Re: OFBiz Performance, a good story
Thanks very much for the information, Mr. Le Roux. I'm not sure what I might be able to do to help the project, so I'll look into the contributor thing. Considering how little time I've had to spend on my company's OFBiz rollout, I'm still counted among the newest of the newbies. I am starting to learn a few things, though, from following these mailing list threads. >From the long "OFBiz.org site: easier navigation to Service Providers and End Users" thread that's been bouncing around here (it has evolved into more of an admin discussion than a user discussion), I gather that I could create my own OFBiz-related content (e.g. documentation) to be hosted elsewhere, so long as I adhere to OFBiz/ASF guidelines. Heck, even books are possible, if I manage to grab enough of a clue. All in all, I need to learn more before I can start creating anything. That's ok, though, I'm accustomed to the tech writer process. I don't want to take up people's time on this user-specific mailing list for the sake of a corollary technical project, so I'll try to keep it to a bunch of "Hey, how does this work in OFBiz" questions until I have some kind of alpha-release announcement for other users. Thanks again. On 14-02-23 04:39 AM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > I'm not quite sure what you are looking for > > Before living the project David created a space for requirements > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Home But it's not > open like the wiki. > > In the wiki you have this blank page > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Requirements+gathering > with children pages > > You can edit and create you own pages in the wiki as soon as you are > registered as a contributor (see explanation at top of each wiki page) > > HTH > > Jacques > > Le 13/02/2014 20:22, Todd Thorner a écrit : >> Hi Ted, >> >> I'm still in full-doofus mode regarding OFBiz and its capabilities for >> integrating with third-party services/apps from various >> frameworks/languages. I'm not even strong enough on the uptake to know >> whether something like the ASF's Camel project might be stepping in the >> right direction. >> >> I haven't thought much about UML diagramming tools since I used the old >> Rational Rose product while doing some Struts 1.x web app programming >> (over 10 years ago). I'm afraid that when it comes to >> design/development/implementation this tech writer is always playing >> catch-up with the professionals. Documentation is my strength. >> >> That said, diagramming some use cases in UML would be an important >> consideration for coming up with answers to various questions that >> C-levels might have while conducting OFBiz cost-benefit analyses. I >> know that Ruth Hoffman wrote a great introductory book about high-level >> OFBiz ecommerce functionality, a solid jumping-off point for business >> managers who are as IT-non-savvy as I am. >> >> I am among the demographic of end users for such hand-holding >> documentation. How can another OFBIz-related project help potential end >> users take that next step from Hoffman's introductory book toward >> practical milestones? >> >> Perhaps gathering requirements would be a reasonable place to start. I >> will evaluate options for hosting such a collaborative documentation >> project (question for OFBiz site admins: is there a sandbox area in the >> wiki that is available?) >> >> I sense a tiny bit of traction. Here's hoping it gets beyond just a few >> people talking around one another. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 14-02-13 10:12 AM, Ted Byers wrote: >>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Todd Thorner >>> wrote: >>> Thank you, Mr. Byers, for posting such a remark-worthy suggestion, and thank you, Mr. Rosser, for providing the inertia that might help start an exciting new OFBiz-related project (congrats as well on securing a happy jeweler client). I would be an enthusiastic participant in any documentation project whose outcome helped business managers become dedicated OFBiz end users. Indeed, I am one such hopeful business manager, excited by the prospect of having OFBiz at the core of my transactional processes, daunted by the IT learning curve. I am by trade a tech writer with over 15 years of experience, mostly doing API docs for SDK products. I also have a Fine Arts degree in Creative Writing, and those two properties combined make me one of the most sought-after writers in the Vancouver IT industry. I am, though, as I said, now working on becoming a successful business owner. From my perspective, this might be a proverbial golden opportunity. I would learn a lot and move up that learning curve, plus I have much to offer those who seek to improve OFBiz documentation and attract more CFOs & CMOs to the product. I ask the community how a prospective team might start a workflow (Agile or whatever) for such a projec
Re: OFBiz Performance, a good story
