OT: Mac iPhone DVD Video Converter free for a limited time
Hi, Macxdvd.com is again giving away a software tool for free http://www.macxdvd.com/mac-iphone-dvd-video-converter-pack/ Regards, Matthias ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] buttons for iPhone
A warm thank you! ... all the graphic part is getting so sophisticated these days! I'll test it next few days to make graphics for a iphone version of my site... and I was shivering at the thought of having to spend too much time for a non graphic man in GIMP, the chimp. THanks for sharing. RObert, Versailles. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-buttons-for-iPhone-tp3047653p3048022.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] buttons for iPhone
here is the stack for the iPhone buttons as a revlet: http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/iphonebtnsrevlet/ on my local machine I could even copy the images and the button object into a new Livecode stack. If you copy a button object and it works you will see an install button, click on it to make the icons visible. Dont know about fonts etc. might not work in all the real web. If this works you could get your buttons from a revlet... regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-buttons-for-iPhone-tp3047653p3047713.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] buttons for iPhone
I tried to make the making of buttons for the iPhone / iPad easier. The stack consists of graphics that are changeable in width height color, arrow right, arrow left, round rect. Set the font of the text. Once you configured your 'button' you make a snapshot of the graphics as PNG to use in your project. Also makes complete buttons with images contained, all that in a group with an install button to be copied to your project and installed. Hope it looks a bit like native iOS buttons. And hope it saves a lot of time in Photoshop. as a zipped stack: http://www.berndniggemann.on-rev.com/btnsiphone/buttonsiphone_0.1.livecode.zip or type/paste in your message box: go stack url "http://www.berndniggemann.on-rev.com/btnsiphone/buttonsiphone_0.1.livecode"; and hit return. Watch out for linebreaks feedback welcome regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-buttons-for-iPhone-tp3047653p3047653.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] scrolling list field for iPhone
Hi Josep, thank you. No bouncing though. best regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-scrolling-list-field-for-iPhone-tp3028978p3029551.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] scrolling list field for iPhone
Hi Bernd, It's perfect! I test with the simulator and it's very impresive. Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-scrolling-list-field-for-iPhone-tp3028978p3029044.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] scrolling list field for iPhone
I tried to make a scrolling list field object similar to the address book for the iPhone. for easing I use a modified Scott Rossi /Richard Herz algorithm. Touch interface is tricky so I tought I post it here for others to try/improve. Scrolls quite well on the iPhone 3G system 4.1 (my worst case), probably better on newer iPhones. It scrolls definitely better on the iPad. As a revlet/stack on a desktop computer/ in the simulator it is probably too fast. Click on the field and drag the mouse. This stack results from a project with Rolf Kocherhans. As a revlet http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/iphonelistfieldrevlet/ as a stack zipped http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/iphonelistfield/SLF-9.livecode.zip comments/feedback/improvements welcome regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-scrolling-list-field-for-iPhone-tp3028978p3028978.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Skyfire for Flash on iPhone, iPad
This might be old news to the Mac Mavens. If not, check out this link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/02/skyfire-app-enables-flash-video_n_777820.html ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
determining active language (iphone)
Hello all. Finishing my first App for iPhone I'm searching for a clean way to check the active language on the users iPhone. The best solution I found is an old one which works fine on Mac and the iPhone Simulator. On a real phone it crashes, perhaps because of this shell-thing? http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/revolution/tips/lang003.htm Does anyone know a good solution for determining the active language? I heard about this "look at the weekday"-workaround but I would prefer to find a clean solution. Best regards, Harald. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
Rolf, thank you. And thank you for testing the first version (the one that was slow as molasses) and for encouraging me to actually register with apple as a developer. I even had to send them a photocopy of my ID-card attested by a notary because I messed up on the billing address of my credit card. Well, and I even got the certificates to work. Don't ask me what exactly they are doing... And the code still could use some optimizations, like an implementation of a better momentum algorithm. Scott Rossi's is really may I say in the best of Tao tradition. [The Tao you see is not the true Tao unless you refill the toner] supposedly from an printer dialog... Right now I hope someone puts it one the iPhone and tells me how it works in his app. regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-slotmachine-iPhone-was-scrolling-wheel-tp2969862p2989419.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
I am speechless ! Phantastic work ! Cheers Rolf Am 10.10.2010 um 19:00 schrieb use-revolution-requ...@lists.runrev.com: > Hi all, > I announced a scrolling wheel 2 days ago, complaining about the speed of the > RevMobile/iPhone combination for a slot machine /scrolling wheel. I looked > further into this and it turns out that RevMobile can quite well scroll text > fields, less so if there are graphics with gradients and almost not at all > if there are graphic effects. Since I used graphic effects to approximate > the native control that was not a good idea. > Over an image RevMobile can quite acceptably scroll a field. > The whole point of the object I posted was to have a native Rev control for > RevMobile. I decided to throw out the graphic effects, used only fields and > graphics with gradients to fake the native control and then when everything > is done natively in Rev, resizing text size/font etc before deploying to the > iPhone/iPad the object now takes a screenshot of itself, places this image > beneath the scrolling field and is ready to be deployed to the iOS devices: > much better responsiveness. > So although using an image still the native control over the object. > I posted these again here are the addresses (last time I had one link wrong, > sorry for that) > > Please watch out for line breaks > As a revlet > > http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/slotmachine/slotmachinerevlet/ > > as a zipped stack > > http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/slotmachine/slotmachinestack/slotmachineiphone.rev.zip > > > Oh, and I tried to mimick the light blue of the original in this version. > I think this version is a lot more useful than the older, allows for larger > objects, better scrolling on iPhone 3G and up. And I hope it resembles the > native control enough. > regards > Bernd ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevOnline (Was: Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel]
Jacque- Sunday, October 10, 2010, 7:05:41 PM, you wrote: > I get two, but neither are his. They mention him in their text. You get > three? My bad. "Rossi" gets me two... "Scott Rossi" gets me three. Go figure. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevOnline (Was: Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel]
On 10/10/10 7:47 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Jacque- Sunday, October 10, 2010, 4:41:01 PM, you wrote: "Mobile" I guess. Or "Rossi". Only I don't think he's uploaded anything there yet. Neither of those get any hits in the search box. I don't think he has anything there. "Mobile" gets me two hits. "Rossi" gets me three. I get two, but neither are his. They mention him in their text. You get three? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevOnline (Was: Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel]
Jacque- Sunday, October 10, 2010, 4:41:01 PM, you wrote: >>> "Mobile" I guess. Or "Rossi". Only I don't think he's uploaded >>> anything there yet. >>> >> Neither of those get any hits in the search box. > I don't think he has anything there. "Mobile" gets me two hits. "Rossi" gets me three. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevOnline (Was: Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel]
Jacque- Sunday, October 10, 2010, 4:43:52 PM, you wrote: >> I just found it. Over at the top left, after you're in your own account, >> there's a link called "my account" with an "X" next to it. Click the "X" >> and you're back in the full list. >> > Sigh. "My Uploads". Sorry. Intuitive interface, eh? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevOnline (Was: Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel]
On 10/10/10 6:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/10/10 6:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: If you've clicked "My Account" then after that all you see is your own stuff. I had click the sign-out link before I could get the full list back. I'm pretty sure there's another way to do it but I couldn't remember it. I just found it. Over at the top left, after you're in your own account, there's a link called "my account" with an "X" next to it. Click the "X" and you're back in the full list. Sigh. "My Uploads". Sorry. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevOnline (Was: Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel]
