it's just faked?

I know Chipp Walters has done this in some of his apps.  So Chipp, if you're
reading this, can you share how you do that?

Thanks,

Chris Sheffield
Software Development
Read Naturally

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Re: Password Field

2004-01-20 Thread Mark Brownell
On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 03:50  AM, Brian Maher wrote:

Hi Mark,

What two recipes in the docs did you use?  I looked through those and 
didn't see anything that was applicable.

Brian
Brian,

I opened up the Transcript Dictionary and clicked on keyDown. I was 
looking for anything with key in it.

I then looked at the See Also menu and went to Recipe for... 
limiting the number of characters in a field. I also looked at Recipe 
for... rejecting non-digit characters in a field.

I went to the Transcript Dictionary and clicked on contains to 
refresh my memory. I got this: Compares two strings and evaluates to 
true if the first contains the second, false if not.

So with three cut and pasted examples of code and about five tests I 
was able to get something thrown together with a little humor thrown in 
for good measure. I don't recommend using that section that gives away 
the length of the password. I just put that in to show text 
manipulation. I knew to go to the Transcript Dictionary and search for 
anything that had to do with the keys  contains.

Mark

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APXL Schema - Using REV

2004-01-20 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
Hello all listies,

I was a wondering, I am reading the XML usage in OSX and it turns out 
that Keynote stores presentations in XML using Apples APXL Schema.
It would appear to me that REV using the APXL can open and display 
Keynote presentations in Mac and Windows computers.
A REV Keynote presentation tool created in REV would be a valuable tool.

Also Powerpoint transfers to Keynote very quickly and easily. SO, A 
person could in effect translate all powerpoint presentations to 
keynote via Applescript and then open them in REV using XML and the 
APXL from Apple.

This is huge in my opinion. Such a tool would have a large user base 
for people looking for a better way to present graphics and data 
without using PP or Director.

HHMMM

Anyone else see the potential in this?

Contact me off list.

Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 
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Re: custom tab buttons

2004-01-20 Thread Bob Hartley
At 15:22 20/01/2004, you wrote:
Does anyone have a good example of how to create a custom tab control with
custom button graphics?  I know I've seen this before, but I can't figure
out how to do it.  Maybe it's just faked?
If you go to altuit.com and buy Button Gadget (I did and it is a great 
application) you can get the pro version.

This if I remember correctly has a built-in rev converter.



I know Chipp Walters has done this in some of his apps.  So Chipp, if you're
reading this, can you share how you do that?
I'd save all the hastle and buy the app. It is cheap.


Thanks,

Chris Sheffield
Software Development
Read Naturally


Cheers
Bob

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Re: Burn files to CD in Rev - Burning Desire Stack

2004-01-20 Thread Dar Scott
On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 12:56 AM, Barry Levine wrote:

I do have one question, though (for now). I have a folder that has a 
space as part of its name (my folder for example). How would one 
specify this folder as the source? I get an error that is obviously 
due to the Terminal mis-parsing the folder name as a result of the 
space. I have placed the folder path into a field but referencing the 
field leaves that darn space. I imagine I'd have to replace that space 
with an ASCII code?
Try prefixing the space with a backslash (I think that's it) or quoting 
the entire name.

Dar Scott

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RE: custom tab buttons

2004-01-20 Thread Chris Sheffield
Thanks, Bob.  I already have ButtonGadget.  And I agree, it's an awesome
tool!  But what I need to know is how to get my button graphics into a tab
control.  Any ideas on that?

Chris Sheffield
Software Development
Read Naturally

 


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Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:30 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: custom tab buttons


At 15:22 20/01/2004, you wrote:
Does anyone have a good example of how to create a custom tab control 
with custom button graphics?  I know I've seen this before, but I can't 
figure out how to do it.  Maybe it's just faked?

If you go to altuit.com and buy Button Gadget (I did and it is a great 
application) you can get the pro version.

This if I remember correctly has a built-in rev converter.



I know Chipp Walters has done this in some of his apps.  So Chipp, if 
you're reading this, can you share how you do that?

I'd save all the hastle and buy the app. It is cheap.


