Re: Passing variables between Flash and Rev

[Henk van der Velden]

OK, thanks a lot.


Flash versions have different capabilities.
Early versions (MX MX2004) could read files, send and receive  
packets from

servers, and listen for packets from servers (variable strings or XML
format) using GET or POST methods.




... and later versions can just use a local socket connection.



I'm new to the socket stuff. Can I ask a few questions about it?

1. So I can have a Flash file played through revBrowser in a Rev  
application, and have that Flash file communicate with the very same  
Rev application through a local socket connection?


2. A local socket, is that something like "127.0.0.0: port number"?

3. Does this approach require a specific setup of the computer?

4. Does this approach work in case of a proxy server being used on  
the local network?


5. And the last one, although it is Flash related it might be of  
interest to some more Rev developers: I need to use XMLSocket()?



Kind regards,

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Re: some images from RevLive

[Ben Rubinstein]

On 17/5/08 15:29, Wilhelm Sanke wrote:
What about adding some text to your pictures, so we are able to at least 
match some heads and names?


How about those with images upload them to flickr with a suitable tag, eg 
"RunRevLive" - then there's provision for tagging and hotspotting images.


- Ben

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Re: ANN: StackRunner 1.8 Is Now Available

[Ben Rubinstein]

On 17/5/08 22:01, Ken Ray wrote:

Just wanted to let you know that a new release of StackRunner, version 1.8,
has been uploaded to my site. This version has the 2.9.0 engine in it,
includes full support for Linux, and has actually pre-bundled the database
drivers in to make it easier to deploy. I also modified the web page a bit
for clarity (this is in keeping with my talk at RevLive2008 :-).

You can get it here:

http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/downloads/StackRunner.htm


Thanks so much for this Ken; your continued provision and updating of 
StackRunner is a real boon to the community - certainly to me!


- Ben

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Re: Passing variables between Flash and Rev

[Dave Cragg]

On 19 May 2008, at 08:48, Henk van der Velden wrote:


I'm new to the socket stuff. Can I ask a few questions about it?

1. So I can have a Flash file played through revBrowser in a Rev  
application, and have that Flash file communicate with the very same  
Rev application through a local socket connection?


Interesting idea. But I think you'll have to overcome Flash's security  
restrictions. If the Flash file is loaded from the web, by default it  
can't connect to any other domain, including the local domain.  
However, there is a way to get round this by using a cross-domain  
policy file. I've never tried this for XMLSocket(), but according to  
the docs it's doable. However, it's not clear whether that can be used  
for connections to localhost instead of other domains on the internet.  
Worth trying. There's some information here about implementing a  
socket policy file.


http://livedocs.adobe.com/flex/2/docs/wwhelp/wwhimpl/common/html/wwhelp.htm?context=LiveDocs_Parts&file=1952.html




2. A local socket, is that something like "127.0.0.0: port number"?


I think "localhost:portnum" will work.

Please let us know if you have any success.

Cheers
Dave
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PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Malte Brill]

Hey Colin,

> Well, I got to 2nd best score for the last 20 days during my trial
> play time, but sadly I can't buy it, as I've had bad spam experiences
> from using PayPal, and so won't use them anymore.

Actually this is a very interesting topic. Is there any Web payment  
method you would trust? The reason why we use PAYPAl is that it was  
pretty easy to integrate with our Key generator. Also PAYPAL does  
charge the lowest fees for a transaction which helps us keeping the  
price down. We do accept checks or wire transfers if we are asked to.  
However this is quite inconvenient for both parties. The customer does  
not get the code instantly, which is a thing we clearly wanted to offer.


How do others handle this?

options?

All the best,

Malte
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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Colin Holgate]

On May 19, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Malte Brill wrote:


How do others handle this?


Usually there is an ordinary secure payment option. When I have had an  
active PayPal account it has been accompanied with endless emails  
telling me to go here or there to confirm a fictitious payment of some  
sort.


I have a plan B, if you'd like to consider it! Let me know off-list if  
you use iTunes, and I'll trade you an iTunes gift for a game code.



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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Petrides, M.D. Marian]

As a buyer, I have used PayPal only twice but have not gotten an undue  
number of spam emails.  In general my method for dealing with spam is  
to just go through my emails selecting anything that appears to be  
uninteresting and deleting these messages. Takes but a second each  
time and I tend to delete (unread) most of the messages in my inbox.   
No biggie.


On May 19, 2008, at 7:23 AM, Malte Brill wrote:


Hey Colin,

> Well, I got to 2nd best score for the last 20 days during my trial
> play time, but sadly I can't buy it, as I've had bad spam  
experiences

> from using PayPal, and so won't use them anymore.

Actually this is a very interesting topic. Is there any Web payment  
method you would trust? The reason why we use PAYPAl is that it was  
pretty easy to integrate with our Key generator. Also PAYPAL does  
charge the lowest fees for a transaction which helps us keeping the  
price down. We do accept checks or wire transfers if we are asked  
to. However this is quite inconvenient for both parties. The  
customer does not get the code instantly, which is a thing we  
clearly wanted to offer.


How do others handle this?

options?

All the best,

Malte
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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Shari]

As a buyer, I have used PayPal only twice but have not gotten an 
undue number of spam emails.  In general my method for dealing with 
spam is to just go through my emails selecting anything that appears 
to be uninteresting and deleting these messages. Takes but a second 
each time and I tend to delete (unread) most of the messages in my 
inbox.

No biggie.


I've used Paypal as a buyer a few times and did not encounter 
anything out of the ordinary.  I don't recall pulling my hair out 
with a bunch of windows or questions or hoops to jump thru.  Maybe it 
has something to do with the type of payment used?  I used a checking 
account debit card, with no hassles at all.


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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Colin Holgate]

On May 19, 2008, at 8:55 AM, Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote:

As a buyer, I have used PayPal only twice but have not gotten an  
undue number of spam emails.