On 10/10/10 6:41 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: If you've clicked "My Account" then after that all you see is your own stuff. I had click the sign-out link before I could get the full list back. I'm pretty sure there's another way to do it but I couldn't remember it. I just found it. Over at the top left, after you're in your own account, there's a link called "my account" with an "X" next to it. Click the "X" and you're back in the full list. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: RevOnline (Was: Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel]
On 10/10/10 5:30 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: It currently has 225 entries, in about 90 categories (I guess they're tags, not categories, I think). Which tag would I use to find, say, Scott's scrolling list ? (OK, I'd start with "Awesome", but after that, I'm not sure :-) "Mobile" I guess. Or "Rossi". Only I don't think he's uploaded anything there yet. Neither of those get any hits in the search box. I don't think he has anything there. "Mobile" gets me two hits. I just typed my name in there and all my stuff came up. But it's true that search also brings up entries that happen to contain someone else's name, so yes, it isn't specifically an author search. I just tried that (which name ?? - Gay, Jacqueline, Landman, Hyperactive - all get 0 hits) "Jacqueline", "Jacqueline Landman" and "Jacqueline Landman Gay" show all five. I didn't put my company name on any of them, maybe I should have. But you have to make sure the "All" tag is selected (otherwise results are filtered,) and that you aren't looking in your own account. If you've clicked "My Account" then after that all you see is your own stuff. I had click the sign-out link before I could get the full list back. I'm pretty sure there's another way to do it but I couldn't remember it. I'm sure there were other issues with the new version of RevOnline, but I can't log in to try it out properly. I'm not sure why, but a note to support should fix it. No need - the "automatic password reset" has succeeded. Now I need to find a stack worth uploading :-) Almost anything you've written would be worthwhile. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RevOnline (Was: Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel]
On 10/10/2010 23:14, J. Landman Gay wrote: On 10/10/10 4:47 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: On 10/10/2010 19:16, J. Landman Gay wrote: I think the best repository would be the one provided by RunRev -- RevOnline. Everyone has access to that and sharing stacks and code is its main intention. That may be its main intention- but it does a pitifully poor job of it. It currently has 225 entries, in about 90 categories (I guess they're tags, not categories, I think). Which tag would I use to find, say, Scott's scrolling list ? (OK, I'd start with "Awesome", but after that, I'm not sure :-) "Mobile" I guess. Or "Rossi". Only I don't think he's uploaded anything there yet. Neither of those get any hits in the search box. Why they had to remove the old RevOnline feature of allowing us to search by author is totally beyond me. I just typed my name in there and all my stuff came up. But it's true that search also brings up entries that happen to contain someone else's name, so yes, it isn't specifically an author search. I just tried that (which name ?? - Gay, Jacqueline, Landman, Hyperactive - all get 0 hits) I'm sure there were other issues with the new version of RevOnline, but I can't log in to try it out properly. I'm not sure why, but a note to support should fix it. No need - the "automatic password reset" has succeeded. Now I need to find a stack worth uploading :-) -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
On 10/10/10 4:47 PM, Alex Tweedly wrote: On 10/10/2010 19:16, J. Landman Gay wrote: I think the best repository would be the one provided by RunRev -- RevOnline. Everyone has access to that and sharing stacks and code is its main intention. That may be its main intention- but it does a pitifully poor job of it. It currently has 225 entries, in about 90 categories (I guess they're tags, not categories, I think). Which tag would I use to find, say, Scott's scrolling list ? (OK, I'd start with "Awesome", but after that, I'm not sure :-) "Mobile" I guess. Or "Rossi". Only I don't think he's uploaded anything there yet. Why they had to remove the old RevOnline feature of allowing us to search by author is totally beyond me. I just typed my name in there and all my stuff came up. But it's true that search also brings up entries that happen to contain someone else's name, so yes, it isn't specifically an author search. Why they didn't preset the list of categories is a mystery. Yeah. I wish they had. Or at least alphabetize the tag list. I'm sure there were other issues with the new version of RevOnline, but I can't log in to try it out properly. I'm not sure why, but a note to support should fix it. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
On 10/10/2010 19:16, J. Landman Gay wrote: I think the best repository would be the one provided by RunRev -- RevOnline. Everyone has access to that and sharing stacks and code is its main intention. That may be its main intention- but it does a pitifully poor job of it. It currently has 225 entries, in about 90 categories (I guess they're tags, not categories, I think). Which tag would I use to find, say, Scott's scrolling list ? (OK, I'd start with "Awesome", but after that, I'm not sure :-) Why they had to remove the old RevOnline feature of allowing us to search by author is totally beyond me. Why they didn't preset the list of categories is a mystery. I'm sure there were other issues with the new version of RevOnline, but I can't log in to try it out properly. Maybe LiveCodeOnline will be better. -- Alex. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
>> How about a nice list control now, that bounces at the top and bottom? I >> think a lot of us could use one of those too. :) > > Scott Rossi made one in December of 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/msg127275.html > > It would be great if there were a central place for LiveCode developers to > store and share examples like these which are OS specific, or solves a > particular type of problem where notive controls do not yet exist. There will be. revObjective is the start. -- Monte Goulding M E R Goulding Software Development Bespoke application development for vertical markets InstallGadget - How to create an installer in 10 seconds revObjective - Making behavior scripts behave ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
Actually, I just tested Scott's list field as it is on an iPhone 3G. It scrolls very well and the momentum is also working very well. The alternating colors don't show up. I guess I have to look harder at his momentum algorithm, it is by far better than mine. regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-slotmachine-iPhone-was-scrolling-wheel-tp2969862p2970601.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
Jacque and all the people that liked the slot machine thank you. >From the logs I see that a lot of members of the list downloaded the examples. This I think this is a sign that many are interested in the RevMobile Thing. As far as Scott Rossis stack momentum scroll is concerned: I too admire his approach and had a hard look at it before I ventured on the slot machine. As a matter of fact during the design of the interface I thought of Scott: how would he have done it, and: Scott would see right away the subtleties and can pull some graphic trick to mimic them. But I think it is too early to have libraries for RevMobile. Or put another way if libraries they would have to be tested on the actual devices because RevMobile behaves differently on the devices than in the IDE or the simulator. Once RevMobile stabiiizes as far as features and speed is concerned one could start to make libraries. RevMobile is currently prealpha 10. And for prealpha it works amazingly well. The slot machine has an endlessly scrolling field but does not leave the boundaries of the field. I did see no easy way to work that into Scott's library/behavior. Or the list field for the iPhone. It requires not only momentum but also to deselect when scrolling and select when touching it. Hard to write a generic library for momentum and incorporate all the different iPhone controls into that. At present I prefer to write different scripts for different type of controls. I have to tweak them for them to work on an iPhone 3G and an iPad with trade offs on both. And I am still experimenting with all this as I guess everybody who uses RevMobile does. Regarding RevOnline: I also think it is the best place to put working examples for RevMobile. best regards Bernd Niggemann -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-slotmachine-iPhone-was-scrolling-wheel-tp2969862p2970576.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
On 10/10/10 9:53 AM, roger.e.el...@sealedair.com wrote: On 10/10/2010 at 01:53 AM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: How about a nice list control now, that bounces at the top and bottom? I think a lot of us could use one of those too. :) Scott Rossi made one in December of 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/msg127275.html It would be great if there were a central place for LiveCode developers to store and share examples like these which are OS specific, or solves a particular type of problem where notive controls do not yet exist. Agreed. Scott's scrolling list is perfect. (Thanks Scott! Very nice job.) I think the best repository would be the one provided by RunRev -- RevOnline. Everyone has access to that and sharing stacks and code is its main intention. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
