RE: Shell start with value
Thanks for the reply, Hey gave this a try, and tried some variations of it and still what I get is, windows cannot find IPLoc , thinks its and executable. I removed the location string and put the executable (setx.exe) in a path folder. Should have just said the commmand I'm trying to run from the command line is: setx IPLoc tIPadd -m IPLoc is just a descriptive word to represent the IP location and tIPadd is the string with the captured ip address in it. The environment result from runnng set at the cmd window would look: IPLoc=192.168.1.1 Thanks Michael On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 06:47 +0200, MisterX wrote: for one, if there is a space in location, this will fail. You will need to eclose it in quotes. Second the iploc and tipadd are strings not values in the quotes. get shell (start quote location setx.exe quote IPLoc tIPadd) should work better cheers Xavier http://monsieurx.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 06:39 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Shell start with value Hello, Have run into something I just seem to not solve and asking if someone may have an answer to this one. I'm running the shell command for and environment add and need to add the value with it, but of couse just get IPLOC=tIPadd. tIPadd is the value of and ipaddress. Anyone know how I can get this in there, its WinXP so I'm using the setx.exe file to get the environment add global. get shell (start location setx.exe IPLoc tIPadd) Thanks for any help Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Shell start with value
Ok should have given it 10 more minutes, Now I'm seeing it ! got the line to work thanks for the direction, got it this way, put setx iploc quote tiPadd quote -m into sSetenv get shell (sSetenv) set the hideConsoleWindows to true Thanks !! MisterX On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 06:47 +0200, MisterX wrote: for one, if there is a space in location, this will fail. You will need to eclose it in quotes. Second the iploc and tipadd are strings not values in the quotes. get shell (start quote location setx.exe quote IPLoc tIPadd) should work better cheers Xavier http://monsieurx.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 06:39 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Shell start with value Hello, Have run into something I just seem to not solve and asking if someone may have an answer to this one. I'm running the shell command for and environment add and need to add the value with it, but of couse just get IPLOC=tIPadd. tIPadd is the value of and ipaddress. Anyone know how I can get this in there, its WinXP so I'm using the setx.exe file to get the environment add global. get shell (start location setx.exe IPLoc tIPadd) Thanks for any help Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Shell start with value
For most shell batches, if found it extremely useful to 1 test it in a real batch... this proves the shell command HAS to work 2 put the whole shell command into a variable - this makes it easier to debug... 3 Always enclose the paths (or verify that it needs) with quotes. The verification is real easy: if there is a space in mypath or is in mypath then quoteit(mypath) Last but not least, and this is a real tough one to find: make sure that the directory is a valid path before launching your shell. hope that gets you going! cheers -=- Xavier Bury [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 27/07/2005 12:22:14: Ok should have given it 10 more minutes, Now I'm seeing it ! got the line to work thanks for the direction, got it this way, put setx iploc quote tiPadd quote -m into sSetenv get shell (sSetenv) set the hideConsoleWindows to true Thanks !! MisterX On Tue, 2005-07-26 at 06:47 +0200, MisterX wrote: for one, if there is a space in location, this will fail. You will need to eclose it in quotes. Second the iploc and tipadd are strings not values in the quotes. get shell (start quote location setx.exe quote IPLoc tIPadd) should work better cheers Xavier http://monsieurx.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 06:39 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Shell start with value Hello, Have run into something I just seem to not solve and asking if someone may have an answer to this one. I'm running the shell command for and environment add and need to add the value with it, but of couse just get IPLOC=tIPadd. tIPadd is the value of and ipaddress. Anyone know how I can get this in there, its WinXP so I'm using the setx.exe file to get the environment add global. get shell (start location setx.exe IPLoc tIPadd) Thanks for any help Michael ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution - Visit us at http://www.clearstream.com IMPORTANT MESSAGE Internet communications are not secure and therefore Clearstream International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. The information contained in this e-mail is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of Clearstream International or of any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. END OF DISCLAIMER ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac - Win problems
On Jul 27, 2005, at 1:50 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: If you do a search on the mailing list for cross platform fonts you'll get tons of hits. Here's Dar's info: http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/ msg26708.html Thanks very much. Since Dar's table shows that even Courier and Courier New (the two choices for a monospaced font that have to be available cover all relevant systems) have different metrics (!), it becomes clear that for my situation Phil Davis's screenshot approach is the best solution. I'm working on it now. Excellent. Charles ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Newbie ? Answered
Hi Everyone If you've been following my problems I'll give you an update. I converted my first HC stack yesterday. The first thing that went wrong was that when I tried to add a menubar all my objects disappeared. It turned out that I forgot to check off the Set as menubar for Mac OS box in the menu builder. When I did that I could start a new menubar and edit it to my heart's content. That was fine until I tried to edit the new menubar. In the menubuilder everything was grayed out. This problem was solved too when I went to the inspector and brought up the menubar. When I unchecked Behave like a background I solved that problem. For the moment at least I'm doing fine for now. Chances are you'll hear from me later today as my conversion education continues. Even with these problems I know I have to and enthusiastically want to finally wean myself from HyperCard. I expect that will happen by the end of the year. Thanks for everyone's help. Joe Orlando, FL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Saving a Standalone
I'm attempting to add a bit of smarts to the Save As Standalone function. When I save a standalone to the same location on my hard drive, If Revs finds a previous folder with the same base name, it dutifully increments the number. I.e. if I have a few previous versions I get a set of folders like this (assuming the base name is revstack 1.0a): /Users/myname/Desktop/revstack 1.0a/ /Users/myname/Desktop/revstack 1.0a1/ /Users/myname/Desktop/revstack 1.0a2/ /Users/myname/Desktop/revstack 1.0a3/ etc. Now inside each of these folders is the actual application saved under the base name - something like this: /Users/myname/Desktop/revstack 1.0a/revstack 1.0a.exe /Users/myname/Desktop/revstack 1.0a1/revstack 1.0a.exe /Users/myname/Desktop/revstack 1.0a2/revstack 1.0a.exe /Users/myname/Desktop/revstack 1.0a3/revstack 1.0a.exe What I want to do is include a version number (which is stored in a field in the stack) as part of the application name. so I could get something like this: /Users/myname/Desktop/revstack 1.0a/revstack 1.0a12.exe /Users/myname/Desktop/revstack 1.0a1/revstack 1.0a13.exe /Users/myname/Desktop/revstack 1.0a2/revstack 1.0a14.exe /Users/myname/Desktop/revstack 1.0a3/revstack 1.0b1.exe (I'm not too worried about the enclosing folder at this point - but that might be nice too...) My basic approach was to use a shell command to rename the file with my version info. I was going to use the Standalonesaved msg to automate the whole thing, but ran into a problem in that the standalonesaved msg doesn't return the increment number that revolution adds to the enclosing folder (Desktop in this case) - i.e. I don't know how many previous versions might already exist in the directory I'm saving to. This makes deriving a path much more complex. I suppose I could use a shell script to delete any folders that might already exist with the base name and then things might work... Any comments/suggestions/help would be appreciated. (Oh yes, I'm on a Mac OS X and saving Windows Standalones...) Thanks, David ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: bugzilla bug?
