Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)--YES!
Bon Jurno, Paul, Buon giorno, Rob, 1. Would this work? Nice script. In my first post about this problem I have wrote that a solution similar to yours may surely works, but I was searching for some way to not load all images (for memory problemns) in my stack; now i'm supposing that this will be the only way... Merci beaucoup, Rob, pour ton temps et ton aide. Cao! Ciao! Paul Claude -- Greetings from Rome ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)--YES!
Bon Jurno, Paul, You got reason, perhaps I have not explained well the problem. My stack is an utility that simply shows the images of another choosen stack opened by the user; so I cannot know if the user have one or many open stacks, and what stack was opened before, or the potential ID conflicts. That's why my only goal was to succeed to indicate exactly from which open stack my utility read the images, avoiding eventual ID conflicts of previously opened stacks. 1. Would this work? Create a number of invisible thumbnail images [not buttons; lock size position] on the image display card of your utility stack. Utility stack script: answer file Please select a stack to see its images... if the result is Cancel then exit to top push card lock screen repeat with x = 1 to the number of images of me hide image x of me end repeat open invisible stack it repeat with x = 1 to the number of images of stack it set the imageData of image x of me to the imageData of image x of stack it show image x of me end repeat close stack it pop card set the itemDelimiter to / put item -1 of it into field Image Source -- if you want the image stack name to appear unlock screen I presume you have logic to handle the case where there are more images in the stack you are opening then there are buttons to display them. Just change it to deal with images. 2. I previously suggested when a thread boils down to two or three people, it should be taken off list. Actually, I was focusing on off-topic conversations, and feel that conversations such as this between Paul moi should remain on the list so long as the focus is strictly how to use Revolution. Do others agree or disagree? Cao! Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company Vive R Revolution! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)--YES!
Dear Rob, I cannot change in any way the X2 or X3 stack, because it is an external stack, not mine, and it may change everytime: I'm not switching themes, I'm browsing stacks. on 5-01-2006 17:15, Rob Cozens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can your design allow you to separate the images in X2 from the resources that must be opened? (If not, why not?) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)--YES!
Paul, Can your design allow you to separate the images in X2 from the resources that must be opened? I understand now that stacks X2 X3 were created by other people. I also understand that, for whatever reason, X2 must be remain open when X3 is opened. This leaves me mystified as to what you want to achieve (not that it's any of my business; but it's hard to propose a solution when one doesn't understand the problem). * Are you trying to compare the two stacks? * Do you have some other reason for needing them both open at the same time? * If they were authored by the same person and meant to work in tandem, you should notify the author of the conflict. * If they were authored by different people but still meant to work with others' stacks open, you should notify both authors of the conflict. The odds of icon conflict are greatest, I suggest, when authors import images and leave the ids as assigned by Rev. At the very least, increasing the id values for images by some six-digit amount reduces the odds of icon conflict. If the author(s) of X2 and X3 expect their stacks to be run along with others' stacks, they should reserve a set of unique icon ids on Ken Ray's website. Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company Vive R Revolution! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)--YES!
Hi Rob, You got reason, perhaps I have not explained well the problem. My stack is an utility that simply shows the images of another choosen stack opened by the user; so I cannot know if the user have one or many open stacks, and what stack was opened before, or the potential ID conflicts. That's why my only goal was to succeed to indicate exactly from which open stack my utility read the images, avoiding eventual ID conflicts of previously opened stacks. I'm sorry for my poor english ;-) Paul Claude -- Greetings from Rome on 9-01-2006 17:56, Rob Cozens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This leaves me mystified as to what you want to achieve (not that it's any of my business; but it's hard to propose a solution when one doesn't understand the problem). ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)--YES!
