Printing in Windows

2006-08-22 Thread Sarah Reichelt

How is printing in Windows supposed to work? In Mac, I go to Page
setup and choose the paper layout I want. Then when I print, I get
another dialog allowing me to choose copies, page ranges, quality etc.
Rev ignores the page ranges :-( but apart from that, printing works as
I would expect.

With Windows, when I use answer printer which I do when Page setup
is chosen from the menu, I get a dialog allowing me to choose the
printer and it's settings, but it also has a Print button. rather to
my surprise, this seems to work, even though I haven't scripted for it
at all. However choosing Print from the menu gives me no dialog at
all, it just prints to the default printer, no matter what I chose in
Page setup.

So what do Windows users expect? Is this correct behaviour? Or should
I forget Page setup for Windows and just use the answer printer
dialog for printing in a single step?

Please help a confused Mac person...

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: RunRev logos

2006-08-22 Thread Garrett Hylltun


On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote:

[snip]


The license still 'encourages' us to place these
logos.


U, without trying to start something here. You mean that  
we're suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in our  
apps?


-Garrett

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Re: RunRev logos

2006-08-22 Thread Phil Jimmieson

On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote:

[snip]


The license still 'encourages' us to place these
logos.


U, without trying to start something here. You mean that 
we're suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in our 
apps?


and some of the logos seem very messed up (the small pct, png and 
gif) - it looks like the image has been scaled to make it smaller 
than the full size version, but there's a white cutout that's still 
the full size and the image is being drawn onto that.


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Re: RunRev logos

2006-08-22 Thread Bill Marriott
Yes, I wish they had just given us a decent .eps

The license still 'encourages' us to place these
logos.

U, without trying to start something here. You mean that we're 
suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in our apps?

 and some of the logos seem very messed up (the small pct, png and gif) - 
 it looks like the image has been scaled to make it smaller than the full 
 size version, but there's a white cutout that's still the full size and 
 the image is being drawn onto that. 



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Re: RunRev logos

2006-08-22 Thread Klaus Major

Hi Bill,


Yes, I wish they had just given us a decent .eps


you'll find some EPS files in that folder, too 8-)


The license still 'encourages' us to place these
logos.
U, without trying to start something here. You mean that  
we're

suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in our apps?
and some of the logos seem very messed up (the small pct, png and  
gif) -
it looks like the image has been scaled to make it smaller than  
the full
size version, but there's a white cutout that's still the full  
size and

the image is being drawn onto that.


Regards

Klaus Major
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.major-k.de

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From CGI to MySQL database

2006-08-22 Thread paolo mazza
Some months ago I tryed to read/write from a CGI -revolution to a MySQL
database in the web server.
For some reasons it did not work and I gave up.
Now I reconsidering this opportunity... but i wonder if is possible.. 
Any of you have never experienced this?
Where am I supposed to  place the database drivers? 
Ciao

Paolo Mazza

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Re: From CGI to MySQL database

2006-08-22 Thread jbv


paolo,

I put it in the same directory as Rev cgi :

 put /usr/local/bin/ into path
 revSetDatabaseDriverPath path

Best,
JB

 Some months ago I tryed to read/write from a CGI -revolution to a MySQL
 database in the web server.
 For some reasons it did not work and I gave up.
 Now I reconsidering this opportunity... but i wonder if is possible..
 Any of you have never experienced this?
 Where am I supposed to  place the database drivers?
 Ciao

 Paolo Mazza


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Re: RunRev logos

2006-08-22 Thread Martin Baxter

Garrett Hylltun wrote:


On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote:

[snip]


The license still 'encourages' us to place these
logos.


U, without trying to start something here. You mean that we're 
suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in our apps?


-Garrett


In the license agreement, there is a Revolution copyright statement that 
you must include along with your own copyright statements. Including the 
rev logo is optional, but encouraged.


Martin Baxter
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Re: Connecting 2 stand alone programs.

2006-08-22 Thread Rob Cozens

Alvaro, Yves, Jim, et al:


  You can only share information with an external .txt file between 2 apps
  or if you are sure there is no interference, with the clipboard data

You cold try the shell() commands as another option, or you could use UDP or
TCP, which means the apps talk (send message packets) directly to each
other.


If you're simply trying to pass data to app 2 from app 1 when app 1 
starts app 2 (as opposed to ongoing interprocess communications), 
look at the $ keyword in Rev Dictionary.

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Re: text into a tabstopped field

2006-08-22 Thread Rob Cozens

Robert, Richard, Mark, et al:


  Seriously though, this should be corrected. I am reminded that in
  Foxpro a plus + can add two numbers AND concatenate 2 strings.