YES !!! Le 10 oct. 2010 à 16:53, roger.e.el...@sealedair.com a écrit : > On 10/10/2010 at 01:53 AM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: >> >> How about a nice list control now, that bounces at the top and bottom? I >> think a lot of us could use one of those too. :) > > Scott Rossi made one in December of 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/msg127275.html > > It would be great if there were a central place for LiveCode developers to > store and share examples like these which are OS specific, or solves a > particular type of problem where notive controls do not yet exist. > > ~Roger Eller > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
On 10/10/2010 at 01:53 AM, "J. Landman Gay" wrote: > > How about a nice list control now, that bounces at the top and bottom? I > think a lot of us could use one of those too. :) Scott Rossi made one in December of 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/use-revolution@lists.runrev.com/msg127275.html It would be great if there were a central place for LiveCode developers to store and share examples like these which are OS specific, or solves a particular type of problem where notive controls do not yet exist. ~Roger Eller ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] scroll wheel object for RevMobile iPhone made with Rev
Hello Bernd, Very impressive !! Thank you René Le 8 oct. 2010 à 13:12, Klaus on-rev a écrit : > Hi Bernd, > >> Hi Klaus, >> >> sorry for that: Phil is right the correct address is >> http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollwheelstack/scrollWheeliPhone.rev.zip > > thank you very much! > >> (when testing the link I had to correct it in the browser, forgot to copy it >> back to the text) >> oh well. > > :-) > >> regards >> Bernd > > Best > > Klaus > > -- > Klaus Major > http://www.major-k.de > kl...@major.on-rev.com > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
On 10/9/10 3:47 PM, BNig wrote: The whole point of the object I posted was to have a native Rev control for RevMobile. I decided to throw out the graphic effects, used only fields and graphics with gradients to fake the native control and then when everything is done natively in Rev, resizing text size/font etc before deploying to the iPhone/iPad the object now takes a screenshot of itself, places this image beneath the scrolling field and is ready to be deployed to the iOS devices: much better responsiveness. It's lovely, I've already tried using it in a project and it works very well. A little fast in the simulator, but you explained why. I haven't tried it on a real device yet. How about a nice list control now, that bounces at the top and bottom? I think a lot of us could use one of those too. :) -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
Many thanks for sharing and showing a practical way of designing efficient interfaces for revMobile. Food for thoughts.. now I have less excuse for not getting my hands on revMobile!! -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-slotmachine-iPhone-was-scrolling-wheel-tp2969862p2969981.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 10:47 PM, BNig wrote: > > Hi all, > I announced a scrolling wheel 2 days ago, complaining about the speed of the > RevMobile/iPhone combination for a slot machine /scrolling wheel. I looked > further into this and it turns out that RevMobile can quite well scroll text > fields, less so if there are graphics with gradients and almost not at all > if there are graphic effects. Since I used graphic effects to approximate > the native control that was not a good idea. > Over an image RevMobile can quite acceptably scroll a field. > The whole point of the object I posted was to have a native Rev control for > RevMobile. I decided to throw out the graphic effects, used only fields and > graphics with gradients to fake the native control and then when everything > is done natively in Rev, resizing text size/font etc before deploying to the > iPhone/iPad the object now takes a screenshot of itself, places this image > beneath the scrolling field and is ready to be deployed to the iOS devices: > much better responsiveness. > So although using an image still the native control over the object. > I posted these again here are the addresses (last time I had one link wrong, > sorry for that) > > Please watch out for line breaks > As a revlet > > http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/slotmachine/slotmachinerevlet/ > > as a zipped stack > > http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/slotmachine/slotmachinestack/slotmachineiphone.rev.zip > > > Oh, and I tried to mimick the light blue of the original in this version. > I think this version is a lot more useful than the older, allows for larger > objects, better scrolling on iPhone 3G and up. And I hope it resembles the > native control enough. > regards > Bernd > > -- Bernd, Really nice demonstration. Thanks for sharing. Regards, -- -Zryip TheSlug- wish you the best! 8) http://www.aslugontheroad.co.cc ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
Wayne, thank you very much. Of course on could also the 'slotmachine' in a regular Livecode stack. E.g as an animation for text or numbers. See the scrolling seconds example in the revlet. At present the speed for a desktop machine is a little high since I tried to compensate for the slower iOS devices. regards Bernd wayne durden wrote: > > Once again, Bernd, the revlet version works VERY WELL! Super fast and > even > more attractive than before. > > Very impressive and a really good job! > > Wayne -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-slotmachine-iPhone-was-scrolling-wheel-tp2969862p2969932.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
Once again, Bernd, the revlet version works VERY WELL! Super fast and even more attractive than before. Very impressive and a really good job! Wayne On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 4:47 PM, BNig wrote: > > Hi all, > I announced a scrolling wheel 2 days ago, complaining about the speed of > the > RevMobile/iPhone combination for a slot machine /scrolling wheel. I looked > further into this and it turns out that RevMobile can quite well scroll > text > fields, less so if there are graphics with gradients and almost not at all > if there are graphic effects. Since I used graphic effects to approximate > the native control that was not a good idea. > Over an image RevMobile can quite acceptably scroll a field. > The whole point of the object I posted was to have a native Rev control for > RevMobile. I decided to throw out the graphic effects, used only fields and > graphics with gradients to fake the native control and then when everything > is done natively in Rev, resizing text size/font etc before deploying to > the > iPhone/iPad the object now takes a screenshot of itself, places this image > beneath the scrolling field and is ready to be deployed to the iOS devices: > much better responsiveness. > So although using an image still the native control over the object. > I posted these again here are the addresses (last time I had one link > wrong, > sorry for that) > > Please watch out for line breaks > As a revlet > > http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/slotmachine/slotmachinerevlet/ > > as a zipped stack > > > http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/slotmachine/slotmachinestack/slotmachineiphone.rev.zip > > > Oh, and I tried to mimick the light blue of the original in this version. > I think this version is a lot more useful than the older, allows for larger > objects, better scrolling on iPhone 3G and up. And I hope it resembles the > native control enough. > regards > Bernd > > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-slotmachine-iPhone-was-scrolling-wheel-tp2969862p2969862.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] slotmachine iPhone was scrolling wheel
Hi all, I announced a scrolling wheel 2 days ago, complaining about the speed of the RevMobile/iPhone combination for a slot machine /scrolling wheel. I looked further into this and it turns out that RevMobile can quite well scroll text fields, less so if there are graphics with gradients and almost not at all if there are graphic effects. Since I used graphic effects to approximate the native control that was not a good idea. Over an image RevMobile can quite acceptably scroll a field. The whole point of the object I posted was to have a native Rev control for RevMobile. I decided to throw out the graphic effects, used only fields and graphics with gradients to fake the native control and then when everything is done natively in Rev, resizing text size/font etc before deploying to the iPhone/iPad the object now takes a screenshot of itself, places this image beneath the scrolling field and is ready to be deployed to the iOS devices: much better responsiveness. So although using an image still the native control over the object. I posted these again here are the addresses (last time I had one link wrong, sorry for that) Please watch out for line breaks As a revlet http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/slotmachine/slotmachinerevlet/ as a zipped stack http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/slotmachine/slotmachinestack/slotmachineiphone.rev.zip Oh, and I tried to mimick the light blue of the original in this version. I think this version is a lot more useful than the older, allows for larger objects, better scrolling on iPhone 3G and up. And I hope it resembles the native control enough. regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-slotmachine-iPhone-was-scrolling-wheel-tp2969862p2969862.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] scroll wheel object for RevMobile iPhone made with Rev
Hi Bernd, > Hi Klaus, > > sorry for that: Phil is right the correct address is > http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollwheelstack/scrollWheeliPhone.rev.zip thank you very much! > (when testing the link I had to correct it in the browser, forgot to copy it > back to the text) > oh well. :-) > regards > Bernd Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] scroll wheel object for RevMobile iPhone made with Rev
