Re: text fields don't focusIn
but it should see openfield and closefield messages As list-behaviour fld should function much like a button. I am not familiar with all the variations and objects, but I think if you look at some of the detail work the Chipp Walters has done in the area of UI there will be some great examples and 'bug' workarounds. Hope you find your answers. Most likely it will be someone on the list who really know. Jim Ault Las Vegas On 6/24/06 10:20 PM, Jared Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interestingly, Message Watcher doesn't even see the mouseDown when I click in the text field. It sees it when I click my list field, though! Very strange. The only thing that shows up when I click the text field is some cryptic thing called cREVGeneral. On 6/25/06, Jared Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it's a mesage passing issue, because a list field in the same stack works just fine with focusIn/focusOut. It's just this text field. I was hoping someone would say that text fields handle focus differently, but I guess not. On 6/24/06, Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/24/06 7:29 PM, Jared Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This issue seems so basic, yet I'm going crazy over it. I've put a focusIn handler inside a text field which tells it to do something. When I click the text field (thus focusing in on it), nothing happens. Am I doing something wrong? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AltBrowser Question
I hope that any AltBrowser users can help me with this question. I am trying to set the htmltext of AltBrowser to use: 1) Another field’s contents (using XBrowser_Set “htmltext”, pStr) 2) A local file’s contents (using XBrowser_Set “url”, pLocalURL) Somehow, I am unable to get my examples working (I have read the documentation several times and did not see this feature in the demo stack). It’s probably a simple mistake I’m making, but I’ve been scratching my head for several hours, would anyone be able to point me in the right direction with a working example please? Thanks! Ivan Wong ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: libURLftpUploadFile insanity
On 25 Jun 2006, at 04:07, stevex64 wrote: This one should be simple and it's driving me insane! Here is the code: on mouseUp answer file Select a file to upload put [EMAIL PROTECTED] into userName put myPW into userPassword put ftp.mydomain.com into myServer put ftp://; URLEncode(userName) : userPassword @ myServer into myFTPURL libURLftpUploadFile it, myFTPURL put libUrlErrorData(myFTPURL) end mouseUp After I get the select file dialog box and select the file I want to upload, I always get this message, invalid URL: The url has to be a path to a file on the server, not just the server itself. For example, put ftp://; URLEncode(userName) : \ userPassword @ myServer /myFile.txt \ into myFTPURL Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: text fields don't focusIn
Jared Smith wrote: I don't think it's a mesage passing issue, because a list field in the same stack works just fine with focusIn/focusOut. It's just this text field. I was hoping someone would say that text fields handle focus differently, but I guess not. I believe editable fields don't get focusIn or focusOut. Instead of focusIn they get openField, and instead of focusOut they get exitField (if the text hasn't changed) or closefield (if it has). -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows system tray
Sarah Reichelt wrote: Hi All, Another Mac user trying to understand Windows question coming up :-) In Rev 2.7.2, there are various new unsupported features to do with the icon and it's menus. I understand how this works for the Mac's Dock, but I don't see how it works for the Windows system tray. When I minimise an app in Windows, I get an entry along the bottom in the task bar. I would really like to be able to get nothing but a small icon in the system tray. *you* might like that. What would your Windows users - who are presumably more familiar with the way Windows usually works - like ? I suspect they might be confused by such a non-standard behaviour, unless it's a system app (network connections, wifi status and anti-virus/firewall are about the only ones I've seen do that). -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release Date: 23/06/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tm|tools Reminder
At long last BEAUTIFUL GAUGES Great ! Great ! Great ! Regards - Original Message - From: Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: tm|tools Reminder Hey Folks: Just a reminder that the special pricing on our tm|audio and tm|gauge tools ends Sunday at midnight PST. Until then, you can still get tm|audio with 800+ sound effects for $59 (reg $79) and tm|gauge for building data widgets for $79 (reg $99). If you haven't seen the gauge demo yet, run the following in your Rev 2.7 message box to play with real gauges built using tm|gauge. go url http://www.tactilemedia.com/download/gauge_samples.rev; Get the special pricing only by visiting this link: http://www.tactilemedia.com/showspecials/ You still have time to save on tools to enhance your next project. :-) Best Regards, Scott Rossi Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release Date: 23/06/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: libURLftpUploadFile insanity
Ugh, I knew it had to be a simple thing. Thank you! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/libURLftpUploadFile-insanity-t1842984.html#a5033832 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows system tray
When I minimise an app in Windows, I get an entry along the bottom in the task bar. I would really like to be able to get nothing but a small icon in the system tray. *you* might like that. What would your Windows users - who are presumably more familiar with the way Windows usually works - like ? I suspect they might be confused by such a non-standard behaviour, unless it's a system app (network connections, wifi status and anti-virus/firewall are about the only ones I've seen do that). It is for one particular app that runs permanently in the background, so I thought it a suitable candidate for the system tray. I've also had several requests to put it there, but as you all know, I am no Windows expert, so if this is deprecated in the Windows world, please let me know. Thanks, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: about media...