Try if x is a number then... Disambiguation then becomes a simple
matter of if both x and y are numbers then add them, otherwise
concatenate them.


Perhaps Foxpro has stronger variable typing than xTalk.

123 and 456 are strings AND numbers in Revolution; so would 
Foxpro syntax like

123 + 456
resolve to 579 or 123456?
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MySQL problem...

2006-08-22 Thread Jean-Pierre Soto

hello,

I have a some problem with MySQL ,

this line work fine :

revExecuteSQL IDdata,insert into table1 values (5,'new word')

but this one doesn't work , why ?

revExecuteSQL IDdata,insert into table1 values (:1,:2),5,new  
word



 so i can't use c'est beau l'amour as new word because there is  
confusion between quote and apostrophe ...


	revExecuteSQL IDdata,insert into table1 values (5,'c'est beau  
l'amour') Sig...

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Re: MySQL problem...

2006-08-22 Thread jbv


Jean-Pierre,

have tou tried putting a backslash before the apostrophe :

revExecuteSQL IDdata,insert into table1 values (5,'c\'est beau l\'amour')

Jb


 hello,

 I have a some problem with MySQL ,

 this line work fine :

  revExecuteSQL IDdata,insert into table1 values (5,'new word')

 but this one doesn't work , why ?

  revExecuteSQL IDdata,insert into table1 values (:1,:2),5,new
 word

   so i can't use c'est beau l'amour as new word because there is
 confusion between quote and apostrophe ...

 revExecuteSQL IDdata,insert into table1 values (5,'c'est beau
 l'amour') Sig...
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MySQL problem(2) ...

2006-08-22 Thread Jean-Pierre Soto

Sorry ... I have too big finger ...

I have another problem ...

I can access to any data in the database but when I want to see  
complete record one by one, I have just FIRST,PREVIOUS,NEXT and LAST  
with built-in manager...


How can I jump to record 100 in one step, see it, and go to the next  
record etc...


Thanks ...
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Re: MySQL problem(2) ...

2006-08-22 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Jean-Pierre Soto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Sorry ... I have too big finger ...
 
 I have another problem ...
 
 I can access to any data in the database but when I
 want to see  
 complete record one by one, I have just
 FIRST,PREVIOUS,NEXT and LAST  
 with built-in manager...
 
 How can I jump to record 100 in one step, see it,
 and go to the next  
 record etc...
 
 Thanks ...
 

Hi Jean-Pierre,

If you're using the Automated queries and database
linked controls, you can use the undocumented command
'revGoToRecordOfQuery'.

If your query is named 'foobar' then use:
##
on mouseUp
  revGoToRecordOfQuery foobar,100
end mouseUp
##

This will automatically update all the controls linked
to that query.

If you're using revdb library calls , you'll just have
to iterate over the revdb cursor with 'revdb_movenext'
until you get there:
##
on mouseUp
  global gCursorID
  local tCurrentRec
  -- determine where we are in the cursor
  put revdb_currentrecord(gCursorID) into tCurrentRec
  if tCurrentRec  100 then
repeat 100 - tCurrentRec times
  get revdb_movenext(gCursorID)
end repeat
  else
repeat tCurrentRec - 100 times
  get revdb_moveprev(gCursorID)
end repeat
  end if
  -- now that we're at the right record, do something
  -- ...
end mouseUp
##

Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.

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Re: MySQL problem...

2006-08-22 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Jean-Pierre Soto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 hello,
 
 I have a some problem with MySQL ,
 
 this line work fine :
 
  revExecuteSQL IDdata,insert into table1 values
 (5,'new word')
 
 but this one doesn't work , why ?
 
  revExecuteSQL IDdata,insert into table1 values
 (:1,:2),5,new  
 word
 
 
   so i can't use c'est beau l'amour as new word
 because there is  
 confusion between quote and apostrophe ...
 
   revExecuteSQL IDdata,insert into table1 values
 (5,'c'est beau  
 l'amour') Sig...
 

Hi Jean-Pierre,

When you're using the data binding option of the revdb
library calls, you need to use variable names, not
their content:
##
on mouseUp
  global gConnectionID
  local tQuery, tFirstValue,tSecondValue
  put INSERT INTO table1 VALUES(:1,:2) into tQuery
  put 5 into tFirstValue
  put c'est beau l'amour into tSecondValue
  get
revdb_execute(gConnectionID,tQuery,tFirstValue,tSecondValue)
end mouseUp
##

Of course, you can always escape the apostrophe in the
query by using a backslash, as JBV suggested.