But if you suddenly got lots and could figure out what it was that you  
had done to deserve them, you might stop doing the action that caused  
the spam.


Another issue with PayPal, which I've just been reminded of, it can be  
desperately hard to get it to take your details. I managed to get  
logged into my dormant account, and tried to enter payment details,  
and after five minutes of repeatedly trying two credit cards, it still  
cannot confirm the card details. So I can't use PayPal even if I do  
risk the spam.



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andLinux: Running Linux in W2K/XP/Vista (32bit only atm)

[Luis]

For those wanting to test Rev on Linux, you could try this if you're  
not used to dual booting or want to fork out for VMWare or Parallels:


http://www.andlinux.org/

Cheers,

Luis.


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Re: [somewhat OT] Text processing question (sort of)

[jbv]

Hi,

Finally I implemented the option quoted below...
As the content of the data to process are in french, I had to consider
more characters (éèê etc) for the letter counts.

As data is organized as lines with 3 items in each, I ended up with
4 lines, each featuring also 3 items, each item containing the
letters counts for a, b, c, d... separated by spaces.

Then I sorted lines as follows :

 repeat with j=3 down to 1
  repeat with i=charsNumber down to 1
   sort lines of myLetterCounts ascending numeric by word i of item j of each
  end repeat
 end repeat

Then, I automated the duplicates detections as follows :

 get line 1 of myLetterCounts
 delete line 1 of myLetterCounts

 put "" into myResult
 put 5 into nCount -- used to adjust the detection threshold

 repeat for each line j in myLetterCounts
  put 0 into a
  put 0 into b
  put item 1 of j into c
  put item 2 of j into d
  repeat with w=1 to nST
   add abs(word w of item 1 of it - word w of c) to a
   add abs(word w of item 2 of it - word w of d) to b
  end repeat
  if a >0 and b > 0 and a <= nCount and b <= nCount then
   put it &cr& j &cr after myResult
   get last item of it
   get lineoffset(tab & last item of it &cr,ListRef)
   if it>0 then
put line it of ListRef & cr after myResult
   end if
   get lineoffset(tab & last item of j &cr,ListRef)
   if it>0 then
put line it of ListRef & cr after myResult
   end if
  end if
  get j
 end repeat

At first glance, I don't think many duplicates escaped the detection...

The 4 lines were processed in about 7 minutes on an old Mac G3...

Thanks again for the tip,
JB

> Interesting problem.
>
> if you are looking for typos, here are my thoughts.
>
> What are the probable errors? Seems to me you have:
> 1. Typos in individual words
> 2. Extra spaces in individual words (so that you end up with two words
> instead of one)
> 3. Punctuation differences
> 4. Perhaps words such as; "the", "and", "an" missing from titles.
>
> I think I would generate a letter count for each quotation.
>
> For your example:
> "God bless America"George W BushHouston, March 18 2005
> "Godi bless America"George W BushHuston, March 18 2005
>
> The quotation letter counts are
> 2 1 1 0 2 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 for "God bless
> America" (2 a's, 1 b, 1 c ...)
> and
> 2 1 1 0 2 0 1 0 2 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 for "Godi bless
> America"
>
> Then if you sort by these number sets and compare to see how similar
> each count is, you;ll get potential matches that you should eyeball.
> For example, These two strings have all but one count exactly the
> same. I'd go through this process multiple times by rotating the first
> count to the rear and re-sorting.
>
> 1 1 0 2 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
> 1 1 0 2 0 1 0 2 0 0 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
>
> and just keep doing that until every letter has had a chance to be the
> first in the sort.
>
> Basically The thing I'd have it do is find pairs of quotes that appear
> to be very similar. Then once you have a huge list of potential pairs,
> have something that displays them to you in pairs so that you can
> quickly tell the interface to delete one or to skip it.
>
> I really do think you are going to want to make no changes to the data
> unless you look at the matches with your eyeballs. You could very
> easily end up with two completely different quotes that are extremely
> similar, just because person B was playing with a famous quote from
> person A.
>
> So long story short, slice and dice the quotes to collect a set of
> pairs that appear to be similar. Then build a flashcard kind of
> interface in RunRev that allows you the human to read the two similar
> quotes and decide whether to delete one or not.
>
> I'd combine brute force with human visuals. 4 lines seems like a
> small data set for brute force.
>
> Kee Nethery
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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[jbv]

Hi list,

>
> > As a buyer, I have used PayPal only twice but have not gotten an
> > undue number of spam emails.
>
> But if you suddenly got lots and could figure out what it was that you
> had done to deserve them, you might stop doing the action that caused
> the spam.
>

I don't think there's any relationship between using paypal and receiving spam.

I've been using paypal for years as buyer & seller and haven't got many emails
from them (nor phishing emails counterfeiting paypal emails), while I know at
least 2 ppl who don't have any paypal account and receive numerous (most of
them fake) emails from paypal...

Actually, I think that spammers send regulary fake ebay & paypal emails to
thousands of email adresses, on the assumption that so many ppl use ebay &
paypal these days that they'll catch a large number of ppl in their nets 
anyway...

JB

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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Marian Petrides, M.D.]

>>>still cannot confirm the card details.

FWIW, I solved that one by getting a PayPal credit card.  I use it  
ONLY for PayPal transactions, making it easy to figure out if it has  
been misused and also giving me the same consumer protections that any  
other credit card affords.


I DID, however, find it impossible to pay for an eBay item (couldn't  
log into PayPal from eBay) with Safari.  No problem when I switched to  
Firefox and attempted the same transaction.  Maybe you have a browser  
issue?