Is it available for Enterprise users? or we have to pay another license fee? On Jun 23, 2006, at 3:27 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote: Currently Media is a sort of all you can eat buffet, with little market overlap among templates. Is there an area we might focus on to help target a specific market segment? I don't know. To be honest, I haven't really had much time to even look at Media, but the Rev team would be the people to ask. I really *should* go look at Media, actually, because my parrots are in it. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: libURLftpUploadFile insanity
Yes, I have a number of empty patches on my scalp where whole sections of hair were pulled out on this matter. (smile) First simplest line of investigation: You may not want to be declaring the protocol in the domain name. if you have that kind of user name (I have them on one of our servers) it means you may be running on a virtual host on a shared IP... (another story) and the DNS-FTP servers may not be happy with ftp.myDomain.com --- just use the same string you do for browsing. Start simple: test this in the msg box: put hostNametoAddress(ftp.mydomain.com) If you get an IP, then that means that is *not* the problem..and get back to us... if you don't get an IP then that *is* the problem. Unless you have direct control over your DNS, not all DNS set ups on virtual hosts will necessarily make an A name or CName entry in the matrix for ftp.mydomain.com for security reasons, so proceed as follows try this test in the msgbox (multi line) [note that parenthesis may help... as URL expressions don't always evaluate as expected] put [EMAIL PROTECTED] into userName put url (ftp://; URLEncode(userName) \ :[EMAIL PROTECTED]/httpdocs[orhtml]/someFooDirectory/) and you should get a file listing. www.myDomain.com will simply resolve to the IP for your domain, which is what you want. if that works, then you are good to go... if not, take a deep breath: take the next steps: On some servers you have to call an explicit path from the virtual server root for it to work at all... *not* from DOCROOT as defined in the httpd.conf file... That's because Apache is not handling this thing but the FTP server on the box is. e.g. easiest way to find out: if you use an FTP client and simply log into the domain without any path and it drops you into the virtual private serve root you will see something like etc var private bin etc... and you need to explore such arcane strings as: ftp://fooUser:[EMAIL PROTECTED]//var/www/html/somefooDirectory Yes, you may need double slash in there for this to work correctly and use the full explicit string from there down to the httpdocs (or /html/ depending on the OS config...), almost always in /var/ www/ directory tech support can fiddle with the FTP server config (not something you want to play with unless you really know what you are doing) to make sure you always get dropped into the var/ www/html directory, but that's not standard, because many macho users will want FTP access to the other lo-level none HTML directories if they are savvy enough to use them with out breaking anything. In your FTP client you start digging into /var then /www then /html/ and when you get to see your web directories, look at the explicit FTP URL currently displayed in you FTP client and emulate that in Rev. I've been down this road several times Good luck. Sivakatirswami On Jun 24, 2006, at 5:07 PM, stevex64 wrote: on mouseUp answer file Select a file to upload put [EMAIL PROTECTED] into userName put myPW into userPassword put ftp.mydomain.com into myServer put ftp://; URLEncode(userName) : userPassword @ myServer into myFTPURL libURLftpUploadFile it, myFTPURL put libUrlErrorData(myFTPURL) end mouseUp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Getting Mileage Data from Google Maps
Hi Folks... Part of our business tax structure allows us to claim a percentage of our business mileage. Like many entrepreneurs, I consistently forget to write down my starting and ending mileage when I'm on the road. When it comes to tax time (like what we just went thru), I am always faced with recreating my travel scenario. I do have my expense receipts and can identify the destinations. My starting point is always the same - my office. I'm looking at developing a stack that can take two destinations, my office and the address on my receipt, give them to a service like Google Maps and get the distance between the locations. Is there a way to do this using Rev? Jim -- www.TalentSeeker.ca www.HiringSmart.ca/ns www.KeepingTheBest.ca/ns http://www.OwnYourFuture-net.com Own Your Future Consulting Services Limited, 23 Shoal Cove Road, Seabright, Nova Scotia, Canada. B3Z 3A9 Phone: 902-823-2339. Fax: 902-823-2139 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: about media...
If you mean the 2.7 file format on disk, Media can read any stack produced by any edition of Revolution. Enterprise users could write templates as long as they knew the specs for the template stacks. Cool - thanks for the clarification. Currently Media is a sort of all you can eat buffet, with little market overlap among templates. Is there an area we might focus on to help target a specific market segment? Somebody's been picking from my steamer here ;-) They target the prosumer graphics market, though kiosk builder doesn't quite fit between the tatter tots and sweet corn (remove kiosk builder and the others gel better). On the other hand, if you fit that segment and are a student, kiosk builder is nice for building projects for school since it shows text along with the graphic. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows system tray
Sarah Reichelt wrote: When I minimise an app in Windows, I get an entry along the bottom in the task bar. I would really like to be able to get nothing but a small icon in the system tray. *you* might like that. What would your Windows users - who are presumably more familiar with the way Windows usually works - like ? I suspect they might be confused by such a non-standard behaviour, unless it's a system app (network connections, wifi status and anti-virus/firewall are about the only ones I've seen do that). It is for one particular app that runs permanently in the background, so I thought it a suitable candidate for the system tray. I've also had several requests to put it there, but as you all know, I am no Windows expert, so if this is deprecated in the Windows world, please let me know. No, it's not (AFAIK) deprecated - merely unusual and is just fine in the right circumstances; from your description, this sounds very much like the right kind of app to do this. Sorry for being alarmist (just there are too many cases of companies that port from one platform to another and keeping the right UI from the platform they are used to, rather than adapting the platform standard one - Apple is a good example). -- Alex Tweedly http://www.tweedly.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release Date: 23/06/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: U3 apps and rev
Just saw the newsletter article on revolution and U3 apps. I am a bit confused about why you would need U3 compatibility with Rev since you can make standalones that do not require anything to be installed and run fine from a flash drive (i actually keep a couple of my rev cdrom multimedia apps on a flash drive to show off, easier than carting CDs in your pocket!). so im wondering what the U3 specifications are adding for rev. U3 provides an API for handling issues like intelligent shut downs and specific device IDs among others. Your identity exists on the smart drive, not on whatever host you are on, and to be U3 compliant means you arent leaving registry doodle on whatever computer you are using. you might want to have access to? they have a little start panel you can get onto for the drive. something to just say you are U3 enabled? it seems like having to jump through U3's hoops rather than much rev has to do than it already does. Sorry i just smell more marketing here than technology, but maybe im wrong and if so would be interested in hearing other views. There is no mention of licensing fees (or potential future ones) on their site for U3, but its not very explicit content to make a firm decision on. Somewhere between marketing and technology are solutions - that's where U3 and Revolution both sit. One example of something you could achive as a developer is to create apps that are specifically licensed for a specific U3 drive - kind of like a dongle that also contains the app it runs. I think what you are really asking with licensing fees is - where does U3 make money, if not from me (and do they want to squeeze me later)? They make money off of the very large flash drive makers for licensing. Its to their benefit that U3 compliant apps are available. And, with their Software Central venue, they are in a position to help you reach a lot of potential customers who are specifically looking for U3 compliant apps. Also the article stated you would need an enterprise license to do U3. isnt this just another version of the XP engine? Shouldnt you be able to make standlanones with this engine like you can with a studio license like all the other current platforms (the article stated you required an enterprise license, but maybe thats only for the beta?) The beta is available for Enterprise customers but after its been finalized it will show up in the other products. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] A continuing pain
Hi Richmond,
The problem is that because the primate over-generalises it expects
consistency . .
Therein lies the crux of most of the stresses, strains, and totally
illogical behavior we experience in today's human society.
Quantum physics demonstrates time and again that chaos and
uncertainty are the norm at the molecular level at which our
individual cells experience reality--and that many commonly-accepted
truths are in actuality social myths that are at odds with, and
blind us to, the realities of an ever-changing universe.
In that regard, perhaps we should thank xTalk creators for forcing us
to deal with uncertainty or inconsistency.:{`)
Rob Cozens, CCW
Serendipity Software Company
The problems facing today's society can not be solved by the level
of thinking that created them. -- Albert Einstein
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RE: about media...