I'm not quite sure what you are looking for Before living the project David created a space for requirements https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBREQDES/Home But it's not open like the wiki. In the wiki you have this blank page https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Requirements+gathering with children pages You can edit and create you own pages in the wiki as soon as you are registered as a contributor (see explanation at top of each wiki page) HTH Jacques Le 13/02/2014 20:22, Todd Thorner a écrit : Hi Ted, I'm still in full-doofus mode regarding OFBiz and its capabilities for integrating with third-party services/apps from various frameworks/languages. I'm not even strong enough on the uptake to know whether something like the ASF's Camel project might be stepping in the right direction. I haven't thought much about UML diagramming tools since I used the old Rational Rose product while doing some Struts 1.x web app programming (over 10 years ago). I'm afraid that when it comes to design/development/implementation this tech writer is always playing catch-up with the professionals. Documentation is my strength. That said, diagramming some use cases in UML would be an important consideration for coming up with answers to various questions that C-levels might have while conducting OFBiz cost-benefit analyses. I know that Ruth Hoffman wrote a great introductory book about high-level OFBiz ecommerce functionality, a solid jumping-off point for business managers who are as IT-non-savvy as I am. I am among the demographic of end users for such hand-holding documentation. How can another OFBIz-related project help potential end users take that next step from Hoffman's introductory book toward practical milestones? Perhaps gathering requirements would be a reasonable place to start. I will evaluate options for hosting such a collaborative documentation project (question for OFBiz site admins: is there a sandbox area in the wiki that is available?) I sense a tiny bit of traction. Here's hoping it gets beyond just a few people talking around one another. On 14-02-13 10:12 AM, Ted Byers wrote: On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Todd Thorner wrote: Thank you, Mr. Byers, for posting such a remark-worthy suggestion, and thank you, Mr. Rosser, for providing the inertia that might help start an exciting new OFBiz-related project (congrats as well on securing a happy jeweler client). I would be an enthusiastic participant in any documentation project whose outcome helped business managers become dedicated OFBiz end users. Indeed, I am one such hopeful business manager, excited by the prospect of having OFBiz at the core of my transactional processes, daunted by the IT learning curve. I am by trade a tech writer with over 15 years of experience, mostly doing API docs for SDK products. I also have a Fine Arts degree in Creative Writing, and those two properties combined make me one of the most sought-after writers in the Vancouver IT industry. I am, though, as I said, now working on becoming a successful business owner. From my perspective, this might be a proverbial golden opportunity. I would learn a lot and move up that learning curve, plus I have much to offer those who seek to improve OFBiz documentation and attract more CFOs & CMOs to the product. I ask the community how a prospective team might start a workflow (Agile or whatever) for such a project. Would a focal point of managing productivity be JIRA or something like that? Is there an eat-the-dog-food instance of OFBiz out there allowing authorized contributors to use its Scrum functionality? Maybe even its CMS interface? I would love to help make OFBiz compatible with any arbitrary CMIS-compliant product, but that's just me... Thanks for everything that everyone does to make this product world-class. You're welcome Todd, I don't have a specific answer for the questions you raise. I generally go with whatever works with the team with whom I am working at the time. My priority, right now, is to first learn how to set up a multi-tenant installation of OFBiz, as well as a multi-site installation of wordpress; and then how to integrate the two so that OFBiz's ecommerce component can be used to handle payment for subscriptions to the contents on one or more of the sites in the Wordpress installation. I'd also want to be able to support use of, the relevant back office components (e.g. the accounting), for a venture that is focused on publishing. I then want to install Redmine, in order to be able to exploit it's project management features (including issue/bug tracking). I have not yet begun to see to what extent Redmine's capabilities are complementary to OFBiz's capabilities or how much overlap there may be, e.g., WRT the work effort components). While Redmine, itself, integrates into a couple version control products (notably Subversion), it does not seem to have, as far as I can tell, sup
RE: OFBiz Performance, a good story