Ooh - nice! Terry... On 8/10/10 5:36 AM, "BNig" wrote: > > some time ago someone was looking for native iPhone controls for RevMobile. I > tried to emulate an iPhone scroll wheel through Rev objects that looks close > to the native scroll wheel. > The advantage of an Rev object is that it is all graphics and scalable. The > disadvantage that RevMobile and the iPhone are not the fastest. (small > scroll wheels work acceptably on an iPhone 3G, much better experience on an > iPad) > As a revlet look here: > http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollWheeliPhone/index.html > as a zipped stack here: > http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollwheelstack/scrollwheeliphon > e.rev.zip > > click and drag on the wheels, if at first not responsive click outside the > revlet and than inside again. > Comments welcome > regards > Bernd -- Dr Terry Judd | Senior Lecturer in Medical Education Medical Education Unit Melbourne Medical School The University of Melbourne ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] scroll wheel object for RevMobile iPhone made with Rev
Hi Klaus, sorry for that: Phil is right the correct address is http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollwheelstack/scrollWheeliPhone.rev.zip (when testing the link I had to correct it in the browser, forgot to copy it back to the text) oh well. regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-scroll-wheel-object-for-RevMobile-iPhone-made-with-Rev-tp2967365p2967484.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] scroll wheel object for RevMobile iPhone made with Rev
Klaus - Try this (note caps in .zip file name): http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollwheelstack/scrollWheeliPhone.rev.zip I had the same problem so I went to the '/scrollwheelstack' directory and got the link from the file list. Phil Davis On 10/7/10 1:04 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote: Hi Bernd, some time ago someone was looking for native iPhone controls for RevMobile. I tried to emulate an iPhone scroll wheel through Rev objects that looks close to the native scroll wheel. The advantage of an Rev object is that it is all graphics and scalable. The disadvantage that RevMobile and the iPhone are not the fastest. (small scroll wheels work acceptably on an iPhone 3G, much better experience on an iPad) As a revlet look here: http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollWheeliPhone/index.html as a zipped stack here: http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollwheelstack/scrollwheeliphone.rev.zip I get a file not found error here? click and drag on the wheels, if at first not responsive click outside the revlet and than inside again. Comments welcome regards Bernd Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution -- Phil Davis PDS Labs Professional Software Development http://pdslabs.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] scroll wheel object for RevMobile iPhone made with Rev
Hi Bernd, > some time ago someone was looking for native iPhone controls for RevMobile. I > tried to emulate an iPhone scroll wheel through Rev objects that looks close > to the native scroll wheel. > The advantage of an Rev object is that it is all graphics and scalable. The > disadvantage that RevMobile and the iPhone are not the fastest. (small > scroll wheels work acceptably on an iPhone 3G, much better experience on an > iPad) > As a revlet look here: > http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollWheeliPhone/index.html > as a zipped stack here: > http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollwheelstack/scrollwheeliphone.rev.zip I get a file not found error here? > click and drag on the wheels, if at first not responsive click outside the > revlet and than inside again. > Comments welcome > regards > Bernd Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] scroll wheel object for RevMobile iPhone made with Rev
Thank you Jacque and Wayne. I hope it works as expected on the actual devices. Some things can be smoothed, not the speed though it is the fastest way I found. on the iPhone 3G the roundtrip between to two mousemoves including the setting of scroll and screen refresh is about 150 milliseconds (framerate of about 6.5), on an iPad around 50 milliseconds (framerate about 20). regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-scroll-wheel-object-for-RevMobile-iPhone-made-with-Rev-tp2967365p2967455.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] scroll wheel object for RevMobile iPhone made with Rev
Very Nice! Wayne On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:36 PM, BNig wrote: > > some time ago someone was looking for native iPhone controls for RevMobile. > I > tried to emulate an iPhone scroll wheel through Rev objects that looks > close > to the native scroll wheel. > The advantage of an Rev object is that it is all graphics and scalable. The > disadvantage that RevMobile and the iPhone are not the fastest. (small > scroll wheels work acceptably on an iPhone 3G, much better experience on an > iPad) > As a revlet look here: > http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollWheeliPhone/index.html > as a zipped stack here: > > http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollwheelstack/scrollwheeliphone.rev.zip > > click and drag on the wheels, if at first not responsive click outside the > revlet and than inside again. > Comments welcome > regards > Bernd > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-scroll-wheel-object-for-RevMobile-iPhone-made-with-Rev-tp2967365p2967365.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [ANN] scroll wheel object for RevMobile iPhone made with Rev
On 10/7/10 1:36 PM, BNig wrote: some time ago someone was looking for native iPhone controls for RevMobile. I tried to emulate an iPhone scroll wheel through Rev objects that looks close to the native scroll wheel. Wow. This is the best implementation I've seen yet. Thank you so much for sharing. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[ANN] scroll wheel object for RevMobile iPhone made with Rev
some time ago someone was looking for native iPhone controls for RevMobile. I tried to emulate an iPhone scroll wheel through Rev objects that looks close to the native scroll wheel. The advantage of an Rev object is that it is all graphics and scalable. The disadvantage that RevMobile and the iPhone are not the fastest. (small scroll wheels work acceptably on an iPhone 3G, much better experience on an iPad) As a revlet look here: http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollWheeliPhone/index.html as a zipped stack here: http://berndniggemann.on-rev.com/scrollwheel/scrollwheelstack/scrollwheeliphone.rev.zip click and drag on the wheels, if at first not responsive click outside the revlet and than inside again. Comments welcome regards Bernd -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/ANN-scroll-wheel-object-for-RevMobile-iPhone-made-with-Rev-tp2967365p2967365.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Valentina for iPhone
On 9/9/10 6:23 PM, "Lynn Fredricks" wrote: > BTW, if you have an active Valentina Server and also an Apple iPhone > Developer account, and would like to test the beta, I can get that set up. Actually developer account is not required. Only iphone ID. We want collect dozen vserver devs to give them beta. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin VP Engineering and New Technology Paradigma Software, Inc Valentina - Joining Worlds of Information http://www.paradigmasoft.com [I feel the need: the need for speed] ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: Valentina for iPhone
Hi Stephen, > Wasn't somebody asking about this recently? And it's FREE? > > http://www.valentina-db.com/en/products/ivalentina-for-iphone We haven't quite finished it yet, but its almost there. iValentina lets you work with Valentina Server, performing many functions of the desktop version, including server monitoring. Lots of screenshots and screen explanations are up already in the documentation section. This will work with both Valentina Office Server and also Valentina Embedded Server. If you deploy embedded server to your customers, its particularly nice because it lets you put server monitoring into your customer's hands at no added cost. This also shows the sort of things you can accomplish with the Valentina for iPhone client library. BTW, if you have an active Valentina Server and also an Apple iPhone Developer account, and would like to test the beta, I can get that set up. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Valentina for iPhone
WOW Wasn't somebody asking about this recently? And it's FREE? http://www.valentina-db.com/en/products/ivalentina-for-iphone -- Stephen Barncard San Francisco Ca. USA more about sqb <http://www.google.com/profiles/sbarncar> ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
[RevMobile] Rev workarounds for iPhone-specific interface differences
Hello List, I am hoping this starts a thread on solutions to Rev/iPhone interface differences. The first difference I've found -- and for which I'm hoping someone has a solution -- is the option button. Instead of a drop-down menu, on iPhone there appears a button inset with a tiny squarish symbol. When clicked, the screen disappears, the option-button's list of choices appears as a vertical array of borderless buttons, which, when clicked, perform the script but do not return you to the original screen. In contrast, looking at iPhone's "Settings" panel, for example, all choices are visible but they continue off-screen below and are reached by "flicking" down. Choices are in groups, but each choice is singly framed, and each frame shows an icon, a label and a ">". When clicked, the choice's frame-background goes blue, the entire "Settings" screen moves to the left, and a new window (card?) appears. To get back to the "Settings" window, there is a button at the top of that new window. Now, how would I do all that in Rev ^o^! Or, will future versions of RevMobile handle this and other such differences? Cheers. -- Nicolas Cueto ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