You can't search Bugzilla in Safari. Use Firefox instead. Devin On Jul 26, 2005, at 6:09 PM, Charles Hartman wrote: Does anybody else have a problem searching the bugzilla using Safari? Whenever I try I get an error message saying that The page you opened redirected you to a page that isn't supported by Safari. It adds, Safari can't open the page blah blah because it cannot redirect to locations starting with 'http:'. I'm afraid I might be adding redundant bug reports if I can't search. Charles ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac - Win problems
Charles, I'm jumping in late in the game, and basing my memory of what you're trying to do on my quick read through of your original message yesterday. If I understand it correctly, you are trying to accurately position some kind of diacritical markings above specific letters in a text field? Let me suggest an alternative that might avoid the cross-platform font metric issues. I did a project similar to this a couple of years ago, in which I needed to position Pinyin tone marks above vowels in romanized Chinese syllables. The tone marks were images. I used the formattedWidth property of the chunk of text up to and including the letter to be marked, then calculated the horizontal distance from the edge of the card to the letter in question and positioned the image there. For example: | _ |- left of card |chunk in fld| | |- left of fld | | || | || | _| If I wanted to position the mark over the u in chunk I would use the left of fld myfld + the formattedWidth of char 1 to 3 of fld myfld as the baseline x value, then by trial and error find the proper x and y adjustments to get my image to display at the desired spot. This method should work regardless of font and size because the formattedWidth takes the current font settings of the chunk into account. HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac - Win problems
Thanks very much. That isn't what I'm trying to do -- not any more. Originally I did want to do that, so as to line up metrical scansion marks -- rather like diacritics, you're right -- over text. But I didn't know about the formattedWidth property (which turns out to be nifty now that I know to look it up), so couldn't see how to get the metric of the text itself. I resorted to doing all my scansions in Courier, where I could control the relation between lines. Of course it's uglier than a proportional font would be. If I were a Good Person I'd go back and use the method you suggest -- but it would involve, at a guess, several hundred example lines, and I don't have the heart. My recent problem has been simply to line up blank, opaque fields covering the scansion marks, and reveal them at (the user's) will. I'm now solving that with Phil Davis's screenshot approach, which works fine for my purposes. Thanks again -- learn something every day. Charles On Jul 27, 2005, at 11:25 AM, Devin Asay wrote: Charles, I'm jumping in late in the game, and basing my memory of what you're trying to do on my quick read through of your original message yesterday. If I understand it correctly, you are trying to accurately position some kind of diacritical markings above specific letters in a text field? Let me suggest an alternative that might avoid the cross-platform font metric issues. I did a project similar to this a couple of years ago, in which I needed to position Pinyin tone marks above vowels in romanized Chinese syllables. The tone marks were images. I used the formattedWidth property of the chunk of text up to and including the letter to be marked, then calculated the horizontal distance from the edge of the card to the letter in question and positioned the image there. For example: | _ |- left of card |chunk in fld| | |- left of fld | | || | || | _| If I wanted to position the mark over the u in chunk I would use the left of fld myfld + the formattedWidth of char 1 to 3 of fld myfld as the baseline x value, then by trial and error find the proper x and y adjustments to get my image to display at the desired spot. This method should work regardless of font and size because the formattedWidth takes the current font settings of the chunk into account. HTH Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Fonts Unicode
On Jul 26, 2005, at 2:49 PM, Brad Borch wrote: 4. If the text pasted in is styled text from a Unicode font, the htmlText reflects this: font face=TITUS Cyberbit Basic lang=el#945;#946;#948;#966;#949;/font Note the lang='el' parameter. The el stands for Ellinas, which is the Greek word for... Greek. Presumably Rev looks at the range the character is in, determines what language it is, and sets this parameter accordingly. I get confused about what Rev thinks language means. In the unicode conversion names it seems to mean encoding scheme. Since this is pseudo-html, this may mean something else, but might mean encoding scheme. The codes are too high for any 8-bit encoding. One of the things I kept forgetting to do was set the language in the font property. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Updates on MonsieurX
MisterX- Tuesday, July 26, 2005, 10:05:23 PM, you wrote: M Note: Most of the plugins were renamed from N2O to NO2 M The proper molecule in nitro-methane... not nitrous oxide... ROTFL. That *does* put things in a whole different light... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: ANN: Updates on MonsieurX
i know! ;) Everyone tought i had dentist anesthaetic laughin gas when i really had an explosive mix of productivity boosting tools ;) cheeriup! Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Wieder Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 19:32 To: 'How to use Revolution' Subject: Re: ANN: Updates on MonsieurX MisterX- Tuesday, July 26, 2005, 10:05:23 PM, you wrote: M Note: Most of the plugins were renamed from N2O to NO2 The proper M molecule in nitro-methane... not nitrous oxide... ROTFL. That *does* put things in a whole different light... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Mac-Win revisited
1. The problem I reported about the disappearing cursor does have a temporary solution, which I got from one of the comments in the Bugzilla report: include in some stack script the lines delete stack revCursors reset cursors Presto. And that should suggest a fix for the bug, shouldn't it? 2. Is there some way to quit the Dreamcard Player in Windows without Ctrl-Alt-Delete? Do I have to build an entire menu system just for that, which I have no use for in the Mac version? Charles ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Dumb question time
jbv wrote: The only issue I've ever seen with the sort command turned out to be documented: the string library used for it requires that none of the lines exceeds 64k (65,535 characters). When sorting lines in which one or more is longer than 64k the results will be unpredictable and likely confusing. I know, I've seen 'em -- sure confused the heck out of me until I learned this limit. :) Thanks for the info... is it documented in Rev ? I don't remember reading it anywhere... Not per se, or at least nothing connected with the sort container command that I could find. Given how big 64k is it rarely comes up in common use; I found out about it from a support email from Scott Raney after one of my customers was having an inexplicable issue with WebMerge. It's worth noting that for all customers I have and all the strange things they do with WebMerge (I have one customer go generates 300,000 pages at a time with it) the 64k-per-line limit only came up once in the three years I've been selling the product. In that customer's case we were able to recommend a better workflow for them: they had one field that contained short stories, but it made their work more flexible to simply leave the short story in a separate file and reference the file from their database, allowing them to edit the story file without going into the database. In recent years I've been using lists as RAM-based database tables with good results, and haven't had any record get even close to 64k as long as I provide support for referencing external files for things better suited for those. Not all lists will lend themselves to that, but when they do you get to keep enjoying the simplicity and efficiency of chunk expressions for everything else, and a pretty good sort command. :) -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Justify text in a field
Hi Developers, After reading these messages about Mac and Win fonts issues, i remember about a code that Colin Holgate contributed in the HyperCard list, that used text properties named extended and condensed to simulate justification in a text field. This code does not work in RR. so, i ask this question to every developer: Do you have working code to create justified text, or something that resemble this, within a RR field? Thanks in advance. al Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: bugzilla bug?