Mike, 1) Is this a single machine, or multiple load balanced? Normally in prod environments you'd have multiple to provide some level of redundancy. One Server with Application (Ofbiz/BigFish) One Server with DB One Server with Apache 2) What type of machine is this? Is a VM, Amazon AWS, stand alone, number of cores, RAM, etc. Amazon AWS/EC2 instance with 2 CPUs, 7.5GB RAM 3) What were the java memory settings (you mentioned that you had to tweak them). Xms/Xmx = 5120M MaxPermSize = 1024m The teak was to allocate the same amount of memory to Xms and Xmx allocating JVM on application startup. 4) The cache optimizations you mention. Are these already included in the bigfish download/demo? 5) Are any of these documented? I noticed that bigfish has impressive documentation (well done!). Yes, you can also review the Cache settings in the BigFish Help Documentation. http://bigfish.solveda.com/help/guideCachingAndMemory.htm Regards Len -Original Message- From: Mike [mailto:mz4whee...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 4:29 PM To: user Subject: Re: OFBiz Performance, a good story These are pretty impressive numbers. A couple of questions Nick; 1) Is this a single machine, or multiple load balanced? Normally in prod environments you'd have multiple to provide some level of redundancy. 2) What type of machine is this? Is a VM, Amazon AWS, stand alone, number of cores, RAM, etc. 3) What were the java memory settings (you mentioned that you had to tweak them). 4) The cache optimizations you mention. Are these already included in the bigfish download/demo? 5) Are any of these documented? I noticed that bigfish has impressive documentation (well done!). Thanks! On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Nick Rosser wrote: > All, > > I thought I'd share some encouraging news from a recent implementation we > were involved in: > > * we built a site for a Philly based jeweler who has some unique >products geared for Valentine's Day > * they start their sale on 1-Jan, it typically gains real momentum by >the end of Jan, and peaks around the 11th, 12th Feb > * peak #visitors (day): 20,000 > * peak #pageviews (day): 150,000 > * peak #orders (day): ~4000 > * peak #concurrent users: 275 > > And perhaps the most impressive fact around performance was that during > peak the site was flying, no noticeable difference if there was a single > user or 275 concurrent users. > > My conclusion is that the OFBiz caching model works really well when > configured correctly (together with good memory allocation and settings). > We also spent a great deal of time tuning our BigFish solution, > specifically around the usage of the entity model layer (really just making > sure we always use cache calls). We logged all SQL calls, and then analyzed > the code to remove a second execution of any SQL call (since it should be > cached). The Grinder was used to monitor and gauge performance > improvements. All in all very encouraging and gives great confidence of > marketing this solution into the largest organizations. > > I would personally like to thank the key committers who built the caching > functionality -- it's a little tricky to understand, use and configure but > once that is overcome it works impressively. > > We have been involved in some IBM Websphere Commerce implementations and > I'm really beginning to wonder why the software and implementations are > 10-20 times more expensive. With OFBiz we have an enterprise solution, with > affordability for a small business. > > I'd be interested in any stories in the community around performance and > high levels of order taking --- these case studies can really increase > adoption of OFBiz. Stability and scalability are often at the top of > anyone's list when looking at a new platform. Any stories out there? > > Check out the site: www.ihatestevensinger.com. It's built using our > BigFish solution. More at http://bigfish.solveda.com. > > Nick > >
Re: OFBiz Performance, a good story
These are pretty impressive numbers. A couple of questions Nick; 1) Is this a single machine, or multiple load balanced? Normally in prod environments you'd have multiple to provide some level of redundancy. 2) What type of machine is this? Is a VM, Amazon AWS, stand alone, number of cores, RAM, etc. 3) What were the java memory settings (you mentioned that you had to tweak them). 4) The cache optimizations you mention. Are these already included in the bigfish download/demo? 5) Are any of these documented? I noticed that bigfish has impressive documentation (well done!). Thanks! On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:06 AM, Nick Rosser wrote: > All, > > I thought I'd share some encouraging news from a recent implementation we > were involved in: > > * we built a site for a Philly based jeweler who has some unique >products geared for Valentine's Day > * they start their sale on 1-Jan, it typically gains real momentum by >the end of Jan, and peaks around the 11th, 12th Feb > * peak #visitors (day): 20,000 > * peak #pageviews (day): 150,000 > * peak #orders (day): ~4000 > * peak #concurrent users: 275 > > And perhaps the most impressive fact around performance was that during > peak the site was flying, no noticeable difference if there was a single > user or 275 concurrent users. > > My conclusion