Re: html entities
Yeah, looks like a lookup table of some kind is my best bet. Thanks for the suggestions. Chris On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:34 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 10/29/10 11:11 AM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: >> I should have been more clear. Use the ampersand and semicolon to locate >> the original char in the source text. Convert that char with the charToNum >> function. > > Except that the htmltext doesn't return characters you can convert in these > cases, it returns constants that html recognizes, like "acute" and "mdash", > etc. Chris will need a lookup table, I think. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
html entities
Got a small problem and wondering if there's any way around it. When getting the htmlText of a field, is there any way to make Rev/LiveCode return the numeric html entities of special characters? So for example, if I have a word in Spanish, like "día" (accented i), if I put that into a text field and get the htmlText property of that field, is there any way to return the string "día" instead of "día"? When setting the htmlText property, either one works, but Rev always returns the latter. Thoughts? Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac standalones (Rev 4.0) don't run under Jaguar (10.2.8)
After doing a little more research, it appears that a standalone built with Rev 3.5 does indeed work just fine running under 10.2. One built with Rev 4.0 does not. So does anyone know if Rev dropped support for 10.2 when they released 4.0. If so, why is the Jaguar theme support plugin still part of the app bundle? I will probably end up writing to Rev support about this, but thought I'd ask here first. Responses tend to be a little faster in arriving. Thanks again. On Jun 15, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: > Not sure if anyone out there is even still supporting Jaguar with their apps, > but we are (schools tend to take forever to upgrade equipment/operating > systems). We are in the process of doing an update to our software. We > switched to Rev 4.0 for this update in order to fix a few bugs. > Unfortunately, it's looking like standalones built with Rev 4.0 do not run > under Jaguar. We're getting the infamous bouncing icon in the dock and then > it crashes. Is anyone else seeing this? The jaguar_theme_support bundle is > still in the Plugins folder in the app bundle, so I'm assuming this issue is > not intentional (in other words, RunRev have not intentionally dropped > support for 10.2.x). This > > It seems like we've had this happen in the past, where switching to a new > version of Rev caused a problem like this. What I can't remember though is if > there ended up being an easy fix for it, or if we had to revert to a previous > version of Rev. I've checked permissions on the app bundle, which is usually > the cause of such behavior, but everything looks fine to me. I've compared > the info.plist files between the previous version of our app (built with Rev > 3.0) and this version (built with 4.0) and the only differences are version > information. Everything seems to be correct there. So I'm worried it's an > engine problem. > > Can anyone shed some light on this? Any ideas as to what I could try to make > it work? We're in a bit of a pickle if we can't get this to work. > > Thanks, > Chris > > > -- > Chris Sheffield > Read Naturally, Inc. > www.readnaturally.com > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Mac standalones (Rev 4.0) don't run under Jaguar (10.2.8)
Not sure if anyone out there is even still supporting Jaguar with their apps, but we are (schools tend to take forever to upgrade equipment/operating systems). We are in the process of doing an update to our software. We switched to Rev 4.0 for this update in order to fix a few bugs. Unfortunately, it's looking like standalones built with Rev 4.0 do not run under Jaguar. We're getting the infamous bouncing icon in the dock and then it crashes. Is anyone else seeing this? The jaguar_theme_support bundle is still in the Plugins folder in the app bundle, so I'm assuming this issue is not intentional (in other words, RunRev have not intentionally dropped support for 10.2.x). This It seems like we've had this happen in the past, where switching to a new version of Rev caused a problem like this. What I can't remember though is if there ended up being an easy fix for it, or if we had to revert to a previous version of Rev. I've checked permissions on the app bundle, which is usually the cause of such behavior, but everything looks fine to me. I've compared the info.plist files between the previous version of our app (built with Rev 3.0) and this version (built with 4.0) and the only differences are version information. Everything seems to be correct there. So I'm worried it's an engine problem. Can anyone shed some light on this? Any ideas as to what I could try to make it work? We're in a bit of a pickle if we can't get this to work. Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revlet newbie questions
So I'm just now playing with revlets, and was hoping to be able to convert an existing desktop app to a revlet, just as kind of a proof of concept thing. So far I'm striking out. Running on a Mac, OS X 10.6.2, it's totally locking up Firefox and, while Safari doesn't lock up, the revlet doesn't load properly. I just get a blank screen. This is a fairly complex desktop app, basically a front end to a mysql database, so I'm sure there is simply code in there that will not run in a revlet. So I'm wondering, is there a good, single source out there somewhere that lists what works and what doesn't work in a revlet? Things to avoid in revlets? One thing I discovered is that the "go stack" command is supported in a revlet, but I can't seem to make it work unless I use the "go stack in window" form. Is that the only way to do it? This app consists of several stack files, not substacks of one main stack, but rather several main stack files that are opened and closed depending on what the user is doing. Is that a problem in a revlet? Is it necessary to build each stack file into a revlet, or can they remain in their regular stack file and still be loaded using "go stack" from the first stack, which would be built as a revlet? I've noticed in the Rev documentation that the "Class" column lists whether or not handlers work in a revlet, but is there some way to filter the list? I don't seem to be able to. The search field seems to only search on the handler/property names. What would be really nice, and I suppose I could do this myself if I had the time right now, would be a little plugin for Rev that could scan through an open stack and spit out a list of the "incompatilities" with revlets that appear in that stack. Any takers? If not, can someone point me to a "step-by-step" revlet guide? Hopefully I'm not asking too much. :-) Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
strange option menu behavior
I may be doing something that option menus were not intended for, so I want to
check if others are seeing the same behavior.
Using Rev 4.0, I'm creating an option menu in a stack with all the possible
menu items I need in it. However, some of these menu items need to be disabled
at different points. So I'm simply running a "disable menuitem 2" command, and
that works great on the Mac side. But when I do this on the Windows side, the
menu items do not appear disabled, and they're displaying the "(" before the
"disabled" items. What's strange, though, is when I select one of these items,
my menuPick handler does not fire, but the menuHistory of the button changes to
the item I selected. So there's kind of some weird mixed behavior going on.
Anyone else seeing this? Is it normal? Is there a workaround? Should I not be
using an option menu this way?
Thanks for any suggestions.
Chris
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Re: parental control problems - Mac OS X
For anyone interested in this, I'm not sure what changed between Rev 3.0 and Rev 4.0, but this problem seems to disappear when building our standalone with Rev 4.0. We first discovered that the problem only occurred when building for Universal Binary. An Intel-only build did not have the problem (that was with Rev 3.0). So we decided at that point just to try a build with Rev 4.0 (Universal Binary) and that seemed to work just fine. Not the most ideal solution, as we had to do a special build to send to some customers, but at least we found a solution. Just thought I'd let you all know. And thanks to all those who replied with suggestions. Chris On Jan 28, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote: > Honestly, I wish that were the case, but I don't think so. This is the same > build of our app that has been running for nearly a year now (updated last > April). We've had no reports of this problem until just recently, which makes > me think some security update changed something in parental controls that's > causing this problem. Again, why it only happens on Rev-built apps, I don't > know. > > On Jan 28, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > >> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:47 AM, Chris Sheffield >> wrote: >>> Jacque, >>> >>> Here's some more info from our end. Not sure if everyone is experiencing >>> this same behavior or not, but in our case, the executable inside the app >>> bundle is actually getting damaged. We compared an app that had been >>> launched with parental controls enabled for it and one that hadn't, and the >>> one that had was about 1 MB smaller. When trying to launch the executable >>> directly from Terminal, we get a file read error. So in this case, it looks >>> like no amount of messing with permissions is going to fix the problem. The >>> file is toast at that point. >> >> >> Is your app trying to write a file, being denied permission, so >> over-writing the executable instead? >> I encountered this with an app that was writing a preferences file >> with the same name as the executable. When the path was set >> incorrectly, the executable got replaced. >> >> Cheers, >> Sarah >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parental control problems - Mac OS X
Honestly, I wish that were the case, but I don't think so. This is the same build of our app that has been running for nearly a year now (updated last April). We've had no reports of this problem until just recently, which makes me think some security update changed something in parental controls that's causing this problem. Again, why it only happens on Rev-built apps, I don't know. On Jan 28, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 4:47 AM, Chris Sheffield > wrote: >> Jacque, >> >> Here's some more info from our end. Not sure if everyone is experiencing >> this same behavior or not, but in our case, the executable inside the app >> bundle is actually getting damaged. We compared an app that had been >> launched with parental controls enabled for it and one that hadn't, and the >> one that had was about 1 MB smaller. When trying to launch the executable >> directly from Terminal, we get a file read error. So in this case, it looks >> like no amount of messing with permissions is going to fix the problem. The >> file is toast at that point. > > > Is your app trying to write a file, being denied permission, so > over-writing the executable instead? > I encountered this with an app that was writing a preferences file > with the same name as the executable. When the path was set > incorrectly, the executable got replaced. > > Cheers, > Sarah > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parental control problems - Mac OS X
Thanks for the suggestions Scott. I think we're already doing the permissions part, as our installer is taking care of that. But I will verify. As for selecting our app in Parental Controls, that part is also being done. What's strange is, the corruption does not occur *until* we try to run the app under a managed account. It's not the process of selecting the app in Parental Controls. As soon as you try to launch it under the managed student account, the launch fails and the corruption occurs. Very, very weird behavior. Chris On Jan 28, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: > Recently, Chris Sheffield wrote: > >> I'm wondering if anyone has run into this problem and, if so, what the >> possible fix would be. We have several customers (schools) reporting a >> problem >> with our Rev-built application when trying to implement parental controls on >> managed student accounts. Here's what's happening. When installing the >> application under an admin account (we're using a Vise X installer) >> everything >> appears to work as expected. The admin can launch the app and everything >> works >> fine. Then the admin grants access to our app, via parental controls, to the >> managed student account. After logging in with the student account, >> attempting >> to launch the app results in the infamous bouncing icon in the dock but then >> the app shuts down problem. What's even stranger, though, is that after >> attempting this and then logging back in with the admin account and >> attempting >> to run the app again, it doesn't work for the admin anymore. So it's like by >> attempting to run the app with a managed account, it is breaking something >> system wide. The only recourse at that point is to uninstall and reinstall. > > Hi Chris: > > I don't know if this will work for Rev apps or not, but I have fought for > years with Parental Controls on kids' machines and have done the following > to get apps to launch. Apologies if any of this is basic knowledge for you. > > 1) As admin under System Preferences, look in the user's account and see if > applications are enabled on an item-by-item basis. If yes, the checkbox for > your app needs to be enabled. > > 2) After installing an application as admin, I would get info on the app's > folder bundle (bundle folder?) and change the "You can:" pulldown under > Ownership and Permissions to read/write. I don't know if this is acceptable > in your situation, but it solved every problem install I had with Parental > Controls and I now do this out of habit. > > I do the above on a couple of old eMac systems running (I believe) OS X 10.4 > or thereabouts. I'm not sure if Parental Controls on more recent versions > of the OS works better, or is more intelligent. > > Regards, > > Scott Rossi > Creative Director > Tactile Media, UX Design > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parental control problems - Mac OS X
One more strange piece of information. After allowing our app to be run through Parental Controls, a "_CodeSignature" folder gets created inside the app bundle in the Contents folder. Inside this is a CodeResources folder, which appears to be a plist-style file, except no .plist extension on it. It appears to list the icon files in the Resources folder, as well as a few other things that I'm not sure what they mean. Just thought I'd' mention that if it helps. Is it time to file a bug report do you think? The bad thing is, I'm still not really convinced it's a Revolution problem. But if it is, this is a very serious issue that needs to get fixed asap if it still exists in the current version of Rev. I believe I used Rev 3.0 when I built this particular standalone. I may try a newer version just to see. Chris On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:47 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: > Jacque, > > Here's some more info from our end. Not sure if everyone is experiencing this > same behavior or not, but in our case, the executable inside the app bundle > is actually getting damaged. We compared an app that had been launched with > parental controls enabled for it and one that hadn't, and the one that had > was about 1 MB smaller. When trying to launch the executable directly from > Terminal, we get a file read error. So in this case, it looks like no amount > of messing with permissions is going to fix the problem. The file is toast at > that point. > > Another interesting tidbit of information is that the damage only seems to > occur on Intel machines. On a PPC machine, we still have a problem launching > the app when parental controls are enabled, but all we have to do to fix it > is deselect the app in parental controls. On an Intel machine, this does not > work. The app is built as a universal binary. We're going to try building > only for Intel just to see if there's any difference. > > Again, this seems to only happen with Rev-built apps. Not sure why. > > Chris > > > On Jan 28, 2010, at 10:25 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > >> -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parental control problems - Mac OS X
