Re: ISAM

[Jesse Sng]

Unfortunately I don't know where to find such things.  I spend a 
fair part of my life sucessfully avoiding database work, and would 
hate to break that record now. :)


Hopefully someone here who's worked with ODBC will be able to help out


Man after my own heart


Jesse
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Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 23, Issue 74

[Joel Guillod]

Mark,

I have no idea if you are hired by Runrev to write the API and  
documentation for the external. So the following should possibly be  
applied to Runrev. But before filling a blocking bug, let me kindly  
go on your reply.
We stayed tuned since a long while but now I actually need a proper  
documentation for the SDK and probably that RunRev published all the  
API.
I have hired an engineer for writing specific C externals we use in  
medical image processing (malignant melanoma screening). Can we make  
professionnal business with Revolution or should we consider it not  
for serious? Can you tell us how long we have to wait for clean API  
externals and documentation? Of course you understand that I  cannot  
pay workers to wait. Because I have been a first days Hypercard/ 
Supercard/CompileIt! user, I was confident that our development could  
succeed on Revolution. Now in our development stage we urgently need  
to integrate our C code in the externals for MacOSX/Windows and Linux  
in a second step. This month not in October! You could reply that I  
had to test the external SDK before but this is a marketing issue  
from Runrev that I have trusted based on their annonced features of  
Revolution. Also it would be completely unfair (possibly a legal  
offence) that only restricted or selected developers can make  
professional business by coding externals properly. The very  
experienced engineer I hired has just droped me this note about the  
external SDK: «Considering what they give, it is clear that they do  
not want that people make externs...». Yes we have been able to build  
something but we want to do it professionally and safely. I dont want  
to have my application regularly crashed the way I experiment it with  
externals I have paid for recently (this is another debate, ok)...


Well, I am still entrusting that a robust and documented solution  
will be published soon. All the Revolution community will benefit  
from that and this will enable Runrev to grow in consideration of  
professional developers, simply considering the many external plugins  
available for other competitors IDE and their success. Today let us  
know the delay, please!


Sincerely,

Joel Guillod


Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 09:27:31 -0700
From: Mark Wieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Joel-

Sunday, August 21, 2005, 12:19:31 AM, you wrote:



feedback, did I miss something? Is there an other complete
documentation for externals?



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Re: [ANN] Animated gif for OSX progress

[Joel Guillod]

You are most welcome, Joel.

And Howard, you are not actually stopping the  animation which  
continues in
the background. As in the original posting and  repeated when  
uploaded to ssBk
Online, set the repeatCount of the image ID to -1  to start the  
animation and

0 to stop it.



On what platform do you run? I still dont see the animation during  
script execution. Try this on MacOSX 10.4.2:


1.- Put this handler in the script of a card displaying your  
animation image:


on doTheLongProcess pCount
  repeat with i=1 to pCount
put i
  end repeat
end doTheLongProcess

2.- Ensure that the image is animated, i.e. type in the msg box: "set  
the repeatCount of the image X to -1"


3.- Type the following in the msg box "doTheLongProcess 4000"

4.- Here you notice that the msg box displays an increasing value but  
the image is not animated.


Now, do you catch my former question? Or does your own computer  
display the animation, mine does not...



So to allow for the animation to be displayed during the execution of  
script, I do the following:


1.- Change the above script to:
on doTheLongProcess pCount
  repeat with i=1 to pCount
put i
animateImg -- this is the fix to allow for the animation to  
display.

  end repeat
end doTheLongProcess

local llast_animate = 0

on animateImg i
  -- dont do the wait for each iteration of the calling handler  
since this will slow down the execution:

  if millisecs()-llast_animate>100 then
wait 0 millisecs
put millisecs() into llast_animate
  end if
end animateImg

2.- Note that calling "wait" allows for the screen to display.
3.- Dont use a "lockscreen" or "set lockscreen to true" in your  
script because this will prevent the redisplay, of course.


That's my proposal. I build a test stack named "Display animation  
process" which you find under username "imed". It will show you time  
wasting depending of the settings (animate or not, screen locked or  
not).


JG


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Re: General Intersect

[Malte Brill]

Hi Roger,

as saied before you would do this with a repeat structure.

eg:

repeat with i=1 to the number of buttons
  if the short name of btn i="targetButton" then next repeat
  if intersect(btn "targetButton", btn i) then
--do stuff
  end if
end repeat

However, if it is a time critical script and you have many buttons to 
check, I suggest that you store the ID of all buttons you need to check 
in a custom property and use repeat for each from there:


Assuming you have stored the IDs in a customProperty called 
allButtonsToCheck, each ID on a seperate line:


repeat for each line theButtonToCheck in the allButtonsToCheck of this 
card

  if theButtonToCheck=the ID of button "targetButton" then next repeat
  if intersect(button "targetButton", button ID theButtonToCheck) then
--do stuff
  end if
end repeat

All the best,

Malte


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Program bar at bottom of Windows screen is blank

[Stgoldberg]

Hopefully someone can help with the following question.   A created a Rev 
program using Mac and built a standalone for Windows.   The program resides in 
a 
folder.   On Windows, the name of the folder shows up in the program bar at 
the bottom of the screen, as it should.  However, on opening the (.exe) program 
the name of the the .exe program is blank in the program bar.   One user has 
mentioned that this could confuse people into thinking spyware or a virus is 
operating.   The name of the program did not display in the Task Manager 
either. 
  
If anyone is interested in seeing the program it is available as a free 
download from www.medmaster.net.   The program name is "MedSearcher."   It is 
the 
first Revolution program that I have published.   It's designed to allow users 
to quickly search any of the major medical search engines.
Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to enable the name of the .exe file 
to show up in the program bar?   Thanks.
Steve Goldberg
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Re: Program bar at bottom of Windows screen is blank

[Pat Trendler]

Possibly, you didn't give the stack a title in  Basic Properties of the 
Stack Property Inspector.


Pat
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- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 9:44 PM
Subject: Program bar at bottom of Windows screen is blank



Hopefully someone can help with the following question.   A created a Rev
program using Mac and built a standalone for Windows.   The program 
resides in a
folder.   On Windows, the name of the folder shows up in the program bar 
at
the bottom of the screen, as it should.  However, on opening the (.exe) 
program
the name of the the .exe program is blank in the program bar.   One user 
has
mentioned that this could confuse people into thinking spyware or a virus 
is
operating.   The name of the program did not display in the Task Manager 
either.