is that the OFBiz caching model works really well when > configured correctly (together with good memory allocation and settings). > We also spent a great deal of time tuning our BigFish solution, > specifically around the usage of the entity model layer (really just making > sure we always use cache calls). We logged all SQL calls, and then analyzed > the code to remove a second execution of any SQL call (since it should be > cached). The Grinder was used to monitor and gauge performance > improvements. All in all very encouraging and gives great confidence of > marketing this solution into the largest organizations. > > I would personally like to thank the key committers who built the caching > functionality -- it's a little tricky to understand, use and configure but > once that is overcome it works impressively. > > We have been involved in some IBM Websphere Commerce implementations and > I'm really beginning to wonder why the software and implementations are > 10-20 times more expensive. With OFBiz we have an enterprise solution, with > affordability for a small business. > > I'd be interested in any stories in the community around performance and > high levels of order taking --- these case studies can really increase > adoption of OFBiz. Stability and scalability are often at the top of > anyone's list when looking at a new platform. Any stories out there? > > Check out the site: www.ihatestevensinger.com. It's built using our > BigFish solution. More at http://bigfish.solveda.com. > > Nick > >
Re: OFBiz Performance, a good story
Hi Ted, I'm still in full-doofus mode regarding OFBiz and its capabilities for integrating with third-party services/apps from various frameworks/languages. I'm not even strong enough on the uptake to know whether something like the ASF's Camel project might be stepping in the right direction. I haven't thought much about UML diagramming tools since I used the old Rational Rose product while doing some Struts 1.x web app programming (over 10 years ago). I'm afraid that when it comes to design/development/implementation this tech writer is always playing catch-up with the professionals. Documentation is my strength. That said, diagramming some use cases in UML would be an important consideration for coming up with answers to various questions that C-levels might have while conducting OFBiz cost-benefit analyses. I know that Ruth Hoffman wrote a great introductory book about high-level OFBiz ecommerce functionality, a solid jumping-off point for business managers who are as IT-non-savvy as I am. I am among the demographic of end users for such hand-holding documentation. How can another OFBIz-related project help potential end users take that next step from Hoffman's introductory book toward practical milestones? Perhaps gathering requirements would be a reasonable place to start. I will evaluate options for hosting such a collaborative documentation project (question for OFBiz site admins: is there a sandbox area in the wiki that is available?) I sense a tiny bit of traction. Here's hoping it gets beyond just a few people talking around one another. On 14-02-13 10:12 AM, Ted Byers wrote: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Todd Thorner wrote: > >> Thank you, Mr. Byers, for posting such a remark-worthy suggestion, and >> thank you, Mr. Rosser, for providing the inertia that might help start >> an exciting new OFBiz-related project (congrats as well on securing a >> happy jeweler client). >> >> I would be an enthusiastic participant in any documentation project >> whose outcome helped business managers become dedicated OFBiz end users. >> Indeed, I am one such hopeful business manager, excited by the prospect >> of having OFBiz at the core of my transactional processes, daunted by >> the IT learning curve. >> >> I am by trade a tech writer with over 15 years of experience, mostly >> doing API docs for SDK products. I also have a Fine Arts degree in >> Creative Writing, and those two properties combined make me one of the >> most sought-after writers in the Vancouver IT industry. I am, though, >> as I said, now working on becoming a successful business owner. >> >> From my perspective, this might be a proverbial golden opportunity. I >> would learn a lot and move up that learning curve, plus I have much to >> offer those who seek to improve OFBiz documentation and attract more >> CFOs & CMOs to the product. >> >> I ask the community how a prospective team might start a workflow (Agile >> or whatever) for such a project. Would a focal point of managing >> productivity be JIRA or something like that? Is there an >> eat-the-dog-food instance of OFBiz out there allowing authorized >> contributors to use its Scrum functionality? Maybe even its CMS >> interface? I would love to help make OFBiz compatible with any >> arbitrary CMIS-compliant product, but that's just me... >> >> Thanks for everything that everyone does to make this product world-class. >> >> > You're welcome Todd, > > I don't have a specific answer for the questions you raise. I generally go > with whatever