Re: New Release Branch

2009-03-03 Thread Sam Hamilton
Just to add my thanks to everyone - this should really help stabilize our 
development while keeping more great features not found in release 4


On 02/03/2009 15:51, "Jacques Le Roux"  wrote:

This has been already discussed to and fro and I totally agree

Jacques

From: "David E Jones" 
>
> The Release Plan document does cover this: 
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan
>
> The whole point of doing a release branch is so that we never have to  do a 
> feature freeze in the trunk. The release branch is the
> place  where we never allow new features, and in the trunk they are always  
> allowed.
>
> As for why to wait longer, I'm still thinking the end of March is a  better 
> date since a few things are up in the air:
>
> 1. completing MyPortal: remove MyPage, move MyPortal to framework
>
> 2. framework independence: move all references to non-framework things  
> (especially Party) from framework components into
> applications  components, and in general make the framework free of 
> dependencies on  the applications
>
> There may be more things, but IMO those 2 items are critical to finish  
> before the release branch so that the branch won't start
> out with  significant issues that require refactoring and not bug fixes, and 
> so  will never be done in the release branch. Those
> who want such things  would then have to wait another year or two for the 
> next release  branch, or use the trunk, which would make
> this release branch of less  value.
>
> And no, we're not going to do release branches more often. A release  branch 
> is only valuable if there are enough people using to
> help  maintain it and fix bugs in it. Having lots of release branches  
> undermines that, and that issue is already a big one as the
> release4.0  branch shows with only about 2-3 bugs ever fixed in it that were 
> not  back-ported from the trunk.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:04 AM, Bruno Busco wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I think from this moment we should consider to stop adding new
>> features in the trunk until we create the release branch.
>> What do you think?
>> It is hopeful that the 9.3 will be created soon. Lots of users are
>> waiting to sit on it (including me ;-).
>>
>> IMO there is no reason to wait longer. If, from this moment on, we
>> will take care of committing bug fixes to the trunk in separate
>> commits from improvement it will quite easy to merge them to the
>> release branch.
>>
>> From the JIRA release 9.3 roadmap:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ/fixforversion/12313602
>> I see three issues needs to be closed before releasing.
>>
>> Any update?
>>
>> -Bruno
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/23 Jacques Le Roux :
>>> Personally I'd like to see all security issues solved before a new  release.
>>> There also are some other things I have not in head just right now  (Colors
>>> and localisation for the calendar is one of them)
>>> Anyway if we are sure we will be able to fix all security issues  before
>>> freezing this release (hey, I did not say 9.3 ;o) I think it
>>> should be ok.
>>> By this last sentence I mean we may create a branch in march 2009.  But this
>>> will not imply that the release will be numbered 9.3.
>>> Remember Ubuntu 6.06 should have been 6.04 ...
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Bruno Busco" 

 Why postpone it?
 Will we not be able to close this in february/march?


 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

 -Bruno

 2009/2/23 Jacques Le Roux :
>
> In Ubuntu world they use LTS concept (Long Time Support) which  means 5
> (yes
> five!) years of guaranteed support on these specific versions  (there are
> already 2 of them : 6.06 and 8.04).
> Of course OFBiz is not an OS and I think we will never support a  release
> 5
> years (how could we do with the lack of manpower we still have  despite of
> all wonderful efforts we have seen taking place since the  beginning of
> this
> project).
> So I guess we will simply have releases (or versions, like 9.3,  but I
> guess
> we will postpone its release, hence the number will change) and  the trunk
> as
> it's already done.
> In one word a version will be
> either
>  trunk.releaseNumber
> either
>  versionNumber.releaseNumber (like 9.3.99)
>
> Note that the footer shows already this information if you run  the ant
> svninfo target after your build
>
> If we are all ok with this description (David?) I could add this to
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan
> And I think we should at least update title in
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+4.X+and+5.0
>
> HTH
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "BJ Freeman" 
>>
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> interesting. so how do you denote a m

Re: New Release Branch

2009-03-01 Thread Jacques Le Roux

This has been already discussed to and fro and I totally agree

Jacques

From: "David E Jones" 


The Release Plan document does cover this: 
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan

The whole point of doing a release branch is so that we never have to  do a feature freeze in the trunk. The release branch is the 
place  where we never allow new features, and in the trunk they are always  allowed.