Thanks,

Chris Sheffield
Software Development
Read Naturally


Cheers
Bob


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Problems using rev-XML functions

2004-01-20 Thread Jim Lyons
I've been investigating rev's built in functions for parsing XML using 
this simple XML file (the angle brackets are shown as parens for this 
message):

(root)
  (record id=1)
(fld1)Harry(/fld1)
(fld2)Ron(/fld2)
  (/record)
  (record id=2)
(fld1)Fred(/fld1)
(fld2)George(/fld2)
  (/record)
(/root)
The two main functions for parsing XML are revCreateXMLTree, which 
takes the XML source as a parameter, and revCreateXMLTreeFromFile, 
which gets the XML from a file. Besides the source, there are three 
other parameters, all boolean switches. The first switch is whether to 
bail or not if an error in syntax occurs; the second is whether you 
want the function to build a tree in memory for you and return a 
pointer to it; the last is whether you want messages sent as the 
parsing proceeds. You'll want to set one of the last two switches true 
or the function will only tell you whether there was an error in syntax.

There are basically two ways to use these functions, controlled by the 
last two switches: create a tree in memory and then use the other 
rev-XML functions to traverse and interrogate it; or have the parser 
send messages as it goes, like revStartXMLNode, revStartXMLData, etc. 
Here is what I found out.

1. The TD says that revStartXMLTree and revEndXMLTree messages will be 
sent when the parsing begins and ends; they are not. I noticed a 
reference in the See Also menu to revXMLStartTree but no entry for 
it, so on a hunch I tried that and it worked: the functions (Rev 2.1.2) 
send revXMLStartTree and revXMLEndTree. I filed this as a documentation 
bug (#1165), but probably they meant to change the names as the docs 
say; guess they will sort it all out.

2. There is a difference in the messages sent depending on if you also 
create the tree. I put simple handlers similar to this for all the 
messages:

on revStartXMLNode attr
  put start node  attr  return after msg
end revStartXMLNode
Here is the sort of thing we get from either function with create_tree 
false and send_messages true:

start tree:
start node: root
start data:
start node: record
start data:
start node: fld1
start data: Harry
end node fld1
start data:
start node: fld2
start data: Ron
end node fld2
start data:
end node record

But with create_tree true and send_messages true we get the much 
cleaner:

start tree:
start node: root
start node: record
start node: fld1
start data: Harry
end node fld1
start node: fld2
start data: Ron
end node fld2
end node record

Obviously this is not a big problem, but it just don't seem right. I 
don't need the tree, but I wish I didn't have to deal with extra start 
data messages

3. The TD says the message revStartXMLnode nodeAttributes will get 
sent when the parser encounters an opening tag, where  nodeAttributes 
is a string containing the attributes of the XML element currently 
being parsed, one attribute per line. The reason I started playing 
with this is because this doesn't make clear how you would know what 
the tag is. Notice in the test source above that when (record id=1) 
is parsed the parameter sent with the start node message is just the 
tag, record. Where's the id attribute? I didn't write a bug report 
about this because I'm not sure I understand how it's supposed to work.

So can anyone provide any help, understanding, advice, or warnings 
about any of this? Thanks, and sorry for the long message.

Jim Lyons

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Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration

2004-01-20 Thread Ray G. Miller


Robert Brenstein said,

I haven't tested this with the newest engine but earlier it was like 
Richard mentioned: globals had to be declared within a handler. There 
was some technical reason for that if I recall.

 

Yes, the globala are *declared* within a handler, but setting the 
globals for all can set, usually at the top of the script editor, for 
each section (card script, background script, button script).

For example:
In the card script, at the top you could set:
global gCatNames, gDogNames, gGreatToys

on preOpenStack
   doTheNeatFldLocs
   doEmptyLitterBox
   --
   setTheGlobals
end preOpenStack
on setTheGlobals
   put fld catNames into gCatNames
   put fld dogNames into gCatNames
   put fld greatToys into gGreatToys
end setTheGlobals
... then, in the stack script (or any control script), simply start each 
script page with:

global gCatNames, gDogNames, gGreatToys

and those globals are available to all handlers on that page.

This of course, works across all subStacks as well.

