Re: Edit WebSite CMS For: CMS Web Site [CmsSite] only working with Firefox
From: "Jacques Le Roux" Hi André, I have seen also such problems but in other ways. For intance I worked for a client where they prefer to use fckeditor. So I used it in place of Dojo htmlarea It was not working well in Firefox but perfectly with Chrome (I always use last versions) :/ There was other issues with Chrome that were not with Chrome. were not with FF Jacques Often when I want a good arbiter I use Opera. But it does not fill all either :( The devils is in details and we opened the can of worms... Easier for user, worse for programmers... Not sure this will soften one day, too much in play behind... Jacques PS : today I'm more worried about that actually http://uclue.com/index.php?xq=724. Especially since I have seen something on TV about Google and Co plans about their data centers. Just a little effort () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org From: "André Herbst" Hi Jaques, I get this error from both my local installation (Linux) and from the demo server: https://demo.ofbiz.org/content/control/WebSiteCms?webSiteId=CmsSite When I under the Web Site CMS Nav click the "CMS Site Demo Home Page" link I get the error in IE and Opera and the RTE box is empty or completely missing when I afterwards click OK to the error box. I Have tested this with Opera and FF from a Suse Linux client and with IE8 from a Windows 7 client. With FF the text shows nicely in the RTE box on the lower part of the screen. -André On Thursday den 3. December 2009 13:03:59 Jacques Le Roux wrote: Ha, I see now, when you use https://localhost:58443/content/control/WebSiteCms?webSiteId=CmsSite and try to edit CMS Site Demo Page 1_1 you get this error message. But it's not blocking and as soons as you click on the error message, enter something in the decription and validate, the error does not occur anymore Another rejoicing delightful side effect of Ajax/javascript :D Jacques From: "Jacques Le Roux" > Hi André, > > Not sure what you did exactly, could you post the URL? And also the exact > sequence leading to this error. > > Using > https://localhost:8443/content/control/EditWebSite?webSiteId=CmsSite and > https://localhost:8443/content/control/UpdateWebSiteContent > and also > https://localhost:58443/content/control/WebSiteCms?webSiteId=CmsSite I > tried on Windows with last avialable version of FF (3.5.5), Opera, IE8 > and Chrome without issues > > Jacques > > From: "André Herbst" > >> Hi, >> >> I have tested this function on a local Linux server as well as on the >> demo site with the same result: >> >> >> An error occured loading editor! : XMLHttpTransport.watchInFlight Error: >> [Error: >> name: TypeError >> message: Statement on line 9856: Type mismatch (usually non-object value >> supplied where object required) >> stacktrace: n/a; see opera:config#UserPrefs|Exceptions Have Stacktrace >> ] >> >> The test included Opera 10, IE 8 and Firefor 3.5.3. Only Firefox is >> working. >> >>>From the log: >> >> 2009-12-03 08:41:50,269 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-4) [ >> ControlServlet.java:137:INFO ] [[[views] Request Begun, >> encoding=[UTF-8]- total:0.0,since last(Begin):0.0]] >> 2009-12-03 08:41:50,346 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-4) [ >> ConfigXMLReader.java:118:INFO ] controller loaded: 0.0010s, 18 requests, >> 14 views in >> file:/home/ah/ofbiz/framework/common/webcommon/WEB-INF/common-controller >>.xml 2009-12-03 08:41:50,355 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-4) [ >> ConfigXMLReader.java:118:INFO ] controller loaded: 0.0s, 5 requests, 2 >> views in >> file:/home/ah/ofbiz/applications/commonext/webapp/WEB-INF/controller.xml >> 2009-12-03 08:41:50,373 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-4) [ >> ConfigXMLReader.java:118:INFO ] controller loaded: 0.041s, 377 requests, >> 162 views in jndi:/0.0.0.0/content/WEB-INF/controller.xml >> 2009-12-03 08:41:50,375 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-4) [ >> Parameters.java:386:WARN ] Parameters: Invalid chunk ignored. >> 2009-12-03 08:41:50,381 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-4) [ >> RequestHandler.java:514:INFO ] [RequestHandler.doRequest]: Response is a >> chained request. sessionId=08C4629D0705FD71BAF50C3314C86D60.jvm1 >> 2009-12-03 08:41:50,382 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-4) [ >> RequestHandler.java:160:INFO ] [RequestHandler]: Chain in place: >> requestUri=main overrideViewUri=WebSiteCMSContent >> sessionId=08C4629D0705FD71BAF50C3314C86D60.jvm1 >> 2009-12-03 08:41:50,397 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-4) [ >> RequestHandler.java:733:INFO ] Rendering View [WebSiteCMSContent], >> sessionId=08C4629D0705FD71BAF50C3314C86D60.jvm1 >> 2009-12-03 08:41:50,577 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-4) [ >> ScreenFactory.java:128:INFO ] Got 11 screens in 0.025s from: >> file:/home/ah/ofbiz/applications/content/widget/WebSiteScreens.xml >> 2009-12-03 08:41:50,734 (http-0.0.0.0-8443-4) [ >> GenericEntity.java:420:WARN ] >> exception >> report -- >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Database type warning GenericEntity.set >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= In entity field [ContentAssoc.fromDate] set the value >> passed in >
Re: How to set permissions to all new users?