On May 19, 2008, at 8:04 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:

Another issue with PayPal, which I've just been reminded of, it can  
be desperately hard to get it to take your details. I managed to get  
logged into my dormant account, and tried to enter payment details,  
and after five minutes of repeatedly trying two credit cards, it  
still cannot confirm the card details. So I can't use PayPal even if  
I do risk the spam.



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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Jim Sims]

On May 19, 2008, at 2:23 PM, Malte Brill wrote:

Actually this is a very interesting topic. Is there any Web payment  
method you would trust? The reason why we use PAYPAl is that it was  
pretty easy to integrate with our Key generator. Also PAYPAL does  
charge the lowest fees for a transaction which helps us keeping the  
price down. We do accept checks or wire transfers if we are asked  
to. However this is quite inconvenient for both parties. The  
customer does not get the code instantly, which is a thing we  
clearly wanted to offer.


How do others handle this?


kagi
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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Ian Wood]

On 19 May 2008, at 13:23, Malte Brill wrote:


Hey Colin,

> Well, I got to 2nd best score for the last 20 days during my trial
> play time, but sadly I can't buy it, as I've had bad spam  
experiences

> from using PayPal, and so won't use them anymore.

Actually this is a very interesting topic. Is there any Web payment  
method you would trust? The reason why we use PAYPAl is that it was  
pretty easy to integrate with our Key generator. Also PAYPAL does  
charge the lowest fees for a transaction which helps us keeping the  
price down.


This is of interest to me as well, as I use PayPal as the main payment  
method, for pretty much the same reasons as Malte.


As a relatively heavy Paypal user myself, I get roughly 20x more eBay  
phishing emails than I do PayPal, which makes for maybe one every two  
months for PayPal.


It's also worth pointing out (as I do on my payments pages) that you  
do NOT need a PayPal account to pay via PayPal - just a credit card.


What does everyone else use? Kagi, eSellerate, Share-it?

Ian

P.S. Just this morning I got "Sadly, with the conversion rate, your  
cool program costs $75!  I hope that
the $ bounces back.  Perhaps offer a US discount?" in the inbox.  
Insert the rolleyes emoticon of your choice here...

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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Neal Campbell]

I use Esellerate for my stuff (none of it is Revolution-based so need
to find/write an Esellerate external) but I have been very happy with
them.

Neal

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Malte Brill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey Colin,
>
>> Well, I got to 2nd best score for the last 20 days during my trial
>> play time, but sadly I can't buy it, as I've had bad spam experiences
>> from using PayPal, and so won't use them anymore.
>
> Actually this is a very interesting topic. Is there any Web payment method
> you would trust? The reason why we use PAYPAl is that it was pretty easy to
> integrate with our Key generator. Also PAYPAL does charge the lowest fees
> for a transaction which helps us keeping the price down. We do accept checks
> or wire transfers if we are asked to. However this is quite inconvenient for
> both parties. The customer does not get the code instantly, which is a thing
> we clearly wanted to offer.
>
> How do others handle this?
>
> options?
>
> All the best,
>
> Malte
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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Neal Campbell]

We do paypal for our publishing business and have had no problems but
I have had one horrendous experience using them personally for an ebay
sell and I will try to avoid them in the future if at all possible. Do
a google search on people hating paypal and you will get a taste of it
(has nothing to do with spam but accounts being locked with funds up
to six months).

Neal

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:31 AM, Ian Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 19 May 2008, at 13:23, Malte Brill wrote:
>
>> Hey Colin,
>>
>> > Well, I got to 2nd best score for the last 20 days during my trial
>> > play time, but sadly I can't buy it, as I've had bad spam experiences
>> > from using PayPal, and so won't use them anymore.
>>
>> Actually this is a very interesting topic. Is there any Web payment method
>> you would trust? The reason why we use PAYPAl is that it was pretty easy to
>> integrate with our Key generator. Also PAYPAL does charge the lowest fees
>> for a transaction which helps us keeping the price down.
>
> This is of interest to me as well, as I use PayPal as the main payment
> method, for pretty much the same reasons as Malte.
>
> As a relatively heavy Paypal user myself, I get roughly 20x more eBay
> phishing emails than I do PayPal, which makes for maybe one every two months
> for PayPal.
>
> It's also worth pointing out (as I do on my payments pages) that you do NOT
> need a PayPal account to pay via PayPal - just a credit card.
>
> What does everyone else use? Kagi, eSellerate, Share-it?
>
> Ian
>
> P.S. Just this morning I got "Sadly, with the conversion rate, your cool
> program costs $75!  I hope that
> the $ bounces back.  Perhaps offer a US discount?" in the inbox. Insert the
> rolleyes emoticon of your choice here...
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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Trevor DeVore]

On May 19, 2008, at 10:33 AM, Neal Campbell wrote:


I use Esellerate for my stuff (none of it is Revolution-based so need
to find/write an Esellerate external) but I have been very happy with
them.


Neal,

We have an esellerate external we use. You can ping me off-list if you  
would like to take a look at it.


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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Colin Holgate]

At 9:15 AM -0500 5/19/08, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote:
No problem when I switched to Firefox and attempted the same 
transaction.  Maybe you have a browser issue?


Of course, you mean THEY have a browser issue. I have no problem 
using Safari, I enjoy it. But I will try Firefox when I work out the 
next issue: where can you go to buy it? I got to the Buy Now page at 
home, after using up the trial time, but I can't find a way to get 
there without running out of trial time, not even by looking at the 
site.


About PayPal and just using a credit card, yes, that's how a lot of 
sites are, but this one (wherever it is) only has options for signing 
into, or signing up for PayPal. There doesn't appear to be a way to 
do just credit card payment. Like others, most of my online purchases 
have involved eSellerate or Kagi, and those do allow use of credit 
cards without signing up for PayPal.


BTW, this in the FAQ is more funny than a lot of people will realize:

Q: Can you prove Fermat's Last Theorem
A: Yes, but I don't have the space to write the proof down here.