Hi Rob, Very good work. It actually may help people who must switch themes of a stack. For my needs, I cannot close the stack X2, therefore your solution it's not applicable. Thanks however. Paul Claude on 5-01-2006 6:40, Rob Cozens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Chameleon stack script: On the vain presumption this might actually be of use to some people, here's an improved version. Initialization is moved from openStack to preOpenStack and the handlers otherwise tweaked. local imagePath1,imagePath2,currentLibrary on preOpenStack get the effective fileName of this stack set the itemDelimiter to / put X2.rev into item -1 of it put it into imagePath1 put X3.rev into item -1 of it put it into imagePath2 start using stack imagePath1 put imagePath1 into currentLibrary refreshButtons end preOpenStack on switchLibraries set the itemDelimiter to / stop using stack currentLibrary close stack currentLibrary get item -1 of currentLibrary if it is x3.rev then -- use switch logic if toggling between three or more icon libraries start using stack imagePath1 put imagePath1 into currentLibrary else start using stack imagePath2 put imagePath2 into currentLibrary end if send refreshButtons to this stack in 1 tick end switchLibraries on refreshButtons lock screen repeat with x = 1 to the number of buttons set the icon of button x to (the icon of button x) end repeat unlock screen end refreshButtons Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company Vive R Revolution! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)--YES!
Paul, I cannot close the stack X2, therefore your solution it's not applicable. Can your design allow you to separate the images in X2 from the resources that must be opened? (If not, why not?) Keep what needs to be open in X2 and place the images in new stack, X4. (There's no reason X2 can't use the image resources in X4 just as X1 does.) Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company Vive R Revolution! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)--YES!
Paul, Can your design allow you to separate the images in X2 from the resources that must be opened? A simpler solution?: on switchLibraries stop using stack currentLibrary -- may need to be tweaked? close stack currentLibrary set the itemDelimiter to / get item -1 of currentLibrary if it is x3.rev then start using stack imagePath1 put imagePath1 into currentLibrary else start using stack imagePath2 put imagePath2 into currentLibrary end if send refreshButtons to this stack in 1 tick if currentLibrary is imagePath2 then stop using stack imagePath2 close stack imagePath2 lock messages -- [?] open stack imagePath1 -- /or start using ? unlock messages -- don't change currentLibrary, so the next call will toggle [may cause problems in line 1 2 above] end if end switchLibraries Experience shows us the icons won't change if refreshButtons is not sent to the stack. Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company Vive R Revolution! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)--YES!
if currentLibrary is imagePath2 then stop using stack imagePath2 close stack imagePath2 lock messages -- [?] open stack imagePath1 -- /or start using ? unlock messages -- don't change currentLibrary, so the next call will toggle [may cause problems in line 1 2 above] end if actually needs to be at the end of the refreshButtons handler to work correctly. Another means of changing icons en mass would be to set button profiles with the appropriate icons. The downsides of this are (1) profiles -- at least for moi -- are prone to error if you don't know what you are doing (eg: changing a property which has not been identified in the current profile establishes identifies that property in the master profile), and (2) this keeps both sets of icons in RAM at all times. Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company Vive R Revolution! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Eric Chatonet Images are the only objects the IDs of which can be changed: Just change the IDs of some images to avoid any conflict :-) And keep on hand the IDs list :-) In order to be meticulous, you can store all images in a stack or a substack, or put them onto a specific card dedicated to them. Right, Eric, it's a Columbus egg, but you must consider that I cannot change those Ids and that stack X2 and X3 are not mine and they are changing often. So I need another solution. Rob Cozens CCW Try: start using stack x3 lock screen repeat with x = 1 to the number of buttons set the icon of button x to (the icon of button x) end repeat unlock screen or going to another card in stack x1. Well Rob, I really doesn't understand what you means. It's not a problem of sceen redrawing, the problem is that, as explained in my example, I cannot load (with the expression 'set the icon of btn x to...') the image in stack X3 if an image with the same ID is in stack X2, and I don't know how solve this problem. Greetings Paul Claude P.S. Is there anybody that can tell me how to append my messages to this list to an existing thread, without beginning each time a new thread (I use entourage X)? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Hi Paul, Well :-) Sorry if I misunderstood. You could try this tested workaround: on SetImage pID local tFlag -- if there is an image ID pID then set the ID of image ID pID to 25 put true into tFlag end if put image ID pID of stack X3 into image Template -- or what you want :-) if tFlag then set the ID of image ID 25 to pID end SetImage Le 4 janv. 06 à 13:44, Paul Claude a écrit : Eric Chatonet Images are the only objects the IDs of which can be changed: Just change the IDs of some images to avoid any conflict :-) And keep on hand the IDs list :-) In order to be meticulous, you can store all images in a stack or a substack, or put them onto a specific card dedicated to them. Right, Eric, it's a Columbus egg, but you must consider that I cannot change those Ids and that stack X2 and X3 are not mine and they are changing often. So I need another solution. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
I made things far too much complicated :-) put image ID ID of stack x3 into image Image Name is enough ;-) Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet Le 4 janv. 06 à 14:04, Eric Chatonet a écrit : Hi Paul, Well :-) Sorry if I misunderstood. You could try this tested workaround: on SetImage pID local tFlag -- if there is an image ID pID then set the ID of image ID pID to 25 put true into tFlag end if put image ID pID of stack X3 into image Template -- or what you want :-) if tFlag then set the ID of image ID 25 to pID end SetImage Le 4 janv. 06 à 13:44, Paul Claude a écrit : Eric Chatonet Images are the only objects the IDs of which can be changed: Just change the IDs of some images to avoid any conflict :-) And keep on hand the IDs list :-) In order to be meticulous, you can store all images in a stack or a substack, or put them onto a specific card dedicated to them. Right, Eric, it's a Columbus egg, but you must consider that I cannot change those Ids and that stack X2 and X3 are not mine and they are changing often. So I need another solution. -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Well :-) Sorry if I misunderstood. You could try this tested workaround: on SetImage pID local tFlag -- if there is an image ID pID then set the ID of image ID pID to 25 put true into tFlag end if put image ID pID of stack X3 into image Template -- or what you want :-) if tFlag then set the ID of image ID 25 to pID end SetImage Thanks, Eric, this surely works; I only was searching for a tip to avoid the change (also if temporary) of the source image ID, as I can have many stacks opened and many images to load together, but I am beginning to think that it does not exist :-( Thanks again Paul Claude ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
On 1/4/06 7:34 AM, Paul Claude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Eric, this surely works; I only was searching for a tip to avoid the change (also if temporary) of the source image ID, as I can have many stacks opened and many images to load together, but I am beginning to think that it does not exist :-( Unfortunately, you're right, Paul. If you have two images with the same ID open at the same time, you can't assign an icon to a button by ID and be able to clearly pick which one you want. So you either need to renumber the IDs (temporarily), or only open one stack at a time and make sure the destroyStack property is turned on so that it is purged from memory when it closes. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
On 1/4/06 6:44 AM, Paul Claude [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. Is there anybody that can tell me how to append my messages to this list to an existing thread, without beginning each time a new thread (I use entourage X)? Well, I use Entourage 2004, and if you're talking about how to keep things together when you choose Arrange By Subject (or the equivalent) to keep things sorted by conversation topic, you should be able to simply reply to each email, and so long as the subject line stays the same, or has Re: in front of the subject, they should be grouped together properly in the same thread. Or am I missing something? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