Jacque, Here's some more info from our end. Not sure if everyone is experiencing this same behavior or not, but in our case, the executable inside the app bundle is actually getting damaged. We compared an app that had been launched with parental controls enabled for it and one that hadn't, and the one that had was about 1 MB smaller. When trying to launch the executable directly from Terminal, we get a file read error. So in this case, it looks like no amount of messing with permissions is going to fix the problem. The file is toast at that point. Another interesting tidbit of information is that the damage only seems to occur on Intel machines. On a PPC machine, we still have a problem launching the app when parental controls are enabled, but all we have to do to fix it is deselect the app in parental controls. On an Intel machine, this does not work. The app is built as a universal binary. We're going to try building only for Intel just to see if there's any difference. Again, this seems to only happen with Rev-built apps. Not sure why. Chris On Jan 28, 2010, at 10:25 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Chris Sheffield wrote: >> After logging in with the student >> account, attempting to launch the app results in the infamous >> bouncing icon in the dock but then the app shuts down problem. What's >> even stranger, though, is that after attempting this and then logging >> back in with the admin account and attempting to run the app again, >> it doesn't work for the admin anymore. So it's like by attempting to >> run the app with a managed account, it is breaking something system >> wide. > > The tech queue is getting questions about this too, and I'm not sure what the > answer is. It isn't related to your filtering program. This works for some: > > Log into Terminal and do sudo chmod 755 on the app bundle. > > You could also try throwing away the OS-generated plist file in Preferences. > > Also try changing the owner of the app in Get Info. > > None of these has proved to be successful for everyone though, and in your > situation it isn't really reasonable to ask your customers to use Terminal. > > The above is from a web page that has other suggestions too: > > <http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10330759-263.html> > > That page is a little old but the Terminal instructions worked in one case I > had. I need to find out more about this. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: parental control problems - Mac OS X
Thanks for the suggestions, Jacque. I'll forward this info to our support team. Chris On Jan 28, 2010, at 10:25 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Chris Sheffield wrote: >> After logging in with the student >> account, attempting to launch the app results in the infamous >> bouncing icon in the dock but then the app shuts down problem. What's >> even stranger, though, is that after attempting this and then logging >> back in with the admin account and attempting to run the app again, >> it doesn't work for the admin anymore. So it's like by attempting to >> run the app with a managed account, it is breaking something system >> wide. > > The tech queue is getting questions about this too, and I'm not sure what the > answer is. It isn't related to your filtering program. This works for some: > > Log into Terminal and do sudo chmod 755 on the app bundle. > > You could also try throwing away the OS-generated plist file in Preferences. > > Also try changing the owner of the app in Get Info. > > None of these has proved to be successful for everyone though, and in your > situation it isn't really reasonable to ask your customers to use Terminal. > > The above is from a web page that has other suggestions too: > > <http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10330759-263.html> > > That page is a little old but the Terminal instructions worked in one case I > had. I need to find out more about this. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: AW: parental control problems - Mac OS X
As far as we know the problem only occurs when customers are using parental controls to control access to our app. If they leave our app deselected in parental controls, which I know doesn't really make sense, then things seem to work okay. It's almost like there's a conflict between file permissions and parental controls. It's very strange. On Jan 28, 2010, at 10:07 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: > Hi Chris, > > I also had some permission issues with weird behaviours on different user > accounts. > > are you sure it is only related with a parental control system, or do you > also have customers without such a control experiencing it? > > Are you developing on Mac or Win? > > Tiemo > >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >> Von: use-revolution-boun...@lists.runrev.com [mailto:use-revolution- >> boun...@lists.runrev.com] Im Auftrag von Chris Sheffield >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. Januar 2010 17:41 >> An: How to use Revolution >> Betreff: parental control problems - Mac OS X >> >> I'm wondering if anyone has run into this problem and, if so, what the >> possible fix would be. We have several customers (schools) reporting a >> problem with our Rev-built application when trying to implement parental >> controls on managed student accounts. Here's what's happening. When >> installing the application under an admin account (we're using a Vise X >> installer) everything appears to work as expected. The admin can launch >> the app and everything works fine. Then the admin grants access to our >> app, via parental controls, to the managed student account. After logging >> in with the student account, attempting to launch the app results in the >> infamous bouncing icon in the dock but then the app shuts down problem. >> What's even stranger, though, is that after attempting this and then >> logging back in with the admin account and attempting to run the app >> again, it doesn't work for the admin anymore. So it's like by attempting >> to run the app with a managed account, it is breaking something system >> wide. The only recourse at that point is to uninstall and reinstall. >> >> It seems like I remember somebody reporting a similar problem a while >> back, but I can't for the life of me find the details. Has anyone seen >> this? If so, is there a solution? Seems permissions-related, but as far as >> I can tell, permissions on the app bundle are set to what they need to be. >> So then I wondered if it might be some strange problem in the info.plist >> file in the app bundle. Could that be a possibility? >> >> The problem seems to be happening on both Leopard and Snow Leopard >> systems. Another thing that's strange is that all of a sudden we're >> getting a lot of support calls about this. It's almost like the most >> recent security update from Apple has caused the problem to appear for us. >> Other non-Rev apps seem to be unaffected, however. >> >> Thanks for any suggestions, >> Chris >> >> >> -- >> Chris Sheffield >> Read Naturally, Inc. >> www.readnaturally.com >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
parental control problems - Mac OS X
I'm wondering if anyone has run into this problem and, if so, what the possible fix would be. We have several customers (schools) reporting a problem with our Rev-built application when trying to implement parental controls on managed student accounts. Here's what's happening. When installing the application under an admin account (we're using a Vise X installer) everything appears to work as expected. The admin can launch the app and everything works fine. Then the admin grants access to our app, via parental controls, to the managed student account. After logging in with the student account, attempting to launch the app results in the infamous bouncing icon in the dock but then the app shuts down problem. What's even stranger, though, is that after attempting this and then logging back in with the admin account and attempting to run the app again, it doesn't work for the admin anymore. So it's like by attempting to run the app with a managed account, it is breaking something system wide. The only recourse at that point is to uninstall and reinstall. It seems like I remember somebody reporting a similar problem a while back, but I can't for the life of me find the details. Has anyone seen this? If so, is there a solution? Seems permissions-related, but as far as I can tell, permissions on the app bundle are set to what they need to be. So then I wondered if it might be some strange problem in the info.plist file in the app bundle. Could that be a possibility? The problem seems to be happening on both Leopard and Snow Leopard systems. Another thing that's strange is that all of a sudden we're getting a lot of support calls about this. It's almost like the most recent security update from Apple has caused the problem to appear for us. Other non-Rev apps seem to be unaffected, however. Thanks for any suggestions, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows title reduced to a single character
I failed to mention that I have this line of code in my startup handler. Not sure if that's required or not. Might be okay to have it in preOpenStack as well. On Jan 28, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: > Hi Sarah, > > I believe this is the workaround we used: > > set the revruntimebehaviour to 4 > > I honestly don't remember the details behind this. It might be documented in > the bug ticket (7290 or 6343). I think this is an undocumented property, and > I'm not entirely sure what the value 4 means. Sorry for being rather vague. > It's also possible that this line of code came to me as a result of emailing > support directly. > > Anyway, hope it helps. > > Chris > > > On Jan 28, 2010, at 3:20 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > >> Has anyone managed to find a work-around to the problem with a stack's >> title being reduced to a single character under Windows, if there is a >> player on the card? This is proving a real blocker for me at the >> moment, despite several bug reports, one of which says it was fixed in >> Rev 3.0. I'm using Rev 4.0 and a pre-release of Rev 4.5 and it's still >> happening there. So far the only solution I have found is to build the >> app using Rev 2.8 which seems a bit ridiculous and causes other >> problems. >> >> For further details see: >> http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6235 >> http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6343 >> http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7290 >> >> Basically, it means that it is impossible to deploy a professional >> looking standalone under Windows if it uses a player. >> >> Checking the archives of this list, I see that Scott Rossi was reduced >> to trying to place a sub-stack over the title bar so as to fake the >> title of the stack but I don't know if that was successful. It >> certainly seems rather extreme for a problem that has supposedly been >> fixed. Mark Waddingham's work-around, suggested in September 2008, of >> setting the revRuntimeBehaviour to 4 does not work, at least not in >> the versions of Rev that I have tested. Maybe it worked in Rev 3. >> >> If this cannot be fixed, then I suggest that it be noted in the docs >> or on the web site that player objects are not fully implemented or >> supported under Windows. And there will then need to be an alternative >> supplied that will do the same job for Windows apps. >> >> >> Miffed having spent hours wrestling with this problem, >> Sarah >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > -- > Chris Sheffield > Read Naturally, Inc. > www.readnaturally.com > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Windows title reduced to a single character
Hi Sarah, I believe this is the workaround we used: set the revruntimebehaviour to 4 I honestly don't remember the details behind this. It might be documented in the bug ticket (7290 or 6343). I think this is an undocumented property, and I'm not entirely sure what the value 4 means. Sorry for being rather vague. It's also possible that this line of code came to me as a result of emailing support directly. Anyway, hope it helps. Chris On Jan 28, 2010, at 3:20 AM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: > Has anyone managed to find a work-around to the problem with a stack's > title being reduced to a single character under Windows, if there is a > player on the card? This is proving a real blocker for me at the > moment, despite several bug reports, one of which says it was fixed in > Rev 3.0. I'm using Rev 4.0 and a pre-release of Rev 4.5 and it's still > happening there. So far the only solution I have found is to build the > app using Rev 2.8 which seems a bit ridiculous and causes other > problems. > > For further details see: > http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6235 > http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=6343 > http://quality.runrev.com/qacenter/show_bug.cgi?id=7290 > > Basically, it means that it is impossible to deploy a professional > looking standalone under Windows if it uses a player. > > Checking the archives of this list, I see that Scott Rossi was reduced > to trying to place a sub-stack over the title bar so as to fake the > title of the stack but I don't know if that was successful. It > certainly seems rather extreme for a problem that has supposedly been > fixed. Mark Waddingham's work-around, suggested in September 2008, of > setting the revRuntimeBehaviour to 4 does not work, at least not in > the versions of Rev that I have tested. Maybe it worked in Rev 3. > > If this cannot be fixed, then I suggest that it be noted in the docs > or on the web site that player objects are not fully implemented or > supported under Windows. And there will then need to be an alternative > supplied that will do the same job for Windows apps. > > > Miffed having spent hours wrestling with this problem, > Sarah > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: regex question in matchChunk function
Thanks to all who replied and offered suggestions. I ended up using the "find" command on my field in order to accomplish what I need. While probably not super speedy, it seems to be working well. Fortunately the story passages are not too long, so the decreased speed is really not that noticeable. Thanks again, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: regex/HTMLText question
Thanks, Craig. Unfortunately, this doesn't quite work either. If I were to run: replace "use" with "useused", which is not the desired result. On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:56 PM, dunb...@aol.com wrote: > Right, thanks to all. > > Chris', your original regex question could better be addressed by: > > on mouseup >get fld "yourField" >replace yourtext with "" & yourtext & "" in it >set the htmltext of fld "yourField" to it > end mouseup > > This would be fast, and easily extendable, since we are just crunching > data. > > Not that there isn't a good regex solution as well... > > Craig Newman > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: regex question in matchChunk function
Thanks, Troy. Unfortunately, offset doesn't quite work for me, as it does not honor the wholeMatches property. So I might search for "use", and it would find both "use" and "used", which is not the desired result. However, with some extra code I could probably make it work (manually checking for punctuation, spaces, etc.). Not pretty, but might work. Thanks again, Chris On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:05 PM, Troy Rollins wrote: > > On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote: > >> Can anyone help? Is there a way to do this? Or can someone recommend another >> method of accomplishing the same thing? > > Offset > > -- > Troy > RPSystems, Ltd. > http://www.rpsystems.net > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
regex question in matchChunk function
I am not very familiar with regular expressions, and I'm wondering if someone
more knowledgeable could give me a hint as to how to accomplish this.
Given a passage of text, I need to find every instance of certain words within
that text and draw a box around them. The box drawing I can handle just fine by
including "box" in the textStyle of the found chunk. But it's finding the
instances that I'm struggling with. Here is my code. Big warning! This should
not be run as is, if anyone wants to attempt it. The second repeat will go
forever.
repeat for each line tWord in tDiffWords
repeat until matchChunk(tStoryText, "(?i)\b(" & tWord & ")\b",
tStartChar, tEndChar) is false
put the textStyle of char tStartChar to tEndChar of fld "StoryText"
into tStyle
if tStyle is empty or tStyle is "plain" then
put "box" into tStyle
else
put comma & "box" after tStyle
end if
set the textStyle of char tStartChar to tEndChar of fld "StoryText"
to tStyle
end repeat
end repeat
What I need is some way to use the matchChunk function and continue the search
where the last search ended. I read through some regex documentation and came
across "\G", but this doesn't seem to work in Rev. But maybe I'm not putting it
in the right place in my search string.