works with the team with whom I am working at the time. > > My priority, right now, is to first learn how to set up a multi-tenant > installation of OFBiz, as well as a multi-site installation of wordpress; > and then how to integrate the two so that OFBiz's ecommerce component can > be used to handle payment for subscriptions to the contents on one or more > of the sites in the Wordpress installation. I'd also want to be able to > support use of, the relevant back office components (e.g. the accounting), > for a venture that is focused on publishing. > > I then want to install Redmine, in order to be able to exploit it's project > management features (including issue/bug tracking). I have not yet begun > to see to what extent Redmine's capabilities are complementary to OFBiz's > capabilities or how much overlap there may be, e.g., WRT the work effort > components). While Redmine, itself, integrates into a couple version > control products (notably Subversion), it does not seem to have, as far as > I can tell, support for any of the UML diagrams. What I am keeping an eye > out for is an open source product that both relates each UML diagram (such > as a use case scenario) to one or more items on a wish list (easily created > in Redmine), as well as relating each use case diagram to the code that > implements it. Do you, or anyone else, know of an open source product that > supports UML documentation, that could b
Re: OFBiz Performance, a good story
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Todd Thorner wrote: > Thank you, Mr. Byers, for posting such a remark-worthy suggestion, and > thank you, Mr. Rosser, for providing the inertia that might help start > an exciting new OFBiz-related project (congrats as well on securing a > happy jeweler client). > > I would be an enthusiastic participant in any documentation project > whose outcome helped business managers become dedicated OFBiz end users. > Indeed, I am one such hopeful business manager, excited by the prospect > of having OFBiz at the core of my transactional processes, daunted by > the IT learning curve. > > I am by trade a tech writer with over 15 years of experience, mostly > doing API docs for SDK products. I also have a Fine Arts degree in > Creative Writing, and those two properties combined make me one of the > most sought-after writers in the Vancouver IT industry. I am, though, > as I said, now working on becoming a successful business owner. > > From my perspective, this might be a proverbial golden opportunity. I > would learn a lot and move up that learning curve, plus I have much to > offer those who seek to improve OFBiz documentation and attract more > CFOs & CMOs to the product. > > I ask the community how a prospective team might start a workflow (Agile > or whatever) for such a project. Would a focal point of managing > productivity be JIRA or something like that? Is there an > eat-the-dog-food instance of OFBiz out there allowing authorized > contributors to use its Scrum functionality? Maybe even its CMS > interface? I would love to help make OFBiz compatible with any > arbitrary CMIS-compliant product, but that's just me... > > Thanks for everything that everyone does to make this product world-class. > > You're welcome Todd, I don't have a specific answer for the questions you raise. I generally go with whatever works with the team with whom I am working at the time. My priority, right now, is to first learn how to set up a multi-tenant installation of OFBiz, as well as a multi-site installation of wordpress; and then how to integrate the two so that OFBiz's ecommerce component can be used to handle payment for subscriptions to the contents on one or more of the sites in the Wordpress installation. I'd also want to be able to support use of, the relevant back office components (e.g. the accounting), for a venture that is focused on publishing. I then want to install Redmine, in order to be able to exploit it's project management features (including issue/bug tracking). I have not yet begun to see to what extent Redmine's capabilities are complementary to OFBiz's capabilities or how much overlap there may be, e.g., WRT the work effort components). While Redmine, itself, integrates into a couple version control products (notably Subversion), it does not seem to have, as far as I can tell, support for any of the UML diagrams. What I am keeping an eye out for is an open source product that both relates each UML diagram (such as a use case scenario) to one or more items on a wish list (easily created in Redmine), as well as relating each use case diagram to the code that implements it. Do you, or anyone else, know of an open source product that supports UML documentation, that could be integrated with Redmine? One that can construct a suite of UML documents given a codebase (and that can be used to construct a complete set of UML diagrams, or at least use case and E-R diagrams, for OFBiz, WordPress and Redmine), would be particularly useful as that could automatically provide core design documentation, and the use case documents could be used both to provide feature lists and a suite of howto documents. Is there any automated tool to make the documentation task easier? One of the things that makes this especially daunting is that OFBiz is Java while Wordpress is PHP and Redmine is Ruby. And there are a few features that do not seem to exist that I would probably implement in a mix of Perl and C++. Integration of web apps involving such a mix of languages is something I have not yet tried (all the web apps I have developed have been either entirely Perl (with JavaScript on the client side) or a mix of Java Servlets+JSP/JSF, so I am unsure of how to integrate two apps that use very different technologies, and especially how to maintain session info in that effort. Cheers, Ted
