Re: core image transitions
Thanks for all the answers. It looks like Scott is right and only the transitions work. Alas I hope the others will become available as well. Well, it looks like I have to figure out some other scheme. Fortunatly the whole concept is still in the making so everything is still open. David, off course you are invited to come and see, in fact all off you are. It will be sometime after he holliday's, I don't know yet the exact date. It will be here in Hal 4 in Rotterdam, the Netherlands. For all those who can't make it to the Netherlands, when I have a nice demo I will try to put something on revOnLine. (depending on the size of the images etc.) Thank you all and best wishes Claudi ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
the pencil
Well, the fact that there is some anniversary for pencils made in The United States of America (that is what I take Mark Weider to mean; as most citizens of the USA forget about the other American countries in their rush to take over the world) is nothing special: and as a Scot who, like most Scots labours under the impression that everything was invented in Scotland - I have to confess that pencils seem to have been invented in England: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil No doubt there are also anniversaries in Canada (which is an American country) for the first kilt sewn in the Yukon, and the first Gumbo served in Prince Edward Island; but the modest Canadians forebear! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ All New Yahoo! Mail Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Auto-update architecture on Windows...dealing with bulk
On Windows, and am using the auto-update architecture, i.e. a compiled auto-loader app that pulls non-compiled main stack updates from the network. I have two questions that I would like advice on. -1- How to optimize the bulk: Given that the auto-loader should avoid having to update itself, and given then that the main stack constitutes the baggage that has to be schlepped around, does it not make sense to remove hefty and unlikely-to-change elements from the main stack and put them into the auto-loader? For example, UI image elements that add a lot to the file size of the main stack could instead be anchored in the auto-loader. In other words, what are the ramifications to me saying: If element X will not change, put it into the auto-loader half. -2- How do I distribute this architecture on CD, without requiring that the user be connected to the network. In the non-CD delivery, I state that first use requires connectivity. But I would like the ability to provide the entire thing on disk as well. Do I need an installer that wraps everything? Thanks. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
well, the airplane was invented by a brazilian while he was in paris, and by airplane I mean something heavier than air that lift itself and propel itself by its own means and is controllable but again, most americans think they invented the airplane. Sometimes, I wonder how weird must be an american history book. At least here credit is where credit is due, england invented football, not brazil... From the mail Mark sent, in the URL there was some centuries old pencil from some guy named Faber, here I use Faber Castell pencils, is this the same guy? :-O Just like Levis jeans, when I finally learned where that brand come from, I was amazed how things can survive age it's morning here, I need more coffee, which also was not invented in Brazil but we take it as the national drink anyway and talking about coffee, is very hard to drink real world strong coffee overseas. In the US it tastes like water or it is flavoured, in england it's beer and they serve it by the pint, could never find coffee but always found guinness. In paris it was coffee but it was priced as gold here, on a simple bakery, a little cup of coffee, good coffee costs about 13 US Cents and thats what I need now.. actually, I want a cappuccino which I don't know where it was invented but I learned to like in the U.S. by going to starbucks (and my father said: that. is. not. coffee.) Good morning to all, it's actually pleasant to wake up and say hello to my favorite list. Cheers andre On 7/3/07, Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, the fact that there is some anniversary for pencils made in The United States of America (that is what I take Mark Weider to mean; as most citizens of the USA forget about the other American countries in their rush to take over the world) is nothing special: and as a Scot who, like most Scots labours under the impression that everything was invented in Scotland - I have to confess that pencils seem to have been invented in England: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pencil No doubt there are also anniversaries in Canada (which is an American country) for the first kilt sewn in the Yukon, and the first Gumbo served in Prince Edward Island; but the modest Canadians forebear! sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ All New Yahoo! Mail – Tired of unwanted email come-ons? Let our SpamGuard protect you. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Automatic mail send (RevMail?)