Wow, yes, RevZilla is very cool indeed. Thanks! Charles On Jul 26, 2005, at 11:45 PM, Ken Ray wrote: On 7/26/05 7:09 PM, Charles Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody else have a problem searching the bugzilla using Safari? Whenever I try I get an error message saying that The page you opened redirected you to a page that isn't supported by Safari. It adds, Safari can't open the page blah blah because it cannot redirect to locations starting with 'http:'. Personally I don't use a browser to search Bugzilla - I use RevZilla instead (it's so much easier): http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/RevZilla2.htm :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Mac-Win revisited
probably... but a close window = closerequest = quit should do it nothing major... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Hartman Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 20:14 To: How to use Revolution Subject: Mac-Win revisited 1. The problem I reported about the disappearing cursor does have a temporary solution, which I got from one of the comments in the Bugzilla report: include in some stack script the lines delete stack revCursors reset cursors Presto. And that should suggest a fix for the bug, shouldn't it? 2. Is there some way to quit the Dreamcard Player in Windows without Ctrl-Alt-Delete? Do I have to build an entire menu system just for that, which I have no use for in the Mac version? Charles ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Justify text in a field
Hi All only with monospace fonts... but it works horizontal or vertically ;) sorry Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alejandro Tejada Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 20:29 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Justify text in a field Hi Developers, After reading these messages about Mac and Win fonts issues, i remember about a code that Colin Holgate contributed in the HyperCard list, that used text properties named extended and condensed to simulate justification in a text field. This code does not work in RR. so, i ask this question to every developer: Do you have working code to create justified text, or something that resemble this, within a RR field? Thanks in advance. al Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Workaround request - textcolor property in a field in a group
Greeting group. I am stuck trying to meet a deadline and can't remember some trivia about textcolor property applied to text within a field. For some reason this worked last night, but now as I am getting ready to distribute.. no go. Task setting the textcolor of items in a field in a group this way using tabStops + set itemDel to tab --these work set the backgroundcolor of fld AA of bg betDisplayA to pink set the textcolor of fld AA of bg betDisplayA to darkblue --does not work on this field, but does on others set the textcolor of word 2 of line 2 of fld AA of bg betDisplayA to green works from the message box set the textcolor of word 1 of line 2 of fld comingAttractions to green set the textcolor of item 2 of line 3 of fld comingAttractions to green ANSWER -- I am screwed. I did testing on a single group (background) using the following (note carefully the field specification I used to test the syntax and effect) (field AA is contained in a group, and there is only one group) set the textcolor of word 2 of line 2 of fld AA to green -- works, so now I can do other programming! I then built a whole interface on the concept of colored text using field chunks The next level of complexity was to duplicate the constructed [field.button.group] 8 times and write the code. After hours of debugging other intricate tasks, I now find that setting the color of a text chunk will not work if the field is in a group This may have been covered already (most likely has) but I am now at my deadline and have malarky to show the client. Add to this that the dictionary textcolor¹ is linked to foregroundcolor¹, so there might be a note not to use bg whatever, but I could not get to it using the documentation. Very painful and costly lesson learned here. Is there a workaround I could do in an hour or two? (I am pretty fast with Transcript) Thanks in advance for your help Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Application on Task -Dan Shafer Book
I sent the stack to the email address that was in your response. Hopefully you got it. Thank you, Michael -- Forwarded Message From: Michael Mandaville [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 11:41:33 -0700 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Application on Task -Dan Shafer Book I'm a Newbie, working through the Tutorials and Dan Shafer's book. So far, I've built the application up to page 266 in the book Revolution However, while I've gone over the scripts more than a few times, I don't believe that I have any errors and that they're in the right places, i.e., object, stack, etc., I still cannot populate the list or txt file with a task. If anybody is familiar with the Dan Shafter app, I would appreciate some guidance to get me past this roadblock. Happy to share the final app - with my hopefully correct comments - with anybody who wants it. I can email the stack at will. Thank you, Michael Mandaville -- End of Forwarded Message ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac-Win revisited
Charles Hartman wrote: 2. Is there some way to quit the Dreamcard Player in Windows without Ctrl-Alt-Delete? Do I have to build an entire menu system just for that, which I have no use for in the Mac version? Quit the Player itself, or the stack you are currently playing ? In either case, AFAICT, the usual Windows methods work OK - Alt-F4 - the little X icon in the title bar - right-click on title bar and select Close -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 22/07/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac-Win revisited
On Jul 27, 2005, at 3:29 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: 2. Is there some way to quit the Dreamcard Player in Windows without Ctrl-Alt-Delete? Do I have to build an entire menu system just for that, which I have no use for in the Mac version? Quit the Player itself, or the stack you are currently playing ? In either case, AFAICT, the usual Windows methods work OK - Alt-F4 - the little X icon in the title bar - right-click on title bar and select Close I want (the user no matter how addled to be able) to quit the Player. But the little X icon in the title bar does _not_ do it. That closes (each) stack, but leaves the Player sitting there in memory. Not being used to Windows, it took me a while to find that out. I certainly don't trust my users to know it. So I'm putting a nice, big QUIT button on the menu/map substack. Thanks. Charles ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Justify text in a field
You could have a script do this: - get the formattedrect of a block of text - calculate how far from the left of the field that block of text needs to be - insert a few spaces to the left of the block of text - check the formattedrect of the block of text again - keep inserting (or deleting if you go too far to the right) spaces until item 1 of the formattedrect of the block of text is close enough to be where it needs to be. - if you really want to be neurotic, you can use spaces with a really small font size, so that the width of a space is only 1 or 2 pixels! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MisterX Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 3:24 PM To: 'How to use Revolution' Subject: RE: Justify text in a field Hi All only with monospace fonts... but it works horizontal or vertically ;) sorry Xav -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alejandro Tejada Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 20:29 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Justify text in a field Hi Developers, After reading these messages about Mac and Win fonts issues, i remember about a code that Colin Holgate contributed in the HyperCard list, that used text properties named extended and condensed to simulate justification in a text field. This code does not work in RR. so, i ask this question to every developer: Do you have working code to create justified text, or something that resemble this, within a RR field? Thanks in advance. al Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Flashing numbers added to Number Picker stack.
I just finished a small stack to select my 9th grade chemistry students (sitting at numbered lab tables) at random. I have 25 students and used the following script to select one at random, then speak that number: on mouseUp put random (25) into field field1 revsetspeechvoice ralph revspeak field field1 wait 4 sec put empty into field field1 end mouseUp To add a little flair, I would like numbers to quickly flash on the screen for one or two seconds before it stops at the random number. Looked through the documentation but found nothing. Any suggestions? I don't need it if it is too difficult but thought I would ask. I'm too new to Revolution to know how much it involves. Doug Gilliland Sarasota, FL ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Flashing numbers added to Number Picker stack.
--- Douglas Gilliland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just finished a small stack to select my 9th grade chemistry students (sitting at numbered lab tables) at random. I have 25 students and used the following script to select one at random, then speak that number: on mouseUp put random (25) into field field1 revsetspeechvoice ralph revspeak field field1 wait 4 sec put empty into field field1 end mouseUp To add a little flair, I would like numbers to quickly flash on the screen for one or two seconds before it stops at the random number. Looked through the documentation but found nothing. Any suggestions? I don't need it if it is too difficult but thought I would ask. I'm too new to Revolution to know how much it involves. Doug Gilliland Hi Doug, Here's a quick idea: -- on mouseUp ## show some numbers during 2 seconds repeat 10 times put random (25) into field field1 wait 200 milliseconds end repeat ## now the code you already had put random (25) into field field1 revsetspeechvoice ralph revspeak field field1 wait 4 sec put empty into field field1 end mouseUp -- Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. Quartam - Tools for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac-Win revisited
Charles Hartman wrote: On Jul 27, 2005, at 3:29 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: 2. Is there some way to quit the Dreamcard Player in Windows without Ctrl-Alt-Delete? Do I have to build an entire menu system just for that, which I have no use for in the Mac version? Quit the Player itself, or the stack you are currently playing ? In either case, AFAICT, the usual Windows methods work OK - Alt-F4 - the little X icon in the title bar - right-click on title bar and select Close I want (the user no matter how addled to be able) to quit the Player. But the little X icon in the title bar does _not_ do it. Yes it does work, exactly as I and other Windows users would expect it to work. It closes the app (or window) in whose title bar you are at the time (or which has focus when you do Alt-F4). That's what Windows *always* does. That closes (each) stack, but leaves the Player sitting there in memory. Not being used to Windows, it took me a while to find that out. I certainly don't trust my users to know it. So I'm putting a nice, big QUIT button on the menu/map substack. I'd be inclined to expect your users to know it - standard Windows behaviour. Why should closing one window/instance close any others ? Using a button linked to a script containing a quit should do what you want - though I personally think that's a bug. See BZ 2596 and 2597. A quit in a stack within the player causes the entire player to quit *including* any other stack currently running within that player. You can run any number of stacks within a Player (and cannot run multiple instances of the Player) - so if you need to have two stacks running simultaneously, and one quits, the other exits also, taking with it potentially any unsaved work. btw - I think I had one stack that tried to use quit and it didn't work - but after I discovered the problems in 2597, I stopped trying to do it, so didn't pursue that issue all the way to the end ... so make sure you test it thoroughly (as if I had to say that, sorry). -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 22/07/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Workaround request - textcolor property in a field in a group
Hi Jim, Grasping at straws here, but maybe it'll awaken something in your brain: Does the text of field AA contain CRs (which define lines), or does it just look like multiple lines, 'soft' wrapping and and flowing without having any CRs in it? If the latter, that would explain why you can't select a chunk in line 2. That's all I can see for the moment... Phil Davis Jim Ault wrote: Greeting group. I am stuck trying to meet a deadline and can't remember some trivia about textcolor property applied to text within a field. For some reason this worked last night, but now as I am getting ready to distribute.. no go. Task setting the textcolor of items in a field in a group this way using tabStops + set itemDel to tab --these work set the backgroundcolor of fld AA of bg betDisplayA to pink set the textcolor of fld AA of bg betDisplayA to darkblue --does not work on this field, but does on others set the textcolor of word 2 of line 2 of fld AA of bg betDisplayA to green works from the message box set the textcolor of word 1 of line 2 of fld comingAttractions to green set the textcolor of item 2 of line 3 of fld comingAttractions to green ANSWER -- I am screwed. I did testing on a single group (background) using the following (note carefully the field specification I used to test the syntax and effect) (field AA is contained in a group, and there is only one group) set the textcolor of word 2 of line 2 of fld AA to green -- works, so now I can do other programming! I then built a whole interface on the concept of colored text using field chunks The next level of complexity was to duplicate the constructed [field.button.group] 8 times and write the code. After hours of debugging other intricate tasks, I now find that setting the color of a text chunk will not work if the field is in a group This may have been covered already (most likely has) but I am now at my deadline and have malarky to show the client. Add to this that the dictionary Œtextcolor¹ is linked to Œforegroundcolor¹, so there might be a note not to use bg whatever, but I could not get to it using the documentation. Very painful and costly lesson learned here. Is there a workaround I could do in an hour or two? (I am pretty fast with Transcript) Thanks in advance for your help Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Flashing numbers added to Number Picker stack.
