Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Hi All Thanks very for your positive feedback on the work done so far. I think it’s time for us to move on to the next step which involves using this structure to put together a proposed design for the main page and site. The team working on this at the moment will be myself, Taher and Fernando. We may end up with several variations but I think once we have something visible to show the community, it will be easier for people to see what it could look like and understand how it could work. We will be sharing any proposed design (or designs) with the community for feedback and comments so please watch out for our progress updates. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672605.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Hi Pierre Thanks for the feedback. I was thinking that modules could be individual the manager applications themselves with their related features (e.g. Party Manager). I see the solutions part as how one or more applications could be used together to create an integrated solution around particular business flows. I would expect some cross linking between the two so we just need to see how it could work. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672604.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
That's great, looking forward :) Jacques Le 22/09/2015 10:12, Sharan-F a écrit : Hi All Thanks very for your positive feedback on the work done so far. I think it’s time for us to move on to the next step which involves using this structure to put together a proposed design for the main page and site. The team working on this at the moment will be myself, Taher and Fernando. We may end up with several variations but I think once we have something visible to show the community, it will be easier for people to see what it could look like and understand how it could work. We will be sharing any proposed design (or designs) with the community for feedback and comments so please watch out for our progress updates. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672605.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Thanks Sharan! I think we should now define the content of the main page. Then when the implementation will be done, I'm sure we will have to again change things here and there but that's quite a good start Jacques Le 19/09/2015 11:49, Sharan-F a écrit : Hi Everyone This is my latest update for the proposed website structure. I’ve removed the second level menus and added notes about included specific links. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Revised+Website+Structure+v2 I’ve adjusted the menu sequence based on feedback from Taher and others, and also completely removed ‘Solutions’ as a menu option since we can incorporate this within the home page itself. I hope that this latest revision will be acceptable to the community and we can start working towards reaching a consensus. As usual please let me have your comments and feedback. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672228.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
+1 Jacques Le 20/09/2015 04:46, Ron Wheeler a écrit : +1 On 19/09/2015 8:09 AM, Taher Alkhateeb wrote: Hi Sharan, Thank you again for the excellent work, the structure keeps getting better and better. I have a few more suggestions that are "nice to have": - I think it would still be better to remove or reduce the menu items such as those in news and users and make that part of the page design and here is why: - I think twitter feeds do not warrant their own full page. and I also don't see a lot of difference between blog and press. - you can create either a filter, a header, or a table to show users by industry and even other categories inside the page. - A lot of websites put lots of links into the footer area for lesser used links and as a form of secondary navigation. So we do not need to have everything that exists in the main menu necessarily. so overall I would suggest that we always follow a "less is more" philosophy and make new menu items where it is necessary and makes sense. With that being said, great job and I don't see a problem with going with this design immediately even without applying the above. Cheers, Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: "Sharan-F" <sharan.f...@gmail.com> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Saturday, 19 September, 2015 5:49:32 AM Subject: Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required Hi Everyone This is my latest update for the proposed website structure. I’ve removed the second level menus and added notes about included specific links. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Revised+Website+Structure+v2 I’ve adjusted the menu sequence based on feedback from Taher and others, and also completely removed ‘Solutions’ as a menu option since we can incorporate this within the home page itself. I hope that this latest revision will be acceptable to the community and we can start working towards reaching a consensus. As usual please let me have your comments and feedback. Thanks Sharan
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Le 19/09/2015 16:32, Todd Thorner a écrit : I agree that the Download option should be prominent, but also leave it in its current menu position. Offering surfers multiple ways to access the download page is a good thing. +1 Jacques
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