Shao Sean library works great. My library which is available on RevOnline is to be used on just one case, when you don't have SMTP configuration available so it acts as the SMTP mailer, this works with some servers but don't work with others because some server will do a reverse MX records check in the IP that is sending the email to see if it can be a SMTP mailer, which usually it can't, so the mail will be rejected as span. I use my library for I know that .Mac allows anything thru and I am using it only to send email to me :-) For error reporting, I don't recommend sending email from the app but using a CGI call that act as a conduit to the email. Firewalls or complex networks make sending emails not the most trivial task in the world, it's better to use something like: post TheErrorReport to URL TheErrorCGIURL And this CGI can then dispatch the mail for you. This way you have a clear and flexible solution, for example, what happens when you change emails or are overquota with a solution that simply sends emails, you can't patch everyone. I recommend using a CGI. Also with the CGI approach you can gather statistical data and mine this data for stuff to achieve your goals. Cheers andre On 7/2/07, Mark Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an app which uses Shao Seans libSmtp to send email everyday, and it's been working perfectly for at least a year. Best, Mark On 2 Jul 2007, at 18:57, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Beynon, Rob wrote: Any ideas about sending an email automatically? (I will program the entire content, including the body in plain text). Andre Garzia wrote a mail stack (SMTP Raw) some time ago that handles mail within Rev (no external mail app needed). I don't see his stack posted anywhere but you could email him. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, Shao Sean has written a stack called libEmail (perhaps this is now called SMTP Library?) which I haven't used but also might be an option. http://shaosean.tk Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
From: Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] At least here credit is where credit is due, england invented football, not brazil... You mean soccer. Football is really a game called Aussy Rules where by we take the ball and *kick it*. Bouncing it on your head would be very painful and possibly fatal. vbg Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Auto-update architecture on Windows...dealing with bulk
Hello Mark, the solutions to this are many, I'll tell you what my current approach is. First minimal loader, no code or elements but the ones needed for loading the mainstack and a possible version check of the loader itself that may prompt the user to download a new loader in case you need an updated engine. The problem is what to do when the user is not connected or how to deploy that application in non networked environments. What I do is that I have a library here that downloads cache my files, so if there's no connection, I simply loaded the cached files, if there's a connection, I check versions, if they are the same, I load the cached versions, I only try to update in the case there's a network and an update available. So to distribute on CD, I can simply include the cached files folder (actually, you need to put some check to see if you can write to disk before attempting an update, I haven't tackled the problem of cds yet). so you can load more than one stack over the network, I work with a bill of materials stack that has a list of downloadable components and their versions. you can put all your art in a single stack and the code in other, this way you can update code without updating huge art stacks. Compressing the stacks is a wise decision because saves bandwidth. Andre On 7/3/07, Mark E. Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Windows, and am using the auto-update architecture, i.e. a compiled auto-loader app that pulls non-compiled main stack updates from the network. I have two questions that I would like advice on. -1- How to optimize the bulk: Given that the auto-loader should avoid having to update itself, and given then that the main stack constitutes the baggage that has to be schlepped around, does it not make sense to remove hefty and unlikely-to-change elements from the main stack and put them into the auto-loader? For example, UI image elements that add a lot to the file size of the main stack could instead be anchored in the auto-loader. In other words, what are the ramifications to me saying: If element X will not change, put it into the auto-loader half. -2- How do I distribute this architecture on CD, without requiring that the user be connected to the network. In the non-CD delivery, I state that first use requires connectivity. But I would like the ability to provide the entire thing on disk as well. Do I need an installer that wraps everything? Thanks. Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