Jan, It works even better than I thought it would. Thanks for the quick script - it is greatly appreciated. Doug Gilliland Sarasota, FL On 7/27/05, Jan Schenkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Douglas Gilliland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just finished a small stack to select my 9th grade chemistry students (sitting at numbered lab tables) at random. I have 25 students and used the following script to select one at random, then speak that number: on mouseUp put random (25) into field field1 revsetspeechvoice ralph revspeak field field1 wait 4 sec put empty into field field1 end mouseUp To add a little flair, I would like numbers to quickly flash on the screen for one or two seconds before it stops at the random number. Looked through the documentation but found nothing. Any suggestions? I don't need it if it is too difficult but thought I would ask. I'm too new to Revolution to know how much it involves. Doug Gilliland Hi Doug, Here's a quick idea: -- on mouseUp ## show some numbers during 2 seconds repeat 10 times put random (25) into field field1 wait 200 milliseconds end repeat ## now the code you already had put random (25) into field field1 revsetspeechvoice ralph revspeak field field1 wait 4 sec put empty into field field1 end mouseUp -- Hope this helped, Jan Schenkel. Quartam - Tools for Revolution http://www.quartam.com = As we grow older, we grow both wiser and more foolish at the same time. (La Rochefoucauld) Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ANN: Updates on MonsieurX
MisterX- I was imagining you with secret ties to an international ring of dentist spies... The tooth? You can't *handle* the tooth ...bwaaahaha... -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Crossword Generator
Has anyone made a crossword generator in Rev? URL? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Workaround request - textcolor property in a field in a group
I am stuck trying to meet a deadline and can't remember some trivia about textcolor property applied to text within a field. For some reason this worked last night, but now as I am getting ready to distribute.. no go. Task setting the textcolor of items in a field in a group this way using tabStops + set itemDel to tab --these work set the backgroundcolor of fld AA of bg betDisplayA to pink set the textcolor of fld AA of bg betDisplayA to darkblue --does not work on this field, but does on others set the textcolor of word 2 of line 2 of fld AA of bg betDisplayA to green works from the message box set the textcolor of word 1 of line 2 of fld comingAttractions to green set the textcolor of item 2 of line 3 of fld comingAttractions to green Jim, I don't know if this makes any difference, but I always use forecolor to set the color of text. I can successfully set the color of text in a field that is a member of a group, but I don't have the group specified in the script. Do you have to use the group's name? Other workarounds you could try would be to specify a range of words or a range of characters and see if this worked. Or try using the RGB values for the color. Or try setting the color of your chunk to empty first and then setting the new color. None of these should be necessary, but as you are approaching your deadline, I thought I would offer them as things to try. And finally, to cheer you up, a quote from Douglas Adams: I love deadlines - I love the whooshing noise they make as they go by. :-) Good luck, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac-Win revisited
On Jul 27, 2005, at 4:50 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Yes it does work, exactly as I and other Windows users would expect it to work. It closes the app (or window) in whose title bar you are at the time (or which has focus when you do Alt-F4). That's what Windows *always* does. Yes, I understand that. The problem is that after you close all (up to) three stacks in my app, you think you've quit the Player; but you haven't. I've tried out the Quit (with just an OK or Cancel), and it seems to work. If this thing gets more elaborate, and there's data to save, I'll move carefully. Thanks again. Charles ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Justify text in a field
on Wed, 27 Jul 2005 xavier wrote: only with monospace fonts... but it works horizontal or vertically ;) Monospaced only! I hoped for a more proportional solution. ;-) Jonathan Lynch wrote: You could have a script do this: - get the formattedrect of a block of text Do you mean the formattedrect of a single line? - calculate how far from the left of the field that block of text needs to be - insert a few spaces to the left of the block of text if i remember well, Colin inserted spaces between words, and set the styles of words to extended and condensed, but i could not find his code now. :-( - check the formattedrect of the block of text again - keep inserting (or deleting if you go too far to the right) spaces until item 1 of the formattedrect of the block of text is close enough to be where it needs to be. In scrolling fields this could take a while. Did you had some timings available for this technique? In this way i could know beforehand if it is user's friendly. - if you really want to be neurotic, you can use spaces with a really small font size, so that the width of a space is only 1 or 2 pixels! This idea is fine and very precise, but what will happen if you had to copy and paste this text elsewhere. You'll be carrying a lot of empty space with the copied text, unless you perform some cleaning up in copied text. :-( Thanks a lot to Jonathan and Xavier for sharing their insights! al Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Crossword Generator
Mark Swindell wrote: Has anyone made a crossword generator in Rev? URL? No, but I made a Sudoku assistant. Is that close enough ? :-) -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 22/07/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
*ping* Jim Hurley
Sorry to bring this on list... Jim, did you receive my last 2 off-list mails? I fear spam filtering again. Cheers, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Workaround request - textcolor property in a field in a group
Jim Ault wrote: --does not work on this field, but does on others set the textcolor of word 2 of line 2 of fld AA of bg betDisplayA to green I just tried this. I get a failure with the above syntax, but success if I substitute grp for bg. That is, this works: set the textcolor of word 2 of line 2 of fld AA of grp betDisplayA to green This may not work if you aren't on the right card currently, as grp isn't a valid reference if it isn't placed on the current card. Note the quotes around the color name. Even though they are constants, the MC docs say color names should always be in quotes, so that is my habit. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revDocWiki
Richard, Thanks for the love! Yes, Transcript Gadget (which houses an imported xscript dictionary) is hooked up to Rev script editor or Constellation script editor. RIght click (control-click) on a xscript word in a scrpt and Transcript Gadget looks it up - OR - right click (control click) on a call to one of your handlers and Transcript Gadget finds the handler WHEREVER it might dwell and open it up in a script editor. This is the one gadget that keeps me from going insane trying to find a handler and figuring out what it does. If it will help the revDocWiki project, i can get the docs parsing code to whomever needs it. If we need it hooked up to a script editor (as mentioned above) perhaps we have an extension to Transcript Gadget? Just in town for supplies... Jerry http://daniels-mara.com/products/objectgadget.htm On Jul 26, 2005, at 5:23 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Chipp Walters wrote: Dan Shafer wrote: The docs are already in XML. Jerry Daniels has written a parser for them that gets used in his Transcript Gadget. I should mention the parser Jerry modified (and I did too, and even perhaps Mr. Sanke as well) originated from Richard Gaskin's generous contribution for his help stack for MC. Thanks Richard! My pleasure. And thanks for the thoughtful mention. I'm a big fan of both XML and the Rev object model, and I'm rather addicted to the Dictionary. My revised Dictionary shell attempts to deliver the best of both worlds: XML is a great format for authoring, as it allows the individual topics to be moved from team member to team member for authoring and review. But as we've seen, indexing and parsing them on the fly is, well, suboptimal. :) It's hard to beat Rev's native object model for efficiently traversing a body of work like this. Even with nearly 1500 entries the mcDictionary loads about as quickly as the XML-based one that ships with Rev, but is significantly faster for moving document-to-document, since you're only going card-to-card rather than loading files from disk and parsing XML CDATA on the fly. Jerry's done a wonderful job extending the mcDictionary stack, adding a lot of geat new functionality and a nifty Rossi-esque look. Since it only takes less than a minute to import the data into the stack, I hope one day we can see that incorporated into Rev's automated build process and have it shipped with the product. Jerry's is certainly worthy. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Workaround request - textcolor property in a field in a group