Thanks Jacques, I thought mario has user data available and whenever he loads the data he again needs to assign the same permission to that particular user. So suggest that way, I see ECA is better option whenever a user created. Mario, Please ignore my comment as Jacques already provided better way to handle. Jacques I will try to remember this and try to get better on which kind of help actually a subscriber needs. Thanks Again ! Rishi Solanki Enterprise Software Developer HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Jacques Le Roux < jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: > Hi Rishi, > I wonder if Mario is no looking for a dynamically way to give permissions > to each new registered user. > Did you intend to answer to this question ? > > Mario, > If it was your question and you don't find Rishi's answer a solution I > guess you have simply to use an ECA which will fires and give some > permission each time a new user is registered. I let you fill the > "details"... > > HTH > Jacques > > From: "Rishi Solanki" > > Hi Mario, >> Add its UserLoginSecurityGroup data and associate the permission you want. >> Once the data load and even you drop the DB instance it will loaded again >> on >> ant targets. >> This way you won't need to assign permission again and again to your user >> from party application. >> >> Rishi Solanki >> Enterprise Software Developer >> HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd. >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:19 PM, MarioF wrote: >> >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I want that the new registered users have always some permissions. How >>> can >>> I >>> do that without the admin has to set one by one in the party application? >>> >>> Thanks in advance. >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >>> >>> http://n4.nabble.com/How-to-set-permissions-to-all-new-users-tp948378p948378.html >>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> >> > >
Re: attribute of a action service
The service triggered by the SECA (in your case service1) can only use parameters in the trigerring service (in your case createPartyGroup) See for instance http://markmail.org/message/grj4lqpocrjandir (BTW any attempts Rashko ? ;o) And at large http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBTECH/Service+Engine+Guide#ServiceEngineGuide-ECAs Jacques () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org From: "zhiyongcui" I am wondering how to set the attributes of a eca's action service ?for example, I defined a service named service1 which has two attributes named attribute1 and attribute2. and this service as a action service of a seca service as below: How to set the value of service1 When I use the service createPartyGroup . -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/attribute-of-a-action-service-tp949513p949513.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: How to set permissions to all new users?
