Re: Deleting lines in a scrolling list box?
Hi Jan, Le 28 nov. 06 à 21:04, Jan Schenkel a écrit : I can't remember right now if the hilitedLines come back out sorted properly, but one can use ## set the hilitedLines of field List to 2,1,3,4 ## to make sure that the black border is around the second line. (I don't have the code with me right now, but you get the idea) set the hilitedLines of field List to 4,2,3,1 put the hilitedLines of field List 1,2,3,4 As Ken noticed it, it seems that hilitedLines property always returns a sorted list but, you are right, it may be set without any order. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
remove element from array
How can I delete (or remove) an element from an array so that it does not appear anymore in the keys of the array? Thanks Paolo Mazza ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Deleting lines in a scrolling list box?
Hi Eric, As Ken noticed it, it seems that hilitedLines property always returns a sorted list but, you are right, it may be set without any order. I visited your site last night. Wow!! I couldn't believe the wonderful code you have there! Your tabbed buttons routine cut my 8 If then else statements to a couple of lines of code. Totally awesome. Thanks for being so generous! Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: remove element from array
How can I delete (or remove) an element from an array so that it does not appear anymore in the keys of the array? No doubt someone will post a really cool, efficient and elegant solution - but what immediately springs to my mind is to parse the existing array into a new one Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Stupid Programming Challenge(Barry Barber)
Thanks Jan and Scott for your patience. It was not wasted time as I am actually trying to put together a stack with lots of scrolling groups full of small images. The idea of custom graphic scollers appeals to me a lot, I shall try to get to grips with this.:) OT.Is there a way on this list to use entities in names with accented characters as I seem to see a lot of question marks e.g., S?lid, Andr? etc.?(the last ones for real) Thanks again Barry -- Scopri subito RAS FullCasa: vinci 500 di buoni Mediaworld a settimana ed un viaggio Expedia! http://click.libero.it/ras29nov06 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: remove element from array
On 29 Nov 2006, at 08:38, paolo mazza wrote: How can I delete (or remove) an element from an array so that it does not appear anymore in the keys of the array? delete variable myArray[x] Cheers Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: remove element from array
Hi Paolo, delete variable tArray[MyKey] ;-) on Test repeat with i = 1 to 10 put i into tArray[(Key i)] end repeat -- creates an array with 10 keys: key1 to key10 delete variable tArray[Key10] -- the array now only haves 9 keys: key1 to key9 end Test Hope this helps. Le 29 nov. 06 à 09:38, paolo mazza a écrit : How can I delete (or remove) an element from an array so that it does not appear anymore in the keys of the array? Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: remove element from array
Hi, Paolo. delete variable tArray[5] will remove element 5 from the array named tArray JC paolo mazza wrote: How can I delete (or remove) an element from an array so that it does not appear anymore in the keys of the array? Thanks Paolo Mazza ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CGI remark (was : Revolution and the Web, feedback wanted, Part 1 of 3)
Mark, I'm not sure to fully grasp the full extension of your remark (as I haven't used fastCGI yet), but as for separating 2 users' requests, this can be done easily by issueing a unique ID code to each user, and sending it along with each cgi request... Maintaining a table of logs with those unique IDs inside a DB can be usefull as well if you need to force users to re-log every 15 min or so... I might be missing something, but I wouldn't call this a lot of frontend and backend coding... JB Mark Wieder wrote : Once you use fastCGI that problem disappears, as the engine is always in the server's memory, so it's like never closing the stack. But now you have problems separating the two users' namespaces. And since the variables are persistent, interleaving the two users' requests is going to get garbled. There's no way to keep them in separate places without a lot of frontend and backend coding. And that's just two users - it becomes a lot harder as you try to scale it. If you could thread user requests then this would resolve to a much simpler case. Send in time also probably requires multithreading, if it can be done at all. It's similar to the blocking problem conceptually. And any of the blocking calls will bring a fastCGI system to a halt and prevent multiuser access. -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
get nesting level of controls
Is there any handler or function to tell what group or card any selected control belongs to ? And vice versa - how do we get a list of all controls contained within a group or card ? Best r.! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution and the Web, feedback wanted, Part 1 of 3So
That's my point, exactly. Let the web stuff happen on the web, with web tools. For those of us who find web functions useful in our Rev applications, altBrowser in Rev 2.7.5 should do the trick. For those who find xtalk useful for web productions, jscard from Creysoft looks like the answer. What programming or production problem would be solved by morphing Rev into Perl-PHP-Ruby-on-rails-JavaScript-Ajax-Curl-Python-CSS-Apache? What would be the gain? Jerry Muelver Chipp Walters wrote: Isn't that what altBrowser does? On 11/28/06, Jerry Muelver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about building an interface to make web things run in Revolution? In other words, don't map group to DIV to make Rev scripts run on the web, but map DIV to group to make web scripts run in Rev. I think if you gave me HTMLtext that could handle hyperlinks, UL and OL, TABLE, text wraparound IMG placement, HTML forms components, and by-paragraph font styling (CSS-sensitive DIVs), the job would be done. In fact, with the advent of an embedded browser in Rev 2.7.5, it seems to me the job IS done! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution and the Web, feedback wanted, Part 1 of 3
Ken , I've been facing the problem trying to convince some of my clients to develop custom apps with Rev... Please correct me if I'm wrong, but actually, in some cases (like chat apps, or P2P files sharing apps) users don't seem to be reluctant to download dedicated apps and use them outside their browser... I've never used Napster, but I vaguely recall that in 2001-2002 some of my colleagues used to install a specific app of their Macs to browse and download files... I guess that the more fun / benefit end users expect to get from a website, the less reluctant they are to download a dedicated app... I once tried to use another trick to convince a client to develop a dedicated app made with Rev to be downloaded from his website : tp shape this app as a screensaver that would have all kinds of features, including openGL interface for realtime 3D simulation of events, etc. Unfortunately, it took ages to the client to make his decision, and finally there was too little time left for development... JB This has been the biggest hurdle for me... clients that (regardless of whether you agree with them or not), want to be able to open their browser of choice, go to a page, click on a link or button on the page, and display Rev stacks *without* having to go to the trouble of forcing their customers to download the Player, run an install to hook up the stack to the Player, etc. I have been very good at convincing my clients that the development and internet capabilities of Rev are such that it is in their best interest that I develop these applications in Rev, but it is the hurdle I mention above that has actually caused me to be forced to duplicate chunks of Transcript code/interfaces into HTML/etc. so that it could be operated from the browser. Unfortunately I've been unable to convince anyone to use a custom browser either (that is, a Rev standalone with altBrowser embedded), for the same reason - people want to use *their* browser, and not download anything, just click links. These are non-sensical arguments, true, but they *are* real, unfortunately... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get nesting level of controls
I have a small library that deals with the first problem. RevOnline User: Mark Smith Category: Programming Name: libObjectOwner best, Mark On 29 Nov 2006, at 11:39, Viktoras Didziulis wrote: Is there any handler or function to tell what group or card any selected control belongs to ? And vice versa - how do we get a list of all controls contained within a group or card ? Best r.! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get nesting level of controls
And the second part is easy (I just had to check): on mouseUp repeat with n = 1 to the number of controls in grp someGroup put the name of control n of grp someGroup cr after cList end repeat put cList end mouseUp You can substitute 'card' for 'group'. I think (not tested thoroughly) that to get all the controls in a stack, you'll have to do it card by card. Best, Mark On 29 Nov 2006, at 11:39, Viktoras Didziulis wrote: Is there any handler or function to tell what group or card any selected control belongs to ? And vice versa - how do we get a list of all controls contained within a group or card ? Best r.! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get nesting level of controls
Thanks Mark! Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Mark Smith Date: 11/29/2006 2:21:01 PM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: get nesting level of controls And the second part is easy (I just had to check): on mouseUp repeat with n = 1 to the number of controls in grp someGroup put the name of control n of grp someGroup cr after cList end repeat put cList end mouseUp You can substitute 'card' for 'group'. I think (not tested thoroughly) that to get all the controls in a stack, you'll have to do it card by card. Best, Mark On 29 Nov 2006, at 11:39, Viktoras Didziulis wrote: Is there any handler or function to tell what group or card any selected control belongs to ? And vice versa - how do we get a list of all controls contained within a group or card ? Best r.! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
get the size of image returns 0
Image myIm is displayed on a card from a ppm file. Answer the size of image myIm always returns zero (Windows XP, Rev Studio 2.6.1 -2.7.5)... And when I alternatively try: answer the size of the imagedata of image myIm studio hangs and stops responding. Is it a known bug or whatever else ? I am just trying to measure how much memory in bytes the loaded image takes... BW Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get nesting level of controls
Viktoras, With these scripts, you can put the objects of a group, a card or a stack. You can also put the owners of any object. Best, Mark getProp objects repeat with x = 1 to number of controls of the target put the name of control x of the target return after myList end repeat sort myList return myList end objects getProp objectIDs repeat with x = 1 to number of controls of the target put the id of control x of the target return after myList end repeat sort myList return myList end objectIDs getProp owners put the target into myOwner put the effective filename of the defaultStack into myUltimateOwner put 0 into x repeat until myOwner contains myUltimateOwner add 1 to x put the owner of myOwner return after myList put last line of myList into myOwner if x 100 then exit repeat end repeat return myList end owners -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 29-nov-2006, om 12:39 heeft Viktoras Didziulis het volgende geschreven: Is there any handler or function to tell what group or card any selected control belongs to ? And vice versa - how do we get a list of all controls contained within a group or card ? Best r.! Viktoras ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution and the Web, feedback wanted, Part 1 of 3