sez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Grasping at straws here, but maybe it'll awaken something in your brain: Does the text of field AA contain CRs (which define lines), or does it just look like multiple lines, 'soft' wrapping and and flowing without having any CRs in it? If the latter, that would explain why you can't select a chunk in line 2. A possibly useful hint: Try setting the firstIndent of the field to 75. However-many *real* lines of text you have in the field, each of those lines will magically acquire an inch-or-so of whitespace at its beginning. Hope this helps... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: ECMI
I've been somekind of invisible latelly, mostly due to university and the mayhem of trying to setup my pages... Well, here is a nice offer. I can host ECMI Pages, Files and lists at WeCode.Org. I have majordomo lists there, file space, anything we could want. No need to fuss with Yahoo!Groups stuff. Also we can run Rev CGIs in there. Cheers andre On Jul 25, 2005, at 5:46 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Mark Wieder wrote: Richard- Monday, July 25, 2005, 12:26:14 PM, you wrote: RG I agree wholeheartedly. While we have no control over the requirements RG Yahoo Groups has for file access, as I've written before we will have a That's interesting. In the past Yahoo allowed this control to the list owner. Has that changed? I don't know. I don't recall having seen anything different, but I've only been managing groups at Yahoo for a few years, since the acquisition from eGroups. I don't recall what the eGroups options were. These are the options Yahoo provides me: - Members (upload/modify/download files) - current setting - Limited (members can download files; moderators can upload/modify/download files) - Moderators only (upload/modify/download files) - Off (no one can access the Files feature) These appear to be the same for all of the Yahoo Groups I have admin access for. Which Yahoo Groups have you managed which allow another option? -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Andre Alves Garzia 2004 Soap Dog Studios - BRAZIL http://studio.soapdog.org ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Whiteboard Conferencing
Hi all, I have been searching for a simple electronic white board solution to go with video conferencing like ichat av. I just want to be able to do some quick text typed and perhaps shapes that everyone could doodle with virtually. I have not found a good solution with the mac (bitwise seems to be the simplest) so far and it dawned on me that this would be something that rev could easily do. so the first question is does anyone know of a good solution already out there or has anyone attempted this sort of thing with rev already? I realize it would probably need to be a web based solution, but it seems like something up rev's alley... thanks jeff reynolds ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revDocWiki
Jerry Daniels wrote: RIght click (control-click) on a xscript word in a scrpt and Transcript Gadget looks it up - OR - right click (control click) on a call to one of your handlers and Transcript Gadget finds the handler WHEREVER it might dwell and open it up in a script editor. Well, why didn't you *say* so. Finds your own handlers when you can't remember where you put them This is the one of the features of other IDEs that I've missed most in Rev (kind of indirectly - other IDEs may not exactly have this, but they have the approx equivalent). As far as I can tell, nothing on your web site actually mentions this important (to me) feature. Knowing this is included, I didn't even need to think about whether this fits in my recreational software budget for this year (it doesn't), I knew I wanted it anyway. I've just been and bought a copy - thank you for mentioning this feature on here ! -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.9.4/57 - Release Date: 22/07/2005 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
request for script or stack
Greetings, I'm sorry to whine, but I really miss my hyperCard command-F. The cursor was positioned in the message box to type my search term, between quotation marks, and away I went. Hit the return key for the next hit if I don't like the item I just found. Hit the return key as many times as I want. It worked about the same as typing find confabulation in Rev's message box. I think Rev is somewhat slower, but I can live with that. What I don't like is having to type the whole darned find command, including the quotation marks. Rev's command-F find window remains much slower than the Find command in the message box, even if both searches are restricted to the same stack and to field text only. I can't imagine why. I just tested it. I searched for Gloria in a fairly bulky stack that contains a lot of names. Typing find gloria in the message box found four instances almost instantly. Then I tried find gloria with Rev's command-F Find and Replace window. I clicked field text only, I chose this stack only, and I checked obey dontsearch properties. It was at least 1000 times slower, maybe 5000 times slower, or more. And, in 2.6.1, it's still not possible to abort a search in this window once you start one. If you accidentally start the wrong search, you could grow a beard before it was done searching. Both HC and Rev had their limits with the simple find command. HC didn't find whole very consistently, if you typed it into the message box. It would find whole just once. After that, if you kept hitting the return key, it would find word. In HC and Rev, if you get multiple hits on the same page, they keep cycling through the same hits on that page until you move to the next one. Then you can resume hitting the return key. So... I'd like to have a script that would start with maybe just a click on a button or a keystroke. It might give me my choice of find whole, find word, find string, or something like that. It would position the cursor in the suitable field, I wouldn't have to type quotation marks. It would search as fast as the find command typed into Rev's message box, or in a script. I could hit the return key (or maybe a button) repeatedly until I found the item I was looking for. AND, the find function wouldn't get stuck on one page if there were multiple hits on the same page. If it were a floating window, ideally, the window would move out of the way so I could see the hits underneath, and if the hits were in a scrolling field, the field would scroll so I could see the hits. Ideally, it would ignore invisible fields, unless maybe I turned that option on. (And in a perfect world, this would be a native feature in the next Rev upgrade.) I'm capable of writing a script that would do most of this stuff, or maybe it would be a small utility stack, but it takes me a long time, and it really isn't my hobby. I admit I sometimes get obsessed with that sort of thing. It actually feels like a sickness sometimes, if I get too obsessed. Weird... True confessions... It seems likely that someone has written a script or made a little stack that does about what I'm describing. If so, what's it called, where can I find it, and can I use it, please? I'd be grateful. I checked the Rev online stack archives, but didn't find anything. If I've overlooked some obvious way of doing all this very easily, it wouldn't surprise me a bit. In that case, please clue me. Cheers, Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Newbie ? Answered
On 7/27/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I have to and enthusiastically want to finally wean myself from HyperCard. I expect that will happen by the end of the year. Wow, and I thought I was still clinging to the past. 1 x Quadra 650 on 7.6, 1 x Performa 6400 on 8.6, 2 x Beige G3s on 9.2 and everything else on OSX, yet I came to the conclusion that I had to move from HC years ago. Looked at RealBasic for a short while but Rev was the on Real choice;-) If you have persevered with HC this long, then I imagine you'll have what it takes to make the transition to Rev. If you are anything like me, then depending on the size of your stack you'll have a couple of weeks of frustration/head scratching. Then when your head (not stack) is finally converted to the Rev way, things will really start falling into place and progress will be much quicker. Also you'll come to appreciation of all the extra potential that Rev offers over HC. And then will come the desire to completely rewrite your stack - cleaner, faster, and with more features. One warning though, Rev is NOT as stable as HC, and understandably so. Rev has so many more features and has to cope with cross platform compatibility. Even so, its frequent crashes (2.6 is so much better than 2.2) can become annoying unless you are prepared. I do two things: 1) Each new day I start working on a stack, I open it, ie MyStack v87, and immediately Save As... with a new sequential number, ie MyStack v88. If I completely stuff up the stack with my 'new feature' I can always go back to yesterdays working copy. 2) EVERY time I change a script I use the Apply and Save menu. This adds a little time to the process, but you'll eventually be VERY glad you did. Good luck ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revDocWiki