If anyone is interested in seeing the program it is available as a free
download from www.medmaster.net.   The program name is "MedSearcher."   It 
is the
first Revolution program that I have published.   It's designed to allow 
users

to quickly search any of the major medical search engines.
Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to enable the name of the .exe 
file

to show up in the program bar?   Thanks.
Steve Goldberg
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Re: Uncomplete Externals SDK Documentation

[Joel Guillod]

(Sorry I repost it with the correct subject title!)

Mark,

I have no idea if you are hired by Runrev to write the API and
documentation for the external. So the following should possibly be
applied to Runrev. But before filling a blocking bug, let me kindly
go on your reply.
We stayed tuned since a long while but now I actually need a proper
documentation for the SDK and probably that RunRev published all the
API.
I have hired an engineer for writing specific C externals we use in
medical image processing (malignant melanoma screening). Can we make
professionnal business with Revolution or should we consider it not
for serious? Can you tell us how long we have to wait for clean API
externals and documentation? Of course you understand that I  cannot
pay workers to wait. Because I have been a first days Hypercard/
Supercard/CompileIt! user, I was confident that our development could
succeed on Revolution. Now in our development stage we urgently need
to integrate our C code in the externals for MacOSX/Windows and Linux
in a second step. This month not in October! You could reply that I
had to test the external SDK before but this is a marketing issue
from Runrev that I have trusted based on their annonced features of
Revolution. Also it would be completely unfair (possibly a legal
offence) that only restricted or selected developers can make
professional business by coding externals properly. The very
experienced engineer I hired has just droped me this note about the
external SDK: «Considering what they give, it is clear that they do
not want that people make externs...». Yes we have been able to build
something but we want to do it professionally and safely. I dont want
to have my application regularly crashed the way I experiment it with
externals I have paid for recently (this is another debate, ok)...

Well, I am still entrusting that a robust and documented solution
will be published soon. All the Revolution community will benefit
from that and this will enable Runrev to grow in consideration of
professional developers, simply considering the many external plugins
available for other competitors IDE and their success. Today let us
know the delay, please!

Sincerely,

Joel Guillod



Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 09:27:31 -0700
From: Mark Wieder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Joel-

Sunday, August 21, 2005, 12:19:31 AM, you wrote:




feedback, did I miss something? Is there an other complete
documentation for externals?




Stay tuned.

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Re: General Intersect

[TJ Frame]

Aso, If you might end up intersecting more than one button, you could create 
a subset list of all buttons that match with something like the following:
 put 1 into counter
 repeat for the number of btns
 if the number of btn "targetButton" = counter then next repeat
 if intersect(button "targetButton", btn counter) then put the short id of 
btn counter & cr after hitList
 add 1 to counter
end repeat
 --- each line of hitList will contain the id of a btn that intersects with 
your target button
  this runs pretty fast. On my system, searching through 850 buttons took 18 
milliseconds on average

 On 8/22/05, Malte Brill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> Hi Roger,
> 
> as saied before you would do this with a repeat structure.
> 
> eg:
> 
> repeat with i=1 to the number of buttons
> if the short name of btn i="targetButton" then next repeat
> if intersect(btn "targetButton", btn i) then
> --do stuff
> end if
> end repeat
> 
> However, if it is a time critical script and you have many buttons to
> check, I suggest that you store the ID of all buttons you need to check
> in a custom property and use repeat for each from there:
> 
> Assuming you have stored the IDs in a customProperty called
> allButtonsToCheck, each ID on a seperate line:
> 
> repeat for each line theButtonToCheck in the allButtonsToCheck of this
> card
> if theButtonToCheck=the ID of button "targetButton" then next repeat
> if intersect(button "targetButton", button ID theButtonToCheck) then
> --do stuff
> end if
> end repeat
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Malte
> 
> 
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Re: Program bar at bottom of Windows screen is blank

[xbury . cs]

Hi Steve,

The only thing i can think of that causes this is 
- no decorations or palette mode window (but then it wouldn't be visible 
in the task bar - only in task manager)
- you set the title of the window to a space or something like that...
- any MacOS-only characters in the title?

cheers
Xavier

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 22/08/2005 13:44:59:

> Hopefully someone can help with the following question.   A created a 
Rev 
> program using Mac and built a standalone for Windows.   The program 
> resides in a 
> folder.   On Windows, the name of the folder shows up in the program bar 
at 
> the bottom of the screen, as it should.  However, on opening the (.
> exe) program 
> the name of the the .exe program is blank in the program bar.   One user 
has 
> mentioned that this could confuse people into thinking spyware or a 
virus is 
> operating.   The name of the program did not display in the Task 
> Manager either. 
> 
> If anyone is interested in seeing the program it is available as a free 
> download from www.medmaster.net.   The program name is 
> "MedSearcher."   It is the 
> first Revolution program that I have published.   It's designed to 
> allow users 
> to quickly search any of the major medical search engines.
> Does anyone have a suggestion as to how to enable the name of the .exe 
file 
> to show up in the program bar?   Thanks.
> Steve Goldberg
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RE: Spell Checker

[Lynch, Jonathan]

Hi Derek, 

Just a suggestion for your spellchecker - because I have one I created
for work and I made this change and now it moves much much faster.

In one of the recent informal coding challenges, one of the rev users
(I'm sorry, I cannot remember who it was) came up with a cool way of
doing mass comparisons.

Basically, you can load the entire word list into an array, in which
each element of the array is named for the word, and the content of each
element is the word "true"

Something like this:

Repeat for each word tWord in tWordList
  Put true into tWordArray[tWord]
End repeat

Then when you go to do the comparison for a given word, you do this

If not tWordArray[tWordToCheck] then
  -- hilite the word, or whatever
End if


This was much faster than checking to see if the word was contained in a
list, and is nice because it is not particularly slowed down by having a
very large word list. You might already be using this method, so my
apologies if I am pointing out the obvious to you.

Cheers,

J


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derek Bump
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:46 PM
To: Sivakatirswami; How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Spell Checker

Sivakatirswami wrote:
> Derek... Please ignore my post to the list... I just now see you
bailed 
> on that project (or were forced to...)
> 
> But I never did get from you what you had done so far, per your memo:
> 
> Sivakatirswami

Sivaktirswami,

Let me first apologize for the time it has taken me to get back to you. 
  My main computer's hard drive is corrupted and I spend the better part

of 2 days attempting to get as many files off of it as possible (Mostly 
my iTunes Library).

