Re: never ending scroll?

[BNig]

David,
thank you.

Mind you that I "cheated" on the scroll. I used a transparent field to pick
up the scroll. I did not do the "physics" of iPhone-like scrolling like
momentum/decelleration. As a side effect/unwanted effect it also scrolls
when you click in the right part of the field where the scrollbar of the
transparent field is, then you also have a 'never ending scroll'. So there
are some quirks.
If my name were Malte Brill of Animation Engine fame I would have
implemented that. :)

At least the fields are relatively easy to adapt by setting the two hidden
fields "fHourTemplate" and "fMinutesTemplate" to new data (like 24 hrs for
example or roman numerals, if you are so inclined) :)

regards
Bernd


David C. wrote:
> 
>> I liked the idea of a scrolling field and gave it a try. I tested on Mac
>> with Safari and Firefox, on Windows XP with Firexfox and Internet
>> Explorerer
>> 6. It worked. Under MacOS X 10.6.x with the scrollwheel or the trackpad
>> the
>> system gives a "iPhone" like scrolling, not with Firefox though.
> 
> That's some really nice work, Bernd!
> ...thanks for sharing.
> 
> Best regards,
> David C.
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Re: never ending scroll?

[BNig]

Nicolas,
you are welcome, it was a nice challenge.
please see also my response to David C.

regards
Bernd


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> Bernd,
> 
> Wow!
> 
> Thank you so much.
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Delay in opening the first card. How can I solve this?

[William de Smet]

Hi there,

I notice quite some delay in opening cards in my new app on Win 7. On OSX
all is fine (I asked before on the list).
I click a button and nothing happens (so it seems). After some time the next
card is shown.
It is just a button with the most simple script: go cd "start_2x2".

In the end it will be an app with about 100 cards in it I think so the delay
can take a while?
For now I came up with the following, so the user has some visual feedback.

*on* mouseUp

   *unlock* cursor

   *set* cursor to watch

   *lock* cursor

   *wait* 7 sec

   *go* cd "start_2x2"

*end* mouseUp

The 7 sec is just my idea and it can take much longer.
Is there another way to do this? I want the 'wait' to be an exact time
(after the wait the next card opens).

Thanks in advance.

greetings,

William
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Re: Delay in opening the first card. How can I solve this?

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi William,

The wait command in your script just adds another delay, because  
RunRev is completely blocked while waiting. If you add "with messages"  
to the command, you'll give the engine a chance to do its thing while  
your script waits. I don't think this will make much of a difference,  
except that going to the next card will always take more than 7 seconds.


I have had the same problem several times, too. I wonder whether it  
has something to do with QuickTime. Getting the QTVersion in the  
preOpenStack handler will load QT before the first card shows. Maybe  
this moves the delay to the startup time of your programme/stack.  
Setting the dontUseQT to true doesn't load QT at all, which might take  
away the delay completely. I might be all wrong about this, but I'm  
curious whether it makes any difference.


Do any scripts run when cd "start_2x2" opens?

P.S. There's also http://runrev.info/rrforum

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On 2 jun 2010, at 11:00, William de Smet wrote:


Hi there,

I notice quite some delay in opening cards in my new app on Win 7.  
On OSX

all is fine (I asked before on the list).
I click a button and nothing happens (so it seems). After some time  
the next

card is shown.
It is just a button with the most simple script: go cd "start_2x2".

In the end it will be an app with about 100 cards in it I think so  
the delay

can take a while?
For now I came up with the following, so the user has some visual  
feedback.


*on* mouseUp

  *unlock* cursor

  *set* cursor to watch

  *lock* cursor

  *wait* 7 sec

  *go* cd "start_2x2"

*end* mouseUp

The 7 sec is just my idea and it can take much longer.
Is there another way to do this? I want the 'wait' to be an exact time
(after the wait the next card opens).

Thanks in advance.

greetings,

William


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revServer ?

[Kee Nethery]

Took the survey and saw mention of revServer. Not something I am familiar with. 
When I go to the RunRev web site and search for revServer it appears there are 
tutorials but no product information. None of the web site menus list revServer 
as a product.

Is revServer an unreleased product? Or is it functionality in the enterprise 
edition that I can have IT install on some of our production servers?

Are there docs on how to use it? Lynn's question asking for a CGI version said 
that it is an Apache module which is exactly what I want. 

Pointers to docs and downloads would be most welcome.

Kee



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Re: revServer ?

[Ian Wood]

As far as I remember, revServer is the name for the planned version of On-Rev 
that can be installed on your own server. In other words, not a shipping 
product at this time.

Ian



On 2 Jun 2010, at 10:47, Kee Nethery  wrote:

> Took the survey and saw mention of revServer. Not something I am familiar 
> with. When I go to the RunRev web site and search for revServer it appears 
> there are tutorials but no product information. None of the web site menus 
> list revServer as a product.
> 
> Is revServer an unreleased product? Or is it functionality in the enterprise 
> edition that I can have IT install on some of our production servers?
> 
> Are there docs on how to use it? Lynn's question asking for a CGI version 
> said that it is an Apache module which is exactly what I want. 
> 
> Pointers to docs and downloads would be most welcome.
> 
> Kee
> 
> 
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Re: revServer ?

[Sarah Reichelt]

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Kee Nethery  wrote:
> Took the survey and saw mention of revServer. Not something I am familiar 
> with. When I go to the RunRev web site and search for revServer it appears 
> there are tutorials but no product information. None of the web site menus 
> list revServer as a product.
>
> Is revServer an unreleased product? Or is it functionality in the enterprise 
> edition that I can have IT install on some of our production servers?
>
> Are there docs on how to use it? Lynn's question asking for a CGI version 
> said that it is an Apache module which is exactly what I want.
>
> Pointers to docs and downloads would be most welcome.

At the moment only available through a subscription to On-Rev.
Docs are limited, though you get a read me if you sign up. Basically
it's like PHP as it provides server-side scripting.
There are a couple of lessons on revServer at the RunRev lessons site.

I have some examples at the On-Rev section of my site:


Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: DataGrid Headers not showing.

[Trevor DeVore]

On Jun 1, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote:

I recently redid the multiple datagrids that I have across several  
cards into
one datagrid placed as a background. All of a sudden the datagrid  
headers
disappear randomly. It happens when changing from card to card. I  
can get
them back if I select the datagrid and push the Refresh Data Grid  
Button in

the Property Inspector.