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Re: Weirdness with global variable declaration

2004-01-20 Thread Dar Scott
On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 12:01 PM, Ray G. Miller wrote:

Yes, the globala are *declared* within a handler, but setting the 
globals for all can set, usually at the top of the script editor, for 
each section (card script, background script, button script).
I like the word globala!

If I understand you right, this is not the way I use declare and 
setting.

I think of this as the declaration:

global aaa

I think of this as the setting:

on yyy
  put ransom into aaa  --   ==
end yyy
Depending on the circumstances this might also be the initialization.

Or did I misread your point, Ray?

Dar Scott
(Thinking of ways to use globala in a sentence.)
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RE: custom tab buttons

2004-01-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Chris,

I quickly worked up a stack which should take the pain out of creating
custom tab buttons:

put in the msg box:

open URL http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/tabExample.rev;

or go to the bottom of page:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm

for the demo stack.

best,

Chipp

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 To: 'How to use Revolution'
 Subject: RE: custom tab buttons


 Thanks, Bob.  I already have ButtonGadget.  And I agree, it's an awesome
 tool!  But what I need to know is how to get my button graphics into a tab
 control.  Any ideas on that?

 Chris Sheffield
 Software Development
 Read Naturally




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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Hartley
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:30 AM
 To: How to use Revolution
 Subject: Re: custom tab buttons


 At 15:22 20/01/2004, you wrote:
 Does anyone have a good example of how to create a custom tab control
 with custom button graphics?  I know I've seen this before, but I can't
 figure out how to do it.  Maybe it's just faked?

 If you go to altuit.com and buy Button Gadget (I did and it is a great
 application) you can get the pro version.

 This if I remember correctly has a built-in rev converter.



 I know Chipp Walters has done this in some of his apps.  So Chipp, if
 you're reading this, can you share how you do that?

 I'd save all the hastle and buy the app. It is cheap.


 Thanks,
 
 Chris Sheffield
 Software Development
 Read Naturally


 Cheers
 Bob


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get mail from pop3

2004-01-20 Thread R. Hillen
Hello list,

Some days ago I read about Shao Seans new libSmtp and libEmail, so I 
wanted to try it out.
But my ISP wants me to first get mail from my account (with username, 
pssword) before I can send mail.

So my question: How can I get Mail from a pop3-server with RunRev?

Thanx for your help.

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RE: custom tab buttons

2004-01-20 Thread Chris Sheffield
Thanks, Chipp.  That is exactly what I needed.  I'm assuming you could add a
disabled state as well.  Would that cause any problems?

Chris


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Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 12:26 PM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: RE: custom tab buttons


Chris,

I quickly worked up a stack which should take the pain out of creating
custom tab buttons:

put in the msg box:

open URL http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/tabExample.rev;

or go to the bottom of page:
http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/Downloads.htm

for the demo stack.

best,

Chipp

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 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:48 AM
 To: 'How to use Revolution'
 Subject: RE: custom tab buttons


 Thanks, Bob.  I already have ButtonGadget.  And I agree, it's an 
 awesome tool!  But what I need to know is how to get my button 
 graphics into a tab control.  Any ideas on that?

 Chris Sheffield
 Software Development
 Read Naturally




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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob 
 Hartley
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:30 AM
 To: How to use Revolution
 Subject: Re: custom tab buttons


 At 15:22 20/01/2004, you wrote:
 Does anyone have a good example of how to create a custom tab control 
 with custom button graphics?  I know I've seen this before, but I 
 can't figure out how to do it.  Maybe it's just faked?

 If you go to altuit.com and buy Button Gadget (I did and it is a great
 application) you can get the pro version.

 This if I remember correctly has a built-in rev converter.



 I know Chipp Walters has done this in some of his apps.  So Chipp, if 
 you're reading this, can you share how you do that?

 I'd save all the hastle and buy the app. It is cheap.


 Thanks,
 
 Chris Sheffield
 Software Development
 Read Naturally


 Cheers
 Bob


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Height/width limit on groups?

2004-01-20 Thread Frank Leahy
This photo album product I'm working on is going great -- everything 
I've wanted to do I've been able to do with Revolution.

But I've come up against a problem -- it looks like the max height and 
width of a group is around 32,000.

Can anyone confirm this?  If so, is there a work around?