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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Marian Petrides, M.D.]

On May 19, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:


At 9:15 AM -0500 5/19/08, Marian Petrides, M.D. wrote:
No problem when I switched to Firefox and attempted the same  
transaction.  Maybe you have a browser issue?


Of course, you mean THEY have a browser issue. I have no problem  
using Safari, I enjoy it. But I will try Firefox when I work out the  
next issue: where can you go to buy it? I got to the Buy Now page at  
home, after using up the trial time, but I can't find a way to get  
there without running out of trial time, not even by looking at the  
site.


Hmm... I've only used Firefox once or twice.  Haven't encountered  
problems, wasn't aware there even WAS a trial period. Can't help you  
there. Sorry.



About PayPal and just using a credit card, yes, that's how a lot of  
sites are, but this one (wherever it is) only has options for  
signing into, or signing up for PayPal. There doesn't appear to be a  
way to do just credit card payment. Like others, most of my online  
purchases have involved eSellerate or Kagi, and those do allow use  
of credit cards without signing up for PayPal.


Actually, I set up my PayPal account to automatically use my PayPal  
credit card (I made it the default payment method). So all I needed to  
be able to do was sign in from the eBay auction.  I'm not crazy about  
PayPal either but this seemed to be an adequate compromise.  They  
never get my cash money (to put a hold on) and I have the usual credit  
card protections. If I have a dispute, then it is handled through the  
credit card issuer. But, this is the first time I have used this  
method (the other time I did a single purchase using a credit card),  
so I really don't know how well it will work. YMMV.




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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Richard Gaskin]

Neal Campbell wrote:

I use Esellerate for my stuff (none of it is Revolution-based so need
to find/write an Esellerate external) but I have been very happy with
them.


What is the benefit of replicating the web payment form in the software?

It's easy enough to just pop open a browser to the payment page, and 
since most folks have already made purchases over the web they're 
comfortable using the the browser and understand what the Secure icon means.


But if a new software wants me to enter CC info, my first question is, 
"Why don't they just let me use my browser?", my second question is, 
"What are they going to do with that info?", and my third quesion is, 
"How can I possibly know?"


Trust is a hard thing to earn.  For my own software, since the purchase 
happens only exactly once but the features are used over and over, I put 
the time into features and leave the payment to the software they 
already trust.


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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Ian Wood]

On 19 May 2008, at 16:24, Colin Holgate wrote:

About PayPal and just using a credit card, yes, that's how a lot of  
sites are, but this one (wherever it is) only has options for  
signing into, or signing up for PayPal. There doesn't appear to be a  
way to do just credit card payment. Like others, most of my online  
purchases have involved eSellerate or Kagi, and those do allow use  
of credit cards without signing up for PayPal.


Yes,  it's an option when setting up the payment options to require  
the payee to have an account. Why anyone would turn it on I don't  
know. ;-(



BTW, this in the FAQ is more funny than a lot of people will realize:

Q: Can you prove Fermat's Last Theorem
A: Yes, but I don't have the space to write the proof down here.


Only marginally... ;-)
I have to say it's the funniest FAQ I've seen for awhile.

I'm going to have a look at offering both PayPal and either Kagi or  
eSellerate, then people can choose the one they prefer.


Ian
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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Colin Holgate]

At 8:33 AM -0700 5/19/08, Richard Gaskin wrote:

What is the benefit of replicating the web payment form in the software?


That side of eSellerate is cute, but it wouldn't matter if you had to 
go to a web page. It's just the not having to sign up for something 
part that I like.


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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Richard Miller]

I had to create a store inside my Rev software which did not use a  
browser. Unlike with others, my software has requirements which made  
use of a browser difficult (for example, the software is driven by a  
touch screen and any given user may need to use the store often). I  
found it to be fairly straightforward to integrate a credit  
processing system directly into Rev, tying it into Authorize.net.  
It's completely secure, but it does require the Rev Enterprise  
version. One advantage of this approach is I can easily generate  
software serial numbers or anything else required by the application  
since everything happens within Rev (and, of course, I have complete  
flexibility with how the store looks and operates).


I also used a Rev cgi to duplicate all of this via my online store...  
mainly to save the expense of using any outside service for card  
processing beyond that used in my Rev application.


My customers do not seem worried about security issues as I simply  
tell them I never maintain their card data. They seem to accept this  
explanation just as readily as believing the card information would  
not be retained through a browser-based store.


Richard Miller


On May 19, 2008, at 11:42 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:


At 8:33 AM -0700 5/19/08, Richard Gaskin wrote:
What is the benefit of replicating the web payment form in the  
software?


That side of eSellerate is cute, but it wouldn't matter if you had  
to go to a web page. It's just the not having to sign up for  
something part that I like.


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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Trevor DeVore]

On May 19, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:


Neal Campbell wrote:

I use Esellerate for my stuff (none of it is Revolution-based so need
to find/write an Esellerate external) but I have been very happy with
them.


What is the benefit of replicating the web payment form in the  
software?


Not sure there is any but you don't have to do that with eSellerate.  
The current version of the eSellerate SDK uses a browser instance  
within the software to take you through the purchase process on the  
esellerate server. You just make a call to the eSellerate SDK and it  
handles everything else. Of course the eSellerate SDK deals with other  
things besides just purchasing which some developers may need.


One of the benefits of purchasing from within the software is that the  
eSellerate SDK will return the license key. You can then register the  
software for the user. This does provide instant gratification and  
requires a few less steps for the user.


Regards,

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Re: Passing variables between Flash and Rev

[Troy Rollins]

On May 19, 2008, at 3:48 AM, Henk van der Velden wrote:

1. So I can have a Flash file played through revBrowser in a Rev  
application, and have that Flash file communicate with the very same  
Rev application through a local socket connection?


Right.