Is there a way to prevent this from happening or a way to script the  
refresh

of the datagrid on preOpenCard?


I've never tried sharing a data grid across cards in a group so I'm  
not sure what might be going on.


You could try dispatching "RefreshList" or "ResetList" in preopencard.

http://lessons.runrev.com/spaces/lessons/manuals/datagrid/lessons/7344-Data-Grid-API

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Re: [OT] Google Drops Windows

[Peter Brigham MD]

If this is true, I suspect that those of us who are Mac users will  
soon have to start worrying about viruses in a way we never have had  
to -- this will create a juicy target for hackers who have up to now  
focused on the low-hanging fruit of the Windows system.


-- Peter

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On Jun 1, 2010, at 2:21 PM, stephen barncard wrote:


Another big shift:

http://www.pcr-online.biz/news/33627/Google-drops-Windows

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Re: [OT] Google Drops Windows

[Kay C Lan]

Well IMO Steve's decision to upset a community full of developers is more
likely to get the virus makers hard at work. The reference article doesn't
make sense, as far as I'm aware the Chinese hacking was directed against the
Google Servers and more particularly the personal accounts of Google users,
and the Google servers run Linux. This is completely separate to the Windows
desktops that Oliver Office worker might be running. Tomorrow, when the
Chinese hackers wake up, they'll again be hacking Google's Linux.

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Peter Brigham MD  wrote:

> If this is true, I suspect that those of us who are Mac users will soon
> have to start worrying about viruses in a way we never have had to -- this
> will create a juicy target for hackers who have up to now focused on the
> low-hanging fruit of the Windows system.
>
> -- Peter
>
> Peter M. Brigham
> pmb...@gmail.com
> http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig 
>
>
>
> On Jun 1, 2010, at 2:21 PM, stephen barncard wrote:
>
>  Another big shift:
>>
>> http://www.pcr-online.biz/news/33627/Google-drops-Windows
>>
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Re: revServer ?

[Andre Garzia]

Kee,

RevServer is a new product, it is an engine for creating web apps not unlike
php. It is easier to use than old Rev CGI system since you can mix HTML and
RevTalk. It also includes an include command so that you can organize and
share your code in text files instead of stacks which is a boon.

Right now, RevServer is only available at the On-Rev.com service but it will
be released to the rest of the world someday.

Cheers
andre

On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:13 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Kee Nethery  wrote:
> > Took the survey and saw mention of revServer. Not something I am familiar
> with. When I go to the RunRev web site and search for revServer it appears
> there are tutorials but no product information. None of the web site menus
> list revServer as a product.
> >
> > Is revServer an unreleased product? Or is it functionality in the
> enterprise edition that I can have IT install on some of our production
> servers?
> >
> > Are there docs on how to use it? Lynn's question asking for a CGI version
> said that it is an Apache module which is exactly what I want.
> >
> > Pointers to docs and downloads would be most welcome.
>
> At the moment only available through a subscription to On-Rev.
> Docs are limited, though you get a read me if you sign up. Basically
> it's like PHP as it provides server-side scripting.
> There are a couple of lessons on revServer at the RunRev lessons site.
>
> I have some examples at the On-Rev section of my site:
> 
>
> Cheers,
> Sarah
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Re: Delay in opening the first card. How can I solve this?

[William de Smet]

Hi Mark,

I just used 'if the platform is "Win32" then set the dontUseQT to true'  on
preOpenStack

Tested it on WinXP (Pentium 4 2.8 Ghz with 500 MB RAM) and I noticed a
little difference in speed. Without the script there is a little delay but
not as much as on Windows 7. Will test that as soon as possible as well as
with Windows Vista. I will keep you informed.


What if the system is 64bit? Do I replace 32 with 64 in the script?


Thanks again!


greetings,


William




2010/6/2 Mark Schonewille 

> Hi William,
>
> The wait command in your script just adds another delay, because RunRev is
> completely blocked while waiting. If you add "with messages" to the command,
> you'll give the engine a chance to do its thing while your script waits. I
> don't think this will make much of a difference, except that going to the
> next card will always take more than 7 seconds.
>
> I have had the same problem several times, too. I wonder whether it has
> something to do with QuickTime. Getting the QTVersion in the preOpenStack
> handler will load QT before the first card shows. Maybe this moves the delay
> to the startup time of your programme/stack. Setting the dontUseQT to true
> doesn't load QT at all, which might take away the delay completely. I might
> be all wrong about this, but I'm curious whether it makes any difference.
>
> Do any scripts run when cd "start_2x2" opens?
>
> P.S. There's also http://runrev.info/rrforum
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Mark Schonewille
>
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> Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer
>
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> http://economy-x-talk.com/contact.html
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> the clipboard of your computer over the local network.
>
>
> On 2 jun 2010, at 11:00, William de Smet wrote:
>
>  Hi there,
>>
>> I notice quite some delay in opening cards in my new app on Win 7. On OSX
>> all is fine (I asked before on the list).
>> I click a button and nothing happens (so it seems). After some time the
>> next
>> card is shown.
>> It is just a button with the most simple script: go cd "start_2x2".
>>
>> In the end it will be an app with about 100 cards in it I think so the
>> delay
>> can take a while?
>> For now I came up with the following, so the user has some visual
>> feedback.
>>
>> *on* mouseUp
>>
>>  *unlock* cursor
>>
>>  *set* cursor to watch
>>
>>  *lock* cursor
>>
>>  *wait* 7 sec
>>
>>  *go* cd "start_2x2"
>>
>> *end* mouseUp
>>
>> The 7 sec is just my idea and it can take much longer.
>> Is there another way to do this? I want the 'wait' to be an exact time
>> (after the wait the next card opens).
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> greetings,
>>
>> William
>>
>
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Re: revServer ?

[Richard Gaskin]

Kee Nethery wrote:

> Is revServer an unreleased product? Or is it functionality in the
> enterprise edition that I can have IT install on some of our
> production servers?
>
> Are there docs on how to use it? Lynn's question asking for a CGI
> version said that it is an Apache module which is exactly what I
> want.

If you need an Apache module specifically, RevServer won't do what you 
need.  I have yet to get a clear answer as to what exactly it is, but 
it's not an Apache module.