Is it available for Enterprise users? or we have to pay another license fee? Revolution Media is $49 and not a part of Enterprise. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Menubar Problems
On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 07:02:59 -0400, John Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings All, I am writing a stack in which I want a different menubar for each of the two cards in the stack. One of my menubars works OK. However, the second one won't display all of the items. (i.e. in the File button it shows only the first three menu items; same for Edit etc.) These display correctly in Windows XP, but not under a Mac OS X. Also, when I use windows, the third menu btn is overwritten with a Help button. In my menubar, the third button is Controls. Under Windows, that button appears as Help ols. The button works OK, but I can't get it to display correctly. Can anyone shed light on these problems? The number of menu items you see when you pull down the menu is apparently governed by a property (a number which you can set using the Inspector for the particular menu (button) in your menubar group. In the Inspector pane, it's near the bottom, headed Display number items. Just pick the number you want: maybe Windows ignores this (I haven't done a test), but your experience suggests it is needed anyway for OSX. I think this property is 'the menulines', but the documentation suggests that this has no effect for a pulldown list. All very odd, but worth experimenting with. As to the overlapping menu names in the bar, you have to edit the menuBar group and move the individual menu buttons along so they don't bump into each other. It is probable that a different font will be used for OSX and Windows, so if you are picky you may have to make two versions. If you want to see the menubar under OSX so that you can edit it, you have to set the editMenus to true (you can do this in the message box). HTH Graham Graham Samuel / The Living Fossil Co. / UK and France ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Win virtualization with Parallels?
Phil, I'd echo what Sarah said - it kind of depends what you want to use Windows for. Parallels is good for most things and runs pretty much any version of Windows at close to native speed. It has some issues with USB support, but works for most things. The sharing of files with the Mac side is a little clunky, but does all that you are likely to need (no drag and drop support - one of the few things I miss about Virtual PC). Boot Camp will only run XP SP2, and it must be a full version, not an upgrade. Parallels won't work for anything that needs 3D support, since the graphic emulation is fairly basic - so games are definitely out. This is where Boot Camp comes into its own, but you do have to reboot your Mac in the process. It does seem as if my MacBook Pro runs the fans more under Boot Camp - I'm not sure if this is down to the drivers or whether the processor is working harder. I use Parallels with Windows XP Home and it works very well indeed for the few things that I need from Windows. At the price you can't go far wrong - but Apple may be working along similar lines for the next version of OS X (Leopard). If you've ever used Virtual PC, the two are very similar - except that Parallels is much, much faster. Karen On 25 Jun 2006, at 16:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:51:06 -0700 From: Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Win virtualization with Parallels? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I noticed at Revcon that one or more presenters used Parallels (virtualization product) to show Windows stuff on an Intel Mac. Can anyone comment on how well Parallels works, or if there's a better way to go? I'm thinking of taking the plunge but wanted to 'consult my sources' first. Thanks - Phil Davis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: U3 apps and rev
Unfortunately, Macintosh development on U3 appears to be just a promise. As a Rev developer, how can I take it very seriously when it lacks cross-platform support? It was a bit strange to see the U3 presenter at Revcon promoting a Windows product in a room filled with 75% powerbook G4's. Tough crowd. Death is easy, comedy is hard.. sqb U3 provides an API for handling issues like intelligent shut downs and specific device IDs among others. Your identity exists on the smart drive, not on whatever host you are on, and to be U3 compliant means you arent leaving registry doodle on whatever computer you are using. Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: U3 apps and rev
Stephen, they could always hire us to build the mac side of U3. It's just an app that loads on mount, inspect it's own volume and make a nice UI. If, and only if, that Launcher app is a normal computer application, meaning, something that windows could load by double clicking and not some rom based assembler black magic, we could just create with Rev such launcher and offer to them to include in the U3 rom. Don't know, I could talk more with that guy... is he here? does anyone have his contact? Andre On Jun 25, 2006, at 7:44 AM, Stephen Barncard wrote: Unfortunately, Macintosh development on U3 appears to be just a promise. As a Rev developer, how can I take it very seriously when it lacks cross-platform support? It was a bit strange to see the U3 presenter at Revcon promoting a Windows product in a room filled with 75% powerbook G4's. Tough crowd. Death is easy, comedy is hard.. sqb ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: U3 apps and rev
I think it's the 'hot plugging shutdown' feature that's special about what they do. I agree it's already possible to make 'portable apps' on any thumb drive without U3. Stephen, they could always hire us to build the mac side of U3. It's just an app that loads on mount, inspect it's own volume and make a nice UI. If, and only if, that Launcher app is a normal computer application, meaning, something that windows could load by double clicking and not some rom based assembler black magic, we could just create with Rev such launcher and offer to them to include in the U3 rom. Don't know, I could talk more with that guy... is he here? does anyone have his contact? Andre -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Cannot run Studio 2.7.2
Help , please Trying to install Studio 2.7.2 It goes through all the install but Revolution.exe missing ? Regards ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Parameters of pending messages
Is there any way to get the parameters that were passed to pending messages? What I want to do is suspend pending messages when a stack is suspended and then reinstate them when the stack is resumed. I just realized pendingMessages() only gives the message name, not any of the parameters. Any help would be appreciated! Peter T. Evensen 314-629-5248 or 888-682-4588 (toll free) http://www.PetersRoadtoHealth.com Get on the road to better health with Juice Plus+ 17 fruits, vegetables and grains in capsules, chewables, or gummies 24-hour pre-recorded information line: 1-800-942-1260 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
rotating images...