2. A local socket, is that something like "127.0.0.0: port number"?


Correct again.




3. Does this approach require a specific setup of the computer?


No. Though I can't say whether or not highly restrictive local  
firewalls, or anti-virus software may cause conflict, though I've done  
this process on my systems, and it has worked fine.





4. Does this approach work in case of a proxy server being used on  
the local network?


I don't see why that should matter, since you aren't actually even  
actually leaving the local system, and the IP is strictly local to the  
machine.





5. And the last one, although it is Flash related it might be of  
interest to some more Rev developers: I need to use XMLSocket()?


Sure, but the name is misleading, it is actually just a standard text  
connection.


In the end, it works like this... you have Rev start listening for a  
socket connection, you have Flash connect to it, and you start  
communicating back and forth.


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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Neal Campbell]

Thats the reason! Most of my customers do end up using the traditional
browser but its nice having the serial number/key managed outside of
cut/pasting the info in.

I also own a Kagi account but I felt that once you cost in the factor
of everything that ESellerate is cheaper. Would be interested if other
comparisons yield different results!

Neal

On 5/19/08, Trevor DeVore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On May 19, 2008, at 11:33 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote:
>
>
> > Neal Campbell wrote:
> >
> > > I use Esellerate for my stuff (none of it is Revolution-based so need
> > > to find/write an Esellerate external) but I have been very happy with
> > > them.
> > >
> >
> > What is the benefit of replicating the web payment form in the software?
> >
>
>  Not sure there is any but you don't have to do that with eSellerate. The
> current version of the eSellerate SDK uses a browser instance within the
> software to take you through the purchase process on the esellerate server.
> You just make a call to the eSellerate SDK and it handles everything else.
> Of course the eSellerate SDK deals with other things besides just purchasing
> which some developers may need.
>
>  One of the benefits of purchasing from within the software is that the
> eSellerate SDK will return the license key. You can then register the
> software for the user. This does provide instant gratification and requires
> a few less steps for the user.
>
>  Regards,
>
>  --
>  Trevor DeVore
>  Blue Mango Learning Systems
>  ScreenSteps: http://www.screensteps.com
>  Developer Resources:
> http://revolution.bluemangolearning.com
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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Colin Holgate]

I found the Buy Now page, but alas it won't work in Firefox either.

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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Marian Petrides, M.D.]

Bummer :-(
On May 19, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:


I found the Buy Now page, but alas it won't work in Firefox either.

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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[viktoras didziulis]

check this alternative:
http://webstore.amazon.com

Any number of web stores for $59 per month + 7% commission. Hmmm... 
Seems a little too expensive, but maybe their service is great...


All the best!
Viktoras


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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[J. Landman Gay]

Richard Miller wrote:
I had to create a store inside my Rev software which did not use a 
browser.


We did something similar with TeachMac, an app that provides tutorials 
and teaching materials for (often very new) computer users. We 
originally started by using a browser for purchases, but given the 
nature of most of the customers we found that they had trouble leaving 
the app, waiting for an email, and especially managing the copy/paste of 
the serial keys and purchasing data they needed to register tutorials. 
Eventually we just changed everything to connect to Kagi directly from 
within the app. They seemed to appreciate that and support calls fell 
dramatically. Customers pay via an integrated dialog in the app, and the 
module they have purchased opens immediately without any interaction on 
their part; they never have to do anything manually or leave TeachMac. 
It just works, as they say.


For a one-time purchase they may have managed all right with a browser, 
but since TeachMac uses a pay-as-you-go, pick and choose modules 
interface, staying inside the app was a terrific boon to the users.


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[OT] Fast Typing

[Hugh Senior]

Try this in MSWord. Empty document, type...

=rand()

or

=rand(10,20)

where the first number is paragraphs, second param is number of sentence 
repeats.


Neat, huh?

/H 


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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Ben Rubinstein]

On 19/5/08 13:55, Petrides, M.D. Marian wrote:
As a buyer, I have used PayPal only twice but have not gotten an undue 
number of spam emails.  In general my method for dealing with spam is to 
just go through my emails selecting anything that appears to be 
uninteresting and deleting these messages. Takes but a second each time 
and I tend to delete (unread) most of the messages in my inbox.  No biggie.

...

Hey Colin,

> Well, I got to 2nd best score for the last 20 days during my trial
> play time, but sadly I can't buy it, as I've had bad spam experiences
> from using PayPal, and so won't use them anymore.


I've never signed up for PayPal (did try once, had a horrible time; my 
colleague also supposedly set one up for our company, couldn't make it work; 
admittedly this was from the UK, and a couple of years ago, and I think there 
were known issues about being outside the US which may have been sorted since 
then).


But I do get a ton of PayPal phishing spam (7-10/day that gets past my spam 
filters) and find it very convenient to know without looking that any message 
about my PayPal account is spam.  I think that's a positive reason to avoid 
setting up a PayPal account.


I do on occasion when I have no other choice use the facility to use a regular 
credit card to pay by paypal; but when it's a discretionary purchase, 
requirement for paypal is frequently a reason for my to choose not to buy.


- Ben

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Re: PAYPAL

[Dale Pond]

I have used PayPal for years both as seller and buyer. I can report  
no adverse effects of any kind. I have never seen any spam  
originating from PayPal or from my use of PayPal. There was a time  
when entering data into my account seemed a bit weird but eventually  
it all worked ok.


PayPal has done a great service in the way they cater to and assist  
unskilled users. I have used other services that refuse to help the  
unskilled user and these companies are now more or less has-beens or  
wantabees that will never make the big time.


Life, Light, Love & Laughter,
Dale Pond
Sympathetic Vibratory Physics
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Re: integrating rsync with Rev

[Josh Mellicker]

Sarah,

Once again, you have enlightened the world with your brilliance and  
left a trail of happiness behind you :-) Thanks so much for your  
brilliant script!!! "Expect" was the key!