Thanks,
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Re: Problems using rev-XML functions

2004-01-20 Thread Jim Lyons
Earlier today I wrote:

3. The TD says the message revStartXMLnode nodeAttributes will get 
sent when the parser encounters an opening tag, where  nodeAttributes 
is a string containing the attributes of the XML element currently 
being parsed, one attribute per line. The reason I started playing 
with this is because this doesn't make clear how you would know what 
the tag is. Notice in the test source above that when (record id=1) 
is parsed the parameter sent with the start node message is just the 
tag, record. Where's the id attribute?
This must be another doc bug. I tried revStartXMLNode tag, attr and 
the attributes show up in the second parameter; the first parameter is 
indeed the tag. I will file this one too.

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Re: Height/width limit on groups?

2004-01-20 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Jan 20, 2004, at 1:59 PM, Frank Leahy wrote:

This photo album product I'm working on is going great -- everything 
I've wanted to do I've been able to do with Revolution.

But I've come up against a problem -- it looks like the max height and 
width of a group is around 32,000.

Can anyone confirm this?  If so, is there a work around?
This is true.  Apparently there can be problems with some graphics 
cards if you go above 32,000.  I encountered this in a project where I 
create a timeline from a database.  The way I worked around it was to 
create groups that were no larger than say 5,000 pixels.  These groups 
were  stored inside of another group.

Main Group
- Subgroup A (5,000 pixels)
- Subgroup B (5,000 pixels)
- Subgroup C (5,000 pixels)
- etc.
I stored the combined width of all subgroups which might be like 50,000 
pixels.  In my custom scroll bar I would determine where in that 50,000 
pixel wide timeline the user currently was and then display the 
appropriate subgroup(s).  As soon as a subgroup moved out of the 
viewable area of the main Group then I would tuck it away off screen 
until it was needed again.  This way you are never setting the loc of 
any object outside of the -32,000/32,000 limit.

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Re: Height/width limit on groups?

2004-01-20 Thread Dar Scott
On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 02:25 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

I stored the combined width of all subgroups which might be like 
50,000 pixels.  In my custom scroll bar I would determine where in 
that 50,000 pixel wide timeline the user currently was and then 
display the appropriate subgroup(s).  As soon as a subgroup moved out 
of the viewable area of the main Group then I would tuck it away off 
screen until it was needed again.
Cool!

I was thinking of doing this.

I was also considering a green room and wings.  Those subgroups moved 
from green room to wings get sent a message to get ready for being 
visible.  Those going the other direction get another message to let 
them go idle and avoid unneeded updating.

Dar Scott

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Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 4, Issue 135

2004-01-20 Thread Ray G. Miller
Dar Scott wrote:

On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 12:01 PM, Ray G. Miller wrote:

Yes, the globala are *declared* within a handler, but setting the 
globals for all can set, usually at the top of the script editor, for 
each section (card script, background script, button script).


I like the word globala!


Ok, smarty pants, I forgot to double-check the spellingn ;-)

Actually globala is a pretty neat word. I'm gonna try to develop a 
function around it...

If I understand you right, this is not the way I use declare and 
setting.

I think of this as the declaration:

global aaa

I think of this as the setting:

on yyy
  put ransom into aaa  --   ==
end yyy
Depending on the circumstances this might also be the initialization.

Or did I misread your point, Ray?

Dar Scott
(Thinking of ways to use globala in a sentence.)

Yea, it's not really clear. I just put the globala at the top and set 
their values in a handler. I then cut and paste the top globala into 
any script page I need them.

Ray

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Re: strange reply message

2004-01-20 Thread Ray G. Miller
Revers,
For every message I sent to the list, I get a Mailbox full. Can't 
deliver message! Yet all the messages are delivered. Anyone else 
getting this strangeness?

Ray
developer of the famous globala
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Re: Height/width limit on groups?

2004-01-20 Thread Mark Brownell
On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 02:32  PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

Messaging would be a great addition.  Green room and wings is a great 
way to visualize it as well.

Dar wrote: Green room and wings
I was getting something like this:

put buzzOff(greenSlime, flapWings, 2233) into bird1

You should see my code when I don't care if anyone ever sees it. I once 
wrote a function that had a cat chasing a dog that ended up in a mouse 
trap. It was really part of a home grown HTML parser.