Hope this helped,

Jan Schenkel.

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Re: Printing in Windows

2006-08-22 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How is printing in Windows supposed to work? In Mac,
 I go to Page
 setup and choose the paper layout I want. Then when
 I print, I get
 another dialog allowing me to choose copies, page
 ranges, quality etc.
 Rev ignores the page ranges :-( but apart from that,
 printing works as
 I would expect.
 
 With Windows, when I use answer printer which I do
 when Page setup
 is chosen from the menu, I get a dialog allowing me
 to choose the
 printer and it's settings, but it also has a Print
 button. rather to
 my surprise, this seems to work, even though I
 haven't scripted for it
 at all. However choosing Print from the menu gives
 me no dialog at
 all, it just prints to the default printer, no
 matter what I chose in
 Page setup.
 
 So what do Windows users expect? Is this correct
 behaviour? Or should
 I forget Page setup for Windows and just use the
 answer printer
 dialog for printing in a single step?
 
 Please help a confused Mac person...
 
 Cheers,
 Sarah
 

Hi Sarah,

Printing on Windows is a tad confusing in Revolution.
The 'answer printer' command displays the Page Setup
dialog box on MacOS, but on Windows it looks like the
place to print from.
And the other fun thing is that you can't actually
read and store the page setup data, so you have to ask
the user every time.
On Windows, users either never get the printer
selection screen, or they get it every time.

Usually, my printing code looks something like this:
##
on mouseUp
  answer printer
  if the result is Cancel then exit mouseUp
  -- some preparation code
  -- ...
  -- about to start printing
  -- Note: won't display a dialog box on Win or Unix
  open printing with dialog as sheet
  if the result is not Cancel then
print this card
close printing
  end if
  -- some cleanup code
  -- ...
end mouseUp
##

And then the fun starts when 'formatForPrinting' gets
added to the mix...

Hope this helped,

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Touchscreen interface

2006-08-22 Thread Laurent Ostiz

Hi !

Does anybody have some experience he can share using a touchscreen  
with Revolution and a Macintosh ? What model of Mac and which  
touchscreen technology and which manufacturer ?

Thanks

Laurent
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Rev 2.7.3 and Internet

2006-08-22 Thread Yves COPPE

Hi list,


On mac OSX on a MacIntel MacBook

Mac OSX 10.4.7
Rev 2.7.3 Enterprise version

I have a stack which have to take info from internet

the script is :

  put URL (http://...;) into tData

the standalone build on the MacBook :
 - for PPC only : runs Ok (on PPC and MacIntel)
 - U.B. : runs OK
 - Windows version : runs OK on windows PC
 - for macIntel only : tdata is empty

Don't understand what happens ...

Someone has any idea ?


Bien amicalement
Yves COPPE
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FTP with SSL/TLS

2006-08-22 Thread William de Smet

Hi there,

I just thought to make a small easy FTP app so the teachers on the
school I work (two locations in two different cities) could FTP
documents to the other location.
The FTP however needs SSL/TLS and I don't know how to do that!

I know there are some free FTP apps out there which do SSL/TLS but I
want simple drag and drop and nothing more.

The documentation says:
open socket command open [datagram] socket [to] host[:port[|ID]] [with
message callbackMessage] open secure socket [to] host[:port[|ID]]
[with message callbackMessage] [with|without verification] [using
certificate certificate and key key]

I don't know how to use it an d where to put it!
Is this easy to do with RunRev? Are there any examples?

I need to use this:
IP 80.127.43.153
Socket 21|6932

Thanks,

William de Smet
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Re: RunRev logos

2006-08-22 Thread Garrett Hylltun


On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:30 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:


Garrett Hylltun wrote:

On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote:
[snip]

The license still 'encourages' us to place these
logos.
U, without trying to start something here. You mean that  
we're suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in  
our apps?

-Garrett


In the license agreement, there is a Revolution copyright statement  
that you must include along with your own copyright statements.  
Including the rev logo is optional, but encouraged.


Ok...  Well that just put the nail in the coffin for me and Rev.   
I didn't pay all this damn money so I could put their copyright  
statement along with mine on anything I do.  If this was a free  
version I was using then I could see doing something like that, even  
putting their logo all over it, but not after having to pay so much  
money, and continue to pay so much money if I want updates or upgrade/ 
updates, or whatever they want to call them.