I am going to try to convert this to a "send tCmd to me in 30 ticks"  
type callback...


And, I don't mind checking for the string "total size", but I am also  
curious if there is an empirical way to find out when a process has  
terminated.




On May 18, 2008, at 8:40 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:



I've been testing using Josh's server. Now I need to work out how to
use it with my server


I did no server config, as they say, it just works!

Rsync seems to be part of the standard install with Linux/Apache  
servers (along with pico, zip, etc.)


Thanks again!!!
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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Richard Gaskin]

Ben Rubinstein wrote:
But I do get a ton of PayPal phishing spam (7-10/day that gets past my spam 
filters) and find it very convenient to know without looking that any message 
about my PayPal account is spam.  I think that's a positive reason to avoid 
setting up a PayPal account.


There is no relationship between having a PayPal account and receiving 
phishing attempts via email.  I get phishing emails from faux PayPal 
sites to email addresses I've never used.  Those are sent to a wide 
variety of addresses from both known and random lists, and I've seen no 
pattern which ties them to PayPal accounts in any way.


Email addresses used with other vendors are a different story.   Oh the 
spam I get from an address I've only used with JetBlue, and as much as I 
like their flights I must say I've found it disturbing that I've been 
unable to find anyone in that company willing to investigate the source 
of the privacy leak.


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Re: Passing variables between Flash and Rev

[Henk van der Velden]

Thanks a lot; I'll dive into this.
Henk

On 19-mei-2008, at 19:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In the end, it works like this... you have Rev start listening for  
a socket connection, you have Flash connect to it, and you start  
communicating back and forth.


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Re: exclude

[Paul Foraker]

Thank you-all. I'm so happy to be 'without' !
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Re: Passing variables between Flash and Rev

[Dave Cragg]

On 19 May 2008, at 19:11, Henk van der Velden wrote:


Thanks a lot; I'll dive into this.
Henk


I got intrigued, and managed to get something working. (It needs Flash  
Player 9.) You can try this in the Rev message box.


go url "http://www.lacscentre.co.uk/flex/socketTest/FlashSocketTest.rev";


When the stack loads, click the Setup button. It will load a swf file  
using revBrowser.


When the swf file has loaded, click its "Get Environment From Rev"  
button. Hopefully, it will display the environment variables and time  
supplied by Rev.


Troy wrote:

In the end, it works like this... you have Rev start listening for a  
socket connection, you have Flash connect to it, and you start  
communicating back and forth.


I had trouble working out how to manage the connection from the Rev  
side. If you want Rev to push data to the Flash element at arbitrary  
times, you need to keep the connection open. But if you also want to  
accept data from the Flash element, doesn't the Flash script need to  
reset the connection prior to sending data otherwise Rev doesn't know  
when to read from the socket. In the example above, Rev closes the  
socket each time after sending the data, forcing the Flash component  
to reconnect. Is there a cleaner approach to this?


Cheers
Dave
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OT: Open Port to PostGreSQL -- Security issues?

[Sivakatirswami]

Aloha,

I hope all you had fun at the conference. Andre is here with us on 
Kauai. I'm taking good care of him. What a brain! Day off here so he's 
off kayaking...then tomorrow we are all off for a trip to the dry side: 
Salt Pond, then up the  mountain to Kokee and Kalalau Valley look out 
and then back down to Poipu for body surfing before we get back to 
coding on Wednesday...


Meanwhile we are setting up a new server. 1 Terrabyte of hard drive 
space We upgraded to CentOS5.1  and  we switched to a new control panel 
called VirtualMin. Andre has installed 2.9 and we are in the middle of 
migrating all our content to the new box. Andre tweaking CGI's, 
consolidating all the Rev web stack libraries into one location (we  use 
Revolution for *everything* on our box) and getting our Credit card 
processor  (monetra) working. We should get thru this tedious stuff in a 
few days and get into some fun Rev apps next week


OK my question is: how serious a security risk is opening a port to 
PostGreSQL (or MySQL) for remote transactions. Andre has done great work 
building CGI and  we use POST to do queries and the CGI talks to the 
dBase. But that's really "hard work" for some things... Now that I  have 
Plesk out of the way, I can set up users and access without breaking 
anything (Plesk previously broke access control and i couldn't fix it) 
and with the 2.9 upgrades to the dBase toolbox I'm "itching"  to create 
some desktop clients to work with databases on the server.   But I'm 
interested in everyones opinions and insights on "gotcha's" when 
allowing PostGreSQL port to be open... I know it will get flagged by our 
PCI (Payment Card Industry) audits but if I keep the other risk factors 
low enough I might get by with an open port...


What kind of "bad" things can happen? is a remote login sending the 
PostGreSQL user and password in clear text? Can anyone sniff that?


Cheers from Kauai where the "vog" from the volcano on the big island 
actually shuts out the sun on some days... eerie...


Sivakatirswami

PS: and Way Off Topic:

If any of you run a dedicated server and wear a webserver admin hat 
(Like I do) and are "fed up" with Plesk, Ensim, Cpanel (it doesn't take 
long to start banging your head if you use any of those).. then don't 
walk but RUN to get VirtualMin... It's a wrapper for WebMin and the GUI  
sets up a  non-proprietery, standard structured Linux web server. (e.g. 
all your virtual domains are just users in /home, which makes so much 
sense)  and btw you can migrate your Plesk or Cpanel sites with "press 
of a button".


The command line junkies on your team can fiddle with httpd.conf and 
IpTables and create dbases under the hood and all this is neatly 
reflected in the VirtualMin control panel. It's got about ten time the 
features and controls for both your web sites and the server admin than 
Plesk had. PostGreSQL (and all kinds of other open source tools) are 
installed automatically and there is no charge for these modules) and 
you get a rich interface for handling all the dBases from the GUI if  
you want, while your terminal wizards can work on the command line. In 
Plesk, you can't move left or right or you break something...