I think it is only called soccer in the US and that the rest of the world called it football. But we're talking of the game that involves two groups of players chasing a little ball with nike making millions. you know, we call soccer an art form in here, in some cases it's a martial art form, the last time I played I lost a shirt and a watch during the play... I still remember the referee yelling to someone: no, you can't put your foot as high as the head of the other player, no matter if he is shorter than you! And for those that are not into soccer in here, there's money to be made with soccer fans. Check www.joga.com it's a social network for soccer fans. Also check games like Elifoot (old) and Championship Manager, both could be done in Rev and they sell nice figures. For example here there's what is called pelada which is the same word as used for the naked form but used in the sense of a field without grass. People will often play pelada which means they are gathering a group of very non professional players and playing in an impromptu field. Like kids do. This is how people play here. Now, some guys created a website called peladeiro.com where you can register your team, enroll in leagues and championships. The website keeps scores, statistics, photos and the like. The basic idea of the site is to arrange matches between the teams, but it also hosts a nice social network. this website made the news all over Brazil, they have thousands of teams, leagues, championships. it was not hard to create and it has a huge public. There's in Manaus a championship called Peladão (ão in portuguese means big) where 522 teams compete against each other. Each team has it's queen and a miss peladão championship also takes place, both competitions are linked so if a team is loosing but his miss is favored by the public, the team goes back to the top of the chart and is back on the game! 11 players and a miss! :-D now imagine, manaus is jungle, too near the amazon. 522 teams, 522 beautiful queens, in the jungle competing in a field that is more mud than grass... there are things, only Brazil will do for you! PS: I never been to manaus, it's cheaper to go to florida also, my father who worked there for a while told me you need to sign non aggression agreements with the mosquitos or they will take you away at night so many they are. Andre On 7/3/07, Scott Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] At least here credit is where credit is due, england invented football, not brazil... You mean soccer. Football is really a game called Aussy Rules where by we take the ball and *kick it*. Bouncing it on your head would be very painful and possibly fatal. vbg Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
From: Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think it is only called soccer in the US and that the rest of the world called it football. LOL. I know what you are intending to say - but for the record g - last I checked Australia and New Zealand where part of the world and we do call Soccer Soccer and not Football. We have three codes here. Aussy Rules. Rugby (two distinct codes of rugger) and Soccer. ;-) Anyway - as long as you know I'm just teasing and not at all serious. ;) Scott Kane` ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
From: Richmond Mathewson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I shall raise the idea of RR selling Runtime Revolution 2.0 at a greatly reduced rate for the have-not-so-muches. Actually... I was thinking the other day it'd be kind of cool if there was a version that compiled but did not contain extras like database support etc. Something in between Media and Studio to attract those wanting cross platform but who aren't ready to commit to heavily. Golly! Am I agree with Richmond Thane of Scotland? ebwg Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
the pencil
I spent 3 years in Illinois and the only thing that I would call coffee I found there was what I boiled in my saucepan - with cardamon. The Bulgarians make coffee that would probably make the average US citizens eyes water somewhat. However, my taste in coffee developed in various Arabic countries where I have worked (hence the cardamon). As to pencils: well at the moment in my language school we provide the children with a choice of Turkish, Taiwanese or Indonesian - mainly because they are cheap: and poor people can never afford to be picky! Now, as we are on the Runtime Revolution use-list and one wouldn't want to get too far off-topic: I shall raise the idea of RR selling Runtime Revolution 2.0 at a greatly reduced rate for the have-not-so-muches. sincerely, Richmond Mathewson A Thorn in the flesh is better than a failed Systems Development Life Cycle. ___ Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=44106/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/mail/winter07.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Auto-update architecture on Windows...dealing with bulk
Hi Andre: Good information. Couple of more questions: -1- On first use, do you require connectivity in order to cache the main stack? I assume yes, right? -2- In the BOM stack approach, how do you control versioning and dependency? (i.e. resource stack X must be downloaded with widget Y, otherwise the app doesn't operate). Is there a best practice on how to avoid mismatches with 'modularized' main stacks? Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Auto-update architecture on Windows...dealing with bulk