I am not sure that I see any advantage in dropdown menus in the footer. Once you have reached the bottom of the page on a web site it is pretty simple to scroll down further to see more links. You are in an area of unlimited length and I think that most sites just put some frequently referenced links there to save people the inconvenience of navigating the main menu through it's dropdown links. Ron On 19/09/2015 10:32 AM, Todd Thorner wrote: That's looking great, Sharan, thanks for the effort. Does anyone like the idea of having one of those slideshow things as a page header (right beneath the menu), sliding between images which showcase the various items from the Solutions group? I'm rather behind the site development curve, so I don't know how far into the architecture phase things are (e.g. Bootstrap or something similar?). I agree that the Download option should be prominent, but also leave it in its current menu position. Offering surfers multiple ways to access the download page is a good thing. If you want to cram a ton of additional links into the footer (as per Taher's latest suggestion), consider a drop-up menu which reflects the functionality (if not the content) of the main menu. On 15-09-19 02:49 AM, Sharan-F wrote: Hi Everyone This is my latest update for the proposed website structure. I’ve removed the second level menus and added notes about included specific links. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Revised+Website+Structure+v2 I’ve adjusted the menu sequence based on feedback from Taher and others, and also completely removed ‘Solutions’ as a menu option since we can incorporate this within the home page itself. I hope that this latest revision will be acceptable to the community and we can start working towards reaching a consensus. As usual please let me have your comments and feedback. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672228.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
+1 On 19/09/2015 8:09 AM, Taher Alkhateeb wrote: Hi Sharan, Thank you again for the excellent work, the structure keeps getting better and better. I have a few more suggestions that are "nice to have": - I think it would still be better to remove or reduce the menu items such as those in news and users and make that part of the page design and here is why: - I think twitter feeds do not warrant their own full page. and I also don't see a lot of difference between blog and press. - you can create either a filter, a header, or a table to show users by industry and even other categories inside the page. - A lot of websites put lots of links into the footer area for lesser used links and as a form of secondary navigation. So we do not need to have everything that exists in the main menu necessarily. so overall I would suggest that we always follow a "less is more" philosophy and make new menu items where it is necessary and makes sense. With that being said, great job and I don't see a problem with going with this design immediately even without applying the above. Cheers, Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: "Sharan-F" <sharan.f...@gmail.com> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Saturday, 19 September, 2015 5:49:32 AM Subject: Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required Hi Everyone This is my latest update for the proposed website structure. I’ve removed the second level menus and added notes about included specific links. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Revised+Website+Structure+v2 I’ve adjusted the menu sequence based on feedback from Taher and others, and also completely removed ‘Solutions’ as a menu option since we can incorporate this within the home page itself. I hope that this latest revision will be acceptable to the community and we can start working towards reaching a consensus. As usual please let me have your comments and feedback. Thanks Sharan -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Hi Everyone This is my latest update for the proposed website structure. I’ve removed the second level menus and added notes about included specific links. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Revised+Website+Structure+v2 I’ve adjusted the menu sequence based on feedback from Taher and others, and also completely removed ‘Solutions’ as a menu option since we can incorporate this within the home page itself. I hope that this latest revision will be acceptable to the community and we can start working towards reaching a consensus. As usual please let me have your comments and feedback. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672228.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Hi Sharan, It is looking good. But if I may suggest the following: - Download of the latest stable release should be on the front-page, because that is one of the main Items we want (potential) users to use. With a link directly below/beside that where other downloads can be found. What is the intended difference between the 'modules & Features' block and the Solutions block? It seems both are related, no? Best regards, Pierre Smits *OFBiz Extensions Marketplace* http://oem.ofbizci.net On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Sharan-F <sharan.f...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone > > This is my latest update for the proposed website structure. I’ve removed > the second level menus and added notes about included specific links. > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Revised+Website+Structure+v2 > > I’ve adjusted the menu sequence based on feedback from Taher and others, > and > also completely removed ‘Solutions’ as a menu option since we can > incorporate this within the home page itself. > > I hope that this latest revision will be acceptable to the community and we > can start working towards reaching a consensus. As usual please let me have > your comments and feedback. > > Thanks > Sharan > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672228.html > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Hi Sharan, Thank you again for the excellent work, the structure keeps getting better and better. I have a few more suggestions that are "nice to have": - I think it would still be better to remove or reduce the menu items such as those in news and users and make that part of the page design and here is why: - I think twitter feeds do not warrant their own full page. and I also don't see a lot of difference between blog and press. - you can create either a filter, a header, or a table to show users by industry and even other categories inside the page. - A lot of websites put lots of links into the footer area for lesser used links and as a form of secondary navigation. So we do not need to have everything that exists in the main menu necessarily. so overall I would suggest that we always follow a "less is more" philosophy and make new menu items where it is necessary and makes sense. With that being said, great job and I don't see a problem with going with this design immediately even without applying the above. Cheers, Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: "Sharan-F" <sharan.f...@gmail.com> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Saturday, 19 September, 2015 5:49:32 AM Subject: Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required Hi Everyone This is my latest update for the proposed website structure. I’ve removed the second level menus and added notes about included specific links. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Revised+Website+Structure+v2 I’ve adjusted the menu sequence based on feedback from Taher and others, and also completely removed ‘Solutions’ as a menu option since we can incorporate this within the home page itself. I hope that this latest revision will be acceptable to the community and we can start working towards reaching a consensus. As usual please let me have your comments and feedback. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672228.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