It's buggy, too expensive, price structure that's intended to suck  
the blood of it's users, introducing new features, err, bugs in  
updates instead of focusing on smashing as many bugs as possible  
already in Rev On and on and on the list goes why Rev is such a  
major disappointment.


I feel like I've been totally ripped off here.  The rest of you can  
continue to keep your blinders on and praise it all you want, but for  
me, I'm out of here!


-Garrett

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Re: RunRev logos

2006-08-22 Thread Marian Petrides

Garrett

This fairly standard verbiage and should be no big deal.  If you pay  
attention to the software you use daily, I bet you'll find a number  
of programs that include a statement something like this:  Portions  
copyright(c)   ...some other guy's software company  I can't  
recall offhand where I've seen it before, but I know I have.  In  
fact, I'm pretty sure I ended up having to give credit to Apple for  
something or another when I published my software.


Marian


On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:44 PM, Garrett Hylltun wrote:



On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:30 AM, Martin Baxter wrote:


Garrett Hylltun wrote:

On Aug 21, 2006, at 8:30 PM, Jan Schenkel wrote:
[snip]

The license still 'encourages' us to place these
logos.
U, without trying to start something here. You mean that  
we're suppose to be putting a logo or some credit to Runtime in  
our apps?

-Garrett


In the license agreement, there is a Revolution copyright  
statement that you must include along with your own copyright  
statements. Including the rev logo is optional, but encouraged.


Ok...  Well that just put the nail in the coffin for me and  
Rev.  I didn't pay all this damn money so I could put their  
copyright statement along with mine on anything I do.  If this was  
a free version I was using then I could see doing something like  
that, even putting their logo all over it, but not after having to  
pay so much money, and continue to pay so much money if I want  
updates or upgrade/updates, or whatever they want to call them.


It's buggy, too expensive, price structure that's intended to suck  
the blood of it's users, introducing new features, err, bugs in  
updates instead of focusing on smashing as many bugs as possible  
already in Rev On and on and on the list goes why Rev is such a  
major disappointment.


I feel like I've been totally ripped off here.  The rest of you can  
continue to keep your blinders on and praise it all you want, but  
for me, I'm out of here!


-Garrett

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Re: MySQL problem(2) ...

2006-08-22 Thread Mark Wieder
Jan-

Tuesday, August 22, 2006, 11:10:33 AM, you wrote:

 If you're using the Automated queries and database
 linked controls, you can use the undocumented command
 'revGoToRecordOfQuery'.

I hate all these undocumented db commands. You wouldn't happen to have
a list of the undocumented ones around, would you? Or would that be
considered documenting them?

-- 
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Re: MySQL problem(2) ...

2006-08-22 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Jan-
 
 Tuesday, August 22, 2006, 11:10:33 AM, you wrote:
 
  If you're using the Automated queries and database
  linked controls, you can use the undocumented
 command
  'revGoToRecordOfQuery'.
 
 I hate all these undocumented db commands. You
 wouldn't happen to have
 a list of the undocumented ones around, would you?
 Or would that be
 considered documenting them?
 

Heh, they're all there for your perusing, in the
'revDatabase' frontscript. Just open the Message Box,
go to the 'Front Scripts' tab, tick the 'Show
Revolution UI Front Scripts' checkbox, and doubleclick
the line 'revDatabase' in the list that appears.

Most of them have a short explanation of what they do.
Unfortunately, the fact that they're undocumented
means they can change at any given time. On the plus
side, this means they can rip it out and improve it at
some point in the future, maybe even adding
engine-level data bindings?

Jan Schenkel.

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Re: FTP with SSL/TLS

2006-08-22 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- William de Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 I just thought to make a small easy FTP app so the
 teachers on the
 school I work (two locations in two different
 cities) could FTP
 documents to the other location.
 The FTP however needs SSL/TLS and I don't know how
 to do that!
 
 I know there are some free FTP apps out there which
 do SSL/TLS but I
 want simple drag and drop and nothing more.
 
 The documentation says:
 open socket command open [datagram] socket [to]
 host[:port[|ID]] [with
 message callbackMessage] open secure socket [to]
 host[:port[|ID]]
 [with message callbackMessage] [with|without
 verification] [using
 certificate certificate and key key]
 
 I don't know how to use it an d where to put it!
 Is this easy to do with RunRev? Are there any
 examples?
 
 I need to use this:
 IP 80.127.43.153
 Socket 21|6932
 
 Thanks,
 
 William de Smet
 

Hi William,

The SFTP protocol is a different protocol from FTP -
it's not just a matter of opening a secure socket
connection.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_file_transfer_protocol

While this might be an interesting project if you want
to learn more about socket communication, it might be
better to file a feature request in Bugzilla, so
LibURL guru Dave Cragg can build it for you ;-)

Jan Schenkel.