Thanks for all your valuable help Rishi! I'm not quite sure either of my answer, will see... Jacques () ascii ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org From: "Rishi Solanki" Thanks Jacques, I thought mario has user data available and whenever he loads the data he again needs to assign the same permission to that particular user. So suggest that way, I see ECA is better option whenever a user created. Mario, Please ignore my comment as Jacques already provided better way to handle. Jacques I will try to remember this and try to get better on which kind of help actually a subscriber needs. Thanks Again ! Rishi Solanki Enterprise Software Developer HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd. On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Jacques Le Roux < jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: Hi Rishi, I wonder if Mario is no looking for a dynamically way to give permissions to each new registered user. Did you intend to answer to this question ? Mario, If it was your question and you don't find Rishi's answer a solution I guess you have simply to use an ECA which will fires and give some permission each time a new user is registered. I let you fill the "details"... HTH Jacques From: "Rishi Solanki" Hi Mario, Add its UserLoginSecurityGroup data and associate the permission you want. Once the data load and even you drop the DB instance it will loaded again on ant targets. This way you won't need to assign permission again and again to your user from party application. Rishi Solanki Enterprise Software Developer HotWax Media Pvt. Ltd. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:19 PM, MarioF wrote: Hi all, I want that the new registered users have always some permissions. How can I do that without the admin has to set one by one in the party application? Thanks in advance. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/How-to-set-permissions-to-all-new-users-tp948378p948378.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: Questions about rental products and shipments
Cimbaili, The requirements you have are achievable in Ofbiz with some customization. The Products will have serialized inventory, this will allow you to track movement of exact item. First time shipment will not be issue, Problem is when you take it back in stock. The OOTB process to take item back in stock may not fit you needs. Ofbiz has set of tables modeled to track shipments (delivery and pickup) and UI is very flexible, may be too much. You may like to customize UI flow. Thanks and Regards Anil Patel HotWax Media Inc Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Cimballi wrote: > Hi, > > I try to use OFBiz for a rental business. > The goal is to rent products and provide a delivery-pickup service > with each order. > > I am facing two problems : > 1. Is it possible to have shipments with rental products ? > 2. Is there a way to represent these 2 shipments, delivery and pickup ? > > Thanks, > > Cimballi
Re: workeffort
Bob, Best place to start is The Data Model Resource Book Vol 1. Before you do anything with Workeffort component its very important. Workeffort component in itself may seem too generic, look at Manufacturing, Project, AssetMaint components and their documents. These two components use Workeffort to solve certain business problem. Nice thing is, you will be able to find some good documentation wiki or discussions on mailing list achieve. Thanks and Regards Anil Patel HotWax Media Inc Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" On Dec 3, 2009, at 5:46 AM, Bob.Bee wrote: > > Can U plz post some documents or provide url regarding the workeffort and its > functions > > Bob. > -- > View this message in context: > http://n4.nabble.com/workeffort-tp947539p947539.html > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Bug in demo 9.04 when adding COMPANY_VEHICLE to an order
Hi,
I was doing a test on the demo 9.04 server, I tried to create an order
with the COMPANY_VEHICLE product and here is what I get :
Company Vehicle
Company Vehicle.
COMPANY_VEHICLE
Your Price: US$0.00
Maximum Expression product.reservMaxPersons is undefined on line 345,
column 189 in component://order/webapp/ordermgr/entry/catalog/productdetail.ftl.
The problematic instruction: -- ==>
${product.reservMaxPersons} [on line 345, column 187 in
component://order/webapp/ordermgr/entry/catalog/productdetail.ftl]
-- Java backtrace for programmers: --
freemarker.core.InvalidReferenceException: Expression
product.reservMaxPersons is undefined on line 345, column 189 in
component://order/webapp/ordermgr/entry/catalog/productdetail.ftl. at
freemarker.core.TemplateObject.assertNonNull(TemplateObject.java:124)
at freemarker.core.Expression.getStringValue(Expression.java:118) at
freemarker.core.Expression.getStringValue(Expression.java:93) at
freemarker.core.DollarVariable.accept(DollarVariable.java:76) at
freemarker.core.Environment.visit(Environment.java:209) at
freemarker.core.MixedContent.accept(MixedContent.java:92) at
freemarker.core.Environment.visit(Environment.java:209) at
freemarker.core.ConditionalBlock.accept(ConditionalBlock.java:79) at
freemarker.core.Environment.visit(Environment.java:209) at
freemarker.core.MixedContent.accept(MixedContent.java:92) at
freemarker.core.Environment.visit(Environment.java:209) at
freemarker.core.ConditionalBlock.accept(ConditionalBlock.java:79) at
freemarker.core.Environment.visit(Environment.java:209) at
freemarker.core.MixedContent.accept(MixedContent.java:92) at
freemarker.core.Environment.visit(Environment.java:209) at