Hi Folks, anyone here have found a way to rotate images in Rev? Cheers andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Getting Mileage Data from Google Maps
Without having even tried this kind of magic, I will say yes! There's two ways you would go about it: 1) An API. Google has APIs for just about everything, so if you scrounge around in their developer area a bit I'm sure you'll find one for Google maps. Actually, I found this bit on http://www.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/ The Google Maps API does not include routing services at this time. However, there are a number of free routing APIs on the web. If you would like to add local search capabilities to your site, you can use the Google AJAX Search API to embed a local search module into your site. The free routing API sounds like something you might want. http://www.google.com/search?q=free+routing+api Looks like MapQuest has one. 2) Parsing the HTML. If you can construct the proper URL with parameters, you would get back a page with the HTML for the directions and whatnot. Google maps always says something like Distance: 12.6m (about 15 mins) on that page. And that text appears nowhere else. So, if you can coax a valid result out of Google or any other mapping system, you could try to find that text in the soup of JavaScript and style sheets and whatnot that is returned. All things equal, I'd investigate #1 first. Jim Carwardine wrote: I'm looking at developing a stack that can take two destinations, my office and the address on my receipt, give them to a service like Google Maps and get the distance between the locations. Is there a way to do this using Rev? Jim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: U3 apps and rev
While we're on the subject, does anyone know what specific things you must do to a Rev app to make it usable on any generic thumb drive? I'd like to distribute such a version along with a U3 version and give the users a choice. On 6/25/06, Stephen Barncard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's the 'hot plugging shutdown' feature that's special about what they do. I agree it's already possible to make 'portable apps' on any thumb drive without U3. Stephen, they could always hire us to build the mac side of U3. It's just an app that loads on mount, inspect it's own volume and make a nice UI. If, and only if, that Launcher app is a normal computer application, meaning, something that windows could load by double clicking and not some rom based assembler black magic, we could just create with Rev such launcher and offer to them to include in the U3 rom. Don't know, I could talk more with that guy... is he here? does anyone have his contact? Andre -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cannot run Studio 2.7.2
Install and uninstall of Rev 2.7.x is still really work in progress as far as I can tell. I've done the trial of each revision and it has never worked right. You need to go into the C:\Program Files\Revolution... folder and find the right .EXE file. Camm29 wrote: Trying to install Studio 2.7.2 It goes through all the install but Revolution.exe missing ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Subject: Getting Mileage Data from Google Maps
Hi from Paris, I have a stack which calculates distances between two points. It has 4000 cities to choose from, including all cities in the US down to 50,000 people, but you can strip out what you don't want, and enter your own Destinations, if you can find out the geographical coordinates from some site. It would probably be convenient to build your own list of Client addresses/locations, and enter them in the place of my City information. You would not have to use real city names, but client names, to make it easy. User Space = effendi, Stack = Distance Six possible Intermediate Cities, in between Start City and End City allows you to calculate extensive trips, with stopovers. And it runs on Mac and PC, thanks to Revolution ! Feel free to use it and modify it it it fits the bill. It doesn't answer all your request, but it goes half-way -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: U3 apps and rev
It was a bit strange to see the U3 presenter at Revcon promoting a Windows product in a room filled with 75% powerbook G4's. Tough crowd. Death is easy, comedy is hard. It didn't seem strange to me. Nathan asked how many people develop cross-platform applications and the vast majority of hands went up. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Subject: Getting Mileage Data from Google Maps
That would be as the crow flies -- since he's getting credit on his taxes for every mile actually travelled he'll want the actual route mileage, which will always be longer. His routes will also very likely be intra-city or suburbs at best. Losts of 10-mile and 20-mile trips adding up. Nice to know about your stack, though. Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: I have a stack which calculates distances between two points. It has 4000 cities to choose from, including all cities in the US down to 50,000 people [...] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: U3 apps and rev
Regardless of my lame attempt at comedy writing, I rest my case. It would appear the hands went up in favor of cross-platform-nessthat U3 can't deliver... It didn't seem strange to me. Nathan asked how many people develop cross-platform applications and the vast majority of hands went up. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd It was a bit strange to see the U3 presenter at Revcon promoting a Windows product in a room filled with 75% powerbook G4's. Tough crowd. Death is easy, comedy is hard. -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Subject: Getting Mileage Data from Google Maps
Thanks, guys... I've never done anything as heavy as use an API, although I'm aware of them. I'll see what I can find. I liked the Google maps because that have a very accurate directions description for where I live - about 25 km outside of Halifax and each turn in direction is accompanied by a distance so I assume that the total distance is the sum of the individual sections. It also appears that Google uses Mapquest as the output is identical... Jim on 6/25/06 4:37 PM, Bill Marriott wrote: That would be as the crow flies -- since he's getting credit on his taxes for every mile actually travelled he'll want the actual route mileage, which will always be longer. His routes will also very likely be intra-city or suburbs at best. Losts of 10-mile and 20-mile trips adding up. Nice to know about your stack, though. Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: I have a stack which calculates distances between two points. It has 4000 cities to choose from, including all cities in the US down to 50,000 people [...] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- www.TalentSeeker.ca www.HiringSmart.ca/ns www.KeepingTheBest.ca/ns http://www.OwnYourFuture-net.com Own Your Future Consulting Services Limited, 23 Shoal Cove Road, Seabright, Nova Scotia, Canada. B3Z 3A9 Phone: 902-823-2339. Fax: 902-823-2139 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: U3 apps and rev
Regardless of my lame attempt at comedy writing, I rest my case. It would appear the hands went up in favor of cross-platform-nessthat U3 can't deliver... They don't have the complete system for Mac and Linux currently - you only get the security dialog, which isnt the fun part. But first things first - as a software vendor, if you can differentiate your (windows only) version in such a way that it is suddenly attractive _and visible_ to a very, very large group and conforming to that standard is just a recompile, why not? One of the big challenges in selling into the Windows market is that while it is a huge market compared to the Mac, there's also a lot of potential competition to reach the narrow band of target customers on that platform. You have an opportunity to differentiate your product this way and make it visible to those who purchase and utlize features of U3. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cannot run Studio 2.7.2
Downloaded a few times retried. Revolution.exe is only 1.7 Mb ? The shortcuts that the installer puts on the desktop are invalid ? cannot find Revolution Help ? Regards - Original Message - From: Bill Marriott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:00 PM Subject: Re: Cannot run Studio 2.7.2 Install and uninstall of Rev 2.7.x is still really work in progress as far as I can tell. I've done the trial of each revision and it has never worked right. You need to go into the C:\Program Files\Revolution... folder and find the right .EXE file. Camm29 wrote: Trying to install Studio 2.7.2 It goes through all the install but Revolution.exe missing ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release Date: 23/06/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Cannot run Studio 2.7.2