Mark, I am no expert on such issues but my best answers are: -1- You can bundle a copy of your main stack with your installer, so you have an environment with all the needed files for the first run. -2- The way I do is using order of download, dependencies are downloaded before the stuff that depended on them. Since I use a queue of files to be downloaded, that ensures that when something has a dependency, that file will already be in place when the actual file arrives. As for versioning, I don't have much experience on versioning different components, I usually just change mainstack and libraries, I keep them all with the same version number. I though of this architecture but I didn't needed it yet. You need to keep a clear architecture, if your mainstack depends on three other library stacks, two of which are updated, you simply download them and control the release using the BOM. I cache the BOM file too, so for a given release, I know all the files and all the versions, if something is wrong, I just need to fetch the files again. Caching the BOM files also allow you to rollback to any version you want, it's just a matter of downloading the files again. For this to work, you need to make all the files available, so you can use folders on your server for example /1.0/mainstack.rev /1.5/mainstack.rev So for a given release, you have all your metadata on a BOM file and a server that is organized to allow you to download any release at will. This architecture allows for simple versioning and remember since you're loading stacks, you can use preOpenStack or something to check for further dependencies. what about this? Andre On 7/3/07, Mark E. Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andre: Good information. Couple of more questions: -1- On first use, do you require connectivity in order to cache the main stack? I assume yes, right? -2- In the BOM stack approach, how do you control versioning and dependency? (i.e. resource stack X must be downloaded with widget Y, otherwise the app doesn't operate). Is there a best practice on how to avoid mismatches with 'modularized' main stacks? Thanks, Mark ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
Richmond- Well, the fact that there is some anniversary for pencils made in The United States of America (that is what I take Mark Weider to mean; as most citizens of the USA forget about the other American countries in their rush to take over the world) is nothing special: Finding myself hoist on my own petard (I'm usually the one taking people to task for that error of chauvanistic syntax) I shall attempt to redeem myself by claiming that the machine invented in 1812 was no doubt the first pencil-making machine in the Americas as a whole; and that brought about only because the US could no longer import its pencils from England, seeing as how we were at war and all. I have to confess that pencils seem to have been invented in England: This is indeed true (1560 is the date I've heard, but I suppose nobody really can pin it down that closely). There's a wonderful book by Henry Petroski called (of all things) The Pencil, which should be required reading for anyone interested in the history of engineering. -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
soccer (was pencil)
...and for no apparent reason, I felt like telling the world that those of us unfortunate enough not to be attending the Copa America in person can still catch the live webcasts: http://www.univision.com/contentroot/uol/30deportes/content/jhtml/copa_america/NOMETA_partidosEnVivo.jhtml -- Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Revolution Freezing or Quitting Unexpectedly
Hi, I have a similar problem, e.g. a crash/quit and it's inside QuickTime too. Are you using a player or making use of the export snapshot command? I have this problem on the following machines: G5, G4, G4 PowerBook all running 10.4.10. All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
switch - case works different on Win-Mac !?
Hello all, I am struggeling with a mysterious problem, where a mac standalone calls different handlers as a win standalone in a switch structure, build on Win with 2.8.1. I have one big switch structure on stack level to handle all button ups. It looks like this, nothing sophisticated: switch (tTarget) -- some more cases case btnBildKopieren if the cpTest of this stack is true then answer Test 1 -- calling some handlers break case btnBildSpeichern if the cpTest of this stack is true then answer Test 2 -- calling some handlers break case btnBildEinfügen if the cpTest of this stack is true then answer Test 3 -- calling some handlers break -- some more cases end switch This worked perfect on Win, but now testing on Mac more than one case structure is executed (at least it seems so, because the result is as if so), though I have a break in each case. Because I dont have a Mac for testing, I integrated the above test answers to see which way the handler goes. So I set a custom property cpTest to true to get the answers to follow the execution. Now the funny thing happens. When activating the test answers, everything works OK on Mac as on Win. Once I set the cpTest property to false and I dont get the answer dialogs, the program brings the unwanted results again and runs probably into different case structures. I changed already the sequence of case structures, without result. I dont know, where to look for any more and cant debug it on my Win machine, because on win I cant reproduce this error. Has anyone seen something like this before and has any idea where to look for? Thanks for any hint Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: switch - case works different on Win-Mac !?