freemarker.core.Environment.process(Environment.java:189) at
org.ofbiz.base.util.template.FreeMarkerWorker.renderTemplate(FreeMarkerWorker.java:205)
at org.ofbiz.widget.screen.HtmlWidget.renderHtmlTemplate(HtmlWidget.java:201)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.HtmlWidget$HtmlTemplate.renderWidgetString(HtmlWidget.java:245)
at org.ofbiz.widget.screen.HtmlWidget.renderWidgetString(HtmlWidget.java:107)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$PlatformSpecific.renderWidgetString(ModelScreenWidget.java:976)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget.renderSubWidgetsString(ModelScreenWidget.java:138)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$Section.renderWidgetString(ModelScreenWidget.java:227)
at org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreen.renderScreenString(ModelScreen.java:393)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$IncludeScreen.renderWidgetString(ModelScreenWidget.java:552)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget.renderSubWidgetsString(ModelScreenWidget.java:138)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$Section.renderWidgetString(ModelScreenWidget.java:227)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget.renderSubWidgetsString(ModelScreenWidget.java:138)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$DecoratorSection.renderWidgetString(ModelScreenWidget.java:676)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$SectionsRenderer.render(ModelScreenWidget.java:167)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$DecoratorSectionInclude.renderWidgetString(ModelScreenWidget.java:706)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget.renderSubWidgetsString(ModelScreenWidget.java:138)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$Container.renderWidgetString(ModelScreenWidget.java:292)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget.renderSubWidgetsString(ModelScreenWidget.java:138)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$Container.renderWidgetString(ModelScreenWidget.java:292)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget.renderSubWidgetsString(ModelScreenWidget.java:138)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$Section.renderWidgetString(ModelScreenWidget.java:227)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget.renderSubWidgetsString(ModelScreenWidget.java:138)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$DecoratorSection.renderWidgetString(ModelScreenWidget.java:676)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$SectionsRenderer.render(ModelScreenWidget.java:167)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$DecoratorSectionInclude.renderWidgetString(ModelScreenWidget.java:706)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget.renderSubWidgetsString(ModelScreenWidget.java:138)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$Container.renderWidgetString(ModelScreenWidget.java:292)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget.renderSubWidgetsString(ModelScreenWidget.java:138)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$Container.renderWidgetString(ModelScreenWidget.java:292)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget.renderSubWidgetsString(ModelScreenWidget.java:138)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$Container.renderWidgetString(ModelScreenWidget.java:292)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget.renderSubWidgetsString(ModelScreenWidget.java:138)
at
org.ofbiz.widget.screen.ModelScreenWidget$Section.renderWi
Possible bug in demo data
Hi, Using demo 9.0, trying to create an order with BoatRowSimple and I got the following error message : Could not find a related Fixed Asset for the product: BoatRowSimple I look in webtools and there is no Fixed Asset for BoatRowSimple. In fact there is only 2 FixedAssetProduct, one for RoomStd and one for RoomLux. But there are more products of type ASSET_USAGE, should be a problem, no ? Cimballi
Re: Questions about rental products and shipments
Hey Anil ! Thanks for your answer. Here are some comments about my "researches" : - By default, OFBiz doens't reserve RENTAL_ORDER_ITEM and so cannot create a shipment with such an item. - I updated the OrderServices class to allow this reservation, and now it is working. - This solution is not perfect because now the inventory item is mark as delivered but in fact as it is a rental item, delivered is not a final state, the item will be taken back to the company. Also, maybe by updating the OrderServices class to allow reservation for RENTAL_ORDER_ITEM I broke some logic, I don't know. So, my next questions would be : - Does anybody use OFBiz to manage rental business, like renting DVDs ? And if so, which solution do they use ? - About the way OFBiz implements RENTAL_ORDER_ITEM, is there any reason to not allow inventory reservation for these items ? Thanks ! Cimballi On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Anil Patel wrote: > Cimbaili, > The requirements you have are achievable in Ofbiz with some customization. > The Products will have serialized inventory, this will allow you to track > movement of exact item. > > First time shipment will not be issue, Problem is when you take it back in > stock. The OOTB process to take item back in stock may not fit you needs. > > Ofbiz has set of tables modeled to track shipments (delivery and pickup) and > UI is very flexible, may be too much. You may like to customize UI flow. > > Thanks and Regards > Anil Patel > HotWax Media Inc > Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" > > On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Cimballi wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I try to use OFBiz for a rental business. >> The goal is to rent products and provide a delivery-pickup service >> with each order. >> >> I am facing two problems : >> 1. Is it possible to have shipments with rental products ? >> 2. Is there a way to represent these 2 shipments, delivery and pickup ? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Cimballi > >