Ignore my comment on the size of the .exe file Still will not load , the shortcut created is incorrect for the folder in which 2.7.2 has the revolution.exe ? A small window opens and cannot be maximised nor contents read ? On the taskbar is says Product Activation... ?? Regards - Original Message - From: Camm29 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 9:13 PM Subject: Re: Cannot run Studio 2.7.2 Downloaded a few times retried. Revolution.exe is only 1.7 Mb ? The shortcuts that the installer puts on the desktop are invalid ? cannot find Revolution Help ? Regards - Original Message - From: Bill Marriott [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:00 PM Subject: Re: Cannot run Studio 2.7.2 Install and uninstall of Rev 2.7.x is still really work in progress as far as I can tell. I've done the trial of each revision and it has never worked right. You need to go into the C:\Program Files\Revolution... folder and find the right .EXE file. Camm29 wrote: Trying to install Studio 2.7.2 It goes through all the install but Revolution.exe missing ? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release Date: 23/06/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.0.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.3/374 - Release Date: 23/06/2006 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Subject: Getting Mileage Data from Google Maps
Looks like MS MapPoint has the capability but it appears to be a licensed product only. There is a 45 day free trial which is fully functional but I can't find any pricing on Sunday... https://mappoint-css.partners.extranet.microsoft.com/MwsSignup/Eval2.aspx Anyone know about a free service using MapPoint? Jim on 6/25/06 4:37 PM, Bill Marriott wrote: That would be as the crow flies -- since he's getting credit on his taxes for every mile actually travelled he'll want the actual route mileage, which will always be longer. His routes will also very likely be intra-city or suburbs at best. Losts of 10-mile and 20-mile trips adding up. Nice to know about your stack, though. Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: I have a stack which calculates distances between two points. It has 4000 cities to choose from, including all cities in the US down to 50,000 people [...] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- www.TalentSeeker.ca www.HiringSmart.ca/ns www.KeepingTheBest.ca/ns http://www.OwnYourFuture-net.com Own Your Future Consulting Services Limited, 23 Shoal Cove Road, Seabright, Nova Scotia, Canada. B3Z 3A9 Phone: 902-823-2339. Fax: 902-823-2139 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 33, Issue 37
Phil and Lynn, sorry if i sounded suspicious in my post. I was having a hard time deciphering the article and the U3 site. when the marketing hype reaches a certain point above the technology the radar goes onto high gain. I agree more places that we can market rev products the better. i was more concerned that there might be some hidden gotchas hiding in the bushes. I had talks with a whole slew of technology folks in the early 90s that were trying to get us to use their new technologies on our multimedia cdroms and pushing hardware licensing deals and most of them ended up having some pretty severe strings attached once i was able to strip away the marketing babble. the ceo was not happy for me for popping bubbles, but he always agreed that he could not live with the terms they usually wanted when brought into the light of day. Doesn't appear that U3 has these strings, but will take a bit more looking at the dev docs to tell for sure what the story is. I was assuming that they were generating their working revenue from hardware licenses, but wasn't sure if that would change at some point (some of the deals mentioned above kicked in payments after the first title or two). They mentioned there wasn't a killer app yet for U3, but one market/ approach that might end up being one of the strongest for them might be education. kids are already carting along all sorts of stuff on flash drives these days. kids are probably more mobile with content and apps these days than the wired business person! they also tend to pick up new hot technology w/o a blink, especially if its mobile. im sure we will soon see cool flash drive sleeves with all sorts of blinking stuff for the young market soon! some future ideas jump to mind: • a cool mp3 player that was highly customizable with graphics, playlists, volume control (ie automatically crank the one you always crank when you play it) • schoolwork/curriculum scheduler as so many schools are using e- systems for schoolwork due dates, trips, tests, etc • customized e-syllabus system that you could add your own notes to • lecture notes/recordings/diagrams player • etext reader/markup systems the great thing is these are all things that rev is great at doing quickly and easily and should have a great jump on other development systems. its great to see that rev should be able to slip into the U3 format pretty easily since it works so well as a standalone system already! Also great to hear that it will be an option for studio license, economics (all poor education clients now days) has forced me to drop the enterprise for studio level. cheers, Jeffrey Reynolds On Jun 25, 2006, at 11:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there something wrong with opening up new markets for Rev apps? I *hope* it's about marketing! I mean, think about it... if we build things for which there is no market, who have we benefitted? Unless I'm using Rev for self-amusement only, I would have to say no one. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevCon West - for free!
Paul.. Thanks to you, as well. Your participation was a big factor in helping make this year's RevCon as good as it was. Hopefully, RunRev will learn of your purchases and the motivation for them so they'll be even more helpful to us next year if we do another conference in Monterey. On 6/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, Chipp, Thank you, well done, worth far more than the fee. The conference is not only a great place to get-together and share thoughts, experience and insight; it is also a great investment: After hearing Kevin's outline of the Rev road map, I bought five Studio licenses, renewed my Enterprise license, and took advantage of the free Rev Media. With the show discount I saved more than the price of this year's RevCon (including lodging and transportation). Paul Looney Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Revolution Media Presentation Viewable on Web?
I've been intimidated by the full blown Revolution package and now feel a little more comfortable, especially in the area of the pocket book, since Revolution Media has been introduced. I'm mainly interested in using this product to produce educational training material that features a lot of slideshow material and captured QuickTime sessions with software demonstration. Of course, the more interactivity, the better. But, is deployment through the Runtime player the only method for viewing and distribution? Can a website equipped with a plug-in manage to demonstrate some of the interactive content that I intend to produce with Revolution Media? Thanks, Greg Smith ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevCon West - for free!
Is there a transcript or video of Kevin's comments at RevCon? Thanks, Mark On Jun 25, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: Paul.. Thanks to you, as well. Your participation was a big factor in helping make this year's RevCon as good as it was. Hopefully, RunRev will learn of your purchases and the motivation for them so they'll be even more helpful to us next year if we do another conference in Monterey. On 6/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, Chipp, Thank you, well done, worth far more than the fee. The conference is not only a great place to get-together and share thoughts, experience and insight; it is also a great investment: After hearing Kevin's outline of the Rev road map, I bought five Studio licenses, renewed my Enterprise license, and took advantage of the free Rev Media. With the show discount I saved more than the price of this year's RevCon (including lodging and transportation). Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevCon West - for free!
Kevn gave two presentations at RevCon . His opening keynote on Friday is in the video collection that Devin Asay will be marketing soon. His Sunday presentation was under non-disclosure and the video of it will NOT be released unless Kevin chooses to do so on a case-by-case basis for specific purposes. On 6/25/06, Mark Swindell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a transcript or video of Kevin's comments at RevCon? Thanks, Mark On Jun 25, 2006, at 4:11 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: Paul.. Thanks to you, as well. Your participation was a big factor in helping make this year's RevCon as good as it was. Hopefully, RunRev will learn of your purchases and the motivation for them so they'll be even more helpful to us next year if we do another conference in Monterey. On 6/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, Chipp, Thank you, well done, worth far more than the fee. The conference is not only a great place to get-together and share thoughts, experience and insight; it is also a great investment: After hearing Kevin's outline of the Rev road map, I bought five Studio licenses, renewed my Enterprise license, and took advantage of the free Rev Media. With the show discount I saved more than the price of this year's RevCon (including lodging and transportation). Paul Looney ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT: Win virtualization with Parallels?