Can anyone help? Is there a way to do this? Or can someone recommend another
method of accomplishing the same thing? Keep in mind that this needs to search
whole words in a story passage, and we're dealing with all kinds of punctuation
here, including hyphens, em dashes, etc.
Thanks,
Chris
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Re: csv parser
Great. Thanks, Alex. This will definitely come in handy. Point taken about using tabs vs. commas as the delimiter. That would be my preference too, but I'm not sure I have control in this case. We'll see. Thanks again, Chris On Nov 13, 2009, at 4:04 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: > Chris Sheffield wrote: >> Wow, it's been a while since I've posted to the list. I first have to say >> congratulations to the Rev team on the release of Rev 4.0. I've been using >> it for a couple days now, and it's looking great. >> >> I was wondering if anyone out there has written a csv parsing library in Rev >> and would be willing to share it. I'm in need of something that will >> read/write values to a csv file. I'll create my own if I have to, but >> obviously it would save me a ton of time if I don't have to. >> >> > Not exactly a library, but there was a fairly extensive thread back in > October 2004 about the perils of the various forms of csv file, and it > included a couple of handlers to read in csv files - I think there was a very > readable and straightforward one from Richard Gaskin, and later there was a > very efficient (but significantly more complex and obscure) version from me, > at > > http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-revolution/2004-October/045495.html > > If you have any control at all, I'd recommend TSV (i.e. TAB Separated Values > rather than Comma SVs). > > -- alex. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
csv parser
Wow, it's been a while since I've posted to the list. I first have to say congratulations to the Rev team on the release of Rev 4.0. I've been using it for a couple days now, and it's looking great. I was wondering if anyone out there has written a csv parsing library in Rev and would be willing to share it. I'm in need of something that will read/write values to a csv file. I'll create my own if I have to, but obviously it would save me a ton of time if I don't have to. Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: How to filter a big list
Jérôme, Are you applying the filter to a text field? If so, try temporarily saving the field to a variable, applying the filter to the variable, then saving the variable back to the field. The speed should increase dramatically. If you're already doing this, I'm afraid I don't have another suggestion. Chris On Oct 19, 2009, at 2:49 PM, Jérôme Rosat wrote: I wish to filter a list which contains approximately 300'000 lines. I try the "filter ... with" command. It's slow. I try the "Repeat for each" loop but it's slower. Is it possible to use the "filter ... with" command and to "force" RunRev to check only one "item" of the line and not the whole line with the "filterPattern" ? Thanks. Jerome ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Re: Launch another app from my standalone
Adrian, Is it possible you've changed the defaultFolder somewhere in your code? That's the only reason I can think of why a command like launch "myApp" wouldn't work. Also, sorry to state the obvious, but just in case, be aware that it is necessary to include the .exe or .app as part of the app's name. Good luck. Chris Sheffield On 8/28/09 8:50 AM, "Adrian Williams" wrote: > Thanks Ray, but I don't want a navigation dialog to select it, I want > the app to launch automatically. > Adrian > > On 28 Aug 2009, at 18:38, Ray Horsley wrote: > >> I'm not having any trouble with: >> >> on mouseUp >> answer file "Pick an application" >> launch it >> end mouseUp >> >> Ray Horsley >> LinkIt! Sofware >> >> On Aug 28, 2009, at 6:42 AM, Adrian Williams wrote: >> >>> A Mac standalone that needs to Launch another .app >>> A Win standalone that needs to Launch another .exe >>> Everything is in the same Folder. >>> The docs just say launch "myApp" but that does nothing. >>> How can I do this? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Adrian >>> __ >>> Club Type >>> http://www.clubtype.co.uk >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> use-revolution mailing list >>> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >>> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >>> subscription preferences: >>> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> subscription preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Passwords in standalone settings not working
Yep, and even before 3.5. I think it's a bug that's existed for a while now. Not sure if there's a report for it or not. On May 29, 2009, at 10:41 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi, Has anyone else noticed that passwords for stack files, set in the standalone settings, are not applied when the standalone is built? I'm using Rev 3.5. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.color-converter.com http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer New: Snapper Screen Recorder 2.0.1 Download at http://snapper.economy-x-talk.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Animate contents of a stack/card to turn like a page
Not sure what the requirements are, but there is a CoreImage page curl transition. This would be Mac only, of course. There's a core image sampler stack located in Resources/Examples of your Revolution folder. Version 2.6 and above I believe. Not sure if there's something similar for Windows or not. Chris On Mar 30, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: mfstuart wrote: I'd like to animate the contents on a stack or a card or even a field, to animate the contents like turning a page of a book/magazine/ newspaper. It would turn from the top-right to bottom-left. Or something like that. This would have to be a cross-platform solution. Q: Can the animation do this? Or Q: can I do this without the animation engine, and do it with the RunRev engine alone? If so how? Good news: the "answer effect" command gives you access to QuickTime's transition dialog, which provides a stunning variety of transition effects. Bad news: page turning isn't among them.* :( I good page-curling transition would be nice to have, but I'm not sue it could even be done with an external (is there an API for imaging unopened cards?). You might consider submitting a request for that. In the meantime, you may have to make due with something like the "push" effect for now. * Also absent from that QT dialog is the Ken Burns effect, in which images are moved, zoomed, and faded simultaneously during the transition. It's a gorgeous effect, and since it's used in multiple apps in OS X I suspect there's an API for it somewhere. But it's not in the QT dialog we get with "answer effect", and I've found no way to emulate it in scripting. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Revolution training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Does ctrl+q work?
This doesn't necessarily require the menu builder. If you simply have a File menu in your stack with a Quit menu item, making sure that Ctrl- Q can be used to fire the menu item, build a standalone for Windows using Rev 3.0 and see if it works. In fact, you don't necessarily even have to have a menu. Simply place a commandKeyDown handler in your card or stack script, with a put or answer command so you can see what key gets pressed. Then press control and any other key. You'll see that any key besides 'q' works. Very strange. Thanks, Chris On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Chris- Friday, March 6, 2009, 3:42:07 PM, you wrote: Thanks, Mark. Unfortunately we're talking about the behavior in a standalone, not the IDE. Oh. Ouch - I missed reading that part. Well, I haven't used the menu builder in years, so I won't be much help here. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Does ctrl+q work?
Thanks, Mark. Unfortunately we're talking about the behavior in a standalone, not the IDE. On Mar 6, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Chris- Try dumping your preferences file. I have to do that regularly to get control-C working again after the prefs eat it. pita. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Does ctrl+q work?
I'm wondering if someone could try this for me just so I know it's not something I'm doing wrong. 1. Using Rev 3.0, create a new stack. 2. Use the menu builder to create a new menu. Just use the default settings for the menu bar, hit the autoscript button. Verify that Ctrl/ Cmd+Q is set as the keyboard shortcut for the File->Quit menu item. 3. Add a "quit" command to the script for the Quit menu item. 4. Build the app for Windows. 5. When you run it, does pressing Ctrl+q on the keyboard work to quit your app? This is not working for me, and I know it has in the past. I think it's a bug in Rev 3.0, but I want to confirm that first. The thing that's strange is that there doesn't appear to be any good workaround for it, as it seems that the commandKeyDown message does not fire at all when pressing the q key. It does with other letters, however. I've tested this in my stack's script. Maybe there's something I could do with rawKeyDown. That's the only other route I haven't tried. Other suggestions would be most welcome. Thanks. -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Good looking examples of applications built with Revolution
Hi Ben, Read Naturally was fully developed in Revolution (www.readnaturally.com). I work for Read Naturally (that's the name of the company as well as the name of our flagship product) as the primary developer. I don't know that I would go so far as to say it has "an impressive modern user interface", however, as it is definitely due for a revamping in that area. But it is one example of a very successful commercial product. Visit this page http://www.readnaturally.com/products/se2evalrequest.htm to download a fully functional evaluation. Give me a holler if you have more questions. Chris On Feb 17, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote: I know that this must be an FAQ, but I've not been able to find that handy list I'm looking for. It's that time again: considering what development approach to take on a new project, which requires a cross-platform well connected desktop app with a slick UI, for a wide consumer audience. The arguments about development efficiency of Rev are well understood; there's no doubt that Rev can do all the tasks that will be needed; the question mark over Rev, as compared to the other two routes being considered, is evidence of good looking, slick, user interfaces. (A shocking indictment of my own work, of course, but then my work has always concentrated on functionality.) So, here's that question again: I'm looking for examples of actual applications (not just sample stacks, tool stacks etc), built in Rev, that can be pointed to as demonstrating that people have used Rev to distribute products with an impressive modern user interface. I'm sure that they're out there - I just don't know where. Please send examples, links, or lists - whether your own work or others - either to me directly or to the list as you prefer. Many thanks, - Ben ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: DOS window and shell function
Set the hideConsoleWindows to true. :-) Chris On Dec 3, 2008, at 1:10 PM, Devin Asay wrote: I'm doing a project in which I need to call a DOS shell script. It all works great, but the DOS terminal window briefly appears and disappears. This doesn't happen in OS X--the shell script just executes silently. Does anyone know if there is a way to get rid of the annoying DOS terminal window flash? (Win XP, Rev 3.0) Thanks, Devin Devin Asay Humanities Technology and Research Support Center Brigham Young University ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rev 3 Player/Stack Title Bug - Help?
Does setting the title in a preOpenStack handler make any difference? On Nov 19, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Scott Rossi wrote: Recently, Scott Rossi wrote: If you see what I see, the stack's title (in the titlebar) changes to "A"; the title in the inspector does change. ...does NOT change. Sorry for the typo (frustration evident). Thanks & Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Director Tactile Media, Multimedia & Design ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: building a installer with rev
Tiemo, Speaking from experience, while you can certainly create your own installer using Rev, it ends up being a fair amount of work. You could save a lot of time using another installer tool. Most installers (InnoSetup for one, and it's totally free) will allow you to keep your files external to the installer. In other words, you can opt not to compress the files, and have the installer do a simple copy action instead. Simply use the "external" flag. That way, your app could still run straight from the DVD, but you'd also have an easy interface for allowing the user to copy files to HD. If you're not familiar with InnoSetup, I recommend using ISTool, a third-party interface that provides a lot of extra functionality that you would otherwise have to script yourself. HTH, Chris Sheffield On Nov 14, 2008, at 1:54 AM, Tiemo Hollmann TB wrote: Hello, I have read the archives about this issue, but didn't found an answer to my specific needs. Perhaps somebody can give me some advice. What I want to do is to distribute my app on DVD-ROM for Mac and Win. It is heavily based on Videos (7.5GB), that's why the medium is not a CD-ROM, but a double layer DVD-9. My app should be runable direct from DVD-ROM (on Win with autostart), that's why I can't have any packaged/zipped content on the DV-ROM. So far no problem. Now I want to supply the user that he can also install / copy the whole app on HD to be independent of the DVD-ROM. Here I have some open questions. On Mac: - The easiest way would be to tell the user, that he just can copy the whole DVD-ROM into any folder on HD and that's it. I think to provide a "copyAll-setup" wouldn't bring much more comfort - Are there any issues, not to do this, or what the user would expect coming along with a HD install (like a desktop alias on Win)? On Win: - All installers I have seen so far want to compress/zip the content of my app on the medium and do an unzip while installing. Because all my files have to be runable from DVD, they can't be compressed and I can't use any installer (like innosetup or installgadget or stuffit) Do you know any installer, which just can copy the files without having them packaged before? So my thought was to create my own setup with rev, which just copies all the content of my DVD to HD, I don't need any drivers, registry settings or things like that, just a full copy. - If I would offer the user to install into the standard C:\program files, how will Vista give me the privilege of admin rights to copy to that destination? I have read sometime before, that Vista just recognizes a setup from the name "setup.exe". Is this true and sufficient? How to prevent from being virtualized? - How can I create an alias on the desktop and startmenu to my app with rev? Is it possible at all? - How to create an uninstall? After having deleted all my files in C:\programm files\ (what thinks Vista about that?), how do I delete "myself" (the uninstall.exe) Never done such a thing before. - Are there any other issues, I haven't thought about yet and I should tell the win user also, just to copy the DVD wherever he wants to and has to care about it for himself? Thanks for your experience and recommendations Tiemo ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: List of all possible messages?