Behaviorally it's very similar to the very-capable-and-highly-underrated 
CGI engine you can use right now.  Neither the CGI engine nor RevServer 
are stay-resident processes; both terminate when your script is done.


After reading Andre's comments here about FastCGI (which can be 
configured on some servers to work with the Rev CGI engine) I've become 
more fond of the "old-fashioned" way the CGI currently works. :)  Having 
discrete processes keeps things clean, and persistence can be provided 
with a data store.


Both the RevServer engine at On-Rev.com and the Rev CGI engine will let 
you mix Rev statements and HTML. With the CGI you run your HTML template 
with your embedded function call placeholders through the engine's 
excellent merge function, and with On-Rev this is done automatically for 
you.


If you review the merge function in the dictionary I think you'll find 
it quite tempting to play with.  It was introduced to xTalk in 
SuperCard, back when they had a server-side engine called Flamethrower. 
 Its adoption in MetaCard/Rev offers the same syntax and benefits it 
was originally designed for, profoundly useful on both servers and the 
desktop.


The version of the merge function used in the On-Rev is a bit more 
flexible than the merge we have available to us in the engine we have 
now, but those differences are relatively minor, providing some helpful 
conveniences but very little that can't provide similar results through 
other means with the CGI engine.


The big benefit to On-Rev is the real-time debugging.  If you're doing 
serious CGI work that can be a godsend.


But you may be surprised at how capable the little CGI engine is. 
Cookies, libURL, and of course all the beauty of chunk expressions -- 
all in your hands and installable on any server today.


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Problem with scrolling image

[Glenn E. Fisher]

All,

I have a group which contains a large jpg image (width=5760  
height=2880 pixels).  The grp has hscroll and vsroll bars.


It works on MacOSX on a PPC & Intel.

On Windows XP using Virtual PC on the PPC and VMShare on the Intel,  
the image does not show in the window.  If I edit the group it shows  
up and when I stop editing group it disappears.


Any Ideas what could be causing this?

TIA,

Glenn

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Re: RevSudio on sale for $50

[Mark Swindell]

Is this Rev 4?  What is the difference between the free RevMedia version and 
this one if one is just developing private stacks for a classroom?  (A teacher 
friend who is about to take the leap asked me and I'm still not sure).  I did 
discover that RevStudio is not compatible with aspects of tRev, which is a bad 
thing because tRev is such a good thing.

Thanks
Mark

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> see
> http://www.themacsale.com/
> spread the word!
> 
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Re: RevSudio on sale for $50

[William de Smet]

Hi Mark,

With the Studio version you can make standalones. The free version  
can't do this.


Greetings,

William

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Op 2 jun 2010 om 16:22 heeft Mark Swindell  het  
volgende geschreven:\


Is this Rev 4?  What is the difference between the free RevMedia  
version and this one if one is just developing private stacks for a  
classroom?  (A teacher friend who is about to take the leap asked me  
and I'm still not sure).  I did discover that RevStudio is not  
compatible with aspects of tRev, which is a bad thing because tRev  
is such a good thing.


Thanks
Mark

On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:51 PM, François Chaplais wrote:


see
http://www.themacsale.com/
spread the word!

Best,
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Re: RevSudio on sale for $50

[René Micout]

I use RevStudio with tRev and it is all right !
René

Le 2 juin 2010 à 16:22, Mark Swindell a écrit :

> I did discover that RevStudio is not compatible with aspects of tRev

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Re: RevSudio on sale for $50

[Ian Wood]

On 2 Jun 2010, at 15:22, Mark Swindell wrote:

Is this Rev 4?  What is the difference between the free RevMedia  
version and this one if one is just developing private stacks for a  
classroom?


Apart from the ability to build standalones, revMedia doesn't include  
database access, externals or the datagrid.


http://www.runrev.com/products/the-rev-platform/editions-comparison/

 I did discover that RevStudio is not compatible with aspects of  
tRev, which is a bad thing because tRev is such a good thing.


I've seen no difference between revEnterprise & revStudio regarding  
tRev.


Ian
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Re: DataGrid Headers not showing.

[Andrew Kluthe]

RefreshList did the trick! Thanks.
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Deleted Files

[Dan Friedman]

Hey...

I am writing compressed XML data to file on a server using the put command.  
Every now and then, I get a report from a user that when they go to read the 
data, they are getting an error.  When I look on the server, the file is gone!  
Not empty, not zero K... just gone - nonexistent!

Let's assume for a moment that the file was there to begin with, and there is 
no one messing with the data and secretly deleting things.  It must be 
something in my app that is causing this.  But, what could it be?  Nowhere am I 
deleting a file.

Can anyone think of a way you could delete a file without actually deleting it?

I tried:

put compress("") into url x

I thought that compressing "empty" might do something funny.  But it didn't, it 
just wrote some gargly-goop.


ANY thoughts out there??

Thank you in advance,
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Re: RevSudio on sale for $50

[Andre Garzia]

I think revMedia should include externals and the data grid...

:-/



On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Ian Wood  wrote:

>
> On 2 Jun 2010, at 15:22, Mark Swindell wrote:
>
>  Is this Rev 4?  What is the difference between the free RevMedia version
>> and this one if one is just developing private stacks for a classroom?
>>
>
> Apart from the ability to build standalones, revMedia doesn't include
> database access, externals or the datagrid.
>
> http://www.runrev.com/products/the-rev-platform/editions-comparison/
>
>
>   I did discover that RevStudio is not compatible with aspects of tRev,
>> which is a bad thing because tRev is such a good thing.
>>
>
> I've seen no difference between revEnterprise & revStudio regarding tRev.
>
> Ian
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Re: Single Record Updates Only???

[Bob Sneidar]

Hi Mark. Thanks for the link. It looks interesting. I was not aware that the 
Rev API could use stored procedures though. I will look into it. 