I do have a back up that is recent enough to include the Spell Checker, 
but I cannot give it out at this point.  I have not forgotten about you,

as well as the other Revolution Developers, and I am working to get the 
Spell Checker finished.  It would be a valuable tool for Revolution that

really should have been included a long time ago in the development
package.


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developing win32 externals...

[Andre Garzia]

Hi Folks,

I am now trying to build some externals for both mac and win32  
machines. I plan to use XCode on the mac side but on the win32 side I  
have no clue. I'd like not to use Visual Studio, it's too bloated for  
my modest machine. I'd settle for DJGPP or Cygwin or whatever... If I  
could cross compile in XCode or GCC then it would be marvelous. Can  
someone shed a light here?


Cheers
andre
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Re: [ANN] Animated gif for OSX progress

[FlexibleLearning]

 
I suspect the repeat loop is so tight that it leaves no cycles left for the  
engine to activate the animation frames. For most purposes, an animated gif 
will  happily run in it's own 'memory area', or at least that is my experiance 
and  impression over the years. 
 
/H

>on doTheLongProcess  pCount
>   repeat with i=1 to pCount
>  put i
>   end repeat
>end  doTheLongProcess



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Re: developing win32 externals...

[Mark Waddingham]

Hi Andre,

I'd recommend taking a look at this:
  http://msdn.microsoft.com/visualc/vctoolkit2003/

Although you should be able to build externals for Win32 using mingw32:
  http://www.mingw.org/

Warmest Regards,

Mark.

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rev opens and then disappears spontaneously

[Jon]

All of a sudden, Rev no longer works.  I try to start it, it pops up, 
all of the windows appear, and then it spontaneously disappears.


There are no hidden Rev processes running.

I had been using Constellation, but turned it off (or tried to?)

I have not yet re-booted (too much else going on right now).

Anyone seen this before?  Is there some file I can clear or something?

:)

Jon
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difficulties with StandAlone

[Jon]

Every time I try to create a StandAlone (SA), I have to select a 
directory into which the SA will be created, starting at My Computer.  I 
don't mind selecting the directory the first time I do this for an 
application, but is it necessary that I do this every time?  And if I 
have to do it every time, could it start from the most recently selected 
location, rather than from My Computer?  Drilling down into the 
directory structure over and over again seems needlessly tedious to me. 


Am I missing something here?  Does it work this way for everyone?

:)

Jon
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Re: rev opens and then disappears spontaneously

[Andre Garzia]

On Aug 22, 2005, at 11:02 AM, Jon wrote:

All of a sudden, Rev no longer works.  I try to start it, it pops  
up, all of the windows appear, and then it spontaneously disappears.


There are no hidden Rev processes running.

I had been using Constellation, but turned it off (or tried to?)

I have not yet re-booted (too much else going on right now).

Anyone seen this before?  Is there some file I can clear or something?

:)


Jon,

can it be that a plugin or stack is calling "quit"? That happened to  
me once, a plugin I made was closing the IDE...


Andre





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Re: Spell Checker

[jbv]

>
> Just a suggestion for your spellchecker - because I have one I created
> for work and I made this change and now it moves much much faster.
>



BTW, where do you guys get the words list ?



Thanks,
JB

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RE: Spell Checker

[Lynch, Jonathan]

I found one online with 174,000 words - I forget where. I can eMail it
to you as a .txt attachment if you wish.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jbv
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:31 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Spell Checker



>
> Just a suggestion for your spellchecker - because I have one I created
> for work and I made this change and now it moves much much faster.
>



BTW, where do you guys get the words list ?



Thanks,
JB

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Re: Spell Checker

[jbv]

> I found one online with 174,000 words - I forget where. I can eMail it
> to you as a .txt attachment if you wish.
>

well, that's very kind; but I guess it's english words only...
actually I'm looking for the same kind of thing in french...
any clue ?

Best,
JB

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RE: Spell Checker

[Lynch, Jonathan]

I'm sorry, no clue...

But there must be something out there like that, I am sure a bit of
creative online searching will find something.

Good luck :)

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 10:43 AM
To: How to use Revolution
Subject: Re: Spell Checker




> I found one online with 174,000 words - I forget where. I can eMail it
> to you as a .txt attachment if you wish.
>

well, that's very kind; but I guess it's english words only...
actually I'm looking for the same kind of thing in french...
any clue ?

Best,
JB

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Couple CGI questions--timed events

[Thomas McCarthy]

Question 1:
Can my rev cgi engine do things (such as send out emails) at predetermined 
intervals?

Question 2:
This is related to question 1. If my cgi script starts up the Rev engine. When 
does the rev engine shut down?

thanks
tom

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Re: Couple CGI questions--timed events

[jbv]

Thomas,

> Question 1:
> Can my rev cgi engine do things (such as send out emails) at predetermined 
> intervals?

you'd better use cron jobs on your server for that...

>
>
> Question 2:
> This is related to question 1. If my cgi script starts up the Rev engine. 
> When does the rev engine shut down?
>

Theorically when your script execution is over IMHO.

Best,
JB

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Re: General Intersect

[Roger Guay]

Thanks to all who responded.  I was hoping that I wouldn't have to  
use a repeat loop as I do have a time-critical situation.  However  
your suggestion of storing IDs as custom properties will perhaps save  
the day.


Cheers, Roger


On Aug 22, 2005, at 4:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



as saied before you would do this with a repeat structure.

eg:

repeat with i=1 to the number of buttons
   if the short name of btn i="targetButton" then next repeat
   if intersect(btn "targetButton", btn i) then
 --do stuff
   end if
end repeat

However, if it is a time critical script and you have many buttons to
check, I suggest that you store the ID of all buttons you need to  
check

in a custom property and use repeat for each from there:

Assuming you have stored the IDs in a customProperty called
allButtonsToCheck, each ID on a seperate line:

repeat for each line theButtonToCheck in the allButtonsToCheck of this
card
   if theButtonToCheck=the ID of button "targetButton" then next  
repeat
   if intersect(button "targetButton", button ID theButtonToCheck)  
then

 --do stuff
   end if
end repeat

All the best,

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[ANN] Ignore my last ANN re: ReplaceText

[Ken Ray]

(This will teach me to not send things before their time...)

What I posted as a bug with replaceText in 2.6 is actually a bug in 2.5.1
that I was taking advantage of and thought it was "normal", so when it was
fixed in 2.6 I thought it was a bug.