Mikey, The free for startups version is just that. Actually, if you read the terms - it's free until your startup makes money. Then you owe them licensing fees retroactively. So they're offering deferred payment to startups, which is cool I guess - but it's definitely misleading that they call it free. Intriguing, but would you stake your startup company on thousands of dollars of deferred licensing fees of a 1.0 product? Scary. The straight Pro edition is LIST PRICE $5,000, however they are accepting new applications to the Pioneers program and preorders at a big discount (65%?) until...sometime. The per-seat price includes everything. That's still around $2k per seat, and I assume the offer will go away if the product starts selling. You buy the Professional edition, you get a perpetual license, and you can build and deploy as many systems, servers, etc. as you like without paying anything more. It includes the application server, database server, and web server along with the rest of it. I believe they are trying to compete with M$, so they intentionally gave away the deployments to attract corporate and professional developers. So, in more ways than one it is different. The packaging is different, the pricing is different. I agree it's interesting. Keep in mind they include the database and web servers because they're just bundling free software (Firebird and Apache). Any tool that generates web apps could bundle those two if desired. Pricing out deployments versus developer licenses can often be 6 of one and a half dozen of another - really it depends on your business. Some love to be able to just pay for the developer seats and be done with it. Others would rather save money until they are ready to bill a client - and then just pass on the cost. Personally I *do* like the former the majority of the time. 2) On AJAX/FJAX: If you've used Gmail or Google Maps you will immediately recognize that there is a significant difference between AJAX apps and your run-of-the-mill web apps. Speed. Smoothness. Shortcuts. You can't get the same feel from straight XHTML. Sure you can - just add Javascript =). Seriously, though - XHTML + Javascript enabled is all you need on the client side to have an AJAX application. I don't think anyone was suggesting exporting just XHTML tags from Rev and calling that a web app...? The XML portion is a way to speed the information transfer process. Instead of reloading the web page every time you pull up a new record, only the changed data can be transferred, which means significant speed savings, and no flashing blinking screen when your browser reloads the page just to display the data from another record...err card. In addition, the opening A in AJAX stands for Asynchronous, which means that your application can and does cache data, so that it is already in your browser waiting for you when you do something. XML has nothing to do per se with the speed of AJAX apps. You can very well make asynchronous calls for data without transmitting it in XML format, and get all of the same benefits. Depending on the app, XML may in fact be a good format to choose - but it's definitely not the source of increased speed. Your asynchronous request could return XML, XHTML, HTML, plain text or my personal fave - JSON (Javascript Object Notation) objects. Or anything else your client-side code can handle. If you really want to open a can of works, try sending back some Javascript to execute - voila, self-modifying web app (ack)! - Brian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: remove element from array
Thank you guys ... it is so simple! delete variable tArray[5] It was very kind of you. Bye Paolo Mazza ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution and the Web, feedback wanted, Part 1 of 3
Actually, if you read the terms - it's free until your startup makes money. Then you owe them licensing fees retroactively. So they're offering deferred payment to startups, which is cool I guess - but it's definitely misleading that they call it free. Intriguing, but would you stake your startup company on thousands of dollars of deferred licensing fees of a 1.0 product? Scary. It's not really retroactive. You owe the seat fee, as of the date when you start making money, subject to whatever actual deal you work out with them. They do state that they will work these terms out on a case by case basis with each startup. And yes, I would agree to this, because I have zero risk in trying it out. On top of that I can just take the Express version for FREE until I'm confident that it's going to work for me, then go Pro. Worrying about the 1.0 version is a little odd when discussing a business decision broadly. First of all, the startup that is looking at this deal isn't even at .1 yet. Second, the price isn't $5,000. The 1.0 price is $1,748 until February or so, if I remember the dates correctly. Thirdly, what would you say if they took $7,000 in stock options per seat instead of cash when you start generating revenue? Would it be a good deal then? Finally, arguing that any pricing or any product is a worry because it is 1.0 does not make the product or the pricing a problem in even the medium term. If this was the deal and the product was 1.5 (which one would expect it will be sometime next year), would you still think it's a problem? I agree it's interesting. Keep in mind they include the database and web servers because they're just bundling free software (Firebird and Apache). Any tool that generates web apps could bundle those two if desired. Pricing out deployments versus developer licenses can often be 6 of one and a half dozen of another - really it depends on your business. Some love to be able to just pay for the developer seats and be done with it. Others would rather save money until they are ready to bill a client - and then just pass on the cost. Personally I *do* like the former the majority of the time. Yes, they are bundling in software that doesn't cost them anything (which means no license fee for SQL Server or Oracle). The thing that interests me, though is that they are hiding these components from me, and they are making it easy to detach them (if you decide to go Pro). I don't have to know how to configure Firebird or Apache, or write a bunch of Perl or PHP. I design my application the way I would if I were using any other RAD IDE, and when I compile it, Firebird and Apache are built in. 2) On AJAX/FJAX: If you've used Gmail or Google Maps you will immediately recognize that there is a significant difference between AJAX apps and your run-of-the-mill web apps. Speed. Smoothness. Shortcuts. You can't get the same feel from straight XHTML. XML has nothing to do per se with the speed of AJAX apps. You can very well make asynchronous calls for data without transmitting it in XML format, and get all of the same benefits. Depending on the app, XML may in fact be a good format to choose - but it's definitely not the source of increased speed. Your asynchronous request could return XML, XHTML, HTML, plain text or my personal fave - JSON (Javascript Object Notation) objects. Or anything else your client-side code can handle. If you really want to open a can of works, try sending back some Javascript to execute - voila, self-modifying web app (ack)! Yes, you can do this in a variety of ways. I have not seen any implementations that _efficiently_ use bandwidth that use anything OTHER THAN XML to embed the data. If you can do it, great. Maybe we'll get some of the frameworks tweaked to make life less taghappy/. -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, and did a little diving. And God said, This is good. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get nesting level of controls
Recently, Viktoras Didziulis wrote: Is there any handler or function to tell what group or card any selected control belongs to ? This brings up a related point: when you have a group that contains several nested groups, why does the following generate a can't find background error? get name of last group of group myCoolGroup The workaround for me has been to use: put number of groups of group myCoolGroup into N get name of group N of group myCoolGroup It seems Rev is unable to deal with last when referring to nested groups. Because... ? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: unexpected behavior 'on mouseup'
On 11/28/06 6:27 PM, Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does the card script run when clicking the button that contains the script: on mouseUp end mouseUp Because in actuality, it *doesn't* contain the script. The new button has no script, but when you open the script in the Script Editor, Rev adds the on mouseUp ... end mouseUp for your (theoretical) convenience. So if you cancel out of the Script Editor and don't Apply, the button remains with no script in it, so the message passed through the hierarchy. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get the size of image returns 0
On 11/29/06 6:21 AM, Viktoras Didziulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Image myIm is displayed on a card from a ppm file. Answer the size of image myIm always returns zero (Windows XP, Rev Studio 2.6.1 -2.7.5)... And when I alternatively try: answer the size of the imagedata of image myIm studio hangs and stops responding. Is it a known bug or whatever else ? I am just trying to measure how much memory in bytes the loaded image takes... I think it's because you're looking for the length, not the size of the imageData. Try this: put the length of (the imageData of img myIm) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [X-POST] Share your recipes!
Bill, Why is 3890 - Missing handler in Dictionary - Throws up Script error included in your list? Best, Mark P.S. Your smiley made your message end up in my spam box. -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 28-nov-2006, om 21:38 heeft Bill Marriott het volgende geschreven: I'm reposting this to the list from the forums in the hopes of getting the widest possible group of people looking at how to coax these bugs out. Please help if you can! Calling all bug chefs! One of the toughest problems to fix is one you can't reproduce. There are several of these in the bug system. The developers have identified a list of bugs that need recipes -- in other words, the steps required to reproduce the problem. Those bugs include the following: 2868 - Saving with control-S has problems 3067 - Find and Replace too darned slow 3410 - revMail on MacOS X does not work correctly with non ASCII characters 3816 - openStack seems not to be sent to stacks on Mac OS 1377 - Printing Scripts in color causes overlapping text in the printout 3843 - openStack and openCard messages not being sent on stack launch 3845 - Dictionary Quick Search can't be canceled 3890 - Missing handler in Dictionary - Throws up Script error 3830 - object does not have this property in IDE when deselecting a multiple-image selection So here's an open invitation for you to read up on these bugs and try to devise a test case which can reliably (or at least more often than not) cause these errors to be generated. If/when you find a way to reproduce these issues, please log into Bugzilla and post a new comment to the bug and/or attach your sample file. Thanks! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Accessing files on CD drives under Windows
Hi from Paris, I have a CD whose Volume Name I know, and also I know the names of certain files on the CD. I want to have access to these files from a general button script. On the Mac, the volumes gives me the names of the mounted volumes (including my CD's), so I can build the complete path names, and then reference, open and dispose of the CD files as I wish. On the PC, the volumes gives me a list of units (C:, D:, etc.), which is completely useless, cos I don't know on which unit my CD is mounted. OK - So l can try programming around this problem ! Because I know the names of some the files on the CD, I can do a if there is a fileToto (to identify the drive ID), on all the units I find in the volumes function. Once I know the drive ID, I can do what I want with the files on that CD. Here, we have a problem in my search loop, because if there is no volume mounted on any of the units in the list (which is always the case), I get a Windows interrogation : There is no volume on unit x: - continue or cancel, etc. .. so my programmed search is is no longer possible. Anybody know how I can find the Volume Names on all the PC devices, as is possible on the Mac, so I can access my CD files ? I think I must have missed something ! -Francis Nothing should ever be done for the first time ! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [X-POST] Share your recipes!