Bob


On Jun 1, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Mark Stuart wrote:

> on Fri May 28 18:45:35 CDT 2010, Bob Sneidar wrote: 
>>> 
> If so, I am wondering if this is something that can be addressed in a future
> update, or if there is perhaps another way of doing this.
> <<
> 
> Hi Bob,
> Have you considered mySQL Stored Procedures to do what you want? It is
> possible.
> Here's a link to get you started:
> http://www.mysqltutorial.org/stored-procedures-parameters.aspx
> 
> Regards,
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Re: [OT] Google Drops Windows

[Bob Sneidar]

Not to make a big deal of this, but it seems you are saying that heretofore, 
Mac users only were safe from viruses because we weren't a big enough target. 
While true, it is not the only reason. It is also true that it is much harder 
to propagate a virus on a Mac using the vast majority of methods known. All 
demonstrable exploits so far have been through components other than the core 
OS. As far as I know, the only real demonstrable exploit has been via drive-by 
downloads in a web browser. 

But I tread again on old soil. 

Bob


On Jun 2, 2010, at 5:04 AM, Peter Brigham MD wrote:

> If this is true, I suspect that those of us who are Mac users will soon have 
> to start worrying about viruses in a way we never have had to -- this will 
> create a juicy target for hackers who have up to now focused on the 
> low-hanging fruit of the Windows system.
> 
> -- Peter

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Re: RevSudio on sale for $50

[Mark Wieder]

François-

Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 11:51:45 PM, you wrote:

> see
> http://www.themacsale.com/
> spread the word!

My favorite thing about this is that if you use the right scroll arrow
on the web page to scroll through the apps in the bundle, when you get
to WebRemote you get RickRolled.

...but if anyone is still using RevMedia and hasn't made the move to
Studio, just plunk down the fifty bucks and don't look back. Don't
think about it, just do it. You can thank me later.

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Re: Problem with scrolling image

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Glenn E. Fisher wrote:

> I have a group which contains a large jpg image (width=5760
> height=2880 pixels).  The grp has hscroll and vsroll bars.
> 
> It works on MacOSX on a PPC & Intel.
> 
> On Windows XP using Virtual PC on the PPC and VMShare on the Intel,
> the image does not show in the window.  If I edit the group it shows
> up and when I stop editing group it disappears.
> 
> Any Ideas what could be causing this?

I seem to recall there might be a size limit for images (?).

This could be a memory issue, but you could trying using narrower images and
see if you run across a size threshold.

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
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Re: Deleted Files

[Bob Sneidar]

Too little information. I can think of at least one way: Volume Corruption. I 
can think of another way: File was not saved where you thought it was saved. 
Yet another way: User or app appears to have saved the file but in reality, 
didn't. 

Bob


On Jun 2, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Dan Friedman wrote:

> Hey...
> 
> I am writing compressed XML data to file on a server using the put command.  
> Every now and then, I get a report from a user that when they go to read the 
> data, they are getting an error.  When I look on the server, the file is 
> gone!  Not empty, not zero K... just gone - nonexistent!
> 
> Let's assume for a moment that the file was there to begin with, and there is 
> no one messing with the data and secretly deleting things.  It must be 
> something in my app that is causing this.  But, what could it be?  Nowhere am 
> I deleting a file.
> 
> Can anyone think of a way you could delete a file without actually deleting 
> it?
> 
> I tried:
> 
>   put compress("") into url x
> 
> I thought that compressing "empty" might do something funny.  But it didn't, 
> it just wrote some gargly-goop.
> 
> 
> ANY thoughts out there??
> 
> Thank you in advance,
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Re: RevSudio on sale for $50

[Bob Sneidar]

But then it would have to be called RevStudio Lite. 

Bob


On Jun 2, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Andre Garzia wrote:

> I think revMedia should include externals and the data grid...
> 
> :-/

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Re: RevSudio on sale for $50

[Robert Mann]

I agree on the ground that the (first) user experience should be simplified
as much as possible. ; there already are so many traps... one should not
expect the first time user to re-build the datagrid from scratch..

Now.. it's perhaps not so easy to deal with datagrids "full capacities" for
instance.. so maybe a simplified limited version, just to do simple lists
could do the trick? Thus leaving ground for enhancment if required. But
something more to stumble upon.

I suspect runrev is cooking some sort of revolution again in its offering
and pricing.. maybe offering the full IDE, without limitation, for free and
having people pay for a license to make standAlones on each platform as a
supplement + subscription for on-rev !!?, who knows? it sounds quite
rational to me... and potentially positive for the community... no?
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Re: [OT] Google Drops Windows

[stephen barncard]

Autostart or Autoplay on volume insertion, whatever you call it has been a
problem on Windows systems, and disabled on macs for years. That may be a
big difference re: the viruses, along with the security notification on
newly installed apps by default.

McAffee is a virus, if you as me. For a long time mac user, dorking around
with Windows, it keeps pestering me to buy "protection" and the method of
removal is not immediately evident. Kinda like the old days in Chicago.

On 2 June 2010 09:35, Bob Sneidar  wrote:

> Not to make a big deal of this, but it seems you are saying that
> heretofore, Mac users only were safe from viruses because we weren't a big
> enough target. While true, it is not the only reason. It is

-
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San Francisco
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Re: Deleted Files

[Dan Friedman]

Bob,

Thank you VERY much for the insight.  I really need some help resolving this 
problem.  However

> Volume Corruption

On one file only?  I suppose that possible, but I think it's pretty unlikely.

> File was not saved where you thought it was saved. 

Then why would the original file have been deleted?

> User or app appears to have saved the file but in reality, didn't. 

Again, why would the original file have been deleted?


-Dan 





On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:00 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:

> Too little information. I can think of at least one way: Volume Corruption. I 
> can think of another way: File was not saved where you thought it was saved. 
> Yet another way: User or app appears to have saved the file but in reality, 
> didn't. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Jun 2, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Dan Friedman wrote:
> 
>> Hey...
>> 
>> I am writing compressed XML data to file on a server using the put command.  
>> Every now and then, I get a report from a user that when they go to read the 
>> data, they are getting an error.  When I look on the server, the file is 
>> gone!  Not empty, not zero K... just gone - nonexistent!
>> 
>> Let's assume for a moment that the file was there to begin with, and there 
>> is no one messing with the data and secretly deleting things.  It must be 
>> something in my app that is causing this.  But, what could it be?  Nowhere 
>> am I deleting a file.
>> 
>> Can anyone think of a way you could delete a file without actually deleting 
>> it?
>> 
>> I tried:
>> 
>>  put compress("") into url x
>> 
>> I thought that compressing "empty" might do something funny.  But it didn't, 
>> it just wrote some gargly-goop.
>> 
>> 
>> ANY thoughts out there??
>> 
>> Thank you in advance,
>> Dan

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RE: [OT] Google Drops Windows

[Lynn Fredricks]

> McAffee is a virus, if you as me. For a long time mac user, 
> dorking around with Windows, it keeps pestering me to buy 
> "protection" and the method of removal is not immediately 
> evident. Kinda like the old days in Chicago.