I made things far too much complicated :-) put image ID ID of stack x3 into image Image Name is enough ;-) Eric, the problem was another: set the icon of btn x of stack X1 to (image ID ID of stack x3) doesn't works if also in stack X2 there is an image with the same ID: Revoultion loads the image of X2 in place of the one of X3, also if these images have differents names. Unfortunately, you're right, Paul. If you have two images with the same ID open at the same time, you can't assign an icon to a button by ID and be able to clearly pick which one you want. So you either need to renumber the IDs (temporarily), or only open one stack at a time and make sure the destroyStack property is turned on so that it is purged from memory when it closes. Thanks, Ken, now I can surrender... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Then use the previous script a bit modified: on SetImage pID,pButton,pStackName local tFlag -- set the cantAbort of this stack to true if there is an image ID pID of stack pStackName then set the ID of image ID pID of stack pStackName to 25 put true into tFlag end if set the icon of btn pButton to image ID 25 of stack pStackName -- or what you want :-) if tFlag then set the ID of image ID 25 of stack pStackName to pID set the cantAbort of this stack to false end SetImage As Ken told you too and as far as I know, you have not another solution. Le 4 janv. 06 à 14:44, Paul Claude a écrit : I made things far too much complicated :-) put image ID ID of stack x3 into image Image Name is enough ;-) Eric, the problem was another: set the icon of btn x of stack X1 to (image ID ID of stack x3) doesn't works if also in stack X2 there is an image with the same ID: Revoultion loads the image of X2 in place of the one of X3, also if these images have differents names. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Sorry: you will have rectified: set the icon of btn pButton to 25 Le 4 janv. 06 à 14:51, Eric Chatonet a écrit : Then use the previous script a bit modified: on SetImage pID,pButton,pStackName local tFlag -- set the cantAbort of this stack to true if there is an image ID pID of stack pStackName then set the ID of image ID pID of stack pStackName to 25 put true into tFlag end if set the icon of btn pButton to image ID 25 of stack pStackName -- or what you want :-) if tFlag then set the ID of image ID 25 of stack pStackName to pID set the cantAbort of this stack to false end SetImage As Ken told you too and as far as I know, you have not another solution. Le 4 janv. 06 à 14:44, Paul Claude a écrit : I made things far too much complicated :-) put image ID ID of stack x3 into image Image Name is enough ;-) Eric, the problem was another: set the icon of btn x of stack X1 to (image ID ID of stack x3) doesn't works if also in stack X2 there is an image with the same ID: Revoultion loads the image of X2 in place of the one of X3, also if these images have differents names. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Paul, Try: start using stack x3 lock screen repeat with x = 1 to the number of buttons set the icon of button x to (the icon of button x) end repeat unlock screen or going to another card in stack x1. Well Rob, I really doesn't understand what you means. It's not a problem of sceen redrawing, the problem is that, as explained in my example, I cannot load (with the expression 'set the icon of btn x to...') the image in stack X3 if an image with the same ID is in stack X2, and I don't know how solve this problem. That is precisely what I expect the code above to accomplish. The start using command places stack x3 before stack x2 [presumed to have been opened or put in use earlier] in the message path; so set the icon of button x to (the icon of button x) should now find the icon in stack x3 instead of x2. Did you try it? If you care to send me your stacks privately, I will test it here. Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company Vive R Revolution! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Paul, et al, If you care to send me your stacks privately, I will test it here. Spurred on by Ken's assertion that it couldn't be done, I spent the last 90 minutes trying to prove him wrong...and failed. * I built a two card stack with three buttons with icons on the first one button with an icon on the second. * I added two radio buttons to card 1 that switch between one image library and the other. * I created two image library stacks, x2 and x3. X2 contains three images; x3 contains four, with the first three having the same ids as the three in x2. The icon on the button on card 2 is set to the id of the fourth image in x3. * alwaysBuffer is false for all stacks images, and destroyStack is true for both image libraries * If I don't start using library x3 before going to card 2, the button icon on card 2 is empty. Once I start using x3, the icon appears on card 2, and remains after I close x3 and start using x2 again. * I have tried simply stop using a library stack and actually closing it...which should remove the images from RAM--no go * I have tried setting the icon to empty and resetting it--nada also I conclude that the imageData for icons is stored somewhere at runtime -- despite alwaysBuffer being false -- and, one resolved, Rev keeps it separate from the stack data. I'm curious whether this would have worked in the HyperCard runtime environment; but not curious enough to spend more time on it now. Rob Cozens CCW Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)--YES!
Paul, Ken, et al,
It's alive!
My icon-changing stack, Chameleon is now changing icons on-the-fly.