As many have pointed out to me, the statement:

put replaceText("Thisisatest"," *"," ")

is actually bad regex, as I should have been using a "+" instead of a "*" in
the expression. When I used "+", everything was fine.

So after I wipe the egg off my face, I'll be fixing the XML Library and
reposting for those who wish to download a new version from my site.

Thanks, and sorry for any inconvenience this might have caused anyone.

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RE: developing win32 externals...

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Andre,

One of the things to watch for is whether you're using any binary libraries
(static or dynamic) in your code that were built by someone else.  If the
libraries were built with visual studio and you try to link them with
bloodshed you'll get linker errors. (in particular, I've had this problem
with some mysql and imagemagick libs)

If you're just building code you've compiled I highly recommend the
bloodshed ide for mingw/gcc, its the only environment besides vs where i've
ever been able to get the debugger to work correctly with rev.

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To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com
Subject: developing win32 externals...


Hi Folks,

I am now trying to build some externals for both mac and win32  
machines. I plan to use XCode on the mac side but on the win32 side I  
have no clue. I'd like not to use Visual Studio, it's too bloated for  
my modest machine. I'd settle for DJGPP or Cygwin or whatever... If I  
could cross compile in XCode or GCC then it would be marvelous. Can  
someone shed a light here?

Cheers
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Re: Spell Checker

[Alex Tweedly]

Lynch, Jonathan wrote:


I'm sorry, no clue...

But there must be something out there like that, I am sure a bit of
creative online searching will find something.

Good luck :)

 


http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/dictionaries.html


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Re: Couple CGI questions--timed events

[Dan Shafer]

On Aug 22, 2005, at 7:42 AM, Thomas McCarthy wrote:



Question 1:
Can my rev cgi engine do things (such as send out emails) at  
predetermined intervals?


No. The CGI runs on request from a browser or other client. To do  
this it would have to stay running, which is not how CGIs are  
designed to work.



Question 2:
This is related to question 1. If my cgi script starts up the Rev  
engine. When does the rev engine shut down?


Each time the CGI is called, the engine is invoked, does the CGI  
task, and terminates.



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Re: Spell Checker

[Stephen Barncard]

How would one use this dictionary? I downloaded one of the 
dictionaries and it was not plain text. Looked like binary.



Lynch, Jonathan wrote:


I'm sorry, no clue...

But there must be something out there like that, I am sure a bit of
creative online searching will find something.

Good luck :)



http://www.mozilla.org/products/thunderbird/dictionaries.html


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Unicode

[Mark Schonewille]

Hello,

Using the uniEncode function, I am able to read and display most 
unicode formats in MacOS X. However, there is one format I can't 
get to work. This is a file that is supposed to be UTF-16BE 
(with Thai encoding). If I display this in a field, I get a kind 
of Chinese text. I have other files, which are supposed to have 
a similar encoding, which do work.


The file can be downloaded here:


After reading in the file, setting the unicodeText property of a 
field and setting the textFont to "Lucida Grande,Thai", the text 
still looks like Chinese. Any suggestions as to how to display 
this file correctly?


Thanks,

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RE: Unicode

[MisterX]

have you downloaded the thai fonts which are not the same as chinese?

The OS may be using the most-likely...
 

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> Mark Schonewille
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> To: How to use Revolution
> Subject: Unicode
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Using the uniEncode function, I am able to read and display 
> most unicode formats in MacOS X. However, there is one format 
> I can't get to work. This is a file that is supposed to be 
> UTF-16BE (with Thai encoding). If I display this in a field, 
> I get a kind of Chinese text. I have other files, which are 
> supposed to have a similar encoding, which do work.
> 
> The file can be downloaded here:
> 
> 
> After reading in the file, setting the unicodeText property 
> of a field and setting the textFont to "Lucida Grande,Thai", 
> the text still looks like Chinese. Any suggestions as to how 
> to display this file correctly?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark
> 
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Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[Levi Kendall]

Hi All,

  I was just wondering what everyone out there was using for releasing
commercial demo applications with Revolution.  What I'm thinking in
terms of here is having a limited demo version that will show the user
*some* of the functionality but which is "crippled" in some areas. 
The user will be able to access some kind of registration feature
(this is what I'm looking for) that would then unlock the product.  At
this point I'm looking for any system to do this, perhaps it could be
web integrated or be able to unlock with a serial code while offline,
anything of the sort.

  Has anyone found a ready-made system to distribute like this with
Revolution?  And perhaps one that can be used on the same
cross-platform support which Revolution itself offers.  Any ideas?

-Levi
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Re: Couple CGI questions--timed events

[Andre Garzia]

 
On Monday, August 22, 2005, at 04:07AM, Dan Shafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>On Aug 22, 2005, at 7:42 AM, Thomas McCarthy wrote:
>
>>
>> Question 1:
>> Can my rev cgi engine do things (such as send out emails) at  
>> predetermined intervals?
>>
>No. The CGI runs on request from a browser or other client. To do  
>this it would have to stay running, which is not how CGIs are  
>designed to work.

for that task, cron is your friend! :-)

>
>> Question 2:
>> This is related to question 1. If my cgi script starts up the Rev  
>> engine. When does the rev engine shut down?
>>
>Each time the CGI is called, the engine is invoked, does the CGI  
>task, and terminates.
>

I find that the time after the reply to the browser but before engine shutdown 
is a very nice place to do all kinds of mantainance tasks. The  client is  
happy and I think we can steal some more CPU cycles doing things that will 
speed up our system by leaving it in a nice shape. For example, this is a nice 
time to process text files and generate quick indexes.

cheers
andre


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>> tom
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Re: ISAM

[Mark Wieder]

Scott-

Sunday, August 21, 2005, 5:38:31 PM, you wrote:

> Any idea where I can find them for Windows and Mac?
> I've been looking evrywhere for them  ODBC
> drivers in OSX require a Microsoft product to be
> installed (on Windows they are installed by default).

> Any ideas appreciated

Since you were talking about dBase and Paradox, I assumed you meant
Windoze...

In that case, the dBase file format is *very* well defined and
documented. Why not just treat the dbf files as binary files, read
them into memory, and start stuffing them into arrays and such? Do you
actually need to keep them in dbf format for use by other programs?

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Re: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[Malte Brill]

Hi Levi,

>At this point I'm looking for any system to do this, perhaps it could  
be web integrated


I vaguely recall that there should have been a Kagi Module for  
Revolution. I could also be wrong. :-) Kee might be able to tell you  
more about it. Maybe this thread is interesting:


http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-December/ 
048308.html


>be able to unlock with a serial code while offline,
>anything of the sort.