That's looking great, Sharan, thanks for the effort. Does anyone like the idea of having one of those slideshow things as a page header (right beneath the menu), sliding between images which showcase the various items from the Solutions group? I'm rather behind the site development curve, so I don't know how far into the architecture phase things are (e.g. Bootstrap or something similar?). I agree that the Download option should be prominent, but also leave it in its current menu position. Offering surfers multiple ways to access the download page is a good thing. If you want to cram a ton of additional links into the footer (as per Taher's latest suggestion), consider a drop-up menu which reflects the functionality (if not the content) of the main menu. On 15-09-19 02:49 AM, Sharan-F wrote: > Hi Everyone > > This is my latest update for the proposed website structure. I’ve removed > the second level menus and added notes about included specific links. > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Revised+Website+Structure+v2 > > I’ve adjusted the menu sequence based on feedback from Taher and others, and > also completely removed ‘Solutions’ as a menu option since we can > incorporate this within the home page itself. > > I hope that this latest revision will be acceptable to the community and we > can start working towards reaching a consensus. As usual please let me have > your comments and feedback. > > Thanks > Sharan > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672228.html > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Hi Fernando, maybe you forget to send your message on english language ? Can you translate it for all community members ;) [French] Sur le coup je me suis dis je suis tellement creuver que je lis l'anglais comme le français ... mais non en 4ème relecture c'est bien en français ;) [/french] Nicolas Le 17/09/2015 23:56, FGomez a écrit : Après le deuxième révision des commentaires (et dieu sait qu'il y en a...et en aura...) - le plan proposé est correct pour finaliser le site -- de plus chapeau pour son bon travail. Je suis en accord avec les commentaires de Taher... de plus le site devra etre dynamique afin de permettre d'apporter des changements dans le futur (avec ou sans l'aide du CMS de ofbiz..). En terminant, la valeur du contenu devrait permettre une adoption plus rapide (facile) du produit vs la compétition. En d'autres mots l'accès rapide aux documentation/video/guide ... Salutations Fernando Le 2015-09-17 02:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : Hi Le 16/09/2015 17:16, FGomez a écrit : Sharan, Your 2nd review with feedbacks (and there were many with such great community) is fine to get something done along the great work you do. I am in line with Taher suggestions of the top layout - hence the site will be dynamic to adapt to future changes and suggestions. Moreover, the content value shall be clearly exposed to allow the target audience to get a RAPID graps of the OOTB solution vs others alternative. Could you elaborate on that? Sorry it's not clear to me :) Thanks Jacques Regards, Fernando Le 2015-09-16 05:40, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit : Hi Sharan, I looked at the structure and have the following suggestions / comments: - on a second review, we have too many sub-menus. This can be overwhelming to people navigating the website. Instead, you might take the content of the sub-menus and sprinkle it around the pages - I suggest removing partners and making it part of the community menu. It does not add a lot of value to make it a top level menu item. - I would suggest reordering the menus to be -> getting started, news, solutions, documentation, community, customers - perhaps we can drop all menu items under solutions, and make that part of the text and layout of the page These are my thoughts for now. HTH Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: "Sharan-F" <sharan.f...@gmail.com> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 16 September, 2015 3:14:40 AM Subject: Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required Hi Everyone I’m still looking for some feedback on the revised website structure proposal. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+Website+Structure+Based+on+Combined+Feedback I was hoping to get some feedback in time to see if we could start doing some work on the Website update for the Community Day on Saturday. Thanks Sharan
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
OK, merci Fernando :) Jacques Le 17/09/2015 23:56, FGomez a écrit : Après le deuxième révision des commentaires (et dieu sait qu'il y en a...et en aura...) - le plan proposé est correct pour finaliser le site -- de plus chapeau pour son bon travail. Je suis en accord avec les commentaires de Taher... de plus le site devra etre dynamique afin de permettre d'apporter des changements dans le futur (avec ou sans l'aide du CMS de ofbiz..). En terminant, la valeur du contenu devrait permettre une adoption plus rapide (facile) du produit vs la compétition. En d'autres mots l'accès rapide aux documentation/video/guide ... Salutations Fernando Le 2015-09-17 02:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : Hi Le 16/09/2015 17:16, FGomez a écrit : Sharan, Your 2nd review with feedbacks (and there were many with such great community) is fine to get something done along the great work you do. I am in line with Taher suggestions of the top layout - hence the site will be