Thanks, Sarah and Karen, for the great feedback. Testimony of real-world experience beats marketing materials every time. Phil Karen Hughes wrote: Phil, I'd echo what Sarah said - it kind of depends what you want to use Windows for. Parallels is good for most things and runs pretty much any version of Windows at close to native speed. It has some issues with USB support, but works for most things. The sharing of files with the Mac side is a little clunky, but does all that you are likely to need (no drag and drop support - one of the few things I miss about Virtual PC). Boot Camp will only run XP SP2, and it must be a full version, not an upgrade. Parallels won't work for anything that needs 3D support, since the graphic emulation is fairly basic - so games are definitely out. This is where Boot Camp comes into its own, but you do have to reboot your Mac in the process. It does seem as if my MacBook Pro runs the fans more under Boot Camp - I'm not sure if this is down to the drivers or whether the processor is working harder. I use Parallels with Windows XP Home and it works very well indeed for the few things that I need from Windows. At the price you can't go far wrong - but Apple may be working along similar lines for the next version of OS X (Leopard). If you've ever used Virtual PC, the two are very similar - except that Parallels is much, much faster. Karen On 25 Jun 2006, at 16:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:51:06 -0700 From: Phil Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: Win virtualization with Parallels? To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I noticed at Revcon that one or more presenters used Parallels (virtualization product) to show Windows stuff on an Intel Mac. Can anyone comment on how well Parallels works, or if there's a better way to go? I'm thinking of taking the plunge but wanted to 'consult my sources' first. Thanks - Phil Davis ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: libURLftpUploadFile insanity
Hi, You don't need to urlEncode the user name. If you get another error, e.g. invalid user name, you might try using + or % instead of @. Best, Mark -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Salery is the easiest way to set up your own web store: http:// www.salery.biz/salery.html Op 25-jun-2006, om 5:07 heeft stevex64 het volgende geschreven: This one should be simple and it's driving me insane! Here is the code: on mouseUp answer file Select a file to upload put [EMAIL PROTECTED] into userName put myPW into userPassword put ftp.mydomain.com into myServer put ftp://; URLEncode(userName) : userPassword @ myServer into myFTPURL libURLftpUploadFile it, myFTPURL put libUrlErrorData(myFTPURL) end mouseUp After I get the select file dialog box and select the file I want to upload, I always get this message, invalid URL: Usernames on my server have to be in [EMAIL PROTECTED] format. I have looked through these posts, the online docs, and the manuals I have laying on the table in front of me, all to no avail. Thanks for any help. Steve Ralston ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 33, Issue 37
Jeffrey Reynolds wrote: Phil and Lynn, sorry if i sounded suspicious in my post. I was having a hard time deciphering the article and the U3 site. when the marketing hype reaches a certain point above the technology the radar goes onto high gain. I agree more places that we can market rev products the better. i was more concerned that there might be some hidden gotchas hiding in the bushes. I think it's a benefit to everyone on this list that you ask such questions, Jeffrey. And I can be pretty excitable about new tech possibilities, so... thanks for the balance. Phil ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: rotating images...
Sure, Andre, just: set the angle of img 1 to degree Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software -Original Message- From: Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: rotating images... Date: Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:49 pm Size: 333 bytes To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Hi Folks, anyone here have found a way to rotate images in Rev? Cheers andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: rotating images...
So newbie of me! ;-) Thanks Ken On Jun 25, 2006, at 4:07 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure, Andre, just: set the angle of img 1 to degree Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software -Original Message- From: Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subj: rotating images... Date: Sun Jun 25, 2006 1:49 pm Size: 333 bytes To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Hi Folks, anyone here have found a way to rotate images in Rev? Cheers andre ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: U3 apps and rev
Lynn, you know and I know that it's never 'just a recompile' making mac apps work across platforms, especially the UI! It just irks me that an add-on product promoted heavily by Rev is offered in Windoze support but not Mac. The fact there is no set date for any Mac support, leads me to believe it will never happen. The presentation at Revcon did not convince me U3 cared a fig about Mac OSX. The lack of platform symmetry in any add-on endorsed by Rev is disturbing to me -- seems like a slippery slope. Why can't Mac developers have an opportunity to differentiate your product this way and make it visible to those who purchase and utilize features of U3? But first things first - as a software vendor, if you can differentiate your (windows only) version in such a way that it is suddenly attractive _and visible_ to a very, very large group and conforming to that standard is just a recompile, why not? One of the big challenges in selling into the Windows market is that while it is a huge market compared to the Mac, there's also a lot of potential competition to reach the narrow band of target customers on that platform. You have an opportunity to differentiate your product this way and make it visible to those who purchase and utlize features of U3. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks -- stephen barncard s a n f r a n c i s c o - - - - - - - - - - - - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: U3 apps and rev
Andre Garzia wrote: they could always hire us to build the mac side of U3. It's just an app that loads on mount, inspect it's own volume and make a nice UI. If, and only if, that Launcher app is a normal computer application, meaning, something that windows could load by double clicking and not some rom based assembler black magic, we could just create with Rev such launcher and offer to them to include in the U3 rom. U3 is a new application of a very old Windows-specific technology: the autorun.inf file. On any locked volume, Windows will look for an autorun.inf file and, if found, will launch whatever executable is specified in the file. A U3 drive is essentially a flash drive partitioned into two parts: one read-only with the autorun.inf file and the Launchpad app, and the other partition the user writes to. Windows sees the locked partition, finds the autorun.inf, opens Launchpad, and for anyone who's never seen a CD do this in Windows it looks like magic. :) The U3 folks set up their U3-compliant flash drives to use their own branded Launchpad app, but you can find a good many vendors online who can make custom partitioned flash drives for you, which means you can create your own U3-like experience but fully branded however you - or your client - wants, with whatever launcher app you want to auto-run -- but only on Windows: As others have noted when USB drives have come up here before (Aug 04, Jan 06, and maybe a few times in between), there are security risks with autorun.inf, which is why the full U3 experience is not available for OS X or Linux. Many years ago Apple experimented with a form of auto-run for QuickTime, and about 15 minutes after it was released it was used to spread viruses, so about 20 minutes after that Apple replaced it with a more secure version of QT and vowed never to do an auto-run again. Microsoft has an arguably more casual approach to security by design, and have evidenced this many other times