Yeah yeah, first non-ASCII message I send in three years to the list an everyone's writing me about it :) The graphic smiley appeared because I simply copied and pasted my post from the forums. I didn't even notice it. I'll be doubly careful about it in the future. As for the list, I simply forwarded what I got from the development team in the category of need help with recipes and I'll need to look deeper into that. There will be several changes occurring in Bugzilla VERY SOON to enable more intelligent categorization of bugs... hopefully that will eliminate this problem. Truth be told, everyone should be going through BugZilla right now -- even before the changes are implemented -- and commenting on their bugs, adding info, etc. All the old stuff *will* carry over to the new system, so nothing will be lost/wasted. I just know that there's several bugs out there that are a) not reported and b) not fully fleshed out. Best ways to help: 1) Go through your own bugs, make sure they're categorized properly and have sufficient recipes, test cases, screen shots, sample stacks, etc. Add comments and attachments if they are not. 2) Use the voting system. Precious few bugs have been voted on. (There are a lot of *enhancements* with votes, but those aren't really being considered for 2.7.5.) Don't worry about using up your votes right now... just make sure at least one vote is applied to each bug that is significant at all. The more people who vote on a bug, the earlier in-line it will be to be fixed. 3) Scan through your old posts to the discussion list(s) and make sure that the problems you've chatted about and worked around are recorded. Marielle has graciously agreed to tackle this problem with a gee-whiz semantic analysis routine, but it's probably not likely that any one person would be able to catch the unreported bugs with 100% accuracy. I'm very confident now that Bugzilla is being used extensively and that effort put into your bugs will be noticed and acted upon. This isn't guaranteeing a fix for ever single bug... but I can say that each bug is being reviewed; the tagging is being double-checked, and a massive cleanup is otherwise underway. As for the beta... beta 2 is just around the corner. The target date is Dec 7 and you will see an AMAZING difference... more than 100 bug fixes, PLUS the long-awaited Linux version! Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill, Why is 3890 - Missing handler in Dictionary - Throws up Script error included in your list? Best, Mark P.S. Your smiley made your message end up in my spam box. -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 28-nov-2006, om 21:38 heeft Bill Marriott het volgende geschreven: I'm reposting this to the list from the forums in the hopes of getting the widest possible group of people looking at how to coax these bugs out. Please help if you can! Calling all bug chefs! One of the toughest problems to fix is one you can't reproduce. There are several of these in the bug system. The developers have identified a list of bugs that need recipes -- in other words, the steps required to reproduce the problem. Those bugs include the following: 2868 - Saving with control-S has problems 3067 - Find and Replace too darned slow 3410 - revMail on MacOS X does not work correctly with non ASCII characters 3816 - openStack seems not to be sent to stacks on Mac OS 1377 - Printing Scripts in color causes overlapping text in the printout 3843 - openStack and openCard messages not being sent on stack launch 3845 - Dictionary Quick Search can't be canceled 3890 - Missing handler in Dictionary - Throws up Script error 3830 - object does not have this property in IDE when deselecting a multiple-image selection So here's an open invitation for you to read up on these bugs and try to devise a test case which can reliably (or at least more often than not) cause these errors to be generated. If/when you find a way to reproduce these issues, please log into Bugzilla and post a new comment to the bug and/or attach your sample file. Thanks! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Accessing files on CD drives under Windows
Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Paris, Hello from New York, Anybody know how I can find the Volume Names on all the PC devices, as is possible on the Mac, so I can access my CD files ? You can use the list volume command in diskpart: C:\diskpart Microsoft DiskPart version 5.1.3565 Copyright (C) 1999-2003 Microsoft Corporation. On computer: STINKPAD DISKPART list volume Volume ### Ltr LabelFs TypeSize Status Info -- --- --- - -- --- - Volume 0 D Linux Devic CDFS DVD-ROM 307 MB Volume 1 C IBM_PRELOAD NTFS Partition 71 GB Healthy System -- Geir A. Myrestrand ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution and the Web, feedback wanted, Part 1 of 3So
Jerry, For me, at least, the big gain would be allowing me to do all my Web application development in Rev. (Note, not Web page design, but app development.) It is, I think, difficult for most people to become truly proficient in too many languages at once. Being able to build a Rev app and then deploy it to a Web server/browser combination would for me be a pretty big deal. Dan On 11/29/06, Jerry Muelver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What programming or production problem would be solved by morphing Rev into Perl-PHP-Ruby-on-rails-JavaScript-Ajax-Curl-Python-CSS-Apache? What would be the gain? Jerry Muelver ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: palette in RevMedia
As far as I recall it was in Medias fact sheet, that it isn't possible to have palette stacks. See: http://www.runrev.com/section/features.php So, no bug, but design decision. All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution and the Web, feedback wanted, Part 1 of 3
On 11/29/06 6:11 AM, jbv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please correct me if I'm wrong, but actually, in some cases (like chat apps, or P2P files sharing apps) users don't seem to be reluctant to download dedicated apps and use them outside their browser... I've never used Napster, but I vaguely recall that in 2001-2002 some of my colleagues used to install a specific app of their Macs to browse and download files... I guess that the more fun / benefit end users expect to get from a website, the less reluctant they are to download a dedicated app... I think it depends on the industry. The lest tech-savvy a customer is, the less likely a client will want to deploy a solution to that customer that requires downloading anything. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: altFont: Load a font
Definitely. Hoping the Scotts can make it so. :) It would be such a nice feature. Mark On Nov 28, 2006, at 12:21 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Mark Swindell wrote: I'm hoping that Rev will make altFont a relatively transparent feature when it gets incorporated into the next version of Rev. Such that there is a simple imbed option in the standalone builder, and that the ensuing standalone will check font availability and do the install/uninstall on the host computer as needed upon startup/shutdown. What a good idea! Can you put it in as a feature request in Bugzilla? I think everyone would like to see this implemented. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [X-POST] Share your recipes!