As for why to wait longer, I'm still thinking the end of March is a  better 
date since a few things are up in the air:

1. completing MyPortal: remove MyPage, move MyPortal to framework

2. framework independence: move all references to non-framework things  (especially Party) from framework components into 
applications  components, and in general make the framework free of dependencies on  the applications


There may be more things, but IMO those 2 items are critical to finish  before the release branch so that the branch won't start 
out with  significant issues that require refactoring and not bug fixes, and so  will never be done in the release branch. Those 
who want such things  would then have to wait another year or two for the next release  branch, or use the trunk, which would make 
this release branch of less  value.


And no, we're not going to do release branches more often. A release  branch is only valuable if there are enough people using to 
help  maintain it and fix bugs in it. Having lots of release branches  undermines that, and that issue is already a big one as the 
release4.0  branch shows with only about 2-3 bugs ever fixed in it that were not  back-ported from the trunk.


-David


On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:04 AM, Bruno Busco wrote:


Hi,
I think from this moment we should consider to stop adding new
features in the trunk until we create the release branch.
What do you think?
It is hopeful that the 9.3 will be created soon. Lots of users are
waiting to sit on it (including me ;-).

IMO there is no reason to wait longer. If, from this moment on, we
will take care of committing bug fixes to the trunk in separate
commits from improvement it will quite easy to merge them to the
release branch.

From the JIRA release 9.3 roadmap:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ/fixforversion/12313602
I see three issues needs to be closed before releasing.

Any update?

-Bruno


2009/2/23 Jacques Le Roux :

Personally I'd like to see all security issues solved before a new  release.
There also are some other things I have not in head just right now  (Colors
and localisation for the calendar is one of them)
Anyway if we are sure we will be able to fix all security issues  before
freezing this release (hey, I did not say 9.3 ;o) I think it
should be ok.
By this last sentence I mean we may create a branch in march 2009.  But this
will not imply that the release will be numbered 9.3.
Remember Ubuntu 6.06 should have been 6.04 ...

Jacques

From: "Bruno Busco" 


Why postpone it?
Will we not be able to close this in february/march?


https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

-Bruno

2009/2/23 Jacques Le Roux :


In Ubuntu world they use LTS concept (Long Time Support) which  means 5
(yes
five!) years of guaranteed support on these specific versions  (there are
already 2 of them : 6.06 and 8.04).
Of course OFBiz is not an OS and I think we will never support a  release
5
years (how could we do with the lack of manpower we still have  despite of
all wonderful efforts we have seen taking place since the  beginning of
this
project).
So I guess we will simply have releases (or versions, like 9.3,  but I
guess
we will postpone its release, hence the number will change) and  the trunk
as
it's already done.
In one word a version will be
either
 trunk.releaseNumber
either
 versionNumber.releaseNumber (like 9.3.99)

Note that the footer shows already this information if you run  the ant
svninfo target after your build

If we are all ok with this description (David?) I could add this to
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan
And I think we should at least update title in
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+4.X+and+5.0

HTH

Jacques

From: "BJ Freeman" 


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interesting. so how do you denote a minor release or update?

Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 3:35 AM:


Sorry,
I did not understand your real question.

We have decided to use a release numbering scheme similar to  UBUNTU.
9.3 means March 2009

-Bruno

2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
so why did ofbiz jump from 4.0 to 9.3?

Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 2:59 AM:


Well,
the unresolved issues scheduled for 9.3 are:


https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

OFBIZ-2133 has a patch ready and is actually waiting for a  review.

-Bruno


2009/2/22 BJ 

Re: New Release Branch

2009-03-01 Thread David E Jones


The Release Plan document does cover this: 
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan

The whole point of doing a release branch is so that we never have to  
do a feature freeze in the trunk. The release branch is the place  
where we never allow new features, and in the trunk they are always  
allowed.