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 18:47:51 +0200, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: I am struggeling with a mysterious problem, where a mac standalone calls different handlers as a win standalone in a switch structure, build on Win with 2.8.1. I have one big switch structure on stack level to handle all button ups. It looks like this, nothing sophisticated: I haven't run into this before, but I *have* run into situations where the if... then... structure without an end if gave me unexpected results (but it wasn't on a specific platform). Can you try restructuring your ifs so that they go like this: if the cpTest of this stack is true then answer Test1 end if It may not help, but other than that I can't see anything that might be a problem with the code you posted. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: switch - case works different on Win-Mac !?
Hi Ken, I added the Ifs after the problem occured just for my test scenario. The problem was there before I added the Ifs and is still there with the Ifs and cpTest = false. Perhaps I am working completely at the wrong side of the problem, I think I have to look for a redesign. Thank you Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ken Ray Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007 19:21 An: How to use Revolution Betreff: Re: switch - case works different on Win-Mac !? On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 18:47:51 +0200, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: I am struggeling with a mysterious problem, where a mac standalone calls different handlers as a win standalone in a switch structure, build on Win with 2.8.1. I have one big switch structure on stack level to handle all button ups. It looks like this, nothing sophisticated: I haven't run into this before, but I *have* run into situations where the if... then... structure without an end if gave me unexpected results (but it wasn't on a specific platform). Can you try restructuring your ifs so that they go like this: if the cpTest of this stack is true then answer Test1 end if It may not help, but other than that I can't see anything that might be a problem with the code you posted. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: lifURL -- FTP upload folder
On Jul 2, 2007, at 9:48 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: Mark, got it thanks! btw... poking around your web site does your multi-media presentation tool box do the two screen thing? ala PowerPoint and KeyNote where the projector plugged into the external monitor (monitor 2) automatically defaults becoming is the primary screen for the viewing audience and on the actual CPU internal screen, running the show there are presentor's notes tied to the slide that appears in the external window (projector) I'm thinking this can be done now with Rev 2 monitor support, but would need to be built from the ground up... Unfortunately not. I opened sourced that code though if you are interested in playing around with it. Let me know and I'll send it to you. Mark Talluto -- CANELA Software http://www.canelasoftware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
Well I think the US gets an unfair press regarding coffee. I have travelled reasonably extensively in the US, and generally found it easy to find good Italian coffee, at least in major cities... A good cup of tea, on the other hand, seems to be strangely impossible outside the UK and some parts of it's former empire. :) best, Mark On 3 Jul 2007, at 15:42, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I spent 3 years in Illinois and the only thing that I would call coffee I found there was what I boiled in my saucepan - with cardamon. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
casesensitive doesn't work with Umlaute on Mac
Hello, I have an other phenomenom, which works on Win perfect but gives other results on Mac standalone. I am looking for a searchstring in a textfield with lineoffset(). Before searching I set the casesensitive to false, so that I can search with lower and upper cases. Everything works perfect in all situations on Win and Mac besides the one single german Umlaut character ö (o with double point). When entering the lower ö into my search sting the lineoffset() doesnt find the words with upper Ö. The funny thing is that it works with the other german Umlaute even on Mac and with all Umlaute on Win. The field datas are stored in a user property and converted with ISOtoMac() before loaded into the field. Could this phenomenom be a bug in ISOtoMac()? Thanks for your thoughts Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
AW: casesensitive doesn't work with Umlaute on Mac