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Re: strange reply message

2004-01-20 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 1/20/04 3:54 PM, Ray G. Miller wrote:

Revers,
For every message I sent to the list, I get a Mailbox full. Can't 
deliver message! Yet all the messages are delivered. Anyone else 
getting this strangeness?

Ray
developer of the famous globala
Yup, everyone is getting it. There is some user out there whose ISP is 
sending those. I'll ask Kevin if he can fix it, it has been going on for 
a long time.

I love globala, btw.

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Re: strange reply message

2004-01-20 Thread Mark Brownell
On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 03:01  PM, J. Landman Gay wrote:

globala
1.) ebola on steroids

2.) global ebola virus

3.) New coined slang for a whopper of an internet virus

I guess that would be globola.

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Re: custom tab buttons

2004-01-20 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
It is too bad we can't use the imageSource to change a char in a button 
name to a graphic in the button name... It is just text after all just 
like a field.

Tom

On Jan 20, 2004, at 11:47 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote:

Thanks, Bob.  I already have ButtonGadget.  And I agree, it's an 
awesome
tool!  But what I need to know is how to get my button graphics into a 
tab
control.  Any ideas on that?

Chris Sheffield
Software Development
Read Naturally


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hartley
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 9:30 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: custom tab buttons

At 15:22 20/01/2004, you wrote:
Does anyone have a good example of how to create a custom tab control
with custom button graphics?  I know I've seen this before, but I 
can't
figure out how to do it.  Maybe it's just faked?
If you go to altuit.com and buy Button Gadget (I did and it is a great
application) you can get the pro version.
This if I remember correctly has a built-in rev converter.



I know Chipp Walters has done this in some of his apps.  So Chipp, if
you're reading this, can you share how you do that?
I'd save all the hastle and buy the app. It is cheap.


Thanks,

Chris Sheffield
Software Development
Read Naturally


Cheers
Bob

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Re: Height/width limit on groups?

2004-01-20 Thread Dar Scott
On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 03:51 PM, Mark Brownell wrote:

Messaging would be a great addition.  Green room and wings is a great 
way to visualize it as well.

Dar wrote: Green room and wings
I was getting something like this:

put buzzOff(greenSlime, flapWings, 2233) into bird1
I never got into that, though I have seen code of those that do.

The image I was trying to convey was a stage metaphore:
  On stage--object is visible
  In wings--object is expected to become visible in a timely 
manner
  In green room--   object might become visible, but slow response is OK

For example, if an object was near the window of visibility and might 
be quickly scrolled into it, then it would be in wings.  If it would 
take lots of scrolling or some hops to get to it, then it would be in 
green room.

I probably butchered the terminology as those in theater might already 
see.

Dar Scott

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Re: Burn files to CD in Rev - Burning Desire Stack

2004-01-20 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
Yes that is a backslash that is used to determine the space in Terminal.

Tom

On Jan 20, 2004, at 5:10 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

Open up Terminal, drag you folder into the Terminal window and see how 
it displays it. I think Dar is right and the space gets prefixed with 
a backslash (or possibly a forward slash) but using the Terminal 
itself is the best way to make sure you have it right.

Cheers,
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On 20 Jan 2004, at 5:58 pm, Barry Levine wrote:

I do have one question, though (for now). I have a folder that has a 
space as part of its name (my folder for example). How would one 
specify this folder as the source? I get an error that is obviously 
due to the Terminal mis-parsing the folder name as a result of the 
space. I have placed the folder path into a field but referencing the 
field leaves that darn space. I imagine I'd have to replace that 
space with an ASCII code?
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Re: Height/width limit on groups?

2004-01-20 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
I love it

I am too lazy to get that creative.

My scripts when I know no one will see them are more like
put as(mygrs, mygrp, 2233) into mydd1
which is just awful..
What are some good topics to associate with scripting of this nature?

Birds are good - What else might work?

Tom

On Jan 20, 2004, at 5:51 PM, Mark Brownell wrote:

On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 02:32  PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:

Messaging would be a great addition.  Green room and wings is a great 
way to visualize it as well.