Yeah, I have to say, once you start using this you're forever hooked. I find it especially great for those really long library scripts, which I call from a card script. So, I'm editting the card script and I see this 'altSomethingOrOther' function I wrote eons ago and I'm wondering what does THAT do?, so I right-click and immediately my library script is opened in a new window (or a new tab if I'm using Jerry's tab-based Constellation script editor), and instantly the script text is scrolled to the function. Sweet. -Chipp Alex Tweedly wrote: Jerry Daniels wrote: RIght click (control-click) on a xscript word in a scrpt and Transcript Gadget looks it up - OR - right click (control click) on a call to one of your handlers and Transcript Gadget finds the handler WHEREVER it might dwell and open it up in a script editor. Well, why didn't you *say* so. Finds your own handlers when you can't remember where you put them This is the one of the features of other IDEs that I've missed most in Rev (kind of indirectly - other IDEs may not exactly have this, but they have the approx equivalent). As far as I can tell, nothing on your web site actually mentions this important (to me) feature. Knowing this is included, I didn't even need to think about whether this fits in my recreational software budget for this year (it doesn't), I knew I wanted it anyway. I've just been and bought a copy - thank you for mentioning this feature on here ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Dumb question time
On 7/27/05, jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it has to do with the structure of the data to be sorted... it can be 10 to 500 lines with 40 items in each line, and each item can be the sorting key, but for certain lines, the item can be empty and I have the feeling that it's the cause of the inconstency in the sort result... I'll check that... Yes, your on the right path. When ever I have had problems with sorts it has usually come down to 'return' , 'comma', 'tab' and 'quote'. The problem is usually you think you put in 200 lines of text, but some of that text contains a return character so you end up with 200+ lines of text. Similarly you think there are 40 items in each line, but some of those items include a comma so you end up with 40+ items in some lines. My solution is to use one or more of these as appropriate: replace return with in myStore replace comma with in myStore --setting the itemDelimiter to tab is an option replace tab with in myStore replace quote with in myStore Then when you have done your sort, correct the format back with the reverse: replace with return in myStore replace with comma in myStore replace with tab in myStore replace with quote in myStore Obviously timing is everything. Assuming you have a 40 cell wide, 200 row deep table/spreadsheet and some of those cells contain a comma and/or a return character you'll need to access each cell FIRST to ensure no offending characters exist. Setting the itemDelimiter to tab can be a quick way around this if there are commas in fields. With returns you need some sort of 'counter' so you can be sure that the return you are replaceing is in a cell not the end of a row. It can be very hard to determine the existence of a return in the last cell of a row so it is better to set your data up so that will NEVER be the case. Once each cell has been checked, then you can do your sort. Cheers ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OS9 engine or player?
I have a problem dowloading the Mac OS9 engine... Can anyone supply me this (as soon as possible, I have an installation within 5 hours...) or tell me where to download the OS9 player... Also, where do I put the engine... I've found one (MacOSfat.dir) and put it into the components/engines folder, but no luck... Many, many thanks in advance!!! Ton Kuypers ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: request for script or stack
Hi Tim, I'm sorry to whine, but I really miss my hyperCard command-F. The cursor was positioned in the message box to type my search term, between quotation marks, and away I went. Hit the return key for the next hit if I don't like the item I just found. Hit the return key as many times as I want. It worked about the same as typing find confabulation in Rev's message box. I think Rev is somewhat slower, but I can live with that. What I don't like is having to type the whole darned find command, including the quotation marks. Here is a script to do it: go to cd Single Line of stack Message Box put find quote quote into fld Message Field \ of cd Single Line of stack Message Box put select char 7 to 6 of fld quote Message Field \ quote of cd quote Single Line quote of stack \ quote Message Box quote into tCmd send tCmd to me in 2 ticks It doesn't set the hilite in the correct button at the top of the message box it doesn't set the title, but it gets you to the single line entry, puts in the find and selects between the quotes. The delay in selecting is required because the message box remembers your last selectedChunk and puts that back, so I have to wait until that has happened before over-riding it. On my web page http://www.troz.net/Rev/, you will find a plugin called FunKey that allows you to allocate script snippets to certain function keys. You may find that if you attach this script to a function key, you have exactly what you want :-) Rev's command-F find window remains much slower than the Find command in the message box, even if both searches are restricted to the same stack and to field text only. I can't imagine why. I just tested it. I searched for Gloria in a fairly bulky stack that contains a lot of names. Typing find gloria in the message box found four instances almost instantly. Then I tried find gloria with Rev's command-F Find and Replace window. I clicked field text only, I chose this stack only, and I checked obey dontsearch properties. It was at least 1000 times slower, maybe 5000 times slower, or more. And, in 2.6.1, it's still not possible to abort a search in this window once you start one. If you accidentally start the wrong search, you could grow a beard before it was done searching. It is just a script, so it can be stopped by Command-period, or whatever you usually use to stop a script. Cheers, Sarah *** Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.troz.net/Rev/ *** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Crossword Generator
Mark, I made an iconic crossword generator that uses icons in sequences instead letters in sequences (as words). The icon sequences 'represent' words and phrases. Is that close enough??? I did a few error checking things to see if the last icon of line 1 is the first icon of line 2 or if the second icon of down 5 is the last icon in 6 across etc. I did cheat though because if there were not enough words to create it then I just had the thing try a whole new generation instead of rearranging the ones I had. Also, I then had to error check to make sure the same sequence was not used twice etc. HTH Tom McGrath On Jul 27, 2005, at 6:01 PM, Mark Swindell wrote: Has anyone made a crossword generator in Rev? URL? Thanks Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.9, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.6 Advanced Media Group Eagle Works Art Sculpture Semantic Compaction Systems Prentke Romich Company Prentke Romich International SCIconics, LLC Artist Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac-Win revisited
Pardon me chiming in here. When using things like players and speech etc. it is our responsibility to close them ourselves in our code when and if for any reason our program is to quit. So I would put a piece of script in a on closeStack that takes care of the player when closing. This is because players and speech use libraries and/or QT etc. to work and like a serial port that is opened it must be closed or problems may occur. This is good coding practice. Maybe you can have in each stack an on closeStack that checks if all three (+-) stacks are closed and 'then' closes the player only if all are closed. HTH Thanks Tom On Jul 27, 2005, at 6:23 PM, Charles Hartman wrote: On Jul 27, 2005, at 4:50 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: Yes it does work, exactly as I and other Windows users would expect it to work. It closes the app (or window) in whose title bar you are at the time (or which has focus when you do Alt-F4). That's what Windows *always* does. Yes, I understand that. The problem is that after you close all (up to) three stacks in my app, you think you've quit the Player; but you haven't. I've tried out the Quit (with just an OK or Cancel), and it seems to work. If this thing gets more elaborate, and there's data to save, I'll move carefully. Thanks again. Charles ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Macintosh PowerBook G-4 OSX 10.3.9, OS 9.2.2, 1.25 GHz, 512MB RAM, Rev 2.6 Advanced Media Group Eagle Works Art Sculpture Semantic Compaction Systems Prentke Romich Company Prentke Romich International SCIconics, LLC Artist Thomas J McGrath III [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Beta Release for penToolv032d