Re: Dropdown menu in Ofbiz
You can even try the multiflex theme in the ecommerce application. More drop down menus there! -Bruno 2009/12/2 Erwan de FERRIERES : > > Le 02/12/2009 17:03, sac sha a écrit : >> >> Hi All >> >> I am developing a website using ofbiz. I will display my products there >> for >> the users to buy. I am able to bring the site up and running fine with the >> use of existing ecommerce module. >> >> All I now want is to add some drop down menus to my site displaying the >> product categories etc. Is there any inbuilt facility available in ofbiz >> to >> create drop down menus? > > You can look at the dropping crumbs and the bluelight themes, which contains > some dropdonw menus > >> >> Or I have to use my own concept like(AJAX or jquery) to produce the drop >> down sub menus? >> > > -- > Erwan >
Re: about using ofbiz as a platform
Should we try to write a "framework-only" feature proposal page like the one Scott has writted for "Saved Searches" http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Saved+Searches collecting all requirements from the mails? Having the path written could help volunteers to contribute in the right direction. -Bruno 2009/12/4 Christopher Snow : > That makes a lot of sense - thanks again Scott! > > Scott Gray wrote: >> That risk is run by anybody who gets the ball rolling on any new >> proposal, be it a contributor, committer or PMC member. Nobody is >> capable of pushing through substantial change without the approval of >> the community at large. >> >> The key for any amount of work is to collaborate with the community as >> much as possible, if something is large then just break it down and >> discuss each change piece by piece. An approach such as this >> substantially reduces the risk that any work done will be wasted and >> generally improves the overall design. >> >> Regards >> Scott >> >> On 4/12/2009, at 7:27 PM, chris snow wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Adrian, >>> >>> For a change that may be substantial, could this approach be quite risky >>> that a lot of time could be spent developing something that may not be >>> accepted? >>> >>> Many thanks, >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> Adrian Crum wrote: That is not how the open source community works. If anyone wants to see this move along, they need to make the desired changes to their local copy, create a patch, and submit it to Jira. As far as coordination is concerned, there is an "umbrella" Jira issue for this already. Just make new Jira issues sub-tasks of it. -Adrian Michael Xu (xudong) wrote: > hi, > > Like Bruno mentioned, this topic has been discussed over many > times. And > it > is time to take some actions. I really think one or more leaders > should > lead > the process. Otherwise, the discussion might be around for a long long > time. > > -- > Regards, > Michael Xu (xudong) > www.wizitsoft.com > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, chris snow > wrote: > >> Hi Bruno, >> >> I would like to help. Are you coordinating efforts? >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> Bruno Busco wrote: >>> Hi Michael, >>> the framework isolation and a framework-only installation is >>> definitely something the community as talken about many times. You >>> will find several conversations searching the mailing list. >>> >>> We will have it sooner or later and any help you could provide on >>> this >>> topic will be much appreciated. >>> >>> -Bruno >>> >>> 2009/11/24 Michael Xu (xudong) : hmm...I compared the article and the latest code from trunk. I don't think the diagram is consistent with codes. For example, from the diagram party doesn't depend on marketing; >> however, as I mentioned in previous email, party entity definition does use ContactListParty from marketing. -- Regards, Michael Xu (xudong) www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135 0135 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) wrote: > Just found an article about the dependency: > >> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies >> > > < >> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies >> >>> From > the component relationship diagram, it seems I have to include all > components under framework and application in my new > application. Is > it > correct? > > -- > Regards, > Michael Xu (xudong) > www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: > (86) >> 135 > 0135 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096 > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) < > dong...@wizitsoft.com> wrote: > >> hi all, >> >> I try to build a new application using ofbiz. Basically, I >> want to >> use >> the >> nice overall architect of ofbiz, theme mechanism and >> Party/Permission/SecurityGroup. However, I found it is very >> difficult >> to >> remove unnecessary components. >> >> For example, entitymodel.xml from applications/party >> uses ContactListParty, which is from marketing component. I think >> such >> dependency doesn't make much sense, as marketing is only an >> optional >> component but party is a must.