Additional question: If I wouldn't store my text in a user property, but in a field, the charset would be converted to Mac when creating the Mac standalone. Do you think that could give a other result as ISOtoMac(), or does anybody know if internally happen the same things. In that case I wouldn't have to redesign my app and had to live with the bug? Thanks Tiemo -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Tiemo Hollmann TB Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007 20:06 An: Revolution mailing list Betreff: casesensitive doesn't work with Umlaute on Mac Hello, I have an other phenomenom, which works on Win perfect but gives other results on Mac standalone. I am looking for a searchstring in a textfield with lineoffset(). Before searching I set the casesensitive to false, so that I can search with lower and upper cases. Everything works perfect in all situations on Win and Mac besides the one single german Umlaut character ö (o with double point). When entering the lower ö into my search sting the lineoffset() doesnt find the words with upper Ö. The funny thing is that it works with the other german Umlaute even on Mac and with all Umlaute on Win. The field datas are stored in a user property and converted with ISOtoMac() before loaded into the field. Could this phenomenom be a bug in ISOtoMac()? Thanks for your thoughts Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
Yup. I can't speak for the whole country, but here in Santa Cruz, CA the coffee is as good as anywhere in the world, and far better than most places I've visited. Thirty years ago you couldn't get good bread, beer, or coffee anywhere, it seemed. Now those staples are world class in more than a few parts of the country. ¡Viva la revolución! Mark On Jul 3, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Mark Smith wrote: Well I think the US gets an unfair press regarding coffee. I have travelled reasonably extensively in the US, and generally found it easy to find good Italian coffee, at least in major cities... A good cup of tea, on the other hand, seems to be strangely impossible outside the UK and some parts of it's former empire. :) best, Mark On 3 Jul 2007, at 15:42, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I spent 3 years in Illinois and the only thing that I would call coffee I found there was what I boiled in my saucepan - with cardamon. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. -Thomas Edison ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
I am sure you're actually saying ¡Viva la imigrassion! because that's what you should thank for your good coffee! :-P On 7/3/07, Mark Swindell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup. I can't speak for the whole country, but here in Santa Cruz, CA the coffee is as good as anywhere in the world, and far better than most places I've visited. Thirty years ago you couldn't get good bread, beer, or coffee anywhere, it seemed. Now those staples are world class in more than a few parts of the country. ¡Viva la revolución! Mark On Jul 3, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Mark Smith wrote: Well I think the US gets an unfair press regarding coffee. I have travelled reasonably extensively in the US, and generally found it easy to find good Italian coffee, at least in major cities... A good cup of tea, on the other hand, seems to be strangely impossible outside the UK and some parts of it's former empire. :) best, Mark On 3 Jul 2007, at 15:42, Richmond Mathewson wrote: I spent 3 years in Illinois and the only thing that I would call coffee I found there was what I boiled in my saucepan - with cardamon. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. -Thomas Edison ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
Andre Garzia wrote: I am sure you're actually saying ¡Viva la imigrassion! because that's what you should thank for your good coffee! :-P FWIW, as a matter of company policy the coffee pot here at the Fourth World Embassy brews only Fair Trade Certified coffees: http://transfairusa.org/ This helps ensure at least a living wage to all growers and suppliers in the chain. The cost is on par with non-certified coffees, and there are some darn tasty blends available, some from Brazil. Lately I've even started buying Fair Trade Certified sugar, and I'm told a local vendor sells Fair Trade Certified chocolate products as well. H... Maybe it's time for me to bake up a batch of Fair Trade Certified chocolate chip cookies :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
quitting is too complicated
I seldom make applications, but I've run into these problems when I tried to make my first os x standalone this year: 1. command-q does never produce closestackrequest. 2. closing the stack does leave the application running (as long as there is any other stack in memory). Therefore I had to use three messages (reposted below). Please someone tell me that I missed the one correct message for intercepting quitting and saving a stack :( on closeStackRequest if the environment development then quit end if pass closeStackRequest end closeStackRequest on shutdownRequest if the environment development then save this stack end if pass shutdownRequest end shutdownRequest on appleEvent theID, theEvent if theID = aevt and theEvent = quit and the environment development then save this stack end if pass appleEvent end appleEvent -- official ChatRev page: http://chatrev.bjoernke.com Chat with other RunRev developers: go stack URL http://homepage.mac.com/bvg/chatrev1.3.rev; ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN} Writing (not drawing) with the pencil
At 2:52 PM -0700 7/2/2007, James Hurley wrote: I originally thought it would be useful to see if Run Rev could mimic ads I have seen on television in which an animated pencil is used to write a signature at the bottom of a page of text. Alas, it was not to be. Couldn't find a way to convert the alphabet to Run Rev graphic objects. Maybe someone has some ideas. Hmmm. I'm not sure whether this would suit your needs, but one classic way to do this is to start with the complete signature, then erase it little by little while recording a frame every so often, and then run the animation backward so you see the signature appearing. -- jeanne a. e. devoto ~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jaedworks.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