I don't know how many times of AV Ive tried on Windows, but Kasparsky Labs
is so much better than the others Ive tried. I do have a couple of computers
using free AV and that seems to work well, but those machines aren't seeing
a lot of heavy, every day use. Kasparsky has an army of Russian developers
updating it.

Best regards,

Lynn Fredricks
President
Paradigma Software
http://www.paradigmasoft.com

Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server 

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Re: [OT] Google Drops Windows

[Bob Sneidar]

Also, let's not forget ActiveX objects in a browser, Macro Objects in Office 
files (Office 2008 for Mac no longer supports VB scripts), and Microsoft's own 
"silent install feature". Great for Admins like me, hell once someone gets the 
Admin credentials tho. 

Bob


On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:16 AM, stephen barncard wrote:

> Autostart or Autoplay on volume insertion, whatever you call it has been a
> problem on Windows systems, and disabled on macs for years. That may be a
> big difference re: the viruses, along with the security notification on
> newly installed apps by default.
> 
> McAffee is a virus, if you as me. For a long time mac user, dorking around
> with Windows, it keeps pestering me to buy "protection" and the method of
> removal is not immediately evident. Kinda like the old days in Chicago.
> 
> On 2 June 2010 09:35, Bob Sneidar  wrote:
> 
>> Not to make a big deal of this, but it seems you are saying that
>> heretofore, Mac users only were safe from viruses because we weren't a big
>> enough target. While true, it is not the only reason. It is
> 
> -
> Stephen Barncard
> San Francisco
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Re: RevSudio on sale for $50

[David C.]

> see
> http://www.themacsale.com/
> spread the word!

Hummm. I wonder if there is a restriction on what platform is
available for that price?
Would be awesome if I could grab the Linux version instead of the Mac. ;)


Best regards,
David C.
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Re: Deleted Files

[Bob Sneidar]

After reading a bit more of your original post, I think I understand that you 
are creating an XML file each time you do a PUT? If so, are you "PUTTING" to 
the same file name each time? If so, then if the command fails for some reason 
the file system would delete the original, and then the new file, having failed 
would never get to the server. It might be better to rename the original, "PUT" 
the new XML file, verify the existence of the file after "PUTTING" it, then 
delete the old one. 

I'm curious why you are using this command and not the low level file commands:
open file
read from file
write to file
close file

Bear in mind I'm not an expert on low level file commands. I am simply curious 
about your method. 

Bob


On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:32 AM, Dan Friedman wrote:

> Bob,
> 
> Thank you VERY much for the insight.  I really need some help resolving this 
> problem.  However
> 
>> Volume Corruption
> 
> On one file only?  I suppose that possible, but I think it's pretty unlikely.
> 
>> File was not saved where you thought it was saved. 
> 
> Then why would the original file have been deleted?
> 
>> User or app appears to have saved the file but in reality, didn't. 
> 
> Again, why would the original file have been deleted?
> 
> 
> -Dan 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 2, 2010, at 10:00 AM, use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com wrote:
> 
>> Too little information. I can think of at least one way: Volume Corruption. 
>> I can think of another way: File was not saved where you thought it was 
>> saved. Yet another way: User or app appears to have saved the file but in 
>> reality, didn't. 
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 2, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Dan Friedman wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey...
>>> 
>>> I am writing compressed XML data to file on a server using the put command. 
>>>  Every now and then, I get a report from a user that when they go to read 
>>> the data, they are getting an error.  When I look on the server, the file 
>>> is gone!  Not empty, not zero K... just gone - nonexistent!
>>> 
>>> Let's assume for a moment that the file was there to begin with, and there 
>>> is no one messing with the data and secretly deleting things.  It must be 
>>> something in my app that is causing this.  But, what could it be?  Nowhere 
>>> am I deleting a file.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone think of a way you could delete a file without actually deleting 
>>> it?
>>> 
>>> I tried:
>>> 
>>> put compress("") into url x
>>> 
>>> I thought that compressing "empty" might do something funny.  But it 
>>> didn't, it just wrote some gargly-goop.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ANY thoughts out there??
>>> 
>>> Thank you in advance,
>>> Dan
> 
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Re: Deleted Files

[Richard Gaskin]

Dan Friedman wrote:


File was not saved where you thought it was saved.


Then why would the original file have been deleted?


User or app appears to have saved the file but in reality, didn't.


Again, why would the original file have been deleted?


libURL uses the STOR FTP command to post files.  I know that when a file 
already exists at the specified location the new file will overwrite it, 
but I'm not clear on the exact sequence of actions it will use to do so.


It may be that the original file is deleted by the FTP server 
immediately before the new file is written, and if that's the case there 
may be a problem with the FTP server in question or the data transfer to 
it which is allowing the first action (delete) to take place without 
being followed by the second (write).


Your client-side logs from libURL won't be able to help you, but there 
may be some diagnostics that can be done by a tech on the server side to 
see those specifics.


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Re: [OT] Google Drops Windows

[Scott Rossi]

Recently, Lynn Fredricks wrote:

> I don't know how many times of AV Ive tried on Windows, but Kasparsky Labs
> is so much better than the others Ive tried. I do have a couple of computers
> using free AV and that seems to work well, but those machines aren't seeing
> a lot of heavy, every day use. Kasparsky has an army of Russian developers
> updating it.

One hundred rubles says an army of Russian virus writers is working in the
office next door to Kasparsky, and they all take cigarette breaks together
every morning.  :-)

Regards,

Scott Rossi
Creative Director
Tactile Media, UX Design


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Re: RevSudio on sale for $50

[Mark Swindell]

I remember now.  When I tried RevMedia with tRev there was a problem where tRev 
wouldn't access the scripts.  Renaming RevMedia to Revolution solved that, and 
I mentioned it to Jerry.  Sounds like he fixed it (which often seems to happen 
within minutes with him). 