Re: Questions about rental products and shipments
I know there was some effort to implement Real Estate Rental long back. More recently there is other thread on list where people mention about what they have implemented as solution for Rental business. I have to admit, Its not available OOTB in shape you will like it. Also quick work around will not get you the solution that will last. If you have enough time, Please put your requirements on Apache Ofbiz wiki and send link to it on this list. If you lead the conversation appropriately there will be people who will help you model the system and to some extent help you implement as well. In my opinion, implementation of such system will require help of experienced ofbiz developer. Thanks and Regards Anil Patel HotWax Media Inc Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" On Dec 6, 2009, at 5:26 PM, Cimballi wrote: > Hey Anil ! > > Thanks for your answer. > > Here are some comments about my "researches" : > - By default, OFBiz doens't reserve RENTAL_ORDER_ITEM and so cannot > create a shipment with such an item. > - I updated the OrderServices class to allow this reservation, and now > it is working. > - This solution is not perfect because now the inventory item is mark > as delivered but in fact as it is a rental item, delivered is not a > final state, the item will be taken back to the company. Also, maybe > by updating the OrderServices class to allow reservation for > RENTAL_ORDER_ITEM I broke some logic, I don't know. > > So, my next questions would be : > - Does anybody use OFBiz to manage rental business, like renting DVDs > ? And if so, which solution do they use ? > - About the way OFBiz implements RENTAL_ORDER_ITEM, is there any > reason to not allow inventory reservation for these items ? > > Thanks ! > > Cimballi > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Anil Patel wrote: >> Cimbaili, >> The requirements you have are achievable in Ofbiz with some customization. >> The Products will have serialized inventory, this will allow you to track >> movement of exact item. >> >> First time shipment will not be issue, Problem is when you take it back in >> stock. The OOTB process to take item back in stock may not fit you needs. >> >> Ofbiz has set of tables modeled to track shipments (delivery and pickup) and >> UI is very flexible, may be too much. You may like to customize UI flow. >> >> Thanks and Regards >> Anil Patel >> HotWax Media Inc >> Find us on the web at www.hotwaxmedia.com or Google Keyword "ofbiz" >> >> On Dec 5, 2009, at 11:34 PM, Cimballi wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I try to use OFBiz for a rental business. >>> The goal is to rent products and provide a delivery-pickup service >>> with each order. >>> >>> I am facing two problems : >>> 1. Is it possible to have shipments with rental products ? >>> 2. Is there a way to represent these 2 shipments, delivery and pickup ? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Cimballi >> >>
Re: Questions about rental products and shipments
Hi Cimballi The current rental facilities within ofbiz are based on the rental of non movable objects like hotelrooms. These rooms are represented as fixed assets and a calendar is maintained if and how many are rented out. So the system does know if a fixed asset is available or not. The reason of using fixed assets is the possibility to have maintenance activities on these fixed assets which make them unavailable for renting. You could make an function on top of the fixed asset, registering if a fixed asset is picked up or not with a connection to the order. A screen for fixed assets expected to go out and a list of fixed assets expected to come in. sounds not too difficult? Regards, Hans On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 23:34 -0500, Cimballi wrote: > Hi, > > I try to use OFBiz for a rental business. > The goal is to rent products and provide a delivery-pickup service > with each order. > > I am facing two problems : > 1. Is it possible to have shipments with rental products ? > 2. Is there a way to represent these 2 shipments, delivery and pickup ? > > Thanks, > > Cimballi -- Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
Re: Questions about rental products and shipments
Hi Anil and Hans ! Thanks a lot for your contribution and let's continue this thread, maybe we will finish with detailed specs for new functionalities ! :-) So, I will first explain what we want to do. Our goal is to build a rental business, rental of "movable objects" like you said. These can be DVDs, books, computers, anything you can rent and which need shipping. Furthermore, we want to provide a delivery-pickup with the renting. It means we deliver the rented product to the customer, and when the rental period is finished, we go to pick up the product. I think that the functionalities are pretty simple to understand, let me know if there is something unclear. Now, here are some comments about what I've seen in OFBiz. As you said and as I discovered, the rental module of OFBiz has been designed for non-movable objects, or at least products you don't have to ship. There is also a shipment module, which, from my point of view, has been designed to handle standard one way shipment. So, here is what we miss : - The rental system seems to work for any kind of products but I have not sure it's necessary to create work items in all cases. I still don't understand well this notion of work item, I suppose it is to track the use of human resources. I think there should be a distinction between rental products which requires work items and rental