As for why to wait longer, I'm still thinking the end of March is a  
better date since a few things are up in the air:


1. completing MyPortal: remove MyPage, move MyPortal to framework

2. framework independence: move all references to non-framework things  
(especially Party) from framework components into applications  
components, and in general make the framework free of dependencies on  
the applications


There may be more things, but IMO those 2 items are critical to finish  
before the release branch so that the branch won't start out with  
significant issues that require refactoring and not bug fixes, and so  
will never be done in the release branch. Those who want such things  
would then have to wait another year or two for the next release  
branch, or use the trunk, which would make this release branch of less  
value.


And no, we're not going to do release branches more often. A release  
branch is only valuable if there are enough people using to help  
maintain it and fix bugs in it. Having lots of release branches  
undermines that, and that issue is already a big one as the release4.0  
branch shows with only about 2-3 bugs ever fixed in it that were not  
back-ported from the trunk.


-David


On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:04 AM, Bruno Busco wrote:


Hi,
I think from this moment we should consider to stop adding new
features in the trunk until we create the release branch.
What do you think?
It is hopeful that the 9.3 will be created soon. Lots of users are
waiting to sit on it (including me ;-).

IMO there is no reason to wait longer. If, from this moment on, we
will take care of committing bug fixes to the trunk in separate
commits from improvement it will quite easy to merge them to the
release branch.

From the JIRA release 9.3 roadmap:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ/fixforversion/12313602
I see three issues needs to be closed before releasing.

Any update?

-Bruno


2009/2/23 Jacques Le Roux :
Personally I'd like to see all security issues solved before a new  
release.
There also are some other things I have not in head just right now  
(Colors

and localisation for the calendar is one of them)
Anyway if we are sure we will be able to fix all security issues  
before

freezing this release (hey, I did not say 9.3 ;o) I think it
should be ok.
By this last sentence I mean we may create a branch in march 2009.  
But this

will not imply that the release will be numbered 9.3.
Remember Ubuntu 6.06 should have been 6.04 ...

Jacques

From: "Bruno Busco" 


Why postpone it?
Will we not be able to close this in february/march?


https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

-Bruno

2009/2/23 Jacques Le Roux :


In Ubuntu world they use LTS concept (Long Time Support) which  
means 5

(yes
five!) years of guaranteed support on these specific versions  
(there are

already 2 of them : 6.06 and 8.04).
Of course OFBiz is not an OS and I think we will never support a  
release

5
years (how could we do with the lack of manpower we still have  
despite of
all wonderful efforts we have seen taking place since the  
beginning of

this
project).
So I guess we will simply have releases (or versions, like 9.3,  
but I

guess
we will postpone its release, hence the number will change) and  
the trunk

as
it's already done.
In one word a version will be
either
 trunk.releaseNumber
either
 versionNumber.releaseNumber (like 9.3.99)

Note that the footer shows already this information if you run  
the ant

svninfo target after your build

If we are all ok with this description (David?) I could add this to
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan
And I think we should at least update title in
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+4.X+and+5.0

HTH

Jacques

From: "BJ Freeman" 


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interesting. so how do you denote a minor release or update?

Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 3:35 AM:


Sorry,
I did not understand your real question.

We have decided to use a release numbering scheme similar to  
UBUNTU.

9.3 means March 2009

-Bruno

2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
so why did ofbiz jump from 4.0 to 9.3?

Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 2:59 AM:


Well,
the unresolved issues scheduled for 9.3 are:


https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

OFBIZ-2133 has a patch ready and is actually waiting for a  
review.


-Bruno


2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :


https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNaviga

Re: New Release Branch

2009-03-01 Thread BJ Freeman
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http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan
Make the release branch. then do the work listed.
the patches can be applied to both the trunk and the release branch.
A period where the branch is run through it paces.
either manually or though the Junits.


Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/28/2009 11:04 PM:
> Hi,
> I think from this moment we should consider to stop adding new
> features in the trunk until we create the release branch.
> What do you think?
> It is hopeful that the 9.3 will be created soon. Lots of users are
> waiting to sit on it (including me ;-).
> 
> IMO there is no reason to wait longer. If, from this moment on, we
> will take care of committing bug fixes to the trunk in separate
> commits from improvement it will quite easy to merge them to the
> release branch.
> 
>>From the JIRA release 9.3 roadmap:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ/fixforversion/12313602
> I see three issues needs to be closed before releasing.
> 
> Any update?
> 
> -Bruno
> 
> 
> 2009/2/23 Jacques Le Roux :
>> Personally I'd like to see all security issues solved before a new release.
>> There also are some other things I have not in head just right now (Colors
>> and localisation for the calendar is one of them)
>> Anyway if we are sure we will be able to fix all security issues before
>> freezing this release (hey, I did not say 9.3 ;o) I think it
>> should be ok.
>> By this last sentence I mean we may create a branch in march 2009. But this
>> will not imply that the release will be numbered 9.3.
>> Remember Ubuntu 6.06 should have been 6.04 ...
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Bruno Busco" 
>>> Why postpone it?
>>> Will we not be able to close this in february/march?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC
>>>
>>> -Bruno
>>>
>>> 2009/2/23 Jacques Le Roux :
 In Ubuntu world they use LTS concept (Long Time Support) which means 5
 (yes
 five!) years of guaranteed support on these specific versions (there are
 already 2 of them : 6.06 and 8.04).
 Of course OFBiz is not an OS and I think we will never support a release
 5
 years (how could we do with the lack of manpower we still have despite of
 all wonderful efforts we have seen taking place since the beginning of
 this
 project).
 So I guess we will simply have releases (or versions, like 9.3, but I
 guess
 we will postpone its release, hence the number will change) and the trunk
 as
 it's already done.
 In one word a version will be
 either
  trunk.releaseNumber
 either
  versionNumber.releaseNumber (like 9.3.99)

 Note that the footer shows already this information if you run the ant
 svninfo target after your build

 If we are all ok with this description (David?) I could add this to
 http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan
 And I think we should at least update title in
 http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+4.X+and+5.0

 HTH

 Jacques

 From: "BJ Freeman" 
> interesting. so how do you denote a minor release or update?
> 
> Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 3:35 AM:
>>> Sorry,
>>> I did not understand your real question.
>>>
>>> We have decided to use a release numbering scheme similar to UBUNTU.
>>> 9.3 means March 2009
>>>
>>> -Bruno
>>>
>>> 2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
>>> so why did ofbiz jump from 4.0 to 9.3?
>>>
>>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 2:59 AM:
>> Well,
>> the unresolved issues scheduled for 9.3 are:
>>
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC
>>
>> OFBIZ-2133 has a patch ready and is actually waiting for a review.
>>
>> -Bruno
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
>>
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602
>> it say release Branch 9.3
>> so no 5,6,7, or 8
>


>>
>>

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Re: New Release Branch

2009-02-28 Thread Bruno Busco
Hi,
I think from this moment we should consider to stop adding new
features in the trunk until we create the release branch.
What do you think?
It is hopeful that the 9.3 will be created soon. Lots of users are
waiting to sit on it (including me ;-).

IMO there is no reason to wait longer. If, from this moment on, we
will take care of committing bug fixes to the trunk in separate
commits from improvement it will quite easy to merge them to the
release branch.

>From the JIRA release 9.3 roadmap:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ/fixforversion/12313602
I see three issues needs to be closed before releasing.

Any update?