If you're using Rev 3.0, you can also simply open the Dictionary, then under the Language disclosure on the left, select Message. :-) On Oct 8, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Michael, Try this in the message box: put the commandNames & cr & the functionNames & cr & the propertyNames It might also be interesting for you to search the dictionary for "names". You will see that there are also driverNames, constantNames etc. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz Dutch forum: http://runrev.info/rrforum/ Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 8 okt 2008, at 20:45, Michael wrote: Hi: I was wondering if there was an explicit list somewhere of all possible messages that can be sent in Rev? Thanks, m ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Urgent! Standalone Problem!!!
Custom property set cRevStandaloneSettings, then the name property within that set. Make sure you have "Rev UI elements appear in lists" checked in Rev prefs or you won't be able to see it in the prop inspector. So something like: put the cRevStandaloneSettings["name"] of this stack into tStandaloneName should get you what you want. Hope that helps Chris On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:54 PM, Dave wrote: Hi, I need to get the name of the Standalone Application when I'm running in IDE mode. I have a standaloneSaved handler that sets vital information for the Standalone after is has been saved, The main problem is that the standaloneSaved handler is passed the name of the Standalone folder in which the new folder for the applications (Mac and Windows) have been saved, e.g. /StandAloneFolder/ Whereas what would be really useful would be the folder that is created to store the Standalone Application, e.g. /StandAloneFolder/AppName/ Which contains: MacOSX Windows I either the folder name or I need to be able to get the Standalone Settings for the Application where the name of the Application is stored. Does anyone have any idea on how to solve this? All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
not getting my posts
For some reason I'm not getting my own posts even though in my settings I've opted to do so. Anyone else having this problem? And no, they're not getting stuck in my spam/junk folder. -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OS9 standalone builds
Hmm, it used to be possible to download old versions from their ftp site at ftp://ftp.runrev.com. But I just tried and it looks like the "pub" folder is now empty. Anyone? On Sep 18, 2008, at 1:17 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Richard, I started using Rev. with 2.7, so how do I get a copy of 2.6.1? It might be a good idea if this were made common knowledge some way or another, so we don't beat our heads against a stone wall trying to do Classic with later versions of Rev. TIA, Joe Wilkins On Sep 18, 2008, at 11:40 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Jeff Reynolds wrote: is the classic build going to be frozen at 2.6.1 for good now? ... i still have to create mac classic stanalones for the school cdroms as its still a significant market in the elementary schools still holding onto older macs and not going to osx with them... I have not been working on these cdroms for the last 6 months, but will need to be upgrading some old ones and creating new grade levels of others and wondering if its ok to move the software line to 3.0 from 2.6.1 at this time or wait. i purposely froze these projects on 2.6.1 to keep compatibility for building classic standalones. our mulitmedia cdroms are pretty simple and seem to be very happy currently with 2.6.1 builds on mac and pc, but am aware we may be just new system version away from that being true at any point here... The nice thing about supporting Classic is that it's frozen in time, just like the Rev engine for it appears to be. Apple isn't likely to do anything more for Classic, so the Rev 2.6.1 is expected to run as long as your hardware holds out. -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See <http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html> Joe Lewis Wilkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
PCWorld
Way to go RunRev. I may be wrong, but this is the first time in my memory that there has been an announcement on PCWorld. http://www.pcworld.com/article/150946/.html?tk=rss_news Congratulations! Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: semi-OT: can Rev pre-populate data on a web form?
Just wanted to write and say thanks to Trevor, Ben, and Jim. Using the
web form is working great. I just needed a little push in the right
direction, and I got it here. So thanks for the suggestions.
Chris
On Sep 5, 2008, at 3:28 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:
Chris Sheffield wrote:
So my main question is, can Rev send data to a web form like this
in such a way that whatever fields we specify will be populated
when the browser/form opens? Not sure if something like this is
even possible. I haven't done enough web development to know. Is
some special JavaScript required to accomplish this? In thinking
this through a little more, if we have a web form that's already
set up to send an email, can't I take advantage of that in Rev by
creating my own form and then sending the data straight to the cgi
behind the form? Once again, I haven't done much web dev, so I may
not even know what I'm talking about. :-)
If anyone can help or can offer any other suggestions for how to
accomplish something similar, it'd be much appreciated.
If I've understood your request correctly, you really want a Rev
stack to
collect some information from the user, and have it arrive at your
server in
the form of an email. There's a simple way to get what you want, I
think.
Using the SMTP libraries should make this possible, but has some
issues, in
particular your rev stack then needs to know the address of a mail
server it
can use from within the user's network to send email. But if you
have a web
form on your server that's successfully sending email where you want
it,
there's no need to open a user's browser to view it. Instead, Rev can
effectively be that web form.
(Apologies if what follows is teaching my granny to suck eggs.) If
you look at
the source of the web page, it will contain a "form" element with an
action
and a method. The action is the address of a server-side resource
(a script
etc) which receives the values entered into the form and processes
it, in this
case by sending an email. The method is either POST or GET. If
it's GET,
then the resource expects the values in the URL string, eg if I fill
in this
simple form
my browser will next fetch a URL like this:
./formmail.cgi?first=Ben&last=Rubinstein
(the first part of the URL being constructed based on the URL of the
page
holding the form, adjusted by the 'action' of the form.)
Lecture over; the point is that executing
put "./formmail.cgi?first=Ben&last=Rubinstein" into tURL
get URL tURL
or perhaps more likely
put "./formmail.cgi" into tScriptURL
put tScriptURL \
& "?first=" & tFirstName \
& "&last=" & tLastName \
into tURL
get URL tURL
in your Rev stack will have exactly* the same effect on the
'formmail.cgi'
resource as the user entering those details into their browser. At
this point
Rev is acting like a browser, making a request of the web server.
So no need
to open an actual browser.
If the form uses the POST method instead, then it's only slightly more
complicated. Instead of get URL, you need to use the "post"
command, which
will look something more like this:
put libURLformData("first", tFirstName, "last", tLastName) into tData
post tData to tScriptURL
There will be a few complications along the way; you should read the
(splending new in 3.0) docs, check out functions like URLencode, and
above
all, test. But either way, given that you have the web form
already, this is
probably the simplest route to achieve what you want.
HTH,
- Ben
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Re: semi-OT: can Rev pre-populate data on a web form?
Thanks for the response and good explanation, Ben. This may be exactly
what I need. I'll be giving it a try today.
Chris
On Sep 5, 2008, at 3:28 AM, Ben Rubinstein wrote:
Chris Sheffield wrote:
So my main question is, can Rev send data to a web form like this
in such a way that whatever fields we specify will be populated
when the browser/form opens? Not sure if something like this is
even possible. I haven't done enough web development to know. Is
some special JavaScript required to accomplish this? In thinking
this through a little more, if we have a web form that's already
set up to send an email, can't I take advantage of that in Rev by
creating my own form and then sending the data straight to the cgi
behind the form? Once again, I haven't done much web dev, so I may
not even know what I'm talking about. :-)
If anyone can help or can offer any other suggestions for how to
accomplish something similar, it'd be much appreciated.
If I've understood your request correctly, you really want a Rev
stack to
collect some information from the user, and have it arrive at your
server in
the form of an email. There's a simple way to get what you want, I
think.
Using the SMTP libraries should make this possible, but has some
issues, in
particular your rev stack then needs to know the address of a mail
server it
can use from within the user's network to send email. But if you
have a web
form on your server that's successfully sending email where you want
it,
there's no need to open a user's browser to view it. Instead, Rev can
effectively be that web form.
(Apologies if what follows is teaching my granny to suck eggs.) If
you look at
the source of the web page, it will contain a "form" element with an
action
and a method. The action is the address of a server-side resource
(a script
etc) which receives the values entered into the form and processes
it, in this
case by sending an email. The method is either POST or GET. If
it's GET,
then the resource expects the values in the URL string, eg if I fill
in this
simple form
my browser will next fetch a URL like this:
./formmail.cgi?first=Ben&last=Rubinstein
(the first part of the URL being constructed based on the URL of the
page
holding the form, adjusted by the 'action' of the form.)
Lecture over; the point is that executing
put "./formmail.cgi?first=Ben&last=Rubinstein" into tURL
get URL tURL
or perhaps more likely
put "./formmail.cgi" into tScriptURL
put tScriptURL \
& "?first=" & tFirstName \
& "&last=" & tLastName \
into tURL
get URL tURL
in your Rev stack will have exactly* the same effect on the
'formmail.cgi'
resource as the user entering those details into their browser. At
this point
Rev is acting like a browser, making a request of the web server.
So no need
to open an actual browser.
If the form uses the POST method instead, then it's only slightly more
complicated. Instead of get URL, you need to use the "post"
command, which
will look something more like this:
put libURLformData("first", tFirstName, "last", tLastName) into tData
post tData to tScriptURL
There will be a few complications along the way; you should read the
(splending new in 3.0) docs, check out functions like URLencode, and
above
all, test. But either way, given that you have the web form
already, this is
probably the simplest route to achieve what you want.
HTH,
- Ben
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semi-OT: can Rev pre-populate data on a web form?