Chameleon stack script:
local imagePath1,imagePath2,currentLibrary
on openStack
get the effective fileName of this stack
set the itemDelimiter to /
put X2.rev into item -1 of it
put it into imagePath1
put X3.rev into item -1 of it
put it into imagePath2
start using stack imagePath1
put imagePath1 into currentLibrary
refreshButtons
end openStack
on switchLibraries
set the itemDelimiter to /
get item -1 of currentLibrary
if it is x3.rev then
stop using stack imagePath2
close stack imagePath2
start using stack imagePath1
put imagePath1 into currentLibrary
else
stop using stack imagePath1
close stack imagePath1
start using stack imagePath2
put imagePath2 into currentLibrary
end if
send refreshButtons to this stack in 1 tick
end switchLibraries
on refreshButtons
repeat with x = 1 to the number of buttons
set the icon of button x to (the icon of button x)
end repeat
end refreshButtons
The key to making this work was sending refreshButtons to the stack
instead of calling it from the handler that switches the libraries.
Also, one must close the previous library [with destroyStack true],
not just stop using it.
So all you game builders who want to change the look and difficulty
as the user reaches each new level could address that with multiple
libraries containing images with the same icon id and handlers with
the same name but different logic.
It's gratifying when one's long-term hunch proves to be correct. :{`)
Rob Cozens CCW
Serendipity Software Company
And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three;
Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee.
from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631)
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Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)--YES!
All, Chameleon stack script: On the vain presumption this might actually be of use to some people, here's an improved version. Initialization is moved from openStack to preOpenStack and the handlers otherwise tweaked. local imagePath1,imagePath2,currentLibrary on preOpenStack get the effective fileName of this stack set the itemDelimiter to / put X2.rev into item -1 of it put it into imagePath1 put X3.rev into item -1 of it put it into imagePath2 start using stack imagePath1 put imagePath1 into currentLibrary refreshButtons end preOpenStack on switchLibraries set the itemDelimiter to / stop using stack currentLibrary close stack currentLibrary get item -1 of currentLibrary if it is x3.rev then -- use switch logic if toggling between three or more icon libraries start using stack imagePath1 put imagePath1 into currentLibrary else start using stack imagePath2 put imagePath2 into currentLibrary end if send refreshButtons to this stack in 1 tick end switchLibraries on refreshButtons lock screen repeat with x = 1 to the number of buttons set the icon of button x to (the icon of button x) end repeat unlock screen end refreshButtons Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company Vive R Revolution! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Hi, Paul, Don't confuse the script of an object in the hierarchy with the order of stack windows you ³see². Invoking 'start using' places the *stack script* of that stack in the *message* hierarchy, not the stack itself. Construct a reference to a stack by name and that will be the location eg image 1 of card id 1265 of stack Image Lib People Also if stored in a different folder use ³/Users/MyLogin/Documents/RevLibStacks/ImageLib.rev² for example. In Rev, the filePath is the location and name of the file or folder whose long equivalent you want. put the longfilepath of the filename of this stack If you specify a name but not a location, Revolution assumes the stack is in the defaultFolder. Hi Jim, My problem is a little different. Think to have 3 open stacks, named x1, x2 and x3, and opened in this order. Stack X2 and Stack X3 have two images with the same ID (i.e. 1008). How you set the icon of a button in stack x1 with the image id 1008 of stack x3? 1) Using: set the icon of btn y to 1008 shows the icon of stack x2 2) Using: set the icon of btn y to (image ID 1008 of stack thelongfilepath) shows nothing 3) 'Start using' or 'set defaultStack' does'nt change the things. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Hi Paul, Images are the only objects the IDs of which can be changed: Just change the IDs of some images to avoid any conflict :-) And keep on hand the IDs list :-) In order to be meticulous, you can store all images in a stack or a substack, or put them onto a specific card dedicated to them. Le 3 janv. 06 à 14:09, Paul Claude a écrit : Think to have 3 open stacks, named x1, x2 and x3, and opened in this order. Stack X2 and Stack X3 have two images with the same ID (i.e. 1008). How you set the icon of a button in stack x1 with the image id 1008 of stack x3? 1) Using: set the icon of btn y to 1008 shows the icon of stack x2 2) Using: set the icon of btn y to (image ID 1008 of stack thelongfilepath) shows nothing 3) 'Start using' or 'set defaultStack' does'nt change the things. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet -- http://www.sosmartsoftware.