-Bruno


2009/2/23 Jacques Le Roux :
> Personally I'd like to see all security issues solved before a new release.
> There also are some other things I have not in head just right now (Colors
> and localisation for the calendar is one of them)
> Anyway if we are sure we will be able to fix all security issues before
> freezing this release (hey, I did not say 9.3 ;o) I think it
> should be ok.
> By this last sentence I mean we may create a branch in march 2009. But this
> will not imply that the release will be numbered 9.3.
> Remember Ubuntu 6.06 should have been 6.04 ...
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Bruno Busco" 
>>
>> Why postpone it?
>> Will we not be able to close this in february/march?
>>
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC
>>
>> -Bruno
>>
>> 2009/2/23 Jacques Le Roux :
>>>
>>> In Ubuntu world they use LTS concept (Long Time Support) which means 5
>>> (yes
>>> five!) years of guaranteed support on these specific versions (there are
>>> already 2 of them : 6.06 and 8.04).
>>> Of course OFBiz is not an OS and I think we will never support a release
>>> 5
>>> years (how could we do with the lack of manpower we still have despite of
>>> all wonderful efforts we have seen taking place since the beginning of
>>> this
>>> project).
>>> So I guess we will simply have releases (or versions, like 9.3, but I
>>> guess
>>> we will postpone its release, hence the number will change) and the trunk
>>> as
>>> it's already done.
>>> In one word a version will be
>>> either
>>>  trunk.releaseNumber
>>> either
>>>  versionNumber.releaseNumber (like 9.3.99)
>>>
>>> Note that the footer shows already this information if you run the ant
>>> svninfo target after your build
>>>
>>> If we are all ok with this description (David?) I could add this to
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan
>>> And I think we should at least update title in
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+4.X+and+5.0
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "BJ Freeman" 

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 interesting. so how do you denote a minor release or update?

 Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 3:35 AM:
>
> Sorry,
> I did not understand your real question.
>
> We have decided to use a release numbering scheme similar to UBUNTU.
> 9.3 means March 2009
>
> -Bruno
>
> 2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
> so why did ofbiz jump from 4.0 to 9.3?
>
> Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 2:59 AM:

 Well,
 the unresolved issues scheduled for 9.3 are:


 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

 OFBIZ-2133 has a patch ready and is actually waiting for a review.

 -Bruno


 2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :


 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602
 it say release Branch 9.3
 so no 5,6,7, or 8
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>>>
>>>
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>
>
>


Re: New Release Branch

2009-02-23 Thread Jacques Le Roux

Personally I'd like to see all security issues solved before a new release.
There also are some other things I have not in head just right now (Colors and 
localisation for the calendar is one of them)
Anyway if we are sure we will be able to fix all security issues before 
freezing this release (hey, I did not say 9.3 ;o) I think it
should be ok.
By this last sentence I mean we may create a branch in march 2009. But this 
will not imply that the release will be numbered 9.3.
Remember Ubuntu 6.06 should have been 6.04 ...

Jacques

From: "Bruno Busco" 

Why postpone it?
Will we not be able to close this in february/march?

https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

-Bruno

2009/2/23 Jacques Le Roux :

In Ubuntu world they use LTS concept (Long Time Support) which means 5 (yes
five!) years of guaranteed support on these specific versions (there are
already 2 of them : 6.06 and 8.04).
Of course OFBiz is not an OS and I think we will never support a release 5
years (how could we do with the lack of manpower we still have despite of
all wonderful efforts we have seen taking place since the beginning of this
project).
So I guess we will simply have releases (or versions, like 9.3, but I guess
we will postpone its release, hence the number will change) and the trunk as
it's already done.
In one word a version will be
either
  trunk.releaseNumber
either
  versionNumber.releaseNumber (like 9.3.99)

Note that the footer shows already this information if you run the ant
svninfo target after your build

If we are all ok with this description (David?) I could add this to
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan
And I think we should at least update title in
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+4.X+and+5.0

HTH

Jacques

From: "BJ Freeman" 


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Hash: SHA1

interesting. so how do you denote a minor release or update?

Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 3:35 AM:


Sorry,
I did not understand your real question.

We have decided to use a release numbering scheme similar to UBUNTU.
9.3 means March 2009

-Bruno

2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
so why did ofbiz jump from 4.0 to 9.3?

Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 2:59 AM:


Well,
the unresolved issues scheduled for 9.3 are:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

OFBIZ-2133 has a patch ready and is actually waiting for a review.