On 07/08/2010 01:22 PM, viktoras d. wrote: well, in my language gratuit = nemokamas, libre = laisvas (~4000 000 speakers only) and, as far as I know, in Russian (безплатный & свободный) you can not translate English word "free" without knowing the exact context it is used in because meanings of these two words never intersect. Strangely we still have prime between 2 and 4 ;-) Viktoras The Russians have had problems with the concept for freedom for many years . . . :) George Orwell knew all about that. However безплатни means that it costs no money, (от платено - paying) and свободен means unrestricted, as in свобода жена; a woman unfettered by the bonds of marriage or social convention. Just to make it "more fun" in Bulgarian there is a contrast between: свобода and свободия; the latter meaning completely unrestricted freedom without any sense of self-control. However: кой имат нещо за нищо ? това е най голяма шегата ! поздраве, Ричмънд Матюсън. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
well, in my language gratuit = nemokamas, libre = laisvas (~4000 000 speakers only) and, as far as I know, in Russian (безплатный & свободный) you can not translate English word "free" without knowing the exact context it is used in because meanings of these two words never intersect. Strangely we still have prime between 2 and 4 ;-) Viktoras Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Rene Micout wrote : In French we have 2 words for "free" free = gratuit (no money !) free = libre (open ?) ;-) Strange - In English we have the same possibilities ! We also have the prime number between two and four :>) "Etonnant - Non ?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBRospPh4JA Merci à Pierre Desproges -Francis "Nothing should ever be done for the first time !" ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
Absolument nécessaire ! :-) + :-) Le 8 juil. 2010 à 11:47, Francis Nugent Dixon a écrit : > "Etonnant - Non ?" > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBRospPh4JA > > Merci à Pierre Desproges ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
On 07/08/2010 12:47 PM, Francis Nugent Dixon wrote: Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Rene Micout wrote : In French we have 2 words for "free" free = gratuit (no money !) free = libre (open ?) ;-) Strange - In English we have the same possibilities ! We also have the prime number between two and four :>) "Etonnant - Non ?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBRospPh4JA Merci à Pierre Desproges -Francis "Nothing should ever be done for the first time !" There are many parts of the world where there are several "prime numbers" between 2 and 4: certainly in Egypt I found that 'free' was used in the sense of "we'll make free with your money" and "we'll free you of your money" now as far as I can see that is at least 2 prime numbers . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
Hi from Beautiful Brittany, Rene Micout wrote : In French we have 2 words for "free" free = gratuit (no money !) free = libre (open ?) ;-) Strange - In English we have the same possibilities ! We also have the prime number between two and four :>) "Etonnant - Non ?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBRospPh4JA Merci à Pierre Desproges -Francis "Nothing should ever be done for the first time !" ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
LIbationator. Has connotations of religion, and forceful intoxication. Or conversly, to "Arnold the beer" means to terminate it with extreme prejudice. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote: > Hi Andre, > > Am 07.07.2010 um 20:04 schrieb Andre Garzia: > >> I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? > > Probably a libeerator :-) > > > Best > > Klaus > > -- > Klaus Major > http://www.major-k.de > kl...@major.on-rev.com > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
On Jul 7, 2010, at 1:10 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:28:01 AM, you wrote: In French we have 2 words for "free" free = gratuit (no money !) free = libre (open ?) ;-) Yes, in English as well: "The puppies are free" is quite ambiguous. But only as and adjective - as a verb this is not the case I always thought the New Hampshire state motto had a rather sinister subtext: "Live free or die!" (getting the double-entendre requires that you know that NH prides itself on having very low taxes, and thus very limited social services) -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
¡El mero Simon Bolivar de la Revolución escocés... en Brazil! On Jul 7, 2010, at 11:04 AM, Andre Garzia wrote: > I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
On 07/07/2010 09:28 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 10:40:56 AM, you wrote: Now, once one moves away from the free software model we are in different territory; and I don't think the 2 really overlap. Chris Anderson has some thought-provoking things to say about the concept of "free", including several use-case models where free makes sound profitable business sense in a free-market (no pun intended) (all right...actually I couldn't resist it) economy. https://www.amazon.com/Free-Future-Radical-Chris-Anderson/dp/1401322905 Well, as a free-market economy doesn't really exist anywhere (the successful players in the market bending over backwards to restrict competition) that is probably rather theoretical. A male tiger coming upon a female tiger with cubs, will kill the cubs so as to bring the female into oestrus so he can mate with her and secure his own genetic line. Mind you when I try to visualise the likes of Steve Jobs and Bill Gates as male tigers I split my sides laughing! ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
Richmond- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 10:40:56 AM, you wrote: > Now, once one moves away from the free software model we are in > different territory; > and I don't think the 2 really overlap. Chris Anderson has some thought-provoking things to say about the concept of "free", including several use-case models where free makes sound profitable business sense in a free-market (no pun intended) (all right...actually I couldn't resist it) economy. https://www.amazon.com/Free-Future-Radical-Chris-Anderson/dp/1401322905 -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
> > > > > I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? > > > > Probably a libeerator :-) > > > > > http://raoworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/facepalm.jpg > > ;-) > actually, I have a star trek costume exactly like that... will exercise my piccard facepalm look... > > Jeff M. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Klaus on-rev wrote: > Hi Andre, > > Am 07.07.2010 um 20:04 schrieb Andre Garzia: > > > I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? > > Probably a libeerator :-) > > http://raoworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/facepalm.jpg ;-) Jeff M. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hi Andre, Am 07.07.2010 um 20:04 schrieb Andre Garzia: > I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? Probably a libeerator :-) Best Klaus -- Klaus Major http://www.major-k.de kl...@major.on-rev.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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I've liberated beer before... what that makes me, a liberator? On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:16 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Mmm liberated beer. > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Mark Wieder > wrote: > > René- > > > > Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:28:01 AM, you wrote: > > > >> In French we have 2 words for "free" > >> free = gratuit (no money !) > >> free = libre (open ?) > >> ;-) > > > > Yes, in English as well: "The puppies are free" is quite ambiguous. > > But only as and adjective - as a verb this is not the case. You can't, > > for example, free beer, unless you're liberating it from its > > container and pouring a round for the room. > > > > -- > > -Mark Wieder > > mwie...@ahsoftware.net > > > > ___ > > use-revolution mailing list > > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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In America, they are kind of related. I "open" (libre) my wallet, see there's no money there, so whatever I get had better be "free" (gratuit). Bob On Jul 7, 2010, at 9:28 AM, René Micout wrote: > In French we have 2 words for "free" > free = gratuit (no money !) > free = libre (open ?) > ;-) > > Le 7 juil. 2010 à 18:20, Mark Wieder a écrit : > >> Richmond- >> >> Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:12:50 AM, you wrote: >> >>> I don't suppose one should expect TOO much for $49. >> >> Er... ... but aren't you the one who's always extolling the >> virtues of *free* software? >> >> -- >> -Mark Wieder >> mwie...@ahsoftware.net >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription >> preferences: >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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On 07/07/2010 07:20 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Richmond- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:12:50 AM, you wrote: I don't suppose one should expect TOO much for $49. Er.. but aren't you the one who's always extolling the virtues of *free* software? Yes; I do extoll the virtues of free software; and I have released some free software myself - it comes "as is". I was only able to release that because I do not depend on software sales for my bread and cheese. Now, once one moves away from the free software model we are in different territory; and I don't think the 2 really overlap. I will be releasing a commercial variant of my free software in mid to late August; mainly because the cost of bread and cheese is going up faster than my non-software income . . . :) And, to tell the truth, because I have had a 34 year fantasy that one day I might be a "real" computer programmer who lives off his work. If we examine RunRev; its model starts with a free version, revMedia, which is supported by 2 commercial variants of the same thing - it is marvellous insofar as everybody can "come to the table"; but those who want a glass of wine and a side-dish have to pay. As the glass of wine and so on is really considerably more than revMedia they have to pay quite a lot. Of course there is NO SUCH THING as free software; all people who write software have to eat; there are, however, various ways in which they can get their food. In my own case my 'free' software is 'paid for' by the parents who send their children to my EFL school (if only they knew . . .). As soon as I see software that is not 'free' (i.e. the end-user is expected to pay for something) I suspect that the programmer may be expecting to live fully or partly from software revenues. If that is so, and the cost of bread-and-cheese is anything like what it is in Bulgaria they are going to have to shift a lot of units at $49 a pop. OR; some people have done a "quick-n-dirty" to see if 'the fish will bite', and if so, they can invest considerably more time and effort in 'version 2' for which they will charge considerably more money. -- Pretentious or what? ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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> Yes, in English as well: "The puppies are free" is quite ambiguous. > But only as and adjective - as a verb this is not the case. > You can't, for example, free beer, unless you're liberating > it from its container and pouring a round for the room. The "free as in beer" description always bothered me - after all, it can only be used once ;-) Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Mmm liberated beer. On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:10 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > René- > > Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:28:01 AM, you wrote: > >> In French we have 2 words for "free" >> free = gratuit (no money !) >> free = libre (open ?) >> ;-) > > Yes, in English as well: "The puppies are free" is quite ambiguous. > But only as and adjective - as a verb this is not the case. You can't, > for example, free beer, unless you're liberating it from its > container and pouring a round for the room. > > -- > -Mark Wieder > mwie...@ahsoftware.net > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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René- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:28:01 AM, you wrote: > In French we have 2 words for "free" > free = gratuit (no money !) > free = libre (open ?) > ;-) Yes, in English as well: "The puppies are free" is quite ambiguous. But only as and adjective - as a verb this is not the case. You can't, for example, free beer, unless you're liberating it from its container and pouring a round for the room. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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In French we have 2 words for "free" free = gratuit (no money !) free = libre (open ?) ;-) Le 7 juil. 2010 à 18:20, Mark Wieder a écrit : > Richmond- > > Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:12:50 AM, you wrote: > >> I don't suppose one should expect TOO much for $49. > > Er... ... but aren't you the one who's always extolling the > virtues of *free* software? > > -- > -Mark Wieder > mwie...@ahsoftware.net > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Richmond- Wednesday, July 7, 2010, 9:12:50 AM, you wrote: > I don't suppose one should expect TOO much for $49. Er... ... but aren't you the one who's always extolling the virtues of *free* software? -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
On 07/07/2010 07:08 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: You program in C/C++ and it converts it to Objective-C and uploads it to the app store under the companies iphone dev license. From what I have read, the code it generates is very very sloppy and slow. I don't suppose one should expect TOO much for $49. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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You program in C/C++ and it converts it to Objective-C and uploads it to the app store under the companies iphone dev license. From what I have read, the code it generates is very very sloppy and slow. -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/New-Window-App-allows-programming-for-iPhone-tp2280996p2281129.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Hi, Clearly, DragonFireSDK didn't get approval from Apple. If you want to use your app on your iPhone, you have to upload it to a server, where it will be compiled with XCode. The website says you can distribute your app as if it were created on a Mac, but it isn't clear to me whether you can actually sell your app in the iTunes store (an "App Store" is mentioned). If DragonFireSDK had received approval, then the workaround and vague statements on the website wouldn't be necessary. I admire their courage :-) -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 Download the Installer Maker plugin for Runtime Revolution at http://qurl.tk/ce On 7 Jul 2010, at 15:38, charles61 wrote: I just came across a link to a new Windows program, DragonFireSDK, that allows Windows users to program for the iPhone without using Apple's SDK. I believe the program sells for $49. I went to the site last night but did not write down the details. I tried to go to the site a moment ago to confirm the price but I could not access it. I guess the site may be getting a lot of hits today! DragonFireSDK includes a cross-platform library and an iPhone simulator. The program uses C/C++ language. Here is the link: http://www.dragonfiresdk.com/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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It's been around since November at least, but information about it is *very* sparse. I'd be wary, myself. Ian On 7 Jul 2010, at 15:38, charles61 wrote: > > I just came across a link to a new Windows program, DragonFireSDK, that > allows Windows users to program for the iPhone without using Apple's SDK. I > believe the program sells for $49. I went to the site last night but did not > write down the details. I tried to go to the site a moment ago to confirm > the price but I could not access it. I guess the site may be getting a lot > of hits today! > DragonFireSDK includes a cross-platform library and an iPhone simulator. The > program uses C/C++ language. Here is the link: http://www.dragonfiresdk.com/ > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/New-Window-App-allows-programming-for-iPhone-tp2280996p2280996.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
New Window App allows programming for iPhone!
I just came across a link to a new Windows program, DragonFireSDK, that allows Windows users to program for the iPhone without using Apple's SDK. I believe the program sells for $49. I went to the site last night but did not write down the details. I tried to go to the site a moment ago to confirm the price but I could not access it. I guess the site may be getting a lot of hits today! DragonFireSDK includes a cross-platform library and an iPhone simulator. The program uses C/C++ language. Here is the link: http://www.dragonfiresdk.com/ -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/New-Window-App-allows-programming-for-iPhone-tp2280996p2280996.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rumours about Visual Basic for iPhone/iPad?
JosepM wrote: Here the post about, http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/28/source-microsoft-bing-taking-over-iphone-search/ I read in spanish from this.. http://www.applesfera.com/apple/steve-ballmer-no-participara-en-al-wwdc-2010-pero-no-se-descartan-sorpresas Interesting stuff. I like some things about Bing, but I find it gives disproportionate weight to keywords in the domain, and less weight to inbound links to determine relevance as Google does. The result is that my Rev pages score much lower in Bing, and it's difficult to move them up without using RunRev's registered trademark in my domain names. Until Bing enhances their engine to include some of the many more variables Google uses, I suspect iPhone users will have a reaction that ranges from nil to disappointed, with very few feeling really great about the switch. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: Rumours about Visual Basic for iPhone/iPad?
Here the post about, http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/28/source-microsoft-bing-taking-over-iphone-search/ I read in spanish from this.. http://www.applesfera.com/apple/steve-ballmer-no-participara-en-al-wwdc-2010-pero-no-se-descartan-sorpresas ... :/ Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Rumours-about-Visual-Basic-for-iPhone-iPad-tp2237664p2237688.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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JosepM wrote: Just now I finish to read one rumour about something Visual Basic for iPhone/iPad, some join venture between Micro$oft and Apple versus Adobe and Google, with Bing in front of Google and Visual Basic suite to stop Adobe plans. I'm worried... No worries - Colin found an an article which he linked to here a couple days ago debunking the rumor: <http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/05/27/wild.rumor.of.ballmer.at.wwdc.triggers.talk/> -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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Urban legend, already debunked on this list. On 31 May 2010 10:44, JosepM wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > Just now I finish to read one rumour about something Visual Basic for > iPhone/iPad, some join venture between Micro$oft and Apple versus Adobe and > Google, with Bing in front of Google and Visual Basic suite to stop Adobe > plans. > I'm worried... > > > Salut, > Josep > -- > View this message in context: > http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Rumours-about-Visual-Basic-for-iPhone-iPad-tp2237664p2237664.html > Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Rumours about Visual Basic for iPhone/iPad?