I think it is only called soccer in the US and that the rest of the world called it football. LOL. I know what you are intending to say - but for the record g - last I checked Australia and New Zealand where part of the world and we do call Soccer Soccer and not Football. We have three codes here. Aussy Rules. Rugby (two distinct codes of rugger) and Soccer. ;-) Anyway - as long as you know I'm just teasing and not at all serious. ;) And Scott is revealing which part of Australia he lives in. In Victoria South Australia football means Australian Rules. In New South Wales Queensland, football means rugby league :-) Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: quitting is too complicated
Björnke von Gierke wrote: I seldom make applications, but I've run into these problems when I tried to make my first os x standalone this year: 1. command-q does never produce closestackrequest. Right. CloseStackRequest is only sent when the user physically clicks the close box. It's the only way a script can know if the user does that. 2. closing the stack does leave the application running (as long as there is any other stack in memory). Yes. Other things that will prevent quitting are 1) if there are any pending messages in the queue, and 2) if there are any active drivers that need to be unloaded (like revUnloadSpeech.) Therefore I had to use three messages (reposted below). Please someone tell me that I missed the one correct message for intercepting quitting and saving a stack :( I usually manage things on closeStack, though it depends on the stack setup. For stacks that have open substacks that always need to be closed, I do something like this in the main stack script: on closeStack if the target is not me then pass closeStack repeat for each line L in the substacks of this stack close stack L end repeat save this stack -- the main stack (optional) if the environment development then quit end closeStack Closestack is always sent, whether the user clicks the close box, chooses quit or close from a menu, or when a script issues a quit command. If your main stack has only a single card, you could use a closeCard handler instead. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: quitting is too complicated
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 22:21:37 +0200, Björnke von Gierke wrote: I seldom make applications, but I've run into these problems when I tried to make my first os x standalone this year: 1. command-q does never produce closestackrequest. No, and I think it may be a documentation issue - closeStackRequest is only sent when the user clicks the closebox on a window that has one, or is told by the current Window Manager (whatever that is at the time) that a window should close. It doesn't happen due to the results of a script, which is how you're able to quit at all (is by script). Only 'closeStack' AFAIK is sent whenever a stack closes, and for any reason (user or script initiated) - unless it's being trapped and not passed by a frontscript or if lockMessages is currently on. 2. closing the stack does leave the application running (as long as there is any other stack in memory). Yes, this is typical behavior on a Mac - you can close all the windows of an application and still leave it open. So if you're still showing *your* menus, they have to come from a stack that is loaded in memory and so it won't quit. Therefore I had to use three messages (reposted below). Please someone tell me that I missed the one correct message for intercepting quitting and saving a stack :( Yup, and in fact you can see how it's done here: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/menu001.htm HTH, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Deleting files on Vista
Jacque- Monday, July 2, 2007, 1:11:55 PM, you wrote: Elsewhere I also found this note: Since youre running this program with administrative privileges youll be prompted by UAC every time you use the software as a security precaution. Note that UAC can be turned off. It's somewhere in the security control panel settings. Thankfully I don't have a Vista computer in front of me at the moment to find out exactly where. And do note that running in admin mode isn't the same as running as the user called Administrator. That's turned off in Vista, and there are some things you can only do from that account, so you might want to consider enabling it: http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=537806 -- -Mark Wieder [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT (semi): Democracy inside Revolution
http://www.getdemocracy.com/ Anyone familiar with Democracy? Rev leverages its framework to talk with open source DB's (PostGreSql etc.) Why not follow that trend into Video delivery? could an open source player object successfully leap frog the limitations of QT for cross platform media delivery? Would we even want that? pros, cons? Sivakatirswami www.himalayanacademy.com Get Hinduism Today Digital Edition. It's Free! http://www.hinduismtoday.com/digital/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: HTML mail on the Mac.