Re: OFBiz Performance, a good story
Thank you, Mr. Byers, for posting such a remark-worthy suggestion, and thank you, Mr. Rosser, for providing the inertia that might help start an exciting new OFBiz-related project (congrats as well on securing a happy jeweler client). I would be an enthusiastic participant in any documentation project whose outcome helped business managers become dedicated OFBiz end users. Indeed, I am one such hopeful business manager, excited by the prospect of having OFBiz at the core of my transactional processes, daunted by the IT learning curve. I am by trade a tech writer with over 15 years of experience, mostly doing API docs for SDK products. I also have a Fine Arts degree in Creative Writing, and those two properties combined make me one of the most sought-after writers in the Vancouver IT industry. I am, though, as I said, now working on becoming a successful business owner. >From my perspective, this might be a proverbial golden opportunity. I would learn a lot and move up that learning curve, plus I have much to offer those who seek to improve OFBiz documentation and attract more CFOs & CMOs to the product. I ask the community how a prospective team might start a workflow (Agile or whatever) for such a project. Would a focal point of managing productivity be JIRA or something like that? Is there an eat-the-dog-food instance of OFBiz out there allowing authorized contributors to use its Scrum functionality? Maybe even its CMS interface? I would love to help make OFBiz compatible with any arbitrary CMIS-compliant product, but that's just me... Thanks for everything that everyone does to make this product world-class. On 14-02-13 07:26 AM, Ted Byers wrote: > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Nick Rosser wrote: > >> All, >> >> I thought I'd share some encouraging news from a recent implementation we >> were involved in: >> >> * we built a site for a Philly based jeweler who has some unique >>products geared for Valentine's Day >> * they start their sale on 1-Jan, it typically gains real momentum by >>the end of Jan, and peaks around the 11th, 12th Feb >> * peak #visitors (day): 20,000 >> * peak #pageviews (day): 150,000 >> * peak #orders (day): ~4000 >> * peak #concurrent users: 275 >> >> And perhaps the most impressive fact around performance was that during >> peak the site was flying, no noticeable difference if there was a single >> user or 275 concurrent users. >> > > This looks good. It wouldn't be so good if you had to deploy on the latest > super-computer to get that performance, but it would be astounding if you > could get that off a five year old desktop that would otherwise be a really > ugly paper-weight. ;-) > > I agree with you that it would be good to collect reports like yours > regarding good performance. Might I suggest setting something up either on > the OFBiz site, or on yours, to make such reports easy to find. I would > also suggest that the technical details of the host be provided (whether > that is on Amazon's service, or one of the many other hosting services), > documenting at least the amount of RAM, number of cores/processors, and > hard disk space. And with the processors, some indication of the speed of > the processor (after all, my current workstation, with 8 cores, is more > than an order of magnitude faster than my old HP that had a 4 core AMD - > not all cores were created equal). And how many (virtual) machines were > used: 2, 3, more? And if more than one, how is each used? > > It is great that this is affordable for small business, but a good > businessman is going to want information that lets him assess the cost of > getting it done (both initial setup and continuing monthly costs), along > with the performance, and whether or not the interface is user friendly. > How can a businessman hope to do a cost-benefit analysis without such > information, especially if he or she knows little about IT save that it is > needed and must rely on outside consultants? > > I would suggest that, in addition to providing information suitable for > other developers interested in contributing code, and more for users, it is > necessary for some documentation, along with reports of performance like > yours, written to deal with the concerns of a businessman from the > perspective of businessmen. Only then will OFBiz really thrive, if I may > use that metaphor. > > Cheers > > Ted >