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Re: RunRev logos

2006-08-22 Thread Richard Gaskin

Garrett wrote:

In the license agreement, there is a Revolution copyright statement  
that you must include along with your own copyright statements.  
Including the rev logo is optional, but encouraged.


Ok...  Well that just put the nail in the coffin for me and Rev.   
I didn't pay all this damn money so I could put their copyright  
statement along with mine on anything I do.  If this was a free  
version I was using then I could see doing something like that, even  
putting their logo all over it, but not after having to pay so much  
money, and continue to pay so much money if I want updates or upgrade/ 
updates, or whatever they want to call them.


Most companies charge for upgrades, and I haven't seen a software 
package yet that doesn't have bugs.  The trick of course is to find the 
right balance between bugs and marketability.  I don't have the stats on 
how Rev measures up against other apps for bugs/KLOC, but for myself and 
most of the folks here the balance is in their favor relative to the 
productivity it allows me to deliver to my clients.


Search for good enough software for some good reading on the topic; 
there are some who argue against shipping with any known bugs, and 
indeed I try to get my own stuff as close to that as practical, but in 
general the Good Enough philosophy helps apps ship and delivers more 
value to customers more quickly than attempting perfection.


As for the copyright notice, I think you'll find that with just about 
any libraries, components, frameworks, or anything else.  Modern 
software is just too complex to write without using at least a framework 
written by someone else, and that someone usually wants appropriate 
copyright protection for their contribution.


Going back as far as MacApp Apple required a notice, THINK C required 
one, Code Warrior required one, and Rev requires one.  It's pretty 
customary, unless you're writing everything 100% from scratch.


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Re: RunRev logos

2006-08-22 Thread Mark Smith
Do you really mean to say that since Rev apparently doesn't provide  
the cost/benefit that you want, any and all of 'us' are wearing  
'blinders' if we have had a different experience? That is fairly  
insulting.


Still, best of luck,

Mark


On 22 Aug 2006, at 20:44, Garrett Hylltun wrote:

The rest of you can continue to keep your blinders on and praise it  
all you want, but for me, I'm out of here!


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Re: FTP with SSL/TLS

2006-08-22 Thread Dave Cragg


On 22 Aug 2006, at 21:24, Jan Schenkel wrote:


--- William de Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi there,

I just thought to make a small easy FTP app so the
teachers on the
school I work (two locations in two different
cities) could FTP
documents to the other location.
The FTP however needs SSL/TLS and I don't know how
to do that!


Hi William,

The SFTP protocol is a different protocol from FTP -
it's not just a matter of opening a secure socket
connection.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSH_file_transfer_protocol

While this might be an interesting project if you want
to learn more about socket communication, it might be
better to file a feature request in Bugzilla, so
LibURL guru Dave Cragg can build it for you ;-)


FTP over SSL/TLS is different from SFTP (FTP over SSH), I believe.  
It's a while since I looked at this, but I think FTP over SSL/TLS  
would probably be easier to implement. However, I think the engine  
still needs a way to negotiate a secure connection (secure  
handshake??) over an existing non-secure connection before this could  
be implemented in libUrl. On the other hand, SFTP seems to be more  
widely supported by servers.


Does anyone know if curl can be used for this?

Cheers
Dave
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Re: RunRev logos

2006-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay

Garrett Hylltun wrote:


I 
didn't pay all this damn money so I could put their copyright statement 
along with mine on anything I do.


It's pretty much boilerplate standard. Look in any About box or credits 
listing for almost any product and you'll see attributions for other 
development systems. I recall Portions copyright by Think C on almost 
every program I ran on OS 9. The attribution does not have to be 
prominent, nor do you need to use the logo, nor do you need to make a 
big deal out of it. I generally put a tiny line of type at the bottom of 
a credits listing. That's all that's needed. And when it comes right 
down to it, I doubt very much that RR will prosecute you if you happen 
to omit it. This is really a minor thing to get upset about.


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Re: FTP with SSL/TLS

2006-08-22 Thread Mark Smith


On 22 Aug 2006, at 21:41, Dave Cragg wrote:




FTP over SSL/TLS is different from SFTP (FTP over SSH), I believe.  
It's a while since I looked at this, but I think FTP over SSL/TLS  
would probably be easier to implement. However, I think the engine  
still needs a way to negotiate a secure connection (secure  
handshake??) over an existing non-secure connection before this  
could be implemented in libUrl. On the other hand, SFTP seems to be  
more widely supported by servers.