Hi Bill, if the bug which I co-reported is fixed, who is responsible for marking it as fixed - me or the Runtime Revolution team who fixed it or the first who reported or anybody ? For example before the 2.7.5 dp-2 I reported a bug #3992 related to behavior of tables in compiled apps, which was marked as a duplicate for bug #3386. I checked it on 2.7.5 dp-2 and it seems fixed. At least my old recipe does not work anymore :-). Now who can/should confirm that the bug is fixed ? Best regards Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Bill Marriott Date: 11/29/2006 6:48:56 PM To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: [X-POST] Share your recipes! Yeah yeah, first non-ASCII message I send in three years to the list an everyone's writing me about it :) The graphic smiley appeared because I simply copied and pasted my post from the forums. I didn't even notice it. I'll be doubly careful about it in the future. As for the list, I simply forwarded what I got from the development team in the category of need help with recipes and I'll need to look deeper into that. There will be several changes occurring in Bugzilla VERY SOON to enable more intelligent categorization of bugs... hopefully that will eliminate this problem. Truth be told, everyone should be going through BugZilla right now -- even before the changes are implemented -- and commenting on their bugs, adding info, etc. All the old stuff *will* carry over to the new system, so nothing will be lost/wasted. I just know that there's several bugs out there that are a) not reported and b) not fully fleshed out. Best ways to help: 1) Go through your own bugs, make sure they're categorized properly and have sufficient recipes, test cases, screen shots, sample stacks, etc. Add comments and attachments if they are not. 2) Use the voting system. Precious few bugs have been voted on. (There are a lot of *enhancements* with votes, but those aren't really being considered for 2.7.5.) Don't worry about using up your votes right now... just make sure at least one vote is applied to each bug that is significant at all. The more people who vote on a bug, the earlier in-line it will be to be fixed. 3) Scan through your old posts to the discussion list(s) and make sure that the problems you've chatted about and worked around are recorded. Marielle has graciously agreed to tackle this problem with a gee-whiz semantic analysis routine, but it's probably not likely that any one person would be able to catch the unreported bugs with 100% accuracy. I'm very confident now that Bugzilla is being used extensively and that effort put into your bugs will be noticed and acted upon. This isn't guaranteeing a fix for ever single bug... but I can say that each bug is being reviewed; the tagging is being double-checked, and a massive cleanup is otherwise underway. As for the beta... beta 2 is just around the corner. The target date is Dec 7 and you will see an AMAZING difference... more than 100 bug fixes, PLUS the long-awaited Linux version! Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill, Why is 3890 - Missing handler in Dictionary - Throws up Script error included in your list? Best, Mark P.S. Your smiley made your message end up in my spam box. -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 28-nov-2006, om 21:38 heeft Bill Marriott het volgende geschreven: I'm reposting this to the list from the forums in the hopes of getting the widest possible group of people looking at how to coax these bugs out. Please help if you can! Calling all bug chefs! One of the toughest problems to fix is one you can't reproduce. There are several of these in the bug system. The developers have identified a list of bugs that need recipes -- in other words, the steps required to reproduce the problem. Those bugs include the following: 2868 - Saving with control-S has problems 3067 - Find and Replace too darned slow 3410 - revMail on MacOS X does not work correctly with non ASCII characters 3816 - openStack seems not to be sent to stacks on Mac OS 1377 - Printing Scripts in color causes overlapping text in the printout 3843 - openStack and openCard messages not being sent on stack launch 3845 - Dictionary Quick Search can't be canceled 3890 - Missing handler in Dictionary - Throws up Script error 3830 - object does not have this property in IDE when deselecting a multiple-image selection So here's an open invitation for you to read up on these bugs and try to devise a test case which can reliably (or at least more often than not) cause these errors to be generated. If/when you find a way to reproduce these
Re: altFont: Load a font
I'm hoping that Rev will make altFont a relatively transparent feature when it gets incorporated into the next version of Rev. Such that there is a simple imbed option in the standalone builder, and that the ensuing standalone will check font availability and do the install/uninstall on the host computer as needed upon startup/shutdown. Does it provide notification to the user before making this modification to the user's system? I'd like to see truly embedded fonts, right into the stack file a la PDF -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: jscard
Stephen Barncard wrote: Have you checked their site lately? http://www.creysoft.com/jscard/ Nothing works.. the trick. For those who find xtalk useful for web productions, jscard from Creysoft looks like the answer. Looks like you can get the PHP source here: http://www.creysoft.com/xtalk/ Jerry Muelver ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CGI remark (was : Revolution and the Web, feedback wanted, Part 1 of 3)
Robert- Wednesday, November 29, 2006, 4:13:09 AM, you wrote: Actually, single-threading of Rev comes handy here. At any given moment, the program can run only for a single user, so as long as all user-specific data is passed as arguments and the any data that needs to be preserved is kept in a backend database, there is no problem. ...and then it's no longer a rev app, it's a cgi app written in rev and hand-crafted for a web environment. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: CGI remark (was : Revolution and the Web, feedback wanted, Part 1 of 3)
jbv- Wednesday, November 29, 2006, 2:41:46 AM, you wrote: I'm not sure to fully grasp the full extension of your remark (as I haven't used fastCGI yet), but as for separating 2 users' requests, this can be done easily by issueing a unique ID code to each user, and sending it along with each cgi request... Maintaining a table of logs with those unique IDs inside a DB can be usefull as well if you need to force users to re-log every 15 min or so... Yes, it can be done. The problem is that then you're hand-crafting a web app written in rev. Nothing wrong with that, but the same app is probably not going to run as a desktop app and as a cgi backend. -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [X-POST] Share your recipes!
The original reporter of a bug should be able to mark it as Resolved - Fixed in Bugzilla. And you're perfectly welcome to do so. You'll be able to mark your own bug as resolved, but not the one posted by the other person. You can however leave a comment and the original poster will receive an email and could therefore mark it. Viktoras Didziulis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Bill, if the bug which I co-reported is fixed, who is responsible for marking it as fixed - me or the Runtime Revolution team who fixed it or the first who reported or anybody ? For example before the 2.7.5 dp-2 I reported a bug #3992 related to behavior of tables in compiled apps, which was marked as a duplicate for bug #3386. I checked it on 2.7.5 dp-2 and it seems fixed. At least my old recipe does not work anymore :-). Now who can/should confirm that the bug is fixed ? Best regards Viktoras ---Original Message--- From: Bill Marriott Date: 11/29/2006 6:48:56 PM To: use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Subject: Re: [X-POST] Share your recipes! Yeah yeah, first non-ASCII message I send in three years to the list an everyone's writing me about it :) The graphic smiley appeared because I simply copied and pasted my post from the forums. I didn't even notice it. I'll be doubly careful about it in the future. As for the list, I simply forwarded what I got from the development team in the category of need help with recipes and I'll need to look deeper into that. There will be several changes occurring in Bugzilla VERY SOON to enable more intelligent categorization of bugs... hopefully that will eliminate this problem. Truth be told, everyone should be going through BugZilla right now -- even before the changes are implemented -- and commenting on their bugs, adding info, etc. All the old stuff *will* carry over to the new system, so nothing will be lost/wasted. I just know that there's several bugs out there that are a) not reported and b) not fully fleshed out. Best ways to help: 1) Go through your own bugs, make sure they're categorized properly and have sufficient recipes, test cases, screen shots, sample stacks, etc. Add comments and attachments if they are not. 2) Use the voting system. Precious few bugs have been voted on. (There are a lot of *enhancements* with votes, but those aren't really being considered for 2.7.5.) Don't worry about using up your votes right now... just make sure at least one vote is applied to each bug that is significant at all. The more people who vote on a bug, the earlier in-line it will be to be fixed. 3) Scan through your old posts to the discussion list(s) and make sure that the problems you've chatted about and worked around are recorded. Marielle has graciously agreed to tackle this problem with a gee-whiz semantic analysis routine, but it's probably not likely that any one person would be able to catch the unreported bugs with 100% accuracy. I'm very confident now that Bugzilla is being used extensively and that effort put into your bugs will be noticed and acted upon. This isn't guaranteeing a fix for ever single bug... but I can say that each bug is being reviewed; the tagging is being double-checked, and a massive cleanup is otherwise underway. As for the beta... beta 2 is just around the corner. The target date is Dec 7 and you will see an AMAZING difference... more than 100 bug fixes, PLUS the long-awaited Linux version! Mark Schonewille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bill, Why is 3890 - Missing handler in Dictionary - Throws up Script error included in your list? Best, Mark P.S. Your smiley made your message end up in my spam box. -- Economy-x-Talk Consultancy and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Get your store on-line within minutes with Salery Web Store software. Download at http://www.salery.biz Op 28-nov-2006, om 21:38 heeft Bill Marriott het volgende geschreven: I'm reposting this to the list from the forums in the hopes of getting the widest possible group of people looking at how to coax these bugs out. Please help if you can! Calling all bug chefs! One of the toughest problems to fix is one you can't reproduce. There are several of these in the bug system. The developers have identified a list of bugs that need recipes -- in other words, the steps required to reproduce the problem. Those bugs include the following: 2868 - Saving with control-S has problems 3067 - Find and Replace too darned slow 3410 - revMail on MacOS X does not work correctly with non ASCII characters 3816 - openStack seems not to be sent to stacks on Mac OS 1377 - Printing Scripts in color causes overlapping text in the printout 3843 - openStack and openCard messages not being sent on stack launch 3845 - Dictionary Quick Search can't be canceled 3890 - Missing
Re: get nesting level of controls
Because no one's Bugzilla'd it yet? :) Scott Rossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Recently, Viktoras Didziulis wrote: Is there any handler or function to tell what group or card any selected control belongs to ? This brings up a related point: when you have a group that contains several nested groups, why does the following generate a can't find background error? get name of last group of group myCoolGroup The workaround for me has been to use: put number of groups of group myCoolGroup into N get name of group N of group myCoolGroup It seems Rev is unable to deal with last when referring to nested groups. Because... ? Thanks Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get nesting level of controls