dynamic to adapt to future changes and suggestions. Moreover, the content value shall be clearly exposed to allow the target audience to get a RAPID graps of the OOTB solution vs others alternative. Could you elaborate on that? Sorry it's not clear to me :) Thanks Jacques Regards, Fernando Le 2015-09-16 05:40, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit : Hi Sharan, I looked at the structure and have the following suggestions / comments: - on a second review, we have too many sub-menus. This can be overwhelming to people navigating the website. Instead, you might take the content of the sub-menus and sprinkle it around the pages - I suggest removing partners and making it part of the community menu. It does not add a lot of value to make it a top level menu item. - I would suggest reordering the menus to be -> getting started, news, solutions, documentation, community, customers - perhaps we can drop all menu items under solutions, and make that part of the text and layout of the page These are my thoughts for now. HTH Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: "Sharan-F" <sharan.f...@gmail.com> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 16 September, 2015 3:14:40 AM Subject: Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required Hi Everyone I’m still looking for some feedback on the revised website structure proposal. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+Website+Structure+Based+on+Combined+Feedback I was hoping to get some feedback in time to see if we could start doing some work on the Website update for the Community Day on Saturday. Thanks Sharan
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Le 18/09/2015 08:44, Nicolas Malin a écrit : [French] Sur le coup je me suis dis je suis tellement creuver que je lis l'anglais comme le français ... mais non en 4ème relecture c'est bien en français ;) [/french] Nicolas :D Jacques
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
+1 :-) Michael Brohl ecomify GmbH www.ecomify.de Am 17.09.15 um 08:37 schrieb Jacques Le Roux: Le 17/09/2015 08:33, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit : Thanks for the great effort Sharan. I think we should find better terms for "Customers" and "Patrners": theese two don't apply well to an open source project and community and are more suited for a company site. Users and Service Providers as we already use for "decades ;)" ? Jacques smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Hi Le 16/09/2015 17:16, FGomez a écrit : Sharan, Your 2nd review with feedbacks (and there were many with such great community) is fine to get something done along the great work you do. I am in line with Taher suggestions of the top layout - hence the site will be dynamic to adapt to future changes and suggestions. Moreover, the content value shall be clearly exposed to allow the target audience to get a RAPID graps of the OOTB solution vs others alternative. Could you elaborate on that? Sorry it's not clear to me :) Thanks Jacques Regards, Fernando Le 2015-09-16 05:40, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit : Hi Sharan, I looked at the structure and have the following suggestions / comments: - on a second review, we have too many sub-menus. This can be overwhelming to people navigating the website. Instead, you might take the content of the sub-menus and sprinkle it around the pages - I suggest removing partners and making it part of the community menu. It does not add a lot of value to make it a top level menu item. - I would suggest reordering the menus to be -> getting started, news, solutions, documentation, community, customers - perhaps we can drop all menu items under solutions, and make that part of the text and layout of the page These are my thoughts for now. HTH Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: "Sharan-F" <sharan.f...@gmail.com> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 16 September, 2015 3:14:40 AM Subject: Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required Hi Everyone I’m still looking for some feedback on the revised website structure proposal. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+Website+Structure+Based+on+Combined+Feedback I was hoping to get some feedback in time to see if we could start doing some work on the Website update for the Community Day on Saturday. Thanks Sharan
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Le 17/09/2015 08:33, Jacopo Cappellato a écrit : Thanks for the great effort Sharan. I think we should find better terms for "Customers" and "Patrners": theese two don't apply well to an open source project and community and are more suited for a company site. Users and Service Providers as we already use for "decades ;)" ? Jacques Jacopo On Sep 16, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Sharan-F <sharan.f...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Everyone I’m still looking for some feedback on the revised website structure proposal. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+Website+Structure+Based+on+Combined+Feedback I was hoping to get some feedback in time to see if we could start doing some work on the Website update for the Community Day on Saturday. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672069.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Hi Le 16/09/2015 11:40, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit : Hi Sharan, I looked at the structure and have the following suggestions / comments: - on a second review, we have too many sub-menus. This can be overwhelming to people navigating the website. Instead, you might take the content of the sub-menus and sprinkle it around the pages The old UI golden rule by Apple (before Windows with all "its" - sometimes creazy applications - existed) was that "you shall not have more than 3 levels menus". This to say that I tend to agree with Taher here. Thought I'm not sure Sharan's intention was to create 3rd level menus. Because I have never seen that on web pages (or I forgot), where you have only horizontal menus entries with each vertical sub-menus. Most of the times we indeed put what would be 3rd level menus as links into pages, this is something you can't easily do out of the HTML paradigm. - I suggest removing partners and making it part of the community menu. It does not add a lot of value to make it a top level menu item. +1, but then will need more redirections - I would suggest reordering the menus to be -> getting started, news, solutions, documentation, community, customers +0 - perhaps we can drop all menu items under solutions, and make that part of the text and layout of the page Moot point, but again the HTML paradigm allows for more solutions than 2nd level menus... It's all about creativity... I want to add that I'm all for Subscriptions and Reservations pages, good idea. We have already those pages for starting https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Subscription https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Proposal+for+Plane,+Bus,+Restaurant+and+Cinema+Seats The 2nd should be amended/completed HTH Jacques These are my thoughts for now. HTH Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: "Sharan-F" <sharan.f...