This could easiely be scripted. I have a demo stack available here.  
Scripts are commented.


http://www.derbrill.de/revstack/passwort.rev.zip

Once the user has unlocked your program you can write it into an  
external file (which your app checks for at startup) If the file is  
present and the data is correct you allow access to all features,  
otherwise you only allow access to the features you want the user to  
use.


A general tip:

Password protect your stack before you distribute it.

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List of Files and open file

[Oldřich Peroutka]

Hi all,

can anybody help me. I am the beginner in Revolution yet and I have 2
question.

The First question:
I have wrote the programm is comparing contain of 2 folders each other. The
first folder (source) contain is written to the first field, ?listField1?
and the second folder contain (destination) is written to the second field
?listField2?. The Items (only files) of the first field ?listField1? there
aren?t in the second field ?listField2? are written into the third field
?listField3?. This works ?OK? on local HardDrive (Mac OS 9.2.2, Windows 98
and Windows 2000) bat if I choose Folders (Source/Destination) on the net
(Ethernet - Windows) it doesn?t work. Can anybody tell me why?

The Second question:
In this programm I make button ?Open? for selected file. On ?click? to this
button, the selected file is opened in associated application. Previous to
the ?Click? I don?t know this application and the programm determines this
application without my assistance. It works ?OK? in Windows (98, 2000), and
local HardDrive. Knows anybody how to write this commands for opening of
selected file in its associated application in Mac OS 9.2.2?

The program I?m writing on Mac OS 9.2.2 and I have RunRev 5 for Mac OS
Classic.

Thanks all for help O.P.

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Re: ISAM

[Stephen Barncard]

Long long ago I looked at a dBase file and it looked like tab 
delimited texthave you checked in a text editor?




Since you were talking about dBase and Paradox, I assumed you meant
Windoze...

In that case, the dBase file format is *very* well defined and
documented. Why not just treat the dbf files as binary files, read
them into memory, and start stuffing them into arrays and such? Do you
actually need to keep them in dbf format for use by other programs?

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Re: ISAM

[Dan Shafer]

There are a lot of programs around for converting DBF files to other  
formats. A Google search is quite fruitful.



On Aug 22, 2005, at 10:36 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote:

Long long ago I looked at a dBase file and it looked like tab  
delimited texthave you checked in a text editor?





Since you were talking about dBase and Paradox, I assumed you meant
Windoze...

In that case, the dBase file format is *very* well defined and
documented. Why not just treat the dbf files as binary files, read
them into memory, and start stuffing them into arrays and such? Do  
you

actually need to keep them in dbf format for use by other programs?

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Why does this generate an error?

[Mark Swindell]

The following script is in a field, originalText.  It generates an  
error, yet at the same time it functions and puts the htmlText of the  
lines of field originalText into the messageBox.  Why does it  
generate an error  as it functions?

Thanks
Mark

on mouseMove
  global gMyLine
  put the mouseline into gMyLine
  put "the htmlText of " before gMyLine
  put value(gMyline)
end mouseMove

executing at 11:04:19 AM
Typevalue: error executing expression
ObjectOriginalText
Lineput value(gMyline)
Hintthe htmlText of
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running player makes other thing slower

[Ban Nguyen]

Hi everyone,

Does anyone run into this problem like I have?

In my rev application, I have a player (playing song and movie) running
just fine but when I scroll up and down the field, the sound is messed
up and slows down other things such as selecting a line in the field
list, clicking on a button


What should I do to fix this problem? Please help.

Thank you





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Re: running player makes other thing slower

[Trevor DeVore]

On Aug 22, 2005, at 11:17 AM, Ban Nguyen wrote:


Hi everyone,

Does anyone run into this problem like I have?

In my rev application, I have a player (playing song and movie)  
running

just fine but when I scroll up and down the field, the sound is messed
up and slows down other things such as selecting a line in the field
list, clicking on a button


Hi Ban,

If you could provide some more details about how your app is designed  
that would be great.  I have apps that use player objects and  
scrolling fields and haven't noticed any problems related to the  
two.  Information that could prove useful:


1) What platform?  Mac, Win, Both?
2) Does this happen in development and deployment or just development?
3) What codecs do your movies use?
4) How many players are active at a time?
5) Is the player in a group that you are scrolling?
6) Does your player object overlap anything that is scrolling?


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Please Unsubscribe me

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RE: running player makes other thing slower

[Ban Nguyen]

> Hi everyone,
>
> Does anyone run into this problem like I have?
>
> In my rev application, I have a player (playing song and movie)  
> running
> just fine but when I scroll up and down the field, the sound is messed
> up and slows down other things such as selecting a line in the field
> list, clicking on a button


-
Hi Ban,

If you could provide some more details about how your app is designed  
that would be great.  I have apps that use player objects and  
scrolling fields and haven't noticed any problems related to the  
two.  Information that could prove useful:

1) What platform?  Mac, Win, Both?
2) Does this happen in development and deployment or just development?
3) What codecs do your movies use?
4) How many players are active at a time?
5) Is the player in a group that you are scrolling?
6) Does your player object overlap anything that is scrolling?


-

Hi Trevor,

Information:

1) What platform?  Mac, Win, Both?

Both

2) Does this happen in development and deployment or just development?

I happened in development and deployment

3) What codecs do your movies use?

mp3 and mov

4) How many players are active at a time?

One player


5) Is the player in a group that you are scrolling?

The player is in different group (called AudioPlayer).  I have other
groups (called aboutUs, Partners,.).  When I click on the button to
go to one of these groups, the sound is paused 1 second.  The aboutUs
content has a scrollbar. It is slow when the music is playing.

6) Does your player object overlap anything that is scrolling?

No



Thank you for your help




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Weird answer dialog behavior

[sims]

Using Rev 2.6 & OS X Tiger.
Answer dialogs will not display all the text I have scripted for 
them, text does not wrap, and
the dialog is not very wide (does not expand to accommodate text). 
Text seems to run off

the dialog and into space.

I searched the archives and found Eric Chatone's patch at:
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2005-June/060751.html

I installed that patch, restarted Rev but still have the issue of not
all text appearing in the answer dialog field.

Is there some magical incantation I should try?


ciao,
sims
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ANN: Some routines for Spotlight

[Yves COPPE]

Hi Thierry,


your code :

put unidecode(uniencode(thefilename,"utf8"),"ansi")

1) is very 'slow" since there are somtimes many lines in thefilename
2) is not fully translating the answer. There are further errors with  
çedilla, "œ",..



any other suggestion ??