On 29 Nov 2006, at 15:00, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Viktoras Didziulis wrote: Is there any handler or function to tell what group or card any selected control belongs to ? This brings up a related point: when you have a group that contains several nested groups, why does the following generate a can't find background error? get name of last group of group myCoolGroup The workaround for me has been to use: put number of groups of group myCoolGroup into N get name of group N of group myCoolGroup It seems Rev is unable to deal with last when referring to nested groups. Because... ? Does group -1 work? All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Accessing files on CD drives under Windows
Geir- diskpart? Interesting - I learned something new here. And for those of us with win2k, there's a diskpart for us, too: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0fd9788a-5d64-4f57-949f-ef62de7ab1aedisplaylang=en -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: altFont: Load a font
Thanks Chip for your advice. I'm a little stacked at the moment but will try your solution sometime next week. On 29 Nov 2006, at 18:16, Richard Gaskin wrote: I'm hoping that Rev will make altFont a relatively transparent feature when it gets incorporated into the next version of Rev. Such that there is a simple imbed option in the standalone builder, and that the ensuing standalone will check font availability and do the install/uninstall on the host computer as needed upon startup/shutdown. Does it provide notification to the user before making this modification to the user's system? One would assume the apps. author would state that permissions *may* be required to modify the system at install time in order to successfully install all items. Not mentioning fonts specifically. I'd like to see truly embedded fonts, right into the stack file a la PDF That would be the ideal. Our FAQ page here gives a rundown of font formats. The OpenType PS (CFF) format holds the most promise for the future in which to plough resources. But TrueType (now) should also be embedded relatively easily. http://www.clubtype.co.uk/formatlist.html Adrian -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com __ Club Type http://www.clubtype.co.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get nesting level of controls
Recently, Dave wrote: It seems Rev is unable to deal with last when referring to nested groups. Because... ? Does group -1 work? Not here. But regardless, I'm still curious why last doesn't work with groups... Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design - E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: http://www.tactilemedia.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: unexpected behavior 'on mouseup'
On 11/29/06 7:14 AM, Ken Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/28/06 6:27 PM, Jim Ault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why does the card script run when clicking the button that contains the script: on mouseUp end mouseUp Because in actuality, it *doesn't* contain the script. The new button has no script, but when you open the script in the Script Editor, Rev adds the on mouseUp ... end mouseUp for your (theoretical) convenience. So if you cancel out of the Script Editor and don't Apply, the button remains with no script in it, so the message passed through the hierarchy. I guess the confusing part is that the Apply button is dim and unavailable (as well as the Revert) , so it appears as though the script has already been applied. In order to have the button be a trap-mouse-up button, you need to type something in the script, even if it is a single space, then you can click the Apply button. Now that I know, I know. Thanks for the clarification to those who chimed in :-) Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Declaring Variables
On Nov 28, 2006, at 2:20 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: But the problem is not there : 1 - Look at the question Ah ha! Your mind reading powers are not as great as they once were! I was not answering, I was commenting. Your empathy for beginners has not lost any greatness, and that is commendable. BTW, the User Guide has a section on variables (5.5) that includes some examples. Whether that is suitable for beginners, you are better able to say than I. Thanks for keeping us on track. Dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution and the Web, feedback wanted, Part 1 of 3
I think it depends on the industry. The lest tech-savvy a customer is, the less likely a client will want to deploy a solution to that customer that requires downloading anything. It's not just that. There are other issues at play, too. 1) Sometimes it's nice to not have to open ANOTHER application to get something done. How many applications, business systems, etc. do we have to use? One for Personnel. One for Accounting. One for ERP. It gets to be really old after a while. Each one has a long load, too. 2) Deployment, and support and updates are a PAIN! For every application I have running in my organization, I have to maintain it. I have to load patches, updates, bug fixes, security updates, yadda, yadda, yadda. If the application runs over the web, I don't have that problem. All I have to worry about are client OS updates. 3) Can I run your application from home? Starbucks? The hotel? The answer is maybe, if you have a VPN, which is more crap I have to deal with as an IT manager, and more expense that I have to shoulder if I'm a VP. Does that mean that every manager thinks this way? No. However, once again, it's a hurdle. RR has some advantages in this realm, though. It is one of those tools that allows you to prototype something while you're still sitting at the conference table. That doesn't suck. However, it still won't run remotely...easily. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
How do I hide the menubar on OSX after starting an application like iTunes?
Hi there, I made a stack which hides, on startup, the menubar (and Dock) on OS X. On the stack there is just one button that starts iTunes. After starting iTunes the menubar and Dock are visible again till I quit iTunes. Is there a way to hide the dock and menubar after iTunes started? Greetings, William de Smet ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: get nesting level of controls
On Nov 29, 2006, at 11:54 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: But regardless, I'm still curious why last doesn't work with groups... I didn't know you could do 'last' with 'of'. dar ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution and the Web, feedback wanted, Part 1 of 3
I think it depends on the industry. The lest tech-savvy a customer is, the less likely a client will want to deploy a solution to that customer that requires downloading anything. Perhaps. I've had pretty good experience showing clients a competitor's web app, then something like i-Tunes. They pretty much get it right away. Of course it depends on what you're trying to accomplish. If you have a complex application, you probably get much more bang for the buck using a standalone interface than a AJAX'd stuffed web app. If you've got a very simple idea/product, like BackPackIt, then AJAX works fine-- though I would suggest that 37 signals could benefit from a client version of BaseCamp. You can certainly create a much more *compelling* and media rich UI in a standalone app. Try doing Google Earth in AJAX. BTW, and [OT], is it just me, or do these different AJAX and Java enabled web apps tend to crash each other? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution and the Web, feedback wanted, Part 1 of 3
Chipp wrote: ...though I would suggest that 37 signals could benefit from a client version of BaseCamp. Interesting idea. What a publicity boon for Rev if someone were to put one together. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
palette in RevMedia
Malte Brill wrote: So, no bug, but design decision. really! well, then that should have been clear from the on-board documentation. Naughty oversight there. frankly, in light of this, it appears that RevMedia is crippled to a point where the would-be purchaser has to juggle the attraction of the 4 template builders with the cripplings. Palettes are (at least to me) a super aspect of RR. I wonder (???) if RR would not be more sensible to backtrack to something like DreamCard with the templates? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. Its time to do Philosophy and stop worrying about what dead men said. Mathewson 2006 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Matchtext to find a series of words
I need a matchtext/regex that will find a series of words in a block of text, no matter whether they are together or not, and ignoring carriage returns. For example: See if all of these words: dog cat dinosaur are in this text: The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat.cr The white dog howled. Should return true. Is there such a thing? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Matchtext to find a series of words
I need a matchtext/regex that will find a series of words in a block of text, no matter whether they are together or not, and ignoring carriage returns. For example: See if all of these words: dog cat dinosaur are in this text: The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat.cr The white dog howled. Should return true. Is there such a thing? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Matchtext for multiple words
Sorry if this comes through twice, I'm having trouble sending to the list. I need a matchtext/regex that will tell me if all supplied words exist in a block of text, regardless of their order, and ignoring carriage returns. For example, see if all these words: dog dinosaur cat exist in this text: The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat.cr The white dog howled. Should return true. Is there such a thing? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How do I hide the menubar on OSX after starting an application like iTunes?
On 11/29/06 11:28 AM, William de Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, I made a stack which hides, on startup, the menubar (and Dock) on OS X. On the stack there is just one button that starts iTunes. After starting iTunes the menubar and Dock are visible again till I quit iTunes. Is there a way to hide the dock and menubar after iTunes started? My guess is that you could use applescript to tell the system to set the dock hiding to true. If you don't need to see the iTunes library window then tell iTunes app to hide IF you need to see iTunes library window but not the menu, you will likely need to tell Rev to activate, hide menu, then the stack could go invisible or off screen. If you want to make it pretty, then tell iTunes to show the visualizer(cmd-T) , full screen (cmd-F), which takes over the screen.. no menu, no dock. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext to find a series of words
On 11/29/06 3:26 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a matchtext/regex that will find a series of words in a block of text, no matter whether they are together or not, and ignoring carriage returns. For example: See if all of these words: dog cat dinosaur are in this text: The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat.cr The white dog howled. Should return true. Is there such a thing? Well, you can do this, but there may be a more efficient way: put (matchText(tText,(?si)\bdog\b) and \ matchText(tText,(?si)\bcat\b) and matchText(tText,(?si)\bdinosaur\b)) If I keep trying, maybe I can come up with a more efficient one-liner... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext for multiple words