-Bruno


2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :

https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602
it say release Branch 9.3
so no 5,6,7, or 8




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Re: New Release Branch

2009-02-23 Thread Bruno Busco
Why postpone it?
Will we not be able to close this in february/march?

https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

-Bruno

2009/2/23 Jacques Le Roux :
> In Ubuntu world they use LTS concept (Long Time Support) which means 5 (yes
> five!) years of guaranteed support on these specific versions (there are
> already 2 of them : 6.06 and 8.04).
> Of course OFBiz is not an OS and I think we will never support a release 5
> years (how could we do with the lack of manpower we still have despite of
> all wonderful efforts we have seen taking place since the beginning of this
> project).
> So I guess we will simply have releases (or versions, like 9.3, but I guess
> we will postpone its release, hence the number will change) and the trunk as
> it's already done.
> In one word a version will be
> either
>   trunk.releaseNumber
> either
>   versionNumber.releaseNumber (like 9.3.99)
>
> Note that the footer shows already this information if you run the ant
> svninfo target after your build
>
> If we are all ok with this description (David?) I could add this to
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan
> And I think we should at least update title in
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+4.X+and+5.0
>
> HTH
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "BJ Freeman" 
>>
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>>
>> interesting. so how do you denote a minor release or update?
>>
>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 3:35 AM:
>>>
>>> Sorry,
>>> I did not understand your real question.
>>>
>>> We have decided to use a release numbering scheme similar to UBUNTU.
>>> 9.3 means March 2009
>>>
>>> -Bruno
>>>
>>> 2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
>>> so why did ofbiz jump from 4.0 to 9.3?
>>>
>>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 2:59 AM:
>>
>> Well,
>> the unresolved issues scheduled for 9.3 are:
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC
>>
>> OFBIZ-2133 has a patch ready and is actually waiting for a review.
>>
>> -Bruno
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
>>
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602
>> it say release Branch 9.3
>> so no 5,6,7, or 8

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Re: New Release Branch

2009-02-23 Thread David E Jones


This is just a way of versioning the release branch, nothing more.  
Along with the release branch URL you'll also need the SVN revision  
number to pin down the exact set of files you have.


-David


On Feb 23, 2009, at 12:48 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:

In Ubuntu world they use LTS concept (Long Time Support) which means  
5 (yes five!) years of guaranteed support on these specific versions  
(there are already 2 of them : 6.06 and 8.04).
Of course OFBiz is not an OS and I think we will never support a  
release 5 years (how could we do with the lack of manpower we still  
have despite of all wonderful efforts we have seen taking place  
since the beginning of this project).
So I guess we will simply have releases (or versions, like 9.3, but  
I guess we will postpone its release, hence the number will change)  
and the trunk as it's already done.

In one word a version will be
either
  trunk.releaseNumber
either
  versionNumber.releaseNumber (like 9.3.99)

Note that the footer shows already this information if you run the  
ant svninfo target after your build


If we are all ok with this description (David?) I could add this to 
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan
And I think we should at least update title in 
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+4.X+and+5.0

HTH

Jacques

From: "BJ Freeman" 

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interesting. so how do you denote a minor release or update?

Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 3:35 AM:

Sorry,
I did not understand your real question.

We have decided to use a release numbering scheme similar to UBUNTU.
9.3 means March 2009

-Bruno

2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
so why did ofbiz jump from 4.0 to 9.3?

Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 2:59 AM:

Well,
the unresolved issues scheduled for 9.3 are:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

OFBIZ-2133 has a patch ready and is actually waiting for a  
review.


-Bruno


2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602
it say release Branch 9.3
so no 5,6,7, or 8




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Re: New Release Branch

2009-02-22 Thread Jacques Le Roux
In Ubuntu world they use LTS concept (Long Time Support) which means 5 (yes five!) years of guaranteed support on these specific 
versions (there are already 2 of them : 6.06 and 8.04).
Of course OFBiz is not an OS and I think we will never support a release 5 years (how could we do with the lack of manpower we still 
have despite of all wonderful efforts we have seen taking place since the beginning of this project).
So I guess we will simply have releases (or versions, like 9.3, but I guess we will postpone its release, hence the number will 
change) and the trunk as it's already done.