Greetings.

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Re: running player makes other thing slower

[Trevor DeVore]

On Aug 22, 2005, at 11:55 AM, Ban Nguyen wrote:

3) What codecs do your movies use?

mp3 and mov


mov is a container format, not an actual codec.  For the video you  
would have something like sorenson 3 or H.264  If your audio/video is  
encoded using a very high data rate then this could affect  
performance during playback depending on the system.


You might try loading a still image in the player and see if the  
slowdown still occurs.  If it doesn't then I would look at that data  
rate of your movies as a potential issue.



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Re: Why does this generate an error?

[Malte Brill]

Hi Mark,

it throws an error, because gMyLine can be empty. try this:

on mouseMove
   global gMyLine
   put the mouseline into gMyLine
   if gMyLine is not empty then
 put "the htmlText of " before gMyLine
 put value(gMyline)
   end if
end mouseMove

Hope this helps,

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Re: Why does this generate an error?

[Mark Swindell]

Indeed.  Thank you.
Mark

On Aug 22, 2005, at 12:45 PM, Malte Brill wrote:


t throws an error, because gMyLine can be empty. try this:

on mouseMove
   global gMyLine
   put the mouseline into gMyLine
   if gMyLine is not empty then
 put "the htmlText of " before gMyLine
 put value(gMyline)
   end if
end mouseMove

Hope this helps,


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CGI Advice

[Gregory Lypny]

Hello everyone,

I'm finally starting on my first Rev CGI project after a number  
of false starts and the usual delays.


I have some basic CGIs successfully invoking scripts in a stack,  
and I have a question concerning the storage of data.  Do you think  
it is better to store data, for example, student class lists, as a  
fields in the stack or as a text files?  All of the lists that will  
be created will be editable by students or by me and none will be  
longer than, say, 50,000 lines.  I'm also interested in your thoughts  
on how to avoid update anomalies, that is, where data is being  
updated by more than one student at the same time.  I was thinking  
about a "busy" variable of some sort.


Regards,

Greg


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Re: CGI Advice

[Pierre Sahores]

Hi Greg,

Have an eye on this if that can help :



Best,


Le 22 août 05 à 22:45, Gregory Lypny a écrit :


Hello everyone,

I'm finally starting on my first Rev CGI project after a number  
of false starts and the usual delays.


I have some basic CGIs successfully invoking scripts in a  
stack, and I have a question concerning the storage of data.  Do  
you think it is better to store data, for example, student class  
lists, as a fields in the stack or as a text files?  All of the  
lists that will be created will be editable by students or by me  
and none will be longer than, say, 50,000 lines.  I'm also  
interested in your thoughts on how to avoid update anomalies, that  
is, where data is being updated by more than one student at the  
same time.  I was thinking about a "busy" variable of some sort.


Regards,

Greg


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John Molson School of Business
Concordia University
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RE: running player makes other thing slower

[Ban Nguyen]

On Aug 22, 2005, at 11:55 AM, Ban Nguyen wrote:
> 3) What codecs do your movies use?
>
> mp3 and mov

mov is a container format, not an actual codec.  For the video you  
would have something like sorenson 3 or H.264  If your audio/video is  
encoded using a very high data rate then this could affect  
performance during playback depending on the system.

You might try loading a still image in the player and see if the  
slowdown still occurs.  If it doesn't then I would look at that data  
rate of your movies as a potential issue.


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Re: Spell Checker

[Alex Tweedly]

Stephen Barncard wrote:

How would one use this dictionary? I downloaded one of the 
dictionaries and it was not plain text. Looked like binary.


It's an XPI format file - which is basically just a ZIP format with some 
special requirements for Mozilla.


Unzip it, you gets two files   xx.dic and xx.aff  which are the 
"standard" myspell format. (you also get some other files you don't need 
and can ignore).


(btw - this is the same format as used by OpenOffice - so you may 
already have the dictionaries you need installed, in 
/share/dict   )



http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/dictionary.html  and the links from 
it will tell you how to interpret them (which I have to admit doesn't 
look trivial).


(Sorry, I haven't yet written a Transcript library to do this - I found 
these when I needed a word list for a game, and later decided to let the 
user build their own list, so didn't ever do anything with them )


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Re: running player makes other thing slower

[Trevor DeVore]

On Aug 22, 2005, at 2:37 PM, Ban Nguyen wrote:


I am using mp3 file with encoded with 96 data rate


That shouldn't cause any playback problems.  Did you try loading a  
still image into the player?  Do you have any code that watches  
monitors the status of the player object while it is playing  
(updating a progress bar)?  Perhaps that is firing too often and  
slowing things down?



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Sending mail via libSMTP on cgi

[Thomas McCarthy]

1. Will libSMTP work from a rev cgi?

2. Any reason to use it instead of my host's built-in mail cgi?

Yes, Andre, 'cron' is my new friend. Actually more of an acquaintance.

Where is this going? I thought it would be nice to send my students emails 
automatically--homework reminders, thoughts of the day, etc.

many thanks
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RE: running player makes other thing slower

[Ban Nguyen]

On Aug 22, 2005, at 2:37 PM, Ban Nguyen wrote:
>
> I am using mp3 file with encoded with 96 data rate

That shouldn't cause any playback problems.  Did you try loading a  
still image into the player?  Do you have any code that watches  
monitors the status of the player object while it is playing  
(updating a progress bar)?  Perhaps that is firing too often and  
slowing things down?


-

I have progress bar with this script:


on MouseDown
  local i, j, l, x
  put the ClickLoc into l 
  put item 1 of l into x
  subtract the left of scrollbar "myProgressBar" from x
  put x / the width of scrollbar "myProgressBar" into x 
  put x * the duration of player "myPlayer" into x
  set the currentTime of player "myPlayer" to round(x)
end MouseDown




BTW, how can I load a still image into a player?



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Scripting conference - Menus stack updated

[J. Landman Gay]

The excellent scripting conference stack on Menus has been updated to 
include the chat transcript and is now online:




Presented by Jeanne DeVoto, the transcript log contains additional 
information on menus which was not present in the original stack. The 
Menus stack and chat session was very highly acclaimed by those in 
attendance, and it is one you will want to add to your library.


You will also want to mark your calendars for our next conference, to be 
given by guru Ken Ray on September 3. Stay tuned for details.