Does anyone know if curl can be used for this?

Cheers
Dave
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From the curl manual:

FTPS

   It is just like for FTP, but you may also want to specify and use
   SSL-specific options for certificates etc.


So I guess it can.

Best,

Mark
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Re: Not sure what this thread was...

2006-08-22 Thread Robert Sneidar

Seriously though, this should be corrected. I am reminded that in
Foxpro a plus + can add two numbers AND concatenate 2 strings.



Try if x is a number then... Disambiguation then becomes a simple
matter of if both x and y are numbers then add them, otherwise
concatenate them.



Perhaps Foxpro has stronger variable typing than xTalk.

123 and 456 are strings AND numbers in Revolution; so would
Foxpro syntax like
123 + 456
resolve to 579 or 123456?
--  


Rob Cozens
CCW, Serendipity Software Company



It would resolve to 123456 because it would evaluate the operands  
first and determine that they were strings. If you tried:


123 + 456 you would get a type mismatch error.

But as I said in another post, I would only be able to evaluate  
variables at runtime. Literals are easy. Variables are only known at  
runtime, in which case I am in Foxpro, not Revolution and so would  
not be running my code converter.


Bob Sneidar
IT Manager
Logos Management
Calvary Chapel CM



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Re: FTP with SSL/TLS

2006-08-22 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Dave Cragg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [snipping away information about SFTP]
 
 Does anyone know if curl can be used for this?
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 

Weren't curl users traitors? ;o)

Cheers,

Jan.

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Re: FTP with SSL/TLS

2006-08-22 Thread Jan Schenkel
--- Jan Schenkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 --- Dave Cragg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  [snipping away information about SFTP]
  
  Does anyone know if curl can be used for this?
  
  Cheers
  Dave
  
 
 Weren't curl users traitors? ;o)
 
 Cheers,
 
 Jan.

For those of you who just tuned in, I was referring to
http://mail.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2006-August/086131.html

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RE: RunRev logos

2006-08-22 Thread Lynn Fredricks
If there is a specific set of size/formats that everyone wants, I can have
these put together in a separate download.

Best regards,


Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd


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Re: RunRev logos

2006-08-22 Thread Mark Schonewille

Lynn,

It would be useful if a high-resolution version, a small 72dpi  
version, and a EPS version of the RunRev logo in the current style  
were always available on the RunRev web site, together with high-res  
pictures of the RunRev staff ;-)


Best,

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Op 22-aug-2006, om 23:46 heeft Lynn Fredricks het volgende geschreven:

If there is a specific set of size/formats that everyone wants, I  
can have

these put together in a separate download.

Best regards,


Lynn Fredricks
Worldwide Business Operations
Runtime Revolution, Ltd


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Re: FTP with SSL/TLS

2006-08-22 Thread Dave Cragg


On 22 Aug 2006, at 22:20, Jan Schenkel wrote:


--- Dave Cragg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


[snipping away information about SFTP]

Does anyone know if curl can be used for this?

Cheers
Dave



Weren't curl users traitors? ;o)


That was last week. :-)

Cheers
Dave
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RE- My Dream App.

2006-08-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yesterday Chipp Walters wrote:
Mark,
Good link. Interesting idea. Double negative withstanding, I'm
not sure if they're not the latest Peter Minuit, trading a few Apple trinkets 
for the next 'Killer App'. http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_156.html

That said, the winner does get 15%, which is fine. But my guess
is the real value is in all the apps voted on which _DON'T_ win.
I wonder ifit's even possible to protect that sort of intellectual property?
Chipp
-


Any proud owner of a Revolution licence with a bright idea will be trying to 
develop it alone, not farming it out to a group of developers at the cost of 
85% of eventual sales profit.

I thought the same as Chipp, (who preceded me), its the eliminated projects 
that are going to be the organizer's pay off!
This is known in Italy as Putting out mirrors for nightingales ---  a 
hunter's decoy trick for shooting down attracted birds. Good try though.

From what I've read, if you don't know how to write your application just tell 
the good people here what you want to do and they will write it for you! (^_^)

The best to all.
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Re: RunRev logos

2006-08-22 Thread Richard Gaskin

Mark Schonewille wrote:

It would be useful if a high-resolution version, a small 72dpi  
version, and a EPS version of the RunRev logo in the current style  
were always available on the RunRev web site, together with high-res  
pictures of the RunRev staff ;-)


In kilts.