Shao Sean wrote: I have an old library that can take a Rev text field (including embedded images) and create a properly encoded HTML message.. I'll dig it out of the archives and post it in the next day or two :-) ___ Great.. thanks... FYI. your web site doesn't load for me right now... problems? I just downloaded your latest libSMPT 2.5... if that helps. Sivakatirswami www.himalayanacademy.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] And Scott is revealing which part of Australia he lives in. In Victoria South Australia football means Australian Rules. In New South Wales Queensland, football means rugby league :-) I'm exposed by a New South Welshperson! g Actually - WA and Tas also play Aussy Rules primarily - but we won't go there g Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
On 7/4/07, Scott Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] And Scott is revealing which part of Australia he lives in. In Victoria South Australia football means Australian Rules. In New South Wales Queensland, football means rugby league :-) I'm exposed by a New South Welshperson! g Actually - WA and Tas also play Aussy Rules primarily - but we won't go there g Now he's insulting me! vbg I'm a Queenslander :-) Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
G'Day mates, I am in Sydney, Oz. We could almost form a user group (if only the country wasn't so damn big) : ) Regards John T From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] And Scott is revealing which part of Australia he lives in. In Victoria South Australia football means Australian Rules. In New South Wales Queensland, football means rugby league :-) I'm exposed by a New South Welshperson! g Actually - WA and Tas also play Aussy Rules primarily - but we won't go there g Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
From: Sarah Reichelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now he's insulting me! vbg I'm a Queenslander :-) ROFL! Now I've done it. :-) Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: the pencil
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] G'day John, I am in Sydney, Oz. We could almost form a user group (if only the country wasn't so damn big) : ) It'd be nice to all get together sometime kind of like they do for Europe and the USA. Though I'm unsure how many of us there is in order to make it anything more than a friendly get together (not that there is anything wrong in that). Of course I'd have to be very careful not to accuse anybody of being from NSW when they are in QLD or of being in Australia when they come from Tassy! g Scott Kane ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Two Screen Presentations
Mark Talluto wrote: On Jul 2, 2007, at 9:48 PM, Sivakatirswami wrote: Mark, got it thanks! btw... poking around your web site does your multi-media presentation tool box do the two screen thing? ala PowerPoint and KeyNote where the projector plugged into the external monitor (monitor 2) automatically defaults becoming is the primary screen for the viewing audience and on the actual CPU internal screen, running the show there are presentor's notes tied to the slide that appears in the external window (projector) I'm thinking this can be done now with Rev 2 monitor support, but would need to be built from the ground up... Unfortunately not. I opened sourced that code though if you are interested in playing around with it. Let me know and I'll send it to you. Mark Talluto Sure, I would love to see it..send it along.. But we do need the 2 screen framework Our context always starts out as live presentation.. an actual presentor is there looking at the notes on the box which are different than what the audience sees on the wall. Later these Keynotes are repurposed distributed as a QT movie (by doing the presentation w/mic in a sound booth and saving in SnapZPro as a QT movie) If, where appropriate, the whole thing began as a Rev presentation, we have some very interesting options for turning these into much richer education modules at much, much smaller files size which could be driven from either a Windows or Mac Rev player. I say where appropriate because sometimes there's no reason to reinvent the wheel and KeyNote is perfect and has the GL transitions glitz. So, if you are presenting at a conference and the presentation has a lifetime of 24 hours... just do it in Keynote. But huge amt of effort is going into some of these and you cannot even export, edit and import the presentor's notes in Keynote... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