Hi Developers, Thanks a lot for sending your comments about this beta version of penToolv32d! When you change from a tool (like the Edit Selection tool, the Add-point tool, the Delete-point tool and the Convert-point tool) to any other tool, this selected state do not change. The graphic still shows all the vertex, control points and handles. These points should dissapear. You are right, these vertex, control points and handles should disappear or retract. i'm going to use a custom property in the palette or the graphic to recognize and change his state when the user change tools. How did i change the shape of a graphic? 1- Choose the Edit Selection tool in the palette penTool and click on the graphic. A blue line with vertex, control points and handles appears around the graphic. 2- Move the vertex and control points to reshape the graphic. 3- When you finish editing the graphic, double click on the border of the blue graphic, and the graphic redraws itself with the new shape that you had edited. In other tools, the graphics redraws itself as soon as the user left the mouse button. They are triggering the redraw action using a mouseup message. i choose to use a mousedoubleup message to add some fancy options like create a duplicate of the object. At last moment, this option produced some problems, but later i'll add this functionality. When you use the Edit Selection tool, a blue graphic appears in the border of selected graphic. How could i change this colour to another? To change this color, you had to edit the script of the Edit Selection tool. It's hardwired there, but there are plans to add a preference to change this color at will or the script choose a color with contrast to the border color. Wait for this in a next release You are using two different ways to show the vertex, controls and handlers in the graphic. Could you settle for one of them? Yes, eventually, i will use only one method to show and manipulate the vertex, control points and handles. When testing for the tools: add-point, delete-point and convert-point is finished then i'll select the method of the Edit selection tool. Could you add textures to the color palette? Eventually, yes. ;-) What are your plans for this tool? After finished this beta, i'll add text and image support for the export and import stack. Did you accept colaborations to finish this stack? Sure! Malte Brill offered help and i told him to check the code for importing Adobe ilustrator files. After checking his work with the arcade engine, i think that he could help with the Star tool, adding a lot of different shapes. i hope to convert this PenTool project in a collaborative effort. We just have to wait until experienced developers find the time to help. i really want to see that this collaboration happen anytime. It's an invaluable opportunity to learn from my mistakes and from their wise code. :-) Thanks a lot for your time to test this tool! Keep sending your comments to my e-mail, Have a nice day! al Visit my site: http://www.geocities.com/capellan2000/ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 22, Issue 125
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 15:01:03 -0700 From: Mark Swindell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Crossword Generator To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Has anyone made a crossword generator in Rev? URL? Thanks Mark Mark, I believe Mark Wieder is working on one. I would love to see this. Sounds difficult--and possibly fun. Not only do you need a big dictionary, but a clue to go with each word. Or, I guess the clues could be constructed ex post facto. Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
*ping* Jim Hurley
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 00:48:20 +0200 From: Malte Brill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: *ping* Jim Hurley To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sorry to bring this on list... Jim, did you receive my last 2 off-list mails? I fear spam filtering again. Cheers, Malte Malte, Tough question to answer; what were the last two messages? I also have trouble responding to the speaker when he begins his speech by asking if *everyone* can hear him. Some egotist always responds: Yes. Seriously, I did get a message a while back--7/21/05. It had a script which contained a setProp handler. I was too embarrassed to reply that I had no idea how to handle a setProp handler. And here I am confessing to the list. Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: request for script or stack
Thanks a bunch, Sarah, I haven't had time to study your script yet. I'm just leaving the office, I'll look more carefully tomorrow. But it looks like a big improvement on what I've been doing. At first glance, it looks like it won't recognize when it's repeatedly cycling through the same page if there are multiple hits on the same page. If it doesn't, I'd like to add that feature, but it's a pain in the neck for me to script it. It might be a piece of cake for someone else. If I put find whole in the message box, as in find whole Bush, Laura I wonder if Rev will consistently search whole as long as I keep hitting the return key. HyperCard wouldn't. Okay, it's a stupid question, I can find out by trial and error. I hope it does. I'll try it tomorrow. Regarding the find and replace window, I have tried several times to stop a search with a command-period. It just plain won't stop. (Clicking on the glowing red close button at the upper left won't stop it either, even though the little X appears when the mouse is over it.) I've noticed other situations in other stacks where command-period should stop a script, but it doesn't. For instance, a command-period won't interrupt a script if an answer dialog box is on the screen. It seems like it should. I was getting ready to report this to Rev as a bug or an enhancement request. Maybe it normally does work that way. I thought it was a Rev feature, or maybe a Rev deficiency. Maybe it's another anomaly. I don't think there's anything in my stacks that would intercept a command-period. I'll check again, but I haven't set the cantabort property to true in any of my stacks, or the allowInterrupts property to false. I just checked several of my stacks and Rev's find and replace window. (Is it a stack? Is that why it's so slow?) allowinterrupts is true. It's true in all my other stacks, also. Most or all of my stacks act as if it is set to false. Meanwhile Rev won't recognize the cantAbort property if I try to get it in the msg box. Not sure why. Life just seems to get complicateder and complicateder. All part of the fun, I guess. Thanks again. I'll be interested to read any comments you might have. Other script ideas for easier finding are welcome, also. Cheers, Tim Hi Tim, I'm sorry to whine, but I really miss my hyperCard command-F. The cursor was positioned in the message box to type my search term, between quotation marks, and away I went. Hit the return key for the next hit if I don't like the item I just found. Hit the return key as many times as I want. It worked about the same as typing find confabulation in Rev's message box. I think Rev is somewhat slower, but I can live with that. What I don't like is having to type the whole darned find command, including the quotation marks. Here is a script to do it: go to cd Single Line of stack Message Box put find quote quote into fld Message Field \ of cd Single Line of stack Message Box put select char 7 to 6 of fld quote Message Field \ quote of cd quote Single Line quote of stack \ quote Message Box quote into tCmd send tCmd to me in 2 ticks It doesn't set the hilite in the correct button at the top of the message box it doesn't set the title, but it gets you to the single line entry, puts in the find and selects between the quotes. The delay in selecting is required because the message box remembers your last selectedChunk and puts that back, so I have to wait until that has happened before over-riding it. On my web page http://www.troz.net/Rev/, you will find a plugin called FunKey that allows you to allocate script snippets to certain function keys. You may find that if you attach this script to a function key, you have exactly what you want :-) Rev's command-F find window remains much slower than the Find command in the message box, even if both searches are restricted to the same stack and to field text only. I can't imagine why. I just tested it. I searched for Gloria in a fairly bulky stack that contains a lot of names. Typing find gloria in the message box found four instances almost instantly. Then I tried find gloria with Rev's command-F Find and Replace window. I clicked field text only, I chose this stack only, and I checked obey dontsearch properties. It was at least 1000 times slower, maybe 5000 times slower, or more. And, in 2.6.1, it's still not possible to abort a search in this window once you start one. If you accidentally start the wrong search, you could grow a beard before it was done searching. It is just a script, so it can be stopped by Command-period, or whatever you usually use to stop a script. Cheers, Sarah *** Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.troz.net/Rev/ *** ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to
RE: ANN: Updates on MonsieurX
Hello, MisterX, Here we go again. NO2 is Nitrogen Dioxide, a major contributor to photochemical smog (like in LA). See: http://www.temis.nl/products/no2.html for example. Nitromethane, as in dragster fuel, is CH3NO2, all one molecule. NO2 as a molecule, without the methane radical, is just smog food. How did I get to be the local chemist? Maybe I lived in LA too long. Cheer to all, Jerry Jensen From: MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ANN: Updates on MonsieurX i know! ;) Everyone tought i had dentist anesthaetic laughin gas when i really had an explosive mix of productivity boosting tools ;) cheeriup! Xav -Original Message- Mark Wieder Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 19:32 MisterX- Tuesday, July 26, 2005, 10:05:23 PM, you wrote: M Note: Most of the plugins were renamed from N2O to NO2 The proper M molecule in nitro-methane... not nitrous oxide... ROTFL. That *does* put things in a whole different light... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OS9 engine or player?