@gmail.com> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 16 September, 2015 3:14:40 AM Subject: Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required Hi Everyone I’m still looking for some feedback on the revised website structure proposal. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+Website+Structure+Based+on+Combined+Feedback I was hoping to get some feedback in time to see if we could start doing some work on the Website update for the Community Day on Saturday. Thanks Sharan
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Thanks for the great effort Sharan. I think we should find better terms for "Customers" and "Patrners": theese two don't apply well to an open source project and community and are more suited for a company site. Jacopo On Sep 16, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Sharan-F <sharan.f...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone > > I’m still looking for some feedback on the revised website structure > proposal. > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+Website+Structure+Based+on+Combined+Feedback > > I was hoping to get some feedback in time to see if we could start doing > some work on the Website update for the Community Day on Saturday. > > Thanks > Sharan > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672069.html > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Hi Everyone Thanks for your additional feedback and I also agree with a lot of the comments made. By trying to incorporate all the previous feedback I think I've made the structure more complicated than it needs to be. I will update the latest proposed version with this feedback and hopefully streamline it again. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672098.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Après le deuxième révision des commentaires (et dieu sait qu'il y en a...et en aura...) - le plan proposé est correct pour finaliser le site -- de plus chapeau pour son bon travail. Je suis en accord avec les commentaires de Taher... de plus le site devra etre dynamique afin de permettre d'apporter des changements dans le futur (avec ou sans l'aide du CMS de ofbiz..). En terminant, la valeur du contenu devrait permettre une adoption plus rapide (facile) du produit vs la compétition. En d'autres mots l'accès rapide aux documentation/video/guide ... Salutations Fernando Le 2015-09-17 02:21, Jacques Le Roux a écrit : Hi Le 16/09/2015 17:16, FGomez a écrit : Sharan, Your 2nd review with feedbacks (and there were many with such great community) is fine to get something done along the great work you do. I am in line with Taher suggestions of the top layout - hence the site will be dynamic to adapt to future changes and suggestions. Moreover, the content value shall be clearly exposed to allow the target audience to get a RAPID graps of the OOTB solution vs others alternative. Could you elaborate on that? Sorry it's not clear to me :) Thanks Jacques Regards, Fernando Le 2015-09-16 05:40, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit : Hi Sharan, I looked at the structure and have the following suggestions / comments: - on a second review, we have too many sub-menus. This can be overwhelming to people navigating the website. Instead, you might take the content of the sub-menus and sprinkle it around the pages - I suggest removing partners and making it part of the community menu. It does not add a lot of value to make it a top level menu item. - I would suggest reordering the menus to be -> getting started, news, solutions, documentation, community, customers - perhaps we can drop all menu items under solutions, and make that part of the text and layout of the page These are my thoughts for now. HTH Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: "Sharan-F" <sharan.f...@gmail.com> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 16 September, 2015 3:14:40 AM Subject: Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required Hi Everyone I’m still looking for some feedback on the revised website structure proposal. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+Website+Structure+Based+on+Combined+Feedback I was hoping to get some feedback in time to see if we could start doing some work on the Website update for the Community Day on Saturday. Thanks Sharan
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Hi Everyone I’m still looking for some feedback on the revised website structure proposal. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+Website+Structure+Based+on+Combined+Feedback I was hoping to get some feedback in time to see if we could start doing some work on the Website update for the Community Day on Saturday. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672069.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Hi Sharan, many thanks for your work on this, it's much appreciated! Unfortunately, I had not the time to look at it but I hope to find an hour in the next days before the OCD. Just to inform you that there's interest... Regards, Michael Am 16.09.15 um 09:14 schrieb Sharan-F: Hi Everyone I’m still looking for some feedback on the revised website structure proposal. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+Website+Structure+Based+on+Combined+Feedback I was hoping to get some feedback in time to see if we could start doing some work on the Website update for the Community Day on Saturday. Thanks Sharan smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Hi Sharan, I looked at the structure and have the following suggestions / comments: - on a second review, we have too many sub-menus. This can be overwhelming to people navigating the website. Instead, you might take the content of the sub-menus and sprinkle it around the pages - I suggest removing partners and making it part of the community menu. It does not add a lot of value to make it a top level menu item. - I would suggest reordering the menus to be -> getting started, news, solutions, documentation, community, customers - perhaps we can drop all menu items under solutions, and make that part of the text and layout of the page These are my thoughts for now. HTH Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: "Sharan-F" <sharan.f...@gmail.com> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 16 September, 2015 3:14:40 AM Subject: Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required Hi Everyone I’m still looking for some feedback on the revised website structure proposal. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+Website+Structure+Based+on+Combined+Feedback I was hoping to get some feedback in time to see if we could start doing some work on the Website update for the Community Day on Saturday. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672069.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Sharan, Your 2nd review with feedbacks (and there were many with such great community) is fine to get something done along the great work you do. I am in line with Taher suggestions of the top layout - hence the site will be dynamic to adapt to future changes and suggestions. Moreover, the content value shall be clearly exposed to allow the target audience to get a RAPID graps of the OOTB solution vs others alternative. Regards, Fernando Le 2015-09-16 05:40, Taher Alkhateeb a écrit : Hi Sharan, I looked at the structure and have the following suggestions / comments: - on a second review, we have too many sub-menus. This can be overwhelming to people navigating the website. Instead, you might take the content of the sub-menus and sprinkle it around the pages - I suggest removing partners and making it part of the community menu. It does not add a lot of value to make it a top level menu item. - I would suggest reordering the menus to be -> getting started, news, solutions, documentation, community, customers - perhaps we can drop all menu items under solutions, and make that part of the text and layout of the page These are my thoughts for now. HTH Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: "Sharan-F" <sharan.f...@gmail.com> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Wednesday, 16 September, 2015 3:14:40 AM Subject: Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required Hi Everyone I’m still looking for some feedback on the revised website structure proposal. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+Website+Structure+Based+on+Combined+Feedback I was hoping to get some feedback in time to see if we could start doing some work on the Website update for the Community Day on Saturday. Thanks Sharan
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Hi Everyone Please see below for a link to a revised proposal for our new website structure. https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/New+Website+Structure+Based+on+Combined+Feedback I've tried to incorporate as much feedback as I can. The Solutions menu uses all the descriptions that we currently use to describe what people can do with OFBiz on our home page. I've added a couple that we don't really publicise too much but could be interesting for specific customers (e.g. managing subscriptions as also reservations and bookings) Once again, please let me have your feedback and comments to see if we now have a website structure proposal that people are generally happy with. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4672042.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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I liked the second option!! Thanks for the great work. Kind Regards Ashish Vijaywargiya HotWax Systems - est. 1997 On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Sharan-F <sharan.f...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone > > Thanks very much for the feedback on my thread about updating our current > website. Based on suggestions from the community I've put together a couple > of diagrams that show a proposed structure for the new OFBiz website. > > Please note that these proposals are only meant as guides so we are still > open to getting feedback on any suggested changes. > > The first option is : > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+-+Option+A > > The second option is: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+Option+B+-+Work+in+Progress > > Next we need to get feedback from the community to understand which is the > most preferred, so please can you respond back to this thread with your > thoughts, suggestions, comments. > > Thanks > Sharan > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926.html > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >
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Hi Everyone Thank you all very much for your feedback and comments. The general opinion appears to be option B with some minor changes. I will draft a ‘modified option B’ trying to incorporate as many of your suggestions as I can. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926p4671997.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
[MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