Dar wrote: Green room and wings
I was getting something like this:

put buzzOff(greenSlime, flapWings, 2233) into bird1

You should see my code when I don't care if anyone ever sees it. I 
once wrote a function that had a cat chasing a dog that ended up in a 
mouse trap. It was really part of a home grown HTML parser.

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Re: custom tab buttons

2004-01-20 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
  put the hilitedButtonName of grp tabControl
  hide grp Tab One
  hide grp Tab Two
  hide grp Tab Three
  put the hilitedButtonName of grp tabControl into t
Why did you put in the first line here? What does it do?

Thanks

Tom

On Jan 20, 2004, at 2:25 PM, Chipp Walters wrote:

open URL http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/RunRev/tabExample.rev;
Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.1, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 
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Re: Height/width limit on groups?

2004-01-20 Thread Mark Brownell
On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 03:38  PM, Dar Scott wrote:

For example, if an object was near the window of visibility and might 
be quickly scrolled into it, then it would be in wings.  If it would 
take lots of scrolling or some hops to get to it, then it would be in 
green room.
I get it. Stage, standing in the wings,  off stage waiting room.

I probably butchered the terminology as those in theater might already 
see.

Dar Scott
I think you've got it. If I wanted to butcher the terminology I would 
use chops, cleaver, slab, and block...  :-)

Then you could sell it with slogans like Where's the beef?

Mark

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Re: Height/width limit on groups?

2004-01-20 Thread Mark Brownell
On Tuesday, January 20, 2004, at 03:31  PM, Thomas J McGrath III wrote:

My scripts when I know no one will see them are more like
put as(mygrs, mygrp, 2233) into mydd1
which is just awful..
What are some good topics to associate with scripting of this nature?
with Rev's very cool object style you could stash a bunch of functions 
that could allow you to make calls that actually do something useful 
but sound completely off the wall. I love this stuff too. I burnt all 
the free brain cells for today otherwise I'd slap something together.

imagine this:

if the dog 8 my homework then
   change my grade
end if
this would log into a secure database and improve your grades.
or it could give you a break on your taxes... :-)
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Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 4, Issue 136

2004-01-20 Thread Dr . John R . Vokey
Good gollyla Miss Mollyla!

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Dar-

 Think globala, act locala.

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OT: CD Burner woes

2004-01-20 Thread David Squance
Hi Group,
I hesitate to bring this up to this list, since it's OT, but there's been
some discussion of CD burning, so it's close.  I'm looking for some advice
re my Que external which hasn't worked since I left OS 9.1.  As a hobbyist,
I'm not a high-volume distribution producer, and my first project was just
for one local situation, and I managed with a superdrive (single platform).
But now I want to burn CDs.  I'm running OS10.3.2, the drive is a QPS 525
(USB).  Is there any hope of getting a driver for it that will work?  Or
should I bite the bullet and get a new one?
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Re: strange reply message

2004-01-20 Thread Thomas J McGrath III
I owuld ocnsider globala an infamuos creatoin.

And that only happens to me when I've sent or received a rather large 
email. My Dad always sends me very large junk type emails. I hate it 
cause it then fills my quota from my ISP.
This is why I always keep more than one email address. I have seven 
right now.

Tom

On Jan 20, 2004, at 4:54 PM, Ray G. Miller wrote:

Revers,
For every message I sent to the list, I get a Mailbox full. Can't 
deliver message! Yet all the messages are delivered. Anyone else 
getting this strangeness?

Ray
developer of the famous globala
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question about the templateGraphic

2004-01-20 Thread Doug Lerner
Does anybody know exactly what is cleared when the templateGraphic gets
reset?

In an app I am doing it seems that sometimes the points from a previous
graphic end up hanging around in subsequent graphics I create.

Thanks,

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RE: custom tab buttons

2004-01-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Tom,

You can change the icon of a button and KEEP the name of the button visible
if you like. You can also have the text on the left, below, or to the right
by playing around with the text alignment of the button as well. I think
this satisfies what you want to do...

-Chipp


 It is too bad we can't use the imageSource to change a char in a button
 name to a graphic in the button name... It is just text after all just
 like a field.