Hi Folks, Just now I finish to read one rumour about something Visual Basic for iPhone/iPad, some join venture between Micro$oft and Apple versus Adobe and Google, with Bing in front of Google and Visual Basic suite to stop Adobe plans. I'm worried... Salut, Josep -- View this message in context: http://runtime-revolution.278305.n4.nabble.com/Rumours-about-Visual-Basic-for-iPhone-iPad-tp2237664p2237664.html Sent from the Revolution - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
Ahhh. Counter Intel. The plot gets thick as soup! Bob On May 28, 2010, at 7:51 AM, Lynn Fredricks wrote: >> Next step in this rumor: >> >> http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/05/27/wild.rumor.of.ba >> llmer.at.wwdc.triggers.talk/ > > This could be one of those "find a leak" rumors leaked out to find disloyal > employees. > > Best regards, > > Lynn Fredricks ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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> Next step in this rumor: > > http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/05/27/wild.rumor.of.ba > llmer.at.wwdc.triggers.talk/ This could be one of those "find a leak" rumors leaked out to find disloyal employees. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
Next step in this rumor: http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/05/27/wild.rumor.of.ballmer.at.wwdc.triggers.talk/ ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
I don't believe this for a minute. Here is a good analysis of why it won't happen. http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/05/27/reality-check-microsoft-rumored-at-show-at-apples-wwdc-2010/#more-4321 Bill Vlahos _ InfoWallet (http://www.infowallet.com) is about keeping your important life information with you, accessible, and secure. On May 26, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > The weird world gets weirder: > > > Microsoft's Steve Ballmer to Present During WWDC 2010 Keynote? > > Barrons reports that one analyst is predicting that Microsoft > CEO Steve Ballmer will be part of Steve Jobs' WWDC Keynote > presentation. > > According to Trip Chowdhry, an analyst with tiny Global Equities > Research, 7 minutes of Steve Jobs' keynote is allotted for > Microsoft. Microsoft will reportedly be talking about their > development tool Visual Studio 2010. The new version of Visual > Studio will reportedly allow developers to write native > applications for the iPhone, iPad and Mac OS. > > <http://www.macrumors.com/2010/05/26/microsofts-steve-ballmer-to-present-during-wwdc-2010-keynote/> > > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World > Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com > Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com > revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
damn... This clause has also excluded Pascal from the list of legitimate software development tools. http://wiki.freepascal.org/iPhone/iPod_development. Vik. Bob Sneidar wrote: I quote: "At present, developers may only create iPhone and Mac OS applications from within Apple's own Xcode development suite which only runs on Macs." That is not strictly true. You can use any environment whose native language is either Javascript, ObjectiveC or C++. I am not sure there IS another environment that fits those restrictions, but technically if there were, you could. Bob On May 26, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: The weird world gets weirder: Microsoft's Steve Ballmer to Present During WWDC 2010 Keynote? Barrons reports that one analyst is predicting that Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer will be part of Steve Jobs' WWDC Keynote presentation. According to Trip Chowdhry, an analyst with tiny Global Equities Research, 7 minutes of Steve Jobs' keynote is allotted for Microsoft. Microsoft will reportedly be talking about their development tool Visual Studio 2010. The new version of Visual Studio will reportedly allow developers to write native applications for the iPhone, iPad and Mac OS. <http://www.macrumors.com/2010/05/26/microsofts-steve-ballmer-to-present-during-wwdc-2010-keynote/> -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
> http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/05/27/microsoft-steve-ballmer > -will-not-be-speaking-at-wwdc/ No monkey-boy dance for iPhone developers... Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
Jeff Massung wrote: UGH! Please, prefix posts like this with **SPOILER ALERT**. My entire day was just ruined! ;-) Jeff M. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Wait! I thought Santa and the Easter Bunny were merely different spacial manifestations of the same alien? Bob We won't even mention the Tooth Fairy then. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
UGH! Please, prefix posts like this with **SPOILER ALERT**. My entire day was just ruined! ;-) Jeff M. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Wait! I thought Santa and the Easter Bunny were merely different spacial > manifestations of the same alien? > > Bob > > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
Wait! I thought Santa and the Easter Bunny were merely different spacial manifestations of the same alien? Bob On May 27, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Tuviah Snyder wrote: > But maybe I'm wrong and ballmer really wants to see if Bill has the guts to > fire him. I should start a blog and say Santa and the easter bunny will be > at WWDC and see if that gets me on slashdot. > > best, > Tuviah ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
I quote: "At present, developers may only create iPhone and Mac OS applications from within Apple's own Xcode development suite which only runs on Macs." That is not strictly true. You can use any environment whose native language is either Javascript, ObjectiveC or C++. I am not sure there IS another environment that fits those restrictions, but technically if there were, you could. Bob On May 26, 2010, at 8:56 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > The weird world gets weirder: > > > Microsoft's Steve Ballmer to Present During WWDC 2010 Keynote? > > Barrons reports that one analyst is predicting that Microsoft > CEO Steve Ballmer will be part of Steve Jobs' WWDC Keynote > presentation. > > According to Trip Chowdhry, an analyst with tiny Global Equities > Research, 7 minutes of Steve Jobs' keynote is allotted for > Microsoft. Microsoft will reportedly be talking about their > development tool Visual Studio 2010. The new version of Visual > Studio will reportedly allow developers to write native > applications for the iPhone, iPad and Mac OS. > > <http://www.macrumors.com/2010/05/26/microsofts-steve-ballmer-to-present-during-wwdc-2010-keynote/> > > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World > Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com > Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com > revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
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http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/05/27/microsoft-steve-ballmer-will-not-be-speaking-at-wwdc/ On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Tuviah Snyder wrote: > I'll bet 500 dollars this won't happen. > > As a long time professional windows and mac developer I'm infuriated by > these nonsense posts and hypothetical scenerios. > > Its not true because > > 1. VS2010 is already released. It was in beta for many many months and then > delayed. MS doesn't just surprise developers with one more thing. > > 2. Do you have any freaking idea of the work it would take to get > objective-c and cocoa working in vs. And then MS will have to constantly > update with any Apple change. > > 3. MS is pushing managed languages. > > 4. how would you test an app..I'm sure MS wants to encourage developers to > buy Macs and iphones > > 5. why would MS spend all that effort trying to kick windows and windows > mobile 7 in the nuts. Wasn't vista and windows mobile bad enough. > > 6. No one seems to be paying attention to what steve says. A clear No means > no. He hates cross platform compilers. So if your dreaming of ways this > could be true that also means no silverlight. > > But maybe I'm wrong and ballmer really wants to see if Bill has the guts to > fire him. I should start a blog and say Santa and the easter bunny will be > at WWDC and see if that gets me on slashdot. > > best, > Tuviah > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Microsoft's Steve Ballmer to Present During WWDC 2010 Keynote? >> > > >> > > Barrons reports that one analyst is predicting that Microsoft >> > > CEO Steve Ballmer will be part of Steve Jobs' WWDC Keynote >> > > presentation. >> > > >> > > According to Trip Chowdhry, an analyst with tiny Global Equities >> > > Research, 7 minutes of Steve Jobs' keynote is allotted for >> > > Microsoft. Microsoft will reportedly be talking about their >> > > development tool Visual Studio 2010. The new version of Visual >> > > Studio will reportedly allow developers to write native >> > > applications for the iPhone, iPad and Mac OS. >> > > >> > > < >> > >> http://www.macrumors.com/2010/05/26/microsofts-steve-ballmer-to-present-during-wwdc-2010-keynote/ >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > Richard Gaskin >> > > Fourth World >> > > Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com >> > > Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com >> > > revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv >> > > ___ >> > > use-revolution mailing list >> > > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> > subscription preferences: >> > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > Pierre Sahores >> > mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 >> > >> > www.wrds.com >> > www.sahores-conseil.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > use-revolution mailing list >> > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your >> > subscription preferences: >> > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> - >> Stephen Barncard >> San Francisco >> >> >> ___ >> use-revolution mailing list >> use-revolution@lists.runrev.com >> http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution >> > > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