:)

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Re: FTP with SSL/TLS

2006-08-22 Thread Dar Scott


On Aug 22, 2006, at 2:41 PM, Dave Cragg wrote:

FTP over SSL/TLS is different from SFTP (FTP over SSH), I believe.  
It's a while since I looked at this, but I think FTP over SSL/TLS  
would probably be easier to implement. However, I think the engine  
still needs a way to negotiate a secure connection (secure  
handshake??) over an existing non-secure connection before this  
could be implemented in libUrl. On the other hand, SFTP seems to be  
more widely supported by servers.


Yes, FTPS (FTP over SSL/TLS) should be easier for libUrl, at least if  
you assume implicit FTPS where you assume the connection is secure  
from the start and no command is needed to turn it on.


Some rambling on the subject...

I have looked at SSH several times to be used as part of a Rev  
standalone and each time the biggest technical problem was getting  
the passphrase to the right place at the right time with minimum  
abrasion of the user.  This was especially a problem on OS X.  The  
other big technical problem was setting up painless installation.  It  
can be done; it is just a bunch of work.


However, there is a way to use SSH with FTP on systems that allow  
it.  One who is willing to invest a little learning can create an  
automatic tunnel from the client system to the server.  This can make  
a local port look just like the FTP port on the server.  Instead of  
connecting to the server, you connect to the local port.  SSH is  
listening on that and will make a connection to the server asking it  
to make an inside connection to the FTP port.  Some people do this  
for their POP accounts.  This is not SFTP and this is not FTPS.  I  
don't know what to call it.


Dar Scott


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QT Player controls frozen in Deamcard 2.7.2

2006-08-22 Thread Andrew Nelson
I upgraded to DreamCard 2.7.2 only to discover that all my movie  
players no longer work! The controller is visible etc. but it won't  
play (or drag) by clicking the button or with a scripted command. Is  
there something buggy between QT version 7.1.2 and Dreamcard 2.7.2?  
Help, I am a classroom music teacher that depends on QuickTime to  
play my soundtracks  midi files for the students to sing and play  
instruments with.
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Fixing Mac OS X standalones

2006-08-22 Thread Sarah Reichelt

Hi All,

When you build a standalone for Mac OS X, at the moment (Rev 2.7.x)
the required display plugins are not copied over, so the app looks
like it was built for OS 9. Also, if you have specified a custom icon,
it does not get displayed.

Here is a script that fixes all that. It is set to work only when
building on OS X systems, I don't know if it is needed on others. Just
put this in the stack script of your mainStack and it will happen
auto-magically after the standalne has been created.

HTH,
Sarah



-- after a standalone is created, this is called
-- pFolder is the name of the folder containing the standalone's folder
--
-- this routine copies over the missing display plugins
-- and touches the app tho make the icon appear
--
on standaloneSaved pFolder
   -- only works when building on Mac OS X
   if the platform  MacOS then exit standaloneSaved
   set the itemdel to .
   if item 1 of the systemversion = 10 then exit standaloneSaved

   -- check if building any Mac OS X version
   put the cRevStandaloneSettings[MacOSX] of the topstack into tMacUB
   put the cRevStandaloneSettings[MacOSX PowerPC-32] of the
topstack into tMacPPC
   put the cRevStandaloneSettings[MacOSX x86-32] of the topstack
into tMacIntel
   if tMacUB = false and tMacPPC = false and tMacIntel = false then
exit standaloneSaved

   -- get the full name of the standalone folder
   put the cRevStandaloneSettings[name] of the topstack into tName
   put pFolder  tName  / into tAppFolder

   -- if building multiples, there will be a Mac OS X folder,
otherwise, just .app
   if there is a folder (tAppFolder  MacOSX) then
   put MacOSX/ after tAppFolder
   end if

   -- get out if can't find the new app
   if there is not a folder (tAppFolder  tName  .app) then exit
standaloneSaved

   -- get the new app's plugins folder so the display plugins can be
copied across
   put tAppFolder  tName  .app  /Contents/PlugIns/ into tAppPlugins

   -- get the path to the Rev app's plugins folder to find the originals
   put the effective filename of stack Home into tRevPath
   set the itemdel to /
   delete item -2 to -1 of tRevPath
   put /Revolution.app/Contents/PlugIns/ after tRevPath

   -- list the plugins
   put the defaultfolder into tOldDefault
   set the defaultfolder to tRevPath
   put the folders into tPlugins
   filter tPlugins with *.bundle

   -- copy them to the new app
   -- bundles need revCopyFolder despite what the docs say
   -- revCopyFolder needs the full path for source  destination
   repeat for each line i in tPlugins
   put tRevPath  i into tSource
   revCopyFolder tSource, tAppPlugins
   end repeat

   -- 'touch' new app to make it's icon appear
   put touch '  tAppFolder  tName  .app' into tCmd
   get shell(tCmd)

   -- reset default folder
   set the defaultfolder to tOldDefault
end standaloneSaved
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Re: Fixing Mac OS X standalones

2006-08-22 Thread Pamela Crossley
Thank you Sarah! You have fixed some of the nagging little issues  
that were plaguing me.