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Re: Working with externals question

2004-01-20 Thread Alex Rice
On Jan 20, 2004, at 3:01 PM, Bojsza wrote:
trigger -F test.cfg -r data.04
In transcript, no external required!
get shell(trigger -F test.cfg -r data.04)
If it really needs to be an external, then look at the standard library  
routine system().
	int result = system(trigger -F test.cfg -r data.04);
make sure to read `man system` for info about error signals and other  
considerations.

The system call doesn't return any data however.
	int result = system(trigger -F test.cfg -r data.04  outputfile);
Then the stdout of trigger is put in outputfile.
sprintf() could be used to build up the arguments to the trigger  
command.

Is the a way to tell if the external knows the existence of the  
function or command?
Not sure if this is what you mean: See the UNIX command which. It  
tells you if a command exists in the current PATH, and if so, what the  
location of the executable is. For example

which java
/opt/IBMJava2-14/bin/java
which nothing
which: no nothing in  
(/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/games:/opt/IBMJava2 
-14/bin:.)

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Challenge for a Rev/Unix Mac expert

2004-01-20 Thread rgould8
I mailed a posting a few days ago about a problem I was having with Revolution when 
launching a unix command-line application with the shell() command.  The problem I'm 
having is that the first time this particular unix call is invoked, it requires the 
Mac OS X authentification popup to display, which causes Revolution to hang for some 
reason.  

I've come to realize that really the only way to get help with this is to show you 
want I'm talking about, and that's going to involve me creating a little web-page with 
the download of the source code and the unix call.

http://librarytools.com/helpneeded.htm

The .rev app is only 5 lines of code, and 1 button.  Very simple - - - and very simple 
to reproduce the problem.

The unix command is called PPPSetup.  It basically dials the Mac modem and logs in 
to the dialup server using whatever phone # and username and password is provided.  If 
you run this from the terminal, it runs perfectly every time.   If you run the rev 
app, it will hang itself the first time you authenticate.  Then, hit FORCE-QUIT, then 
run it again, and it will be fine from then on out.

The only solutions I can possibly think of are:

1)  Have someone write a Carbon app on the Mac which just does the PPPSetup call with 
the parameters I've supplied, which then authenticates with the popup, and then 
sublaunches my main Rev app.  If someone knows how to do this, or is willing to try 
this as an experiment, please let me know.

2)  Perhaps there's a way to write a standalone Applescript application that will do a 
shell to this PPPSetup command, and then sublaunch my main REV application.  However, 
I suspect that Applescript may have the same hanging problem.

3)  Perhaps I could give someone the source-code to the PPPSetup unix call and see if 
there's some way to make it recover from the authentification popup.  I don't know C, 
so I can't troubleshoot this myself.

4)  If someone can find a working Applescript that will dial a modem with a 
username/password to a specific telephone #, that would be a great solution.  However, 
I have yet to see such a working script.  (lots of examples of just dialing, but no 
examples of dialing with username/password - - - you have to have applescript create a 
configuration first, and the folks on the AS listserve I'm on don't seem to think it's 
possible.  It is in the Applescript dictionary for Internet connect, but I haven't 
found a technique or script that actually works)

I already tried the SUDO command on this PPPSetup app, but since it's really an app 
and not just a command-line call, SUDO doesn't seem to like that approach.

Any solutions to this problem are GREATLY appreciated.  My present solution is to have 
Mindvision Installer VISE run PPPSetup and then sublaunch my REV app.  This works, but 
it's sloppy.  I'd like to do it all in Rev if at all possible.

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ButtonGadget on the Mac...

2004-01-20 Thread Chipp Walters
Hi all,

I'm busy porting ButtonGadget to the Mac. I've only got an I-Book with
Panther on it. I'm using the latest vers of RR and I've stumbled onto a real
problem...

Those of you with Macs, can you do me a favor and next time you're in Rev
type in the msg:

open URL http://www.altuit.com/webs/altuit2/test2/alphatest.rev;

This is a simple test for setting the alphadata of one image to the
alphadata of another image. Can you please click the test button and report
back (via the Email link on the stack) the result?

My finding is that the alphadata cannot be set from the first image to the
second image on the Mac, whereas it works just fine on the PC. Any insights
will be helpful as well :-)

best,

Chipp


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