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Hi Paul, 3) 'Start using' or 'set defaultStack' does'nt change the things. Try: start using stack x3 lock screen repeat with x = 1 to the number of buttons set the icon of button x to (the icon of button x) end repeat unlock screen or going to another card in stack x1. Basically, you need to redraw the screen to see the new icons. If this doesn't work, let me know and I'll help you search for a better answer. Since HyperCard days I have mused about changing the look and feel of a stack by doing exactly what you are trying to do; but I've yet to have a need for that in the applications I'm programming. Rob Cozens CCW Serendipity Software Company And I, which was two fooles, do so grow three; Who are a little wise, the best fooles bee. from The Triple Foole by John Donne (1572-1631) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Hi Paul, There is a way to tell to Revolution to look in stack X before the other open stacks, even if they have been loaded previously? start using stack X places stack X ahead of all other library stacks in the message chain; but it will not place it ahead of the topStack. The images may need to be on card 1 if the stack is in use but otherwise unopened. I have suggested previously, but never seriously explored, the possibility that one could change the look and feel of an app with one start using statement that toggled between two library stacks containing different sets of images with the same ids. Hi Rob, I've tried your tip, but it seems that the start using stack method works for scripts but not to 'link' images as icons. Maybe Revolution use another message path hierarchy for this. PaulClaude ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Hi Paul, start using stack X places stack X ahead of all other library stacks in the message chain; but it will not place it ahead of the topStack. The images may need to be on card 1 if the stack is in use but otherwise unopened. I am referencing images in the library stack as button icon ids in the current stack. This works fine here on Mac OS Windows. One other possibility: to see the images change without opening a different card, one may need to script something like start using stack myImageLibrary repeat with x = 1 to the number of buttons set the icon of button x to (the icon of button x) end repeat Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company Vive R Revolution! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
start using stack X places stack X ahead of all other library stacks in the message chain; but it will not place it ahead of the topStack. The images may need to be on card 1 if the stack is in use but otherwise unopened. Hi, Paul, Don't confuse the script of an object in the hierarchy with the order of stack windows you ³see². Invoking 'start using' places the *stack script* of that stack in the *message* hierarchy, not the stack itself. Construct a reference to a stack by name and that will be the location eg image 1 of card id 1265 of stack Image Lib People Also if stored in a different folder use ³/Users/MyLogin/Documents/RevLibStacks/ImageLib.rev² for example. In Rev, the filePath is the location and name of the file or folder whose long equivalent you want. put the longfilepath of the filename of this stack If you specify a name but not a location, Revolution assumes the stack is in the defaultFolder. Getting a script in the message hierarchy could be --start using stack whatever --insert the script of btn 3 of card 1 of stack ImageLib into back -- insert the script of card 1 of stack ImageLib into front -- insert the script of stack ImageLib into front but regardless of the handler location, you must reference the correct stack, card, object. By the way, you can reference an object on card 22 of stack ³ImageLib² without opening the stack. Try it and see if it works. Returns a list of the names of all stacks that are loaded into memory. revLoadedStacks([whichStacks]) --try these in the msg box put revLoadedStacks() put revLoadedStacks(all) HTH Jim Ault Las Vegas On 12/12/05 7:47 AM, Rob Cozens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paul, I am referencing images in the library stack as button icon ids in the current stack. This works fine here on Mac OS Windows. One other possibility: to see the images change without opening a different card, one may need to script something like start using stack myImageLibrary repeat with x = 1 to the number of buttons set the icon of button x to (the icon of button x) end repeat Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company Vive R Revolution! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