when cutting back a feature would have increased security; so it is again with autorun, of which much has been written from a security standpoint but which Microsoft doesn't classify as a problem the way the other OS vendors do. For this reason, the central differentiation of the U3 customer experience -- the automatic launch of LaunchPad -- may never find its way into implementations for non-Microsoft operating systems. Stephen Barncard wrote: I think it's the 'hot plugging shutdown' feature that's special about what they do. I agree it's already possible to make 'portable apps' on any thumb drive without U3. That one's the only thing I've seen that requires firmware in U3, and should be relatively straightforward to make for all platforms. But I've been unable to figure out a practical use for it: since the app is in memory and the drive it might otherwise save to has been removed, what meaningful action can the application take? If the app merely warns the user that the device it was going to save to has been removed, how is that substantially different from simply doing good error-checking in your save routines? I look forward to learning how to apply that notification to practical ends. All that said, I think Andre is onto to something. Certainly there's great benefit to lending the Revolution technology to helping out the U3 initiative, and the cross-marketing benefits definitely make that worthwhile on all sides. But as Rev developers of course we needn't stop there, and can run our apps on any portable device, U3 or not. Many have been doing this for quite some time. Unlike so many other development systems which rely on an army of DLLs strewn all over the hard drive just to run, Rev has been a small self-contained executable for more than a decade, making it perfectly suited for portability. Thinking about this a couple months ago I came up with the notion of U4, an initiative to deploy truly open, custom-brandable launchers with a set of known directories to make it dirt simple to deploy even complex apps on ALL portable devices. It wouldn't have the auto-run benefit of U3, but that's Windows-specific and a potential security issue anyway. But it would have a simple, consistent user interface for all platforms, and would offer a simple set of data and program directories for developers. Andre, should we make a U4 group at Yahoo Groups to get this going? Or should we just get back to paying client work with proprietary custom installs? :) I'm deploying to flash drives either way, U3 and beyond, but if there's interest in establishing conventions for data storage directories on the drive I'm happy to contribute what I can. If the U3 folks are open-minded they may even be willing to endorse something as simple as parallel directory structures as the little brother of the U3 smart experience -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal
Re: U3 apps and rev
Richard, I am all for it. I think the idea of crafting our own launcher would be good because this way we would not depend on the good will of U3 group to include it anywhere. The launcher could be used from thumbdrives, network volumes, anything... I liked it. Cheers andre On Jun 25, 2006, at 5:35 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Thinking about this a couple months ago I came up with the notion of U4, an initiative to deploy truly open, custom-brandable launchers with a set of known directories to make it dirt simple to deploy even complex apps on ALL portable devices. It wouldn't have the auto-run benefit of U3, but that's Windows-specific and a potential security issue anyway. But it would have a simple, consistent user interface for all platforms, and would offer a simple set of data and program directories for developers. Andre, should we make a U4 group at Yahoo Groups to get this going? Or should we just get back to paying client work with proprietary custom installs? :) I'm deploying to flash drives either way, U3 and beyond, but if there's interest in establishing conventions for data storage directories on the drive I'm happy to contribute what I can. If the U3 folks are open-minded they may even be willing to endorse something as simple as parallel directory structures as the little brother of the U3 smart experience ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution CGI error
Sounds like a permissions problem. Are you logged in as sysop on your OS X box when you try this? On 6/24/06, callum brines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Just getting starting using Rev for CGIs on Mac OS X 10.4.6. I have followed Jacqueline Landman Gay's invaluable CGI tutorial but when I run a simple script Safari returns an internal Server error and in the console I get the following message: kCGErrorRangeCheck: Window Server communications from outside of session allowed for root and console user only. Stumped. Any help much appreciated. Callum ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Slightly OT : forums
Depending on the real need, a Wiki might work well. If so, the Wiki project Andre Garzia showed off at RevCon West 2006 in Monterey last week might be good enough or a great start. On 6/24/06, Bill Marriott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would be hard to rival the simplicity of using phpBB. Most cPanel-based hosting providers enable you to click a couple buttons and have the forum up and running in less than 5 minutes. Plus, phpBB has a deep feature set, dozens of plug-ins for extra features, and an active support community. Customizing them often means learning a little PHP though. There are many options besides phpBB. (Everyone has their favorite forum software.) It might be more fun/rewarding to build your own forum software using the Rev CGI though :) jbv wrote: One of clients (for whom I've already made a rather complex website based on Rev cgi) wants a tool to set up and administrate forums... Having little experience in that field, I was wondering if it's worth building something from scratch around Rev, or if it would simpler to install some existing solution (probably open source)... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- ~~ Dan Shafer, Information Product Consultant and Author http://www.shafermedia.com Get my book, Revolution: Software at the Speed of Thought From http://www.shafermediastore.com/tech_main.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Slightly OT : forums
wait and wonder... no kidding, I am building a site to share all my resources and the site will be powered by our own favorite xTalk... Andre On Jun 25, 2006, at 5:57 PM, Dan Shafer wrote: Depending on the real need, a Wiki might work well. If so, the Wiki project Andre Garzia showed off at RevCon West 2006 in Monterey last week might be good enough or a great start. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: U3 apps and rev
Richard Gaskin wrote: Andre Garzia wrote: [snip] A U3 drive is essentially a flash drive partitioned into two parts: one read-only with the autorun.inf file and the Launchpad app, and the other partition the user writes to. Windows sees the locked partition, finds the autorun.inf, opens Launchpad, and for anyone who's never seen a CD do this in Windows it looks like magic. :) And there's a fault with the logic of this technology, and that is, that all Windows installations allow the autorun functionality. A lot of Windows users turn that feature off because they get so tired of Windows going through all the BS when all they want is to grab some backup files off of a CD. In my mind, you don't need any association with U3 at all, you have everything you need right in Rev Studio or Enterprise. In fact, you have it better than U3 since you are cross platform, you can offer a portable app that is cross platform and not limited to Windows. In fact, if you wanted, any one of you could come up with the software needed to do exactly what U3 is doing with the partitioning and auto launching, provided you wanted to even bother with such a thing. But! If you need to make a push into the Windows market, then maybe U3 might be of use. Anyway, that's my 1/100th of a euro worth. -Garrett ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution Media Presentation Viewable on Web?