We want our customers to go through a registration process. So the standalone would open a url to a form on our web site. The only reason we're going to a web form instead of using a form in the application is because we want an email message sent to us upon submitting the information. I've explored Sarah's smtp library for sending email from Rev, which I'm sure is great, but for some reason I can't get it to work. I can't get it to connect to our smtp server. Anyway, that's a different topic. So my main question is, can Rev send data to a web form like this in such a way that whatever fields we specify will be populated when the browser/form opens? Not sure if something like this is even possible. I haven't done enough web development to know. Is some special JavaScript required to accomplish this? In thinking this through a little more, if we have a web form that's already set up to send an email, can't I take advantage of that in Rev by creating my own form and then sending the data straight to the cgi behind the form? Once again, I haven't done much web dev, so I may not even know what I'm talking about. :-) If anyone can help or can offer any other suggestions for how to accomplish something similar, it'd be much appreciated. Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac icon specifications
Thanks, Marc. Good to see your presence on this list. :-) I will have our artist make sure he's using the latest version and try again. That could very well have been the problem, seeing as how the artwork he sent me seemed just fine. On Aug 22, 2008, at 4:24 AM, Marc EMILE - Axialis wrote: Chris: My name is Marc EMILE from Axialis Software, author of IconWorkshop. May I ask you what version of IconWorkshop you used to generate the ICNS file? FYI, in the latest version 6.31 we've fixed an issue in 256x256 and 512x512 formats. If you used an older version, could you update to 6.31 and try to load/ save your icon? Does it fix the issue? Regards, Marc - Axialis Team www.axialis.com On Aug 21, 5:16 pm, Chris Sheffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just to let everyone know, I got the artwork from the artist, plugged the images into Icon Composer, and all is well. :-) Thanks for all the suggestions. On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Ken Ray wrote: This is a limitation in Icon Composer, which only offers a few basic sizes. 128 pixels is the largest it allows. Actually, the latest Icon Composer under Leopard has 512, 256, 128, 32, and 16 pixel sizes. Chris, if you still have the problem after you check on the artwork, the other thing you can do is to check the 'info.plist' file in the bundle - this is where the OS connects the app to the icon. Look for: CFBundleTypeIconFile This should have a after it that is the icon file that will be used for the app - make sure this is the same name as the actual icon file in the Resources folder. Just my 2 cents... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site:http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc.www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac icon specifications
Just to let everyone know, I got the artwork from the artist, plugged the images into Icon Composer, and all is well. :-) Thanks for all the suggestions. On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:51 AM, Ken Ray wrote: This is a limitation in Icon Composer, which only offers a few basic sizes. 128 pixels is the largest it allows. Actually, the latest Icon Composer under Leopard has 512, 256, 128, 32, and 16 pixel sizes. Chris, if you still have the problem after you check on the artwork, the other thing you can do is to check the 'info.plist' file in the bundle - this is where the OS connects the app to the icon. Look for: CFBundleTypeIconFile This should have a after it that is the icon file that will be used for the app - make sure this is the same name as the actual icon file in the Resources folder. Just my 2 cents... Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac icon specifications
I'm pretty sure the 512 size at least is only supported under Leopard. Not sure about the 256 size. I'm running Leopard, but this app will have to run on 10.3 and up. So maybe we should simply stick with the 128 size? On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:42 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Chris Sheffield wrote: when I open the icns file in Icon Composer (looks like a great tool btw) only the 128x128 size and below load into the image wells. There's not 256 or 512 size, even though these display in Preview. This is a limitation in Icon Composer, which only offers a few basic sizes. 128 pixels is the largest it allows. The Finder will scale the icon if necessary, but 128 is the largest size that Icon Composer will save in the icns file. It's limitations have never had any ill effects in my icon files though, the Finder works fine with 128 px. Now that I think about it, I wonder if having huge icon sizes in the icns file is what's messing up everything. I've never created a Mac icon with a stored image larger than 128. Maybe just the existence of extra images gives the Finder a heart attack? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac icon specifications
Thanks, Jacque. Good info. I opened the icon in Preview and yes, I see all the images. However, they are not all the same. Some of them don't appear to have a transparency, and one of them is a perfect square where all the rest have rounded corners. So there are some strange things. And when I open the icns file in Icon Composer (looks like a great tool btw) only the 128x128 size and below load into the image wells. There's not 256 or 512 size, even though these display in Preview. So something is definitely goofy with the file. I'll report these findings to the artist and see what he can do. Thanks again. Chris On Aug 20, 2008, at 10:08 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Chris Sheffield wrote: I don't think that's necessary. At least, it never has been in the past. Specifying an icon to use in the Standalone Application Settings is supposed to apply that icon to the bundle. I'm pretty sure it's something in the way the icon is getting created in IconWorkshop that Rev doesn't like. So I just need someone (hopefully familiar with IconWorkshop) to tell me how to make it work. :-) If you open the Mac icon file with Preview, are the images there? That won't be a definitive test for the icon file's validity but if they are blank in Preview it would tell you that the file format isn't right. There is a free icon tool included with the Developer Tools on the OS X installation CD. You need to install the Developer Tools to see it (it isn't part of a normal installation.) I often use it, it is called "Icon Composer", and it creates Mac icon files in the appropriate format. There's a Photoshop plugin too that many swear by, but it isn't free and I haven't ever tried it. Graphic Converter, a terrific Mac image editor, also has a free version and it creates Mac icon files as well. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac icon specifications
By "in the Finder" I mean in a Finder window looking at the application. Doesn't matter if I'm using icon, list, or column view. By "blank" I mean blank. :-) No icon appears next to the application name. You know how in a Finder window you see your application names with an the icon in front of them (or above them if you're using icon view)? Well, my application has no icon. Not sure how much more clear I can be. The icon files are there in the bundle, just as they should be. That's what's so weird about this. And when I look at the preview for my icon file, I do in fact see the image just fine. It just doesn't display in front of the application name. No idea why. Using touch does not make any difference. I've tried logging out and even restarting the computer just to be sure and nothing changes. I still think it's something with the icns file itself. Does anybody know if there are any published specs anywhere for icon files? On Aug 20, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Chris, What do you mean with "in the Finder" and "blank"? If you open the application package, go to standalone.app/contents/ resources. This folder should contain a file Revolution.icns and RevolutionDoc.icns. If these icons have a file size equal to 0 or if they simply don't exist, just put your own icon file there and give it the correct name. Now use one of the methods to "touch" the application package and you should see the icon. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering http://economy-x-talk.com http://www.salery.biz http://facebook.economy-x-talk.com Benefit from our inexpensive hosting services. See http://economy-x-talk.com/server.html for more info. On 20 aug 2008, at 17:28, Chris Sheffield wrote: No go. Already tried that. That was the first thing I tried cause I've had that happen many times before. But usually in that case there is still an icon, whether it's the generic app icon or whatever. In this case, however, there is absolutely no icon. In the Finder, I see the name of the app bundle, but where the icon should be, it's simply blank. On Aug 20, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Chris, The icon doesn't appear, because the OS doesn't know about it yet. You can touch the icon with the shell function, you can zip and unzip the file, or get the info window and click on the icon in that window followed by a press on backspace key. There might be more tricks to make the icon appear. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac icon specifications
No go. Already tried that. That was the first thing I tried cause I've had that happen many times before. But usually in that case there is still an icon, whether it's the generic app icon or whatever. In this case, however, there is absolutely no icon. In the Finder, I see the name of the app bundle, but where the icon should be, it's simply blank. On Aug 20, 2008, at 9:17 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Chris, The icon doesn't appear, because the OS doesn't know about it yet. You can touch the icon with the shell function, you can zip and unzip the file, or get the info window and click on the icon in that window followed by a press on backspace key. There might be more tricks to make the icon appear. -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac icon specifications
I don't think that's necessary. At least, it never has been in the past. Specifying an icon to use in the Standalone Application Settings is supposed to apply that icon to the bundle. I'm pretty sure it's something in the way the icon is getting created in IconWorkshop that Rev doesn't like. So I just need someone (hopefully familiar with IconWorkshop) to tell me how to make it work. :-) On Aug 20, 2008, at 8:43 AM, William de Smet wrote: Hi there Chris, As I recall you need to paste the icon file yourself be done by right-clicking on the .rev file (???) and then use the 'show info' option. Then copy and paste the icon file and then built the app. Greetings, William 2008/8/20 Chris Sheffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Forgive me if this has been covered in the past, but I can't seem to find any info about it. We have a graphics artist in our company who is trying to create some program icons, and for some reason the Mac icns file just isn't working quite right. Revolution builds the standalone without errors, but the icon does not appear on the app after being built. The icns file is included in the bundle, and selecting it in the Finder does show the image correctly. What would cause the icon from not showing on the app bundle itself? Something in the way the icon was created, or is it something in Revolution? We've not had trouble with icons in the past. The artist is using a program called Axialis IconWorkshop to create both Win and Mac icons. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Mac icon specifications
Forgive me if this has been covered in the past, but I can't seem to find any info about it. We have a graphics artist in our company who is trying to create some program icons, and for some reason the Mac icns file just isn't working quite right. Revolution builds the standalone without errors, but the icon does not appear on the app after being built. The icns file is included in the bundle, and selecting it in the Finder does show the image correctly. What would cause the icon from not showing on the app bundle itself? Something in the way the icon was created, or is it something in Revolution? We've not had trouble with icons in the past. The artist is using a program called Axialis IconWorkshop to create both Win and Mac icons. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: A Simple Question: How do I draw a vertical line?
Len, First off, if you hold down the shift key while drawing your line, you should be able to make it perfectly vertical. Second, after your line is drawn, simply adjust the lineSize property, which is under Border - > Size on the first pane of the property palette. You can also adjust the length using the height property. So I think the trick is to use lineSize rather than width to adjust the line thickness. HTH, Chris On Aug 19, 2008, at 2:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This would seem to be an easy thing to do with a GUI IDE but I can't seem to get it right. I want to draw some vertical lines on a form that are thicker than one pixel (this is where I'm having problems). I can't do it (accurately) with the mouse so I'm drawing a pretty close approximation of vertical and then I want to use the property inspector to "correct" the line and make it vertical. The problem is if I move the bottom of the line, the top moves. If I move the top, the bottom moves. It seems to be trying to create a line inside the corners of a rectangle and therefore, I can never get a truly vertical line. Any ideas as to what I'm doing wrong here? For what it's worth, I'm trying to put on lines that are somewhere around 6 to 8 pixels "thick." Thanks! Len Morgan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Intercepting new card
If I'm not mistaken, you could certainly do it with a front script. Just be sure to pass it, or none of the menus in the IDE will work. So put a menuPick handler in a button or some other object, then "insert the script of into front". On Jul 2, 2008, at 8:35 AM, Mikey wrote: Chris, Thanks for that, but for curiosity sake, what is necessary to intercept the menuPick, or is this one of those cases where you can't because RR is directly executing a RR command? -- Diogenes - "What I like to drink most is wine that belongs to others." ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Intercepting new card
Unless I'm misunderstanding, I believe you want the newCard message, placed in your stack script. On Jul 2, 2008, at 8:12 AM, Mikey wrote: Hmm. Well, back in HC, if I wanted to intercept a new card being created, I had an on doMenu handler. When I put in an on menuPick handler in RR and hit ctrl-n, my handler doesn't get hit, and a new card is created. So if this handler should not go in the current stack where should I put it? -- Ronald Reagan - "Recession is when a neighbour loses his job. Depression is when you lose yours." ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Standalone Not Running for a Customer
Tom, If this is the same problem I remember from back a couple years ago, then the app bundle is missing the CFBundleIdentifier key from the info.plist file in the bundle. There was a bug in earlier versions of Rev where this key did not get added, but it has been fixed for a while now (I don't remember the version where the fix appeared). Anyway, you have two options: fix it manually, or rebuild your app with a newer version of Rev. You can fix it manually by editing the info.plist file using the Property List Editor tool (easy way) that comes with Apple's developer tools. Or you can use any editor capable of xml editing I believe (a little harder, but still not too bad). You need to add the key CFBundleIdentifier, and then a value that you specify. Usually this should be something like com.[companyname].[productname]. You could look at some other app bundle for an example. I actually have a stack that can fix the problem for you, but you would need to edit it to match your application and situation. If you're interested, I can certainly email it to you. Just let me know. If nothing else, it might give you an easier grasp on how to fix it manually. Chris On Jun 12, 2008, at 6:12 AM, Tom Cole wrote: A person who has bought a license for a standalone of mine is having a problem running it. Here is the note he sent. Does anyone know the answer to his problem, so I can help him? I made the program with Rev 2.1. Thanks, Tom He writes: * iMac * OS 10.4.10 * Managed user account, restricted to certain programs, no admin rights. I installed the program and I can run it fine as an admin. However, I can't give the student (non-admin) account permission to use it. It doesn't appear in the list of applications to select. If I click "locate..." and browse to the application and select it that way, it tells me it won't run with the limitations I've select, but it doesn't tell me the specific problem. I tried adding permissions to change system preferences and such things, but I still get the error. It seems like maybe it doesn't want to run at all for a managed user account, but I don't see why it would need admin rights to do anything it's doing. Any ideas on how I can get this to work? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Time to upgrade my Techniquie...
And, might I add, if at all possible, use a "repeat for each" loop rather than "repeat with x = 1 to the number of lines of [whatever]". This will also greatly improve the performance. Chris On Jun 10, 2008, at 9:02 AM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: Hi Jim, As an old HCer myself, there is one glaring slow-down that I see; even if it were in HC. You need to put your field data into vars and then work with the vars; not the fields. This will shown an immense speed up right at the outset. In fact, you may not even have to do anything else. HTH, Joe Wilkins ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] GLX Application Framework
Bob, Here are the links. Enjoy! From Trevor: -- Tutorials -- I have started to create tutorials to help people get started. If there is anything that isn't clear or additional questions you have you can submit comments at the end of a lesson. The tutorials are available here: <http://glxapp.screenstepslive.com/> -- Download -- If the framework still seems interesting after looking at the tutorials you can download the framework files here: <http://www.bluemangolearning.com/developer/revolution/glxapp_framework/glx_application_framework.zip > Chris Sheffield On Apr 2, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Robert Sneidar wrote: Hi Trevore. Could you relink that framework? I went to your web site, but alas, no dl for it. I deleted the original email. So sorry. Bob Sneidar IT Manager Logos Management Calvary Chapel CM On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: On Mar 31, 2008, at 9:38 AM, Trevor DeVore wrote: Today I'm announcing the GLX Application Framework. The GLX Application Framework provides a foundation of common building blocks for building applications in Revolution (2.8.1 and above) I just noticed that I left some code in the main framework library that was 2.9 specific. It had to do with checking command line parameters passed to a Windows application on startup. 2.9 introduced the $# value which returns the number of parameters passed in. While this code would not cause an error, the "command line files" property would not be set correctly on Windows. I also noticed that I had not documented "command line files". I have updated the PDF to include this property and I've added a lesson about it: <http://glxapp.screenstepslive.com/topics/show_lesson/104?lesson_id=833 > I created a lesson showing how to upgrade the glxapp_framework.dat file for those of you who already created an application using the framework. <http://glxapp.screenstepslive.com/topics/show_lesson/104?lesson_id=832 > Regards, -- Trevor DeVore Blue Mango Learning Systems www.bluemangolearning.com-www.screensteps.com Email has been scanned for viruses by Altman Technologies' email management service - www.altman.co.uk/emailsystems ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Question with CGI at JaguarPC..