Mark


On Jun 2, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Ian Wood wrote:
>> 
> 
> I've seen no difference between revEnterprise & revStudio regarding tRev.
> 
> Ian
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Re: [OT] Google Drops Windows

[Neal Campbell]

If you go into the services applet under the Admin Tools control panel, you
can disable the ActiveX installer (which I do on all computers).

I sell computers specifically tuned for low latency in Software Defined
Radios and the only AV I have found that doesn't eat up 20+% of your
computer (and make SDR impossible) is Eset's NOD32. Its virtually invisible
processing-wise. Cannot recommend it enough!

Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com





On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Scott Rossi  wrote:

> Recently, Lynn Fredricks wrote:
>
> > I don't know how many times of AV Ive tried on Windows, but Kasparsky
> Labs
> > is so much better than the others Ive tried. I do have a couple of
> computers
> > using free AV and that seems to work well, but those machines aren't
> seeing
> > a lot of heavy, every day use. Kasparsky has an army of Russian
> developers
> > updating it.
>
> One hundred rubles says an army of Russian virus writers is working in the
> office next door to Kasparsky, and they all take cigarette breaks together
> every morning.  :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Scott Rossi
> Creative Director
> Tactile Media, UX Design
>
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Audio Playback in Linux is Clipped?

[John Patten]

Hi All...

I'm trying to track down why on Linux Rev is clipping the audio  
playback? On opening a stack and attempting to play recording from  
Rev, the first time through appears to layer pieces of the single  
recording on top of each other. Then on subsequent attempts to play  
the same recording it only plays the last few seconds of the audio.


I created a sample stack and saved it to RevOnline. It is called  
"Linux Audio Test."


It will record 10 seconds of audio using a shell script for aRecord  
and then use Rev's ability to play back the wav audio file.


This was done on Unbuntu Netbook Remix (9.01) version. Not sure if the  
problem is my hardware or if it is the software, or my goofy authoring  
skills...


If anybody could confirm that would be fantastic. If anybody has some  
tips that would be even better :-)


Thank you!

John Patten
SUSD
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Re: Delay in opening the first card. How can I solve this?

[Francis Nugent Dixon]

Hi from Beautiful Brittany,

William,


What if the system is 64bit? Do I replace 32 with 64 in the script?


All Windows systems return "Win32" from the "platform" command,
including Windows 7 !

-Francis

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Re: Delay in opening the first card. How can I solve this?

[Richard Gaskin]

Francis Nugent wrote:


What if the system is 64bit? Do I replace 32 with 64 in the script?


All Windows systems return "Win32" from the "platform" command,
including Windows 7 !


IIRC "the platform" will always return "Win32" on all Win systems, 
because Rev doesn't (yet) offer a 64-bit engine.


However, if you need to differentiate processors I believe "the 
processor" will return a distinctive string for 64-bit.


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Launch an app on a remote server

[Ray Horsley]

Greetings,

Anybody know how to do this?

Thanks,

Ray

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[OT] Google Drops Windows

[Kurt Kaufman]

S.R.:
"One hundred rubles says an army of Russian virus writers is working in the
office next door to Kasparsky, and they all take cigarette breaks together
every morning.  :-)"

LOL!   Wasn't there someone who, years ago on the SC list, would 
occasionally spin fanciful tales of KGB and Stasi intrigue?

Kurt

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Re: [OT] Google Drops Windows

[Phil Davis]

The late Grant Schempel? (not sure about spelling)

On 6/2/10 2:04 PM, Kurt Kaufman wrote:

S.R.:
"One hundred rubles says an army of Russian virus writers is working in the
office next door to Kasparsky, and they all take cigarette breaks together
every morning.  :-)"

LOL!   Wasn't there someone who, years ago on the SC list, would 
occasionally spin fanciful tales of KGB and Stasi intrigue?

Kurt
   


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Re: [OT] Google Drops Windows

[Klaus on-rev]

Hi Kurt,

> S.R.:
> "One hundred rubles says an army of Russian virus writers is working in the
> office next door to Kasparsky, and they all take cigarette breaks together
> every morning.  :-)"
> 
> LOL!   Wasn't there someone who, years ago on the SC list, would 
> occasionally spin fanciful tales of KGB and Stasi intrigue?

Yep, Ivan Aufulish (or whateveritwasspelled)!
That was my first thought, too :-D

> Kurt

Bestz

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[OT] Google Drops Windows

[Kurt Kaufman]

"The late Grant Schempel?"

That was him.  Ivan and all. 
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Re: RevSudio on sale for $50

[David C.]

>> http://www.themacsale.com/
>> spread the word!
>
> Hummm. I wonder if there is a restriction on what platform is
> available for that price?
> Would be awesome if I could grab the Linux version instead of the Mac. ;)

I guess I'm losing it replying to my own list message.
I emailed them about the platforms available at that awesome price and
got a reply:

>> Hi David,
>> Sorry, it's the Mac version only...

Foiled again!

Hummm, if there any Rev marketing folks reading this, perhaps you
might consider a special sale or alternate upgrade/add on pack on the
Linux version for folks like myself, that already have one platform
and only want one more.

Upgrading to RevEnterprise is always an option of course, but I have
no need for the extra "features" and even less of a need or desire for
the Mac version. The studio to enterprise requires a pretty hefty
upgrade fee for features and capabilities that I do not need or want.
(Sorry about that to all of you Mac folks... no harm intended.)
;-)

The really funny/crazy thing in all of this is that I originally
purchased the old DreamCard version -> for Linux <- because that has
been my preferred O/S for 6-7 years. After using DC for less than a
week, I was sold on Rev completely and quicklyupgraded to Studio.
Unfortunately, I got the Windows version because of all of the work I
do for my employer. (windows based shop).

These days I just keep sitting patiently on the sideline hoping for an
eventual bargain so I can work in Linux.


Best regards,
David C.
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Re: Deleted Files

[Dan Friedman]

Bob,

I am using the "put" because I am writing to a ftp web server.   So I need to 
pass a username and password.

How would I rename the file on a remote server?  Also, how would you suggest I 
go about this?  I could end up in a endless error check...

rename the original file
write the data
if error then
  rename the original file back
  if error then
then what?

What do you think?