Do you really need to do it with MatchText? Aren't is in, is among the words of etc going to work? Or do you really need it to be a one- liner? Best, Mark ps. That's the third one ;-0 On 29 Nov 2006, at 21:39, J. Landman Gay wrote: Sorry if this comes through twice, I'm having trouble sending to the list. I need a matchtext/regex that will tell me if all supplied words exist in a block of text, regardless of their order, and ignoring carriage returns. For example, see if all these words: dog dinosaur cat exist in this text: The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat.cr The white dog howled. Should return true. Is there such a thing? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext for multiple words
Hi Jacque, Are you sure you need a regex? ;-) function AreWordsIn pText,pWords repeat for each word tWord in pWords if space tWord space is not in pText then return false end repeat return true end AreWordsIn As this way of doing searches for words that are not in the text, it should be very fast... Le 29 nov. 06 à 22:39, J. Landman Gay a écrit : Sorry if this comes through twice, I'm having trouble sending to the list. I need a matchtext/regex that will tell me if all supplied words exist in a block of text, regardless of their order, and ignoring carriage returns. For example, see if all these words: dog dinosaur cat exist in this text: The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat.cr The white dog howled. Should return true. Is there such a thing? Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution and the Web, feedback wanted, Part 1 of 3
Just as a tie-in here, I don't mean to bash Morfik. It looks like an interesting technology. But as a startup business owner especially, you can't ignore certain things, like: 1) High licensing fees (even if they are discounted) for an unproven product 2) 6 years in development and no successful case studies outside of the company 3) Litigious activity (apparently they are trying to patent Java = Javascript compilation as if they invented it) 4) Bad review (the only one I could find): http://mudabone.com/aietc/? p=346 5) Google offers something similar which is actually running massively used services (Google Web Toolkit) It's not really retroactive. You owe the seat fee, as of the date when you start making money, subject to whatever actual deal you work out with them. They do state that they will work these terms out on a case by case basis with each startup. And yes, I would agree to this, because I have zero risk in trying it out. On top of that I can just take the Express version for FREE until I'm confident that it's going to work for me, then go Pro. Fair enough on the Express version. But if the express version if sufficient, what's the value of the startup deal? How about this analogy - it's basically a credit line. Eventually you owe the balance. If the license is perpetual, then it kind of is retroactive if you're paying the same money you would have upfront. Either way, definitely not free. By the time you have any money, you're still spending it on licenses. Credit lines can be good and bad, that's all. And since this arrangement is so unconventional, it may make business owners nervous. Worrying about the 1.0 version is a little odd when discussing a business decision broadly. No it's not. Have you ever run a startup, with your personal finances at risk? You don't think it's a major factor to risk your livelihood on a product that is unproven in the market? Maybe you evaluate the product and are satisfied, but the 1.0 factor has got to be considered when your business is on the line. First of all, the startup that is looking at this deal isn't even at .1 yet. Second, the price isn't $5,000. The 1.0 price is $1,748 until February or so, if I remember the dates correctly. I know - but it's just a promo price, so I don't know where it lies in the big picture with this product. And $1,748 is still a substantive professional license. The fact that the startup company doesn't have a product at all just hammers home the fact that they are at great risk already. Startups don't necessarily want to partner up with startup technology and amplify their already high risks. Thirdly, what would you say if they took $7,000 in stock options per seat instead of cash when you start generating revenue? I'd say, are you kidding me? I have to give away equity in my business to use a developer tool that exports industry standard code? That's insane! Would it be a good deal then? Finally, arguing that any pricing or any product is a worry because it is 1.0 does not make the product or the pricing a problem in even the medium term. If this was the deal and the product was 1.5 (which one would expect it will be sometime next year), would you still think it's a problem? My comments in regards to 1.0 are key for startups. More established businesses may be better prepared to counter the risk. But yeah, invested thousands of dollars per seat in professional licenses for a 1.0 product is a very risky move. I'm not saying it's fair to the vendor, especially if it's a great product. But it's reality. There's no guarantee that next year will yield 1.5. In fact, anyone who's dealt with startup vendors over the years knows there is a good chance that there won't be any new versions if they don't start selling licenses ASAP. The fact that they are offering heavily discounted licenses tells me that they aren't out of the woods yet. Yes, they are bundling in software that doesn't cost them anything (which means no license fee for SQL Server or Oracle). The thing that interests me, though is that they are hiding these components from me, and they are making it easy to detach them (if you decide to go Pro). I don't have to know how to configure Firebird or Apache, or write a bunch of Perl or PHP. I design my application the way I would if I were using any other RAD IDE, and when I compile it, Firebird and Apache are built in. The fact that Morfik apparently outputs a custom .exe file with the database and web server embedded sounds truly awful to me. So you're saying I can only run this on Windows, it won't scale, it won't conform to any normal Apache or Firebird documentation, I can't upgrade the web server or database without rebuilding my app, and I can't run this on 99% of the web hosts out there? Yes, you can do this in a variety of ways. I have not seen any implementations that _efficiently_ use
Re: Matchtext for multiple words
Jacque, I think the in any order part will make a single RegEx a nightmare (although it's probably technically possible). How about using something simple like (or scroll down for a non-RegEx idea) .*(dinosaur|dog|cat).* Then capture the actual text matched, and remove that from the expression. So in your example, you would first match dinosaur. Then you would run the RegEx again as: .*(dog|cat).* Which would match cat. Then finally: .*dog.* If you're not married to RegEx, you could just do something like this. It should be pretty speedy, as it uses array lookups, simple comparisons, and only one pass through your text. ## put the words into an array for quick lookup repeat for each word w in wordList put 0 into myWords[w] end repeat ## loop through your text and mark all of the words you find repeat for each word w in myText if (myWords[w] = 0) then put 1 into myWords[w] end if end repeat ## check that all of your words were marked with a 1 put TRUE into foundThemAll repeat for each word w in wordList if (myWords[w] 1) then put FALSE into foundThemAll exit repeat end if end repeat Sorry if this comes through twice, I'm having trouble sending to the list. I need a matchtext/regex that will tell me if all supplied words exist in a block of text, regardless of their order, and ignoring carriage returns. For example, see if all these words: dog dinosaur cat exist in this text: The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat.cr The white dog howled. Should return true. Is there such a thing? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext to find a series of words
On 11/29/06 1:26 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a matchtext/regex that will find a series of words in a block of text, no matter whether they are together or not, and ignoring carriage returns. For example: See if all of these words: dog cat dinosaur are in this text: The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat.cr The white dog howled. Should return true. Is there such a thing? I would tackle this using the filter command replace cr with tab in textStr set the wholematches to true filter textStr with * token1* filter textStr with * token2* filter textStr with * token3* if textStr is empty then return false else return true A better form would be function allWordsPresent textStr, wordList replace cr with tab in textStr set the wholematches to true repeat for each word WRD in wordList filter textStr with (* WRD *) end repeat return not (textStr is empty) end allWordsPresent regEx would be as follows the OR condition is \b(dog|cat|dinosaur)\b --where the \b says 'word boundary' to regEx the AND condition (?(?=condition)(then1|then2|then3)|(else1|else2|else3)) --major drawback is that you would have to structure the exact number of words to check [you used 3 in your example] and also be scanned multiple times 9starting with the hit fo 'dog') since you would be trying 4 combinations. RegEx would stop looking as soon as one of these tested TRUE. dog +positive lookbehind (?=cat + positive lookbehind (?=dinosaur) dog +positive lookahead (?=cat + positive lookbehind (?=dinosaur) dog +positive lookahead (?=cat + positive lookahead (?=dinosaur) dog +positive lookbehind (?=cat + positive lookahead (?=dinosaur) -- where if any of these = true, then return TRUE, else FALSE the filter command is far easier to build and debug, and is likely faster than the complex regex positive lookahead/behind algorithm Someone more conversant in regEx my show a better solution and be the better answer to your question. Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext for multiple words
Mark Smith wrote: Do you really need to do it with MatchText? Aren't is in, is among the words of etc going to work? Or do you really need it to be a one-liner? Best, Mark ps. That's the third one ;-0 Yeah, I noticed that, and I'm not sure how it happened. I only sent one, then waited an hour or so. Then I changed the outgoing server I was using and sent again. Then three of them showed up. I didn't do it! ;) Anyway, thanks to Ken, Eric, and yourself for the suggestions. I probably didn't explain enough. If I were only checking a single block of text then I'd use some of the built-in commands, but I have to loop through a couple of zillion blocks. So I figured matchtext would be faster if, hopefully, I could issue a single command for each lookup. If I have to do multiple lookups for each text block, then I end up with: if dinosaur is in tText and dog is in tText and cat is in tText and that would require 3 times the number of lookups over a single matchtext. Also, the number of words can vary so I'd have to construct a repeat loop to build the command itself, and use a do statement to execute it -- and both of those are slow. But if I'm wrong, I'd like to know. Has anyone done any speed tests on this stuff? Basically I need the fastest possible way to scan a large number of text blocks for an indefinite number of words which occur in any portion of the text. I'll try Ken's thing too -- thanks Ken. (I'll send this once and cross my fingers.) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext for multiple words
Although you can invert character matching using [^ ... , I don't think there's an equivalent for words. You could have used; (is)\b(cat|dinosaur|dog)\b.*\b_(cat|dinosaur|dog)\b ... if there was a way to say 'not beginning with the first match' where the underscore appears in the above - then it would be possible to do a quick 1 liner regex - we can use '\1' to back reference the first match. :-( J. Landman Gay wrote: Sorry if this comes through twice, I'm having trouble sending to the list. I need a matchtext/regex that will tell me if all supplied words exist in a block of text, regardless of their order, and ignoring carriage returns. For example, see if all these words: dog dinosaur cat exist in this text: The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat.cr The white dog howled. Should return true. Is there such a thing? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext for multiple words