On Aug 22, 2006, at 10:01 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:


Hi All,

When you build a standalone for Mac OS X, at the moment (Rev 2.7.x)
the required display plugins are not copied over, so the app looks
like it was built for OS 9. Also, if you have specified a custom icon,
it does not get displayed.

Here is a script that fixes all that. It is set to work only when
building on OS X systems, I don't know if it is needed on others. Just
put this in the stack script of your mainStack and it will happen
auto-magically after the standalne has been created.

HTH,
Sarah



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Re: Fixing Mac OS X standalones

2006-08-22 Thread Sarah Reichelt

When you build a standalone for Mac OS X, at the moment (Rev 2.7.x)
the required display plugins are not copied over, so the app looks
like it was built for OS 9. Also, if you have specified a custom icon,
it does not get displayed.

Here is a script that fixes all that. It is set to work only when
building on OS X systems, I don't know if it is needed on others. Just
put this in the stack script of your mainStack and it will happen
auto-magically after the standalne has been created.



Sorry all, some last minutes changes made it stop working :-(
Here is the correct version.

Cheers,
Sarah



-- after a standalone is created, this is called
-- pFolder is the name of the folder containing the standalone's folder
--
-- this routine copies over the missing display plugins
-- and touches the app tho make the icon appear
--
on standaloneSaved pFolder
   -- only works when building on Mac OS X
   if the platform  MacOS then exit standaloneSaved
   set the itemdel to .
   if item 1 of the systemversion  10 then exit standaloneSaved

   put the short name of this stack into tStackName

   -- check if building any Mac OS X version
   put the cRevStandaloneSettings[MacOSX] of stack tStackName into tMacUB
   put the cRevStandaloneSettings[MacOSX PowerPC-32] of stack
tStackName into tMacPPC
   put the cRevStandaloneSettings[MacOSX x86-32] of stack
tStackName into tMacIntel
   if tMacUB = false and tMacPPC = false and tMacIntel = false then
exit standaloneSaved

   -- get the full name of the standalone folder
   put the cRevStandaloneSettings[name] of stack tStackName into tName
   put pFolder  tName  / into tAppFolder

   -- if building multiples, there will be a Mac OS X folder,
otherwise, just .app
   if there is a folder (tAppFolder  MacOSX) then
   put MacOSX/ after tAppFolder
   end if

   -- get out if can't find the new app
   if there is not a folder (tAppFolder  tName  .app) then exit
standaloneSaved

   -- get the new app's plugins folder so the display plugins can be
copied across
   put tAppFolder  tName  .app  /Contents/PlugIns/ into tAppPlugins

   -- get the path to the Rev app's plugins folder to find the originals
   put the effective filename of stack Home into tRevPath
   set the itemdel to /
   delete item -2 to -1 of tRevPath
   put /Revolution.app/Contents/PlugIns/ after tRevPath

   -- list the plugins
   put the defaultfolder into tOldDefault
   set the defaultfolder to tRevPath
   put the folders into tPlugins
   filter tPlugins with *.bundle

   -- copy them to the new app
   -- bundles need revCopyFolder despite what the docs say
   -- revCopyFolder needs the full path for source  destination
   repeat for each line i in tPlugins
   put tRevPath  i into tSource
   revCopyFolder tSource, tAppPlugins
   end repeat

   -- 'touch' new app to make it's icon appear
   put touch '  tAppFolder  tName  .app' into tCmd
   get shell(tCmd)

   -- reset default folder
   set the defaultfolder to tOldDefault
end standaloneSaved
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Re: QT Player controls frozen in Deamcard 2.7.2

2006-08-22 Thread J. Landman Gay

Andrew Nelson wrote:
I upgraded to DreamCard 2.7.2 only to discover that all my movie players 
no longer work! The controller is visible etc. but it won't play (or 
drag) by clicking the button or with a scripted command. 


This happens when a player's alwaysBuffer property is set to true. Check 
that property, and set it to false if it somehow got toggled.


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