Ton Kuypers wrote: I have a problem dowloading the Mac OS9 engine... Can anyone supply me this (as soon as possible, I have an installation within 5 hours...) or tell me where to download the OS9 player... Also, where do I put the engine... I've found one (MacOSfat.dir) and put it into the components/engines folder, but no luck... My boilerplate reply (this comes up a lot): If necessary, you can manually download the various engine files from the Runtime site. The standalone builder cannot use the Mac OS engines without some additional decompression first. The Mac FAT engine is called MacOSfat.dir.gz. The OS X engine is called Revolution.app.dir.gz The engines can be downloaded from: ftp://ftp.runrev.com/pub/revolution/downloads/engines/ As of this writing, the last available OS 9 engine is version 2.5. The .dir.gz extension is a special compression technique used to preserve the resource fork. Place the downloaded file on your computer in the same folder as the Revolution application. Then launch Revolution and type into the message box: revDecompress Revolution.app.dir.gz,defaultfolder This will decompress the Mac OS engine into the default folder and give you a useable engine file. You can then move this file to the components/engines directory where you should be able to build the standalone. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: request for script or stack
Regarding the find and replace window, I have tried several times to stop a search with a command-period. It just plain won't stop. (Clicking on the glowing red close button at the upper left won't stop it either, even though the little X appears when the mouse is over it.) I tested it here (Mac OS X 10.4.2 if that matters) with Rev 2.6 and it worked fine. I had to set it searching a vast number of stacks before I could get to the keys fast enough, but I made it in the end and was able to interrupt it. It then gave me the list of items it had found so far. The Find button in the Find replace window specifically sets the allowInterrupts to false which is weird, especially as the comment above one of the lines setting it to false says --allow user interruption. You may like to edit this so that you can interrupt it, although as I said, it works for me. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: ANN: Updates on MonsieurX
Jerry well, N2O was not right and CH3NO2 is too long so im doing it like the NOs bottles... But i had to correct it... N2O was just to hard to type each time ;) The goal is to go nitrous, hence faster, not higher or smoggier! ;) cheers Xavier -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry J Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 05:16 To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: RE: ANN: Updates on MonsieurX Hello, MisterX, Here we go again. NO2 is Nitrogen Dioxide, a major contributor to photochemical smog (like in LA). See: http://www.temis.nl/products/no2.html for example. Nitromethane, as in dragster fuel, is CH3NO2, all one molecule. NO2 as a molecule, without the methane radical, is just smog food. How did I get to be the local chemist? Maybe I lived in LA too long. Cheer to all, Jerry Jensen From: MisterX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ANN: Updates on MonsieurX i know! ;) Everyone tought i had dentist anesthaetic laughin gas when i really had an explosive mix of productivity boosting tools ;) cheeriup! Xav -Original Message- Mark Wieder Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 19:32 MisterX- Tuesday, July 26, 2005, 10:05:23 PM, you wrote: M Note: Most of the plugins were renamed from N2O to NO2 The proper M molecule in nitro-methane... not nitrous oxide... ROTFL. That *does* put things in a whole different light... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: request for script or stack
Timothy Miller wrote: So... I'd like to have a script that would start with maybe just a click on a button or a keystroke. It might give me my choice of find whole, find word, find string, or something like that. It would position the cursor in the suitable field, I wouldn't have to type quotation marks. It would search as fast as the find command typed into Rev's message box, or in a script. I could hit the return key (or maybe a button) repeatedly until I found the item I was looking for. AND, the find function wouldn't get stuck on one page if there were multiple hits on the same page. Not a script, and not exactly what you are looking for, but there's a semi-built-in way to most of it. Type the find expression once into the message box. You can use find whole or plain find or whatever. Then just keep hitting the return key. This won't restrict the find to one per card, but then neither did HyperCard's. This works until a find changes cards. When that happens the focus will change to the stack. You'll have to click in the message box again or type Cmd-M to regain focus so you can trigger the next instance. I usually keep my left hand on the Cmd-M keys and hit return with my right. It isn't as handy as HyperCard's, but you don't have to do all that repeat typing. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Workaround request - textcolor property in a field in a group
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Grasping at straws here, but maybe it'll awaken something in your brain: Does the text of field AA contain CRs (which define lines), or does it just look like multiple lines, 'soft' wrapping and and flowing without having any CRs in it? If the latter, that would explain why you can't select a chunk in line 2. A possibly useful hint: Try setting the firstIndent of the field to 75. However-many *real* lines of text you have in the field, each of those lines will magically acquire an inch-or-so of whitespace at its beginning. This is one of those things I wish I'd thought of. Very nice. It never occured to me. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OS9 engine or player?
If this is common enough to warrant a boilerplate could it be added to the FAQ on RunRev's Support page? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com J. Landman Gay wrote: My boilerplate reply (this comes up a lot): If necessary, you can manually download the various engine files from the Runtime site. The standalone builder cannot use the Mac OS engines without some additional decompression first. The Mac FAT engine is called MacOSfat.dir.gz. The OS X engine is called Revolution.app.dir.gz The engines can be downloaded from: ftp://ftp.runrev.com/pub/revolution/downloads/engines/ As of this writing, the last available OS 9 engine is version 2.5. The .dir.gz extension is a special compression technique used to preserve the resource fork. Place the downloaded file on your computer in the same folder as the Revolution application. Then launch Revolution and type into the message box: revDecompress Revolution.app.dir.gz,defaultfolder This will decompress the Mac OS engine into the default folder and give you a useable engine file. You can then move this file to the components/engines directory where you should be able to build the standalone. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Workaround request - textcolor property in a field in a group
You could just set the dontWrap of field AA to trueorselect field AA and highlight dontWrap in the property inspector. That will show you how many 'real' lines you have. Tom McGrath On Jul 27, 2005, at 11:59 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sez [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Grasping at straws here, but maybe it'll awaken something in your brain: Does the text of field AA contain CRs (which define lines), or does it just look like multiple lines, 'soft' wrapping and and flowing without having any CRs in it? If the latter, that would explain why you can't select a chunk in line 2. A possibly useful hint: Try setting the firstIndent of the field to 75. However-many *real* lines of text you have in the field, each of those lines will magically acquire an inch-or-so of whitespace at its beginning. This is one of those things I wish I'd thought of. Very nice. It never occured to me. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OS9 engine or player?
Richard Gaskin wrote: If this is common enough to warrant a boilerplate could it be added to the FAQ on RunRev's Support page? Probably not. It has only started coming up in the support queue since the OS 9 engine became unavailable as of Rev 2.6. As soon as that gets built, I suspect the question will go away again. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Crossword Generator
Mark- Wednesday, July 27, 2005, 3:01:03 PM, you wrote: MS Has anyone made a crossword generator in Rev? URL? What have you got in mind? My work in progress is up in revonline now in games, but it's most definitely not ready for release (no printing, no docs, etc). It does allow you to generate crosswords, though. If you're looking to something more automatic in the way of look-ahead word generation, I haven't thought out the logic involved, so if anyone wants to fiddle with it, do feel free and let me know what you come up with. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