Chipp, It's been my experience that you have to perform a Save As on the stack, specifying to save in Legacy format, before that preference truly kicks in. I've never been able to simply open a legacy stack in 2.8.1 and have it stay that way unless I do a Save As first. Kind of strange, but it has worked for me. Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. On Feb 20, 2008, at 3:42 PM, Chipp Walters wrote: Well, I got the cgi up and running. "Open stack" worked fine. Supposedly you need to call "close stack" though I haven't tested it. Another note of interest... my comments are typically: --> THIS IS A COMMENT...2 DASHES FOLLOWED BY A GREATER THAN SIGN but they just hang the cgi for some reason (engine 2.6.6 - Linux) but these work as comments: // THIS IS A VALID COMMENT # SO IS THIS what up? Also, in 2.8.1-gm-3, using the "Preserve stack file version on stacks saved in legacy format" preference doesn't work. It saves them in the new format. Funny thing is, even my old StackFormat plugin won't save the stacks in legacy format...Is there a new command for this? It used to be set the stackFileVersion to...(new stack version) But, it doesn't seem to work...any other ideas? TIA, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
check for a CD
I would think this has to be a common problem, so I'm wondering how the rest of you have gotten around it. The single-user version of our software comes with media content on a series of CDs. Things have been working pretty well, except in a case where a user might have more than one CD drive (we're talking Windows only here). I have written a routine that scans through each available drive looking for our CD. The problem is, if there is no CD in the drive(s) at all, a "no disk" error, generated by Windows, pops up. This error will appear for each drive that does not have a CD in it. My question is, is there some way to suppress this error? I'm simply using a "if there is a file" type of check to determine if our CD is in one of the drives. Is there some other method available to me? A command line utility perhaps? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: cancel a wait
Thanks for the suggestion Eric. That probably would work. Unfortunately, it would probably require a fairly big code rewrite in order to accomplish it, which I was hoping to avoid. But maybe that's my only option. On Jan 16, 2008, at 11:00 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi Chris, Instead of using a 'wait until the sound is "done" with messages", could you just set a flag to true on playstarted and set it to false on playstopped? And use this flag (a local script var, a custom prop, etc.) to act as you want it to work? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
cancel a wait
Is there any way to cancel a wait command? I've got a strange thing happening, and I'm just not sure how to get around it. In the app, the user has the ability to move back and forth between two certain cards. When the first card opens, some audio instructions start playing. After starting the player, I have a wait..with messages command to wait until the audio is done, and then of course the handler continues after that. If you move to that second card, the audio of the first card stops playing, and the second card displays and the audio there starts playing. This all works fine the first time. Here's the problem. If you go back to the first card before that wait...with messages finishes, then quickly forward to the second card again, things start to go wrong, as the wait's start stacking up or something, and certain things on the second card appear to not respond correctly, like an animation that plays. And there is also a field on the second card for entering text that doesn't respond until the wait's "catch up". So I'm wondering, if a user moves to that second card before the audio of the first card finishes, is there some way to cancel that wait...with messages? Does that make sense? Let me know if I need to clarify. Thanks, Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revBrowser system requirements
Thanks Chipp. How about the min versions of the OSs supported? Win 2000? Win XP? Panther? Tiger? On Dec 21, 2007, at 2:26 AM, Chipp Walters wrote: Hi Chris, I believe both Mac and PC versions depend on the installation of Safari and Internet Explorer respectively. best, Chipp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revBrowser system requirements
Maybe I'm just totally missing them somewhere, but can someone tell me the requirements for the revBrowser object? I need to know min versions of both Windows and OS X it'll run on. Are the requirements in the docs somewhere? If not, would be very helpful. :-) Thanks, Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Place to stash a text file in Vista thats shared by all users?
Hi Eric, Honestly I don't recall the exact circumstances, as it has now been some time ago. But my company was doing an update to our software back when Vista was first hitting the market, and we wanted everything to be Vista-compatible. We also needed a place to store a prefs file that was accessible to all users. We first went with C:\ProgramData, as that seemed to be the logical choice. However, after doing some testing, we discovered that in some cases, not all, and I'm still not totally sure why, our prefs file was getting virtualized, which of course was causing all kinds of strange things to happen with our program. All I was doing was writing the file to our own folder inside ProgramData. I'm not sure if it had something to do with the type of Vista installation or what. We were mostly testing on the Business and Ultimate flavors. But it was then that I had to research other locations and found Public Documents to be the best place. Not sure if that really answers your questions or not. :-) Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. On Nov 1, 2007, at 10:24 AM, Eric Chatonet wrote: hris and Richard, I was confronted with this problem and the 'horrible' way Vista makes its own of all it wants as it wants. But you know this too... Sometimes, I do regret to not be obliged to work on my Mac only ;-) I had noticed that Norton LiveUpdate folder and others significant data that have to be updated frequently were there... And as far as I can agree (!!!) the way Vista makes its job, I assume that C:/ProgramData (the name itself is significant) could be the right place and it works for me AFAIK. Chris, you say that some files you put in it were nevertheless virtualized? It would be interesting to go to the bottom of this: can you share circumstances when it happened? Best regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Place to stash a text file in Vista thats shared by all users?
Watch out for this though. It's been my experience, and maybe it's just some sort of bug for now in Vista that will later be fixed, that even sometimes writing to C:\ProgramData will cause things to be redirected to the user's VirtualStore, which in some cases may be okay, but in other's not okay at all. I found the Public Documents folder to be about the safest place for me. I realize it's maybe not the best place to store a prefs file, but it seems to work best as far as all users being able to access it, without things being redirected to the VirtualStore. The official path is C:\Users\Public\Public Documents. My two cents... Chris Sheffield On Nov 1, 2007, at 9:19 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Eric Chatonet wrote: Le 31 oct. 07 à 19:11, rgould8 at aol.com a écrit : Can anyone tell me if there's a directory somewhere in Windows Vista that is accessible by all users of the PC?? specialFoderPath(35) (C:/ProgramData) seems the directory you need. Good find, Eric. Thanks! Some months ago we had a discussion here looking for such a directory, and no one could turn up one which was writable by even non-admin accounts. But I was able to verify that specialFolderPath(35) can indeed be written to and read from by admin and non-admin accounts. Good sleuthing! -- Richard Gaskin Managing Editor, revJournal ___ Rev tips, tutorials and more: http://www.revJournal.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Leopard
Shari, I've been doing some Leopard testing myself and have not run into issues like these. I have seen a couple strange things where default buttons are not "throbbing" as they should and just look like normal buttons, even though they still behave as default. I've also found in one app that audio does not play. Not sure if this is some sort of QuickTime/Rev issue with Leopard or what. But as far as UB apps running, that works just fine for me. I'm running the latest Leopard developer seed on a new 20" iMac, core 2 duo 2.4 GHz, 2 GB ram. Anyway, just thought I'd chime in and let you know my findings. Chris On Oct 17, 2007, at 5:25 AM, Shari wrote: I got the following emaiI today: "I downIoaded the latest version of your game to try out but was told it was not for my systems architecture. The version I downIoaded was the OSX version and my system is an iMac running the developer seed of Leopard." What he downIoaded was a UB for OSX and Macintel. Is Apple getting ready to break another whole set of apps again? Didn't they just literally do that? Where is Revolution sitting for this new wave? Will UB's not work on the newfangled machines? Shari -- WlND0WS and MAClNT0SH shareware games BIackjack GoId http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com www.oneminutereader.com Watch reading achievements rise with Read Naturally's school-to-home program, One Minute Reader. Make reading fun straight from your classroom right to their home! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: matchText and accented characters
Thanks, Ken. Using the hex equivalents is an interesting suggestion.
I may look into that further.
As for replacing the accented characters with their non-accented
equivalents, that is also something I've done in the past, but the
problem here is that this is Mac/PC cross platform, so it's quite a
few extra lines of code.
So I decided to simply try the offset function, with wholeMatches set
to true (although I can't really determine if wholeMatches affects
offset or not), and that seems to be working fine for me. Still
testing it out to make sure, but so far so good.
Thanks again for the suggestions.
On Oct 16, 2007, at 5:59 PM, Ken Ray wrote:
On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:18:54 -0600, Chris Sheffield wrote:
Thanks, Andres. But that didn't seem to fix the problem. That
property, according to the docs, only seems to apply to the numToChar
and charToNum functions. I did try it just to make sure.
The issue is that PCRE (which is the lib that Rev uses) *optionally*
supports locales, so I don't know if any locales were compiled into
the
code that Rev uses. If you knew what you were looking for, you could
replace the accented characters with their hex equivalents and you'd
get a match:
put matchChunk(fld 1,".*(fianc\x8E).*",tStart,tEnd)
in this case "\x8E" means "use hex code 8E", which is ASCII 142, which
is é (at least on my Mac). To determine this, I ran this code:
put baseConvert(charToNum("é"),10,16)
which gave me "8E". So if you know specifically the characters to
match, you can use this.
On the other hand, if you have a big chunk of text and you don't know
if there are accented chars or not, I would personally run it the
"brute force" way:
1) put a copy of the text into another variable
2) replace the accented chars with their non-accented counterparts - a
dozen or so lines like:
- replace "é" with "e" in myVar
- replace "ó" with "o" in myVar
- etc.
3) run your 'matchChunk' on the second "clean" variable using
non-accented text (look for "fiance" and not "fiancé")
4) if you get a hit, use the startChar/endChar variables from the
'matchChunk' to extract the text from the *first* variable (the one
with the accented text)
Just my 2 cents,
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Re: matchText and accented characters
Thanks, Andres. But that didn't seem to fix the problem. That property, according to the docs, only seems to apply to the numToChar and charToNum functions. I did try it just to make sure. On Oct 16, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Andres Martinez wrote: Hello Chris I think you need to check on the unicode setting. Use the following line before your search... set the useUnicode to true Regards, Andres Martinez www.baKno.com On Oct 16, 2007, at 1:59 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote: ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: matchText and accented characters
Sorry, I'm using matchChunk, not matchText. But maybe the solution is the same? On Oct 16, 2007, at 11:49 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: The matchText function seems to be failing when searching for accented characters like á, é, í, ó, or ú. I'm not really up on my regex. Is there something special I need to do to make these characters work? For example, one search I'm performing is for the word "fiancé". Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com www.oneminutereader.com Watch reading achievements rise with Read Naturally's school-to- home program, One Minute Reader. Make reading fun straight from your classroom right to their home! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
matchText and accented characters
The matchText function seems to be failing when searching for accented characters like á, é, í, ó, or ú. I'm not really up on my regex. Is there something special I need to do to make these characters work? For example, one search I'm performing is for the word "fiancé". Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally, Inc. www.readnaturally.com www.oneminutereader.com Watch reading achievements rise with Read Naturally's school-to-home program, One Minute Reader. Make reading fun straight from your classroom right to their home! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Vista dilemma
I'm wondering if anyone can help with this. I've got a standalone that, by default, is installed to the Program Files directory. At one point, it performs a check to see if the currently logged in user can write to that directory. Right now I just have it attempt to write to a file and then delete the file. Under Win 2000/XP this seems to work great, but under Vista the darn VirtualStore "feature" is fouling things up. So, question number one. Is there some way to tell my standalone, or the Vista OS, that I really and truly want my check to be performed on the Program Files directly, and not have things redirected to the VirtualStore? Question number two. If the above is not possible, is there some way to determine (via shell command perhaps) what type of user is currently logged in to the computer (i.e. admin, standard, etc.)? And if so, would this command be available to by any user to run from the shell? This would be a better way to go all around if it's possible. Thanks, Chris ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] BvG Docu gets an add-on AAG WebNotes
Ian, I was getting the same error and had to go through a bit of a setup process. Click the Settings button and notice the path set for documentation. Hit the Set button and it'll walk you through a wizard so you can get going. At one point, I believe it mentions clicking a Next button, but you can't see it unless you resize the window. HTH, Chris On Jul 31, 2007, at 11:43 AM, Ian Wood wrote: Great work Andre, unfortunately I'm getting: "I couldn't understand the file you referenced: /Applications/Revolution Enterprise/2.8.1-gm-1/documentation/BvG Docu/1702.xml" whenever I click on an entry (with 1702 replaced by whatever file name). The BvG viewer works fine on the same install. Presumably everyone else who has tried this is running Enterprise, not Studio like me... ;-) Ian ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Filtering Columnar Data
Gregory, Try this and see if it works. filter tmpData with "*" & tab & myNumber & tab & "*" There shouldn't be any need to include the preceding or trailing tabs, except for the ones directly surrounding the number. Chris On Jul 16, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Gregory Lypny wrote: Hello Everyone, I'm struggling with the filter command. I have tab-delimited data in a field, where each row has at least 56 columns. I want to filter the data based on a chosen number in that fourth column, for example, to return all lines that have a 9 there. The fourth column only contains a number from 1 to 10. The following handler works most of the time. I put three wild card expressions, lone asterisks separated by tabs, to make sure nothing is being picked up in the first three columns. The tab and asterisk (and it could be just an *) following myNumber says that it doesn't matter what is in the columns after the fourth. put fld "Data" of this card into tmpData filter tmpData with "*" & tab & "*" & tab & "*" & tab & myNumber & tab & "*" The trouble is, the first three wild card expressions are interpreted by Revolution to include tab characters, which means that I'm not necessarily filtering the fourth column! If a 9 appears by itself in column 58, then the filter command will pick it up. Sigh. I also tried the following, but I don't think I have the regular expression syntax right. filter it with "[A-Z0-9]" & tab & "[0-9]" & tab & "[A-Z]" & tab & myNumber & tab & "*" I know that my first column always contains five words, two of which are numbers. I wasn't sure how to represent the four spaces between the words. The second column is always a seven-digit number. The third contains first and last names, which will contain at least two words. This turns up empty. Any advice would be most appreciated. If I can't get the RegEx working for me, I know I can resort to a repeat loop and pull out all lines with myNumber in the fourth item. Regards, Gregory ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT - shell script to kill a process
Tried this. All parts seem to work except now I'm getting an
"operation not permitted" error from the kill command. I'm running it
with sudo, so I don't understand why this would happen. But I did
verify that the correct pid is now getting returned. In fact, the
entire error message reads, "kill: 1031: Operation not permitted",
and 1031 is the correct pid.