And, the team behind VirtualMin actually provides *real* support! (I 
mean within minutes or hours at the latest)





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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Ben Rubinstein]

On 19/5/08 18:21, Richard Gaskin wrote:

Ben Rubinstein wrote:
But I do get a ton of PayPal phishing spam (7-10/day that gets past my 
spam filters) and find it very convenient to know without looking that 
any message about my PayPal account is spam.  I think that's a 
positive reason to avoid setting up a PayPal account.


There is no relationship between having a PayPal account and receiving 
phishing attempts via email.  I get phishing emails from faux PayPal 
sites to email addresses I've never used.  Those are sent to a wide 
variety of addresses from both known and random lists, and I've seen no 
pattern which ties them to PayPal accounts in any way.


Absolutely - but knowing that I don't have a paypal account is a very
effective defence against falling for, or even wasting my time looking at, a
phishing scam spam.

Email addresses used with other vendors are a different story.   Oh the 
spam I get from an address I've only used with JetBlue, and as much as I 
like their flights I must say I've found it disturbing that I've been 
unable to find anyone in that company willing to investigate the source 
of the privacy leak.


I've had the same experience with Europcar.

- Ben

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Re: OT: Web Gallerie for windows? and privacy

[Richard Gaskin]

tech1 wrote:

So, did anyone get pictures of the kingsnake and kangaroo rat?  :^) That
sounded like a great adventure.


It was a great time.  But sadly, such moments with animals are fleeting, 
and both were gone long before we got the cameras out.


But if you're jonesing for a kangaroo rat pic, here are two from a trip 
to Joshua Tree Phil Davis and I went on a while back:





They're quite bold for such small defenseless critters.

The king snake looked a bit young, only about two feet long. In addition 
to the black and white stripes that characterize them, this one had a 
bronze-ish pattern on the light areas.  Don't know if that's just an 
indication of age, or maybe some species other than the California king 
snakes I'd seen before.  He seemed calm enough when Andre and I were 
just standing there, but as the other footsteps approached he got shy 
and went into a hole.


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Re: PAYPAL [was] [ANN] The reason why I was so quiet recently.

[Stephen Barncard]

I've done literally HUNDREDS of Paypal/Ebay transactions, always in 
Safari (I don't like Firefox -ugly) and never had problems, except 
with a couple of sellers - not a browser issue.


sqb




I DID, however, find it impossible to pay for an eBay item (couldn't 
log into PayPal from eBay) with Safari.  No problem when I switched 
to Firefox and attempted the same transaction.  Maybe you have a 
browser issue?




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Re: [somewhat OT] Text processing question (sort of)

[Robert Brenstein]

On 18/05/08 at 23:03 -0700 Kee Nethery apparently wrote:

Interesting problem.

if you are looking for typos, here are my thoughts.

What are the probable errors? Seems to me you have:
1. Typos in individual words
2. Extra spaces in individual words (so that you end up with two 
words instead of one)

3. Punctuation differences
4. Perhaps words such as; "the", "and", "an" missing from titles.

...
So long story short, slice and dice the quotes to collect a set of 
pairs that appear to be similar. Then build a flashcard kind of 
interface in RunRev that allows you the human to read the two 
similar quotes and decide whether to delete one or not.


I'd combine brute force with human visuals. 4 lines seems like a 
small data set for brute force.


Kee Nethery


Finding identical lines is fairly trivial. Using fuzzy search to find 
similar lines is definitely more complicated. However, there are well 
known algorithms for detecting spelling errors. One of the common and 
rather simple approaches is to compute so called Damerau-Levenshtein 
distance. This is quite fast in Rev.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damerau%E2%80%93Levenshtein_distance

The approach I'd take

0. find and eliminate identical items
1. clean the word spacing
2. find and eliminate identical items
3. compare and clean punctuation. This may require partially human 
inspection but the program can report those cases.

4. again eliminate identical items
5. use a simplified approach, like what Kee suggests or computing 
word factor as you suggested, to identify line pairs suspected to 
differ by spelling and other minor alterations.
6. compute Damerau-Levenshtein distance for those and report cases 
for human inspection.

7. correct typos and standardize texts as needed.
8. find and eliminate identical items.

Robert
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mysql and cgi, or why the engine outputs: Attempting to load driver: /opt/web/lib/dbdrivers/dbmysql.so ???

[Andre Garzia]

Aloha Friends,

is there any way to prevent the engine from outputing:

Attempting to load driver: /opt/web/lib/dbdrivers/dbmysql.so

When loading a database in a CGI? This line is disrupting my http
headers, can we say to the engine like "keep your voice down while you
load your modules"...

Any help is deeply appreciated
andre

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kiosk sample stack

[Jim Lambert]

After years, I'm finally trying Rev's database capabilities for the  
first time.


Using the supplied example kiosk.rev, I instantly get a connection  
error "Access denied for user 'example'@'74.7.66.226' (Using password:  
YES)"


No changes were made to the default info in the Database Query Builder  
which is

type: MYSQL
Name: Addresses
Host: runrev.com
database: example
user: example
password: example

Why wouldn't this work right out of the box? Perhaps it's a more  
clever tutorial that it appears!


Any help is most appreciated.

Jim Lambert

P.S. OSX 10.5 intel
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Re: mysql and cgi, or why the engine outputs: Attempting to load driver: /opt/web/lib/dbdrivers/dbmysql.so ???

[Phil Davis]

Hi Andre,

How about sending stdout to /dev/null until you're ready to write the 
result back to the caller? (e.g. tell the engine "talk to my hand" until 
you're ready to hear from it)


Or maybe it's not that simple - I've never had this problem.