On 11/29/06 5:07 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if dinosaur is in tText and dog is in tText and cat is in tText and that would require 3 times the number of lookups over a single matchtext. Plus, it would match paragraphs with catastrophe, doggedly, muscat, etc., which you may also not want. Also, the number of words can vary so I'd have to construct a repeat loop to build the command itself, and use a do statement to execute it -- and both of those are slow. But if I'm wrong, I'd like to know. Has anyone done any speed tests on this stuff? Basically I need the fastest possible way to scan a large number of text blocks for an indefinite number of words which occur in any portion of the text. I'll try Ken's thing too -- thanks Ken. :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext to find a series of words
Jim Ault wrote: I would tackle this using the filter command replace cr with tab in textStr set the wholematches to true filter textStr with * token1* filter textStr with * token2* filter textStr with * token3* if textStr is empty then return false else return true A better form would be function allWordsPresent textStr, wordList replace cr with tab in textStr set the wholematches to true repeat for each word WRD in wordList filter textStr with (* WRD *) end repeat return not (textStr is empty) end allWordsPresent This looks promising, thanks. It looks like there is no single-pass method, but since filter is pretty fast it may do okay. I didn't even quote your regex explanation, I don't want to touch it. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext for multiple words
On 11/29/06 1:39 PM, J. Landman Gay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a matchtext/regex that will tell me if all supplied words exist in a block of text, regardless of their order, and ignoring carriage returns. For example, see if all these words: dog dinosaur cat exist in this text: The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat.cr The white dog howled. Should return true. Is there such a thing? Since Rev says cat and cat. are different words, punctuation poses a problem. Here's an approach that's simple and fast but depends on the programmer to include a replace statement for each punctuation mark. -- Dick on mouseUp put put The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat. cr \ The white dog howled. into tText put dog dinosaur cat into tWords putLines textContainsAllWords(tText,tWords) end mouseUp function textContainsAllWords tText,pWords replace . with space in tText replace , with space in tText repeat for each word tWord in tText put 1 into tArray[tWord] end repeat repeat for each word tWord in pWords if tArray[tWord] is empty then return false end repeat return true end textContainsAllWords ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: palette in RevMedia
I think you should still Bugzilla it, with the idea a more descriptive message, like, Not permitted in Media is returned. Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Malte Brill wrote: So, no bug, but design decision. really! well, then that should have been clear from the on-board documentation. Naughty oversight there. frankly, in light of this, it appears that RevMedia is crippled to a point where the would-be purchaser has to juggle the attraction of the 4 template builders with the cripplings. Palettes are (at least to me) a super aspect of RR. I wonder (???) if RR would not be more sensible to backtrack to something like DreamCard with the templates? sincerely, Richmond Mathewson. Its time to do Philosophy and stop worrying about what dead men said. Mathewson 2006 Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext for multiple words
I still think it's working ok - someone slap me if I'm wrong. The (?! is looking ahead and saying 'you can't begin with. (?!\1) - you can't begin with the first match (?!\1|\2) - you can't begin with the 1st or second match JC J. Landman Gay wrote: Sorry if this comes through twice, I'm having trouble sending to the list. I need a matchtext/regex that will tell me if all supplied words exist in a block of text, regardless of their order, and ignoring carriage returns. For example, see if all these words: dog dinosaur cat exist in this text: The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat.cr The white dog howled. Should return true. Is there such a thing? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext to find a series of words
This looks promising, thanks. It looks like there is no single-pass method, but since filter is pretty fast it may do okay. Not sure how robust my stab was, but I do think that algorithmically one-pass is definitely possible. You just need to pass through the text once, and cross off each word as you find it. If everything is crossed off when you're done, then you're done =). HTH - Brian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext for multiple words
John Craig wrote: -- build the whole damn regex LOL! I know exactly what you mean. I'll test this. I'm building a test suite of all the responses and will report here what I find. So far, I'm surprised at the results. I'm kind of pleased with this whole thread. Scripting contests are cool. We should make it a monthly affair. And a script to create the regex from a word list. My apologies if this stuff turns out useless - but you can get absorbed in this mince... on mouseUp -- string to search * SHOULD MATCH put The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat. return The white dog howled. into tString -- DUFF string to search ** SHOULD NOT MATCH put The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat. return The white dinosaur howled. into tString2 -- words to find put cat,dinosaur,dog into tWords -- build the pattern to match the words put ( into tWordsPattern repeat for each item tWord in tWords put tWord | after tWordsPattern end repeat put ) into char -1 of tWordsPattern -- build the whole damn regex put num of items in tWords into tTotalWords put 0 into tCurrentWord put (?is) into tRegex repeat for each item tWord in tWords add 1 to tCurrentWord put \b after tRegex if tCurrentWord 1 then put (?! after tRegex repeat with i = 1 to tCurrentWord - 1 put \ i | after tRegex end repeat delete char -1 of tRegex put ) after tRegex end if put tWordsPattern \b after tRegex if tCurrentWord tTotalWords then put .* after tRegex end if end repeat -- test our regex against the 2 test strings put matchText(tString, tRegex) return matchText(tString2, tRegex) end mouseUp John Craig wrote: I still think it's working ok - someone slap me if I'm wrong. The (?! is looking ahead and saying 'you can't begin with. (?!\1) - you can't begin with the first match (?!\1|\2) - you can't begin with the 1st or second match JC J. Landman Gay wrote: Sorry if this comes through twice, I'm having trouble sending to the list. I need a matchtext/regex that will tell me if all supplied words exist in a block of text, regardless of their order, and ignoring carriage returns. For example, see if all these words: dog dinosaur cat exist in this text: The purple dinosaur inadvertently stepped on the cat.cr The white dog howled. Should return true. Is there such a thing? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Custom Properties Lookup Table
Sorry - the following line should have been deleted from the example; put the scaledScore[memory] of field data1 into theMatch2 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext for multiple words
John Craig wrote: And a script to create the regex from a word list. My apologies if this stuff turns out useless - but you can get absorbed in this mince... I passed three random words to your script (list,house,dog) and got this regex from it: (?is)\b(list|house|dog)\b\b(?!\1)(list|house|dog)\b\b(?!\1|\2)(list|house|dog)\b My test then goes through a bunch of text files on disk and applies the regex to the text of each file like this: put matchText(tText, tRegex) into tMatch I don't get any matches though, and my knowledge of regex is too limited for me to know if I'm doing something wrong. Does this look right to you? I think there should have been at least 2 matching files (that's what some of the other scripts produced.) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
too many fields, too many cards?
A long time ago, I complained to bugzilla that the native RR search stack is way too slow. Personally, I've found ways to work around that. I still think it's an unnecessary embarrassment for RR, that wouldn't be very hard to fix. But, that's not why I called. Someone made this comment about my complaint. I don't doubt the constructive spirit of the comment, but I have a few questions about it. The comment, in part: Then again, one should not store data in fields on 100s of cards. Instead, store your data in a custom property or a text file. Although the search stack could be greatly improved by making it much simpler, the problem is mainly caused by the approach chosen by the programmer. My reply, in part: I have a stack called Patient information. The purpose is obvious. For each patient, there are dozens of items I need to keep track of -- more than 100, really. Name, address, various phones, diagnosis, referring MD, referring MD's ID number, patient's ID number, group number, account number, employer, etc. That's only a representative sample. I do a lot of complex chores with this stack, so there are at least fifty bg buttons, too. At any given time, I have records on maybe 500 patients. The stack works fine in every respect, except the RR search stack is way too slow. I've written several of my own specialized search scripts for this stack and others. They meet my needs and are plenty fast. I avoid the native Search stack. A field for each item and a card for each patient is the only way I know how to do what I need to do. I guess the alternative is to use a database, with SQL inquiries. That would be faster, once I made the conversion, but this stack started as HyperCard and has grown and evolved over many years. I can't afford to spend the time to re-write it from scratch, and learn how to use a database and SQL along the way. It would take a hundred hours, or more. I guess you're suggesting the stack could read from a custom property or a text file to fill in the fields in just one card, based on a unique identifier for each patient. That's not too much different from a database inquiry, if I understand you. I guess I could search faster that way, in theory, but otherwise, I don't see the advantage. My question: Have I understood the general idea here? Am I overlooking anything fundamental? Is it reasonable to leave well enough alone, as long as I can find stuff in stacks this large, when I need to? Thanks in advance, Tim ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext for multiple words
J. Landman Gay wrote: John Craig wrote: And a script to create the regex from a word list. My apologies if this stuff turns out useless - but you can get absorbed in this mince... I passed three random words to your script (list,house,dog) and got this regex from it: Here is the correct regex I get when I substitute your new words into the script (check that list is passed as list|house|dog) (?is)\b(list|house|dog)\b.*\b(?!\1)(list|house|dog)\b.*\b(?!\1|\2)(list|house|dog)\b a few bits missing from the one below! (?is)\b(list|house|dog)\b\b(?!\1)(list|house|dog)\b\b(?!\1|\2)(list|house|dog)\b My test then goes through a bunch of text files on disk and applies the regex to the text of each file like this: put matchText(tText, tRegex) into tMatch I don't get any matches though, and my knowledge of regex is too limited for me to know if I'm doing something wrong. Does this look right to you? I think there should have been at least 2 matching files (that's what some of the other scripts produced.) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Custom Properties Lookup Table