Any other thoughts? :-(
On Jul 10, 2007, at 11:01 AM, Ken Ray wrote:
Ah... actually use {print $1} (you want the first chunk)... so try
this:
ps -awx | grep 'TextEdit' | grep -v 'grep' | awk '{print $1}' | xargs
-I pid kill -9 pid
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Re: OT - shell script to kill a process
Excellent. That seems to work just fine. Although I had to change the
2 to 1, since the pid is the first column returned.
I'm running 10.4.10. What's different on yours?
On Jul 10, 2007, at 10:55 AM, chris bohnert wrote:
Chris,
Try this:
ps -awx | awk '{print $2}'
if that prints you a list of pid's you should be good to replace
the cut
pipe with the awk command. By the way, what version of os X are you
running..mine doesn't seem to behave as you describe.
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On 7/10/07, Chris Sheffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Okay, I think I figured out the problem.
The pid as returned from ps has a different number of leading spaces
depending on the number of digits in the pid. So using a set value
for the -f option doesn't seem to work. For example, if the pid has
four digits, using 2 works since the pid has 2 leading spaces. But if
it has 3 digits, you have to use 3 to get the pid returned correctly
since it has 3 leading spaces. Am I making sense? It's kind of
confusing to me. Anyway, can you think of a way around this? Is there
some other command that would work instead of cut, or some other form
of cut maybe?
Thanks again.
On Jul 10, 2007, at 9:28 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote:
>
> I've got another question for you though. It concerns the 'cut -d\
> -f2' part of this. This doesn't seem to be working correctly. Can
> you explain more what's supposed to happen here? It seems to just
> be returning an empty string, so a valid pid is never passed on.
> I've tried it using TextEdit as well as using my own process in the
> command. Any thoughts?
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Re: OT - shell script to kill a process
Okay, I think I figured out the problem. The pid as returned from ps has a different number of leading spaces depending on the number of digits in the pid. So using a set value for the -f option doesn't seem to work. For example, if the pid has four digits, using 2 works since the pid has 2 leading spaces. But if it has 3 digits, you have to use 3 to get the pid returned correctly since it has 3 leading spaces. Am I making sense? It's kind of confusing to me. Anyway, can you think of a way around this? Is there some other command that would work instead of cut, or some other form of cut maybe? Thanks again. On Jul 10, 2007, at 9:28 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: I've got another question for you though. It concerns the 'cut -d\ -f2' part of this. This doesn't seem to be working correctly. Can you explain more what's supposed to happen here? It seems to just be returning an empty string, so a valid pid is never passed on. I've tried it using TextEdit as well as using my own process in the command. Any thoughts? ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OT - shell script to kill a process
Well, Ken. It turns out I think I need to go with your method. The
'killall' command is definitely more concise, but it turns out that I
am going to have to do a partial search on the path to the process
exe just to make sure I get the right one, and killall doesn't seem
to allow that.
I've got another question for you though. It concerns the 'cut -d\ -
f2' part of this. This doesn't seem to be working correctly. Can you
explain more what's supposed to happen here? It seems to just be
returning an empty string, so a valid pid is never passed on. I've
tried it using TextEdit as well as using my own process in the
command. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Chris
On Jul 9, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Ken Ray wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 14:46:32 -0600, Chris Sheffield wrote:
My Unix scripting knowledge leaves a bit to be desired, so I thought
I'd ask here for some help.
I have a Vise installer for OS X that needs to check for and kill our
own process if it's running. The installer will be authenticated when
running. I need a shell script that I can execute from within the
installer that will determine, by name, if a given process is
running, and then kill it dead if so. Can someone help?
Well, it's ugly, but you can execute this:
ps -awx | grep 'TextEdit' | grep -v 'grep' | cut -d\ -f2 | xargs -I
pid kill -9 pid
A few notes:
- I'm using TextEdit as the app I want to close - replace your app
name here (to see what I'm parsing, execute 'ps -awx' in the Terminal
by itself).
- This is all one line, no returns here
- There are actually two spaces after the "d\" and before the "-f2".
Here's what it means (for those wondering):
(ps -awx) = Get a list of all currently running processes with full
path names.
( | grep 'TextEdit') = Pipe the result to 'grep' (the regex engine)
and return any lines that contain 'TextEdit'. This will return TWO
lines, one with the path to TextEdit on it, and the other one is the
actual 'grep' call that is trying to find 'TextEdit'.
( | grep -v 'grep') = Pipe the result to 'grep' again, but this time
ignore any lines that have 'grep' in it. (Sneaky!)
( cut -d\ -f2) = Extract ("cut") the second space-delimited "word"
in the resulting string ("-d" means use a delimiter, "\ " is the
delimiter to use (has to be escaped because spaces normally signify a
change of parameters, etc. on the command line), "-f2" means look for
the second space-delimited "field" in the string)
( | xargs -I pid kill -9 pid) = Pipe the result (the process ID)
into
a variable called 'pid' that will replace the argument variable 'pid'
in the call to the 'kill' command (normally to kill a process it would
look like "kill -9 1012")).
HTH,
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Re: OT - shell script to kill a process
Excellent. Thanks, Chris. On Jul 9, 2007, at 4:06 PM, chris bohnert wrote: "killall ProcessName" should do what you want -- cb On 7/9/07, Chris Sheffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My Unix scripting knowledge leaves a bit to be desired, so I thought I'd ask here for some help. I have a Vise installer for OS X that needs to check for and kill our own process if it's running. The installer will be authenticated when running. I need a shell script that I can execute from within the installer that will determine, by name, if a given process is running, and then kill it dead if so. Can someone help? Thanks, Chris ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OT - shell script to kill a process
My Unix scripting knowledge leaves a bit to be desired, so I thought I'd ask here for some help. I have a Vise installer for OS X that needs to check for and kill our own process if it's running. The installer will be authenticated when running. I need a shell script that I can execute from within the installer that will determine, by name, if a given process is running, and then kill it dead if so. Can someone help? Thanks, Chris ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
wait for a process in OS X
This is probably a stupid question. And I swear I've done this in the past, but I can't for the life of me remember how I did it. I need to launch an application from within a script, but I need my script to wait for the application to close before continuing. I've tried launch, open process, and even the shell() function, but in each case the script just continues running. How can I do this? Is my only option to launch it, then wait in a loop and continually check the running processes using shell()? If so, I suppose that's fine. Just kind of a hassle. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Chris ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac UB standalones and OS versions
Great news. Thanks, Jacque (and Rev Team) :-) On Jun 4, 2007, at 10:44 AM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Jeff Reynolds wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] we just sent our cd out for replication, im trying to put a stop on it if possible. 10.1 and 10.2 ARE STILL ALIVE AND WELL IN THE SCHOOLS! Urgh. I hope you can stop it in time, really sorry to hear that. I just asked the team about the problem, and they weren't aware of it. In all those months of beta testing involving hundreds of testers, it was never reported. The breakage wasn't intentional. They will do a fix ASAP and asked me to let you all know. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac UB standalones and OS versions
For anyone who's interested, I did create bug #5109 for this issue. Feel free to add your votes. On Jun 3, 2007, at 9:26 AM, Shari wrote: I've noticed a lot of software that requires 10.3.9 lately, I get the feeling that was pretty much the cutoff these days. By the way, thank you, Chris, for verifying that I wasn't crazy. Much appreciated :-) A little snippet in the help docs would have been very welcome, and saved me much agony, if the Rev engine itself supports such a cutoff for variations of OSX. Maybe even they didn't know... Shari -- Windows and Macintosh shareware games BIackjack Gold http://www.gypsyware.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac UB standalones and OS versions
One more update. Turns out a PPC standalone built with 2.8.1 does not work either, which makes the issue even more serious. :-( On Jun 1, 2007, at 1:32 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote: Confirmed! UBs built with 2.8.1 *do not* run under OS X 10.2.x. But one built with 2.8.0 does. At least in my testing. What changed? If no one else has, I'll submit this as a bug. It's a nasty one. Chris On Jun 1, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote: I'm wondering if there's a problem with the 2.8.1 engine. Other non-Rev universal apps I have (installers, for example) run perfectly fine under 10.2.x. And I'm almost positive that standalones built with previous Rev engines have run fine for me. I'm going to double check this though. Chris On Jun 1, 2007, at 12:47 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Shari wrote: After a couple of hours of reading old archived posts dating back a couple years I came across one tiny tidbit that may explain why the UB standalone fails to launch on my G-3. Can anyone verify this? Nowhere in the docs of either Revolution or Metacard could I find a mention of this. I did a pretty exhaustive search and if the info is out there, it is well hidden. Universal Binaries for Mac only launch on systems OSX 10.3.x and higher... Is this true? I couldn't find a specific statement in the Apple Developer area, but the stuff I did read seems to indicate it is true. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac UB standalones and OS versions
Confirmed! UBs built with 2.8.1 *do not* run under OS X 10.2.x. But one built with 2.8.0 does. At least in my testing. What changed? If no one else has, I'll submit this as a bug. It's a nasty one. Chris On Jun 1, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote: I'm wondering if there's a problem with the 2.8.1 engine. Other non- Rev universal apps I have (installers, for example) run perfectly fine under 10.2.x. And I'm almost positive that standalones built with previous Rev engines have run fine for me. I'm going to double check this though. Chris On Jun 1, 2007, at 12:47 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Shari wrote: After a couple of hours of reading old archived posts dating back a couple years I came across one tiny tidbit that may explain why the UB standalone fails to launch on my G-3. Can anyone verify this? Nowhere in the docs of either Revolution or Metacard could I find a mention of this. I did a pretty exhaustive search and if the info is out there, it is well hidden. Universal Binaries for Mac only launch on systems OSX 10.3.x and higher... Is this true? I couldn't find a specific statement in the Apple Developer area, but the stuff I did read seems to indicate it is true. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Mac UB standalones and OS versions
I'm wondering if there's a problem with the 2.8.1 engine. Other non- Rev universal apps I have (installers, for example) run perfectly fine under 10.2.x. And I'm almost positive that standalones built with previous Rev engines have run fine for me. I'm going to double check this though. Chris On Jun 1, 2007, at 12:47 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Shari wrote: After a couple of hours of reading old archived posts dating back a couple years I came across one tiny tidbit that may explain why the UB standalone fails to launch on my G-3. Can anyone verify this? Nowhere in the docs of either Revolution or Metacard could I find a mention of this. I did a pretty exhaustive search and if the info is out there, it is well hidden. Universal Binaries for Mac only launch on systems OSX 10.3.x and higher... Is this true? I couldn't find a specific statement in the Apple Developer area, but the stuff I did read seems to indicate it is true. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Making OS-Specific Standalones
Hi Bridger, Check out the savingStandalone message. Very useful for setting custom props at the time of building a standalone. Chris On May 9, 2007, at 6:28 PM, Bridger Maxwell wrote: Hey, Is there any way to have the Windows standalone saved differently from the OS X standalone? I would like the Windows standalone to have custom properties containing the externals to be unpacked, but because OS X uses bundles this is not an issue and I don't want these custom properties to be saved as part of the OS X standalone (no need to use extra memory). I know I could just build for Windows, clear the externals, and build it again for OS X, but is there an easier way so I don't get mixed up? Thank You, Bridger Maxwell www.FieryFerret.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: What's up with this?????