Phil


Andre Garzia wrote:

Aloha Friends,

is there any way to prevent the engine from outputing:

Attempting to load driver: /opt/web/lib/dbdrivers/dbmysql.so

When loading a database in a CGI? This line is disrupting my http
headers, can we say to the engine like "keep your voice down while you
load your modules"...

Any help is deeply appreciated
andre

  


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Re: kiosk sample stack

[Sarah Reichelt]

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 8:48 AM, Jim Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After years, I'm finally trying Rev's database capabilities for the first
> time.
>
> Using the supplied example kiosk.rev, I instantly get a connection error
> "Access denied for user 'example'@'74.7.66.226' (Using password: YES)"
>
> No changes were made to the default info in the Database Query Builder which
> is
> type: MYSQL
> Name: Addresses
> Host: runrev.com
> database: example
> user: example
> password: example
>
> Why wouldn't this work right out of the box? Perhaps it's a more clever
> tutorial that it appears!

I expect that Rev just gave example details and that they have not
actually opened a database connection to anyone called "example".

Do you have a database server setup anywhere that you can try to
access? If not, it is very easy to install MySQL on your own Mac
.
Download the MySQL admin tools as well
, so that you can
create a database and setup the user privileges.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Passing variables between Flash and Rev

[Troy Rollins]

On May 19, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Dave Cragg wrote:

But if you also want to accept data from the Flash element, doesn't  
the Flash script need to reset the connection prior to sending data  
otherwise Rev doesn't know when to read from the socket. In the  
example above, Rev closes the socket each time after sending the  
data, forcing the Flash component to reconnect. Is there a cleaner  
approach to this?


I believe that when I've done this in the past, I've just polled the  
socket for data.


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Re: integrating rsync with Rev

[Sarah Reichelt]

> Once again, you have enlightened the world with your brilliance and left a
> trail of happiness behind you :-)

LOL

> Thanks so much for your brilliant
> script!!! "Expect" was the key!
>
> I am going to try to convert this to a "send tCmd to me in 30 ticks" type
> callback...
>
> And, I don't mind checking for the string "total size", but I am also
> curious if there is an empirical way to find out when a process has
> terminated.

Maybe you could us "ps" to check to see if the process was still running.

Sarah
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Re: kiosk sample stack

[Jim Lambert]

Sarah wrote:
I expect that Rev just gave example details and that they have not
actually opened a database connection to anyone called "example".



Thanks, Sarah.

I foolishly took this sentence from the tutorial's PDF literally: "The  
database itself is located on the Runtime Revolution web server."
Do you have a database server setup anywhere that you can try to  
access? If not, it is very easy to install MySQL on your own Mac . Download the MySQL admin tools as well , so that you can create a database and setup the user privileges.


I have taken your advice, installed MYSQL locally and begun to enjoy  
trying Rev's database powers!


Thanks,
JimL
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Re: kiosk sample stack

[Sarah Reichelt]

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Jim Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Sarah wrote:
>> I expect that Rev just gave example details and that they have not
>> actually opened a database connection to anyone called "example".
>>
>>
> Thanks, Sarah.
>
> I foolishly took this sentence from the tutorial's PDF literally: "The
> database itself is located on the Runtime Revolution web server."


LOL - I would have assumed the same :-)
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Re: integrating rsync with Rev

[David Bovill]

Sarah - thanks for this work! Just one thing... for general use it would be
really great to use these techniques to interactively generate the ssh key
pairs from within Rev and then ftp or scp them to the server. This
convenience option would make it easy for users to set up secure
connections, and the truely paranoid could always do the ssh key pair
generation themselves on the command line.

I think this would get a lot more acceptance due to security fears - also it
has general application to a whole bunch of shell commands that can use ssh
key pairs for authentication - svn for one.

2008/5/20 Sarah Reichelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > Once again, you have enlightened the world with your brilliance and left
> a
> > trail of happiness behind you :-)
>
> LOL
>
> > Thanks so much for your brilliant
> > script!!! "Expect" was the key!
> >
> > I am going to try to convert this to a "send tCmd to me in 30 ticks" type
> > callback...
> >
> > And, I don't mind checking for the string "total size", but I am also
> > curious if there is an empirical way to find out when a process has
> > terminated.
>
> Maybe you could us "ps" to check to see if the process was still running.
>
> Sarah
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Re: integrating rsync with Rev

[Sarah Reichelt]

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:15 PM, David Bovill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sarah - thanks for this work! Just one thing... for general use it would be
> really great to use these techniques to interactively generate the ssh key
> pairs from within Rev and then ftp or scp them to the server. This
> convenience option would make it easy for users to set up secure
> connections, and the truely paranoid could always do the ssh key pair
> generation themselves on the command line.
>
> I think this would get a lot more acceptance due to security fears - also it
> has general application to a whole bunch of shell commands that can use ssh
> key pairs for authentication - svn for one.


If you can send me the Terminal commands needed to do this, I would be
happy to incorporate them into a stack and then make rync work that
way.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: kiosk sample stack

[Heather Nagey]

Oops. I expect we broke it in the server move. I'll pass this on to  
the webmaster and he can try and relocate this sample somewhere it  
will be able to connect.


Regards,

Heather

On May 20, 2008, at 4:39 AM, Jim Lambert wrote:


Sarah wrote:
I expect that Rev just gave example details and that they have not
actually opened a database connection to anyone called "example".




Thanks, Sarah.

I foolishly took this sentence from the tutorial's PDF literally:  
"The database itself is located on the Runtime Revolution web server."


Do you have a database server setup anywhere that you can try to  
access? If not, it is very easy to install MySQL on your own Mac  
. Download the  
MySQL admin tools as well , so that you can create a database and setup the  
user privileges.




I have taken your advice, installed MYSQL locally and begun to  
enjoy trying Rev's database powers!


Thanks,
JimL
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