Re: OFBiz Performance, a good story
On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Nick Rosser wrote: > All, > > I thought I'd share some encouraging news from a recent implementation we > were involved in: > > * we built a site for a Philly based jeweler who has some unique >products geared for Valentine's Day > * they start their sale on 1-Jan, it typically gains real momentum by >the end of Jan, and peaks around the 11th, 12th Feb > * peak #visitors (day): 20,000 > * peak #pageviews (day): 150,000 > * peak #orders (day): ~4000 > * peak #concurrent users: 275 > > And perhaps the most impressive fact around performance was that during > peak the site was flying, no noticeable difference if there was a single > user or 275 concurrent users. > This looks good. It wouldn't be so good if you had to deploy on the latest super-computer to get that performance, but it would be astounding if you could get that off a five year old desktop that would otherwise be a really ugly paper-weight. ;-) I agree with you that it would be good to collect reports like yours regarding good performance. Might I suggest setting something up either on the OFBiz site, or on yours, to make such reports easy to find. I would also suggest that the technical details of the host be provided (whether that is on Amazon's service, or one of the many other hosting services), documenting at least the amount of RAM, number of cores/processors, and hard disk space. And with the processors, some indication of the speed of the processor (after all, my current workstation, with 8 cores, is more than an order of magnitude faster than my old HP that had a 4 core AMD - not all cores were created equal). And how many (virtual) machines were used: 2, 3, more? And if more than one, how is each used? It is great that this is affordable for small business, but a good businessman is going to want information that lets him assess the cost of getting it done (both initial setup and continuing monthly costs), along with the performance, and whether or not the interface is user friendly. How can a businessman hope to do a cost-benefit analysis without such information, especially if he or she knows little about IT save that it is needed and must rely on outside consultants? I would suggest that, in addition to providing information suitable for other developers interested in contributing code, and more for users, it is necessary for some documentation, along with reports of performance like yours, written to deal with the concerns of a businessman from the perspective of businessmen. Only then will OFBiz really thrive, if I may use that metaphor. Cheers Ted
Re: OFBiz Performance, a good story
That's great news Nick! Performance will improve more when you switch to R13. There have been a lot of performance improvements since R10. Adrian Crum Sandglass Software www.sandglass-software.com On 2/13/2014 4:06 AM, Nick Rosser wrote: All, I thought I'd share some encouraging news from a recent implementation we were involved in: * we built a site for a Philly based jeweler who has some unique products geared for Valentine's Day * they start their sale on 1-Jan, it typically gains real momentum by the end of Jan, and peaks around the 11th, 12th Feb * peak #visitors (day): 20,000 * peak #pageviews (day): 150,000 * peak #orders (day): ~4000 * peak #concurrent users: 275 And perhaps the most impressive fact around performance was that during peak the site was flying, no noticeable difference if there was a single user or 275 concurrent users. My conclusion is that the OFBiz caching model works really well when configured correctly (together with good memory allocation and settings). We also spent a great deal of time tuning our BigFish solution, specifically around the usage of the entity model layer (really just making sure we always use cache calls). We logged all SQL calls, and then analyzed the code to remove a second execution of any SQL call (since it should be cached). The Grinder was used to monitor and gauge performance improvements. All in all very encouraging and gives great confidence of marketing this solution into the largest organizations. I would personally like to thank the key committers who built the caching functionality -- it's a little tricky to understand, use and configure but once that is overcome it works impressively. We have been involved in some IBM Websphere Commerce implementations and I'm really beginning to wonder why the software and implementations are 10-20 times more expensive. With OFBiz we have an enterprise solution, with affordability for a small business. I'd be interested in any stories in the community around performance and high levels of order taking --- these case studies can really increase adoption of OFBiz. Stability and scalability are often at the top of anyone's list when looking at a new platform. Any stories out there? Check out the site: www.ihatestevensinger.com. It's built using our BigFish solution. More at http://bigfish.solveda.com. Nick