What's in field "FieldFrameCount"? Is it possible it's not a number? Perhaps you've got text in there you're not seeing (i.e. spaces, returns, etc.)? On Apr 19, 2007, at 9:23 AM, Dave wrote: Hi, I'm using RunRev 2.8.0.370. I have the following in a Button Script: put text of field "FieldFrameCount" into myFrameCount repeat with myFrameCounter = 1 to myFrameCount It has been working fine up until about half an hour ago when it started giving me this execution error: Type: repeat error in 'with' end condition expression Object: button Line: repeat with myFrameCounter - 1 to myFrameCount I'm at a loss as to what to do to fix it! I've tried re-starting RunRev and then Restarting the whole machine. Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: OS X Preferences menu item
Perfect, Sarah. Thank you. I'll give that a try. On Apr 11, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Sarah Reichelt wrote: The method I use is to rename the Edit menu to something other than "Edit", say "EditMenu" instead. Then change the label of the Edit button in the menubar to "Edit" so it displays correctly. This will disable the Preferences item just as if you had no Edit menu. It will also stop the bottom 2 items of the menu being moved, so you will need to delete them yourself. Cheers, Sarah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
OS X Preferences menu item
I have to say I feel kind of stupid asking this question, seeing as how I've been using Rev for a few years now. You'd think I'd already know the answer to this. :-) On OS X, is it possible to either remove completely (preferred) or disable (acceptable) the Preferences menu item in the application's menu? I know it's possible as far as the OS is concerned cause I've seen other Mac apps where it's either disabled or completely gone. But I'm not sure if there's a way to accomplish either of these with Rev. I currently have an Edit menu in my app that contains two items, the last one being Preferences. But the app has no customizable prefs, so I'd like to remove it if possible. But the closest I've been able to come is to remove the Edit menu entirely. Doing this gives me a disabled Preferences item, but I really want to keep my Edit menu. Is there another way that I'm missing? Anyone? Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Back to the Future: Classic support?
Sean, Actually, I've got an app for Mac Classic that accesses a MySQL database just fine. There's a trick to getting it to work, though. There is something funny with the Mac Classic engine and Valentina. For some reason the two are bound together. So the trick to getting an app to work with MySQL is to build it with both MySQL and Valentina support (using 2.6.1, the latest to support Mac Classic). Using this method builds a standalone that should be able to access a MySQL database without problems. The part I can't remember is whether or not it's necessary to leave the Valentina library next to the app. You might have to just try it with and without it. Hope that helps. Chris Sheffield On 4/10/07, Shao Sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Even if Rev doesn't ever bring Classic and *NIX support up to par with the Mac OS X and Windows versions, I'd love to see them do a goodwill gesture and fix the database support in compiled applications for Mac Classic. Database support works fine in the IDE, but not in compiled applications and due to that I lost out on doing some fun projects :-( -Sean ps.. 2.5 and 2.6 were tested, the database to access was MySQL and the other database connectors may actually work but I never had access to those kinds of databases. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Installing a Standalone on Windows
Hi Dan, Check out InnoSetup. It's free, works great, and is relatively easy to use, especially if you use the ISTool front end. www.innosetup.com Good luck. Chris On Mar 26, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Dan Friedman wrote: Greetings! Has anyone found a good solution for installing full applications on Windows? My app has multiple file types, file extensions and icons. I have fonts to install as well and adding the application to the Start menu and file associations. In the past I have used InstallShield. Ug... just typing the phrase "InstallShield" makes me a little dizzy! What are you using?? Thanks in advance, Dan ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "unknown publisher" under Windows Vista
Ah, good info Bill. Thanks. On Mar 23, 2007, at 11:46 AM, Bill Marriott wrote: Chris, After building my standalone, which is sort of a launcher app for my main installer, and running it under Windows Vista, I get the security warning that tells me the publisher for the exe is unknown. Unfortunately, applications you author with Rev cannot simply "inherit" the signature. Rev's installer is "known" because it is digitally "signed" by Revolution in accordance with Microsoft's guidelines. Your standalone is a brand-new program as far as Vista is concerned. And rightly so, because anyone could use a programming tool like Rev to write a program that wreaks havoc. In order to sign your code, you need to have a digital certificate from Verisign, and then you need to go through the code signing process as outlined here: http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/security/authcode/signing.asp ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: "unknown publisher" under Windows Vista
I know. It drives me nuts! Unfortunately my company has to support it, or I probably wouldn't even bother. On Mar 23, 2007, at 11:17 AM, Devin Asay wrote: On Mar 23, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Chris Sheffield wrote: After building my standalone, which is sort of a launcher app for my main installer, and running it under Windows Vista, I get the security warning that tells me the publisher for the exe is unknown. Anyone know how I can make it "known"? As far as I can tell, I've filled in all the pertinent information in the standalone builder, but nothing seems to take care of the problem. I noticed that Rev's latest installer does not produce this warning, as the publisher appears to be "known". I've looked at the properties for my exe and for the Rev installer and, as far as I can tell, they've both got the same information. Theirs produces the normal "A program needs your permissions to continue" dialog, while mean produces a "An unidentified program wants access to your computer" dialog. Anyone run into this? I get this warning with other applications I use, mostly those that are older and haven't yet been updated for Vista. "You are pointing out Vista's flaws. Cancel or Allow?" Sorry, couldn't resist. :-) DNA ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
"unknown publisher" under Windows Vista
After building my standalone, which is sort of a launcher app for my main installer, and running it under Windows Vista, I get the security warning that tells me the publisher for the exe is unknown. Anyone know how I can make it "known"? As far as I can tell, I've filled in all the pertinent information in the standalone builder, but nothing seems to take care of the problem. I noticed that Rev's latest installer does not produce this warning, as the publisher appears to be "known". I've looked at the properties for my exe and for the Rev installer and, as far as I can tell, they've both got the same information. Theirs produces the normal "A program needs your permissions to continue" dialog, while mean produces a "An unidentified program wants access to your computer" dialog. Anyone run into this? I get this warning with other applications I use, mostly those that are older and haven't yet been updated for Vista. Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: make Rev standalone wait for external app
Hi Ken, This is what I ended up doing. Seems to work just find. On the Windows side, launching the app with the shell seems to automatically wait until it's finished. I was just hoping I could do the same thing on the Mac side. Doesn't seem to be the case though. Thanks, Chris On Mar 7, 2007, at 12:52 PM, Ken Ray wrote: Well, theoretically if you launch the installer with "open process", you can continually check the openProcesses in a loop until the process disappears from the openProcesses... haven't tried it myself, but theoretically should work. ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
make Rev standalone wait for external app
On OS X 10.4.8, Rev 2.8 gm3. I need to launch an external app (installer) from my Rev standalone. I need my standalone to wait for the app to close before continuing. What's the best way to do this? I've tried several different things including using the launch command, using the shell() function, and using the "open application" command via AppleScript. Nothing seems to work. My standalone continues on immediately following the code to open the external app. Is there some other way? Or will it be necessary to just sit in a repeat loop, watching for the application to quit. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Chris ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: revZip and rev 2.8 gm-3
Excellent Jacque. Thanks. I'll give this a try. I knew I was just missing something obvious. And I actually do have code that sets my externals on startup, I just wasn't getting the path correct. This should help. Thanks again. On Feb 22, 2007, at 12:02 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Chris Sheffield wrote: I'm having a problem that I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced. This is OS X, btw. I have an application that makes use of the revZip library. I have the standalone builder settings set to search for required inclusions. The first problem is that the revZip bundle does not get copied to my standalone, which I believe is a long outstanding bug, which I thought was supposed to have been fixed with 2.8. The second problem is that, even if I manually copy the revZip.bundle into my standalone package, the standalone errors when making a call to a revZip function. In other words, it's not finding the bundle. I have it copied to the Externals folder within the app bundle. I have also tried explicitly setting the externals of my stack, but I can't seem to get the path quite right to this Externals folder. The only way I've been able to get it to work without errors is to simply set the externals to "revzip.bundle" and then place the bundle directly next to my app bundle, not inside it. But I would really like to have this app be as self- contained as possible, so I'd prefer to have the revzip.bundle inside my app bundle. First of all, has anyone else experienced these problems with the standalone builder Rev 2.8? I think I'm about ready to report them to runtime. And second, what should I set the path to in the externals property so that I can keep the revzip.bundle inside my app bundle? I think I'm just not getting it quite right. I'd prefer to use a relative path if possible. Should it be something like "./[AppBundleName]/Contents/MacOS/Externals/revzip.bundle"? Can anyone help? I always set externals dynamically on startup. This has always worked for me: on startup if the platform = "macos" then set the externals of this stack to \ pathToBundleData() & "myExternal.bundle" else set the externals of this stack to \ pathToBundleData() & "myExternal.dll" end if end startup function pathToBundleData put the effective filename of this stack into tPath set the itemDel to slash delete last item of tPath return tPath & "/Externals/" end pathToBundleData This sets the externals property to the Externals folder regardless of whether it is inside a Mac bundle or in a folder next to the app in a Windows standalone. Note that the startup message is the only time you can dynamically set externals. I've had varying success with hard-coding the paths into the stack, which is why I started doing it this way. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
revZip and rev 2.8 gm-3
I'm having a problem that I'm wondering if anyone else has experienced. This is OS X, btw. I have an application that makes use of the revZip library. I have the standalone builder settings set to search for required inclusions. The first problem is that the revZip bundle does not get copied to my standalone, which I believe is a long outstanding bug, which I thought was supposed to have been fixed with 2.8. The second problem is that, even if I manually copy the revZip.bundle into my standalone package, the standalone errors when making a call to a revZip function. In other words, it's not finding the bundle. I have it copied to the Externals folder within the app bundle. I have also tried explicitly setting the externals of my stack, but I can't seem to get the path quite right to this Externals folder. The only way I've been able to get it to work without errors is to simply set the externals to "revzip.bundle" and then place the bundle directly next to my app bundle, not inside it. But I would really like to have this app be as self-contained as possible, so I'd prefer to have the revzip.bundle inside my app bundle. First of all, has anyone else experienced these problems with the standalone builder Rev 2.8? I think I'm about ready to report them to runtime. And second, what should I set the path to in the externals property so that I can keep the revzip.bundle inside my app bundle? I think I'm just not getting it quite right. I'd prefer to use a relative path if possible. Should it be something like "./ [AppBundleName]/Contents/MacOS/Externals/revzip.bundle"? Can anyone help? Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] Son 2.0
Congratulations Malte! Both look happy and healthy. :-) Take care, Chris Sheffield On Feb 21, 2007, at 1:17 PM, Malte Brill wrote: Hi all, just wanted to let you know that my second kid arrived today. Mattis Johan Pfaff Length 55 cm Weight 4280 gramm http://www.derbrill.de/linusundmattis.jpg All the best, Malte ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: stackFileFormat and RunRev 2.8.x
Hi Dave, Looks like you haven't received a response to this yet. The answer is yes, but you have to set a new pref for it to work. Simply bring up Rev's preferences, go to the Files & Memory section, then check the box for "Preserve stack file version..." I tried this just yesterday and it seems to work just fine. Good luck, Chris Sheffield On Feb 21, 2007, at 3:43 AM, Dave wrote: Hi All, Does anyone know if the 2.8.x version of RunRev has the bug fix so that legacy stack format files get saved in the legacy old format? Thanks a lot All the Best Dave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ------ Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: answer dialog over modal window
Well, I ended up solving my own problem, but I'm pretty sure there's a bug here, as Rev is not behaving as the docs say it should in this case. I'm pretty sure, but someone please correct me if I'm wrong, that the docs say that using open stack "blahblah" as sheet will open the stack as a modal window when running under OS's that don't support sheets. But for some reason it's not working correctly. When I changed the command to open stack "blahblah" as modal, and then opened the answer dialog, it appeared over the modal window correctly. Using sheet with the open stack command is doing something different. I mean, the dialog appears as modal and works as modal, but when you try to open another modal over it, like the answer dialog, no dice. Not a huge issue since there's a workaround, but I think I'll report this to Runtime. Either the behavior should reflect the docs, or the docs should reflect the behavior. :-) Thanks, Chris On Feb 12, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Chris Sheffield wrote: I'm having a strange problem. Seems to be happening only under Windows (tested on Windows XP, server 2003). I'm not sure if it's something I've done wrong or if I've found a bug in Rev. Maybe someone can help. Running Rev 2.7.4. I have an application that at one point opens a modal dialog for the user to change some settings. When the user clicks the save button, a verification routine runs to make sure all necessary settings are correct. If there's a problem, I simply bring up the answer dialog to inform the user so they can fix it. But there seems to be a problem opening a modal window (answer dialog) over another modal window. The answer dialog opens behind the already open modal window instead of in front of it. And there's no way to switch to it. I even tried using Task Manager to switch to the answer dialog, but that didn't do anything. So the application looks as though it's hanging, when really it's just waiting for user input. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a workaround for it? Everything works fine on the Mac. Of course, on the Mac I'm opening my settings dialog as a sheet rather than as a regular modal window. Any thoughts? Thanks, Chris -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Chris Sheffield Read Naturally The Fluency Company http://www.readnaturally.com -- ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