On May 27, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Tuviah Snyder wrote: > I'll bet 500 dollars this won't happen. It appears that Microsoft agrees with you: http://twitter.com/Microsoft/status/14850981422 ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
On May 27, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Tuviah Snyder wrote: > 1. VS2010 is already released. It was in beta for many many months and then > delayed. MS doesn't just surprise developers with one more thing. > You must be referring to the Windows version. I think a VS for Mac would be popular. > 2. Do you have any freaking idea of the work it would take to get > objective-c and cocoa working in vs. And then MS will have to constantly > update with any Apple change. C and C++ are permitted, so they could publish to iPhone without needing to use Objective-C. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
I'll bet 500 dollars this won't happen. As a long time professional windows and mac developer I'm infuriated by these nonsense posts and hypothetical scenerios. Its not true because 1. VS2010 is already released. It was in beta for many many months and then delayed. MS doesn't just surprise developers with one more thing. 2. Do you have any freaking idea of the work it would take to get objective-c and cocoa working in vs. And then MS will have to constantly update with any Apple change. 3. MS is pushing managed languages. 4. how would you test an app..I'm sure MS wants to encourage developers to buy Macs and iphones 5. why would MS spend all that effort trying to kick windows and windows mobile 7 in the nuts. Wasn't vista and windows mobile bad enough. 6. No one seems to be paying attention to what steve says. A clear No means no. He hates cross platform compilers. So if your dreaming of ways this could be true that also means no silverlight. But maybe I'm wrong and ballmer really wants to see if Bill has the guts to fire him. I should start a blog and say Santa and the easter bunny will be at WWDC and see if that gets me on slashdot. best, Tuviah > > > > > > > > > Microsoft's Steve Ballmer to Present During WWDC 2010 Keynote? > > > > > > Barrons reports that one analyst is predicting that Microsoft > > > CEO Steve Ballmer will be part of Steve Jobs' WWDC Keynote > > > presentation. > > > > > > According to Trip Chowdhry, an analyst with tiny Global Equities > > > Research, 7 minutes of Steve Jobs' keynote is allotted for > > > Microsoft. Microsoft will reportedly be talking about their > > > development tool Visual Studio 2010. The new version of Visual > > > Studio will reportedly allow developers to write native > > > applications for the iPhone, iPad and Mac OS. > > > > > > < > > > http://www.macrumors.com/2010/05/26/microsofts-steve-ballmer-to-present-during-wwdc-2010-keynote/ > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Richard Gaskin > > > Fourth World > > > Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com > > > Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com > > > revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv > > > ___ > > > use-revolution mailing list > > > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > > > > -- > > Pierre Sahores > > mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 > > > > www.wrds.com > > www.sahores-conseil.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > use-revolution mailing list > > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > > > -- > - > Stephen Barncard > San Francisco > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
I fell asleep reading my iPad the other night and woke up laying on half of it and I can definitely say it was not lumpy. It was flat and hard, and uncomfortable but not lumpy. This was probably due to the anti-lumpy app I had installed. Tom McGrath III Lazy River Software http://lazyriver.on-rev.com 3mcgr...@comcast.net On May 27, 2010, at 1:42 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > Or, maybe, the 2 Steves are in love; mind you, sharing a bed with an iPhone > and an iPad > could be a bit lumpy . . . :) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
On 27/05/2010 20:11, Lynn Fredricks wrote: <http://www.macrumors.com/2010/05/26/microsofts-steve-ballmer- to-present-during-wwdc-2010-keynote/> That is weird, and raises some interesting questions - Does this mean .net for Mac, iP*? Would this also provide additional food to a federal investigation? MS previously announced that Windows Phone 7 would only support MS tools and Silverlight. Or maybe this means Silverlight on iPhone? Does this mean MS employees no longer have to hide their iPhones in Redmond? ;-) Lets see, lining up: Apple Adobe Microsoft Google and guess who gets 'squished': we do, and, maybe so does the efforts of our favourite software developer to keep up with developments. Remember "Clash of the Titans"? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_the_Titans_(1981_film) ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
RE: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
> <http://www.macrumors.com/2010/05/26/microsofts-steve-ballmer- > to-present-during-wwdc-2010-keynote/> That is weird, and raises some interesting questions - Does this mean .net for Mac, iP*? Would this also provide additional food to a federal investigation? MS previously announced that Windows Phone 7 would only support MS tools and Silverlight. Or maybe this means Silverlight on iPhone? Does this mean MS employees no longer have to hide their iPhones in Redmond? ;-) Lets see, lining up: Apple Adobe Microsoft Google Best regards, Lynn Fredricks Mirye Software Publishing http://www.mirye.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
Dogs and Cats living together. Harumph. On 27 May 2010 09:48, Pierre Sahores wrote: > "Pourquoi préférer les allumettes quand deux cailloux suffisent..." > > Apple = Microsoft = Crânes d'Huitres ;-/ > > Best, Pierre > > Le 27 mai 2010 à 05:56, Richard Gaskin a écrit : > > > The weird world gets weirder: > > > > > > Microsoft's Steve Ballmer to Present During WWDC 2010 Keynote? > > > > Barrons reports that one analyst is predicting that Microsoft > > CEO Steve Ballmer will be part of Steve Jobs' WWDC Keynote > > presentation. > > > > According to Trip Chowdhry, an analyst with tiny Global Equities > > Research, 7 minutes of Steve Jobs' keynote is allotted for > > Microsoft. Microsoft will reportedly be talking about their > > development tool Visual Studio 2010. The new version of Visual > > Studio will reportedly allow developers to write native > > applications for the iPhone, iPad and Mac OS. > > > > < > http://www.macrumors.com/2010/05/26/microsofts-steve-ballmer-to-present-during-wwdc-2010-keynote/ > > > > > > > > -- > > Richard Gaskin > > Fourth World > > Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com > > Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com > > revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv > > ___ > > use-revolution mailing list > > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > > > > -- > Pierre Sahores > mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 > > www.wrds.com > www.sahores-conseil.com > > > > > > > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- - Stephen Barncard San Francisco ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
"Pourquoi préférer les allumettes quand deux cailloux suffisent..." Apple = Microsoft = Crânes d'Huitres ;-/ Best, Pierre Le 27 mai 2010 à 05:56, Richard Gaskin a écrit : > The weird world gets weirder: > > > Microsoft's Steve Ballmer to Present During WWDC 2010 Keynote? > > Barrons reports that one analyst is predicting that Microsoft > CEO Steve Ballmer will be part of Steve Jobs' WWDC Keynote > presentation. > > According to Trip Chowdhry, an analyst with tiny Global Equities > Research, 7 minutes of Steve Jobs' keynote is allotted for > Microsoft. Microsoft will reportedly be talking about their > development tool Visual Studio 2010. The new version of Visual > Studio will reportedly allow developers to write native > applications for the iPhone, iPad and Mac OS. > > <http://www.macrumors.com/2010/05/26/microsofts-steve-ballmer-to-present-during-wwdc-2010-keynote/> > > > -- > Richard Gaskin > Fourth World > Rev training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com > Webzine for Rev developers: http://www.revjournal.com > revJournal blog: http://revjournal.com/blog.irv > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription > preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- Pierre Sahores mobile : (33) 6 03 95 77 70 www.wrds.com www.sahores-conseil.com ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
I personally am betting on some sort of web technology a la ComponentOne's iPhone web product. Its inconceivable that Apple would shun flash but sign up for dot net which is just another virtualization technology that would threaten Apple control. Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
jim, The language is not the problem, the problem is the surrounding frameworks. creating a objective-c thing for VS is relativelly easy, the hard part is the Cocoa/CocoaTouch stuff. Now, if they reimplemented everything in VS making VS some kind of XCode alternative for windows user, then it is one thing, now, if they are doing the other way around and cross compiling from VS to iPhone App, then it is basically what RunRev was doing and that jobs said we can't... let us wait and see... I bet it is not that but they will offer some kind of iWork Mobile integration for office... On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Jim Kanter wrote: > Doesn't xCode already recognize C code? How difficult would it be for > MS to make VS2010 Objective-C capable? Probably not very. > ___ > use-revolution mailing list > use-revolution@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your > subscription preferences: > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution > -- http://www.andregarzia.com All We Do Is Code. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
Re: [OT] Microsoft to announce Visual Studio for iPhone OS?
Doesn't xCode already recognize C code? How difficult would it be for MS to make VS2010 Objective-C capable? Probably not very. ___ use-revolution mailing list use-revolution@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-revolution