Hi Charles, Others have posted solutions, so I'll focus on what happened. I could be wrong, but I believe Rev looked at this part of your script: if item 1 of theMatch and item 2 of theMatch and item 3 of theMatch = item 1 of theMatch2 and item 2 of theMatch2 and item 3 of theMatch2 then put item 4 of theMatch2 into field ssFld end if .. and thought this is what you meant (weird spacing added to improve readability): if ( (item 1 of theMatch = true) \ and (item 2 of theMatch = true) \ and (item 3 of theMatch = true) ) \ = ( (item 1 of theMatch2 = true) \ and (item 2 of theMatch2 = true) \ and (item 3 of theMatch2 = true) ) then put item 4 of theMatch2 into field ssFld end if So everything before the = resolves to 'false', as does the entire part after the =. So the conditions ultimately resolve to: if (false) = (false) then put item 4 of theMatch2 into field ssFld end if So item 4 of theMatch2 would be put into field ssFld every time. Is that consistent with the results you were getting? Thanks - Phil Davis Charles Szasz wrote: I have set up a custom property set (scaledScore) for a field (data1), with custom properties (memory) and property contents listed below: 51,1,0,4,2 51,1,1,5,5 51,1,2,6,9 51,1,3,7,16 51,1,4,7,16 51,1,5,7,16 51,1,6,8,25 51,1,7,8,25 51,1,8,8,25 The first row of the 51,1,0,4,2 above represents: age (51), followed by the number of the subtest (1), raw score (0), scaled score (4), percentile (2) I have been working on a handler to take input from the user for age (tage), subtest field (field subFld, raw score (field rsFld). After the user enters the age, subtest number, raw score, the scaled score appears in the field ssFld after it is look up in the custom properties. on mouseUp put 51 into tage put tAge,field subFld,field rsFld into theMatch put the scaledScore[memory] of field data1 into theMatch2 if item 1 of theMatch and item 2 of theMatch and item 3 of theMatch = item 1 of theMatch2 and item 2 of theMatch2 and item 3 of theMatch2 then put item 4 of theMatch2 into field ssFld end if end mouseUp This script does not work and no errors appear in Rev IDE. Can anyone help me with this problem? Charles Szasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Copying many cds to a stack causes standalone to hang
Thanks Jim, (and to Paul Looney ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) who also proposed a database/imported pic solution). Product info (description, pricing) is indeed kept in the one file and imported into a fld. Similarly customer (reseller) info is located in an odbc database for company reps (there's both a rep and reseller version of this app). The only searching of cds is when a user wants to 'go to' a particular catalogue card and focus on one the products. Other types of product searches simply parse the product info fld display a list. Unfortunately the die is cast with respect to catalogue format - it's in the client's layout. I have seen warehousing programs ( of course there's lots of websites) where a search, index or link will display product info pics with a consistent format but that's not what the client wanted. So the loc of the product pics their associated btns vary considerably from page to page (actually the loc of the page pic doesn't vary but the associated product btns are all over the place. Since that's really the only variation I suppose I could store all the page pics in a folder, keep the product btn rects in a fld and have rev create the catalogue pages on demand. Instead I've simply made each page into a cd and stopped at that. At the moment I'm still thinking brand stacks with many prefab pages, opened as required. Your help and suggestions are much appreciated. Many Thanks, Steve Denney -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Ault Sent: Tuesday, 28 November 2006 8:42 AM To: How to use Revolution Subject: Re: Copying many cds to a stack causes standalone to hang On 11/27/06 1:58 PM, Steve Denney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi PL, The app is a catalogue where users can view pics of the products click on them to order (amongst other things). Currently each product page (card) is kept in a single cd stack file and all the pages are copied into one stack at start up. I've now realized it'll be better to have collections of product pages (by brand) in fewer stacks with many cards. I also thought cross brand searching and movement between cds would be made easier by having all the cards present in the one open stack. Now I'm considering keeping each brand collection in its own stack (i.e. no copying of cds - not that I'm not immensely grateful for the effort everyone's put in and finding out the true nature of the 'start using' command :) And opening and searching each 'brand' stack only as required. My feeling is the latter will work just as well (without waiting for Loading catalogues... on openStack), or (as you point out) having to deal with a huge unwieldy stack, especially if I don't bother to encrypt the catalogue pages. All comments and suggestion most welcome. You should consider some other way of doing the brand differences, view pic, and searching. Looks like a lot for Rev to do, but Rev is extremely fast at this. For example, 1 card per brand using 1 group that behaves like a background that is on all brand cards name each card with the brand name, then on preopencard set the label of btn brandLogo to the short name of this card set icon of btn brandLogo to 23009 -- importing a png or jpg into the stack will result in -- Rev assigning an ID set the rect of btn brandLogo to rect set the script of btn brandLogo to snippet set the text of btn modelDropDown to list of models set the label of btn modelDropDown to line 1 of list of models put line 1 of fld hiddenData1 into fld vizModelNumber put line 2 of fld hiddenData1 into fld vizPrice put line 3 of fld hiddenData1 into fld vizInStock put line 4 of fld hiddenData1 into fld vizShippingCost put line 5 of fld hiddenData1 into fld vizTaxNotice put line 6 to -1 of fld hiddenData1 into fld vizDescription get line 1 to 5 of fld hiddenData1 replace cr with tab in it put it into line 1 of fld vizTableColumn get line 1 to 5 of fld hiddenData2 replace cr with tab in it put it into line 2 of fld vizTableColumn get line 1 to 5 of fld hiddenData3 replace cr with tab in it put it into line 3 of fld vizTableColumn How many items are you displaying? If you are doing a catalog, espcially if it needs frequent updating, then consider using a database such as SQL How many scripts are you using? Where are they located? Jim Ault Las Vegas ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: too many fields, too many cards?
On 30 Nov 2006, at 01:48, Timothy Miller wrote: I guess you're suggesting the stack could read from a custom property or a text file to fill in the fields in just one card, based on a unique identifier for each patient. That's not too much different from a database inquiry, if I understand you. I guess I could search faster that way, in theory, but otherwise, I don't see the advantage. My question: Have I understood the general idea here? Am I overlooking anything fundamental? Is it reasonable to leave well enough alone, as long as I can find stuff in stacks this large, when I need to? I think you've understood the suggestion perfectly. My own approach would be to store the data for each patient in an customPropertySet, which is really an array (each one named the same as the patient, maybe, and each key of which I'd name the same as the field you're currently using), so to populate a single card stack: on showPatient patientName put the customProperties[patientName] of me into tPatientArray repeat for each line K in the keys of tPatientArray put tPatientArray[K] into fld K end repeat end showPatient and to store, after making changes on storePatient patientName repeat for with n = 1 to the number of flds put fld n into patientArray[the short name of fld n] end repeat set the customProperties[patientName] of me to patientArray end storePatient Something like this, anyway. But if it's working well for you as it is, then? Best, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Matchtext for multiple words
John Craig wrote: Oops. I meant to say - check the list is passed as list,dog,house (comma separated, and without parenthesis) Yeah, that was the problem. I was altering the scripts from the list so they would fit into my tests and I didn't change yours right. Now that I've made the correction it works fine. Thanks for the pointer, that was exactly what was wrong. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: too many fields, too many cards?
Mark Smith wrote: On 30 Nov 2006, at 01:48, Timothy Miller wrote: I guess you're suggesting the stack could read from a custom property or a text file to fill in the fields in just one card, based on a unique identifier for each patient. That's not too much different from a database inquiry, if I understand you. I guess I could search faster that way, in theory, but otherwise, I don't see the advantage. My question: Have I understood the general idea here? Am I overlooking anything fundamental? Is it reasonable to leave well enough alone, as long as I can find stuff in stacks this large, when I need to? I think you've understood the suggestion perfectly. My own approach would be to store the data for each patient in an customPropertySet But that would make searching across the patient base even harder, wouldn't it? He might end up having to ask about matchtext or something... -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Custom Properties Lookup Table
This is using the FILTER command and a wild card pattern on mouseUp put 51 into tage put comma into c put * tAge c fld subFld c fld rsFld c * into pattn get (the scaledScore[memory] of field data1) filter it with pattn -- put item 4 of it into field ssFld (not yet) --now check the result if the number of lines in it 1 then answer multiple hits of cr \ it cr cr \ using pattn else if the number of lines in it 1 then answer Nothing matches cr pattn else put item 4 of it into field ssFld end if end mouseUp Jim Ault Las Vegas Charles Szasz wrote: I have set up a custom property set (scaledScore) for a field (data1), with custom properties (memory) and property contents listed below: 51,1,0,4,2 51,1,1,5,5 51,1,2,6,9 51,1,3,7,16 51,1,4,7,16 51,1,5,7,16 51,1,6,8,25 51,1,7,8,25 51,1,8,8,25 The first row of the 51,1,0,4,2 above represents: age (51), followed by the number of the subtest (1), raw score (0), scaled score (4), percentile (2) I have been working on a handler to take input from the user for age (tage), subtest field (field subFld, raw score (field rsFld). After the user enters the age, subtest number, raw score, the scaled score appears in the field ssFld after it is look up in the custom properties. on mouseUp put 51 into tage put tAge,field subFld,field rsFld into theMatch put the scaledScore[memory] of field data1 into theMatch2 if item 1 of theMatch and item 2 of theMatch and item 3 of theMatch = item 1 of theMatch2 and item 2 of theMatch2 and item 3 of theMatch2 then put item 4 of theMatch2 into field ssFld end if end mouseUp This script does not work and no errors appear in Rev IDE. Can anyone help me with this problem? Charles Szasz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: jscard
Yeah, because I seem to recall it being up on the HC list some time ago, and nobody complained there about it not working (not that I checked it, mind you...). Judy On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Jan Schenkel wrote: The second link I sent yesterday did work - perhaps they've taken it down after all us Revolutionaries hit the server really hard ;-) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Alternating Lines in a listbox
Try this. Hi Jim, Yes. Works beautifully. :-) Scott ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