To assign temporary an image to the button icon of your stack, Revolution looks for the specified image first in the current stack, then in other open stacks. But if you need to indicate an image of another open stack X (without copying the image to your stack), you can assign this image to your button only if this image has an id different from those in open stacks loaded before the stack X. There is a way to tell to Revolution to look in stack X before the other open stacks, even if they have been loaded previously? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Hi Paul, As far as I know: No. Alphabetical order may be.. But the best way between different main stacks you want run together is to not have the same IDs for any image. Change them in the property palette. But don't use the following: * 1-100: reserved for built-in cursors * 101-135: reserved for built-in brush shapes * 236-300: reserved for built-in patterns * 301-1000: reserved for built-in icons * 101,000-103,000: reserved * 200,000-299,999: reserved for application use Nevertheless you have the choice... Le 6 déc. 05 à 17:06, Paul Claude a écrit : To assign temporary an image to the button icon of your stack, Revolution looks for the specified image first in the current stack, then in other open stacks. But if you need to indicate an image of another open stack X (without copying the image to your stack), you can assign this image to your button only if this image has an id different from those in open stacks loaded before the stack X. There is a way to tell to Revolution to look in stack X before the other open stacks, even if they have been loaded previously? Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Eric, isn't the Rev interop group reserving image IDs? Like passive reserve, you just go there and reserve your range to make sure there's no conflict when stacks are interoperating... cheers andre On Dec 6, 2005, at 2:11 PM, Eric Chatonet wrote: Hi Paul, As far as I know: No. Alphabetical order may be.. But the best way between different main stacks you want run together is to not have the same IDs for any image. Change them in the property palette. But don't use the following: * 1-100: reserved for built-in cursors * 101-135: reserved for built-in brush shapes * 236-300: reserved for built-in patterns * 301-1000: reserved for built-in icons * 101,000-103,000: reserved * 200,000-299,999: reserved for application use Nevertheless you have the choice... ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Absolutely Andre :-) Ken, [EMAIL PROTECTED] manages this with great kindness... Le 6 déc. 05 à 17:15, Andre Garzia a écrit : isn't the Rev interop group reserving image IDs? Like passive reserve, you just go there and reserve your range to make sure there's no conflict when stacks are interoperating... Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
On 12/6/05 10:15 AM, Andre Garzia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric, isn't the Rev interop group reserving image IDs? Like passive reserve, you just go there and reserve your range to make sure there's no conflict when stacks are interoperating... Yes, you can go to the RevInterop group on Yahoo: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/revInterop and go to the Database area, where we're maintaining the IDs. If you would like to reserve a range of unused IDs, please send me an email offlist and I'll update the database. Thanks, Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
On 12/6/05 10:18 AM, Eric Chatonet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely Andre :-) Ken, [EMAIL PROTECTED] manages this with great kindness... Thanks for this kind words, Eric! :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Web site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Hi Paul, There is a way to tell to Revolution to look in stack X before the other open stacks, even if they have been loaded previously? start using stack X places stack X ahead of all other library stacks in the message chain; but it will not place it ahead of the topStack. The images may need to be on card 1 if the stack is in use but otherwise unopened. I have suggested previously, but never seriously explored, the possibility that one could change the look and feel of an app with one start using statement that toggled between two library stacks containing different sets of images with the same ids. Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company Vive R Revolution! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Paul, Eric, er al: But don't use the following: * 1-100: reserved for built-in cursors * 101-135: reserved for built-in brush shapes * 236-300: reserved for built-in patterns * 301-1000: reserved for built-in icons * 101,000-103,000: reserved * 200,000-299,999: reserved for application use Please add (I know Ken has) 103000-103999 -- Reserved for Serendipity Software Co. Rob Cozens, CCW Serendipity Software Company Vive R Revolution! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Set the icon to (icon of another stack)
Hi Rob, Interesting idea that could be mixed with profiles: not the easiest to manage but... :-) Le 6 déc. 05 à 18:31, Rob Cozens a écrit : I have suggested previously, but never seriously explored, the possibility that one could change the look and feel of an app with one start using statement that toggled between two library stacks containing different sets of images with the same ids. Best Regards from Paris, Eric Chatonet. So Smart Software For institutions, companies and associations Built-to-order applications: management, multimedia, internet, etc. Windows, Mac OS and Linux... With the French touch Free plugins and tutorials on my website Web sitehttp://www.sosmartsoftware.com/ Email[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ Phone33 (0)1 43 31 77 62 Mobile33 (0)6 20 74 50 86 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