In one word a version will be
either
   trunk.releaseNumber
either
   versionNumber.releaseNumber (like 9.3.99)

Note that the footer shows already this information if you run the ant svninfo 
target after your build

If we are all ok with this description (David?) I could add this to 
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan
And I think we should at least update title in 
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+4.X+and+5.0

HTH

Jacques

From: "BJ Freeman" 

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interesting. so how do you denote a minor release or update?

Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 3:35 AM:

Sorry,
I did not understand your real question.

We have decided to use a release numbering scheme similar to UBUNTU.
9.3 means March 2009

-Bruno

2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
so why did ofbiz jump from 4.0 to 9.3?

Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 2:59 AM:

Well,
the unresolved issues scheduled for 9.3 are:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

OFBIZ-2133 has a patch ready and is actually waiting for a review.

-Bruno


2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602
it say release Branch 9.3
so no 5,6,7, or 8




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Re: New Release Branch

2009-02-22 Thread Bruno Busco
I think we will use the SVN revision for that.


2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> interesting. so how do you denote a minor release or update?
>
> Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 3:35 AM:
>> Sorry,
>> I did not understand your real question.
>>
>> We have decided to use a release numbering scheme similar to UBUNTU.
>> 9.3 means March 2009
>>
>> -Bruno
>>
>> 2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
>> so why did ofbiz jump from 4.0 to 9.3?
>>
>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 2:59 AM:
> Well,
> the unresolved issues scheduled for 9.3 are:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC
>
> OFBIZ-2133 has a patch ready and is actually waiting for a review.
>
> -Bruno
>
>
> 2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602
> it say release Branch 9.3
> so no 5,6,7, or 8
>>>
>
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Re: New Release Branch

2009-02-22 Thread BJ Freeman
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interesting. so how do you denote a minor release or update?

Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 3:35 AM:
> Sorry,
> I did not understand your real question.
> 
> We have decided to use a release numbering scheme similar to UBUNTU.
> 9.3 means March 2009
> 
> -Bruno
> 
> 2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
> so why did ofbiz jump from 4.0 to 9.3?
> 
> Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 2:59 AM:
 Well,
 the unresolved issues scheduled for 9.3 are:
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

 OFBIZ-2133 has a patch ready and is actually waiting for a review.

 -Bruno


 2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
 https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602
 it say release Branch 9.3
 so no 5,6,7, or 8
>>

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Re: New Release Branch

2009-02-22 Thread Bruno Busco
Sorry,
I did not understand your real question.

We have decided to use a release numbering scheme similar to UBUNTU.
9.3 means March 2009

-Bruno

2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> so why did ofbiz jump from 4.0 to 9.3?
>
> Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 2:59 AM:
>> Well,
>> the unresolved issues scheduled for 9.3 are:
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC
>>
>> OFBIZ-2133 has a patch ready and is actually waiting for a review.
>>
>> -Bruno
>>
>>
>> 2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602
>> it say release Branch 9.3
>> so no 5,6,7, or 8
>>>
>
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Re: New Release Branch

2009-02-22 Thread BJ Freeman
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so why did ofbiz jump from 4.0 to 9.3?

Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 2:59 AM:
> Well,
> the unresolved issues scheduled for 9.3 are:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC
> 
> OFBIZ-2133 has a patch ready and is actually waiting for a review.
> 
> -Bruno
> 
> 
> 2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602
> it say release Branch 9.3
> so no 5,6,7, or 8
>>

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Re: New Release Branch

2009-02-22 Thread Bruno Busco
Well,
the unresolved issues scheduled for 9.3 are:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC

OFBIZ-2133 has a patch ready and is actually waiting for a review.

-Bruno


2009/2/22 BJ Freeman :
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> Hash: SHA1
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602
> it say release Branch 9.3
> so no 5,6,7, or 8
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New Release Branch

2009-02-21 Thread BJ Freeman
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https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602
it say release Branch 9.3
so no 5,6,7, or 8
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