-Dan


> After reading a bit more of your original post, I think I understand that you 
> are creating an XML file each time you do a PUT? If so, are you "PUTTING" to 
> the same file name each time? If so, then if the command fails for some 
> reason the file system would delete the original, and then the new file, 
> having failed would never get to the server. It might be better to rename the 
> original, "PUT" the new XML file, verify the existence of the file after 
> "PUTTING" it, then delete the old one. 
> 
> I'm curious why you are using this command and not the low level file 
> commands:
> open file
> read from file
> write to file
> close file
> 
> Bear in mind I'm not an expert on low level file commands. I am simply 
> curious about your method. 
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
>> Thank you VERY much for the insight.  I really need some help resolving this 
>> problem.  However
>> 
>>> Volume Corruption
>> 
>> On one file only?  I suppose that possible, but I think it's pretty unlikely.
>> 
>>> File was not saved where you thought it was saved. 
>> 
>> Then why would the original file have been deleted?
>> 
>>> User or app appears to have saved the file but in reality, didn't. 
>> 
>> Again, why would the original file have been deleted?
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Filter command not working with tabs??

[Bob Sneidar]

Hi all. I cannot see what I am doing wrong here. Try this yourselves. In the 
message box put:

put "test" & tab & tab & return & \
"sw_" & tab & tab & return & \
"sw_test3" & tab & "<" & tab & return into theDropData
put tab & tab into theFilter
filter theDropData without theFilter
put theDropData

I get:
test
sw_ 
sw_test3<   

NOTICE if you will, that lines 1 & 2 have 2 tabs together, and 3 does not. The 
filter command here should give me just line 3 shouldn't it??

Perhaps I do not understand the filter command or regular expressions very 
well, but the command reference seems to indicate that I should filter out all 
the lines that do not contain two tabs, but it is not doing this. It looks for 
all the world like the filter command is completely ignoring tabs in the 
expression!

Bob


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Re: Filter command not working with tabs??

[Mark Wieder]

Bob-

Try

> filter theDropData without "*" & theFilter & "*"

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Re: Filter command not working with tabs??

[Mark Schonewille]

Hi Bob,


filter theDropData without "*" & theFilter & "*"



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On 3 jun 2010, at 00:18, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Hi all. I cannot see what I am doing wrong here. Try this  
yourselves. In the message box put:


put "test" & tab & tab & return & \
"sw_" & tab & tab & return & \
"sw_test3" & tab & "<" & tab & return into theDropData
put tab & tab into theFilter
filter theDropData without theFilter
put theDropData

I get:
test
sw_ 
sw_test3<

NOTICE if you will, that lines 1 & 2 have 2 tabs together, and 3  
does not. The filter command here should give me just line 3  
shouldn't it??


Perhaps I do not understand the filter command or regular  
expressions very well, but the command reference seems to indicate  
that I should filter out all the lines that do not contain two tabs,  
but it is not doing this. It looks for all the world like the filter  
command is completely ignoring tabs in the expression!


Bob


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Re: Deleted Files

[Bob Sneidar]

Sorry Dan I missed the remote aspect of things. I was thinking you were on a 
local area network using a file share. 

I believe there are FTP commands to rename files. I'm not certain though. 
Assuming you can, it is doubtful an FTP server would allow the first file 
rename but not the second, should the new write fail. Also, doesn't the FTP 
server respond if there is an error with the command? I mean, you can never 
completely guarantee a remote site will still be there a split second later, 
but I think it would go more like this (pseudo wise):

open connection
check result 
if ok, see if file exists with same name as the one you are going to write
if it does, rename the old file
check the result
if ok, write new file
check the result
if ok, delete renamed file
if error anywhere either reconnect and try again, or bail out. 

At least you will have the renamed file sitting there in the odd circumstance 
that there was a disconnect. You can have a repeat loop that tries x number of 
times, that exits if everything works or the counter gets to x. And you would 
be able to tell if your SEND command was actually failing, because you would 
have a renamed file, but no new file. 

Bob


On Jun 2, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Dan Friedman wrote:

> Bob,
> 
> I am using the "put" because I am writing to a ftp web server.   So I need to 
> pass a username and password.
> 
> How would I rename the file on a remote server?  Also, how would you suggest 
> I go about this?  I could end up in a endless error check...
> 
> rename the original file
> write the data
> if error then
>  rename the original file back
>  if error then
>then what?
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> -Dan

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Re: Filter command not working with tabs??

[Bob Sneidar]

Dangit! I think I already asked this one a couple weeks ago!  I remember 
now. 

Bob


On Jun 2, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Mark Wieder wrote:

> Bob-
> 
> Try
> 
>> filter theDropData without "*" & theFilter & "*"
> 
> -- 
> -Mark Wieder
> mwie...@ahsoftware.net
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Re: Filter command not working with tabs??

[Jim Ault]

The filter command works on wildcards, not regex

Your filter definition = keep lines that are not exactly "tabtab"

You might be thinking
put "*" & tab & tab & "*" into theFiliter
= which means keep lines that do not have at least two tabs in sequence

On Jun 2, 2010, at 3:18 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Hi all. I cannot see what I am doing wrong here. Try this  
yourselves. In the message box put:


put "test" & tab & tab & return & \
"sw_" & tab & tab & return & \
"sw_test3" & tab & "<" & tab & return into theDropData
put tab & tab into theFilter
filter theDropData without theFilter
put theDropData

I get:
test
sw_ 
sw_test3<

NOTICE if you will, that lines 1 & 2 have 2 tabs together, and 3  
does not. The filter command here should give me just line 3  
shouldn't it??


Perhaps I do not understand the filter command or regular  
expressions very well, but the command reference seems to indicate  
that I should filter out all the lines that do not contain two tabs,  
but it is not doing this. It looks for all the world like the filter  
command is completely ignoring tabs in the expression!


Bob


Jim Ault
Las Vegas



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Re: inconsistent field appearance

[Nicolas Cueto]

Terry,

Have had a chance now to test your function on XP and Vista. It worked!!

Plus, studying closely your code, learnt about some new Rev commands/functions.

Again, thank you.

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Re: inconsistent field appearance

[tsj]

On 3/06/10 9:06 AM, "Nicolas Cueto"  wrote:

> Terry,
> 
> Have had a chance now to test your function on XP and Vista. It worked!!
> 
> Plus, studying closely your code, learnt about some new Rev
> commands/functions.
> 
> Again, thank you.

My pleasure - glad it helped.

Terry...