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Re: Sending mail via libSMTP on cgi

[Dan Shafer]

On Aug 22, 2005, at 3:57 PM, Thomas McCarthy wrote:



1. Will libSMTP work from a rev cgi?


Just a SWAG but it probably would.


2. Any reason to use it instead of my host's built-in mail cgi?


Not that I can think of.


Yes, Andre, 'cron' is my new friend. Actually more of an acquaintance.

Where is this going? I thought it would be nice to send my students  
emails automatically--homework reminders, thoughts of the day, etc.


many thanks
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Re: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[Dan Shafer]

Kagi was indeed working on such a module when we held RevCon West a  
couple of months ago. As far as I can tell, they have not yet  
announced that product.


Disabling some features of the product until some condition is met is  
straightforward provided, of course, you've modularized your code  
sufficiently.


I don't suspect this kind of thing would be hard to roll your own.  
The "hard" part is coming up with an unlock code/mechanism that can't  
be trivially cracked.


On Aug 22, 2005, at 10:22 AM, Malte Brill wrote:


Hi Levi,

>At this point I'm looking for any system to do this, perhaps it  
could be web integrated


I vaguely recall that there should have been a Kagi Module for  
Revolution. I could also be wrong. :-) Kee might be able to tell  
you more about it. Maybe this thread is interesting:


http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-December/ 
048308.html


>be able to unlock with a serial code while offline,
>anything of the sort.

This could easiely be scripted. I have a demo stack available here.  
Scripts are commented.


http://www.derbrill.de/revstack/passwort.rev.zip

Once the user has unlocked your program you can write it into an  
external file (which your app checks for at startup) If the file is  
present and the data is correct you allow access to all features,  
otherwise you only allow access to the features you want the user  
to use.


A general tip:

Password protect your stack before you distribute it.

Hope that helps,

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Windows tray

[Matthew]

I have played with the STSTray program by Sons of thunder 
and liked it but I was wondering if there is any way of 
doing that in revolution and not through STSTray.
If you do send me a message, send it to me because I have 
unsubscribed from the mailing list because it gives me too 
much email.

Sincerely, Matt
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RE: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[Scott Kane]

> I don't suspect this kind of thing would be hard to roll your own.  
> The "hard" part is coming up with an unlock code/mechanism 
> that can't  
> be trivially cracked.

On Windows I use Armadillo - http://www.siliconrealms.com

I've never been cracked.  It blocks Soft Ice and similar
debuggers and even if they unwrap the protective shield
around the app' I use nanomites (a feature of Armadillo)
to obfuscate critical parts of the code.  Not only are
these impossible to decipher Armadillo places over 2,500
fake entry points into the app' making cracking a nightmare.
Crackers web pages I've visited to see how Armadillo stacked
up advise wanna-be pirates to choose a program that is not
protect by Armadillo instead.  I haven't tried it with Rev
and it is *only* a Windows 32 and 64 bit tool.  It also
shrinks the final executable.

A traditional way of protecting an app' is leaving critical code
blocks out of the trial version.  There is less chance of
a hacker getting the missing code blocks and making their
own that there is for them enabling something that is disabled
for the demo.  For example - being able to add new records
to a database by providing only the code for editing and
not inserting.

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Re: developing win32 externals...

[Mark Wieder]

Chris-

Have you tried the Devpak for MySQL? I haven't myself, but it's
supposed to work...

http://devpaks.org/details.php?devpak=79

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Monday, August 22, 2005, 8:22:37 AM, you wrote:

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> bloodshed you'll get linker errors. (in particular, I've had this problem
> with some mysql and imagemagick libs)


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Drooling yet for TAOO?

[MisterX]

Hi good people,

This is just a taste of the GUI of TAOO...

http://monsieurx.com/hyper/xos/screenshots/TAOOScreenShot.png 

Im almost done with the "visual" part of it...

im in heaven, most of it works
sorry, i couldn't resist sharing it!

Now comes the "objects"... sql, records, cards, lines, etc...

BTW, BvG,
the top most window is the new Chat client for ChatRev by BVG...
coming soon...

This screenshot not far from what i usually have in front of me...
The screen is NEVER big enough...

more hint-screenshots at http://monsieurx.com/hyper/xos/screenshots/

i may not respond soon as i just got the demo of GT-legengs...

revcheers
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Re: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[Dan Shafer]

Great practical advice, Scott. Thanks for sharing.


On Aug 22, 2005, at 6:44 PM, Scott Kane wrote:





I don't suspect this kind of thing would be hard to roll your own.
The "hard" part is coming up with an unlock code/mechanism
that can't
be trivially cracked.



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Re: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[Oak Norton]

Armadillo looks great but appears to be only Windows based. Is there another 
tool that will also work for Mac & Linux builds along with Windows?
 Thanks,

Oak

 On 8/22/05, Scott Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> 
> > I don't suspect this kind of thing would be hard to roll your own.
> > The "hard" part is coming up with an unlock code/mechanism
> > that can't
> > be trivially cracked.
> 
> On Windows I use Armadillo - http://www.siliconrealms.com
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RE: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[Scott Kane]

> Great practical advice, Scott. Thanks for sharing.

You are most welcome.  Members, please feel free to
ask anytime about this stuff.  Without trying to blow
my horn I've been in amongst this stuff for a couple
of decades and moderate three Big 8 newsgroups on
Usenet:  
comp.software.shareware.authors
comp.software.shareware.users
comp.software.shareware.announce.

You'll find people there (particularly in the authors group)
that can and will answer many of these kind of questions.

Best Regards,

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RE: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[Scott Kane]

> Armadillo looks great but appears to be only Windows based. 
> Is there another 
> tool that will also work for Mac & Linux builds along with 
> Windows?  Thanks,

None that I know of for Mac and *nix.  I'd look at other
strategies.  Nag screens with timer coundowns (no more
than 5 seconds though) exit nag screens with order info,
watermarked printing output, disabled cut, copy and paste.
You need to think outside the squares a bit I think for this
market

Scott


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RE: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[Scott Kane]

Having said that about Mac and *nix
take a look at http://www.esellerate.net/

They are a registration service (collect money
on behalf of software authors) and have a 
wrapper/order generator for software.  They
have an SDK for Mac, but I'm not aware of a
*nix one...

Scott


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what is a cgi.sh?

[sims]

 sims wrote:

Using Rev 2.6 & OS X Tiger.
Answer dialogs will not display all the text I have scripted for 
them, text does not wrap, and
the dialog is not very wide (does not expand to accommodate text). 
Text seems to run off

the dialog and into space.