Hi Everyone Thanks very much for the feedback on my thread about updating our current website. Based on suggestions from the community I've put together a couple of diagrams that show a proposed structure for the new OFBiz website. Please note that these proposals are only meant as guides so we are still open to getting feedback on any suggested changes. The first option is : https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+-+Option+A The second option is: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+Option+B+-+Work+in+Progress Next we need to get feedback from the community to understand which is the most preferred, so please can you respond back to this thread with your thoughts, suggestions, comments. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Hi Sharan, I like option B more than option A. I am not sure about the real need for the "Solutions" subtree, that information may be part of the "Documentation" subtree. Thanks for the great effort, Jacopo On Sep 8, 2015, at 9:56 AM, Sharan-F <sharan.f...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Everyone > > Thanks very much for the feedback on my thread about updating our current > website. Based on suggestions from the community I've put together a couple > of diagrams that show a proposed structure for the new OFBiz website. > > Please note that these proposals are only meant as guides so we are still > open to getting feedback on any suggested changes. > > The first option is : > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+-+Option+A > > The second option is: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+Option+B+-+Work+in+Progress > > Next we need to get feedback from the community to understand which is the > most preferred, so please can you respond back to this thread with your > thoughts, suggestions, comments. > > Thanks > Sharan > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926.html > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Hi Sharan, To me, option B seems easier on the eyes and puts everything logically in its place. Option A on the other hand seems to be structured in a way that is emphasizing things that might not be necessary to all audiences. For example, a listing of solutions is simpler that listing of solutions by role. Not everyone joining will be a CFO or CIO. Also, I see no big distinction between products and solutions to make it into two different menus. The platform menu does not seem to warrant a top level menu and can go in the documentation under the technical documentation. The part I really like from option A is partners and customers. So maybe we can put the news menu under community and make a top level menu called customers and partners. Or maybe we can do the exact opposite. The main menu is important, and should be logical and easy on the eyes. Having something like team and platform as top level menu items is taking space that can be better organized with items like those listed in option B. Cheers, and thank you for the great work. Taher Alkhateeb - Original Message - From: "Sharan-F" <sharan.f...@gmail.com> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Sent: Tuesday, 8 September, 2015 10:56:32 AM Subject: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required Hi Everyone Thanks very much for the feedback on my thread about updating our current website. Based on suggestions from the community I've put together a couple of diagrams that show a proposed structure for the new OFBiz website. Please note that these proposals are only meant as guides so we are still open to getting feedback on any suggested changes. The first option is : https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+-+Option+A The second option is: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+Option+B+-+Work+in+Progress Next we need to get feedback from the community to understand which is the most preferred, so please can you respond back to this thread with your thoughts, suggestions, comments. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Hi Sharan, I think B is a more classic implementation, very clear. But i really like the idea of having an entry point "by role", it might be only x pages with links to other parts of the website, where we gather most interesting things for each role... Putting it into "Getting Started" menu seems a good way to include it into B design (already got dev and Business User there) . Thanks for the work ! Gil On 08/09/2015 09:56, Sharan-F wrote: Hi Everyone Thanks very much for the feedback on my thread about updating our current website. Based on suggestions from the community I've put together a couple of diagrams that show a proposed structure for the new OFBiz website. Please note that these proposals are only meant as guides so we are still open to getting feedback on any suggested changes. The first option is : https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+-+Option+A The second option is: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+Option+B+-+Work+in+Progress Next we need to get feedback from the community to understand which is the most preferred, so please can you respond back to this thread with your thoughts, suggestions, comments. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Hi Sharan, To me also option B seems to be better structured. Maybe under Getting Started > Business Users you might add a page with "Implementers". Like that a true business user could really get started. Regards, Peter --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en busca de virus. http://www.avast.com
Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required
For what it's worth, I prefer Option B. Consumers tend to seek innovation from products themselves while expecting familiarity from the product's web page navigation/design. Is there any way to sneak the term "Entrepreneur" in there somewhere as a sub-menu item? Feature creep, yes, although I find that entrepreneurs tend to become excited about a product when they see something at its web site that makes them think "These people understand me and my dream." On 15-09-08 12:56 AM, Sharan-F wrote: > Hi Everyone > > Thanks very much for the feedback on my thread about updating our current > website. Based on suggestions from the community I've put together a couple > of diagrams that show a proposed structure for the new OFBiz website. > > Please note that these proposals are only meant as guides so we are still > open to getting feedback on any suggested changes. > > The first option is : > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+-+Option+A > > The second option is: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+Option+B+-+Work+in+Progress > > Next we need to get feedback from the community to understand which is the > most preferred, so please can you respond back to this thread with your > thoughts, suggestions, comments. > > Thanks > Sharan > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926.html > Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >
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Sharan, Nice job, never easy putting this stuff together. I like pieces from both – this can’t be an “A” or “B” choice. My 2 cents: Getting Started (B). I like this – I think that most new visitors will click into the section. I would have Business Users before Developers – Solutions (combine from A and B). I like the “By Role” approach. I would look to combine so we would have Solutions -> By Role (with sub options of CEO, CIO etc) and Solutions -> by Business Need (with sub options of ERP, E-Commerce etc.). Documentation (B). A must have, imo. Customers (A). If I’m evaluating OFBiz I would absolutely want to see who else has adopted the platform. Partners (A), same thinking as “Customers”. Community (B). I would combine items from Community / About and News into here. This can also have links to more developer focused content and links. I also think that the Home Page can have a big impact on the layout. For example, Latest News could be on the Home Page (with a link to “All News”) which lessens the priority for having News prominently available on the NavBar. This is the same for the landing pages for the major navbar items. It’s always difficult to put this together and get it right the first time, and right for all viewers. Nice start! Nick From: gil portenseigne [mailto:gil.portensei...@nereide.fr] Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2015 9:22 AM To: user@ofbiz.apache.org Subject: Re: [MARKETING] OFBiz New Website Structure Proposals – Feedback Required Hi Sharan, I think B is a more classic implementation, very clear. But i really like the idea of having an entry point "by role", it might be only x pages with links to other parts of the website, where we gather most interesting things for each role... Putting it into "Getting Started" menu seems a good way to include it into B design (already got dev and Business User there) . Thanks for the work ! Gil On 08/09/2015 09:56, Sharan-F wrote: Hi Everyone Thanks very much for the feedback on my thread about updating our current website. Based on suggestions from the community I've put together a couple of diagrams that show a proposed structure for the new OFBiz website. Please note that these proposals are only meant as guides so we are still open to getting feedback on any suggested changes. The first option is : https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+-+Option+A The second option is: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+Option+B+-+Work+in+Progress Next we need to get feedback from the community to understand which is the most preferred, so please can you respond back to this thread with your thoughts, suggestions, comments. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Hi Sharan, Thanks for you work on this, thanks also to Nick and Taher :) Like Taher (no surprise ;)) and Jacopo I prefer option B. Unlike Taher and as suggested Adrian I wonder if separating solutions by roles could not be interesting, for marketing purpose of course. I also prefer the content of Team menu over About, at least About miss a ref to Contributors. In solution B, Press (In A only) should be in News also. I know this is shrinking but is still important, often more professional articles. I'd rename "Inventory Management" "Inventory and Order Management". Nothing about Accounting? Like Taher I like the Partners Menu I guess we can do even better, but that's quite a good start! Remember though that a number of links must be present on the main page... most of those in left bar... The Copyright in footer as well. My 2cts Jacques Le 08/09/2015 09:56, Sharan-F a écrit : Hi Everyone Thanks very much for the feedback on my thread about updating our current website. Based on suggestions from the community I've put together a couple of diagrams that show a proposed structure for the new OFBiz website. Please note that these proposals are only meant as guides so we are still open to getting feedback on any suggested changes. The first option is : https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+-+Option+A The second option is: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+Option+B+-+Work+in+Progress Next we need to get feedback from the community to understand which is the most preferred, so please can you respond back to this thread with your thoughts, suggestions, comments. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context: http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
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Good idea. There is a lot of overlap between roles. This makes it easier to write content and harder to manage the navigation. Ron On 08/09/2015 9:22 AM, gil portenseigne wrote: Hi Sharan, I think B is a more classic implementation, very clear. But i really like the idea of having an entry point "by role", it might be only x pages with links to other parts of the website, where we gather most interesting things for each role... Putting it into "Getting Started" menu seems a good way to include it into B design (already got dev and Business User there) . Thanks for the work ! Gil On 08/09/2015 09:56, Sharan-F wrote: Hi Everyone Thanks very much for the feedback on my thread about updating our current website. Based on suggestions from the community I've put together a couple of diagrams that show a proposed structure for the new OFBiz website. Please note that these proposals are only meant as guides so we are still open to getting feedback on any suggested changes. The first option is : https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+-+Option+A The second option is: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Draft+Website+Structure+Option+B+-+Work+in+Progress Next we need to get feedback from the community to understand which is the most preferred, so please can you respond back to this thread with your thoughts, suggestions, comments. Thanks Sharan -- View this message in context:http://ofbiz.135035.n4.nabble.com/MARKETING-OFBiz-New-Website-Structure-Proposals-Feedback-Required-tp4671926.html Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- Ron Wheeler President Artifact Software Inc email: rwhee...@artifact-software.com skype: ronaldmwheeler phone: 866-970-2435, ext 102