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Medical Education Unit
Faculty of Medicine, Dentistry & Health Sciences
The University of Melbourne



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Re: Deleted Files

[Richard Gaskin]

Dan Friedman wrote:

> How would I rename the file on a remote server?

libURL does it's magic with FTP, and FTP does its magic with a set of 
commands available for the protocol, including two for renaming files:





Thankfully, Dave Cragg opens the door to use any of them with the libURL 
call "libUrlFtpCommand" - e.g., to rename a file:


  get  libUrlFtpCommand("RNFR mydomain.com/file.dat",\
   "myserver.com","myFtpLogin","myPassword")

  get  libUrlFtpCommand("RNTO mycomain.com/newname.dat",\
   "myserver.com","myFtpLogin","myPassword")


Wonderfully detailed notes on everything in libURL here:


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Launch an app on a remote server

[Ray Horsley]

Greetings,

Anybody know how to do this?

Thanks,

Ray

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Re: Launch an app on a remote server

[Sarah Reichelt]

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Ray Horsley  wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Anybody know how to do this?


I think we need more information here
What OS is running on the server and on your local computer?
What sort of app do you need to start: a headless CGI type app, or a
full application.

I have used AppleScript on a Mac to operate on an AppleScript I
installed on a networked Mac to stop & start a particular application.
If that sounded useful, I could probably dig up the scripts, although
it was a long time ago.

Cheers,
Sarah
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send problem

[Nicolas Cueto]

Hello,

In my stack's opencard handler the last line is "send mouseUp to field
x" . There's other things happening in the handler before then, too.

Problem is, after the stack opens, the message box appears, displays
the word "exit", and field x's mouseUp doesn't run. But if I click on
field x, then the mouseUp handler works.

What have I overlooked?

Thanks.

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Re: send problem

[Sarah Reichelt]

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Nicolas Cueto  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In my stack's opencard handler the last line is "send mouseUp to field
> x" . There's other things happening in the handler before then, too.
>
> Problem is, after the stack opens, the message box appears, displays
> the word "exit", and field x's mouseUp doesn't run. But if I click on
> field x, then the mouseUp handler works.

I seem to remember having problems like this in the past.
The workaround is not to use a system event as the message you are sending.

Change your field script so it has a separate handler. e.g.

on mouseUp
 doMouseUpStuff
end mouseUp

command doMouseUpStuff
   -- put the script in here
end doMouseUpStuff

Then in your openCard handler, send "doMouseUpStuff" to the field
instead of mouseUp.

Cheers,
Sarah
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Re: Download queue with libURL

[Sarah Reichelt]

On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Terry Vogelaar  wrote:
> I can't figure out what is wrong with this script:
>
> on wachtrij
>   global kjoejoe
>   if line 1 of kjoejoe <> "" then
>      put line 1 of kjoejoe && the number of lines of kjoejoe
>      set the itemdel to tab
>      switch item 1 of line 1 of kjoejoe
>         case "up"
>            libURLftpUploadFile item 2 of line 1 of kjoejoe, item 3 of line 1
> of kjoejoe, "wachtrij"
>            break
>         case "down"
>            libURLDownloadToFile item 2 of line 1 of kjoejoe, item 3 of line
> 1 of kjoejoe, "wachtrij"
>      end switch
>      delete line 1 of kjoejoe
>   end if
> end wachtrij


I think the problem is that when you issue a call to
libURLftpUploadFile or libURLDownloadToFile with a callback, the
processing doesn't stop & wait. So I think all the uploads & downloads
are trying to start at the same time, so the later ones are failing.

I usually have 2 routines called something like startTransfer and
transferComplete.

startTransfer takes the first line in the queue and starts processing
it, with transferComplete as the callback.
transferComplete checks the result and it is all worked OK, it deletes
the first line of the queue and then calls startTransfer again if the
queue is not empty.

Also check out libURLSetStatusCallback and libURLSetLogField which are
both really useful for debugging and keeping people informed as to the
progress or the file transfers.

HTH,
Sarah
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Re: RevSudio on sale for $50

[Jerry Daniels]

Mark,

tRev has been working with RevMedia for some time now. Didn't at first.

Best,

Jerry Daniels

Use tRev's buy link during your 7 day free trial to get 20% off:
http://reveditor.com/tag/shouldiswitch

On Jun 2, 2010, at 1:13 PM, Mark Swindell wrote:

When I tried RevMedia with tRev there was a problem where tRev  
wouldn't access the scripts


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Re: send problem

[Nicolas Cueto]

Thanks, Sarah. That worked.

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Re: Deleted Files

[Kay C Lan]

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Bob Sneidar  wrote:

>
> I'm curious why you are using this command and not the low level file
> commands:
> open file
> read from file
> write to file
> close file
>
> Bear in mind I'm not an expert on low level file commands. I am simply
> curious about your method.
>
> There could be two reasons. Firstly this Tip at the bottom of the
Dictionary entries for the above 4 commands:

Tip:  As an alternative to the open file, read from file, and write to
> filecommands, you can also use the URLkeyword with get, put, and other
> commands to access the contents of a file.
>

Personally, if it's a Tip, it suggest to me that it's a better way to do
something. My understanding by using 'put someData into URL "
ftp://www.mySite.net' you avoid the need to open and close a file, plus, as
mentioned, you get to work with servers.

Additionally, you avoid this problem, as mentioned in the dictionary:

Important: before opening any file for writing to, remember to back up the
> file contents as Revolution will erase them even if you don't write to the
> file after opening it.
>

Does seem important.
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Re: Launch an app on a remote server

[Ray Horsley]

Sarah,

Thanks for your input.  It's a Windows server and I'm simply trying to  
launch a stand alone made with Rev.  (I'm not sure how to build CGI's  
with Rev nor am I exactly sure how they differ.)  The AppleScript idea  
probably won't work since it's a Windows server.  I was thinking  
somebody might know of a shell command or something.


Thanks,

Ray


On Jun 2, 2010, at 7:45 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote:


On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Ray Horsley  wrote:

Greetings,

Anybody know how to do this?



I think we need more information here
What OS is running on the server and on your local computer?
What sort of app do you need to start: a headless CGI type app, or a
full application.

I have used AppleScript on a Mac to operate on an AppleScript I
installed on a networked Mac to stop & start a particular application.
If that sounded useful, I could probably dig up the scripts, although
it was a long time ago.

Cheers,
Sarah
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