I searched the archives and found Eric Chatone's patch at:
http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2005-June/060751.html

I installed that patch, restarted Rev but still have the issue of not
all text appearing in the answer dialog field.



After more searching at Bugzilla I came across a patch made by Rev which
is "attachment.cgi.sh" that claims to fix my problem.

What do I do with such a file? How do I run this?

ciao,
sims
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confirmation problem

[MisterX]

Just discovered that the lockmessages command
is not respected by the palette  command.

I have a card preopenstack handler that gets triggered!

Can anyone confirm this...

recipee

make a button that contains this cool little script
it's my palette to stack mode switcher

create button "Pal"
set the autohilite of it to false


on mouseUp
  lock screen
  lock messages
   
  get (the short name of this stack)
  put the topleft of this stack into x
  
  if the hilite of me then

unhilite me
toplevel it
set the decorations of stack it to default
set the topleft of this stack to x
 
  else

hilite me
palette it
set the decorations of stack it to ""
set the topleft of this stack to x
  end if
end mouseup

in your stack's card script put

on preopenstack
  put the time
  pass preopenstack
end preopenstack

When you toplevel the stack, you wont see the time
but if you "Palette" the stack, you will...

This is a bug right?

cheers
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Re: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[Richard Gaskin]

Scott Kane wrote:

Great practical advice, Scott. Thanks for sharing.


You are most welcome.  Members, please feel free to
ask anytime about this stuff.  Without trying to blow
my horn I've been in amongst this stuff for a couple
of decades and moderate three Big 8 newsgroups on
Usenet:  
comp.software.shareware.authors

comp.software.shareware.users
comp.software.shareware.announce.

You'll find people there (particularly in the authors group)
that can and will answer many of these kind of questions.


You're one of the moderators there?  So cool!

Folks, he's being modest:  for small software development shops like 
most of us have, those newsgroups are the most valuable things in Usenet.


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RE: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[MisterX]

Last year, i was working on a specialized registration manager module. 

It is based on different types of registration schemes (1-x users),
different key exchange schemes, proprietary algorithms,
quantized-encryption, hardware-locking, etc...

It can work in any stack with or without net registration.

Unfortunately there wasn't much interest so I dropped the project's priority
until i would require it for TAOO's release... 

Price is EU mid 3 digits for the registration kits (encrypted stack made for
your program), 4 digits for the full SDK and code... Depends on what you
need... There is also a registration database/management tool that comes
with it and examples.

If i have 3 committed customers, i'll put it's priority back to #1...
1-3 months required for the release depending on the options you need.

cheers
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Re: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[kee nethery]

Just waiting for Andre to finish it and release it.
Kee


On Aug 22, 2005, at 4:18 PM, Dan Shafer wrote:

Kagi was indeed working on such a module when we held RevCon West a  
couple of months ago. As far as I can tell, they have not yet  
announced that product.


Disabling some features of the product until some condition is met  
is straightforward provided, of course, you've modularized your  
code sufficiently.


I don't suspect this kind of thing would be hard to roll your own.  
The "hard" part is coming up with an unlock code/mechanism that  
can't be trivially cracked.


On Aug 22, 2005, at 10:22 AM, Malte Brill wrote:



Hi Levi,

>At this point I'm looking for any system to do this, perhaps it  
could be web integrated


I vaguely recall that there should have been a Kagi Module for  
Revolution. I could also be wrong. :-) Kee might be able to tell  
you more about it. Maybe this thread is interesting:


http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-December/ 
048308.html


>be able to unlock with a serial code while offline,
>anything of the sort.

This could easiely be scripted. I have a demo stack available  
here. Scripts are commented.


http://www.derbrill.de/revstack/passwort.rev.zip

Once the user has unlocked your program you can write it into an  
external file (which your app checks for at startup) If the file  
is present and the data is correct you allow access to all  
features, otherwise you only allow access to the features you want  
the user to use.


A general tip:

Password protect your stack before you distribute it.

Hope that helps,

Malte


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RE: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[Scott Kane]

> You're one of the moderators there?  So cool!

Yep.  I was the first one.  Kathy is now my co-mod.
Works well as we are in two time zones.
 
> Folks, he's being modest:  for small software development shops like 
> most of us have, those newsgroups are the most valuable 
> things in Usenet.

Actually - there's an internet trade association you
might be interested in.  I was one of the first members.
It's the "Association of Independent Software Industry Professionals".
or AISIP for short.

It's a modest fee (under US$25 a year if I remember right) and features
several *private* newsgroups where things like marketing, technical
details and industry news.  URL is:  http://www.aisip.com
While shareware members exist it is not aimed at shareware marketers,
but at anybody distributing software online or offering services
and resources to software developers.  Fantastic atmosphere and
very mature content (it's post moderated to make sure things stay
nice and pleasant).  There are more threads than I can count and
it's more active than the public groups on Usenet.  N.B.  I'm
just a happy subscriber - I make no money or gain any kudos from
recommending it.

If you look at the members page it reads like the who's who of
the online software distribution industry.
http://www.aisip.com/aisip-members.php

Scott Kane


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RE: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[Scott Kane]

Sounds good, but a little pricey?  What is
your idea of 3 digits?  Over US$100?

Just curious, not being critical.

Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MisterX
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 August 2005 2:55 PM
> To: 'How to use Revolution'
> Subject: RE: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool
> 
> 
> Last year, i was working on a specialized registration 
> manager module. 
> 
> It is based on different types of registration schemes (1-x 
> users), different key exchange schemes, proprietary 
> algorithms, quantized-encryption, hardware-locking, etc...
> 
> It can work in any stack with or without net registration.
> 
> Unfortunately there wasn't much interest so I dropped the 
> project's priority until i would require it for TAOO's release... 
> 
> Price is EU mid 3 digits for the registration kits (encrypted 
> stack made for your program), 4 digits for the full SDK and 
> code... Depends on what you need... There is also a 
> registration database/management tool that comes with it and examples.
> 
> If i have 3 committed customers, i'll put it's priority back 
> to #1... 1-3 months required for the release depending on the 
> options you need.
> 
> cheers
> Xavier
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RE: Revolution Compatible Registration Tool

[Scott Kane]

> Just waiting for Andre to finish it and release it.

Seeing that Kagi is Mac Mecca () I'd be very pleased
to hear when it is finished!  :-)

Scott


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