Greg Smith wrote: I've been intimidated by the full blown Revolution package and now feel a little more comfortable, especially in the area of the pocket book, since Revolution Media has been introduced. I'm mainly interested in using this product to produce educational training material that features a lot of slideshow material and captured QuickTime sessions with software demonstration. Of course, the more interactivity, the better. But, is deployment through the Runtime player the only method for viewing and distribution? Can a website equipped with a plug-in manage to demonstrate some of the interactive content that I intend to produce with Revolution Media? For Media, yes, you need to deploy on the Player. There is no browser plug-in, so the Player is pretty much your only option. This is, in fact, the main differentiation between Media and the other editions. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: U3 apps and rev
Garrett Hylltun wrote: And there's a fault with the logic of this technology, and that is, that all Windows installations allow the autorun functionality. A lot of Windows users turn that feature off because they get so tired of Windows going through all the BS when all they want is to grab some backup files off of a CD. In the Windows realm, .5% of users is still a lot. I guarantee that fewer people disable auto-run than, say, change their desktop. And woefully few people know how to do that! There is an OS/platform debate mingling in this discussion like a bit of curry in soup. I applaud the U3 move, as additional cross-marketing is a very good thing for Rev. I'd hate to see Rev adopt a lowest common denominator approach for features, otherwise we'd be out of a lot of cool things... for example, blending modes available only on Mac. Now, where's my Tablet PC support? ;) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
cancel ftp
Ok, with the help of some kind people here, I have my ftp client started and it even works sometimes. But now if I start an upload then say by changing something in my code I make the app stop working, when i get it running again my URLStatus says qeued or booked. In this situation, or any situation where a user would want to cancel the upload, how do i cancel it? Steve Ralston -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/cancel-ftp-t1847001.html#a5041445 Sent from the Revolution - User forum at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: U3 apps and rev
Phil, I too love the tech stuff and thats why the U3 had piqued my curiosity since i was buying a new flash drive the week before the newsletter came and had noticed the U3 flashdrives for the first time (they were a 25% premium for the same drive though) and i had gone through there web site and was tring to figure out the benefits of their system (there site is not too direct). i use to hate to rain on the tech parades at my old company, but it was always my rear on the line to design products that worked on a budget so always had to make sure the fanny didn't get singed! funny thing was it was always the marketing folks that got all giddy with the marketing speak, but it was the business stuff behind the market speak which usually sunk things. that and the want to add features like video compression to add more video to cds (at the time it was not larger size or faster videos, but just more time) w/o realizing what the cost of the added video would do to the budget when they were already screaming at the costs of the videos! just struck me curious that the first peep about U3 came via the newsletter and not from the list, but i guess it was under beta nda. seems the U3 revcon presentation was taken with a grain of salt also... cheers jeff On Jun 25, 2006, at 10:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's a benefit to everyone on this list that you ask such questions, Jeffrey. And I can be pretty excitable about new tech possibilities, so... thanks for the balance. Phil ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
keyboard shortcuts when altBrowser is on
Hi all, altBrowser seems to override any keyboard shortcuts you have unless you make it go out of focus. Is there a way to - for lack of a better term - override their override? I'd like to assign simple shortcuts to go backwards/forwards and shift the focus to the URL bar. Thanks. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: U3 apps and rev
Richard, thanks for this post, it was a real breath of fresh air to me. it seemed exactly what i thought was the case with U3, flash drives and rev and was a very direct and honest assessment/path to this kind of technology and the possibilities. I am glad you dont speak marketspeak, i'm tired of trying to learn new dialects and translate! cheers, jeff On Jun 25, 2006, at 10:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: U3 is a new application of a very old Windows-specific technology: the autorun.inf file. On any locked volume, Windows will look for an autorun.inf file and, if found, will launch whatever executable is specified in the file. A U3 drive is essentially a flash drive partitioned into two parts: one read-only with the autorun.inf file and the Launchpad app, and the other partition the user writes to. Windows sees the locked partition, finds the autorun.inf, opens Launchpad, and for anyone who's never seen a CD do this in Windows it looks like magic. :) snip... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: U3 apps and rev
Hi Stephen, It just irks me that an add-on product promoted heavily by Rev is offered in Windoze support but not Mac. The fact there is no set date for any Mac support, leads me to believe it will never happen. The presentation at Revcon did not convince me U3 cared a fig about Mac OSX. U3 has a platform to promote and Windows totally dominates the desktop market, so it makes sense to make the investment there first. They havent said anything about not supporting Linux and the Mac in the future and they havent indicated a lack of willingness to do so in the future. The lack of platform symmetry in any add-on endorsed by Rev is disturbing to me -- seems like a slippery slope. I'm not following you here - add-on's as in IDE add-on's? Why can't Mac developers have an opportunity to differentiate your product this way and make it visible to those who purchase and utilize features of U3? They might - but the Mac platform for these devices is pretty small at this point. If they secure a strong position in the Windows market, it makes it a lot easier to port to Linux and Mac. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: U3 apps and rev
For what it's worth, a U3 rep told me they have Mac and Linux on their 2007 roadmap. On 6/26/06, Lynn Fredricks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Stephen, It just irks me that an add-on product promoted heavily by Rev is offered in Windoze support but not Mac. The fact there is no set date for any Mac support, leads me to believe it will never happen. The presentation at Revcon did not convince me U3 cared a fig about Mac OSX. U3 has a platform to promote and Windows totally dominates the desktop market, so it makes sense to make the investment there first. They havent said anything about not supporting Linux and the Mac in the future and they havent indicated a lack of willingness to do so in the future. The lack of platform symmetry in any add-on endorsed by Rev is disturbing to me -- seems like a slippery slope. I'm not following you here - add-on's as in IDE add-on's? Why can't Mac developers have an opportunity to differentiate your product this way and make it visible to those who purchase and utilize features of U3? They might - but the Mac platform for these devices is pretty small at this point. If they secure a strong position in the Windows market, it makes it a lot easier to port to Linux and Mac. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Worldwide Business Operations Runtime Revolution, Ltd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: use-revolution Digest, Vol 33, Issue 37
Phil- Sunday, June 25, 2006, 5:12:57 PM, you wrote: I think it's a benefit to everyone on this list that you ask such Seconded. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: tm|tools Reminder
I got mine... Yippee! Now I can make my own nice-looking but oddly-shaped gizmos to use in demonstrating the windowShape property to my students w/o brazenly stealing Scott's! Judy On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, Camm29 wrote: At long last BEAUTIFUL GAUGES Great ! Great ! Great ! Regards - Original Message - From: Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: How to use Revolution use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 9:42 PM Subject: tm|tools Reminder ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: rotating images...
Andre, I'm no Scott Rossi, but, in my case, the answer is not well. (that is, the rotate or whatever command thingy produces nasty-looking things for me; maybe I'm just stupid, though). Judy On Sun, 25 Jun 2006, Andre Garzia wrote: Hi Folks, anyone here have found a way to rotate images in Rev? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: rotating images...
Recently, Judy Perry wrote: anyone here have found a way to rotate images in Rev? I'm no Scott Rossi, but, in my case, the answer is not well. You don't have to be me to see that the results of rotating an image are less than stellar. How about it Run-Rev guys? Since things have been overhauled for 2.7, does this mean rotating images can finally get fixed? Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