products which do not. - About the duration of a rent, it seems to me that the duration precision level is the day, it should be possible to have a precision level of the hour, maybe less. - About the price of the rented product, for now the price is a base price pe time, then it is multiplied by the duration. It should be interesting to have a way to specify more complex prices. No concrete sample to provide here, I still have to think about it. - Have the shipment module work with rental items and service items. This one is a big change I think. For rental products, one change could be to associate an InventoryItem to the product and then use the exisitng functionalities. Not sure if it can work because in this case the item is not sold but rented, and maybe this specific state requires more changes in the current services. For service items, the goal is to handle the fact that when you sell a service, this service may require shipments (or at least movements, not sure if the word shipment is appropriate here). Thanks for your time ! Cimballi
Re: about using ofbiz as a platform
Sounds good to me! Bruno Busco wrote: Should we try to write a "framework-only" feature proposal page like the one Scott has writted for "Saved Searches" http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Saved+Searches collecting all requirements from the mails? Having the path written could help volunteers to contribute in the right direction. -Bruno 2009/12/4 Christopher Snow : That makes a lot of sense - thanks again Scott! Scott Gray wrote: That risk is run by anybody who gets the ball rolling on any new proposal, be it a contributor, committer or PMC member. Nobody is capable of pushing through substantial change without the approval of the community at large. The key for any amount of work is to collaborate with the community as much as possible, if something is large then just break it down and discuss each change piece by piece. An approach such as this substantially reduces the risk that any work done will be wasted and generally improves the overall design. Regards Scott On 4/12/2009, at 7:27 PM, chris snow wrote: Hi Adrian, For a change that may be substantial, could this approach be quite risky that a lot of time could be spent developing something that may not be accepted? Many thanks, Chris Adrian Crum wrote: That is not how the open source community works. If anyone wants to see this move along, they need to make the desired changes to their local copy, create a patch, and submit it to Jira. As far as coordination is concerned, there is an "umbrella" Jira issue for this already. Just make new Jira issues sub-tasks of it. -Adrian Michael Xu (xudong) wrote: hi, Like Bruno mentioned, this topic has been discussed over many times. And it is time to take some actions. I really think one or more leaders should lead the process. Otherwise, the discussion might be around for a long long time. -- Regards, Michael Xu (xudong) www.wizitsoft.com On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, chris snow wrote: Hi Bruno, I would like to help. Are you coordinating efforts? Many thanks, Chris Bruno Busco wrote: Hi Michael, the framework isolation and a framework-only installation is definitely something the community as talken about many times. You will find several conversations searching the mailing list. We will have it sooner or later and any help you could provide on this topic will be much appreciated. -Bruno 2009/11/24 Michael Xu (xudong) : hmm...I compared the article and the latest code from trunk. I don't think the diagram is consistent with codes. For example, from the diagram party doesn't depend on marketing; however, as I mentioned in previous email, party entity definition does use ContactListParty from marketing. -- Regards, Michael Xu (xudong) www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135 0135 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) wrote: Just found an article about the dependency: http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies < http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies From the component relationship diagram, it seems I have to include all components under framework and application in my new application. Is it correct? -- Regards, Michael Xu (xudong) www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86) 135 0135 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096 On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) < dong...@wizitsoft.com> wrote: hi all, I try to build a new application using ofbiz. Basically, I want to use the nice overall architect of ofbiz, theme mechanism and Party/Permission/SecurityGroup. However, I found it is very difficult to remove unnecessary components. For example, entitymodel.xml from applications/party uses ContactListParty, which is from marketing component. I think such dependency doesn't make much sense, as marketing is only an optional component but party is a must. What's the best practice for my case? Advices and clues will be very appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Regards, Michael Xu -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/about-using-ofbiz-as-a-platform-tp786778p933001.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- View this message in context: http://n4.nabble.com/about-using-ofbiz-as-a-platform-tp786778p948290.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Chris Snow - CEng MBCS CITP MBA (Tech Mgmt) (Open) CISSP Tel: 01453 890660 Mob: 07944 880950 Www: www.snowconsulting.co.uk -- Chris Snow - CEng MBCS CITP MBA (Tech Mgmt) (Open) CISSP Tel: 01453 89066
